/jp/ - Otaku Culture

In a scale of 0 - 10 how shitty is the anime?

>>15554400
Haven't watch it/10

>>15554400
Endless nine

>monochrome clock starts playing
>enjoying it a lot
>"turn that crap off Amakusa."
w-well, f-fuck you too Ange.

>>15554436
I think Ryukishi likes that song too since it shows up again in both Rose Guns Days and Higanbana.

Hay, it's that guy from the previous thread. I’ve gone away and had a think. This is surmised off guess work, repeated ‘BUT WAIT’ moments, and some wishful thinking. I’m going to go back and re-read 1-4 to try and test out these theories.

Bare in mind that I think that magic is bullshit. Magic is cruelty, it is suffering, it is endless greed, it is childlike denial of reality, it is merciless, and it is evil. Anything that crops up in a magical scenes, I’m going to regard as unreliable narrator. Pretty much most things that Beatrice says, I’m also going to regard as unreliable unless they are said in red. Although for some of these theories to work, a physical person called Beatrice has to be on the island, so it’s not definitive that all Beatrice appearances are fake outs. Also remember that my theories at the minute are pretty rough, I haven’t worked through the case. That and Battler has so far been less than Ace Attorney about getting Beatrice tied up, as such I’m going to trust what he observes, but really he’s wrong so fucking often I can only assume he’s there to lead the players off the scent.
With that said here we go;

>The imposter theory
One of these things is not like the other; someone on the island has been murdered and replaced by Beatrice. This could have happened either before October 4 or during it, with the murder happening before the first twilight. This would also mean that Beatrice dies in character as an imposter, so for this theory we have to pick Beatrice out each time. It might be that different characters are impersonated each time before the first twilight. To prove this, I’m going to have to do a shitton of research, so right now it’s pretty thin on the ground.

>The split-personality theory
This one’s partially because this is one of my favourite tropes, partially because of something the witch EVA did. When she was using the Red truths like a machine gun, she mentioned Eva as something separate from herself in the Red. But she didn’t mention herself, or her child self which eventually became a witch. So I guess the question is; if someone had a split personality like Eva, but they were hiding it, would the Red show it? Not unless Battler directly asked (being the fucking idiot he is, he doesn’t). I actually believe at some point Battler does ask something like “Someone else with a split personality did it, like Eva!”, but Beatrice doesn’t perfectly answer him with something like “No-one else on Rokkejima has a split personality”, she says just dismisses that by physically eliminating it.
If we had to put a candidate up for a split personality, I’m putting up Rosa. I’m essentially saying that she’s hiding Beatrice inside her. My reasoning for this begins in 1967- she’s the only one of the Ushiroyma to see Beatrice other then Kinzo and to meet…whoever the fuck that was. It may have just been her as a little girl imaging things, or maybe she did actually kill the girl Kinzo was imprisoning. Then, wracked with guilt, created ‘Breatrice’. This actually has some more going for it, Rosa sometimes flies into a rage which seems pretty out of character/out of nowhere, and Maria calls her the ‘Bad witch’. Maybe the ‘Good’ Witch Beatrice is in there too, and comes out whenever they are at the Ushiroyma conference, when Rosa remembers Beatrice? That and Rosa must subconsciously know a shitton about the occult just from dealing with Maria all day. So she would be able to do drawings in Hebrew and the like. Also significant is that it’s Maria who recognises all of it, because she’s seen it before. It could be that Rosa just copies what she remembers from dealing with Maria’s magic.
But the Split-personality theory could work with any of the others characters (minus Battler), if my theory with the Red thing is true. Hell, maybe the Ushiroyma family’s blood has some defect that causes it? Or perhaps Kinzo is the king of being a shitty father, and he accidently damaged his children so badly more than one have a Split-personality?

