/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>15634295
japs in 7447, how curious

>>15634367

Show them some tanoshii

>>15634398
We should Fat Man them again, 7447's our territory.

http://pl.sega-mj.com/official_view/page?news_id=2795

The 9th Saki Cup will be starting later today. Group A lasts from 8/5 ~ 8/13, Group B lasts from 8/14 ~ 8/21, and the final lasts from 8/22 ~ 8/28. 3% of your score from each qualifying group will carry over to the finals.

http://pl.sega-mj.com/official_view/page?news_id=2829
You can earn a Saki SP Chara or Nodoka SP Chara (with unique voices) this time. 20 Tonpussen games in Group A will get you Saki, while 20 3-Player games in Group B will get you Nodoka. Either way, you'll get the SP Chara item after scheduled maintenance on the 23rd.

http://pl.sega-mj.com/official_view/page?news_id=2828
Various seiyuus from the series will be playing (supposedly) during the event. If you manage to play against them, and exceed their placement, you'll get special backgrounds and borders of Saki characters. They will be delivered on the 23rd for Group A & B, and the 30th for the final. I wouldn't get my hopes up if you run into Kana Ueda. There's a reason she was chosen to voice a mahjong demon.

Finally, this hasn't been posted yet but I'll go ahead and assume they'll be doing another round of Saki SP Chara gachas. Since the Mukoubuchi gacha ends on the 9th, and there's also a maintenance that day, that would be my guess when.

>>15634398
I did

M-my tenpai

Also, what would you guys have done here?

>>15634851
7m pair drop is the only sane answer. 6s is the dora. If you're lucky you could get a 3-4-5 sanshoku too.

>>15634883
That's what I did, but it slowed me down. Or maybe I was just unlucky. Would have won with the 6m draw if I went and discard 4p and 5p instead. Turns out my outs, 3p and 6p, were limited in number, too. Oh, well.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016080503gm-0089-0000-42d14b03&tw=3&ts=5

What a nice way to start the day. Been on tilt for the last 6 games, it's nice to get something back.

>>15635886
>kamicha wanting delicious sex
>he gets raped

Justice is done here.

Okay, I'm a dumbass. Time to learn the score table.

>kamicha throws away this huge lead and ends up third

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016080511gm-0009-0000-186d1bde&tw=2

>>15637864
I'm pretty sure an event like that is what compels every online player to learn the table.

>>15638035
Learn the table?

>>15638077
Scoring table?

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016080513gm-0009-0000-5799225c&tw=0

>been having good luck and getting many firsts places over the last week.

>Play a few games tonight
>3rd or 4th in every one

Aaaaand we're back...

>>15638382
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016080518gm-0009-0000-7d3ef0aa&tw=3

>>15639029
>riichi nomi into dealer riichi
Come on man

>want to play nashi nashi
>Only active in ippan

Well, it can't be that bad

>Get hit for 2000 due to tsumo as east

Well, nothing I can't recover from

>Toimen becomes a megaslut for dealing into obvious open chinitsus and dropping ridiculously dangerous tiles

>Get 3rd due to that initial payout and toimen's obsession for dealing in

Ippan: never again

>>15640575
>get 3rd
>blame other players for being bad

TnK 40 is out. What a madman!

>>15640604
You can account for your own mistakes, but there's no accounting for some folks being ridiculously bad

>>15640872
>there's no accounting for some folks being ridiculously bad
Yes, there is. You have to take advantage of their poor play in order to earn points from them and win.

>>15641150
Alright champ, if you're done jacking off all over the thread, how about posting something that isn't a trite cliche

>>15640872
>I lost because my opponents are bad players

>>15641770
Yes, that's very possible in a game like mahjong. If you don't think so then you've not been playing very long.

>>15641791
Alright, it can happen, but if you hate playing in ippan because you keep losing then I'd wager your opponents aren't who you should be blaming.

>>15641860
Ippan is pretty much the only place you can reliably play nashi nashi

Tenhou drinking game:
- Take a shot every time someone in the L0 chat says カス, 死ね or ゴミ
- Take another shot if you look up their name and they mainly play sanma
- Take another shot if they're a joukyuu player or lower

>>15643455
>- Take another shot if they're a joukyuu player or lower
You trying to kill someone?

>>15643455
What do I win?

>>15644689
Looks like he's a joukyuu player, so you have to double up. He also plays sanma but not exclusively, so you got lucky this time.

>>15644711
I'm really feeling it now.

>>15644689
>>15644731
I cant read runes, someone explain

>>15644775
"Drop dead" ad infinitum.

