/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>15634690
Wow 2 seconds. Well done OP.

New thread >>15634691

Nanase
https://a.pomf.cat/imgqqk.mp4

Remove Komi.

>>15634732
is this new?

komiharu kawaii

>>15634690
Where is this from?

>>15634734
No, from last year.

>>15634745
bah

>>15634690
This should be a sub-unit.

Do you approve of this couple /akbg/?

>>15634750
The Bitchez

>>15634738
thanks anon.

>>15634750
"Temporary" Future Gen

>>15634759
business/10

>>15634750
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

>>15634759
NO.

>>15634772
More like The Goods and the Bad/Ugly

>>15634782
cmon seichan isn't that bad

>>15634779
And still no Himetan.

Seichan a cute

>>15634790
It would have been the first to leak. Or maybe second after Ikuta jugs.

got any Hiwatan navel pics?

>>15634790
There was a new one in the previous thread with some tummy showing, but no bikini yet, no.

>>15634764
This, pretty much they are the present already.

>>15634795
go away

>>15634799
I don't see it. Please point me to it.

>>15634795
gee I wonder who's behind this

Need the sexiness of Fire to kickstart the thread.

>>15634795
Like sailor fuku?

>>15634823
that's an ill-fitting bra but her breast gap is tops

>>15634747
For a second, her side profile kinda looks like IZUTA.

>>15634823
Your other thread failed pretty bad, huh?

>>15634826
She has some pretty awful teeth. Does she smoke , or purge or something?

>>15634832
What other thread?

>>15634836
How about I purge your head from your body?

>>15634836
both

>>15634836
No, she's just Japanese.

>>15634782
He's obviously talking about Komi

>>15634832
>there's only 1 nogi poster in all of /jp/

Please stop being retarded. I'm telling you this for your own good.

>>15634836
her teeth look fine, you're an idiot

>>15634815
Oh there's less tummy showing than I remember on closer inspection.

Sayunyan is hero we need for trying to pull her clothes off.

>>15634795
Anon I've been following her quite closely for a long time now and I have nothing. And there are only one or two other Hiwatan posters here, tops.

It's best to lay low for now. I know it's hard but if I ever see it I will post it here.

>>15634836
POST YOURE OSHIS TEETH

>>15634850
SEA negative pedo cuck pls leave

>>15634854
Is that Hirate the Mary Sue?

>>15634801
Here you go.

>>15634861
well now, here's an anon with true patrician tastes.

>>15634862
No.

>>15634861

>>15634863
The one and only.

>>15634690
Best trio.

>>15634869
it's sad what they do to kids to satisfy some doctors unnatural notion of aesthetics

>>15634854
>>15634875
It's still hard to believe that I actually like a group's center for once. This is a new feeling for me.

>>15634880
We can change that if you want.

>>15634879
its not some doctors, its the society that made her do it.

>>15634885
What are you proposing, exactly?

>>15634880
Will you still like her if she got 5 center position in a row?

>>15634854
>>15634875
My Parco son.

>>15634857
Yessss

>>15634888
not really, least of all japanese society. some doctor convinced her parents to pay for his car for a few months and that was that. now she has fucked up teeth for life

>>15634861

>>15634891
Not that guy, but I will. Hirate is a legitimate star. She deserves the attention and push more than any idol I've seen before.

She's not going to ikoma keyaki. They pay far less attention to her on the variety shows than the nogi shows did to ikoma. People won't get as tired of her so quickly as they did ikoma.

>>15634896
fixing bad teeth is good for health though.

>>15634891
Yeah, I'm not some kind of hipster. Just have bad luck with who catches my eye.

>>15634902
her teeth weren't bad

>>15634899
Akimoto Manatsu is testing my resolve lately.

>>15634880
What a hipster you are

>>15634888
What will you do if they ruin Naruchan?

>>15634732
the stilton on that!

>>15634901
I hate Kek46 but will admit she looked like a pro in that Parco MV.

>>15634905
Zukkyun, Anon-kun~

>>15634906
I don't know, she's not my oshi

I thought this was the AKB thread?

>>15634880
You don't like Ikuta?

>>15634901
Ikoma is why nogizaka is where it is today. She was the sabot center that no one appreciates now but without which they would never have left the ground

>>15634879
>some doctors unnatural notion of aesthetics
Nagisa is ugly as fuck. At least she is trying to be less ugly.