>The Maria theory
Now this one is a little far thatched. Basically, Maria + X is Beatrice. Whoever carried out the murders, they need to have a superficial knowledge of the occult. Magic isn’t real, but you don’t just learn how to write down Hebrew on the fly. Someone masquerading as Beatrice has duped Maria into aiding them kill everyone. But this requires Maria’s help, so whoever has been pretending to be Beatrice has been buttering Maria up at the family conference for years. I’ve only recently thought of this one, so it’s going to need some more development.

And there we have it, my initial theories. I’ll repeat that I haven’t put them to the grindstone yet of proving each of the cases and defeating each of the Closed rooms using this theory. But I have an idea of where I am going, so hopefully with a re-read I can comeback with a definitive theory with proof up the ass.
I will acknowledge that I’m basically not suspecting any of the grand-children here (expect tangentially Maria), but I basically can’t envision a scenario in which they are the killers. The rest seem fair game though (apart from Kumasawa, she’s too old to do any of this shit).

I still don’t know what happens that kills Battler at 24:00 at October 5th, Or what Battler did in 1980 that Beatrice is so ass hurt over. I’m going to need to figure these out to come to any satisfactory answer about who Beatrice is.

>>15554507
>>15554514
Whoops, missed one.

>The furniture conspiracy
This theory goes something like this- Beatrice isn’t a person, but a group of people. You can probably guess who I am implicating here, Genji, Shanon and Kanon. They all believe in Beatrice being alive, they all buy Kinzo’s occultism, they are all familiar with it, and they all believe they are furniture who need to pass onto the ‘Golden land’. Practically, they all know the mansion inside and out, all have master keys, all are trusted (especially Genji) and all can move about in the mansion with little to no suspicion. As a group, they explain quite a few of the problems. Although practically there may be a few grey areas. Although this ‘group’ logic could apply to other characters, like a faction of the Ushiromiya family (say Rudolf, Eva and Rosa ganging up on Krauss as one possible example), Genji Shanon and Kanon are the most associated with the occult nature of the murders whilst being able to carry them out. This theory could hold that Nanjo and Godha are also involved, but since they are less into the occult I suspect them less.

>>15554514
Tl;dr

>>15554522
What if Beatrice is everyone on the island?
They`re all in together to troll Battler.
None of the murders are actually real. They just have access to a hollywood grade makeup artist and maybe a pile of fake bodies.

Warning: You must be over the age of Episode 7 to view this post

Is my understanding of magic correct? What I took from it is that magic is basically a shared delusion between two or more people. As long as at least two people believe in it, that magic can be seen as "real". Maria and Beatrice needed to form Marriage Sorciere in order to help reinforce each others' magic.

I think the Gold Truth is also a representation of this kind of magic. Ange is able to use the Gold Truth to contradict Bern's Red Truth and declare that everyone is still alive, and it works because that gold truth is a sacred unbreakable delusion shared by her and Battler. That's why she is able to visit everyone in the Golden Land at the end of ep8.

>>15554631
The gold truth is just a guarantee of having reached the answer without having to tell others

>>15554646

Yeah that's the official explanation, but I always got the feeling that there was some kind of double meaning behind the meta concepts in the game.

Post your Ougon Musou Kyoku teams

410/Evatrice or 410/Jessica here

>>15554728
Where can you get this game? Is it on PC?

>>15554739
Yes, it's for PC. I don't know where you can buy it anymore outside of Japan, but there are probably torrents on nyaa if that's your preference.

>>15554739
Yes

The online community is of, at most 10 players, though.

I think the west played it more than Japan in the end

classic fighting games are the cancer that are killing fighting games

>>15554522
So, are you going to move on to ep5 or are you going to stew for a year until it gets on steam?

>>15554804
Nah fuck that I'm going to do Chiru after I replay 1-4 and test out the theories.

>>15554810
Hoh, that's an interesting individual.

I like you anon, I'm also gonna be watching over your progress in here.

>>15554400
If you just consider it for the new good content it added it's real fucking nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP896Z370Oo
Most underrated Umineko song ever. Easily in my top 3.

