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Visual Novel translation status


Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "1784/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (77.3%)"
AstralAir - 100% translated, release a long ways off
Ayakashi Gohan - ~93% Complete
Clover Day's - Common + 3 routes done, other routes + 348/711 KB and 74/722 KB translated
Daitoshokan - 89.82% translated, 77.07% edited
HaraKano - Patch with Common, Marina, Ayana, Ren and Kanna routes released.
>Hanasaki Work Spring - prologue + 48% of 1 route translated
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Kozue 23.73% translated
Harumade Kururu - 100% of the initial harem route + 25% common route translated
Hoka no Onna - 84.88% translated
>Hunks Workshop - Released
Irotoridori no Sekai - 9681/50663 (19%) lines translated
Junketsu Megami-Sama - partial patch released
Kurukuru Fanatic - 100% translated, UI + Wordwrapping done
Lovely Cation- 33.4% of lines completed
>Majikoi A-2 - 20.26% translated
>Majo Koi Nikki - 30% (12203/40208) lines translated, prologue patch released
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - Commie project actively in editing
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 2nd project with 2.2 scripts translated
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 3rd project released ch 1-5
Monster girl quest paradox - Being translated, another partial patch released
Muv Luv Total Eclipse - 25% translated
Oreimo Tsuzuku - All scripts translated, 212/268 through TLC+Editing, 154/268 scripts finalized
Sanarara - Project resuming
Sukimazakura to Uso no Machi - 10,448 / 30,513 Lines (34.2%) translated, partial patch released
Tsui Yuri - 63% (3725/5872) lines translated
Tsuki ni Yorisou Otome no Sahou - 10613/31248 (33%) translated
Witch's Garden - 47555/67201 (70.77%) lines translated, 3,426/67,201 (5.10%) edited, prologue patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 100%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 89.73%, Motoka 32.17%, Common and Kazuha fully edited



Official work

MangaGamer
Supipara - Vol 1 Released, Vol 2 upcoming
Kyonyuu Fantasy - 9/9 release
Higurashi Hou - Released chapter 3
Umineko - Released chapters 1-4
Bokuten - 100% translated and edited
Da Capo 3 - 100% translated and edited
Myth - in scripting
Kuroinu - Being released as 3 seperate chapters, CH1 82% TL 21% edited
Himawari - In Beta
Negai no Kakera - 100% translated, 32% edited
Princess Evangile W Happiness - 55% translated, 24.5% edited
Imouto Paradise 2 - 48% translated, 30% edited
Fata morgana fan disc - 25% translated
Maggot Baits - Picked up
SukiSuki - 63% translated
Dal Segno - Picked up
Hadaka Shitsuji - 17% translated
Hadaka Shitsuji fandisc - Picked up
Bocchi Musume x Produce Keikaku - Picked up
Trinoline - Announced



JAST
Sumeragi Ryoko - Beta, in preorder, script edit 50%
Eiyuu*Senki - Picked up
Flowers - Re-write/editing 50%, Beta 15%
Katahane - Picked up
Princess X - 70% translated
Princess X fandisc - Picked up
Trample on Schatten- Translation 96%
Django - Waiting on translation.
Sweet Home - 100% translated, debugging script
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing

>> No.15647447

Sekai/Denpa
Grisaia trilogy - 2nd title Steam released, uncut 35% of new content done, 3rd 50% translated
2236 A.D. - 100% translated
>Maitetsu - 19.27% translated
Nenokami - 99.79% translated, Indiegogo finished
Koi to, Guitar to, Aoi Sora. - 100% translated
Kokonoe Kokoro - 100% translated, engine work
Creature to Koi Shiyo - 100% translated, engine work
WEE 3 - 100% translated
>Chrono Clock - 26.84% translated
Narcissu 3rd - TL+Editing done
Narcissu 0 - in QC
>Tenshin Ranman - 33.78%
Darekoi - 100% translated
Wagamama High Spec -Demo is 100% translated, overall 21.9% translated
Hoshizora no Memoria - 18.38% translated
Memory's Dogma - 100% translated
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
Ley Line - picked up
Baldr Sky - Picked up both 1 and 2
SakuSaku - Picked up
Koikuma - Picked up


Frontwing
Corona Blossom - Vol 1 released, vol 2/3 upcoming
Sharin no Kuni - Kickstarter halted, will be restarted
Island - Picked up
Grisaia no Senritsu - Picked up


Visual Arts
Little Busters - Picked up
Harmonia - Through Steam GL
Rewrite+ - Picked up
Angel Beats - 50% translated


Degica
Muv Luv - Released, uncut patch still to come
Muv Luv Alternative - Winter release
Schwarzesmarken - Through Greenlight
Kiminozo - Picked up


Aksys
Collar x Malice - Picked up
Period Cube - Picked up
Code: Realize fandisc - Picked up
Bad Apple Wars - Picked up


Other
Psycho-Pass: Mandatory Happiness - 9/13 release
Steins;Gate 0 - 2016 release
Root Letter - 2016 release
ChuSingura46+1 - Ch 2+3 released
>Wish Tale of the Sixteenth Night - 75% QC
>Kyuuketsu Hime no Libra - Common + Mari route translated, Calen 25%
Taisho Alice - Picked up
Love Sweets - Picked up
Noratoto - Picked up
SubaHibi - Official release planned
Sora wo Aogite Kumo Takaku - Through Greenlight
>Hakoniwa no Gakuen - Picked up
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed
---
>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

>> No.15647465

>>15647445
Gay porn suffers of sameface a lot. Also same body.

I guess that homosexuals lack in imagination.

>> No.15647577
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This guy saved us all from dovac, the VN Cutter.

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>>15647577
The homo edition.

>> No.15647868
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15647868

It would seem that mangagamer has ditched last years "Back to School Sale" in favor of a generic summer sale. I can't say I blame them, as a "Back to School sale" seemed unusual in the first place, given the nature of their products.

Top 5 Ranking: http://pastebin.com/4P9AKRG0
Popularity Sort: http://pastebin.com/yLvbcTQE
Full Data Point List: http://pastebin.com/Nqijsgud

As always, this tracker is powered by anonymous like you, so post order numbers if you've got em'.

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15647921

As per usual, haro's added another title last friday, and as per usual the thread was already dead.

http://mangagamer.org/announcements/

Given her words, I think we might see one more added this friday right before the con, bringing us to six.

Assuming there are six, that gives you one more title to work with. What do you suppose then, /jp/?

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>>15647447
>Maitetsu - 19.27% translated
Everytime I see the update, I feel that Maitetsu is going to release in 2018 at this speed.
Nice choice for picking SP, Lose.

Also, Otakon prediction card when?

>> No.15647931

>>15647921
WA 2.

>> No.15647950

>>15647926
>Tenshin Ranman - 33.78%
>Chrono Clock - 26.84% translated

These titles were announced over a year ago. Will SP become JAST-lite?

>> No.15647951

>>15647926
>Also, Otakon prediction card when?

Probably Friday, given
>>15647921
and the fact that sekai hasn't said anything yet.

>> No.15647965 [DELETED] 

>>15645494
>Did you guys know that the reason Shiny Days was censored and JAST had to release a patch was actually Sekai fault. Back then their translators worked on it and demanded that it should be censored or they would quit.
>
>So even at the very beginning Sekai was shit and people blindly showered them with Kickstarter money and praise.

I know /jp/ likes to shitpost Sekai but if true, it means this "translator" is poppyhead and should never touch anything Japanese ever again.

>> No.15647973

>>15645494
>Did you guys know that the reason Shiny Days was censored and JAST had to release a patch was actually Sekai fault. Back then their translators worked on it and demanded that it should be censored or they would quit.
>
>So even at the very beginning Sekai was shit and people blindly showered them with Kickstarter money and praise.

I know /jp/ likes to shitpost Sekai but if true, it means this "translator" is poopyhead and should never touch anything Japanese ever again

>> No.15647978

>>15647973
>it means this "translator" is poopyhead

This infantile tumblrspeak triggers me. Please do not do this.

>> No.15647979

>>15647950
They're arguably worst than JAST already. Even JAST wouldn't have taken 3 years to translate two episodes of a doujin games like WEE despite a super successful Kickstarter.

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>>15647978

>> No.15647997

What would happen if a developer went out of business and closed before SP/JAST released one of their licensed titles? Could SP/JAST force the IP holder to negotiate a new contract or would SP/JAST have to honor the original agreement?

>> No.15648020

>>15647997
It'd be highly situational and depend on the terms of the agreement.

>> No.15648060

>>15647926
It's better for us if that censored trash never gets finished.

>> No.15648076
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>>15647465
#SlayTheGay
Keep fighting the good fight, brother.

>> No.15648369

Is Dovac kicked out of SP yet?

>> No.15648385

>>15648369
It's hard to browse /jp/, isn't it?

>>15634445

>> No.15648388

>>15648385
Maybe you should read that thread.

Or the Reddit thread since you're so keen on that too.

But I guess literacy is hard for an inbred mongrel.

>> No.15648392

>>15648388
>implying you would get more trustworthy info on this thread than in the other one

>> No.15648776

>>15647868
Order Number - 206133
Order Date - 2016-08-05

>> No.15648845

>>15647465
This is hardly exclusive to gay porn.

>> No.15648851

>>15647926
>>15647950
Don't forget that not only do they take forever to translate anything, but forever to release anything too.

Unless it's a Sakura title. Another one, please. 20 isn't enough.

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>>15647868
Recent purchase...

>> No.15648946
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>>15648937
Oh, shit, wrong pic.

>> No.15648995

>>15647868
Order Number - 206295
Order Date - 2016-08-06

>> No.15649004
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15649004

What did you buy from MGs sale

>> No.15649025

>>15649004
With that price >>15648937 it's pretty easy to guess.

>> No.15649030
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>>15649004
Some games

Please MG, reward my money spent with new Da Capo titles

>> No.15649061

>>15649030
Silly anon, you missed Fata and Euphoria somehow.

>> No.15649087

>>15649061
Honestly this was about all I could spend on this stuff. I'll pick up another batch of games in the winter sale.

>> No.15649101

So I heard there's been no progress on SukiSuki for the past 2 weeks because there are internal fights about romanization.

>> No.15649119

>>15649030
I guess this is the issue with using order number during sales. Most people aren't going to buy a single title during a sale on so many different titles.

>> No.15649139

Supipara is still first on MG site so it should be doing well.

>> No.15649150

>>15649101
Most likely SP wants to cut all the honorifics before release it censored in Steam.

>> No.15649151

>>15649139
I'm pretty sure there are people buying the game multiple times to inflate the sales and contribute to the fund-raiser.

>> No.15649165

>>15649150
SukiSuki is MG. I know Arunaru was acting like dovac, but it's foolish to confuse the companies.

>> No.15649184

>>15649165
Ups, sorry. I missread SukiSuki as SakuSaku.

>> No.15649188

>>15649165
Probably just confused with SakuSaku, I know I was, because Arunaru and DxS wouldn't give a shit about it.

>> No.15649348

The companies are doing many things wrong and that is why the market is shit.

>> No.15649406

>>15649348
>and that is why the market is shit
If you are talking about the western market then even if they were doing things right it, sadly, wouldn't magically increase sales by a huge amount. People need to come back to reality and realise that VNs are still a niche market and the only runaway successes (as in Nekopara volume of sales) were because of a mix of first time exposure on steam, making them novelty at the time, and getting meme status by being picked up by big streamers and such.
That doesn't mean you can't have a sucess (see eden* as an example), it just means you shouldn't expect every thing released be it good quality or not to have runaway sale amounts.

>> No.15649407

>>15647447
https://vndb.org/v10106
Culture Select is localizing Dead End Junction.

>> No.15649433

>>15647921
I think they're just hoping that Supipara Chapter 2 hits its goal before the con. Otherwise they're working on some last minute deal that might or might not be done in time. All Haro said was that all their announcements would be posted before their panel.

>> No.15649444

>Bishoujo Mangekyou - TL 100%, Editing: 33,9%, QC: 20,1%, Proofreading: 0%

>> No.15649453

>>15649101
That makes no sense even if it were true, which I doubt it even is. If they did want to change it, they could just run a find and replace. There'd be no need to stall the entire translation just for that.

>> No.15649455

>>15649433
Doubt it. The first week sales were average at best, pitiful at worst, so I doubt they would get to the goal that soon. And while they hyped it up, even MangaGamer should know that getting to 200k in a month would be an impossibly high goal.

>> No.15649460

>>15649406
VNs are still a niche market exactly because they are doing things wrong. While they could probably never bring it to the same level as the mainstream game market if done right they can still bring it to a level where no matter what they release it would still make them a decent profit.

>> No.15649462

>>15649139
That or their sales ranking is broken or hasn't updated for days.

>> No.15649473

>>15649453
MG wants to change it, but Arunaru doesn't.

>> No.15649477

>>15649462
The rest of the ranking changed a few times while Supipara stayed first so we can confirm that it is being updated.

>> No.15649484

>>15649151
This kind of disproves the point of the fundraiser in the first place, which is to show how popular the series is in the west. A small group of people buying a vn multiple times is really unusual behavior. And even then it likely won't hit the numbers that minori was hoping for it order for them to make new episodes.

>> No.15649508

>>15649455
They could have been hoping that as a low price title and from the creators of eden* that it would sell a few thousand copies and scrape by before the con. I'm pretty sure that the comment was made before the abysmal launch weekend sales were tallied.