>>15634914
>that giant head will never rest on your shoulder

life is nothing but suffering.

>>15634904
Oh well, I don't think it was that bad either.

>>15634921
first off nagisa isn't ugly, second off, her teeth procedure made her look worse not better

>>15634864
Thanks. Didn't realize I asked in the dead thread.

>>15634920
If they switched Ikoma with someone else who's actually interesting, Nogi would already have a million seller single by now. They picked the wrong girl.

Meru is hot.

>>15634920
Except she has never been popular, and her annoying overbearing character only served to bring the group down for years. It's no coincidence that the group leaped in popularity the moment they stopped gori-pushing her over everyone else.

Nogizaka with ikoma center was a complete failure.

>>15634910
I'd rather have it on this.

>>15634934
There's no one more interesting in nogizaka than ikoma. From what you're saying she brought them to as high as they were capable of reaching with the members they had, and I happen to agree

>>15634941
>There's no one more interesting in nogizaka than ikoma
You are the wrongest person in the history of /jp/.

>>15634919
She hasn't solo centered enough to reach that status in my mind, but anyway, I'm neutral towards Ikuta. At least she's more interesting than Ikoma.

>>15634936
shame about the face

Ashu hates you too.

>>15634938
The popularity boost you're talking about was only possible because Ikoma did the hard part which is centering a new idol group. Anyone can make a popular group more popular, the problem is getting popular in the first place

>>15634949
#DicksOutForAshu

>>15634949
worst center

>>15634901
>she's 15
>people won't get tired of her
It's way too early to predict such things.

>>15634947
nah

>>15634961
yah

If they picked Ikuta as Nogi first center I don't think it will be as good, Ikoma was a good choice t b h.

>>15634946
They're just being nice and giving other girls exposure. Ikuta is the center of Nogizaka.

Hirate can actually sell handshake slots, something Ikoma could never do, because no one has ever liked Ikoma.

>>15634958
cutest center

>>15634901
I pretty much agree. Best center in a while. I think she is a better center than my 2nd most favorite girl and that kinda hurts my feelings.

Ikoma is the face of nogi IMO

>>15634949
Slighly less ugly here.

>>15634969
Everyone loves Ikoma

The hate for Ikoma is dumb. She's a good girl and a good member

>ikudrones

Ruins every fucking thread.

>>15634970
sup harry

>>15634965
Ikuta was a child. Ikoma was a placeholder until Ikuta was ready.

>>15634952
If at the beginning they had picked somebody else to push, Ikuta for example, they would've been more popular today.

It's a given that they would get more popular no matter who they pushed in the beginning but by choosing Ikoma they limited their early potential. Instead of having a popularity of let's say 100, they only achieved 70 because Ikoma is a bland and annoying piece of shit.

>>15634979
Then why has she never been able to sell handshake slots?

>>15634981
Completely irrelevant. Remember her kennin? I cringe at the thought now.

>>15634986
Hirate is a child too, so...

>>15634987
I'm beginning to think you simply don't like Ikoma. She was the best choice to center nogi, and from my perspective the only real logical choice given their members

>>15634987
biased conjecture

>drones still mad at Ikoma being the center of dream team

>>15634982
>being this mad because no one wants to talk about akb

>>15634989
Probably just awe

>>15634981

I liked her back then and I still like her now. She definitely has the aura.

Only akbfags like Ikoma because they're thankful for the good job she has done in holding back Nogizaka46's progression as a group.

>>15634992
Yeah but she wasn't homeschooled and fucked up by her tiger parents.

>>15634991
What about her kennin?

>>15635002
I thought homeschooling was illegal in japan. I heard it from an actual japanese guy so don't say I'm meme'ing

>>15635003
In hindsight it's a cringeworthy thing to do. Ikuta knew this.

>>15635007
ugly face ugly tits ugly girl unfollowed

>>15635008
Ikuta's from Doitsu.

>>15634864

>>15635010
>implying the girls have a choice as to whether or not they get a kennin

>>15634993
>She was the best choice
>almost 100k jump as soon as she wasn't center anymore
Clearly not.

>>15635016
They can turn it down.