>>15553902
>I'd been cool to have every character of the family a moment to kick-ass, and, particularly, I think Nanjo, Hideyoshi, Gohda, Krauss, Kumasawa and Genji were the ones who had less protagonism of the bunch.
>But I think the best part is what you said earlier, having a fight or some other type of scene that actually fits in the story, like a supposed Nanjo VS Kyrie in EP 7

I agree. Some of the characters really got neglected in terms of getting cool scenes. I'll definitely write some fight scenes and post them periodically in these threads in the future. And yes, I agree with your agreeing with me about the scenes actually happening in the story, and I'll try and make the scenes work in that way.

Fucking savage

Anyone else getting a bit sick of this anon pretending he's reading Umineko for the first time? Some of you seem to like it and indulge him, but why? Just to relive the story from the start through the eyes of a newcomer? That would be fun I suppose, yes, but this anon obviously has read Umineko before or has atleast gotten so many spoilers from these threads alone. It's all a facade, so why even reply to him?

>>15554400
It gave us Damedame subs so it was worth it

beato

>>15554728
B.Battler/B.Battler and Lambda/Lambda.

>>15555943

I want EVAtrice to be my mommy!

>>15556149
I want her to stick her staff in my butt and call me useless!

>>15556168
This exact quote, except I want it to be Battler.

>>15556073

10/10

>>15556168
>>15556172
I'm getting slightly aroused. I wonder if writer-anon would write some porn next.

>>15556073
>>15556178
Quick, everybody Paint your favourite/random character from memory. No looking at sprites.

>>15556185
Genji brandishing his knife

>>15556185

>>15556185
Can you guess the scene?

I suck at these

can someone explain in episode 3 tips the "patterns" beatrice makes? also how she was revived as a personification of the rules in ep 6

So how many months will it be until the voice patch for 1-4 is done?

>>15556797
Post the tips.
The pattern is more obvious in ep 3. What is different before and after solving the epitaph? The main significant change.
Answer : Beatrice kills people in closed rooms. The 2nd murderer does not.

>>15556797
Post the tips.
The pattern is more obvious in ep 3. What is different before and after solving the epitaph? The main significant change.
Answer : Beatrice kills people in closed rooms. The 2nd murderer does not.

>>15556873
Endless nine.

>>15554485
It really fits the style of Rose Guns Days.

>>15554728

Rosa and Virgilia

Ultimate MILF team

where do you guys live

I want to play omk

>>15557420
I live on the moon.

>>15557420
I'm in the US. I don't know about tonight but I would love to play this with some people. I'm not much of a fighting game person and I'm using a keyboard, but I'd love to play sometime.

>>15557589
we'd have unplayable lag I think

I also have to reinstall it first

>>15556185

>>15556185

>>15558191
Make a Hamburger.

>>15558256
What do you like about her?

>>15558256
I forgot a lot of details. My memory is terrible.

>>15558285
While all the other witches are cruel psycho bitches, her appearing as a gentle and encouraging older mentor won me over a bit. Even after what happens at the end of Episode 3. Having her eyes open and looking extra mischievous is still bonus points. She seems so soft and relaxed.
And I like her hat and hime cut.

>>15557764
Yuropoor here. I have past experience with melty, 13.2 and UNIEL, though never played Ougon before. If you give me like two days after whatever date to just master some BnBs, I'll be good to go
Is the netcode in Ougon legit enough in general or should I expect another pre-CCCaster AACC tier delay?

>>15558355
That's probably because she's not a real witch and no one co-signed her acceptance of being a witch.

>>15558451
>real witch
>real
>witch

How old is Rosa? I first imagined she was around 35 but in episode three they say she was in middle school 20 years prior, and she was acting pretty young in the flashback with her and Beatrice. Could she really be in her late 20's?

>>15555626
Kanon is pretty fucking savage in general. I forget exactly what Shannon said, but she was she was also pretty savage when she went to serve Beatrice her food later in that episode.