>Want to learn how to play mahjong
>trying to memorize hands but have alll this confusing info on this infograph that doesn't explain to me what a kan is or if it needs to be concealed or not.
>constantly just spastically putting out tiles only trying to sequence them and nothing else.
>just keep frustrating myself during playing
What do I do?

>>15645589
Keep playing the flash version or Saikyo 3D. You'll learn. Or just use the wikipedia entry on Japanese mahjong scoring rules.

>>15638443
Sometimes the flow is on your side
Sometimes it isn't

I notice that if I just play one game for the day and stop after that, I tend to pull many firsts

>>15645589
That's a terrible chart. Where did you even find that?

>C-san demolishes me early on
>But I never give up
>Draw a good hand with decent points, still last
>Get C-san to deal into not one but two hands
>THIS IS MY REVENGE
>I deal into A-san's hand like a moron
>Us three are all real close now, slight lead for me
>B-san in the negatives
>Defense, draws, and shitty hands until I barely win

Am I good at mahjong now?

>>15645789
Can you link me a decent one?
I need to study over the hands.

Just a question, but how do I start playing tenhou if I want to get into mahjong?

I'm not too great with the language, so I'm not even sure where to start.

>>15646406

>>15646167
logical based GOODNESS

>>15646406

I don't really play mahjong all that much, but you all seem like you do.

Can some of you watch the replay of one of my games and tell me if I'm really bad or not? Because I think I'm just making a lot of stupid mistakes to just advance my hand.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016080707gm-0001-0000-07156149&tw=1

>>15646913

A game where I actually won would be this one if it might show my better points. I'm not entirely sure how to get better either.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016080708gm-0009-0000-7ddc87f2&tw=

>>15646913
You fucking suck. Stop keeping useless wind tiles. They weren't even for defense because you dealt a damn 5 and ippatsu'd in the first hand. I'm not gonna bother watching the rest.

>>15646913

A game where I actually won would be this one if it might show my better points. I'm not entirely sure how to get better either.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016080708gm-0009-0000-7ddc87f2&tw=3

>>15646938
Shut up faggot, he's doing the right thing by asking constructive criticism. That your shitty attitude to some other thread

>>15646942
Internal tiles are great for building hands. Keep them when you can. When you dumped the 5 sou, you picked up a 6 sou (if you have a 5 you will end up with a wait if you draw any of 34567). Read up on tile efficiency in the "further reading" from the OP pastebin.

Especially early, assume you are going for pin fu or tanyao unless you have an obvious reason not to (like a couple yakupai pairs, a bunch of one suit for hon/chin itsu, or lots of pairs to turn into a toitoi or chitoitsu).

>>15646942
>>15646976
Just in the first few turns of the first hand I think we found your problem. When you started with this, the obvious discards are pei and haku. You broke up a 13 pin for no apparent reason and then drew the 2 pin. You need to get some basic tile efficiency.

>>15646938
That's rather harsh Anon. You couldn't even offer constructive criticism on where to start as a beginner?

>>15646976
>>15646987

Thanks, I'll read up on that.

>>15646913
I took a quick look at your first round and I think the best thing for you would be to learn the basics of tile efficientcy and a couple of "go to" yakus. The op has a pastebin link with useful information, including daina Chiba's free eBook. Don't worry about score and rank as you're in the learning process.

Also, look up furiten and defense.

I wish I could teach you all this in person, bit always feel free to ask advice in here

>>15634851

You have to consider speed vs points.

Your hand is already decent enough. I would kept the 7m pair to call pon on either 7m or 6s for a quick tenpai.

>>15634851
Considering how far ahead you were and it's south 3, I'd have discarded the 45p for speed. There's nothing to gain from winning bigger.

>>15634851
The best choice is 4m. You only lose the 3m ukeire, you keep the 7m6s shanpon, and kamicha most likely wouldn't hang onto 36p if he drew them. It's also worth keeping the 45p ryanmen so shimocha doesn't get to call on the akadora, and 4p is your safest tile.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016080718gm-0089-0000-97397fd2&tw=2

Is there anything I can improve?

>>15648823
Everything, no offense. I won't do a round-by-round analysis (someone else will probably come along and do one), but these are my overall observations from a quick skim through.

Your tile efficiency needs a lot of work - you keep yakuhai longer than you should, you ignore tenpai, you break tenpai for no apparent reason, and it looks like you open your hand without much of a plan. In terms of defense, you defend when you shouldn't and don't defend when you should, or maybe you're trying to defend but I just can't tell. A lot of the time I had no idea what you were doing. My guess is that you were chasing yaku since it seemed like you had a boner for ittsuu and honitsu.