>>15635012
when she was a baby who wouldn't be in school anyway

>>15635001
I don't even care for Ikoma but her being the first nogi center was a good choice.

>>15634995
Now this was a bad choice, her voice doesn't suits the song.

>itt sony's executives still too proud to admit ikoma was a mistake

People always talk about Ikoma's Concurrency and seem to completely forget about Rena.

>>15634920
Ikoma was a fine choice for the first single, maybe even the second. But the next three also? Fuck no.

The main problem was the shows though. Doko for the first 50 or so episodes was "the Ikoma Rina show featuring bananaman"

That was what made people get over her.

We can all agree that Ashu center was the worst pick ever though.

>>15635017
as I said, the hard part is getting a group popular from the ground up, not making an already popular group more popular. anyone can do that. you're essentially looking at a rocket that just left orbit and saying they didn't need that giant thruster after all

>>15635022
>her being the first nogi center was a good choice

No.

>>15635029
yes

>>15635021
She could play the violin before she could walk.

Ikoma is more talented than the drone anyway.

>>15635033
Guess we just have to agree to disagree.

>>15634989
She's always been able to sell handshake slots. She even completely sold out last single. Wtf are you on about?

>>15635026
Rena Nogi kennin is the best thing that ever happened.

>>15635030
That giant thruster they used at the beginning was simply defective. They could've achieved a better result if they had picked a better giant thruster in the first place.

>>15635027
If they had a rotating center position it would be too unstable and confusing, ikoma provided that stability. and judging from the results of that decision it worked well. I can't imagine a revolving chaotic center position doing better for a group such as theirs in the position they were in

>>15635029
Oh yeah. It's like they thought Nogi was getting too big and had to handicap them for a bit.

Ikoma carried Nogizaka.

>>15635017
correlation causation etc.... Every single had a jump in sales. We don't know why Girl's Rule had the biggest jump so far but you can assume what you want to justify your needless hatred

>>15635043
That's impossible.

They finally scheduled Neru's own Showroom-live show (5th of August, 20:00-20:30 JST).

https://www.showroom-live.com/keyakizaka46

>>15635052

You're arguing with an ikudrone, anon. They're still butthurt over the Ikoma center dream team.

>>15635017
taiyou knock sold more than any ikuta centered single

I love how serious the thread gets when it's Nogi discussion time.

>>15635050
>They could've achieved a better result

yes you would know

>>15635050
They had no other thrusters to use. Ikoma really was the best choice in the beginning. No one else had presence in the beginning, or at least not as much as Ikoma did

Literally no one cares about the meme team thing.

>>15635064
I hope it's not just some guy who wanted ikuta to center every single and that's why he's saying all these things, that would be sad

>>15635071
There was another center before Ikoma. No one knows why she got fired but they were left scrambling to replace her.

>centers affect sales
this meme again

Nogi is dead to me, I only follow KKK nowadays and also Team 8

>>15635077
No on wants that. Just admit that Ikuta is the center of the group though aka the Ace.

>>15635067
>serious

Damn, Ikudrones truly are the worst.

>>15635075
remove this whale

>>15635072
I forget about it until now.. the perfomance was cringy as fuck to me. Wish I could erase it from my mind.

>>15635079
It all worked out better than expected

Reminder that Ikoma crushed the other members in the nogibingo ep where they had to walk the streets alone and see how long it took for anyone to recognize them.

>>15635077

Hopefully it is otherwise I can't think of a better explanation other than to shitpost.

>>15635087
Please stop bully

>>15635029
As much as I like Ashu and wanted her to do well, yes it's gone pretty poorly.

Next center is solo Maiyan, calling it now.

>>15635092
Ikoma really is the face of nogi

>>15635092
Because no one else in Japan looks like a weird old man in a little boys body.

Mayuyu likes Ikoma and so do I.

>>15635058
>>15635097
you can stop now, ikudrone

>>15635075
I was browsing my Cho folder and to my surprise I saw a slight buttcheek of her ofc I won't be posting it.

>>15635095
katomina should be the upper limit of what is acceptably fat. shiorin, mio, owada and anyone over should be expelled

>>15635100
Now you're just throwing insults around

>>15635096
Misa is announcing grad though.

>>15635084
Yeah, I was lukewarm on Nogi, and then the Ashu center sucked me back in. But now that it's not going over well I think I'm finally done.

