/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Okay.

I want to bully Bernkastel and make her cry.
I bet she cries like a small kitty trying to call its mommy, a high-pitched "Miii".

>>15634774
Don't be like that. Be nice. Imagine if I squeeze your balls, that would be funny? Probably yes, but that's not the point!

TWO KANONS!?

>>15634804
I still want to spank little Bernkastel until her facade drops and nothing you can do or say will stop me.

Would you be interested in staying at a moon hotel? Asking for a friend.

>>15634820
God dammit, Stanley!

>>15634827
You can't control the lust of a man who's almost 80 and still a virgin.

>>15634822
Krauss pls
>>15634848
Grandpa?

>>15634827
>Stanley
Who?

>>15634859
You think Kinzo doesn't want to rub his dick against Bernkastel's freshly spanked ass.

>>15634865
It's a Stanley Parable joke.

>>15634822
Humm, that sounds like a smart idea. I'd love to help you out, but first I need to raise enough money for my daughters operation, I hate to drop this on you, but could you please chip in some money? I promise I'll help you out with that idea once she's out of the hospital

>>15634811
GEE YASU

HOW COME BEATRICE LETS YOU HAVE THREE LOVERS?

>>15634866
I have to go. Bye Stanley!
>joke
Implying you're not the real Stanley. You know, fat and ugly and really really stupid.

>>15634889
So wrong. I'm skinny, cleanly shaved, and I'm not that dumb.

>>15634882
4
Don't forget Lion is tapping Will's ass everyday.

>>15634908
I want to fuck Lion

>>15634939
I want to spank Bernkastel.

can someone explain this?

beato

>>15635536
What isn't clear?

Meta-Beato isn't just piece Yasu, she's the "mystery".

That's why she said "I will kill you" when she kills him with the bomb and when Battler denies her with stupid theory at the end of 4, she goes into a coma.

(Since real-world Yasu is kill also)

erik

DLANOR

>>15634774
>>15634820
>>15634866
>>15634954
Look, I'm all for being perverted, but for a while now you've just been saying "I want to spank Bern" over and over. What's the point of repeating yourself like that? If you're going to act perverted, then at least try to do it productively.

>>15635722
i dont really understand what it means by she was born by the rules or what exactly these rules are.

>>15634611
Rudolf is a pervert so I wouldn't be surprised if Kyrie was the one giving him the D and not the other way around....

>>15635722
i thought she said i will kill you because anything unexplainable by humans is blamed on beatrice on rokkenjima.

>>15635735
This was explained to you like 3 threads ago. Battler couldn't revive Beatrice because she was the result of Yasu's trauma, therefore all that came from it was innocent human Beatrice and the older sister Beatrice as the personification of witch lore. The "rules" of the game is the background of Beatrice's reality.

>>15635743
Yeah, that's what I said.

>>15635735
>trying to understand Umineko
What is wrong with you? Are you a masochist?

>>15635724
>>15635730


NO YOU WILL BE KILL BY WITCHES

Stupid dumb janitor, you ended up deleting a few post on the last thread that weren't mine, not only that but you didn't delete all of mine. That's rude.

what are lambdadelta's voice lines when she's getting rekt in ougon musou kyouku?

it's so cute (>///<)

>>15635788
no thing lik wich

So after thinking through everything again, I came to the conclusion that the murders were committed by the 18th person on the island. And it was pic related. He is the murderer. As a friend of the Ushiromiya family he was invited there on that fateful day....and he made them cry.

>>15635816

!

>>15635764
>bernie
He is incompetent, but at least he's not a jester like Trump. Poor poor America.

>>15635825

>>15635829
How long before someone shops that into a Trump hat

>>15635734
I'd write a long, detailled post about how I want to spank Bern but I'm afraid it would be considered porn by the janitor.

Is it actually possible for the Rokkenjima Massacre to unfold without Kyrie and Rudolf killing almost everyone? There would have to be a really bullshit excuse for Battler not to be found and killed, moreover Eva would have to fell empathy for Ange and not kill anyone but her sibilings

What the fuck is wrong with this guy?

>>15635895
Anything is possible.

>>15635880
He's... evil?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loheHNliFw0

Also Kyrie and Rudolf are the most qualified to use shotguns

In the end you can only twist the dialogue to make Kyrie not say that she doesn't give a shit about Ange if Bernkastel's claim that "This is all truth, of some sort" was true

>>15635926
for >>15635918 My bad.

>>15635735
someone explain without trolling me :(

>>15635927
In the manga she says "This is all truth!", so I would assume that means it's all true

>>15635926
Wrong post, mate. Through I AM evil.

>>15635937
>without trolling
I'm afraid I can't do that.
>:(
Don't use emoticons you stupid monkey! That's forbidden D:<

>>15635957
I know Stanley, I know.

>>15635926
B-but why? His mommy didn't love him???

Would you hitch a witch and which witch would you hitch?

>>15635994
I'd hitch all witches which hit kids.

>>15635994
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'd ditch the rich bitch with the stitched up niche and hitch with the kitsch witch with which I could actually itch my switch.

>>15635735
It's just the rules of the mystery anon. Think of it like in Higurashi, there were rules X, Y, and Z, if I remember correctly, that were recurring constants throughout each of the arcs. Those "rules" had to be put in place in order for the mystery to work.

What Beatrice is in Umineko is the personification of those rules. What was going on in episode 6 was that Battler had already solved the mystery, but he had done so too late, Beatrice had already died. The only Beatrice that was left was the one that he could create from memory, and the ultimate plot of Episode 6 is Battler showing that he understands the 'rules' of Umineko by reconstructing Beatrice. Remember that Battler is the game master of episode 6.

That was my interpretation.

>>15636115
Lambda a cute.

>>15635880
I think spamming the same messages over and over would be considered just as bad. and if you're not even willing to take that much of a risk then you don't deserve Bern's butt

>>15635880
Poor Stanley. I guess it's my fault, I'm sorry.

I'm tired of playing the villain for today. Bye janni, do what you must do.

>>15635735
>what exactly these rules are

>>15636189
>Please, Somebody stop me!

>>15636115
*tips fedora*
Okay, you win. Nice job.

>>15636149
Just as I feared. There's no point in writing a long fanfic about me spanking Bernkastel if it'll be erased.

You have ten seconds to explain why Umineko is worth my time

>>15636266
OST + fight scenes are fun as fuck

>>15636266
It has a shitload of closed rooms murders and the characters are somehow likeable.

>>15636270
>>15636266
Here's one of my favorite examples of a fun as fuck fight.

Don't spoil yourself if you don't want to, but man this was so fucking hype you have no idea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF60yOU0h48

>>15636266
Characters

Soundtrack

You'll have fun even if you don't like the solution

>>15636317
But can an African sparrow carry a coconut all the way to Britain?

>>15635788
BUT WHEN WHO WAS WITCH?