>>15558519
>middle school 20 years prior
In Japan, middle school is from age 12 to 15, so she would be at least 32

>>15558551
>In Japan, middle school is from age 12 to 15

Oh yeah, I forgot to consider that. Thanks anon.

>>15558470
She's not a real witch like Bernkastel or Lambda, yeah.

>>15556603
>read it
>Dlanor's voice automatically comes in the head
How does she DESS like that?

Any idea why the CGs are disabled in the Steam version? Do you think they will ever be enabled by default in a patch?

Pic related.

What is your favorite Ushiromiya family /jp/?
Mine's Rosa-Maria.

>>15558900
Maybe they didn't have time to implement them correctly before the release date? I assume they'll patch them in eventually since they're already in the files, it wouldn't make sense to just leave them there without using them

>>15555930
Let him play. Don't we always do the same, making stupid questions and pretending to be retarded for the only sake to bump the thread and keep the interest alive?
Who knows? Maybe anon is being honest and never really read the VN, of course I'm sure he know the answers already, at least the most important ones. It's hard to avoid spoilers on this place, and the last thread had a LOT.
>>15556185
Okay.

>>15558900
Maybe they're planning to make them dlc.

>>15558900
Those all look like Chiru CGs to me.

>>15559131
They're in the game's files already.

>>15559151
They're still Chiru CGs, so it's normal that they don't show up anywhere.

>>15559157
It has CGs for all the Episodes, but none of them are used

>>15559157
The issue is that none of the CGs show up normally.

>>15558900
How do you enable them?

>>15559190
https://www.mediafire.com/?ebkbiq5abb987

Replace the 0.utf in the game folder with this 0.utf

>>15559223
Nice, thanks

>>15556185
Nailed it.

>>15556185
Well, I will just re-post my Battler from that other thread then (you guys seem to have liked it in any case).

>>15559395
It looks more like a fat neckbeard NEET with hair growth problems and the eye of an egyptian deity than god, but I did my best.

>>15559370
Beautiful.
Don't worry, Genji is here for you now (I'm also from the original paint thread).

>>15559447
You mean that's not what god is?

Is there a fix for the glitches I have in Cross? Lambda and Bern's throws are completely glitched and break the game if they end a match and the other player is free to move around while being thrown. One of Will's special attacks also cannot be used to end a round without breaking the game.

>>15560137
Never seen that problem. Are you updated to the latest patch? Using an installed version or no?

>>15560139
I installed it a long time ago with what I thought was the latest patch. That's how I had Bern and Lambda.

>>15556797
pls respond

>>15560487
Didn't understood the question, printscreen the parts you got in doubt, please (this always helps).

>>15558967
That's adorable

Why does no one like him again?

>>15559447

I'm reading the Umitweak version for the first time as I felt like re-reading Umineko. When is the first CG? I thought this version had CGs but I haven't seen anything yet.
Also roughly how many CGs are there in there per game?

>>15560683
I think spooky Maria eyes is the first CG
It happens after the first twilight I think

>>15560692
>after the first twilight
I can't remember, but I think there's a CG before that, when they find the bodies in the shed

>>15560653
Because shitting on him has become a running joke.

>>15560653
Because even before the actual revelation of his jerkass and egocentric behaviour, people already suspected and with in mind joked about him being a fake person, based on his dialogue up to that point.

>>15560653
Because he's fucking shit

>>15560739
>...people already suspected that, and with this in mind, joked about him being...

sorry for that, tried to correct the phrase and ended up sending it before double checking it.

Umineko steam edition torrent when?

>>15558903
All of them have individuals I dislike. Battler's family sans Rudolf and Kyrie's willingness to butcher everyone like they did would probably be best to me as a whole unit. My favorite aunt is Eva, my favorite uncle is Hideyoshi, and my favorite grandkid is probably Battler, but Jessica seems cool too aside from being a stubborn cunt.

>>15560740
How could you say that to your own son?!

>>15560776
Hopefully never, let Manga Gamer have their well deserved money, and maybe we get Iwaihime next

>>15560806
I want a PC port of Ookami Kakushi too, if possible. You know if they accept these kind of requests depending of the demand?