>>15635108
there is no acceptable level of fat

>>15635108
Katomina is fatter than any of those diet girls.

>>15635088
I only watched for the studio segments anyway. And LOVE TRIP.

>>15635092
Some people is too proud to admit she's by far the most popular member.

>>15635104
Mayuyu is shit why do we care about her liking Ikoma. She will never be good enough to be a Nogi. Deal with it.

>>15635110
That's all the Ikoma haters have ever been doing.

Katomina is not fat she just has big face.

>>15635045
>i'll just take it literally if people said she wasn't able to sell handshake slots

To dumb it down for you, her handshake sales were not good.

1st single: 1/15
2nd: 4/10
3rd: 10/18
4th: 3/23
5th: 5/23
6th: 5/28
7th: 19/28
8th: 7/30
9th: 4/29
10th: 4/29
11th: 4/22
12th: 14/22
13th: 14/19
14th: 18/18

The first was acceptable but by the 3rd single some members with much lesser push had managed to sell almost all of their slots. Clearly the right choice by management, I'm sure.

>>15635092
well, she was by far the member with most exposure at the time due to being center multiple times
not trying to start shit or anything but that doesn't really tell us too much
i find it really hard not to like ikoma though, i'm impressed people can hate her with so much passion

>>15635113
You'll never be a top dog.

>>15635122
shut up, she's fucking huge

>>15635106
don't do this anon. :(

>>15635119
Did mayo fucked your oshi or something?

>>15634914
Love love love zukkyun~

>>15635092
If management had picked another girl to push at the beginning, that girl would've been more popular than Paruru by now. Ikoma is weak.

>>15635123
>18/18
you're done

>>15635131
She didn't that why he's mad, Ikoma is sealed.

>>15635119
>insulting mayu

Well now you just went too far and shown your true self as a falseflagger.

>>15635122
Katomina is my sunshine

>>15635128
prove it

It's funny that ikoma, being the only non-slut in nogizaka, is hated by the nogicucks.

>>15635117
She's well known thanks to the gori push that nobody else got, not popular.

>>15635134
you're just extrapolating from your personal feelings about Ikoma. We can never know how well the group would have done in the beginning with a different center

>>15635134
And which girl would that have been in nogizaka's early careers? All of the girls were like pollywogs still wabbling around on deck trying to get their sea legs. Ikoma bloomed early as an idol and was already ready to captain the ship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_YWaCAMPo8

>>15635075
Hnnggg, gorgeous 8to with a good oshiri. Next Mayuyu right there.

>>15635145
Makes you think.

>>15635144
I don't save pictures of fat girls you fat loving inbred

>>15635129
I'll give you a hint Lovetoxic

>>15635147
well known, popular.... not the same?

>>15635150
>Ikoma bloomed early as an idol

She never bloomed. She was uninteresting as fuck since the very beginning.

>>15635157
that's because there's no fat katomina picture.

>>15635151
finally some muramoto.

>>15634959
It's totally AKB's loss. She will be great in Keyaki

>>15635145
Not by choice.

>>15635162
No. Go read your dictionary.

>>15635164
She's extremely interesting and a dynamic idol that was perfect to center the group while it was getting off the ground

>>15635167
all of her pictures are fat katomina pictures because she's fucking fat

>>15635164
that's your opinion. The real world says otherwise.

>>15635168
>>15635151
Savior of AKB.

>>15635173
>She's extremely interesting and a dynamic
Again, no.

>not centering dream team

>>15635149
That also means it's a bit silly to say with such certainty that Ikoma was the only one who could have gotten the group to its current point. We have no way to know if that's true.

>>15635181
It's not up for debate, you're just wrong on this one

>>15635179
The real world says sales improved greatly once she didn't get the center position for the 6th single.

>>15635180
Numbers said otherwise

>>15635177
no, you're just blinded by hatred.

>>15635063
Neru is like a fusion of Ikoma and Slutringo.
A bit funny, but actually a bitch and real non virgin slut, also get PUSH a lot with 0 effort.

Also, everyone loves her.

>>15635183
There were probably a few other members who could have done it too. All I know is that it's silly to say for certain that Ikoma was the wrong choice.

>>15635063
About damn time. Let's see if she can make me oshihen from Techi.