>>15636335
It was phone.

>>15636115
Excellent taste.

>>15636261
Okay, why?

>>15636149

>>15636396
Don't ask, just accept it and let it pass. It's my fault. He probably thinks that you are someone else.

>>15636205
Made me giggle

>>15636317
Knees weak, arms spaghetti

>>15636317
If the same goes for other birds, why can't she say that in red!?

>>15636702
Deosn't say it ≠ can't say it. You shouldn't need an absolute guarantee of truth to believe that birds really can't cook spaghetti.

>>15636739
That's what the witch wants you to think. There's no reason she couldn't have completed that red truth unless there's something to hide.

>>15636742
Or, she's just messing around and didn't bother. You're supposed to doubt anything that's not red, but that doesn't mean everything that's not in red is automatically a trick.

>>15635788

>>/jp/thread/1625157#p1626439

>>15636786
But everything that's not red COULD be a trick. How the hell am I supposed to believe not a single bird can cook spaghetti if she won't say it in red?

>>15636786
There's no reason not to doubt. The only logical conclusion is deceit.

Guys.

I'm playing the game with the ps3 sprites and voices but for some reason the patches don't include the ps3 opening movies.

Any idea where I'd get those?

>>15636317
>Same goes for other birds
>But doesn't say in red

>>15636863
Is that an image just for ants?

>>15636787
What happened to !Nipaa0mi0?

>>15636864
Without love, it cannot be seen.

>>15636801
>>15636805
Okay, let's say she's lying. So what? What does it matter to you if some bird somewhere in the world has mastered Italian cuisine? Unless you can find some way that it affects the mystery, who cares?

That's the whole reason blue truth was created. Asking to have everything proven to to you is pointless. You just waist time doubting everything without ever coming up with any actual theories.
>>15636859
Wasn't there a download for that at the patch site? You need to put the video in the right folder.

>>15636869
Nice backpedaling, Beatoriiche

>>15636867
>What happened to !Nipaa0mi0?
He's still around, probably. I haven't seen him since Rika's birthday thread on /a/ in 2013 or so. He said he's still posts just without his trip.

>>15636869
>Wasn't there a download for that at the patch site?
Well, Uminekofix redirected me to http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=395795 and I used that patch.

No idea where else I should search.

>>15636869
The download link for just the individual patches was taken down something after Mangagamer announced they were going to officially release it.

>>15636869
If a bird can master cooking spaghetti, it could also master murdering people!

The killer was an American bird, it's so damn obvious!

>>15636869
>Okay, let's say she's lying. So what? What does it matter to you if some bird somewhere in the world has mastered Italian cuisine? Unless you can find some way that it affects the mystery, who cares?

Let's look at the matter from another perspective, why does she feel like she needs to point that Japanese birds CAN'T cook spaghetti, but she conventionally forgot to add in red that the others can't?

What is she hiding?

>>15636877
At least he didn't kill himself like that dude who spammed that pic of Beato in Ep5 dying.

>Umineko screenshot generator is still up after all these years

Hell yeah

>>15636903
Does anyone have these pics of Ep. 1 version in which everyone knows that Shannon and Kanon are the same person and they go along with Yasu delusion laughing all the way?

>>15636888
If you're looking at it that way, then every time she talks normally without using the red truth she's hiding some master plot twist.

She probably just didn't care enough to say the other part in red, because there was no reason to. Even the part that is in red really didn't need to be.

>>15636882
I've never heard anything so ridiculous than when I read The Murders in the Rue Morgue.
>lol the murderer was some orangutan who was scared and murdered everyone
>oh and the detective saw a poster that wasn't even shown in the narration and it's how he figured it out

>>15636906
Oh god kek

>>15636908
>She probably just didn't care enough to say the other part in red,
Oh yeah, because saying that part in red would be SO HARD.

>>15636914
>solved using non-stated info
There should be a law against this

>>15636906
>>15636916
Gotta wonder if Ange would be happy with this result.

>>15636877
>>15636898
>>/jp/thread/6917408

Re-reading some of older Umineko discussion is fucking hilarious.

>>15636317

>>15636918
There is, it's called the Van Dine
>1. The reader must have equal opportunity with the detective for solving the mystery. All clues must be plainly stated and described.
>10. The culprit must turn out to be a person who has played a more or less prominent part in the story — that is, a person with whom the reader is familiar and in whom he takes an interest.

I'm really curious to read some of Van Dine's stories to see if they hold up.

>>15636920
>>15636920
>Gotta wonder if Ange would be happy with this result.
I know Jooji would be.

>>15636928
Why is Will so hot.

Too bad he's a lazy hobo.

>I'm really curious to read some of Van Dine's stories to see if they hold up.

They are good, though Vance is kinda of an asshole and there is a LOT OF SMOCKING.

>>15636925
The archives are very interesting to read.

>>15636926
Can humans cook spaghetti?

uuu~!

>>15636936
Aren't detectives in general all assholes?
I mean, they're all mary sues in one way or another.

Do you still hate George?

>>15636946
Is Maria autistic or retarded?

>>15636939
>>/jp/thread/6917408#p6917785

I still thing this comment holds true tbqhwyf

>>15636946

>>15636954
I still don't like him. He's not the worst person in the story, and he stood up for shit, but he's really really unlikeable.

>>15636954

>>15636951
Marple is a nice lady.
Poirot is weird, a bit mean to Hastings, but ultimately a nice guy, especially to ladies who always confess their secrets and torments to him.
Fell is the only one I think it's kinda assholish, but he's also SUPER FAT

>>15636954
︀

>>15636975
>>15636967
That's a bit of an hateboner you have.

>>15636971
>Marple
I heard that she's a cynical fuck, only believing that humans are all the worst possible types of people and pretending to be a meager old lady.

>>15636979
This guy screams Tomitake so fucking hard it's distracting

>>15636956
>>15636964
UUU!

>>15636983
But Tomitake is an hot stud with ton of muscles who is also banging a 10/10 nurse.

Why is the steamversion so shit compared to the PS3 one?

They're basically just selling the vanilla game with new sprites and asking for 23€ like they've worked so hard on it.

>>15636979
>your cousin goes to touch your waifu's breasts
>she does nothing
>he goes closer
>she's too shy to stop him from groping her
>he wants to stop but he's too much of a pervert to top
>you let it happen anyways because you're too much of a virgin faggot
>your other cousin has to intervene to stop him from molesting your waifu
I mean, Jesus Christ, come on George.

Whenever George's glasses fog, he shows his true self. It was just by accident that I noticed it and decided to check what he said whenever his glasses fog up. Most of the time, it's just embarrassing things, but more often than not, he's a passive aggressive asshole.

>>15636983
>This guy screams Tomitake
As if that's a coincidence.