Some tips - if you don't know all the yaku, learn them, especially tanyao and pinfu. If your starting hand has isolated yakuhai but you don't need them, discard them early. Don't open up your hand unless you know what yaku you're going for. If the dealer declares riichi or someone has a dora pon, just betaori immediately, but if you're in dead last, be more aggressive.

>>15649009
What are the best ways to play currently?

Still Tenhou? 0 for randos, and 7447 for weebs?

What are the best ways to play currently?

Still Tenhou? 0 for randos, and 7447 for weebs?

>>15649046
Yeah.

Some games NoName is just there to kill everyone

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016080720gm-0009-0000-facbaaf0&tw=3

Time to get wasted.

>>15649403
>朝立ち哲也

heh

>>15649403
I'll see you in the ER.

>call open kan into two riichi, including dealer
>not even in tenpai
>ruin the game

>>15653654
>ippan
>expecting anything else

How should I respond to early riichi? My hand isn't usually far enough along to take the risk of continuing to build it but at the same time, I'm not going to get anywhere by just folding.

>>15654209
Normally I fold if it's a dealer riichi, otherwise I continue my hand if it's 3-shanten or less and has a good shape/value. Obviously you don't push for something like a riichi-nomi hand.

>>15654209
Just push hard against an early riichi, they are never thought through, don't be scared.

>>15654209
Same as any other riichi. If you can build your hand and you need to, do it, otherwise don't.

>>15654220
>>15654233
>>15654257
Thanks. I feel as if I've been panicking and folding a little too much when faced with them in that case.

>>15653730
I don't know terms. What is ippan?

>>15655929
Ippan is the default lobby in Tenhou and lets anyone play. In order to play in upper lobbies like joukyuu and tokujou you need to have a certain rank and rate or above.

Basically what he's saying is that ippan is scrubville.

>>15655946
Ah. I've learned this the hard way. I made it to Joukyuu and it's been a painful lesson.

>>15653654
He didn't give the other guy extra ura dora from his kan so it's all good.

>>15644731
>dat random Slav dropping parentheses

>>15655950

yeah I got to joukyuu recently, it feels like i'm playing against menacing high school lesbians

>3:0

If anyone had the time to review one of my games, I'd really appreciate it. I'm stuck in tokujou hell and everytime I think I became better I just get gangraped. Here is my latest defeat : http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016080923gm-0089-0000-32a6b9d0&tw=0
I try to apply what I read in Daina Chiba's book but I'm starting to feel powerless at this point.

>>15658553
>tokujou hell
breh tokujou is third lobby

>>15658626
>>15658553
Right, I meant joukyuu.

>>15658553
Considering C, that's not a very representative game. There's a few tile efficiency points but nothing major. I'm not much better than you (3dan ~1800R), but around this point everybody's tile efficiency is pretty much on point and what makes the difference is your defence and knowing when to push.

>>15634825
PON PALACE

>>15658553
Your tile efficiency could use some work but more importantly you're waaaaay too defensive. At 1d the point spread is such that you pretty much don't need to defend ever. Also don't be afraid of opening your hand when you have to.

>>15634295
new Tohai out, with the end of first Dojima match

Flashback with Kei ass on the line is next

>>15659497
>Flashback with Kei ass on the line is next

Finger or Foreskin?

>>15659613
where is this from? i just red haou and this didn't happen

>>15659613
Finger.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016081009gm-0009-0000-1adb9904&tw=3

RIP NoName

>>15659613
I didn't realize Dojima was a Jewish name.

>>15658553
>>15658664
>you're waaaaay too defensive.
This.

Early on. I was asking myself: "OK, when is this guy going to win a hand?"

Defense is nice and dandy. BUT, you still need to win a hand or two. Otherwise, you put yourself in a position, where a single fuck up (which happened) ends up spelling your doom.

Being a man is overrated.
But being a baiman isn't

Being a man is overrated.

but being a baiman isn't

>Kan gives you 4 dora
>Rinshan tsumo
>On the last draw
>You jump to first place
I love this game.

>>15662078
>Someone else kans, gets dora 4
>Rinshan tsumo
>On the last draw
>They jump to first place

I HATE THIS GAME

>>15662087
First place was in riichi with 1 dora.
Imagine their anger.

>>15662078
>someone else kans
>gives second place dora ankou
>in the last few draws
>securing their gyakuten over you

I HATE THIS GAME

I feel like I'm stuck
Should I try calling less?

>>15662615
Do you know what the rest of the stats mean? I don't know. Also when do people play in 7447?

>>15662634
http://arcturus.su/wiki/Tenhou.net_ranking#Individual_player_statistics
>when do people play in 7447
Usually when it's not early morning or night in murrica

>>15662615
Your last place rate is too high. Call less and defend more. There's no point winning a bunch of cheap hands if you're just going to deal into a big hand later.

