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>>15578384
Are we talking "realistic dark" here, or is it okay if things just go into full grimderp mode?

>>15578397
Little bit of 'A' little bit of 'B'

zounose
ameyama denshin
tohonifun
kemonomichi

>>15578384
That's a pretty nice reference there.

I'd say Utsuho of the Void by Autumn Drizzle Shrimp is pretty dark, and it has some action as well. Asatsuki Dou has a lot of grimdark stuff if you want that.

>>15578896
Oh yeah i read that one before. Really liked that one

I like Touhou Adventure for action though it's more about comedy.
But since you mentioned Imizu you might want to check it out.

>>15578551
Zounose is pretty good save for the Sanae one, which blatantly violates canon for the sake of grimdark.

i really really like ameyama denshin. his alternate history stuff is great

>>15580873
You mean Dodo? He maybe made Suwako a bit too edgy but she indeed has her edgy side. Overall I think it's okay as far as Zounouse is concerned.

I like the part where a Dodo ended up in Gensokyo, whether the story meant to be true or not.

>>15580920
Yikes

>>15578384
That was an elegant yet plaintive story. Thank you for sharing it anon.

>>15578551
I actually enjoyed Ameyama Denshin's works

This is surprisingly good.

A fair amount of my recommendations have already been mentioned, so I'll try to keep things fresh and interesting.

>Johari Garden, by Cosmic
This one explores the (un)happy relationship of the Komeiji sisters. Gets real fuckin' metaphorical, and I really liked that. I particularly liked how the ending was left rather ambigous, but I'm not going to spoil anything.
>Love and Peace, by Shimadoriru
This explores Byakuren's past, and her current relations with humans and youkai. Because, see, she's a youkai nun who's friendly to both youkai and humans alike, which puts her on an interesting situation. Lots and LOTS of grimdark.
>Road of Recollection, by Fuantei
One day, Koishi finds herself in a strange place, where all the doors lead to people's dreams. She finds dreams of many people - One of such people, is her sister. This also explores the two sisters' relationship, and it's not nice once again. It's pretty depressing, at least that's how I felt about it.

>>15581527
What's that? It does look surprisingly good

>>15582021
>Road of Recollection, by Fuantei
Otherwise known as "Have You Ever Been So High That You Turned Into a Bunch of Doors?"

Don't get me wrong. I liked it. It's just that some artists take things too far.

>>15581149
I really liked them as well. You have to think of his works as derivative works of Touhou rather than doujinshi based on Touhou though, since the characters and the setting are wildly different than the original, but the characters are done well enough that I could stomach them just fine. His art style is obviously inspired by Tsutomu Nihei's works, and that's not everyone's cup of tea, however I really like that particular artstyle so I dig it. The action scenes were well-drawn as well. The plot was fairly simple but surprisingly interesting, but your mileage may vary.
To sum it up: Action scenes were very nice, so were the characterizations, the plot was breddy gud, art style is a love-it-or-hate-it thing. Ameyama's works are certainly worth a shot, if you ask me.

>>15582072
I dunno, I found that pretty neat instead of taking things too far in this case.

>>15582058
No One Is in the Scarlet Devil Mansion by Ichikai. It is surprisingly good. You should check out Ichikai's other works as well, he loves to do dark and depressing doujinshi.

>>15582021
Also, two more recommendations that I forgot.

>Immortal, by Fuantei
It's about Mokou's past. Mokou's past is not a happy one as we all know, so I guess that should give you a rough idea of what you can expect.
>Passion For Your Sake, by Jiroo
Marisa learns that her time has come, to become a youkai magician. However, she also learns the hard way, that becoming a youkai magician is way harden than it sounds. Rough times await her.

Who was the author of the one where they eat Sakuya's leg at the end? it was surprisingly good and tasteful despite the premise.

>>15582238
It's one of Zounose's. The artstyle is pretty characteristic.

>>15582242
Ah, thanks anon.