>>15560780
Get the fuck back in my womb Joji

>>15560834
I've had it with you, Okaasan. You can get my Super Ultimate Mega Special Joji Kick up your womb!

>>15560830
>PC port of Ookami Kakushi
That's probably never going to happen. I never see people talking about it, so I don't think there's much demand for it

>>15560499

>>15560834
>>15560869
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HJKJxQRmgc

>>15560899
I believe it's referring to locked rooms.

>>15560499

also this.. i don't understand how she was reborn by the rules and how she was created to serve battler

>>15560937
The Beatrice that Battler knew, based on the gameboard and its background, was the result of trauma, "1000 years" of it. Battler can't just create a fresh Beato without all of that, and so the innocent Chick Beatrice, who has yet to go through the pain required to turn into Beatrice, was created. Big Sis Beatrice is the witch legend and lore without the trauma or Chick Beatrice's humanity.

Editorfag here. Just thought I'd post an update about the nude Bernkastel edit I promised last thread. It's been taking a lot longer than I'd initially hoped, and I'm still not fully satisfied with the current results, but it's finally getting somewhere. On the plus side, I've decided to do the Lambda edit at the same time, and it's proving to be much less of a hassle. I'm not sure how big to make her breasts though, so I've shown 2 options (I could always just do both)

I'm hoping to finish both pieces by tomorrow night. Due to the uncertainty about her chest, Bern will have 3 pieces; One will be flat, one will have smallish breasts (shown here), and one will be busty.

Any feedback is greatly appreciated. If something looks weird (other than parts that are clearly unfinished) let me know and I'll see if I can fix it.

>>15561019
The smaller the better imo

>>15561074
How's this then?

>>15561122
It's pretty nice like that, go for it, editor anon
(I would prefer an almost flat Lambda, but that would be just me being biased and unfair to the source)

>>15561153
I mean, I could probably make a flat version for you if you'd like. It wouldn't be too hard, and I'm already doing it for Bern.

>>15561163
Oh, I would for sure gladly accept that
Thanks, anon

>>15560967
how could battler recreate beato to begin with? im not really understanding what the rules are.

Do you think Kinzo ever gave in to his desire and masturbated to the Beatrice portrait in his study?

>>15561167
Something this size alright with you?

>>15561216
I'm still convinced that the green stuff the servants pour him isn't absinthe but actually lube. They usually leave Kinzo alone to "enjoy" his drink afterwards. The shouts of "BEATORIIICHEEEE!!!" they can hear from outside the study are interpreted by the servants as Kinzo getting drunk and lamenting his past, but it's actually him lubing up and spraying his own brand of paint on the portrait.
It would explain the awful stench in the study that several characters comment on.

>>15561235
It all makes sense now.

>>15561225
Not that anon, but that seems to fit lambda way more.

>>15561216
>>15561235
>>15561245

>>15561225
Anon from before here, it's perfect!

>>15561249
Depends on the artist. The Steam sprite used as the base clearly has medium-sized breasts.

>>15561280
I'm glad you like it. I'll include this variation in the final version then.

>>15561188
Just imagine the other meta-side of the story (in this case, Rokkenjima Prime).

You just need to remember the whole context with Tohya at Episode 8

>>15561216
>>15561235
>>15561252
I wouldn't put it past Kinzo.

EP8
What happens if you miss the culprit in bern's game? Too lazy to go back and check it out.

>>15561304
Nothing, they let you try again until you get it

>>15561304
It will play the next hint each time you get it wrong. The final hint reveals the answer.

http://steamspy.com/app/406550
Doesn't seem to be selling nearly as well as the first Higurashi chapter did. Wasn't really expecting it to either though

>>15561396
Umineko does have a higher price, even if it is four episodes bundled together.

Anyone know the typeface for the original vn text?