>> No.15649511

Dovac doesn't come to Sekai Discord anymore so I guess he really is dead.

>> No.15649515

>>15649473
That still doesn't change the fact that a find and replace could be done easily and no need to stall the translation. It being such a minor issue, I doubt they'd stall an entire project for the sake of one letter.

>> No.15649604

>>15649453
It's some faggot autist that has spent the last 3 weeks shitposting about Yuki vs Yuuki. Got blocked by Aarnaru on twitter for it. If only I could do the same here.

>> No.15649613

>>15649407
>Culture Select

Literally who?

>> No.15649623

>>15649613
https://vndb.org/p6155

And from the OP
>Wish Tale of the Sixteenth Night - 75% QC

>> No.15649626
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>>15649613
The one doing that Tsukihime knockoff, Wish https://vndb.org/v12750

>> No.15649631

>>15649511
I wish they'd just come out and say that the shit he did was unacceptable.

>> No.15649635

>>15649623
>Culture Select is a Delaware, USA based publishing and localization company.

Anything get cut for content? Any pronouns get translated as "xir"? They're fairly liberal over there.

>> No.15649647

>>15649626
OK, now I recognize them. They did the kickstarter for that.

>> No.15649660

>>15649635
They've only done all-ages content so far, so nothing has needed to be cut.

>> No.15649676

Christ MG's Higurashi is coming on slowly

>> No.15649682

>>15649676
They really might as well just drop it

>> No.15649688

>>15649660
Knowing US localization companies, being all-ages is no guarantee that content won't be cut.

>> No.15649692

>>15649682
They turned around Umineko much faster. I'm just not sure what's taking them so long.

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Stop teasing me in an all-ages vn you slut.

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>>15649682
My theory is they're going to finish the Question arc as separate chapters and then bundle all the Answer chapters like Umineko. Chiru when?

>> No.15649709

>>15649692
Maybe the doddler backlog. Poor dude is overworked. Please give him a raise, MG. I mean the monetary and not the peen kind.

>> No.15649722

>>15649693
Simple solution, don't play fucking all-ages crap.

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>>15649722
Never fucking reply to me again.

>> No.15649731

Is it wrong to fap to all-age ?

>> No.15649736

>>15649727
Here, I did it.

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>>15649693
I'm more worried about that this VN is kinetic and you be forced to play a route with a girl you don't like (I'm pretty sure that Alice will be the OP).

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>>15649697
Never. Or 2019 if the Question arc is anything to go by

>> No.15649758

>>15649692
Witch Hunt worked on Umineko, while I believe they're contracting whoever they can for Higurashi. The slow releases are definitely killing the sales but the situations are quite different since Umineko has a dedicated fan-TL group working on it, the very same group that translated the games originally and had an overall fast pace at working on them.

Higurashi is worked on by like, whoever. I think all 3 of the currently released episodes have different translators.

On the bright side, Kai likely doesn't require a complete retranslation so maybe those will get released quicker.

>> No.15649764

>>15649758
>Higurashi is worked on by like, whoever. I think all 3 of the currently released episodes have different translators.

2 and 3 were the same guy https://twitter.com/darkslime7/

>> No.15649771

>>15649348
>>15649460
>wrong
Please specify these wrong things.

>> No.15649772

>>15649758
>On the bright side, Kai likely doesn't require a complete retranslation so maybe those will get released quicker.

Do you know the reason for this?

Either way, that's good news.

>> No.15649778

>>15649771
Not releasing the games I want the way I want with the translation I want.
Fuck them.

>> No.15649787

>>15649473
Source? Because everyone seen so far don't think it's necessary to change. At most, they say that they prefer one but think that both are valid.

>> No.15649802

>>15649697
They talked about releasing Kai as a bundle already.

>> No.15649808

>>15649772
The Kai chapters were translated by a different translator and had better quality than the earlier chapters.

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>>15649802
Oh, nice for them. Now Chiru remains.

>> No.15649854

Gare is so lewd! and i like it

>> No.15649944

>>15649771
There is no point, not like they are going to change now but sure I list a few things.

- They need better marketing.

- They also need to experiment more with different kinds of VNs.

- Stop with stealth releases.

- Better release dates, they need to pay attention not to release their VNs too close to other big games or games that target the same audience since most VN fans are also gamers.

- Steam was a mistake, instead of focusing on Steam they should focus on improving their own stores.

- Translating more HRPGs, HRPGs have a big community so it would increase the traffic for their sites. They dont have to go for the big well know ones, even just doing cheep RPG maker shit would help too.

- For MG:
- Releasing Higurashi in chapters instead of releasing the whole question arc together and then the whole answer arc together.
- Relesing Umineko before Higurashi is finished.
- For Liar-soft steampunk series starting with Gahkthun instead of the first one, for a game series you should always start with the first one unless its something like Final Fantasy where most games happen in different worlds.

- JAST is too slow, they need to hire more competent people.

- Sekai is doing everything wrong so no need to specify anything.

Those are only few among the many mistakes they are making.

>> No.15649950

>>15649660
If only companies worked that way. We already have cut Mugen Souls and waiting on cut Criminal Girls just because "These games are popular in the west, but it is hard to sell them in the west because we are SJWs"

>> No.15649993

>>15649944
>- Relesing Umineko before Higurashi is finished.
I don't see the problem there. They're being worked on by entirely different teams.

>-For Liar-soft steampunk series starting with Gahkthun instead of the first one
The first game in the series is very dates and likely wouldn't have sold very well either. The ones directly after it were already fantranslated by Ixrec, which would've lowered their expected sales.

>> No.15650000

>>15649950
The Criminal Girls reasoning for censorship is ridiculous because increasing consent in a game about forcefully rehabilitating female criminals makes no sense.

>> No.15650017

>>15649993
> fantranslated by Ixrec
May as well have never been translate

>> No.15650021

is the freeman autist going to delete this thread too

>> No.15650023

>>15650017
Judging by your post, you don't need to worry about the quality of English translations.

>> No.15650024

>>15649944
> For Liar-soft steampunk series starting with Gahkthun instead of the first one
They should not touched Sakurai's gibberish in the first place. Should go for Kusarihime instead. Western marked would love it.

>> No.15650025

>>15650017
Doesn't matter how bad the translation is, people don't want to pay for something even if they've only read a poorly translated version of it. The only exception is if the game has a good crowdfunding campaign and is considered a kamige.

>> No.15650031

>>15649993
Umineko has Higurashi references and most people tell you to read Higurashi first so at last some people are waiting for Higurashi to finish before buying Umineko.

Celenaria is not that dated, even today its still looks good. But even aside from that if old games did not sell GOG would never have been made, and also its setting is more interesting so it would at least sell better then Gahkthun.

>> No.15650050

>>15650024
Good luck selling that one to MG's usual audience. It can't be put on Steam uncensored either.

>> No.15650055

>>15650031
I really doubt it would've sold better than Gahkthun. Gahkthun at least looks modern. The problem is how niche Sakurai's vns are.

>> No.15650067

>>15650000
They're totally full of shit. NISA is completely garbage right now, which is saying something about the company that gifted us with Ar Tonelico 2.
When you use terms like "power distance" to explain why you are censoring something, you completely lose any credibility you had. Their excuse is to avoid an AO rating when the game would have not gotten an AO.
VNs don't need to be rated so hopefully all-ages games will never be touched, but that is obviously not the case because it seems like Grisaia has censorship even beyond what the All-Ages JP version had. Now it's just best to hope that something like If My Heart Had Wings never happens again. Maitetsu will probably get similar treatment, though.

>> No.15650076

>>15650050
MG's usual audience love horror and mystery unlike pretentious gibberish though. And Steam meme is dead.

>> No.15650080

>>15650031
I don't think a few references are enough to justify holding off on releasing Umineko. Most people have already read them anyway, they just want to reread them with updated art and updated translation.

>> No.15650084

>>15649944
>They need better marketing.
Please explain what type of marketing. Getting some sites to talk about your upcoming releases, releases and eventually reviews isn't exactly cheap. Also, that type of marketing for a specific VN isn't the only one available o spread the word. If you look at this thread, many people talk well of MG because they not only are against censorship but they put a visible effort to localize a VN with the respect it deserves. Simply getting this sort of reputation is marketing (although I recognize that very few people follow VNTLS).

>They also need to experiment more with different kinds of VNs.
I'm unsure about what you mean by this. All localization companies have some variety in the VNs they released so far. Care to elaborate? Unless you mean one of the point you mentioned later (HRPG).

>Stop with stealth releases.
Related to marketing. So far I only remember JAST and SP doing that kind of releases. Never with MG. Btw, I mainly use twitter and this thread to be updated.

>Better release dates, they need to pay attention not to release their VNs too close to other big games or games that target the same audience since most VN fans are also gamers.
I agree although I believe we're talking about different kinds of audiences.

>Steam was a mistake, instead of focusing on Steam they should focus on improving their own stores.
Partially agreed. I believe Steam should be considered a bonus and they should not release games to please Steam audience. But yeah, having a good looking store could somewhat work but I don't expect sales to dramatically improve because of that.

>Translating more HRPGs, HRPGs have a big community so it would increase the traffic for their sites. They dont have to go for the big well know ones, even just doing cheep RPG maker shit would help too.
I believe an announcement next week will fix this. I hope

>>15650076
No, they love sex.

>> No.15650086

>>15650076
Fata Morgana sold like shit, so so much for MG audience liking horror and mystery.

>> No.15650090

>>15649944
>They also need to experiment more with different kinds of VNs.

They do? MG has quite a varied selection of titles, so I'm not sure why you think they stick to 1 or 2 genres.

>> No.15650118

>>15650086
The story on par with music was awesome. Wtf is wrong with those westerns.

>> No.15650122

>>15650118
Art looks fujo

>> No.15650135

>>15649771
In my opinion these are the right things to do:

- Cross marketing. If there is an hentai/anime based on your VN, then strike a deal that their hentai/anime should advertise the game, and let your game advertise the movie. Potentially also involve discounts for buying one or the other.

- Picking the right titles. If you want a nudity free all-ages, PICK ONE. It is suicide to pick games that don't fit your plan and then butcher them until they resemble what you wanted. Whoever suggested popular adult games would magically become popular all-ages need to be shot.

- Equal pricing. You don't sell it for 10 dollar on Steam, 20 dollar on your own store and 50 dollars in the drug alley. Don't abuse customers, give them all equal prices. This means all-ages and adult games that share the same content. (if they share almost nothing, go ahead and set different prices)

- Crowdfunding could be a great tool for niche games. If the entire compay thinks a certain niche genre would sell terribly bad, throw up a indiegogo and see if the expected low interest is still willing to invest enough money to make it happen. (For example dickgirl VNs)

- Keep in mind that Steam = all-ages console, is a very limited view on Steam potential. It is better to see it as a PC game distribution system that can get us any PC game with any content. (As long as the heavy stuff comes in a patch)

>> No.15650138

>>15650118
We like porn, basically.

>> No.15650148
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>>15650067
Games in the US don't need to be rated as I recall. You do it voluntarily to placate the retarded soccer moms buying games for their children only to find something questionable and making a stink about it. Some retailers won't carry a game without a rating. Online, it's different. You don't actually need a rating at all to be sold. Not sure about other countries though.

>> No.15650170

>>15650148
>Some retailers won't carry a game without a rating

It is obviously that. The companies want to reach all "customers" without considering the fact that if it is a raunchy breast massage game, those "customers" probably do not hang around physical stores.

>> No.15650179

>>15650086
The gooks can keep their all ages crap

>> No.15650184

>>15650179
>gooks

They're not Corean.

>> No.15650219

>>15650135
Many hentai anime aren't available in the west officially, so crossmarketing is a really limited market. MG did do a promotion involving Koihime Musou's anime, but it wasn't a hentai and was officially released in the west.

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>>15650122
Art and story gets way better later. I really recommend Fata Morgana. Trust me. I wouldn't want a /jp/sie to waste their money (although, unlike others I didn't really care for the music).

>> No.15650221

>>15650148
Console manufacturers won't allow unrated or AO games in their shops, either, which is why even in the digital age console games still get rated, even if they're digital-only.
In NISA's case they've also said they refuse to release unrated games even on PC because of "company policy" or some other nonsense.

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>>15650138
Fata has porn.

Ear porn.

>>15650179
Fata is not all ages.

>> No.15650267

>>15650138
Tbh I don't like wasting my time on 20 hours of plotge for just a crappy forced H scene
I'd rather read a moege or nukige for that because they usually have better scenes.

>> No.15650285

>>15650267
The porn is a reward for suffering through the plot.

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>>15650285
For what purpose?

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>> No.15650294

>>15650290
Because then you can say you read it.

>> No.15650296

>>15650285
>a crappy 5 minute forced porn scene validates your wasting 20 hours on a supposedly terrible plot
You need to get your perspectives in order.

>> No.15650302

>>15650292
Pathetic.

>> No.15650305

>>15650292
I hope it's half of their current goals for the first two chapters. If, it's more, I'm not even going to buy Ch. 1 since it seems like an impossible goal and I don't like cliffhangers or incomplete games.

>> No.15650312

>>15650292
I already did. Don't care about Chapter 3, tho.

>> No.15650327

>>15650292
I bought it already, but this is pretty sad. Too bad, Minori.