>>15635180
The true savior of AKB is Ikoma, who managed to stall Nogizaka's progress for a good 1+ year.

>>15635183
It's not silly, because ikoma is, present tense, the one who did get nogizaka to where they are right now. you can look and see the fruits of the ikoma center and chart where they came from and where they are and see that it was the right choice

>>15635180

>>15635188
Do you have a source for those ominous numbers?

>>15635108
>acceptably fat
The fuck. It's never acceptable.

>>15635190
>non virgin slut, also get PUSH a lot with 0 effort.
>Also, everyone loves her.
In 46G???? unbelievable

>>15635190
Except nobody but akbfags who are threatened by Nogizaka's creation love Ikoma.

>>15635200
Muramoto is fucking fat.

Where's today's SHOWROOM rip ?

>>15635186
after ikoma had already gotten the group popular from the ground up

>>15635208
No. Stop calling my oshi fat

>>15635209
On aidoru-online.

>>15635209
Not Ikoma, who cares.

>>15635197
That's irrelevant to what I wrote.

>>15635186
your absolute certainty that that's the reason for the increased sales is enough to not take you seriously. You're biased beyond reason.

>>15635208
Why do you think he hates himself and every woman in his life?

>>15635213
HE'S FAT.

In 10 years from now people will talk about Ikoma who build the group and such like acchan and there's nothing you can do about it.

Ikoma is literally Adam Sandler. Yeah people know him, but ugghhhh do people really gonna watch his movies?

>>15635219
No it isn't. There's actual data supporting Ikoma as center whereas there's nothing of the kind with the other members

>>15635221
i saw that, you dreadful person.

>>15635221
he's just edgy like that.

>>15635226

I would rather watch his movies than read your awful sentence construction again.

>>15635224
You'll have to post a picture of muramoto in mizugi to prove that

>>15635211
You truly are retarded. All Ikoma did was stall the obligatory popularity that Nogizaka would've achieved regardless of who the center or the main girl at the beginning was.

The popularity is never under any doubt since they're created by AkiP and even billed as AKB's official rival.

>>15635225
Acchan didn't build the group.

>>15635206
>someone kicked because she has bf before joining
>recruit someone who don't even participated in final audition
>she's actually also a slut, but who cares, just replace a slut with another slut
>let's also give her special episode
>then give her a special song in 1st single
>make her has legit position in the group (member of 1st gen and possibly capt of 2nd gen)
>let's put her in 2nd row at 2nd single, and don't forget she must have more lines in the song than 1st row member
>hey, let's give her another song, this time is Solo Song with MV! Her voice isn't good ? who cares about that anyway

Feels good to be Neru tbqh famalam.

Daily Senbatsu Member

>>15635221
Muramoto is pretty cool. He takes a lot of pictures with fans, nip tarentos don't usually do that because muh privacy.

>>15635228
There's actual data that said sales jump almost 100k once the center was changed but you repeatedly chose to ignore that.

>>15635234
why would I save a picture of muramoto in mizugi? he's disgusting.
:^)

I wish I could use these stickers in this thread right now tbqh.

>>15635228
Still irrelevant. We have no way to know whether another member would have run the group into the ground or propelled it far past AKB. Or maybe nothing much would be different.

Risa is my bitch

>>15635244
As I've repeatedly said the hard part with a group is getting it off the ground when it's unknown and new, not making it more popular once it's already gotten a foothold

>>15634986
I wouldn't have put that pressure on Ituka, just look at what it did Ikoma's face. What if that happened to Ikuchan, oh wait.

>>15635216
Oh, nice, thanks my senpai.

>>15635225
10 years from now people will talk about the reason why Nogizaka ultimately failed to overtake AKB and that reason was the poor choices they made at the beginning by gori pushing Ikoma.

>>15635245
>he's disgusting
Stop being gay. He is cute and sexy.

>>15635236
Tell that to the other floundering sister groups who took their akip association for granted

Charismatic, talented, variety genius, best voice in 46G, Ikoma totally the face and soul of Nogizaka and permanent center.

>>15635226
Unfortunately, people still go and watch his movies even though they're awful. Just goes to show that people have shit taste.