>>15636990
Tomitake's boring.
His muscles came from the fact that he was in the army in the most isolated position, sniping, and when he had an eye accident, he became completely worthless. His only hobby is to take pictures of birds and he is barely interesting in his job with Tokyo. He is only a liason with a fruitless research station that ends up being shut down.
He tricks a woman who only worked her whole life and falls in love with his hobby of photography because she has nothing else going for her in her life.

I still find it extremely weird that Ryukishi finds Tomitake to be his favorite character. Or maybe he's proud that he created such a boring character without just making him bland.

>>15637034
Dude pls. Your hate for some characters is completely irrational

>>15637145
How is it irrational when I've explained it in a rational way?

>>15636926
>Umineko generator is still up
>Willard still hanst been added

>>15637145
I believe it's some old meme/joke from the old days, when Umineko used to be popular around here, but I may be wrong. I don't really mind it as much as it's boring and overused and the effect is no longer funny but slightly annoying. Oldfags, stuck in the old times. Nothing important, just ignore it.
>>15637188
>Umineko generator
What is that?

>>15637205
>What is that?
Forget I asked, I know now.

>>15637158
Your explanation is based on opinions that have no logical basis. Just personal biases

>>15637233
It's a joke, just like those silly pics of George being fat. The man that always post the same pics is also a joke.

>>15637233
Personal opinion. What a joke. As if any part of my explanation was guesswork and not what happened in Higurashi.
What other topic of interest does Tomitake hold?
Is it not true that the only reason he liked Takano was because was because he has a fetish for nurses?
Is it not true that Takano called him boring and unmanly, not even knowing why she liked him?

Hell, out of all the characters in Higurashi, he was the only one who did not get a cool scene or moment. Except maybe Irie and his stupid maid fetish.

Tomitake is worthless, a shit. A joke.

>>15637258
>if we all laugh, perhaps the truth will become a joke
>Hillarylaughing.gif

The only one funny thing about this joke it's the fact that I always imagine this person insulting his own faults towards a fictional character. It's more funny this way hehe

>>15636954
George was the largest outlier of the cast in that he not only learned his sin, but moved past it as well. He had his entire life ahead of him and would've forgiven Yasu for their sin had he known, or saved them from the tragic fate. If there is any character that didn't deserve to die on Rokkenjima, it was certainly George or Kumasawa

>>15637325
I agree with you, but as despicable as some of them were, nobody deserved death.

>>15637322
>the reason you hate him is because you see yourself in him!
That would require a stupidity of someone who isn't self conscious of themselves. Duality requires transcendence.

>>15637353
Sometimes we can't help ourselves of being stupid. You dumbass. You always have an argument for everything.

>>15637367
>You always have an argument for everything
No, I have an answer for everything. Which is natural since duality is everything.

>>15637347
I would disagree with Kinzo, though he already died, but I'm just saying most of all, George really deserved to live out of the family. He was a model head almost on par with Lion

>>15637325
>>15637347
>>15637398

Looks like Maria's mother isn't the only one who hates her.

>>15637377
>duality
What's up with that word, anon? I've noticed you keep using that a lot.

>>15637405
He's being pretentious. Report him and his friend, they're ban evading and soon will try and derail the thread again.

>>15637412
Don't think of a pink elephant

>>15637404
Maria is fine. I don't think she deserved to die but she's always doomed to share Rosa's fate. And again, I just think George's contributions were more significant and his character arc was more developed in the human world.

>>15637405
He's just being himself.

It is not a seacats thread without over 9000 broken links/dels

>>15637498
It's a shame we don't get the theory wars with walls of text with anon arguing with each other endlessly anymore.

Like how you could ruin a single thread just by posting "the locked room chain was impossible" or "Yasu answer was a copout"

>>15637498
Due to this board's and this topic's nature autists are drawn in like ants to honey.

Screenshot generator is fun

can someone explain the yasu mutiple personalities? how can she just randomly discard them?

>>15637572
They're "roles" more than they are personalities.

>>15637577
i thought that as well but i just read a ryukishi interview where he basically says they are multiple personalities, which confused me.

>>15637587
What interview? Either way I think the point is that she can consciously and voluntarily be one over the other at any time.

answer to the golden witch. he refers to beatrice as a collection of multiple personalities, and says the shannon personality didnt commit murder.

http://umineko.wikia.com/wiki/Answer_to_the_Golden_Witch

Okay, so I think I've finally just about finished the Eva nude edit. All that's left is to make the 18+ version.

>>15637703
Do Ange grope animation next, those are your best work. I don't think nude edits really work well with the Steam sprites - they look kind of goofy.

>>15637602
Are you referring to this?

>R: That’s why I didn’t tell them anything. But to Miss Ohara who played the role of Beatrice I told the whole truth, so she would know what lies behind her words and so she could base her acting on that knowledge. That is why both Battler and Beatrice deliver such a solid performance. And the reason for not letting Miss Kugimiya know anything, was because the Shannon personality herself was not the culprit.

Interesting interview, I haven't seen this one before.

There's some parts where Ryukishi talks about criticism he received that gave me some feels:

>K: Many people who criticize that scene seem to be missing that Will and Dlanor are accepting the goats as well.

>R: I really didn’t do a good job with that part, I seem to have screwed up majorly…

>K: I guarantee you that if you don’t stop thinking, then you will arrive at the truth.

>R: By now I have fallen into the dilemma of thinking, “for what reason am I writing my works?”. Am I writing because I want to pamper my readers? Or am I writing for the joy of writing itself? Of course I want to see wonderful deductions like yours KEIYA. To have their works read and find reactions towards it, that’s one of the greatest joys of every writer. But if I go online now and search for reactions, it’s much easier to find really harsh impressions. If they do have a point, then I’m glad, but there are actually many people who seem to have never read the work at all and just looked up some of the answers, who are now saying “it might have been in the story, but…”. If I read something like “Can’t he write on his own?”, then I lose my confidence. Though, when I read thoughts like yours, then I actually get better again. After the release of EP8 it became especially harsh. I thought about retiring after Umineko. That is why Umineko has a culprit who can only be understood by people who think. I wanted to give it a culprit that cannot be copypasted. In that sense, I think YASU is a groundbreaking invention.

>>15637703
Speaking of which, was there a nude Evatrice yet?

>>15637732
No there hasn't. But before you ask, I'd like to hold off on both hers and Virgilia's for the time being. The reason is that those 2 will probably be the hardest ones to make out of the first 4 arcs, so I'd like to save them for later.

>>15637717
Well, Ange was already the next request anyway, so I might as well do both her edit and her animation. I'll probably do the animation first, sense they take significantly less time.

By the way, did you happen to see the Shannon animation back when I posted it? I tried out a few new ideas and would appreciate some feedback on it for the upcoming animation.

>>15637703
NEEDS MORE SAG

>>15637771
Forgot the animation in question

>>15637771
Yes I saw it. I liked everything but the nipple hardening, which I thought was a little cheesy and contrasted with the rest of the animation. What technique are you using for each frame?