>> No.15650329

>>15650292
>3+
>+
Going to be a stretch to just even get to 2 at the current rate. Might just be better to just say it will properly end at chapter 3 and then people might be more willing to put money in to it knowing they are less likely to be left with an unfinished story. Is one of the main factors putting people off as who wants to buy something without a proper ending?

>> No.15650330

>>15650292
If it was 200k just to bring over the already complete chapters I'd imagine the goal would be way higher than that to make the others from scratch so no. You'd just turn people off showing them a high number that will likely never be reached.

>> No.15650336

Is there just no movement on 18+ Grissaia no Meikyuu at all?

>> No.15650343

You'll never read subahibi and dies irae, boys.

>> No.15650348

>>15650343
Dies Irae is already in translation.

>> No.15650359

>>15650343
Dies Irae is boring anyways.

>> No.15650402

>>15650336
There will be no 18+ version for GnM or GnR, dovac is too pissed at people for not buying stuff at denpasoft.

>> No.15650415

>>15650402
Dovac is gone.

>> No.15650417

>>15650336
They're "prioritizing Rakuen".

>> No.15650425

>>15650415
No, he's just having another monthly "left twitter" fit. He'll be back shitposting before september.

>> No.15650459

>>15650292
No, because the game's still wouldn't be released for months or years. Has Higurashi's dropping sales on Steam taught you nothing?

>> No.15650463

>>15650219
Not sure what else you can do for marketing. The usual suggestion of "make reviewers who hate VNs cover VNs" never sounded like a sane idea. And if they like VNs, they would already be covering them by default.

>> No.15650465

I love it when /jp/ tries talk about economics and general sales. Most people here clearly have no fucking idea what they're talking about.

>> No.15650468

>>15650415
He's not gone, he's just avoiding social media. Sekai is just making it appear that he's gone to stifle negative opinions of the company. He's still the founder and boss there, he can't be fired.

>> No.15650471

>>15650086
Fata Morgana is all ages crap and MG audience don't give a shit about all ages crap unless its something really big like Higurashi/Umineko. No wonder it tanked.

>> No.15650484

>>15650471
None of the titles in your post are all ages.

>> No.15650490

>>15650463
The Rock, Paper, Shotgun review for Muv Luv was atrocious and most of the comments were equally misinformed.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/08/02/muv-luv-english-review/

>> No.15650496

>>15650465

Perhaps the same could said of all topics that /jp/ speaks about.

>> No.15650499

>>15650484
All-ages just means no H scenes. Grisaia "all ages" is a 17+ rated game.

>> No.15650508

Have many chuuni games have we gotten besides Tokyo Babel? Do you think the western audience is too immature for them?

>> No.15650520

>>15650465
What if someone actually has a job about economics ?

>> No.15650523
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>>15647926
Whenever I see Maitetsu I remember
>all ages
and I die a little bit more on the inside.

>> No.15650525

>>15650499
Yeah, but the name itself is inaccurate. Fata is way more fucked up than most 18+ titles. It just doesn't show a penis.

I guess for Americans literal torture is tame in comparison to boobs or a vagina, though.

>> No.15650528

>>15650508
> too immature
> Le lets turn Christian gods into weebs the game
Not a single mature person wouldn't cringe while reading such shit, anon.

>> No.15650536

>>15650465
I m pretty sure that I could at last run Sekai better then the current people.

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>>15649484
Cool story bro

I guess sales still mean something is really good in Japan though, right?

>> No.15650539

absolute lel kek at EOPs
I'm glad your shitty market is falling apart

>> No.15650540

>>15650508
More like chuuni titles are too immature for west

>> No.15650546

>>15650539
Don't worry, it's falling apart in Japan too.

>> No.15650549

>>15650546
Less that you think.

>> No.15650560

>>15650549
But Moogy told me that Vn-industry is dead in Japan!

>> No.15650565

>>15650538
The issue is people buying this game multiple times just to get its sequels. They don't do that for most titles. It's unusual behavior that might not carry over for the rest of the series and doesn't apply to other games.

>> No.15650588

>>15650292
Does this prove it's selling like shit?

>> No.15650589

>>15650468
It's funny that what got him in trouble with the rest of SP WASN'T another one of his fucking twitter fits, but firing two PR people out of the blue without talking to anybody else.

>> No.15650593

>>15650538
Praying a rich sultan with money to burn takes an interest in your kusoge isn't a good business strategy.

>> No.15650602

>>15650292
Yes if the goal for the 3 chapter was $250K, because at this rate is almost impossible to found the 5 chapter in less than 6 years from now.

>> No.15650619

>>15650588
It at least proves they haven't reached the next goal yet when they thought they were going to.

>> No.15650625

>>15650508
>Do you think the western audience is too immature for them?
SMT/Persona games are pretty popular and have the same kind of themes that are usually put in them. Though I personally found Tokyo Babel kinda took a step too far with the info dumps on explaining the moves and bits of lore etc, and at points I thought " just get on with it".

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>>15650593
>>15650565
It makes me sick seeing someone supporting a shitty studio like minori so vehemently.

>> No.15650653

>>15650625
Persona games have actual gameplay though.

>> No.15650662

>>15650653
Pretty bad gameplay though

>> No.15650663

Why did Dovac kill Baldr Sky?

>> No.15650711

>>15650663
No kamige for EOPs

>> No.15650731

>>15650711
I will translate Baldr Sky and release it before Sekai.

>> No.15650759

>>15650731
Thank you Cudora

>> No.15650837
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Is Hamashima a lesbian or something?

>> No.15650906

Supipara chapter 1 is Sakura's route and chapter 2 is Hotaru's route. I can't believe that the title heroine doesn't have a route in the existing chapters.

>> No.15651011

>>15650837
Aren't we all?

>> No.15651015

>>15651011
Nope.

>> No.15651024

>>15651015
Gay.

>> No.15651091

>>15650837
>ウエイトリフティング選手
>可愛い
Something's not right here.

>> No.15651132

>>15650906
The main heroine of Supipara is Sakura.

>> No.15651267

>>15650906
Gotta save her for last if you want people to keep buying them.

>> No.15651272

>>15651267
It's working out well so far

>> No.15651307
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>> No.15651317

>>15651267
That is how I play Galaxy Angel. Or was, until I quit after 3 boring characters.

>> No.15651419

>>15651307
Why is her head so massive

>> No.15651441

>>15650631
I dunno, Minori seems to be a good studio when money is in the table. Supipara is really good looking in motion.

>> No.15651456

>>15651441
The old minori died with Supipara.

>> No.15651490

We need more Loli Protagonist VNs.

>> No.15651501

>>15651490
Well, there will be Himawari. But I assume you meant with adult theme.

>> No.15651522

>>15651501
Isn't Himawari protagonist male ?

>> No.15651537

>>15651522
Why would there be a male in an all-ages game? Clearly that adult content must have been written out.

>> No.15651696

>>15651132
Then why isn't her name in the game's title?

>> No.15651750

>>15649101

I just skipped updates this time because Otakon's next weekend and only a few games had substantial progress because everyone's kind of caught up in con prep.

>> No.15651847

>>15651750

You pick the strangest shit to reply to.

>> No.15651926

>>15651847

Just an excuse to mention why there were no updates this week really.

>> No.15651943

>>15651926
Is there a separate progress bar for the patch with the changed name? I am expecting it to be changed in the OP as well.

>> No.15652011

>>15650465
I love it when faggots from somewhere else (possibly reddit) don't know that /jp/ is filled with geniuses pretending to be stupid.

>> No.15652017

>>15650508
"Chuuni" in Japan is emo kids. It got bastardized by that retard moogy to mean anything not SOL.

>> No.15652018

>>15651943
What makes you think MG will change the name?

>> No.15652023

>>15652018
His delusion.

>> No.15652031

>>15652011

I wish I could tell myself that and believe it.

>> No.15652035

https://vndb.org/v19233 Seems interesting, I really need to start learning Japanese.

>> No.15652037

>>15649041
Some anon posted this on another thread about the Steam audience.

>> No.15652039

>>15652035
No need, Aroduc is apparently translating it.

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>>15650292

>> No.15652062
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>>15652031
If you don't believe in /jp/, who else are you going to believe? Fuwa?

>> No.15652074

>>15652062

Why believe in anyone? Just give into the despair and lose faith in everything.

>> No.15652087

>>15652074
Hell yeah. Now that's what I call chuuni.

>> No.15652097

>>15650292

no plans to buy it, or even pirate it, unless they give a more detailed explanation on how they're going to use the money

>> No.15652132

>>15650292

I'll buy it when I can get the whole thing in a bundle.

>> No.15652365

>>15652097
What's not detailed about "license and translate supipara 2"?

>> No.15652416

>>15652365
Ask Dovac how that's going with Baldr Sky.

>> No.15652435

>>15651456

In old minori VNs:

>Wind
people die
>ef
lots of people die
>eden*
half the people on the planet die
>Supipara
A game company dies

>> No.15652667 [DELETED] 

Who's going to provide us with inane twitter drama now that dovac is dead?

>> No.15652693 [DELETED] 

>>15652667
This is hardly the first time he has "died".

He'll come back.

>> No.15652709 [DELETED] 

>>15652667
Dovac will, in about a week.
There'll probably be some drama at Otakon, too, but I doubt it'll be as big as when Baldr was announced.

>> No.15652766 [DELETED] 

>>15652709
Biggest otakon drama will be complete silence on 18+ Baldr and Maitetsu. After initial outrage, some SP person will claim they didn't have enough panel time to talk about 18+ versions, and entitled jp & reddit & vndb twats should have some patience and wait till /some other con in future/.

>> No.15652842

hello

>> No.15652890

Frontwing is going to have a Ask me Anything in leddit this tuesday, at 7PM PST, if anyone is interested.

>>15652842
fuck off.

>> No.15652915

>>15652890
Could you ask them to fuck off with their Huniepop ripoffs and episodic garbage? I don't have a reddit account.

>> No.15652956

why do i like visual novels?

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>>15652915
Me neither. Go and create an account if you want to ask them something, lazy fucker.
Either way, Frontwing will fucked up again and again.

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>>15652956
the cute girls obviously

>> No.15652995

I'm pretty surprised that there's still no Spanish translation of Higurashi. I read it recently in English, but I can't recommend it to anyone since nobody can read it (and I'm bad at translating, so I can't do that either)

>> No.15653029

>>15652995
That's what the internet is for.
My friends are normie plebs who don't even play video games, let alone read vns.

>> No.15653221

Dovac's entire twitter timeline has been deleted now except for two posts.

https://twitter.com/dobacco/with_replies

>> No.15653225

>>15653221
He only deleted 3,000 more, give or take. He set the remaining 25.98k tweets to private.

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>>15653221
I was going to post old dovac tweets after the thread hits the bump limit.

>> No.15653235

>>15653228
>that reply
Savage

>> No.15653242

>>15653221
Why leave those two tweets only? Is he trying to send some sort of message?

What could he mean by that?

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>>15653235
It was pretty great this time around. Usually the people who reply to him are a bunch of retarded ass kissers.

>> No.15653262

>>15653242
>Why leave those two tweets only? Is he trying to send some sort of message?

If he is, it's a shit one.

>> No.15653265

>>15650402
People paid for the 18+ version in the kickstarter, SP can't back off this one. They will take ages though.

>> No.15653271

>>15650625
>>15650653
SMT is one the best jrpg series and persona slice of life is better than 80% of the vn market. You can't compare something like Tokyo Babel and AAA jrpg.

>> No.15653276

>>15653262
>remember poiiii
Looks like a good one to me, I'm certainly not going to forget all the shit Dovac as spouted

>> No.15653284

>>15653265
Kickstarter is not a store. You can basically promise almost anything and then later say, "Due to unseen circumstances, we weren't able to give you X-Y-Z" and people can't do shit about it. Look at all the crappy indies that gets released with only half the features promised. Of course if Sekai actually does this, they will lose a ton of backers for their future kickstarters.

>> No.15653315

>>15653284
They already did that for WAS. They said that it would be translated anyway, so the KS was exclusively for the voices. Then they added a bunch of stuff for stretch goals.

In the end, after delay upon delay upon delay, announcing multiple times that a patch adding everything was almost complete and being updated next week, or that things had arrived in the warehouse and were waiting to be shipped, they declared it all null and void and blamed the doujin group for problems with the voices, then delivered literally nothing.

>> No.15653406

>>15653221
Bitch better update his Linkedin too.

>> No.15653545

>>15647868
Order Number - 206665
Order Date - 2016-08-08

>> No.15653676

>>15649477
Now it's 4 in the rank.
If they're lucky maybe with this sale they can increase the minori-founds with $5/10K but at this rate, reaching the full goal (5 chap) it's almost impossible.

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Hey weeaboos, when will you grow up like MDZ-sama?

http://mdzanime.me/2016/07/08/news-july-2016/

>One of the discoveries made on the trip was the realization that I might be progressively outgrowing visual novels (or just Japanese media in general). I had visited Akihabara, the so-called Mecca of anime and related media, both during this visit and during the last. In contrast to my visit last year, my venture this year was grounded more in obligation than desire (e.g. “If I’m going to be in the area, I may as well pay Akihabara a visit). In noting this, I mean to point out that my drive (or passion) for the media has gradually subsided since the last year.