>>15561019
That Bern body really feels weird, doesn't remind of the original's that gives a "proud" vibe with the bust high up, while here it's pretty much the opposite, the pose is a bit titled. Aside from the fact original looks like an hourglass body, which would have been nice to put. Maybe I should give a try myself to do a Bern sprite that feels more like the original and less loli-like.

You're quite dedicated with this whole nude sprites thing, but it's still hard to deny your anatomy skills aren't exactly living up to it. Looks especially cheap when you add a pussy and nipples.

>>15561451
Yeah, like I said, I'm not really happy with how Bern's turning out either. I've already tried several times but I just can't seem to get the outline of her body right. The angle she's standing at keeps throwing me off.

But I'm still learning, so hopefully I'll get better. How would you recommend I improve? What specifically is wrong with my anatomy?

>>15561019
>>15561451
Bernkastel's body looks like a ragdoll or a disformed barbie.
I think you'd need to extend her shoulders more to the left.

>>15561225
Small but perky. It's perfect.
As Jin once said, it's not the size of the breast but the shape.

>>15561451
>>15561979
Okay. So based on you're suggestions I reworked Bern's frame a bit. I tried to make her look more like the original sprite with a high bust and more of an hourglass figure. I'm not sure whether or not this would be called a success, but at the very least I think it made the angle look better.

>>15562346
Well, it's an improvement for sure.
Hmmm.

Oh I know, can you try to make the head a little bit smaller?

>>15562484
How's this?

>>15562528
I honestly can't tell the difference.

>>15560806
This. I'd say that future localization of ryuukishi VNs depends a lot on the success of Higurashi and Umineko.

>>15562562
Here. From left to right, 100%, 95%, 90% original size.

>>15562613
Ah, I see. Far right is better overall.
I think it looks good.

>>15562613
They all look the same to me.

>>15562682
Alright, thanks for the input. Is there anything else that needs to be fixed? Otherwise I'll start finishing up this version.

Also, I'll be doing 3 versions of varying bust size. Should the size shown here be used for the medium version or the large version?

>>15562700
I think you need glasses anon

>>15562723
No, I think the far right version is better overall and fits with the body. Reducing the size of the head probably fixed the issue and looks good now.

>>15562723
Also, while you're at it, can you reduce the size of Maria's head by 5-10%?
I think all the heads are too oversized.

>>15562802
I think Maria's head is meant to be that big since she's a child, but whatever. Here you go.

>>15562890
Absolutely perfect. This is much much better.

>>15562890
I much prefer the one on the left compared to the right.
It makes Maria look much more human. There's really something about having the head proportional to the rest of the body that has an effect on the appreciation of the art.

https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2097543

Also, if you have a chance, could you also reduce Lambda's head by 5-10% as well? Not now, but whenever you're done with the body.

>>15562943
Sure

>>15562943
>>15562977
> deleted

R34 doesn't accept loli you know. Just post it on a site that doesn't make it visible to anyone that get a direct link.

>>15563307
Any website to recommend other than uguu?

>>15563312
imgur maybe?

>>15563337
Eh, I guess.

http://imgur.com/a/d4dUk

What d you think?

>>15563346
That outfit is dangerous.

>>15563402
It's perfect, isn't it?
The panties create the perfect amount of innocence and the thing around her waist, which was always part of her original design, created a lewd layer around her hips.
I'm still unsure whether Maria should keep her stockings/socks. Bare legs sounds more innocent, no?

>>15563346
I like the Sakutarou panties

>>15563537
Me too!
I'm trying to think of lewd outfits to make most of the cast wear. It's rather fun.

Got bored, decided to work a bit on Bernkastel's outfit. While I know that the body isn't entirely finished and it's missing color on her upper torso, not to mention she's missing an arm, I felt that I should still mess around.

How does it look?

>>15563471
It depends. Bare legs would compliment the panties, but stockings would compliment the corset.

>>15563537
I'm glad they turned out okay.

>>15563584
How's this one?
http://imgur.com/a/6ME1S

>>15563680
Looks nice. I need hurry and finish the Bern and Lambda nudes so that we can come up with more lewd outfits.