>"center doesnt matter"

>AKB rose to fame when 2013 sasshit happened
/thread

>>15635258
nogizaka has already overtaken akb

>>15635251
Not irrelevant because Ikoma cannot be counted in the WHO KNOWS group, because we do know what an Ikoma center would lead to, since she did center, and it lead to success. The maximum their group was capable of, and from this we can deduce that any other girl would have been worse

>>15635262
She can't be the soul of nogozaka because she isn't a slut.

>>15635266
>AKB rose to fame
>in 2013
wat

>>15635268
KKK will soon overtake both nogi and akb

>>15635266

>that sasshifag who keeps on validating himself with "/thread" meme

Jesus have you no shame?

>>15635266
That's because memes matters

Future of Keyakizaka

>>15635162
There's a reason that chart has two axes.

>>15635254
As I've said getting popular is not a matter of who but simply a matter of time. They're created by AkiP and billed as the official rival of AKB in AKB's heyday. There was no way they would not get popular under those circumstances except in your fantasy. Ikoma simply stalled the popularity boost.

>>15635273
>nogozoka
>>15635255
>ituka

Go to sleep, SEA.

>>15635271
>The maximum their group was capable of, and from this we can deduce that any other girl would have been worse
Wow. We both know you can do better than that.

>>15635266
>2013
>sasshit
>Girls' Rule
So it wasn't Ikoma after all.

https://youtu.be/fmKDbwPx2xc?t=48s

If you think Ikoma wasn't cute here, then something's wrong with you.

>>15635261
They're still popular no matter what you want to think.

>>15635271
Yeah we do know that Ikoma stalled the popularity of Nogi. Any other member would've achieved better results.

>>15635258
>10 years from now people will talk about the reason why Nogizaka ultimately failed to overtake AKB

true true but keep pushing guys new gen gonna need some competence

>>15635280
Again, tell that to the other sister groups that aren't nearly as popular by themselves as nogizaka is. Association with akip is not a sure sign of popularity by itself

>>15635275
これ!
>T8 x KKK x NGT are the future

>>15635292
They're still popular no matter what you want to think. ~300k sales are signs of popularity no matter what you want to think.

>>15635287
/thread
/thread
/thread

>>15635289
They aren't as popular as nogizaka is, which is what matters. If anything you're making the point ikoma center is the sole reason for their success, since they were guaranteed NMB lvls from the beginning, to achieve vastly more than that must mean it was all thanks to their talent like ikoma

stop arguing and post elite MC murappi

10 years from now people will talk about how KKK managed to overtake AKB while Nogizaka failed to do the same. That reason is choosing the right girl to push in the beginning.

>>15635300
Popular, but not as popular as nogizaka which is the point here. If you're saying they were guaranteed 300k sales by now no matter what, then to have double that must be attributed to their own efforts and decisions, ikoma center included

>>15635308
worst center

I would, tbqh.

Delicious tears.

>>15635308
>tfw AKBingo is finally the best variety show again

>>15635315
how? their sales went up drastically after he centered.

>>15635306
They started to surpass NMB level from the point where Ikoma wasn't center anymore. Ikoma simply stalled Nogizaka's progression, as I've said repeatedly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZhBO6RwyxM

All these arguments. Majority of the Japan doesn't give a fuck about idols and if they do see some idol group the automatic association is "AKB48".

>>15635316
>>15635326
I wouldn't tell anyone, but... yeah, I would

>>15635314
Yeah, Ikoma center included in the reason why they took so long to be vastly superior to akb's sister groups.

>>15635320

They were perfect for each other. ;_;

I know about nogizaka thanks to Ikoma.

Nogi is shit, I only care about them is their latest PB

>>15635243
Please, everyone do that and Muramoto too much of a low tier to refuse.

I really wanna know what non-KKK dream team members' feel when they had to perform Silent Majority.

Sasshi will save AKB.

Ikodrones vs. Ikudrones

Whoever wins, we lose.

>>15635329
>the automatic association is "AKB48"

True and it's all thanks to Ikoma, who managed to severely limit Nogizaka's potential.

>>15635325
MORE COMPLAINTS THAN SASSHI'S VOTES.