>> No.15654183

>>15654162
> MDZ-sama
Literally who?

>> No.15654193

>>15647868
205985 - 2016-08-03

>> No.15654203

>>15654162
Getting bored of a medium isn't growing up.

>> No.15654331

>>15654183
The guy that translated KoiRizo for you, you ungrateful fagboy.

>> No.15654337

>>15654331
>translated

>> No.15654340

>>15654337
>>15654331
Yeah, the TL was almost as shit as the game.

>> No.15654358

>>15654337
>>15654340
And how can you EOP pals tell, pray tell?

>> No.15654371

>>15654358
By not being an ESL shitwad like you.

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>>15654371

>> No.15654383

>>15654162
It's like déjà vu all over again. Although, I guess I should stop replying to bait so the thread can last longer.

>> No.15654387

>>15654374
Did I mention anything about your last post?
Even if I didn't know Japanese, which I somewhat do, I can tell if the English in a translation is shit.

>> No.15654390

>>15654387
>which I somewhat do
:-)

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I wonder if it's imopara 2, given that hasn't moved in a month. It'd also be somewhat amusing given the same thing happened to original.

What is it about sister fucking games that causes them to generate so much internal drama and sell so well?

>> No.15654413

>>15654411
I'm telling you. Arunaru doesn't want to work on SukiSuki anymore due to MG making him change the name.

>> No.15654430

>>15654413
Fuck off already with this shit, retard.

>> No.15654434

>>15654430
Stay mad, Arunaru.

>> No.15654436

>>15654434
I'll translate Yuuki as Yuki just for you. :^)

>> No.15654439

>>15654436
Just not that, please.

>> No.15654441

>>15654411
If it has a lot of blowjobs, that seems like a prime candidate for Arunaru. All the blowjob games seem to gravitate towards him.

>> No.15654443

>>15654439
Too late, fucker.

>> No.15654458

>>15654436
All the Yuuki shit is stupid when "Kyonyu" Fantasy has the same thing. It's a little hidden in the mammaries, but it's still there.

Yet, no one brings it up, because it doesn't matter. That, and the more controversy localized title, I guess.

>> No.15654473

>>15654458
It's not brought up because
a) It's not the localized title
b) It doesn't become another name

>> No.15654475

>>15654458
No one brings it up because they are more concerned with the terrible localized title

>> No.15654489

>>15654475
The Japanese title was stupid too. The only difference is that it sounded foreign to westerners and people think that foreign sounding=better.

>> No.15654497

>>15654489
>The Japanese title was stupid too
It certainly isn't titles like 根暗いじめられっこを助けたら懐かれた!~隠れ爆乳美少女といいなり孕ませ同棲生活~ exist

>> No.15654501

>>15654489
巨乳 is common.

>> No.15654505

>>15654501
Being common doesn't make something sound less moronic.

>> No.15654516

>>15654505
It's less stupid than 爆乳, but whatever you say, MG fanboi.

>> No.15654550

>>15654516
Get over it blogmorph.

>> No.15654722

>>15654458
I recently realized the famous ero manga MEGA MILK was a Kyonyuu title. And we really should have had MEGA MILK FANTASY.

>> No.15654743

>>15654722
It has a lot of lactation scenes so it works.

>> No.15654867

>>15654722
That's not even a bad idea.

>> No.15655871

>>15654411
What was the original time that he said the translation would be completed?

>> No.15655909

Remember when VNs used to be good ?

>> No.15655927

>>15655909
No because they were all in Japanese

>> No.15655975

>>15655909
Best VNs are Knights of Xentar, True Love, Season of Sakura, MayClub, Nocturnal illusion, Three sister story.

They don't localize high profile VNs like that anymore.

>> No.15655990

>>15655975
>Season of Sakura
>>>/s/team

>> No.15656004

>>15655975
Season of Sakura was the first VN I ever played, way back in the day. I went through it again a few weeks ago to relive the nostalgia, it was kind of nice for that but it really isn't good.

>> No.15656113

>>15655975
Hey I like Nocturnal Illusion.

>> No.15656126

Speaking of old VNs the old art stile was better too.

>> No.15656202

https://www.indiegala.com/dharker

What a steal! (From the buyer)

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>>15656202
I wouldn't want an AJTilley game even for free. I get physically ill looking at the ugly as fuck artwork.

>> No.15656663
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>>15654411
https://twitter.com/CafeDX/status/762800412072095744

>> No.15656673

>>15656663
>Quit to translate Eustia

It's the hero we deserve.

>> No.15656687

>>15656663
MangaGamer imploding. Soon only Peter Payne will be left in this industry.

>> No.15656706
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>>15656687
Fuuck. This would be the optimal chance to single rule the VN business for him. Just buy both MG and SP and be crowned king

>> No.15656712

>>15656663
>back to fantranslating for free and promote piracy

smart

>> No.15656716

>>15656663
What the hell is this shitty game he's working on

https://vndb.org/v15473

>> No.15656739

>>15656716
If Sekai Pro is still alive when he gets close to releasing it I'm positive TotesNotDovac will pick it up. Cafe goal is to take revenge by working with the enemy

>> No.15656743

>>15656663
Aru now has to translate Kuroinu.

>> No.15656819

>>15656716
I've seen it posted on /vg/ occasionally

>> No.15656830

>>15656716
A rather popular mystery game

>> No.15656842

>>15656663

Wow, that's a legitimate shock

>> No.15656866

>>15656663
Translations are finished, prepare for the era of Sekai domination. All hail Dovac, the savior of VNs.

>> No.15656876

>>15656663
So the Western VN scene is finally crashing and burning. I'm going to miss these threads.

>> No.15656879

>>15656866
>>15656876

Sometimes I just don't understand people

>> No.15656891

>>15656866
>>15656876
>>15656879
It was nice lurking on these threads, reading all of your conspiracy theories and whatnot. I've already started the tortuous and torturous road of learning japanese so see you on the untranslated threads!

>> No.15656913

>>15650602
Considering they didn't drop the funding after it took a year for chapter 1 to get funded, that seems like exactly what they are expecting.

I'd expect chapter 3 to be about 400k, chapter 4 to be 600k, and chapter 5 to be 900k (because it's extra long or something like that).

>> No.15656937
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>>15656913
I cannot see them breaking the 400k in at least 6 years or more with the Minori's actual translated stuff, including Trinoline.
Maybe with the others Minori stuff post-supipara will short it for one or two years.
En conclusion, Supipara will never be complete.

>> No.15656940

>>15656913
While I don't foresee Supipara getting fully funded, if Minori is using only their own profit for it, they could very well use any money they get from the game in Japan towards the future episodes as well. That'd make things go a little faster.

>> No.15657558

>>15656663
wow those romanization must be getting heated

>> No.15657817

>>15656712
Personal reasons and going back to fan translation is probably equal to not liking what s/he's translating at MG since they only have kusoge.
You can also sell fan translations now so in the end its win win.

>> No.15657819

>>15654441
Which is why Rance never

>> No.15657841

>>15656663
I'd quit too if someone forced me to translate kuroinu. Its one of worst writing in fantasy nukige I've ever encountered, and its bloated as fuck.

>> No.15657942

>>15657841
Arunaru probably going to quit too then. Doing Kuroinu soon after Haruka is going to destroy him.

>> No.15657974

>>15657841
>Its one of worst writing in fantasy nukige I've ever encountered
euphoria by the same writers seems to be regarded quite well though.

>> No.15657991

It would be good if fan translations returned since fan translation = there is a chance to get any VN and localization companies = only new stuff that they can get the license for.

>> No.15657992

>>15657991
Fan translations are dead.

>> No.15657997

>>15657974
Izumi Banya's involvement in kuroinu was very limited, just few h-scenes.
And it feels like there were other people than Asou Ei working on main parts, although I didn't like Asou Ei part of Sakuuta either.

>> No.15657999

>>15657992
Good thing our lord and savior Cafecchi left mg to singlehandedly save fan translations.

>> No.15658000

>>15657999
>singlehandedly save fan translations.
Read: Apply for Sekai Project via a """fan translation"""

>> No.15658034

>>15658000
Why would anyone join a dead company ?

>> No.15658039

>>15658034
Ask Chuee.

>> No.15658047

>>15658034
All they have to do is announce Dovac has stepped down and people will flock back with new confidence. Not that Dovac stepping down actually changes much in reality (the core problems of SP are more than just Dovac), but people on reddit and such will fall for the PR move.

>> No.15658085

>>15647921
That's neat. Especially so if Koestl is working on it.
Or is he just excited for it? Should be neat either way though.

>> No.15658364

>>15658047
If the person who absolutely destroys Sekai's public image and pushes for censorship more than anyone else isn't the 'core' of it's problems, then who is?

>> No.15658375

>>15656663
Will MG still do fine without Cafe? Will Cafe ever return to them?

>> No.15658388

>>15658375
>Will MG still do fine without Cafe?
He wasn't core member or anything, just another average translator, and he was hanging out with SP dudes anyway.
His sudden leave will have effects on projects schedule, since his project was to be released soon and now someone else will have to pick it, but nothing going to change in the long run.

>> No.15658394

>>15658364
>and pushes for censorship more than anyone else
You're aware that one of the very co-founders of Sekai Project hates ero with a passion, no?
Sekai Project's problems are rooted deeply within the core of the company itself. The thing that made Dovac stand out the most was that he was the most public figure out of all of them. He hasn't been alone in his opinions or attitude.
Dovac leaving will probably not change a thing. If anything Sekai Project may see an increase in sales if they pin Dovac as a scapegoat for their poor image which would be a disingenuous but sadly a potentially effective strategy. Hopefully people don't fall for it.

>> No.15658440

This whole time I thought cafe was a girl. What VN is that icon from?

>> No.15658444

>>15658394
>You're aware that one of the very co-founders of Sekai Project hates ero with a passion, no?

Seriously, anybody know if this shit >>15647973 is true?

>> No.15658455

>>15658444
It was posted by one of jast officials that SD was censored by request of its translators.

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>>15658455
Wow, that's fucking shit. I actually have SD on my backlog. I'm going to see who the translator is.

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>>15658464
>Bancom
Everytime.

>>15658455
Shiny or School? I can only think about the Hotaru bathroom scene in School Days and even then, I remenber it with english subs.

>> No.15658494

>>15658482
School. I assume they're talking about that one since it was the early days of Sekai.

>> No.15658500

>>15658494
Never mind, the messed up one was Shiny not School. Oh well, then.

>> No.15658504

>>15658482
Shiny and the loli rape.

>> No.15658506

>>15658464
Shiny Days was translated by Sekai Project. In particular, by individual called "Kana".
>>15658482
We were talking about Shiny Days.

>> No.15658561

>>15658085

There's an ask.fm question from five months ago where he says he'll be looking to work on something for mangagamer later in the year, so I highly suspect one of the announcements'll be his.

The better question would be if it's sona nyl or not. It does match one of the remaining hints though.

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This year is shaping to be one of their best years

>> No.15658688

>>15657999
Cafe has some unique tastes in vns as evidenced by the projects he worked on before joining MG. And he liked translating nukige like euphoria.

>> No.15658701

>>15658440
蒼色輪廻
Learn to use tineye.

>> No.15658717
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15658717

Surely Steam memers will buy Supipara now

>> No.15658725

>>15658561
>if it's sona nyl
>once again wasting Koestl's time on Sakurai's gibberish which inevitably tanked since no one in the West like her autistic prose.
Fuck you MG. Literally worse than SP.

>> No.15658728

>>15658725
>her
Didn't this get debunked a while back?

>> No.15658734

>>15658728
Going on and on about nonsense and keep repeating yourself. You sure that's a man?

>> No.15658741

>>15658725
Sona nyl would be a hit just for the art.

>> No.15658743

>>15658741
Just like Gakthun amirite?

>> No.15658745

>>15658506
[citation needed]

>> No.15658746

>>15658743
I really should buy that from the summer sale.

>> No.15658747

>>15658725
It's not for certain Sona Nyl. The orange hint ended up being Naked Butlers, so the purple hint might not be as obvious as it seems either. But even if it is, between sales on their site and Steam it should still profit. Of course I'm wondering how many people were disappointed bt Gahkthun and won't buy another steam punk series vn.

>> No.15658751

>>15658743
Sona nyl art is way different from Gahkthun.

>> No.15658755

>>15658746
>buy garbage
Please no.

>> No.15658757

>>15658741
No VN is a hit just for the art.

>> No.15658758

>>15658455
It was said by Payne himself in a podcast interview.

>> No.15658761

>>15658745
Original post went puff after JAST re-done their forums, but plenty of full citations remain, https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/33ex2z/looks_like_shiny_days_is_coming_out/cql9vk5

>> No.15658762

>>15658751
I don't see how that would equal more sales.

>> No.15658766

>>15658725>>15658755
Go back to sosach, bydlo.

>> No.15658768

>>15658757
The Sakura garbage is.

>> No.15658772

>>15658768
No, that one's a hit because of meme status, just like Nekocrap

>> No.15658775

>>15658766
>only one person can hate Sakurai's games
Fuck off, retard.

>> No.15658781

>>15658772
Maybe the first one but the next ten or twenty isn't.

>> No.15658782

Why is MG no longer doing Lilith VNs ?

>> No.15658785

>>15658781
They have lots of fanservice and some have actual porn now.

>> No.15658789

>>15658782
Broken relationship or something like that.