>>15662644
I guess I'll see if I can be around those times, I like playing casually in 7447 more than in L0

>>15662659
It's not like at certain times of the day people spontaneously start playing. If you want to play, just post here and ask for people to join you. Then you wait and hope people are on.

>>15662693
It seems like this general is always dead though, days can go by with only a handful of posts.

>>15662715
Just because there aren't any posts doesn't mean people aren't watching the threads.

>>15662724
shy otakus

>>15662634
I tend to hop on pretty late, around midnight or so, for a game or two before falling asleep. Not that good of an idea especially now that my luck is back to being shit. Got 4th in both games I played last night after dealing into a couple dealer mangan and haneman hands.

>>15662715
I'm watching this thread constantly even though I recently found a full-time job. Occasionally I post a wwyd to spark some discussion.

>>15663407
Same here, always keeping an eye on this place

>>15662795
>>15663407
>>15663419
Another fellow eye-keeper here. Never give up on mahjong.

Digital or occult playstyle?

>>15664196
Mixed
In my last game I held onto a haku for no reason then ended up drawing two more
I also like richiing on hell waits, but of course that could can be explained by exploiting other players attempts at defense
When I don't have any kind of hunch I just play normal tile efficiency open tanyao mahjong.

>>15664196
I like to say digital but I get carried away and end up doing retarded shit.

>>15664378
>Shit, no safe tiles... But wait! All 4 sou3 are visible, this 1sou should be safe right? Probably speaking, what are the odds!
>get Double ron'd in tanki and shanpon waits
I'm constantly redefining bad decision making

>>15666417
If you have no safer tile that doesn't look like a bad decision.

>>15662715
I don't post here a lot but I check this thread everyday.

>haven't been winning much at mahjong lately

>>15666622
Ever since I made it to Joukyuu I just lose. It makes me question my understanding of reality.

The word of the day:

https://twitter.com/minotchi/status/763649299196411904

>>15666960
There was another clip with a tenhou, complete with fiery auras and special effects. I think it was just missing the dubstep.

>>15667017
TENHOU 360 NOSCOPE MLG PRO montage when?

>>15666650
The first month I was in joukyuu I think my games were like 80% 4th and 19% 3rd. Took me ages to win a game in there, but I've gotten slightly more used to it now. I say that even though my month so far is 0-1-2-2. I had a great month last month with a ton of firsts though so this is just my luck balancing itself out.

A pretty simple wwyd this time. In this case, I'm just wondering what I should do because at cases like this I hesitate a lot.

>>15667105
I'd cut 2s. It's safe against the riichi and that way furiten is impossible.

>>15667105
You're first, there's no reason to risk especially since you keep tenpai by discarding 2
Also that 1s in the beginning could've been discarded because he had 4s so 3-6s wait is very probable

>>15667119
>>15667225
Well I guess I did correctly, I was thinking that I'd defend regardless of keeping the tenpai or not. It ended with him getting an 8k tsumo on a 69s wait. Also, it ended up rather interestingly.

>>15667096
It's my second month and I'm probably in 4th more than that. It's tough.

>>15667105
a direct hit from 2nd place is literally the worst thing that can happen here. it kills your points and raises his

you're right, just defend

http://tenhou.net/0/?L7994 +1 russian lobby (vodka, putin, matryoashka, bears)

>>15669288
How many points for bear wrestling?

>>15645885
Not him but here http://www.japanesemahjong.net/mahjong-rules/yaku/

anyone wanna play a match?
http://tenhou.net/0/?7447

>>15670396
sure, i didn't want to sleep anyway

>S4 in last
>finally draw the tile that puts me in tenpai
I'm dealer so I need to either win or at least get the tenpai bonus to have a chance at getting out of last. Of course I wouldn't expect to be hit by a baiman out of nowhere when toimen was the one with the open chinitsu.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016081213gm-0089-0000-2ea95bfd&tw=3

How do i stop being a fuckboi at this game?
Is there a way to really learn wait reading?
I keep dealing into monster hands.

>>15670897
>Is there a way to really learn wait reading?
Discards.

>>15670897
Against open hands there are techniques to narrow down the wait but a closed hand is impossible to read. However, you can identify safe tiles by looking at the discards with concepts like genbutsu and suji.
If you want to git gud, start by reading Daina Chiba's book (http://riichi.dynaman.net).

>>15670897
>Is there a way to really learn wait reading?
If you have to ask, you shouldn't try. It's more important to learn how and when to defend than how to attack while defending.