>>15563690
>How's this one?
I like it. Maria's magical outfit is a one piece, so I don't think there's anything more that could have been done without designing the entire outfit.
I think I prefer the left over the right, since you can't really see well through the see through cloth.

Personally, I would have loved to see Maria naked but with the string of bows along with that thing around her neck. Something like pic related.
My drawing skills are horrible but I'm sure you get what I'm trying to show.

(You)mineko

Anyone here remembers the Ryukishi version of this background?

Boy, what the hell was that supposed to be

>>15563680
Huh. It's funny no one has ever made that joke
You're my neko.

Removed some of the artifacts and showed more of Bernkastel's hips.
It's somewhat weird to not see her curves. She looks like a wooden board.

>>15563767
Meant for >>15563762

>>15563771
have some old bernie kastels fanart

Oh for Christ's sake! God... dammit, nerds. Wtf are you guys doing today? Jesus.
>>15560568
Thanks.

>>15563737
I get it. I'll see what I can do.
In the meantime, here's another piece I made. I tried building off of your idea with the corset. Let me know what you think.

http://imgur.com/a/WfnLo

>>15563820
Oooooh, I love it. Very innocent but lewd at the same time. This makes her seem elegant with a slight tease.

>>15563820
You're very bored, aren't you?

>>15563830
Can someone be bored if they're having fun?

>>15563835
Touché. Okay, you win.

>>15563838
I always win.

>>15563842
Oh... it's you. Forget I said anything.

Would Lambda be better with the pumpkin or without it?

Seacats, I love you all! I hope your lives are well!

>>15563852
Oh...it's you!
You used that image with the same filename a few threads back. Don't throw bricks in a glass house. Let's just discuss and have fun without shaming namefags. Esp if you were one.

>>15563865
I like the pumpkin. I initially thought it was an ugly part of her design but now I like the whimsical-ness of it. It fits Lambda, somehow. You took the effort to cut it out, so why not keep it? You're the artist. Tailor to what you think looks best.
And I appreciate all the effort you've been putting in. I like seeing your progress posts and responses to feedback.
This is lame, but seeing another Anon consistently putting in effort and making something that looks great really inspires me. It makes me feel like I could make something too, if I wanted. So thanks for your hark work and keep it up!

>>15563835
>>15563842
That's a positive outlook on life! I like it!

>>15563890
I don't love you, but I do like you. I hope you the best as well.
>>15563898
Sorry, you're not the person I thought you were. I'm leaving.

>>15563916
I'm not Rikafag, I just recognized your reaction image (why is it a gif when it's a static image?) and cut in.
Sorry for intruding on your conversation, I just got nosy. Excuse me.

>>15563921
No problem. Have fun.

Gohda is moe
Prove me wrong
PROTIP: you can't

>>15563925
Y-you too.

>>15563932
Nope, I can't.

>>15563921
>why is it a gif when it's a static image?
Keep watching. It does move.

>>15563911
Haha, thanks. One must always be extremely positive to hide the cynicism.
It is the way of duality.

>>15563910
Thanks. That means a lot. Now if only I could apply myself like this to something besides porn. I'll be pushing to get Bern and Lambda finished tonight, so I hope you'll look forward to it.

>>15563910
>I initially thought it was an ugly part of her design but now I like the whimsical-ness of it. It fits Lambda, somehow. You took the effort to cut it out, so why not keep it?
Yeah you're right. It's the reason I wanted to keep it but the pumpkin makes more sense on clothes rather than just on her body.
Adding these little dots was a pain in the add as well.

I can't decide, which is better, Lambda with the bow on her chest or no bow?

http://imgur.com/a/TThm1

>>15564096
In this particular case I'd say it looks better without it. It seems more balanced that way. Plus there's already the other another similar looking ribbon right next to it.

>>15564122
Yeah, I agree. Just wanted to hear someone else's opinion. I was thinking that seeing her chest exposed is better rather than clutter. Not only that, there are so many ribbons on Lambda that it's somewhat ridiculous.