>> No.15658791

>>15658782
My guess is that they didn't sell enough for Lilith to want to license more of them. That's just a guess though.

>> No.15658796

>>15658785
That's all due to the good art. People certainly aren't buying it for the incorrect grammar, misspellings, and nonstory.

>> No.15658805

>>15658782

That anime section was originally made with lillith stuff in mind, if I recall. When that fell through, maybe it took lilith with it.

>> No.15658817

>>15658805
>That anime section

Why haven't they gotten rid of that section?

>> No.15658818

>>15658761
"I'm one of the staff" != "I translated it"

>> No.15658823

>>15658725
>sakurai
>wasting koestl's time
>ignoring that he's gay for sakurai's writing

nigger please.

>> No.15658834

If gahkthun became golden lightning, what'll sona-nyl be? Violet Shadows?

>> No.15658847

>>15658817

Got me. I suggested once that since it's all in place, they should just convert it to a merchandise section and stick the stuff like wallscrolls in there.

Maybe they still hope to do something with it someday.

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>>15658817
Maybe they're waiting for a new contract, now with ClockUp's side.

>>15658818
Kana was the one who posted the updates in School Days back in the day. Also, in the School Days credists (pic related), he was in charge of scripting.

>> No.15658855

>>15658847
That's a good idea. They can stick the Drama CDs there too.

>> No.15658859

>>15658853
>UI Graphics
>dovac

He can draw? I'm surprised with those long nails.

>> No.15658939

>>15658388
What was his project?

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>>15658039
Remember that one time he said translators who get paid are better because the company wouldn't waste their money on shitty ones?

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>>15658947
And then he (or his friend) said that SP only hires the absolute best.

>> No.15658959

>>15658747
>purple hint might not be as obvious as it seems either
Haro said a while back that purple was for Maggot Baits

>> No.15658964

https://lv1translator.wordpress.com/2016/06/30/2-years-of-no-releases/

>> No.15658982

>>15658717
>5000 followers
Not enough

>> No.15658997

>>15658959

I'm pretty sure you dreamed that anonymous. I remember no such thing, and I pay fairly decent attention to these threads. Further, haro always namefags so I referenced the archive searching for posts with her name and there was no such thing.

>> No.15658999

>>15658964
>in another two years I should have enough money saved up to start buying licenses

Er, don't the cost like $300k and above?

>> No.15659001

>>15658964
literally who

>> No.15659003

>>15659001
Sup, newfag. He's a /jp/ translator.

>> No.15659015

>>15659003
one who hasn't done shit for two years, and now made a post just to say so? who gives a fuck?

>> No.15659021

>>15659015
Yes, why does one care that a translator from /jp/ is trying to get new VN licenses. One really wonders.

>> No.15659027

>>15658999

If I recall he posted here a few years ago that he had a pretty significant sum saved up. He seems pretty dedicated to his plans, though I wonder if it'll end up working out.

>> No.15659029

>>15659021
>implying that's possible for a single person, even for kusoge

>> No.15659037

>>15659029
Even if it's not possible, I still admire him for his VN dream.

>> No.15659039

>>15658997

Infact, I'm pretty sure you're confusing your memories for this post >>/jp/thread/S15488028#p15497988

>> No.15659046

>>15659029
Could also be some richfag/have a high paying job or trying to get some kind of business loan. So if you are dedicated enough it could be possible.
Not going to put someone down if they have ambitions, even if at first glance they may seem unrealistic for the average person.

>> No.15659050

>>15658999
300kUSD is something you'd pay for entire Baldr series.
Stuff he translated before would be on scale of 10-30k.

>> No.15659055

>>15659046
In fact JAST started when Peter Payne wanted to localize VNs for English market. J-list was actually his side-business.

>> No.15659059

>>15659050
I just remember voices by themselves costing $100k or something. Maybe nukige partners are easier. :^)

>> No.15659083

>>15658853
who is AstCd2?

>> No.15659090

>>15659059
If I wanted porn I'd watch porn.

>> No.15659092

>>15658047
Dovac could stay and be an idiot for all I care. The only thing that matters is uncensored adult versions and not censored all-ages. But I don't know if Sekai has learned that yet since they still think their Nekopara with illegal adult patch is a good selling all-ages title.

>> No.15659093

>>15658725
Sona nyl was popular with fujoshi in Japan. It might do well since BL and otome stuff has been doing well for them.

>> No.15659125

>>15659083

https://twitter.com/astcd2

He's been in the scene for a real long time, like back insani was still relavant.

>> No.15659132

>>15659125
is he the one that insisted on censoring?

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>> No.15659143

>>15659137
Can't wait to play Sengoku Official Version.

>> No.15659146

>>15659132

I dunno, I don't care about *days so I didn't pay attention back in the day.

Of course, by doing the same thing you could do, reading this conversation chain, I'd say it was kanna though. Which, ancient /jp/ history seems to agree with. >>/jp/thread/S13381858#p13382968

>> No.15659152

>>15659146
Beatriche posted with a smile. I don't know how to feel about this.

>> No.15659158

>>15659143
Can't wait for "There was not enough time at Sekai Panel to talk about Maitetsu and Baldr 18+" to happen.

>> No.15659162

>>15659158
I can't wait until they promise to talk about them at the next major con xD.

I can't wait for SP to announce more 2-10 hour shitfests, some censored adult VNs, or some OELVNs!

>> No.15659261

>>15658853
So once again you have no idea what you're talking about.

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>>15652667

>> No.15659384 [DELETED] 

>>15659377
Why does moogy pretend to know Japanese?

>> No.15659390 [DELETED] 

>>15659384
Like, dovac, it's attentionwhorism.

>> No.15659424 [DELETED] 

>>15659377
What a terrible world we would live in if we had to play bad games.

>> No.15659482

>>15658725
If you think that Corona Blossom, KaraKara or Sakura series are better...

>> No.15659544

>>15659482
Nah. They are also all shit.

>> No.15659665

>>15659137
Please be Evenicle. I don't give a fuck about Sengoku, i finished it years ago.

>> No.15659692

>>15659137
Oh boy, Escalayer!

>> No.15659696

>>15659143
More likely to be a yuri VN than an Alice Soft game, since yuri is one of MG's popular genres, and they didn't announce one in Anime Expo.

Then again, they did imply that they would announce multiple fantasy titles and they only announced Funbag Fantasy so far, so there's that.

>> No.15659718

>>15658725
Sona Nyl would be a good pickup quality wise, and would be a nice title to see it released in the West, especially if they got Koestl to translate again. That said though, it is hard to see any of Sakurai's Liarsoft titles doing particularly well in the West.

>> No.15659731

>>15659718
I guess I'll be one 1 out of 200 customers getting it then. I actually like the literary worlds even if the characters sometimes its gets lost in verbosity.

>> No.15659740

>>15659718
It wouldn't be the first passion project MG does.

I honestly don't see something like Kusarihime or Fairytale Requiem doing well either. Horror is too niche, unless it's guro.

>> No.15659750

>>15659718
What's so good about Sona Nyl ? The art seems great but i hardly care about that for a storyge.
Did you read it ? I thought these thread was for EOP so why do you guys know so much about Sona Nyl ? I can't tell if it's MG chill or not.

>> No.15659762

>>15659750
> ?
Don't do that.

>> No.15659764

>>15659750
Japanese translators like shitposting about bad translations. I'm going to learn Japanese and do this too.

>> No.15659782 [DELETED] 

>>15659377
he doesn't understand that those people are making fun of him?

>> No.15659801 [DELETED] 

>>15659782
Probably not. He has a very big ego and unlike him, I actually finished Fata Morgana so his opinion on VNs means horseshit to me. I just like making fun of his superiority complex.

>> No.15659817 [DELETED] 

>>15659801
Stop spamming your Fata Morgana bullshit.

>> No.15659818 [DELETED] 

>>15659817
More than one person likes it, dude.

>> No.15659824 [DELETED] 

>>15659818
No.

>> No.15659828 [DELETED] 

>>15659824
No, what? It sold more than 1 copy.

>> No.15659852

>>15659740
I wonder if Nutaku got the message that them doing a Railsoft title would work out poorly even though half their list of titles they could likely get through DMM were Railsoft titles. Aside from obvious quality issues, it seems quite doubtful that any portion of their audience would have any interest in them at all.

>> No.15659871

Haro, why doesn't MG have a OP movie of DC3 on the youtube channel? I was seeing you guys list and didn't find it.

>> No.15659890

>>15659852
Yea its not for their audience, Liar-soft and raiL-soft needs to be marketed to Europeans who know to appreciate fine art and culture.

>> No.15659901
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What's your wishlist for Otakon?
Top 3 : Even if it's impossible i really want to read White Album 2, Eustia and Evenicle.

>> No.15659913

>>15659901
https://vndb.org/v19233 and https://vndb.org/v4936

>> No.15659930

>>15659901

I don't see much point in having a wishlist when most of the likely slots are already accounted for.

I guess for that lolige-or-ntr title I hope it's one of the new partners and mangagamer's signed a deal with https://vndb.org/p3290

Their games are 2cute

>> No.15659934

>>15659913
>https://vndb.org/v19233
Why? Because you like dark nukige or because you are into guro?

>> No.15659937

>>15659913
>guroge
why

>> No.15659950

>>15659913
>https://vndb.org/v19233
>check the CG set on Ex
wew lad

>> No.15659989

>>15659740
>Horror is too niche
You're retard. West love horror. Kusarihime would easily sold twice as much as Gahkthun if not more. Description alone is ten times more appealing than Gahkthun's nonsense.

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>>15659817
Kamige

>> No.15660021

>>15659934
>>15659937
>>15659950
I like that kind of setting and I dont think that there are any VNs like it translated yet.

>> No.15660037

>>15660021
euphoria

>> No.15660061

>>15660037
I meant the part about getting tortured and killed then revived just to repeat. I haven't read euphoria yet but I dont think they have revive part.

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Did someone mention Fata Morgana?

>> No.15660071

>>15660066
Yes. Kamige.

>> No.15660077

>>15659901
I don't want any particulare title, but I would like some genres.

Straight Shota for example should be relatively easy to push. I mean the nudity is mainly adult women, and very few of them is on the theme of abusing the child anyway.

A cute dickgirl VN would also be nice. I saw MangaGamer had 2 pages of them, and they all were "bondage, rape, abuse". Can't be too hard to actually put dickgirls in a regular nukige.

Those full-animation nukige that are pretty sweet and not mellodramas like School Days.

>> No.15660082

>>15660077
>cute dickgirl VN
>cute
>dickgirl

>> No.15660086

>>15660061
Tsukihime

>> No.15660095

>>15660066
Fuck off already. At this point you You're doing disservice to the game by annoy people with constant shilling.

>> No.15660104

>>15660095
You're the only one complaining about shilling. And it's not even talked about that much.

>> No.15660106

>>15660095
>8 posts from multiple people in a 441 post thread spread across 3 days is "constant shilling"

I'm sorry we brought up a visual novel. Let's go back to circlejerking over how much we hate Dovac.

>> No.15660108

>>15660095
The game barely gets mentioned. Stop getting assmad for no reason.

>> No.15660109

>>15660095
Hi Dovac.

>> No.15660120
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15660120

>>15660095
>constant shilling
wut

>> No.15660123

>>15659950
>Multiple heavy gore scenes
>Literally cooked alive https://hitomi.la/reader/960709.html#135
>Literally pussy shoted https://hitomi.la/reader/960709.html#54
>Eletrocuted to death https://hitomi.la/reader/960709.html#38
>Stomach bursting https://hitomi.la/reader/960709.html#66
>Cut in half alive https://hitomi.la/reader/960709.html#75
>I don't even https://hitomi.la/reader/960709.html#191

Not sure if want

>> No.15660132

>>15660123
In Maggot Baits I think a girl's limbs get chopped off and then she gets made into a cow or something.

>> No.15660142

>>15659989
Fata Morgana and Kara no Shoujo never sold well. The latter eventually broke even, I assume, but it was never a runaway success.

I guess there's Higurashi and Umineko, but they have moe going for it.

>> No.15660149

>>15660077
>Straight Shota
oh my yes

>> No.15660152

>>15660132
There is far worse than the cow scene in Maggot Baits, it's not even fappable it's just awful.

>> No.15660154

>>15660142
>but they have moe going for it.
Not with that art.

Well, maybe Higurashi does with the updated art, but Umineko's art certainly doesn't.

Morgana probably costed fuck-all considering that it's a doujin title but a relatively small team. I'm sure it'll break even eventually.

>> No.15660158

>>15660123
Maybe you not, but thank god I donwloaded it yesterday. I'm going to have fun this weekend.

>> No.15660172

>>15660142
>Kara no Shoujo never sold well
First KnS is one of best selling MG's game ever. And second sold enough to get hard copy. What are you talking about?

>> No.15660183

>>15660172
>And second sold enough to get hard copy.
Pretty sure that's because a lot of people bought the game twice or even more. InnoGrey fans are hardcore and they really want KnS3 or at least Caucasus.

>> No.15660232

>>15660172
The First only sold well after a Kotaku article praised it. A similar article for its sequel didn't work nearly so well. And the sequel wasn't going to get a hardcopy because of how badly it sold, but when Doddler told people about this its sales picked up dramatically.

>> No.15660246

>>15660232
Ah, Doddler's tears. Truly the best PR.