>>15637834
>What technique are you using for each frame?

For the breasts of course is what I meant.

>>15637731
>Umineko has a culprit who can only be understood by people who think

I'll kill everyone. In the name of love and ponies

>>15637717
>those are your best work
I personally find those rather boring and tacky. Not that they're badly made, the animation is rather good, but I get no joy out of seeing breast bounce. With the lewd edits, there's thought, creativity and lewd design based solely on reworking the outfit without creating something new entirely.
It's weird how someone can find nude edits to be goofy but not groping animation.

>>15637826
Right almost forgot about the original and comparison images. Just a few minutes.
>>15637834
It's all done with photoshop, plus online gif/ webm makers.

I start by cropping the breasts. Then I fill in some of the area where the breasts were, redrawing the clothes so that they extend further inward. This is to create a background that you can freely move the breasts over without any transparent areas showing up as they do so.

Once that's out of the way, I just copy and paste the breasts, then use transform tools to edit the breasts just a little bit. I usually use scew for bouncing and warp for groping motions.

I then repeat the process, pasting another copy of the breasts and transforming it slightly further than the last one. 6-8 variations should be enough for an animation, but I suggest clicking back and forth between them to check if they flow naturally.

For the expressions, I pretty much cut out a bunch of her expressions, then looked through them to find one's that I could make smoothly transition. I also made several new expressions, either by combining parts of various faces into one, or by using transform again to create intermediary frames between two expressions.

Once you face a transition of breasts, faces, and whatever else you feel like adding, all thats left is to synchronize them together. I saved each frame separately, (for a total of 72 frames for Shannon) then fed them into an online program to make the final gif. It ended up to big to post though so I used another program to turn that gif into a webm.

>>15637873
I like both. It's fun to experiment. Either with "What kind of outfit should I make," or "What should I make them do in this animation?"

>>15637703
Also I've mixed the new nude edit with the final version dress design. It looks rather good.
Though I still feel that something is missing on her leg. But it's a damn if you do, damn if you don't, so meh.

>>15637895
Well I do enjoy seeing Shannon's reaction as she closes her eyes, looks uncertain, starts to like it and blushes, that's really well done.

>>15637920
Thanks. The scenario I had imagined was " what if the other cousins hadn't been around to stop Battler during their reunion in Episode 1" And of course pretending that this takes place in some alternate world without the whole Yasu/pads thing

Yeah Thanks for saving me the effort on that one. I'm remaking some of the other outfits too. I'll let you know if I think of anything for her leg, but overall I'm satisfied with that outfit.

You know, now that I think of it the bottom of that outfit would only cover her crotch (and barely at that). So Eva would be walking around with her ass fully exposed.

Here's the comparison for whoever wants it.

I want to touch Bern's butt.

>>15637975
>So Eva would be walking around with her ass fully exposed.
Like all the other characters? Haha. The only characters that don't have their ass exposed is Dlanor because she has a suit covering her entire body.
Bernkastel is almost entirely naked. Same for Lambda. Maria is in her pantsu and the bunny's ass is completely exposed, even if it doesn't show.
Overall, I'm also really happy with the end result of Eva.

I don't really have any ideas for Ange, so we'll see how that turns out.

>>15637980
No sag > sag

>>15637731
That last bit really made me tear up a bit. Man.

>>15637731
>"Of course I want to see wonderful deductions like yours KEIYA"
So because he wants to feed his ego, he bothered everyone with a story that was only meant to make you guess.

>>15638003
>No sag > sag
I'm glad I got the fix right.

I've already started coming up with some idea's for Ange. Something like black lace lingerie to contrast with Maria's kiddie panties.
Ange also has her own variation of the one-winged eagle on her armband, and I thought I could model an outfit based on that like I did with Eva.
Other than that, I think something that shows an underboob would look good on her, considering the angle her rack is at in the sprite.

>>15638045
>Something like black lace lingerie to contrast with Maria's kiddie panties.
Ohhh risqué. The problem is that it doesn't fit with the accepted fan view that Ange never wears panties. Gold Truth and all that. How many ass shots do we have to see before everyone agrees that she goes nopantsu?
But that runs into the problem of not having anything covering her crotch.

>I thought I could model an outfit based on that like I did with Eva.
Hmmm, that could work.

I like the idea of an underboob though.

>>15638045
Man, i wanna fuck Ange so hard.

>>15638163
I want to make her cry and force her to scream that her onii-chan never loved her.

>>15638152
>The no panties theory
I already made an edit for that one. And it just means that she doesn't wear them with her clothes. She can still take off her clothes, put on lingerie, and then go around in that.

Also, any ideas on what I could try to do with her animation?

Ah, the amount of ways to break Ange is so numerous and fun.

>>15638199
Not to mention this cover.
I have my own personal fanwank that Ange refused to wear Eva's freshly bought panties until her onii-chan came back, so she's lived her life without any panties.

Stop being mean about Ange, she doesn't deserve it you sick fucks.

Or maybe Rudolf is just a kinky fuck who taught his daughter to never wear panties because he prefers his women to never wear panties. I'm sure Kyrie likely also doesn't wear panties.

>>15638215
I still can't believe that's an official cover. Imagine trying to buy that volume in a store.

>>15638226
I want to blackmail Ange using Maria's diary, releasing one page at a time the same way a mobster would send a finger to family members.
I want shove a page of Maria's diary down Ange's throat and force her to swallow.
I want to force Ange to write graffiti on her parents tombstone.
I want to take Eva's diary and threaten to burn it in from of her.
I want her to get naked and beg me not to burn it.
I want to chain older Ange to a pole and burn down her orphanage.
I want to break the fingers of old Ange so that she can never write any more stories.
I want to force Tohya to say to Ange that the real reason he never came back was because he never loved her.

Does anyone have any high res scans (not waifu2x resizes) of the official Deen dakimakuras and the lewd Alchemist bonuses? I've only ever managed to find Jessica's and a scan of Satan/Asmo from an artbook. This is important to the legacy of Umineko lewds.

>>15638293
0/10

>>15638321

>>15638293
>not wanrting to bully Bernkastel

Is there a torrent/download for the new Umineko by mangagamer yet? I haven't seen anything for it but maybe I'm just blind.

>umineko's sprites are not on spriters-ressources
Meh.

>>15638673
How can you bully a girl who's so detached to life?
>pull her tail
Other than that?

>>15638762
That's simple. At first, I would walk to her, and tell her I'm going to spank her.
Of course, she wouldn't believe me and would be extremely sceptical. To say the least.
But as I would start pulling her ear and dragging her, she would understand I'm not joking and would start yelling and using magic. Through the power of bullshit, I would be completely immune to her magic.
Then I would pull her over my knees, would raise her skirt, confirm whether her tail goes under her skirt or has a special hole for it, and I would start spanking her.