>>15635327
Either their fame is a result of akip and the members don't affect it like you said early, or the members do affect it. You can't have both. If akip's name alone affects popularity and they all reach a certain height regardless, then Ikoma doesn't matter, but that doesn't explain them passing NMB as you say. So the members and decisions must affect popularity, and for nogizaka to have passed NMB, another akip associated sister group, it means nogizaka did something NMB didn't to warrant that extra popularity. That something was an Ikoma center

Ikoma did the 9/11

>>15635346
For the record, I'm not an Ikudrone. She's 7th on my list.

I wanna see T8 perform saimajo especially Honda with the chest pump choreo

Let's do this one day /akbg/ ;_;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ionAWZRj2P4

>>15635334
Ikoma is the only reason they're at where they are now

>>15635282
You really iku a little everytime you type SEA, don't you?

>>15635348
Based Ikoma.

>>15635338
Shakiism was great

I'm just going to post IkoMayu.

>>15635321
t.desperate Muramoto trying to keep his job.

>>15635360
>45st

>>15635360
Do something like those Knights of KTK topdogs did

>>15635358
Yeah but anon if you talk about an idol you're automatically a drone

This is Ikoma done right

>>15635355
I never said the members don't affect it, retard. I mean they would still achieve the initial popularity they got no matter who they pushed in the beginning, thanks to the association with AkiP. Ikoma simply stalled the progression of that popularity and once they wisen up and picked another center, the limiter was removed and they finally managed to start overtaking AKB's sister groups.

>>15635361
No, Manatsu is the one that pulled the group to success. Just look at how their sales went up after she joined.

Honestly I hope Muramoto never leaves AKBingo, I like how 46 variety shows are better in every aspect to the main 48 show.

Neru better not fuck up KKK

>>15635361
Ikoma is the only reason they still haven't got a million seller single.

>>15635382
That's not it works, there is no initial guaranteed popularity. Especially with a new group

>>15635392
Ikoma is the only reason they're as popular as they are now

>>15635330
sayanee can't wait to graduate

Everyone is sayin ikoma this ikoma that but no one is saying ashu fucked this guy or was raped by that other one.

>>15635360
Zettai iya.

>>15635394
>there is no initial guaranteed popularity

Except there is. Being associated with AkiP and AKB is a guarantee, no matter what your deluded mind wants you to believe.

>>15635382
you tell no lies

https://youtu.be/hv74rCduCa4

>>15635390
>Expecting Neru to not fuck things

>>15635394
I'm not even part of this discussion but that's just a ridiculous thing to say.

>>15635397
No. Ikoma is the only reason they achieved their current weak(relatively) popularity instead of potentially surpassing AKB if they had just picked another gori push at the beginning.

Drones still mad after all this time because Ikoma got popular easily with no effort appearing in tv and having CMs while the drone is still doing theater in fucking 2016.

>>15635401
>was raped by that other one.
wait what?

>>15635401
nogicucks love sluts after all

>>15635403
Either the center matters or it doesn't. If it does, then Ikoma is the reason nogizaka is more popular than NMB, them both being equal in terms of akip association. If it doesn't, then you can't really be saying Ikoma stunted their growth since it was guaranteed to begin with. You can't have it both ways

>>15635414
Again, being well known doesn't mean she's popular.

>>15635390
She's going to put KKK on her back and fuck her way to the top. She's the chosen one.

What with all this low tier bait? This is what happens when you don't post elite idols!

>>15635413
You consider largest and by far most popular sister group as weak popularity? Okay. Especially when all the other sister groups are hovering at about the same, nogizaka is nearly as popular as all of them combined. Yeah, I'm right there with you to blame ikoma for that

So much bad vibes in this thread

>372 posts
>36 posters
whelp
atleast you're not spamming images

>>15635432
>>15635423
>comparing Nogi to other sister groups

my sides

>>15635431

>>15635425
It's ok anon.

>>15635436
Those are normal numbers though

>>15635432
nogi isn't a sister group.

>>15635431
>team8 spam vs nogi discussion
>shit vs shit
I dunno f a m.

>>15635423
>being this stupid
I've said over and over that Ikoma stalled the guaranteed popularity, not voiding it. As in, they achieved level 2 in 2 years instead of 1 year thanks to Ikoma being ineffective. Put any other girl in Ikoma's place and they would've achieved level 2 faster.

Do you even know what stall means? No you don't.

>>15635430
Nice

>>15635438
pic unrelated

>>15635438
Sexy and cute!

>>15635432
Do you even know what relatively means?