>> No.15660306

>>15660123
This is some good stuff.

>> No.15661057

Since this thread is already autosaging, it doesn't really matter too much if it gets shit up with reddit shit now.

Frontwing's doing that AMA on reddit now. Looks like it's just a PR bitch so I wouldn't expect anything worthwhile.

>> No.15661060

We did it bros! Island kickstarter!!!!

>> No.15661071

>>15661057
>only answering soft questions

Sasuga Frontwing.

>> No.15661073

>>15661071

What'd you expect? He's a PR bitch, he probably doesn't even know the details of anything worthwhile.

>> No.15661081

>>15661060
I already expected that but is still sad to hear.

>> No.15661082

>>15661073
I mean they should know or not if they're get 18+ versions. But the PR guy probably wouldn't want to say.

I found this more interesting:

>*There're two categories of question we won't be able to address too deeply in this AMA: -Sharin no Kuni Kickstarter questions...

I wonder if it was Frontwing's shitty idea for the DLCs.

>> No.15661124

>>15661057
Crowdfunding a title no one has heard of, what a great idea

>> No.15661134

>>15661124
Island has an upcoming anime so that'll boost its popularity.

>> No.15661138

So this the title they want to release after Island?

https://vndb.org/v15080

>> No.15661150

>>15661138

Frontwing will be in reddit after 3hrs. Feel free to ask them

https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/4wzu5t/japanese_vn_developer_frontwing_here_ask_us/

>> No.15661157
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>>15661138
Spaghetti for spaghetti readers. I like it.

>> No.15661161

>>15661150

I'm pretty sure he's aware of that, given that's what he's referencing anonymous.

>> No.15661175
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>>15661138
>30 to 50 hours
Well, we'll see it in 2019.

>> No.15661190 [DELETED] 

https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/4wzu5t/japanese_vn_developer_frontwing_here_ask_us/d6bbwgo

So Frontwing really isn't delaying Grisaia.

>> No.15661195
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>>15661190
I was just about to comment on that. Who is lying here? dovac, per usual, blames the devs but here Front Wing is saying it's Sekai's.

>> No.15661207
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15661207

So all that begging actually worked.

>> No.15661212

>>15661207
Conjueror didn't build that cult of personality for nothing.

>> No.15661215

>>15661195
> i-i-its always jap dev's fault!11
With frequency he used this excuse, it was dead obvious that he was lying. This is company which was famous for huge nukige series, they have no issues with porn games.

>> No.15661221
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>>15661207
>skill as a translator
>translates Onii-chan to Sestu-poo

>> No.15661225

>We're definitely actively exploring other Western-based retailers for releasing digital versions of our games, but there's a surprising amount of negotiation and decision-making involved, so unfortunately we don't quite have any specific information yet. We want to make buying our games as painless as possible for our fans, so please bear with us a little longer! (I know that answer might sound kind of evasive, but there are specific meetings with specific companies in the schedule, fear not.)

Frontwing bringing their games to MG and Nutaku is high possibility.

>> No.15661228

>>15661207
I didn't want to read it anyway.

>> No.15661229

>>15661225
MangaGamer should seriously be in talks with them. I ain't using that Nutaku shit.

>> No.15661230

>>15661225
They have Himawari, so if sells, MG X FW can happen.

>> No.15661232

>>15661225
What does this PR fuccboi really know?

>> No.15661233

>>15661212

That's actually me. I don't really care about island(since it's all-ages), but since he begged so hard, I figured why not?

He likes to talk too much, so maybe if he gets a contract with frontwing he might say something interesting.

>> No.15661237

Don't forget that JAST can do it too.

>> No.15661246

>>15661237
If anything I'd expect them to go to JAST first. The PR guy said they're in talks with J-List as well so it shouldn't be difficult to get some of their products on JAST.
MG might be a good idea but I think JAST has a bit more renown as a general storefront, simply because J-List exists.

>> No.15661249
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>>15661225
>nutaku
please no

>> No.15661250

>>15661237
JAST needs to just handle the licenses they already have, they don't need anymore new licenses.

>> No.15661254

>>15661250

Presumably he's talking their titles being sold through jast.

>> No.15661261

>>15661250
Licenses have nothing to do with selling products on Jlist.

>> No.15661264

>>15661254
Yes, this. I'm not expecting JAST to translate FW titles. Dear god, they're on dinosaur time.

>> No.15661270

>>15661246

Yeah, it's possible they're aware of mangagamer since there's already himawari, but they don't seem to be too noticed in general. Someone had to shill their contact info to mikandi back then too.

>> No.15661272
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>> No.15661279

>>15661272

Wow, that's some drama I wouldn't expect a comment on, even if it's a complete non-answer.

>> No.15661287
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15661287

>>15661215
Somebody should tell them they got that rep from Sekai and specifically dovac.

>> No.15661289

>>15661287
Seems like they're just willing to cut whatever is necessary to get Steam releases, which doesn't come as a surprise from such a money-hungry company.

>> No.15661299
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15661299

I dont wanna believe that.

>> No.15661300

>>15661289
Fronwing hasn't cut anything yet. Closest is Purino Party, but even that had a huge disclaimer about the adult patch on the Steam page.

>> No.15661302

>>15661138
Why do they keep having two artists?

>> No.15661304
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15661304

>>15661299

I wonder if that Eastern Euro /jp/sie from before has decided to become a translator or not.

>> No.15661310

>>15661300
Well, no, but they're saying that they'll remove content if they think it won't affect the story. This is obviously just to get stuff on Steam.
I don't foresee them releasing anything as exclusively all-ages unless it was released like that in the first place (Island), since there's really no monetary loss for them to make a patch.

>> No.15661316
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15661316

I can smell all those Kickstaters.

>> No.15661319

>>15661207
Blick Winkel is begging for work in that thread too.

>> No.15661322
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15661322

This would be nice. I think in MangaGamer's catalogue only Fata Morgana had this option.

>> No.15661323

>>15661316

Too bad that well's gone near-dry. I wonder how long they'll stick around when they realize that.

>> No.15661324

>>15661319
>letting a guy who hate honorifics translate Japanese games

No thank you.

>> No.15661325

>>15661322

Higurashi and Umineko've got it too, if I recall.

>> No.15661335

>>15661287
Linked some herkz posts in reply.

>> No.15661336
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>> No.15661341

>>15661336
>p-pls hire me

>> No.15661344

>>15661336
Please no

>> No.15661346
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>> No.15661351

>>15661335

If you just made an account to post links, there's like a 90% chance you're flagged as a bot and need approval before your posts are viewable. You've probably lost out this time anonymous

>> No.15661356

>>15661336
I thought this guy started his own company or something? Must not have any work.

>> No.15661361

>>15661346
>crowdfunding every single volume
>every
>single
>volume
Holy shit

>> No.15661362
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>> No.15661366
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>> No.15661367

>>15661361

Did you seriously expect anything less? I'm pretty sure that was the goal from the start.

>> No.15661375

>>15661366

It costs actual money to have inhouse translators so you couldn't really expect them to have that many. That's two more employees than I expected anyway.

>> No.15661377

>>15661351
You are right, its not showing up when I log off.
If someone has good plebbit account, post link to https://vndb.org/t7991.79 in https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/4wzu5t/japanese_vn_developer_frontwing_here_ask_us/d6bcaa0

>> No.15661378

>>15661375
But are they good though?

>> No.15661380
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15661380

>>15661377
Wow.

>> No.15661385

>>15661380
Is Herkz the most consistently BTFO, run-out, unemployed member of the Western VN ""poo-munity""? He (?) needs to stick with his (?) shitty anime sub group, they're more on his level.

>> No.15661390
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15661390

This is really a good anwer for something like this.

>> No.15661393

>>15661390
> It's by no means out of the question for future releases to have uncensored versions published and sold by places like MangaGamer and Jast.

Cool.

>> No.15661396

>>15661336
Isn't this guy pretending to have a big project in the works? Why is he trying to take on something else?

>> No.15661398

>>15661385
Watch out. He might link to your post on twitter and then you're done for.

>> No.15661406

>>15661287
Wow Dovac. Wow. No wonder Frontwing ditched Sekai Project.

>> No.15661408

>>15661361
If people keep paying for them, they sure as hell ain't gonna stop making the crowdfunding campaigns.

>> No.15661409

Get a job at FW here, folks!

http://frontwing.jp/recruit.html

>> No.15661418

>>15661380
herkz is the biggest prick in the industry after Dovac, it's only natural that birds of a feather flock together.

But giving herkz the benefit of the doubt, it's very likely Dovac just made that shit up as an excuse and told the localisation team (who would have no interaction with frontwing) what was supposedly happening behind the scenes and they just took it at face value. Dovac's anti-porn agenda has been around long before Frontwing was on the scene, stemming right back to the School Days release.

>> No.15661425
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15661425

Does MangaGamer or Jast translators get to ask the Japanese companies for localization preferences?

>> No.15661427

>>15661409
I'm only N2, maybe next year.

>> No.15661430

>>15661377

It seems you're in luck anonymous. I myself posted it for you, but one of our reddit friends beat me to it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/4wzu5t/japanese_vn_developer_frontwing_here_ask_us/d6bcaa0

>> No.15661433

>>15661425
Probably depends on the project and the developer. Some devs may not care, some may want to be hands on, others may not be aware of changes but want involvement later (like what happened with Kyonyu Fantasy).
Considering that translation quality hasn't been a priority until recently, and Japanese companies are fine with machine TLs themselves, it doesn't seem like consultation is really needed a whole lot.

>> No.15661436
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15661436

At least, they know that Sharin is a dead cause.

>> No.15661439

>>15661436
>missteps on our part

So, do I get to blame them for the DLCs or not?

>> No.15661442

>>15661436
But what about the cold winter?

>> No.15661444

Will I ever be able to buy the official localization of Grisaia, without it giving money to Sekai Project, while still contributing to Frontwing?

>> No.15661446

>>15661444
You can buy it in Japanese. :^)

>> No.15661448

>>15661444
No.

If you really wanted to support Frontwing you could just pirate the English and buy the Japanese.

>> No.15661454

>>15661398
He can't do that. That's racism.

>> No.15661455

>>15661444
I buy every game Mangagamer releases, even the ones I'm not interested in like the porn or the BL, because I have too much money and nothing to do with it because I have no friends, family or girlfriend.

Even I don't give Sekai Project anything. Pirate everything they do that you're interested in. Pirate the ones you aren't interested in and seed them so people who do want to pirate them can. Fuck Dovac.

>> No.15661457
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>>15661430
Gotta love Dovac. Can't wait for his next endeavors in the scene!
Truly, there would be no localization without this man.

>> No.15661464

>>15661457
>/jp/ actually on there
>here comes the redditors.jpg

Should've said my friend, Jay.

>> No.15661466

>>15661464

My apologies

>> No.15661468

Sekai Project just getting blown the fuck out all over it seems. I guess it was bound to happen if they literally lied about their partners.
What were they thinking?

>> No.15661470

>>15661457
I love how things just keep happening one after another for dovac. Is sekai domino finally collapsing?

>> No.15661471

>>15661468
SP has no foresight. I don't think they've ever once considered what is in store in the future, they say and do whatever they need to for immediate profit.

>> No.15661478

>>15661468
They didn't think their partners would go rouge and start self publishing, leading to their lies being discovered.

>> No.15661479

>>15661468
They probably thought that in no way would a Japanese company spend money on an inhouse English translator or have English speaking PR team so Sekai lied without a thought. It was so easy since they did it before.

>> No.15661481

>>15661468
Blame it on the guy that doesn't speak English is a time honoured excuse work strategy.

>> No.15661482

Is herkz on suicide watch right now?

>> No.15661484

>>15661425

It really depends. Some developers simply aren't available for or interested in consulting on the translation, others will answer questions and give insight on certain terms/etc but ultimately think we should make the decisions because they don't speak English, and still others will make hard demands about certain names and terms, and so on.

>> No.15661485

>>15661482

I doubt it, he pretty much lives to be an asshole

>> No.15661504

Well, I'll give em one thing, they sure addressed a lot of questions that I would have expected to be ignored.

>> No.15661512
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>> No.15661515

>>15661504
Yes, I was surprised they answered my questions about SP and herkz.

>> No.15661796

>>15661468
I kinda wish Dovac wasn't gone now so we could see his response to this.

>> No.15661800

>>15661425
They should ask customers for localization preferences instead.

>> No.15661894

>>15661396
>Isn't this guy pretending to have a big project in the works?
GundamAce/John Hooper is the one with a project.

>> No.15661922
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>>15661800

They already did.

>> No.15661928

>>15661922
Not in that sense. Look at Haro's response and it should be clear what I mean.

>> No.15661933

>>15661922
Fuck everyone who is not voting for Bishoujo Mangekyou.

>> No.15661979
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Why is this stupid prude reading eroge and then complaining about the ero?

>> No.15661988
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15661988

Is Front Wing comparing themselves to companies 1/10th their size?

>> No.15661989

>>15661933
I bet a wstar license would cost and arm and a leg. Their titles sell like fucking hotcakes in Japan.

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>> No.15662017

>>15661989
It would sell the same here.

>> No.15662281

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-bell-chimes-for-gold-gay-rpg

Don't know why gay is in the title. The MC seems to be girl.

>> No.15662289

>>15662281
Girls can be gay too, you shitlrod.