Smug people are the easiest to bully. Anything that hurts their pride can do.

>>15638793
>Through the power of bullshit, I would be completely immune to her magic.
Smells and sounds like bullshit.
Using X to do anything is just bullshit and lacks realism. Just as I could use X to make Ange my sex slave, it's boring to leave it as X. The action and process is as important as the methodology itself. You can't just say, I will use X and be able to spank her to get your desired effect. You need something that will fuck her up, a true real X, for you to be able to spank her.
Not only that but you also fail to explain how spanking her leads to her being bullied, as she might not feel anything. This is why saying X will make it so, doesn't work.

>>15638858
Nah, it'll work. When Battler reach the ninth level of magic resistance, he became completely immune to everything magical. Including protections.

To paraphrase the Doctor, in front of a being with an extreme resistance to magic, "a wooden door is just a door".
If you can reach the perfect resistance to magic, all the witches are just little girls.

>>15638877
Incorrect, he was only immune to witches illusion. When Bernkastel threw that mystery dragon at him, he did not reflect or reject it. Battler is only immune to Beatrice's magic, not meta magic in general.

>>15638892
...
Well, fuck. My plan to get Bernkastel to cry isn't ready yet.

>>15638897
Welcome to my hell. If you also ever figure out a way to kill her, let me know.

>>15638912
Why kill her? That'd be a waste of a good loli.

>>15638921
She doesn't deserve to live and doesn't want to live. And I hate her, which is reason enough. I want to choke her and see her eyes roll back. I want her to vanish and never exist. I want her to never exist ever again.

>>15638942
What a waste. You can keep her alive and make her life a joke on top of getting off to it.

>>15638946
Her existence is a waste that should have never existed. Only because Hanyuu wanted a friend. She is a burden on existence itself and should die. She doesn't deserve to live, even as a joke. I hate her with every fiber of my being.

>>15638951
Even so, it's a waste. Why throw something that you can have fun with?
Beside, if she's really unbreakable and unable to feel pain as you think, you can inflict her literally whatever sick fetish you have.
Like holding her hand, petting her head, or dry anal sex or maybe even spank her.

The possibilities are endless.

>want to post Bern picture
>"malicious code detected"
Even 4chan doesn't like Bernkastel.

>>15638977
>Like holding her hand, petting her head, or dry anal sex or maybe even spank her.
Disgusting. I don't want anything to do with her. I don't want to touch her, I don't want her to touch me. I don't want to be in the same kakera/multiverse/whatever as her. I want her dead.

I can't think of a way to make her suffer so I'll just go for the more direct option and want her dead. The only alternative I will ever accept is torture that will last an eternity where she has to scream as loud as possible or else the pain gets worse until the end of time and only then will she be allowed to die. Thereby intensifying her pain forever until she dies and pleasing my ears as she will be endlessly screaming for as long as I live.

>>15639008
>I can't think of a way to make her suffer
Lambdadelta, please. Just give her to me.

>>15639011
I 'certainly' will not give her to you.

>>15639016
Dammit.

Thinking of getting the Steam version once there's a sale. Are the music encoded in a bullshit format or can I export them to my library directly like I did with Higurashi?

>>15639080
Ehhh, if you want to make it even funnier, add *tips Head mirror *
I'd love to write the Kinzo fight scene but I'm a lazy fuck.

>>15639101
They're OGG-files, like in the original game

>>15639142
Good to know. I was afraid Mangagamer would pull the same shit they did in Higurashi, either replacing the music and encoding them.

>>15639103
>Kinzo
I meant Nanjo. I really need sleep.

>>15639101
>Thinking of getting the Steam version once there's a sale
The sale was when it came out, which was ~ 10% iirc.

>>15639190
Meh. Fuck that. I'll get the music on piratebay or something.

>>15639016
Don't be so selfish. Share the cat loli.

>>15639200
I love to bully my cats. Why would I share the opportunity to break Bernkastel by giving her to anyone else?

Do you know, stay cats will never love you no matter how much you feed them. This is why you have to force yourself on them. Slowly break them by forcing them to accept you as they have no other option.
This is why I cannot leave Bernkastel alone despite wanting to do terrible things to her.

Boring
>>15639210
I knew it. You do love Bernkastel.

>>15639222
No, I hate her. I hate her with every fiber of my being. There is nothing I hate more than Bernkastel. If I could make one wish, it would be for her to die and never live. My disgust and hatred will never be match for how much I absolutely hate her and will never stop hating her.

>>15639225
What a shame. You'll never enjoy breaking her with pain and humiliation.

>>15639225
No, you don't. After reading your little discussion from above with that Berkastelfag, yeah, I'm pretty sure you like her. Don't lie to me.
The Umineko screenshot generator is a huge revelation for me. Fun.
>>15639230
Mr. Thepedo? Of course it was you. I'm glad to see you having fun.

>>15639230
The only joy I want is her death.

>>15639234
>Don't lie to me.
I have nothing to lie. You know as much as I do how much I absolutely despise Bernkastel. Just because I understand her does not mean I'll ever forgive her.
I am not like Battler who randomly decided to throw away his hatred for love. I will forever and ever hate that cunt.

>>15639234
I could understand the Stanley joke, but that one is too obscure for me.

>>15639243
You can have so much fun with a toy like that, and you choose to kill her? What a shame.
Even Takano was offered a chance to live as a fucking guinea pig and probably got dissected alive.

>>15639243
There's nothing you can say anymore. You have tell me before how much you feel identified with her, you ever compare me with Lambdadelta before. You're trapped. The game we started last year, I win after all.
>>15639253
So I was wrong again.

I love when I win. The feeling is always great.

>>15639260
I don't want to fuck Bernkastel. I just want to humiliate her by treating her like a little girl. I want to spank her little butt, send her to her room, forbid her of going out to play with Lambda.

Her smug face just pisses me off. And I was really hurt by her betrayal.

>>15639253
>What a shame.
My pleasure is not in her humiliation but in her ultimate demise.

>>15639260
>The game we started last year, I win after all.
No no no no no. I hate her I hate her I hate her!!!!
I have never proclaimed to love her. NEVER. You have misinterpreted my proclamation of being unable to stop hating her as the dual opposite of only thinking about her with love.
I simply posted with Lambda to the reply of sharing her. Nothing more and nothing less.

Do not misinterpret my hatred goddamn it!

>>15639270
There's but a thin line between love and hatred.

>>15639270
Without hate it cannot be seen?

That goes against everything I know.

>>15639268
Holy shit, you like OFF too?
>>15639270
Nah nah nah, I win. There's nothing to be embraced. I hate you too, and we still talk. YES! I win. YAY!

>>15639284
Much better.
>>15639270
You probably hate me too, am I wrong?

>>15639284
Unrelated party, but one can't just declare themselves a winner! If the fight keeps on raging on then nobody wins.