Anon from this post (>>15658553), reporting !
I first wanted to dismiss the advice I was given as retarded ippan-level bullshit. After all, why would I want to defend less and get hit more ?
However, I was already getting raped so hard I thought I might as well give it a try and I had great results with a more aggressive playstyle so far. Thanks for the advice, mahjong thread !

Here is my latest game : http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016081220gm-0089-0000-99d26703&tw=3

Posting it because it is a "he went to hell and found magic sand" episode and those games are the best.

>>15670897
When calls are made and there are potential dangerous tiles, I try to avoid dealing tiles I've had for awhile.

After stupidly dealing into lots of large hands, I've noticed that it happened more on half-completed pairs that I kept from the beginning and dump later on in the game than freshly drawn tiles.

A trash tile you've kept might be the exact one they need, and keeping it can deny them victory.

>>15672159
>ippan level bullshit

You were bailing hands for no good reason. It's a good thing people bothered looking at your first replay. I found it hard to finish, personally.

>>15672877
Well, after arriving in joukyuu I ended up losing a crapton of games because I dealt in way too much so I developed an ultra defensive playstyle to fight that.
Seems like I needed anons' advice to realize that you have to win hands to win games.

https://camp-fire.jp/projects/view/9612/

Would you support this?

>>15672159
Learn to count

>>15674260
Yeah, I still do some really stupid shit... I like the "call a 1 so I lose the tanyao that was my only yaku" too.

>>15674052
If it had better art.

3:0

>want to do simple scoring drills for 1-4 han 20-40fu dealer/non dealer tsumo/ron
>can only find super complex examples like sanankou/kantsu wanting specific, not rounded, fu

>>15677818
Do you want a work sheet?

>>15677898
no, I've probably done enough 50-70 fu hands that it doesn't matter anymore. But how often do they actually turn up? I probably see one kan per game average in jou

>>15634412
Fuck, looks like I missed Saki
>20 3-player games
Just kill me

So, what happened to janryuumon? Is it pay-to-play? Is it rigged? Is it dead?

Finally dared to go on tenhou. Got my ass kicked, the time pressure made me do a lot of mistakes (more than I normally do against cpu).

First game was east only where I lost completely because of a stupid terminal wait.

Secon match I did a complete hanchan. Floated around the third place. My first ron was only an 8k but it was one set away from yakuman (all terminals) but I think I would've lost if I completely went for it, could have gone for a chanta at least though, messed that up.

Last game I get insanely lucky. Has 2 five bamoo, one is red and those are dora, another player kans and get the same dora. Riichis and the ura dora is another 4 bamboo.

I love this game.

>>15681333
keep going, it's always good to have new players.

>>15681333
Got a replay to that last game?

>>15681333
Make it too Joukyuu and realize how shit you are and then cry a lot.

This is the story of my Mahjong adventure. ;_;

>>15681394
How many games did you take to reach 1kyu?

>>15681478
I don't know. I currently have 153.

>>15681390

Sure, http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016081405gm-0009-0000-78f40f13&tw=1

South 3 and the last south round are the one with the almost yakuman respective many doras.

I've been reading about tile effiency and what I find really interesting is how you notice it in practise. A lot of hands I lot due to my opponents developing their hands faster (hence my tile effiency was bad). It is cool to notice the theory in action,.

>>15681580
fucking d-san going all out

>>15681580
A sanshoku doukou and almost sanbaiman in your first hanchan? Wow.

>>15681611
yeah :(, that double 12k tsumo hurt.

>>15681759

On tenhou that is, been playing on and off on various apps against cpu.

>>15679629
You can still get SOA.

>>15679805
It went pay to play, since you have to buy tickets. Problem is that NCSoft's rates for them are more expensive compared to its competitors, namely MJ-NET. So yes, it's pretty much dead at this point.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016081408gm-0009-0000-a332eb9b&tw=0

Stellar play as expected of a 3dan playing in ippan.

I was aiming to get out of ippan by 40 games, but I jobbed 3 games in a row.

>>15682391
I still hate myself for hovering around 1300r.

>>15682399
Well, my first account had around 1300R - 1400R, too.

Just use it to practice different styles, climb up to 4dan, then switch to another one since you should be able to climb up to 4dan again but now the new account will have better R since you have more experience under your belt.

>>15682391
>Ippatsu ron on East 1
>Disconnects

>>15682415
I can't make it past 1kyu. ;_;

>>15682420
Don't worry, he came back to give out another ippatsu ron on East 2 and busts out.

>>15682429
Don't worry about rankings for now, then. Just play.

>>15682471
It's a bit disheartening.