>> No.15662333

>>15662281
Translation for that looks like it will be spectacular.

>> No.15662428

>>15661406
While I hate Sekai as much as the next person, I am under no illusion that Front Wing is the good guy. They had massive profits from the Grisaia kickstarter but instead of using that money for new VNs, they'll just create even more kickstarters for short VNs and low effort garbage games like Purino Party. I have no doubt the high goal of the Sharin kickstarter was Front Wing's bright idea.

>> No.15662459

The lesson that we have learned from Rance VI is that keeping rage going for a year gets you what you want

>> No.15662645

>>15660012
What game is this?

>> No.15662656

>>15662459
>Implying MG wouldn't even attempt to get Rance when they got a deal with AliceSoft which has years ago declined having their games localized.
You're deluding yourself if you think MG only got Rance because Rance fags were bitching about it.

>> No.15662668

>>15662459
You're still not going to get Yuuki.

>> No.15662671

>>15662668
We'll see about that.

>> No.15662680

>>15661304
Ultimately I decided to reach even further.

>> No.15662705

>>15662017
Not necessarily. Look at Lilith's titles. They're very popular in Japan, but they likely didn't sell enough in the west for Lilith to want to license out more of them.

>> No.15662709

>>15662705
This has nice art, though, and that's the thing people buy for.

>> No.15662713

>>15662709
People don't only buy vns for the art. And successful vns in Japan usually have unrealistic expectations of what sales in the western market should be. If MG gets any of their vns, it would most likely be much older ones.

>> No.15662796

>>15662705
>but they likely didn't sell enough in the west for Lilith to want to license out more of them.
Is that confirmed? I really want more Lilith games.
The production values may seem a little bit unbalanced a lot of the time, but not only are the games very sexy, but stories are true sex adventures. Everything in them revolves around the sex, and the story paths leads to the sex, but the adventure still makes them exciting even aside from the sex. Making them excited on multiple levels.

Of course the Lilith games are far from the only eroge where this rings true. But they're pretty good at it.

>> No.15662801

>>15662796
Not confirmed, just speculation. The Lilith titles were such a major announcement, then nothing from them for over a year and a half.

>> No.15662810

>>15662428
Not to mention, if there's anything to get from this PR guy, they are more than willing to publish stuff without crowdfunding, the only reason they're not doing it is because they can get easy money from idiots. They'll keep doing crowdfunding until it's not profitable, regardless of if they "need" the funds.

>> No.15662824

>>15662713
Japs are stupid for refusing localizations and for having unrealistic expectations. That is not how capitalism works for 1$ is better then 0$.

>> No.15662906
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15662906

I like how Front Wing made it sound like their multiple kickstarters for an episodic VN was for fan benefit. This guy is really good at PR.

>> No.15662914

>>15662906
>and that improving that negative was and is a huge priority for us
Well it's not wonder they cut their ties with Sekai Project then.

>> No.15662930

>>15662906
Yeah, he's great PR in general. If I wasn't so jaded I'd probably buy into a lot of his shit, which I'm sure the redditors are doing.

>> No.15662988

>>15662824
>That is not how capitalism works for 1$ is better then 0$.
That is not always the case, as there is also the side of that if it cheapens a license by cutting the cost then it could potentially hit them later on by reducing the price of all further licenses. This is why mostly only older stuff gets licensed as by that point it has reached the "end of life" of the product. Anything newish they risk diluting premium licences and also risk savvy Japs importing/downloading cheaper copies from abroad cutting in to their own revenue (especially with companies like FW looking in to dual language options).

>> No.15663007

>>15662906
>This guy is really good at PR.
Certainly better than going on twitter and saying how much their customer base sucks and is wrong or how they never wanted to get in to the business in the first place.

>> No.15663035

>>15662988
Dual language releases are overpriced. Super short vns like Karakara being $20 is ridiculous.

>> No.15663066

>>15663035
Steamfag, please.

>> No.15663097

>>15663066
I will not pay more than $10 for it.

>> No.15663101

>>15662680
What does that mean? You going to marry a Japanese woman and be Japanese like Peter Payne?

>> No.15663107

>>15663097
You should not pay even 1$ for evil SP's game

>> No.15663108

>>15663107
But what about my Steam cards and achievement that all vns are worthless without?

>> No.15663146

>>15663101
I decided to drop the middle step, English. That's the dream though, I have an actual logical plan for the future too. That's what allows me to have dreams too.

And no, I'll just work in Japan for a decade and then be Japanese. Or for 3 years, if I get enough points.

>> No.15663224

>>15662705
Their mistake in going entirely Lilith Black instead of Lilith Pink/White or whatever their moege brand is.

>> No.15663259

>>15663224
I think that the newer Black Lilith titles would've sold much better, but newer titles are much less likely to be licensed.

>> No.15663271

>>15663259
The Taimanin series could sell like hotcakes, even with the older ones. But yeah, MG fucked up for bringing Lilith and not Black Lilith

>> No.15663278

>>15663271
I'm sure it would've been difficult anyway. Lilith are kind of dicks from what I hear.

>> No.15663350

>We're well aware that there is a demand for fully uncensored releases, especially from a number of core VN fans. Releasing our games without mosaic censorship essentially requires that version of the game to be published by a company based outside of Japan, and doing so takes a non-trivial amount of time and resources.
>It's by no means out of the question for future releases to have uncensored versions published and sold by places like MangaGamer and Jast.
If I read his post correctly, the frontwing rep said they wouldn't be opposed to uncensored versions if they were released by a third party... then why didn't sekai do that for grisaia? I can't help but feel this is dovac letting us down again.

>> No.15663362

This inspires confidence in sekai's continued horrible translations Check out SekAi-iRo (@sekAi_no_iro): https://twitter.com/sekAi_no_iro

>> No.15663363

>>15663350
>then why didn't sekai do that for grisaia?
Because Sekai Project didn't want to. They want as much money out of it as they can, publishing as much as possible by themselves.

>> No.15663374

>>15663350
>I can't help but feel this is dovac letting us down again.
Not hard to blame him (though it probably is more than just him) when we were repeatedly told by him it was Frontwing who were the ones against 18+ releases in the west which made them responsible for the delays and we have had confirmation from them now they were fine with them.

>> No.15663380

>>15663374
Not only were they fine with it, they'd be ok with uncensored art too, something we never got.

>> No.15663383

>>15663380
Uncensored is overrated.

>> No.15663387

>>15663383
Depends on the artist, really. Euphoria's artist really knows how to draw vaginas, buttholes, and dicks. She puts considerable effort into thise things and it shows.

Thing is, a lot of artists do not. The Funbag uncensored version for instance is really silly looking.

>> No.15663393

>the absolute damage control herkz's doing right now on vndb
fucking kek

>> No.15663404

>>15663393
Link?

>>15663387
>Thing is, a lot of artists do not
Obviously, no point putting much effort into something that won't be seen.

>> No.15663406

>>15663393
Not even sure why he is bothering when he doesn't really have any reputation left to save.

>> No.15663415

>>15663404
https://vndb.org/t7991/4#99

>> No.15663420

>>15663415
That's just sad.

>> No.15663441
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15663441

>Their image is great, actually. The masses absolutely love games like Nekopara.
If they still want to fish for the Nekopara and Sakura audiences, then why haven't they tried to go after other games with meme appeal like GalGun or whatever, instead of chasing after titles like Baldr Sky that most certainly don't share an audience with the audience of Nekopara?

>> No.15663445

>>15663415
>>15663393
I would rather believe Frontwing over herkz even if it is a PR guy. What would Frontwing even gain by restricting 18+ content? Only thing I could think of is they wanted more money than Sekai was willing to offer at first, but that isn't the same as being against 18+ releases.

>> No.15663454

>>15663441
Pathetic. Herkz also said on Twitter that the Nekopara audience was the only ones that mattered and that their kickstarter backers were irrelevant.

>> No.15663475

>>15663454
>Herkz also said on Twitter that the Nekopara audience was the only ones that mattered and that their kickstarter backers were irrelevant
The real meaning of that is he only cares about the audience that is willing to make them money no matter what kind of shit they are buying. From a company standpoint that might seem fine, but it is still pretty disgusting to treat the rest of the customer base like shit. Especially on a social platform anyone can read.

>> No.15663497

>>15663441
Baldr Sky makes sense as a title to aim for a mainstream hit with a lot of press and a positive feedback from a successful kickstarter. If you want to try and repeat the success of Muv Luv, it is an appropriate title, and one of the few titles with such a potential. While it could still do that, especially if they fix the issues and some press picks it up, at the moment their announcement hasn't driven much excitement, and the press generally seems to be largely uninterested in it.

>> No.15663499

>>15663475
You know what, I don't care if Sekai jusy wants to sell meme garbage like Nekopara; that's fine. But then why the fuck do they insist on meddling in """hardcore""" titles like Baldr and Maitetsu? Those titles appeal specifically to the core visual novel fanbase, not the meme garbage fanbase which, by the way, won't purchase anything above 10 dollars.

They can't pretend that the core fanbase is irrelevant so long as they continue to meddle in titles relevant to them.

>> No.15663505

There's always the third option: Both Frontwing and Sekai are shit.

>> No.15663509

>>15663441
1. Tell hardcore fans that they are irrelevant and should go away
2. Try releasing stuff catering to said fans
3. Stuff flops
4. Cry on twitter that fans are fucking pirates and don't buy stuff from denpa
5. Rinse and repeat

Hmmm, I wonder why its not working out for Sekai, maybe not enough shouting at fans?

>> No.15663511

>>15663505
They are. But I personally am inclined to believe Frontwing on this seeing as they have yet to shy away from 18+ content on their standalone endeavors.

>> No.15663542 [DELETED] 

lol eops
hope your market crashes asap
along with shitty makers that pander to you

>> No.15663556

>>15663499
Grisaia and Clannad both did quite well, so it had made sense to look for more longer titles with similar sales potential. It's only very recently that other similar titles have shown lackluster sales, with Root Double's poor sales being particularly noticeable.

>> No.15663562

>>15663509
You forgot the part where they try to get another Nekopara tier success by betting on KARAKARA becoming a meme, then the audience (steam users) they have been buttering up as their moneymakers not giving a shit. Then moving on to 3.

>> No.15663592

>>15663556
>It's only very recently that other similar titles have shown lackluster sales
G Senjou tanked a year ago too

>> No.15663599

>>15663556
> Grisaia and Clannad both did quite well
That's because of anime adaptation.

>> No.15663603

>>15663441
Gal Gun is already localized. I ordered the limited edition. (Sadly the super limited edition with striped panties screen cleaner and a wallscroll was long sold out).

Uncensored, and with a rumored 90 dollar DLC that gives you x-ray vision. So I guess it is just a slap in the face to all the "We can't sell unless we censor" fags.

>> No.15663613

>>15663441
Probably because their Nekopara clones don't sell, either. Although Badlr does have gameplay many people love, I imagine the reason SP in particular is happy about that title is because they can try to spin it is a gameplay game with a very long story, rather than a VN with gameplay attached. That's sure to get some of that Steambux.

>> No.15663615

https://twitter.com/astrokuso/status/763159118358061060
Another translator abandoning sekai ship.

>> No.15663621

>>15663615
>Sekai translator

Isn't that a mark of shame?

>> No.15663624

>>15663615
Pretty sure that's the Clover Days organizer.

>> No.15663629

>>15663603
The DLC is already on the US PSN store. They can't release it in Europe because there are limitations to how much money they can extort from DLC in Europe, apparently.

>> No.15663633

>>15663615
Where is my Clover Day, you lazy faggot?

>> No.15663640

>>15663603
>Gal Gun is already localized.
They could have pursued it before it was. Either way, it doesn't seem like they're even pursuing titles like it.
There are plenty of games with real meme appeal but then again, they just may be too shit to manage getting their hands on such licences. That's probably it, but I still have my doubts on whether or not they even try.

Seriously though. What are they even doing in the eroge business if they dislike eroge so?

>> No.15663652

>>15663640
dovac never wanted to be in the VN business in the first place. He wanted to sell headphones and nail growth vitamins.

>> No.15663661

>>15663652
>sell headphones and nail growth vitamins.
what?

>> No.15663671

>>15663661
Not him but Dovac has disgustingly long nails

>> No.15663678
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15663678

Herkz is a douchebag, but he is right. We shouldn't take PR sweet talks as an absolute facts. It's not unreasonable that they had different stance against +18 in the past and now.

>> No.15663683

>>15663661
You don't remenber the first thing Sekai did as KS?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/2013-moe-headphones-design-by-lunatic-joker
Yeah, SP didn't wanted VN.

>> No.15663693

>>15663652
They should have stuck to that.
I honestly thought they were pretty cool when they were just selling headphones, as overpriced as it may have been.
Selling premium novelty items is certainly a market. But as things turns out, they just had to fuck things up by forcing their way into a market they were clearly not fit for.

>> No.15663711

>>15663678
>We shouldn't take PR sweet talks as an absolute facts.

I'm not though. I'm basing it on Sekai's frequent delays, frequent blame on the Japanese devs, and their overall stance that cutting content is acceptable. That's not to say I find the Japanese devs faultless as I'm sure some are difficult to work with. It wouldn't surprise me if Frontwing asked for more money for the "extra" ero content.