Besides Loli witches aren't even best girls.

>>15639284
When I don't want to spank Japanese lolis, I play video games, yeah.

Going through all the backgrounds and characters just reminds me of how much I would've preferred the game if it was less about two trolls arguing to oblivion and more about murders.

>>15639301
Argument invalid, lolis are automatically better, no matter how. For lust, plot, character developement...

>>15639281
Without love, it cannot be seen that I fucking hate her.

>>15639279
That's entirely bullshit. All there is is simply passion. There is an ABSOLUTELY strong ass line between hatred and love. Fuck Battler and fuck this meme bullshit phrase.

>>15639284
No! I will never have any other emotion of Bernkastel other than hatred. You have only deluded yourself a victory and nothing more. You will never trick me into admitting that I have any other emotions for her other than pure hatred. I want her dead. Do you hear me? DEAD. DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD!

>>15639301
Shhh! This is my win.
>Loli witches aren't even best girls.
Implying I care
>>15639303
I'm not a pedo, you stupid idiot. Just becuse I talk to you doesn't mean I think like you. I'm just having fun.
>>15639307
I win so hard. I'm so happy. Hearts for everyone! <3<3<3<3<3<3

>>15639307
Dude, slow down on the picture or you'll get in trouble for avatar fagging.

>>15639319
>I'm not a pedo, you stupid idiot
Okay.
So, just for the record : when people post a picture, it's not always adressed to you, you know? SOMETIMES, there are people using that thing called "self-deprecating humor", in which they will make fun of themselves.
For example, let's say someone wants to slap Bernkastel's ass, and is well aware of how strange it sounds. That person would make a picture of Bernkastel reacting in an outraged fashion to make fun of himself.

But alas, you proved yourself to be a self-centered rude simpleton, so I guess that's it.

>>15639319
>I win so hard. I'm so happy. Hearts for everyone! <3<3<3<3<3<3
You did not trick me and I have admitted nothing.

The rules of the game was for me to admit that I love Bernkastel. Nowhere can you prove that I have made this claim or accepted this. You have not won.

>>15639103
>>15639190
I thought there already was a Nanjo fight scene? Now a Kinzo fight scene is something I'd love to see.

Dear diary: Friday 5 August 2016
I win.
>>15639320
He is ban-evading anyway so he's going to sink like the Titanic very soon. No problems.
>>15639334
I'm just playing, Stanley, you don't need to take my insults so seriously. I'm not apologizing though.
>>15639340
Limp dick, I win. I'm not even thinking now. I just win.

>>15639351
Calming you've won doesn't make this a won match!

>>15639340
>>15639356
I told you to crack down.

>>15639351
>I'm just playing
No you weren't. People don't use insults when playing.

Damn, what's with all the deleted posts?

>>15639380
Two idiots avatarfagging and having a petty fight about LOVE.

>>15639356
And now you're dead, all because you were a dum-dum! Anyway, hey, you don't need to be sad. Not everyone can be a winner.
I'm going to be deleted soon so I guess it's the end. I win. Take care and don't cry too much, ok?
>>15639367
How new are you? Also, you don't understand me. I love to tease the people I like.

>>15639386
Hmm, yeah, kind of.

>>15639393
You should too crack down on avatarfagging and ban evading.

>>15639400
Just for today? Promise!

>>15639404
See you again ten years from now when you pop up from the abyss, I guess.

>going through Higurashi's sound files
>few ambient sound
You know, I'd really like to read a spooky VN that doesn't have any real music, just ambient sounds.

>>15635730
if only her outfit weren't so shit she could have been a decent character

>all my posts got deleted for "avatarfagging"
WHEN exactly was I avatarfagging?

So apparently, posting any kind of picture is now forbidden.

How am I supposed to post about Umineko without pictures?

I found the perfect way to bully Bernkastel.
My own cruelty surprises me.

>>15637703
sag ver when

>>15639689
I don't understand, can you explain it for me?

I guess not.

>>15639720
I can't.

I forgot to save the Bernkastel pictures from last thread, anyone has them?
Danbooru doesn't have much and I don't know the pixiv tag for Bern.

>>15639767
>last thread, anyone has them?
I have no idea which ones are you talking about, but >>/jp/thread/15624735#p15636732
There you go, search it yourself.

>>15639767
>last thread
I have no idea which ones are you talking about, but >>/jp/thread/15624735
There.

>>15639797
Thanks.
>>15639801
Thanks too.

>all these erased posts

>>15639810
Yea ignore the mess.

>>15639813
Will do. Anyway, couldn't find the picture there. It was a monochrome picture of Bernkastel seen from behind, her tail rising her skirt and showing her butt.

Also, I have to disagree with what another Anon said : Battler IS stupid. When Erika slowly corners him in the closet, he let himself got trapped. That was his stupidst mistake.

Nevermind, I found the picture.
Bern's butt.

>>15639831
I have no arguments against that, and I like him that way. He's had his moment of brilliance though.
>>15639840
Good for you.

>>15639851
That's Bernkastel's small, spankable, white, smooth butt.

What moment of brilliance by the way? When I try to remember, the only one that comes to mind is when he got out of Kinzo's study.
Erika's tears were sweet.

>>15637846
Jokes asises, I really don't understand how he thought people were going to figure the "why".

The how and who? Sure.

>>15639831
There are some that say Battler let himself be put in that situation in order to spur chick Beato into regaining her memories.

>>15639698
I already posted the comparison image. Here's the sag version by itself.

>>15637731
refering to these

< Yes. Because in the end it’s not like you can’t call her an assembly of multiple personalities. And she is also a construction, recreated several times in the form of the ghost stories or the Beatrice legend.

>While the body is Shannon, it’s worth thinking about whose body this was originally. Because in the end it is just a question of software. Even though the clothes belong to Shannon, if what’s within is another being then that person would surely be able to kill George. Clothes are not a personality. And so, even though the cloths and the hairdo might be Shannon’s, but there is the possibility that it was another person, when she started asking questions about George.

>>15639897
EP3 in general and the "pony" dialogue earlier gave enough to where we theorized "a" Beatrice being kept by Kinzo and trapped in a situation where she needed psychological rescue. From there it was a matter of figuring out the many hints that there were more than one Beatrice, putting things in a chronological order, and coming up with an idea of why this Beatrice needed rescuing. EP5 I think was the point where we finally got indications about the gender stuff, with an "aha!" moment if we believed Shkannon. EP6 was a last minute confirmation of that before EP7 explicitly told us.

>>15640337
I'm not talking about it.

Even if you figure the Shkanon and the pony, it's still pretty hard to tie it to a reason to plan mass murder. "How does it help her growing genitals back lol?" was a pretty common joke back then.

The manga does it pretty well, it shows that the weight of the revelations (Her body, Battle promise, the "sin" of Kinzo, the Italians massacre, the incest with her cousins) literally caused her to snap an one point and become suicidal. Even in ep. 2 she always seem pretty in control.