>>15578896
Read it some years ago. Man, love when the action kicks in

So how many doujins about Myouren temple's backstory and which one is the best?

DeLorean where Byakuren goes to the past also count.

>>15581527
Can you post a few more pages?
Interesting artstyle, I like it.

>>15578384
Kisume is a filthy youkai and would heal an injury like that in no time. Don't trust her unless you want your head chopped off.

>>15583842
Love & Peace if you don't mind extra edginess.

>>15583885
I've read that.

It's 2edgy4me.

>>15583867
I don't have a time to dump it, though.
I'll just post few pictures.

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>>15580925
No he's referring to the one in which Moriya shrine partakes in a human sacrifice (which is completely stupid considering their religious background).

>>15583920
This wont end well, especially for Sakuya.
Picked up anyway for the dark artstyle.

Hungry Tiger where Shou "unknowingly" ate Nazrin's stomach.

>>15583938
Name?

>>15584964

Kaminare

Does this count?

>>15578384
Try Battle Royal,it's a story of how the strongest Touhou characters gets teleported to a dimension,and have are force to kill each other

>>15585421
Almost everything are fanfiction tier but I admit it has its moments.

Seiga's Wild NTR Ride, or also known as Soga no Tojiko Will Not Talk

The second to last chapter just got put on sadpanda.

>>15580925
>I like the part where a Dodo ended up in Gensokyo, whether the story meant to be true or not.
Funny thing is that little bit isn't without basis.

I think there was a CoLA chapter which talked about extinct animals also ending up in Gensokyo and used a type of insect and Ibis as a example.

>>15578384
Canni-can

>>15583920
I love to draw ugly scary 2hus, but no one likes them. this one style is really beautiful, I'm surprised someone else on /jp/ appreciates

>>15585703
Why are there tons of Buddhist backstory doujin but so few of the Taoists?

>>15590387
The Taoists are well documented historical characters who have also had the misfortune of being dead between Shotoku's era and 2013.

>>15585703
Futo being Tojiko's foster mother doesn't seem right to me.

She's based on not just one person, you know.

>>15582087
I just realized he's the guy who made those insane reimu comic

>Maid and the Bloody Pocket Watch byVISIONNERZ
Sakuya's humanity is something Remilia wants to get rid of, even by force.
>Two by this side, Three by the other by Personal Color
Yukari recollects about the tragic young Yuyuko of her past while becoming distant from the present day Yuyuko who is desperately trying to find the truth.
>Happiness and Happy End by Asatsuki Dou
A story about Koakuma reaching her limit of being disregarded. Alot of this artists other works are popular grimdarks as well.

Any grimdark doujin about Seija or Shinmyomaru yet?

>>15593473
Yep, he made that comic. And boy,I tell you what, that comic was some shit.
Also, I must state again that I really like the particular art style he uses for his doujinshi. It's really good, frankly.

>>15594142
There's Grief Orb by Carcharias. I wouldn't call it grimdark but I thought I should mention it anyway.
It's a doujin in which a very strong youkai, a literal false sun, appears. It seems like an unwinnable fight - But Seija, true to her nature, decides that that's not the case. The pacing is strange and the ending is rather abrupt, and it's drama but a little wierd sort of drama. You might not enjoy this.

>>15593008
>Futo being Tojiko's foster mother doesn't seem right to me.
While the difference between foster and biological mother is a bit blurry, there are too many parallels pointing to Futo being Futsuhime. Here's a short list:
>Futo's backstory mentions her assisting in the toppling of the Mononobe by allying with the Soga clan
>Sushun-tenno, the emperor instated by the Soga after their victory over the Mononobe at Shigisan, had a wife
>the wife was Futsuhime, "Mononobe no Moriya's younger sister"
>Soga no Umako later had Sushun pre-emptively assassinated for threatening to assassinate him (yeah, it's silly)
>Soga no Umako's last wife was said to be a "younger sister of Mononobe no Moriya"
>one of Umako's daughters was Toziko no Iratsume, later consort to Shotoku Taishi, who succeeded
If Futo is assumed to be Futsuhime, whom we assume the wife of Emperor Shushun then later Soga no Umako, that places her close to both the Soga clan after the Mononobe's defeat, explains why she was spared after Shigisan and married to Shushun-tenno, and also how she may have later (after Shushun's death) been married to Soga no Umako. This in turn would have put her close to Emperor Suiko and Prince Taishi, who served him.