>>15682484
It's fun sometimes even when you lose.
When you can't win, sometimes the fun is in making other people lose.

>>15683243
I just want to get good.

>>15681394
I know that feel, I've been getting my shit kicked in so much ive resolved myself to never look at any of my stats until I can consistently win

>>15683657
I've been learning a lot more from live play than tenhou's bullshit.

Dont suppose you live in the socal area? There's a sweet jansou I've been playing at, if you're interested in learning.

>>15683765
Other side of the country.

>losing your 15k lead in S4 to iipatsu dealer tsumo mangan
>after being in dama tenpai for 8~ draws
I got to 1kyuu real quick now can't make it to dan

>>15683765
>that feel when third world country where even people at weeb events don't know anything about mahjong

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016081414gm-0089-0000-52128260&tw=3

I thought I had it, anons. I thought I had it.

>>15682205
What is SOA?

>>15634412
I just see this, never played here, can i still get Nodoka?

>>15684529
Sono Occult Arimasen.

One of Haramura Nodoka's favorite phrases to the point that it was made into an acronym.

In other words, you can still get Nodoka.

>>15684587
Can i play the event without gold?

>>15684900
You need to pay the badai to play in official events, be that with chips (the sane way) or gold (the I-had-leftover-gold-and-forgot-to-spend-it-before-queuing-up way).

Also, it seems they made a mistake in the event announcement.

http://pl.sega-mj.com/official_view/page?news_id=2864

I believe this means that if you have 20 or more plays in Tonpussen and/or 3-player total you get Nodoka. Not sure however, someone can feel free to clarify. I also played 21 games in group A because I wasn't sure if it meant 20 or more, or more than 20.

>>15684157
I share the same sentiment as you. The only relevant thing I saw from a fellow countryman was a blog about a guy being proud he reached 8kyu. I have mahjong tiles sitting above my bed and no other people to play it with.

>>15685226
>there's a very active community of Chinese mahjong in my country, club in every major city
>not a single riichi club anywhere

>>15685255
Find other local riichi players and create your own community with your own local tables and meetings.

>>15685430
How do you even find other local players?

>>15685577
>not using the Internet

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016081123gm-0089-0000-b604ee51&tw=1

>this fucking game

>>15685640
googling riichi mahjong and my country provides zero relevant results, it's either the chinese game or buying sets

>>15685660
The cleanest second place I've ever seen.

Anyone else having problems with regretting each discard?

>>15685998
Usually when pairs I could have used start showing up in my discard pool.

>>15685255
There's even a Chinese mahjong class in my uni, but no riichi players so far. Are you perhaps SE Asian?

Also,
>tfw someone riichis early with an odd wait and you read his wait perfectly

>>15686126
Nah, there are just a lot of SE asian immigrants here.

>>15685255
similar situation

>that feel when you get a decisive win in a game where you are the lowest ranked player

new tohai

>this page

>>15687321
They sure as hell looked less bara on the live action.

>>15684934
How do i get chips then? I just started...

>Nothing but 3 shanten or worse hands full of penchans and a pond that's half way towards nagashi mangan.
Fuck this kusoge.

>>15686207
Thought I finally found someone from my country, oh well, the wait goes on I guess.

>>15687850
Play the free games and try to get an average score of at least +50 in the timespan of 8 tonpuusen, you can do this twice per month and I believe it nets you a total of around 200 chips for every 8 tonpuusen you get a +50 average in.

>>15684934
>i used all my Free money and tickets and still had only 17 matches on it

I fucking hate SMJ

>>15689875
It's pretty poor as a F2P client, especially if you're unable to get first place very often. I have a decent stack of chips so I just play in events and usually make back what I spent from placement bonuses.

Real talk

Mahjong is fun

>>15690085
Real talk

After all the pain and suffering... There's no feeling like getting dat 1st place.

So, how many of you were playing mahjong at Otakon?

>>15692020
>living in a country where people actually play

>2:0

>>15689807
Pretty sure it's sum, not average

>3:0

>>15692676
It's been 3:0 for like an hour now

>0-3-4-5
This is worse than last month, at least then I got the occasional first.

>>15696384
>tfw 1-0-0-0
i'm scared of ruining it

>>15645589
Kan is 4x of the same tile. In order to use them as a concealed group you need to kan and set them aside (you'll have a button popup in most games). Hands that require concealed or open triplets (pon) can also be made with kan, though sometimes this gives you yakuman.

>4th turn ryanmen wait riichi
>deal into closed hell wait iipatsu for baiman 2/3 turns before the end
Fuck this shit

Anyone up for a game? I'm scared I'll end up getting too close to getting demoted if I play in L0.