>>15639897
The 'why' becomes more clear if you pay attention to the fantasy scenes involving Shannon, Kanon, and Beatrice. There's a lot of hints and foreshadowing layered in those fantasy scenes that's easily missed if you're just looking at those scenes for the fights.

>>15640414
im someone who read all of it and still doesnt understand fully. what should i be looking for to reach the truth?

>>15640414
The fights scene are shit. And Yasu dilemma is piss easy once you get over the fact no one can tell the maid and the butler are the same person.

What people were confused it's how these scenes tied to a motive for MASS MURDER.

>>15640424
Eh, I think an important thing is to realize that there's not really many 'pointless' scenes in Umineko. When I first read umineko, I felt as if the fantasy scenes were wastes of time, it was obvious that what Ryukishi was showing us didn't actually happen, so why was he showing us it? But if you actually read the text and think about how it relates to the character's relationships with one another, the scenes end up being a lot more interesting. You end up learning more about how the characters feel about themselves and about others.
>>15640441
I don't understand. I'm saying that it's through the fantasy scenes that the motive becomes more clear. Those scenes are tied to the motive for a mass murder, because they give hints to it.

>>15640474
>I don't understand. I'm saying that it's through the fantasy scenes that the motive becomes more clear. Those scenes are tied to the motive for a mass murder, because they give hints to it.

The fantasy scene gives context for Yasu dilemma and internal fights. Leaving aside how much of these scenes people dismissed people they had problems accepting Kanon=Shannon, they didn't understand how to tie these scenes (Yasu identity dilemma) tied to MASS MURDER.

People failed to connect it with a reason to massacre the family and the cousins (whom she's in love with) previous to episode VII.

VII gives you a reason, her "roulette" and leaving things to fate, but even then people found it weak.

Yes, a lot of things are hinted in fantasy scenes, but without a way to check if your answers are correct, you have no way to understand whatever Kinzo "roulette" in Ep 1-4 is actually 100% fantasy, about OLD Kinzo, or Yasu (who is, again, mostly in fantasy scenes, so no way to actually CHECK if you are correct or not).

The manga does a better job because it shows how much unstable she became and her thought process.

>>15640474
>Eh, I think an important thing is to realize that there's not really many 'pointless' scenes in Umineko.

I am re-reading episode 1 now and wow.....lots of things can be interpreted in interesting ways.
Like in the beginning in the rose garden when Maria feels pity for the unhealthy rose among the normal ones, I believe it is a reference to Yasu. Also, Battler thinking to himself that Rosa is a person who always keep her promises and admiring her for it is really funny.....generally, there is whole lot of shit about the concept of promises/broken promises.

I am starting to think Umineko is more enjoyable to read when you know the whole story and characters, I don't know if R07 intended it this way....but that is how I feel things are.

>>15636863
Is that a picture for ants

>>15640567
Depends where you live. Ants are pretty big around here.

>>15640517
I don't think it's as ambiguous as you say it is. There were a lot of talks between Shannon and Kanon about the Golden Land and resigning themselves to fate. It's shown that they have a lot of self-hatred. I think there's a lot of things that you would not have been able to get through eps 1-4, such as the circumstances regarding Yasu's birth, but by episode 5 i think it became more clear.

Look back at Episode 2, there is a scene where Beatrice backs George and Shannon in a room, and Beatrice rants about there being no difference between lust and love, because Beatrice is pissed off that Shannon thinks George loves him. When George says "I love you" right before he dies, Beatrice kills him mid-sentence. The VN shows Yasu's unstableness as much as the manga does, it just does so in a different way.

I do enjoy the manga, but I think I'll always like the VN a bit more.

how is battlers promise connected to the motive? i don't understand how all of this was supposed to remind battler.

>>15640753
Because obviously the best way to make anyone remember you is by dating his cousins and murder all his family.

Is there any news on new When They Cry? Its been soo long since Umineko.

>>15640964
It doesn't look like it's happening, anon. Ryu-chan's moved on and is doing other works. He's gone on record as saying he'll probably not do another When They Cry.

>>15640989
That's for the best, given how shitty Umineko was.

>>15640989
>He's gone on record as saying he'll probably not do another When They Cry.
Now I'm sad and angry. I can guess that he doesn't want to burn his brain for another when they cry but his other works are nowhere good as them.

>>15641005
It was a fantastic ride though.

>>15641089
I agree. His best works are the WtCs. I guess we should be happy with what we got and hope for a miracle that someday he might bless us with another one.

Did anyone save that post about the green liquid Kinzo takes actually being viagra and that he likes to shut himself up in his study so he can masturbate to the Beatrice portrait whilst shouting her name at the top of his lungs?
It was stupid but it cracked me up.

someone that solve umineko please help me figure it out as well. its important

>>15641197

>>15641005

ALL WE HEAR IS RADIO GA GA
RADIO GOO GOO
RADIO GA GA

>>15640964
Hotarubi is the new WTC

>>15641197
http://umineko.renai.ru/
I thought this was an interesting website, it seems pretty accurate for the most part.

>>15641298
Why? It's not written by the same author.

>>15641306
What? It's written by Ryukishi

>>15641246
Not him, but it's not like disliking Umineko is anything particularly rare.

>>15641320
Is it? Can I get the full title, I'm looking and all I'm finding is Shojo manga

>>15641345
Hotarubi no Tomoru Koro ni

>>15641353
Huh, so far it's pretty brutal, not the typical buildup Ryukishi goes for

>>15641382
Looks like another work of him I won't like. A shame that Higurashi was a one of a kind.

>>15637980

Me on left.

>>15641382
I think he said somewhere that chapter 0 is supposed to be like a movie trailer, which is why it's kind of weird.

Chapter 1 is also translated, and you can download it here
https://mega.nz/#F!zcVlzTyD!JI0QG9sVsBSWpZK7Bs7zWw

>>15641428
Thanks anon.

I don't come to /jp/ often, but when I do you guys are seriously considerate anons

This thread is making me appreciate Eva more.

>>15641808
Only time I didn't appreciate Eva was during chapter 2 because of how she treated Shannon. But then learning her past in chapter 3 allowed me to forgive her and go back to loving and appreciating her.

>>15641808
Well she is the best aunt

>>15640541
Same here desu. It's like what Featherine said, once she has the answers she can go back through all the stories and use the answers like a key to understand and enjoy the stories more.

>>15640753
Sayo made a rule Z in her games stating that someone can stop her. She wanted Battler to recognize that it was her as the culprit and stop her. Problem was, Battler completely forgot about the promise and when Sayo found out she became heartbroken. That also explains meta-Beato's coma.

>>15641971
>Only time I didn't appreciate Eva was during chapter 2 because of how she treated Shannon
Why is that, Shannon and her parts are boring as shit.