>> No.15663742 [DELETED] 

>>15663678

It's probably the truth given that he stated he only took the job a couple months ago. Though given the entire SP saga uptil this point, it's just so easy to believe.

>> No.15663799

herkz's probably the truth given that the frontwing guy stated he only took the job a couple months ago. Though given the entire SP saga uptil this point, it's just so easy to believe.

>> No.15663809

>>15663678>>15663742>>15663799
You suck at this.

>> No.15663844

>>15663809

Only
>>15663742
>>15663799 (You)
are mine, and if you check the archive they're the same post, just reworded to make more sense.

>> No.15663857

>>15663678
While it's possible that it was entirely on Frontwing, given SP's track record and their own shitty PR it isn't hard to believe that SP was either lying or deliberately misinforming people. If there is one company that will never admit when they are in the wrong, it's Sekai Project.

>> No.15663886

>>15663592
Sekai Project thoroughly murdered G Senjou.
No advertising whatsoever. That was a stealth release if I ever saw one. I am not even sure they put up the release on their twitter feed ahead of time.
Completely fucked up the visuals, forcing a widescreen aspect ratio. Cutting off the top and bottoms of all images.
Shoddily erased all erotic content and scenes, making it all ages without really replacing the lost scenes with anything.

They really ruined it.

>> No.15663953

>>15663886
But they got all the normal steam user purchases. Not like nekopara that just got meme-purchases. We are talking real customers, that Sekai worked hard to find among all the annoying ones.

>> No.15663963

>>15663886
Not using a font that makes me want to gouge my eyes out with it's not vertically aligned text would have helped too.

>> No.15664099

>>15663678
What does that image have to do with anything? Himawari is in beta and the release likely is in MangaGamer's hands at this point.

>> No.15664134

>>15664099

He's probably pointing out that he glossed over the fact that frontwing is doing the insertion, which was the main cause of the delay.

>> No.15664223

>>15663497
>Baldr Sky makes sense as a title to aim for a mainstream hit with a lot of press and a positive feedback from a successful kickstarter. If you want to try and repeat the success of Muv Luv, it is an appropriate title, and one of the few titles with such a potential

But Muv Luv got shit on

>> No.15664239

>>15663497
>Baldr Sky makes sense
I mean. It's no doubt a prolific title with lots of potential.
But if you're indeed chasing after the Nekopara audience, then no, it does not make sense.

>> No.15664255

Herkz's argument is shit because the vast majority of SP's catalogue are not titles targeting the "Nekopara audience." In fact the titles most blatantly attempting to do so (Karakara) wasn't particularly successful.

>> No.15664263

>>15663497
Releasing BS censored "doesn't make sense" and I doubt that the mainstream (Steamers) would accept it.

>> No.15664266

>>15664255
> vast majority of SP's catalogue are not titles targeting the "Nekopara audience."
Vast majority of SP's catalogue are dirt-chip OELVN trash targeting braindead weebs on Steam, the same people who buys Nekopara.

>> No.15664309

>>15664263
The idea of "We have a great game, and we will make it Steam/Twitch/Press friendly" would have made sense when negotiating for the license. In practice, the lack of excitement in the community, and the largely disinterested press makes it a hard sell, while catching on with streamers is a low chance gamble at best. Baldr Sky is a title largely unknown outside of the visual novel community, and it needs to be able to convince a larger market it is a good game they should care about, and having those who would be enthusiastic about the title not caring makes that much harder to do.

>> No.15664396

>>15662428
>>15662810
Getting easy money from whales is pretty much the business model for the entire top of the industry in Japan too.

I almost wonder if they'd be better off just making the games free so they can push more worthless bullshit. Nitroplus and Type Moon barely even bother making actual games to start with anymore.

>>15663497
Muv-Luv kickstarter was more of a highly visible and well marketed (marked up) merchandise storefront than anything. I doubt you're going to see the equivalent of people starving themselves to get old dakis and US stocked plamo for Baldr Sky. You can't raise that kind of retarded autism without already having an English release.

>> No.15664417

>>15664396
Why make titles anymore when you can make low effort mobage like GO and make a shit gazillion dollars

>> No.15664431

>>15664396
Yea, Nutaku wouldn't be swimming in money if they didn't have f2p games to cash in on whales.

Shame MangaGamer didn't go into that market years ago when I suggested it.

>> No.15664452
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15664452

>>15664417
Don't forget "our mobage tanked but we'll just sell all the art we made for it for more than a normal game instead"

>> No.15664824

>>15664417
the thing about winning the lottery is that few do

>> No.15665123

>>15658834
Domestic violet.

>> No.15665791

>>15664452
>our mobage tanked
Muv-Luv mobage is still in prereg gacha stage, and doing quite well.

>> No.15665820

Confirmed, 6 new announcement in Saturday
http://mangagamer.org/announcements/

>> No.15665869

>>15665820

Hm, I kind of expected it on Friday.

>> No.15665877
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15665877

>>15665820
Interesting. I hope it's not something disappointing like Supipara Ch. 2.

>> No.15665891

>>15665877
You know it will be.

>> No.15665902

>>15665791
The Muv-Luv app game is. The mobage brand mobage died after a year in February.

I could have been saved this explanation if you even bothered to read their names.

>> No.15665903

>>15665877
Lolis!
Most likely not.

>> No.15665918

>>15665877
It doesn't matter if is Supipara Ch. 2 I'm still gonna buy it when release.

>> No.15665921

>>15665903

I, too, am even more hyped to be disappointed after that lolige-or-ntr title hint than I was last year. What could it be? https://vndb.org/v5296 perhaps? Is this finally the year?

of course it isn't

>> No.15665987

>>15665820
This is exciting.

>> No.15666233

>>15665921
>>15665918
>>15665903
Nice surprise boxes.

>> No.15666295
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15666295

That feelio when everything on here is wrong.

>> No.15666313

>>15666295
Yuzu-soft certainly looks unlikely.

>> No.15666324

>>15666313
Surely Yuzusoft is regretting their partnership with Sekai, though. A god-damn year and still only 30% on Tenshin Ranman.

>> No.15666526

>>15666295
there's optimistic and then there's delusional

>> No.15666904

>>15666324
While Yuzusoft partnering up with MG through their connections with Chuablesoft would be great, the former hasn't been completely disappointed by SP yet and the latter really has no reason to recommend when their game isn't out yet.

>> No.15666988

>>15666324
I guess they don't give a shit with how much money they makes in Japan. Which is sad, fuck Dovac and SP.

>> No.15667434

>>15666295
I thought bottom-left was 11eyes for a moment, since I can't read for shit and I forgot what everyone in it looks like.
Man, we're never getting 11eyes.

>> No.15667455

>>15665869
Probably because Friday is the start of the con.

>> No.15667470

>>15665891
It will only be announced if MG pulled some shenanigans with the fundraiser numbers somehow. With how the vn performed launch weekend there's no way it reached $200,000 by now.

>> No.15667479

>>15667470
Wasn't it like 160000 already?

>> No.15667484

>>15667470
Steam takes 30% and MG's share isn't counted either. Only minori's share is. It only made around 5k launch weekend, so 35k more in such a short time frame isn't realistic.

>> No.15667521

>>15667479
It was 165k at the last update, I don't imagine it made 35k in a week considering the sales don't seem that stellar.

>> No.15667581

>>15667434
>we're never getting 11eyes.
Instead we got goddamned Tokyo Babel, what the hell.

>> No.15667682
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15667682

the future you chose

>> No.15667684

>>15667682
Except I chose 428.

>> No.15667709

>>15667682
fucking fujoshits

>> No.15667714

>>15667682
The Otome crowd is always scary powerful.

>> No.15667765

>>15667682
I'm not going to make a fucking twitter account.

>> No.15667790

>>15667714
Now we know that they want a mediocre hanakimi ripoff over a cool mystery/thriller

>> No.15667815

>>15667682
Bow to your /blog/ overlords

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15667850

>>15667714
There's also a possibility that dumb weebs didn't understand the "Otome" part.

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15668164

>>15667434
Doesn't hurt to dream, right? It's /jp/ tradition to get overly hyped for MG's Otakon announcements and then get utterly, utterly disappointed at the actual titles announced. Just have fun with it.

>> No.15668186
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15668186

>>15667434
Doesn't hurt to dream, right? It's /jp/ tradition to get overly hyped for MG's Otakon announcements and then get utterly, utterly disappointed at the actual titles announced. Just have fun with it. But it seriously would be great if we can get a kamige.

>> No.15668201

>>15668186
>if we can get a kamige
Never. Dovac steal all kamige and he would never release them.

>> No.15668203

>>15668186
>Evenincle
>Not the motherfucking Rance
5/6

>> No.15668207

>>15668201
>Dovac steal all kamige
all his has is baldr really

MG has released more interesting titles

>> No.15668254

>>15668203
I already shitposted that here: >>15666295

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15668354

>> No.15668405

>>15668354
>otome game won
Yes, thirsty for men's semen apparently.

>> No.15669020

>>15666295
>WA2
The delusion is strong but i want to believe. MG will save the industry, believe it anon fucking believe it.

>> No.15669070

How come nobody has gotten WA2 anyway? Too expensive? Devs have no interest in the west?

>> No.15669083

Looks like Doddler found some more untranslated Da Capo 3 scripts, so Kouryuu might not be done with it after all.

>> No.15669090

Kouryuu will never be free of DC3.

>> No.15669106

>>15669070
>Devs have no interest in the west?
They do. Leaf is a studio from the group Aquaplus which worked with NIS America on Tears to Tiara II.
I'm pretty sure that nobody want WA2 because it's too damn expensive and people will not buy it because it's not moe so who the fuck care?

>> No.15669107

>>15669070
They did work with Atlus so they aren't disinterested in the West. It seems unlikely though they would be willing to give their huge title to a company like MG when a much larger publisher would likely be interested.

>> No.15669118

>>15669020
Why are people clamoring for Mangagamer to do it? Doesn't it already have an active fan project?

>> No.15669128

>>15669118
Machine TL fan project. Did you read the samples ? It's a fucking cancer.

>> No.15669141

>>15669118
>Fan Tranlation
Like the three groups translating Mahoyo since god knows when?
Trusting them is stupid enough because they can drop it anytime and with any reason. Of course, there's always something like >>15669128 posted.

>> No.15669158

>>15669141
Mahoyo's case is a bit different, Commie project is a fake so i don't know why it's still on the list.
The guy from Beast's Lair who translated ch 1-5 is a lazy jew. He will never finish it unless someone pay him to do it.
And the third project is a one man project, also dead.

>> No.15669164
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15669164

>>15669090
He tried to be free once...

>> No.15669211

>Waiiiiiiit I think I might have found translated files.
>It turns out I'm actually just really bad at organization...
Doodler kawaii.

>> No.15669224

>>15669211
Doodler-chan is my waifu

>> No.15669329

>>15669141
All the good fan translators work for MG or are freelancers now anyway. Not sure why anyone would trust the TL quality of the average fan TL.
To think we live in a time where the official releases are actually higher quality and more requested than a fan project. What a change from even 5 years ago.

>> No.15669379

>>15669329
>official releases are actually higher quality
If you are going by SP standards this isn't always true. In a way you can sort of attribute them as a partial reason for the decline of fan translations, as they made people realise why bother when you can get paid to do the same shit?

>> No.15669390

>>15669020
> WA2
Once again, way people want this shitty melodrama?

>> No.15669409

>>15669390
They saw the anime and want the continuation.

>> No.15669422

>>15669409
But anime was dogshit garbage. MC is a faggot and the girls are insufferable cunts.

>> No.15669431

>>15669422
They were excited by things actually happening.

>> No.15669467

>>15669090
He's finished that tl last month, why he wouldn't be free?

>> No.15669523

>>15669390
Why do people like Key VNs? Some people enjoy melodrama.

>> No.15669585

>>15669379
Well, that's because SP hires incompetents and keeps them.

When MG hires incompetents (like the guys who translated Imopara1) and they end up doing poorly; they fire them.

Ironically I think SP picked up the Imopara1 translators.

>> No.15669721

>>15669211
Doji moe~

>> No.15669758
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15669758

Thread is going to be gone soon. Make your own predictions for the next thread.

>> No.15669766
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15669766

>>15669758
Oops, wrong one.

>> No.15669826
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15669826

MG is so poor. They don't even have a top banner. Just a wallscroll.

>> No.15669834

>>15669826
But they do have a white Van.

>> No.15669851

>>15669834
Lolige confirmed, I'm sorry for your loss NTRbros.

>> No.15669933

>>15669826

Those hanging signs can get kind of ludicrously expensive. It's not just the cost of the sign itself, but the labor to install it at each con (it has to be set up by the con center's union workers and if there aren't a lot of other booths also hanging signs you have to shell out for their min. hours all by yourself––that alone can be several grand). Plus there's also storage and shipping to consider. It doesn't provide nearly enough benefit given the cost.

>> No.15669950

>>15669933
Holy hell. Yeah, just save your money for licenses.

>> No.15670028

>>15669826
notice how the only people with banners are major publishers with hilarious amounts of money.

>> No.15670287

surprised we havent gone off page 10 yet

>> No.15670576

Well if anyone wants to make the Otakon thread early, it'll kill this thread.

>> No.15670579

>>15670576
Might as well.

>> No.15670793

Gentlemen, it has been an honor shitposting with you.

>> No.15670823

>>15670793
See you in the next thread.

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