What's with people hanging around for one hanchan at a time? Surely you don't have anything better to do.

>>15701933
I have plenty to do! Like going to get my ass kicked in L0. Two 4ths away from being demoted now, whoo.

>have not played in nearly a week
>Can't play, afraid to lose
>Will only get worse

>>15705091
Come to 7447. That will give your ego a boost.

>>15705175
I ain't him, but failing to secure first place at 7447 only makes me feel worse.

> hanchan lasted only til east 2
> first hand i dealt into dealer haneman
> last hand i got a dealer haneman, with three indicators flipped but no ura-dora
> if there was even one I would've gotten baiman and secured first instead of second

A wild ride that was.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016081812gm-0041-0000-e73b4ffd&tw=3
NoName needs nerfing.

>>15707275
I hate NoNames. They all seem to either be a high dan in disguise or quit immediately when the round starts.

>>15707275
>>15707361
how do you play as a NoName? no that i want to do it, but i'm curious why people play like that

>>15707632
Just enter NoName into the ID field

3.4

where can i get shin janki?

1:0

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016081902gm-0089-0000-43184278&tw=0

It was fun while it lasted.

>>15710659
Better to be a 3d with >1800R than be stuck as a 4d with <1800R

>>15710659
I feel you, I lost 100R in just 2 weeks

>>15709849
>4-dan in joukyuu

lol

>sashikomi into a first place win

I-I meant to do that....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-FkkUc5qaM

>this domination

>>15713113
Sasaki Hisato is pretty good at mahjong.

>>15692396
Yeah, it's sum, my mistake.

>>15713113
It bothers me how common it is to just have your hand being a huge mess in most cases of not online mahjong. Is it just a pain to make everything look nice or some manners thing?

>>15712047
Post your stats, big girl.

>2:0

I finally have time to resume grinding. Time to get out of 4 Dan.

>>>/a/145926857

>>15712047
What? There are plenty of 4-dan joukyuus. Although, many of them are suffering a special kind of hell.

>>15715595
My body is ready

Hey guys, 3 moar spots open at the LAPOM mahjong dojo! They just got another autotable.

https://www.meetup.com/Pacific-Mahjong-League-SoCal/events/233316717/

Kai's a scrub

>>15714130
Anything to keep your opponents from guessing how your hand is set up.

>>15716986
He's just rusing people to play him again for bigger stakes

2.0

1:0

>>15634295
Is it bad that I'm now imagining being double ronned by a Daisuushi and a thirteen wait Kokushi

Do I keep chips if I get 1st on sega mj? In official and tournament modes, I mean

>>15723510
You keep any badai, whether they be chips or play tickets, yes.

Anyone played this one? I was browsing for porn and it tempted me to give it a try.

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1687837

someone pls join us in L7447

>Dominating the whole round.
>Avoid dealing into hands and everyone deals into mine
>over 50k points.
>Deal into a fucking sanbaiman on the very last draw
>Second place
Kill me.

>try open riichi while playing live
>Get baiman tsumo

Dojima would have been proud...

>>15727058
Open riichi only works if someone else riichis or they purposely deal in right? Only other scenario I can think of would be a hand with a ton of waits that might be hard to tell at a glance.

>>15727344
It works if you're confident you'll tsumo, you basically trade the ability to Ron for an extra han.

dang that IRL meetup was rad

2.0

>>15727991
3.0

>>15728077
forever 3.0

>fuck your tenpai

Reached 30% last place today. Joukyuu is only suffering.

>>15728896
>0.1 bankruptcy
What the fuck man

>>15728896

>>15728896

>>15728937
>Hand win rate: 0.184
>Deal in rate: 0.194

3.0

Anyone know what the hell I did? I have no clue what I did apart from end the hand, which I have no clue why it showed up.

>>15731045
If you have 9 or more unique (pairs count as 1) terminals or honors in your starting hand plus first draw, you can abort the hand. Unless you get an honor pair or 10 or more for kokushi, it's normally best to do it.

>>15731045
Missed a decent shot at a yakuman.

>>15731165
>decent shot
I can't remember where I read the stats but going for kokushi with 9 in the starting hand is less than 5% chance.

>>15731171
I find it that the hardest tiles to get for a kokushi are the honors since they are the ones that are discarded quickly at the beginning. He only needed the pei to have all honors.
The 9s is dora but he already has one, so that's not an issue. So all that's left after that are the 1-9m and the 9p, as well as a pair of any, which should be easy to get. Really, getting the pei was probably the only hurdle.

I want to check, though. >>15731045 Got a link to the replay?