>>15635437
>says ikoma stunted nogizakas growth
wrong ikoma established them as a group in the first place
>their popularity is guaranteed because of akip
then how come they're more popular than other sister groups with akips name? how come you say ikoma stunted their growth if their popularity was guaranteed?
>ha, comparing them to sister groups!

I can't keep up with all this slippery weasel behavior

>>15635433
Shitty English bait filled with bad edgy vibes and everlasting prise to Muramoto... Hmmm...

>>15635451
That's under the assumption something so stupid as guaranteed popularity exists. And if become as popular as all the sister groups combined is your idea of stalling, then I don't know what to tell you

>>15635459
damn she is really cute in that webm

>>15635436
Images in 4chan? Are you kidding me?

>>15635464
>prise

>>15635460
Relative to what, all of the groups combined included AKB itself? Fact is nogizaka can't be considered weak popularly in any sense

>>15635464
>prise
shitty english, indeed.

>>15635450
And the low tier bait never ends...

>this thread

>>15635445
It's just the speed, the thread was made two hours ago

>>15635092
Nogibingo1 Ikoma was seriously cute. The retarded shift in tone from 1 to 2 messed her up more than we thought.

>>15635470
>>15635476
See? This shit is smelly... Like your oshi.

COME ON GUYS

;_;

ENOUGH OF THIS SHIT

LETS TALK ABOUT SAKURA BEING FAT AGAIN

;_;

>>15635438
>>15635459
>>15635468
NO NO NO!

>>15635336
anyone measure their faces?

>>15635462
>ikoma established them as a group in the first place
Nope. Switch her with any other girl and they would've been established all the same, only considerably faster

>how come they're more popular than other sister groups with akips name?
Because they started to pick girls who are not Ikoma to be center

>how come you say ikoma stunted their growth if their popularity was guaranteed?
You clearly lack the ability to understand things. Stalling(because I never said stunting) their growth doesn't mean the popularity will not be achieved, they simply took longer to achieve.

>>15635485
jokes on you, my oshi is not muramoto

@15635485
If you've put "you're oshi" I would've given you a (You)

>>15635483
You're right, I was still thinking about how it was a couple months back.

>>15635482
poor yuihan, she probably wants to graduate too but can't because she just become the gm.

Drones mad because their oshi didn't build the group, you are just jelly that you can't say she literally started the group, that would be your oshi's dream, life is pain sometimes, history has been written, she built the group and nothing will change that.

This is the Apocalypse.
>bad boys leaves
>edgy faglord is the new host and obviously he have edgy fag wotas.
>banned elite idols
>46 is better than 48 in everyway.

Aki-p needs to get his shit together or else!!!

>>15635487

>>15635487

>>15635499
>>15635503
>>15635508
Not Ikoma who cares

>>15635501
PREACH!

>>15635508
48 is fucking disgusting.

>>15635467
Guaranteed popularity really exists and you're the stupid one if you don't believe that. Look at NGT, I guarantee you they will sell more than 100k once they finally release a single.

You also repeatedly sounded like you don't know what stall means. If they weren't stalled, they would've achieved their current popularity faster. You really need to go read your dictionary.

>>15635503
Yup. Brown nipples

>>15635151
I hope Muramoto comes to this thread and slap those nogi shit talkers with his hand and spit on their face.

>>15635490
>Nope. Switch her with any other girl and they would've been established all the same, only considerably faster
In the beginning there was no other girl that came close to Ikoma, she was the most capable by far
>Because they started to pick girls who are not Ikoma to be center
After ikoma had gotten them popular and secured a fanbase out of nothing
>You clearly lack the ability to understand things. Stalling(because I never said stunting) their growth doesn't mean the popularity will not be achieved, they simply took longer to achieve.
You're assuming they were guaranteed to reach super stardome. By what means? How did ikoma go about /stalling/ this mysterious destiny of theirs? If what you're saying is true, silly as it is, then Ikoma could not have affected them since their predestined popularity was going to reach whatever height it was going to regardless of her, or any other girl centering. What's more likely is what I'm saying, that nogizaka is the same as any other group that started with nothing, and with the help of ikoma they managed to carve out a fanbase from scratch while the other members matured

Merurusaurus = Ikoma
Herpes = Ikuta
Hackachan = "ashu"