Additionally, it gives Futo more than enough of a motive to take revenge on one of Soga no Umako's daughters - something that is really mysterious and blurry in Touhou itself.

>>15595533
>who succeeded
Who didn't succeed shit. That's what I get for changing a sentence in the middle of writing.

>>15595533
Well yeah, it's just not my preference to see Futo entirely as Futsuhime since I remember Moriya as another little brother and Futsuhime wasn't the one who go around burning temples, and it's not like Tojiko treat her like her mother or old lady in canon.
Also, I thought her grudge came from clan rivalry (and from losing the war but maybe this is baseless claim) so I assume she was never a traitor.

But I agree, there are so much nod to Futsuhime so to depict her as the figure in doujin works is understandable.

Though, if we are to speculate canon it'll be even a harder thing to pull off that conclusion, just like Kanako.

>>15595633
>>Also, I thought her grudge came from clan rivalry (and from losing the war but maybe this is baseless claim) so I assume she was never a traitor.
In Ten Desires' Extra Story it is said that Futo was approached by Miko even before the Mononobe-Soga war. Futo was to execute Miko's plan by allying herself with the Soga clan and converting them to Buddhism, starting the war in the first place. Miko required the Soga to win in order to "keep citizenry pacified" through Buddhism, while working on his shikai behind the scenes.

So yeah. Futo is, unfortunately, a traitor. She betrayed her clan by allying herself with the Soga, potentially betrayed them again at Shigisan to ensure Miko's plan would succeed, and then betrayed Soga no Umako and Toziko no Iratsume by messing up Toziko's shikai.

>>15595693
That's true. Maybe what I meant to say is she was not a traitor as much as Futsuhime but still a traitor regardless.
He were probably still loyal to Mononobe at some point but her loyalty to Miko is much greater and choose to abandoned her clan, but that doesn't mean she was comfortable with the Soga back then.

But that's just what I thought. It should be taken with a grain of salt.

>>15595748
You got that backwards. Futsuhime was only named as Emperor Shushun's wife and Mononobe no Moriya's younger sister. It's Futo who is described as "pulling strings" behind the scenes in Ten Desires' extra story. If there is a source of treachery here, it's Futo's (fictional) allegiance and actions under Miko. Officially, the Soga just won the decisive battle at Shigisan naturally.

>>15595804
There is a source or speculation that said Futsuhime pushed Moriya off the cliff killing him and was the key to Mononobe's defeat and Soga's victory, which was planned since the beginning. That's what I heard.
I think she was far more treacherous,

>>15595842
I can't find such a source, but I did find this, which is infinitely more amusing.
http://www.mfa.org/collections/object/prince-sh%C3%B4toku-kills-mononobe-no-moriya-sh%C3%B4toku-taishi-mononobe-no-moriya-ch%C3%BBbatsu-no-zu-463540

>>15595889
Is that picture damaged or is he really shooting 17 Articles lasers there?
What the fuck.

>>15596042
What do you know, HM/ULiL were actually based on historical events.

>>15596199
Occult Balls were real?

Ow the edge

>>15593551
To add to your post, I recently read To That Place Hidden in White, Two Pairs of Footprints (wow that's a long title) by Personal Color, one of the artists you mentioned.
It's just some good ol' drama, starring Remilia and Sakuya. I thought it was really nice. Nothing too amazing happens in the doujin, but I was filled with warm feelings in the end.