>>15731182
When talking about "easy to get", you're still only talking relatively, the uke ire for kokushi is garbage. Starting 9 Kokushi is a really bad 4-shanten and needs massive luck to win before anyone else.

2:0

>>15726317

Why is it the better you do the more scary it is to play? I'm almost too nervous to play more now I've fixed my R.

>>15733015
Because you have more to lose. Consider Akagi (Urabe arc). Y'know the wuss boy. He was doing fine in place of Akagi, until he found out the real wager. Then he got nervous and started playing like shit.

>>15731210
Then there's odd shit like this:

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015093013gm-0009-9001-733f5521&tw=3

how do i into buyinged a automatttic table in america??

>>15733107
Not possible.

>>15733107
alibaba have some of those

>>15733070
I never wanna see that occult shit in my games.

>2:0

>>15733122
Of course, it's possible. When there's a will, there's a way. And no, not those cheap Chinese autotables.

2.0

>>15733122
I play on them every month, so it's very possible

2:0

>>15733244
>>15734616
Hm, not the first guy, but now I'm interested. Do either of you have any advice on acquiring em?

I did some quick research, and it looks like the choices are cheap Chinese autotables (1-1.4k) or spending fucktons to import a table (4-5k+). Any advice?

>>15735419
I don't own them myself, so let me ask next time I'm at the jansou

>Daisangen tenpai with a concealed ankou of the chun and a ryanmen wait on 1-4pin
>Someone else calls riichi and gets a tsumo on his first draw

>>15735419
Talk to Pacific Mahjong League. Apparently, they're really good at getting auto tables.

>>15735581
I've actually been talking with a few people who know them, apparently they just bought expensive tables off the internet like everyone else. (Apparently 7k each on the AMOS REXXs. Shit.)

2.0

>>15735689
>1:0

>>15735707
3:0

>>15735588
Get used ones. Much less crazy

What's the secret technique to not end second all the time on 0000?

>>15736276
be just happy you don't end up 4th

>>15736276
If gyakuten'd all the time, don't go full defensive when you're in the lead. If you're close to tenpai with a good wait you should still be pushing. Riichi is first is looked down on, but if the other players are very close on points, they'll still often bail to avoid last.

If you can't gyakuten, just be more aggressive early. East is the time to push hard. There's a variety of reason why you might not often be in first without looking at your games.

>>15733070
The absolute madman
I wish I was bold enough to do that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgQuX7sDnHA

fukumoto is pretty damn good

Every single time I become third dan, I always get 4th fucking place non-stop. It's just fucking bullshit.

It's probably not a mahjong question so much as a japanese language question, but what's with dual names for numbers, like ni or ryan. Is it like a possessive, like "the number Two" or "Two of something"?

>>15737742
Japanese has specific words to count certain objects, in English we refer to these as "counters."

There's counter categories for a lot of shit (long & round objects, small animals, heavy machinery and much more, it's rather tedious to learn them all), and Mahjong tiles have their own specific counters which goes from 1-9 as follows

Ii, Ryan, San, Suu, Uu, Rou (less commonly Ryuu), Chii, Paa, Chuu (sometimes Kyuu).

People would probably understand what you're saying if you're a foreigner and said "Ni-sou" or whatever (especially if the conversation is in the context of Mahjong), but it's generally better to use the counter if you know it.

>>15738002
Ah, thanks. That's quite interesting.

>>15737020

>>15738401
>>15738406
she is cute. CUTE

>>15738002
>>15737742
What

No.
I don't know what the reason for not using Japanese words is, but ii, ryan etc are Chinese numbers (very close to the actual pronunciations in Chinese as well unlike most onyomi). They're not counters, 2 Man is written 二萬.

>>15738002
That's not how counters work. Counters are only suffixes that you put after the number to specify what kind of thing you are couting. The numbers before them stay the same (modulo some slight pronunciation changes sometimes).

Unless you're dealing with the generic counter つ which fucks everything up for some reason.

>>15738502
That's more what I had in mind. It's a Chinese game so it uses Chinese numbers, something like that.

>>15738502
>>15738560
Fuck, I'm retarded. They're definitely not counters, I don't know why but I guess somewhere in my learning of them I lumped them in with counters even though they make no sense in the context of the actual system in place.

Thanks for correcting me, that was a huge oversight on my part, and many apologies for the inaccurate explanation I made.

>>15738871
No worries

3.0

>>15736519
My lowest is from 7-starting, only because it was S4 and I was 4th. Out of despair, I said fuck it; and managed to pull kokushi out of my ass.

Getting filthy damaten hands like this is the best feeling.

>>15744041
Yea, it sure is. It's like saying "fuck you" to the poor guy who dealt in.

>3:0