>>15642127
She and her parts may be boring, but she's so precious I want to protect her.

>>15642141

>>15642114
yes but still i don't see how she expected anything from battler.. is it the whole murder mystery setup that is supposed to remind him?

>>15642166
I want to marry Shannon!

>>15642166
>>15642185

>>15642185
>>15642188

>>15642188
George looks so fat in the original sprites.

>>15642176
Battler was able to reach the truth by going through the first 4 games using the rules of Knox's decalogue to deduce who the culprit was and figured out it was Shannon. After that is to figure out her motive for the murders, and it would click that he made a promise to her 6 years ago and forgot, which is his sin.

>>15642188
>>15642216

>>15642233
fat with love for shannon

Can anyone tell me what Lambdadelta's origins are exactly? Is she an entity created in the Mariage Sorciere between Beatrice and Maria, or an "outside" entity like Bernkastel?

Also in the manga Beatrice says she needs a higher power than herself to observe her and recognize her as a witch. How does this work with Lambdadelta if she is a creation by her and Maria? This has me stumped.

>>15642166
Maybe if she and fatty weren't boring shit more people would have realized the truth.

>>15642176
The murder mystery on Rokkenjima's prime is not about making Battler find the truth, it's about leaving things to fate.

Maybe Battler will solve the epitath, maybe George will, maybe Gohda will, maybe someone will recognize her Kanon have the same face, maybe nothing will happen and they'll al meet again the Golden Land.

Keep in mind that Yasu is suicidal during Rokkenjima prime, the weight of the revelations drove her kinda insane.


Ep1-4 is where she laid her "heart" open and wanted Battler to solve it, but he didn't notice the butler and the maid were the same person.

>>15642256
Outside entity that existed before Bernkastel

>>15642256
It's not fully explained but she's an outside entity like Bern. She existed since Higurashi, using Takano as a piece. I think this mean's she's older than Bern, since Bern was born from Higurashi.

>>15642256
There is no origin story for 34, we know she existed before Bernkastel, she was making Tanako's will Fate (in a game against Featherine)

She lost the game and Bern became a witch.

She was trapped in a logic error once but won it and became a witch just like Bern, but we know nothing about it.

>>15642176
Because Shannon isn't Beatrice, Rosa is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHMta4YbjSM

>>15642268
>>15642270
As someone who only read Umineko, how does Shannon recognize this otherworldly entity? Is it by coincidence she thought of a being just like Lambda or is it some weird cross-story thing?

>>15642283
I think this guy needs to revise his theory a bit after the manga was finished. It disproves a lot of his explanations, like this one for instance

>>15642283
Does this guy still think Ryukishi is trying to fake out the readers, even after the manga has been released?

Reading some of the comments to that video is quite depressing for me. I'm not sure how many of those people are trolls or not.

>>15642331
I'm sure the guy has moved on or mellowed down as they all do

>>15642336
He might have, but I've seen several supporters of his theory in just the last few months. It seems like several of them just won't read/dismiss the manga.

>>15642302
If you need the manga to disprove Rosatrice for you, there are other problems.

>>15642331
Not sure about him, but I've seen some people claim that the stuff about Yasu in the manga is all a red herring, and that Ryukishi wants people to find the "real truth", or something like that

>>15642363
The real truth after the real truth

>>15642285
Shannon never met Lambda. Shannon=/= Beatrice. Lambda created Beatrice from the 'rules' of the gameboard, a toy for her and Bern to play with.
Lambda may have interacted with the piece Shannon, Like in the trial for Natushi.

Shannon prime (The 'real' Shannon) died with the Rokkenjima incident, but her ideas and influence went on to create Beatrice/Gaap/Ronove ect via Lambda making the game.

(Or am I forgetting a part where Shannon and Lambda meet? it's been a while. Sorry If I mixed anything up)

>>15642439
She talks to Lambda in the manga, when she gives her the power to become a witch

>>15642463
My bad, thanks for pointing that out.

>>15641971
I personally love her smug attitude towards Natsuhi. The voices amplify that by a lot and it's funny.

>>15642283
This whole thing is pretty retarded, but the thing that gets me the most is that he uses scenes from the anime as "proof"

>>15642621

Does anyone have those Takano vs Rika image that that Takanofag did some years ago?

>>15641428
>"import to my magical stock"
MAGIC DOESN'T EXIST

>>15642166
Well, to be fair, if you watch carefully that pic, you even can see a dude wearing girl clothes.

>Re-read the archive for old Umineko discussions

>>/jp/thread/S7100053

Holy shit, you really had it for Yasu.

>>15642283
...Even if Rosa was the culprit, anybody besides Shkannon being Beatrice is going full retard.

>>15642285
Do you mean Piece Shannon or Yasu? If it's Piece Shannon, it's the same reason she knows what happened on past gameboards, which is lolfurniture.

If you mean Yasu, it's because Lambdadelta is a voyager and often travels to different universes to grant the wishes of humans so she can enjoy the fallout.

(on a related note, I wonder how true the whole 'Lambdadelta making Beatrice a witch' thing is. Really, I'd think it was more just her going 'yeah, sure, I acknowledge you as a witch' and taking the credit for it all. After all, Battler didn't need anybody's acknowledgement to become a witch. Beatrice was mostly dead and the voyagers had already written him off.)

>>15643111
Lambdadelta was definitely Battler sponsor in Episode VI.

All Lamba did was making her tales fragments (which why she says she "sinned in many world") and I guess making her pop in purgatory after she died.

>>15643138
Ehh, she didn't actually do anything until after he turned the sword gold, though. I think he was already a witch at that point.

>>15643086
Why do you keep doing this to yourself by reading old threads over and over again

>>15642948
I thought I did, but all I had was this one.

>>15643086
Yeesh. Threads back then sure were toxic as fuck.

>>15643245
>toxic
Hy Reddit

>>15643187
Because it's fun

>>15642948
Oh you mean these ones? I'm pretty sure those are the ones you mean. I only have that one, I know there's a collection of those but I can't seem to find them in my Higurashi folder.

>>15643362
>pool car
What

>>15643366
>he doesn't have a pool car
Fucking poorfags.

>>15643370
I don't even have a car at all. I'm not fond of polluting everyone's air because I'm too fat and lazy to walk.

>>15643372
Swimming is more work than walking, though.

>>15643428
>implying
Your legs are always carrying your body when you're walking. When you're swimming, you have Archimedes' thingy keeping you afloat. You're not constantly struggling to not sink.

>>15643366
Like a carpool. You can hitch a ride with others in your neighborhood to go to school or work for contributing to gas money. It's efficient and helps your social skills.
Takano carpools with Tomitake and Rika in her trunk!

>>15643437
Actually, you burn up more calories if you swim than if you jog since you use most of your body to move. A good way to stay in shape is to swim rather than jog.