These body/head proportions feels so off somehow -shrugs-.

After saving so many lives in the past, it would be a shame to end one right here...

yo just want to let you know there's no magic circle button, no stake button, no butterfly escape button in real life. I want to see your glance as I smash your skull into the fucking blue truth, and I strangle the life out of your closed rooms, pushing my hempel's raven into their windows until you cry seagulls lol. well, not before forcing you to watch your who dunnit die in front of you.

>>15564179
Calm down Nanjo.

>>15564179
I prefer the original line

Am I the only one slightly put off by the whole naked sprite thing going on in these threads recently? I'll be the first to admit that I'm slightly perverted but this somehow crosses the line and feels kinda sick.

>>15565036
Not quite sure why it's bothering you so much compared to the other sexualizing that goes on in these threads.

>>15565047
Nonsense, these threads have always been pure and clean.

Too clean.

>>15565047
>>15565071
It's usually quite tame on the lewdness front. Never anything worse than "which seacat wud u fug". This stripping of childlike sprites and people sweating over Sakutarou panties is a bit much for me. I guess I shouldn't be surprised people are into it, it's just a step too far for me personally.

Higurashi was better

>>15565298
Alien parasites.

>>15565336
Small bombs.

>>15565351
In MY meal?

>>15565357
It's more likely than you think.

>>15565351
Except that never happened. Alien parasites actually did and it was ridiculous.

>>15565351
mystery trap x

>>15558967
>(Dead)
Bah.

>>15566065
Every time. Every time you get found out, you pull stupid attention whoring shit like this and whine like a cunt, alerting everyone to who you are. You literally cannot post without flaunting yourself in some way. Fuck off.

>>15566085
Not true.

>>15566085
Wow, what did I miss?

>>15566104
Retard attention whore is back to tell the whole thread how indifferent she is to getting banned by whining in passive aggressive filenames and onomatopoeias again.

>>15565336
Has nothing much to do with the actual mystery.

>>15565036
>this somehow crosses the line
>implying
Pic related

>>15565126
I just think it's hilarious and nothing more. It's not like I'm going to fap to them. All these discussions about mystery, love, murder, truths, etc, all while everyone is naked.
Not to mention Ryukishi purposefully makes his sprites lewd, as seen from the Chester girls and Dlanor. And there is so much lewd in the dialogue that it's funny.

The trick isn't simply that we're making the entire cast naked, but that we're following Ryukishi's rule of lewd by stripping them naked except for a few piece of clothing.

>>15560657
Oh shit, I just noticed that Phoenix is God. That's hilarious.

I mean, who wouldn't force beautiful women to be mostly naked? Wouldn't most movies or anime be significantly better if most of the female cast were naked?
And there is also an element of voyeurism as well, as the cast does not seem bothered or notice that they're naked, making it even more enticing.

>>15566163
>as seen with the Chester girls and Dlanor
I'm convinced that Ryukishi has a thigh fetish.

>>15566219
Who doesn't?

>>15566219
I think he's evolved past humanity and developed a fetish for everything.
It's not entirely surprising since he worked in fashion and they teach you all the marketing fetishation such as only showing parts of the body to make it more lewd, or focusing on a certain place with the design can make it more attractive. Things like that.
Like Dlanor and her stomach. I honestly just can't stop staring at it.

He has a maid fetish, he has a mind break fetish, he has a tomboy fetish, he has a cute girl fetish, he has a femdom fetish (most of the women in Umineko are femdom in one way or another, like Ange or Bernkastel and he does it well compared to basically the entire medium itself), he has a bully fetish, he clearly has a big breast fetish, he has a loli fetis.

The amount of actual fetishes in Higurashi and Umineko is ridiculous.
There's even a point in ep 8 of Higurashi where Rena is tied down BDSM style that's played for laughs.

I'm convinced that you can make every single part of the human body into a fetish. And being on 4chan for so long, I'm pretty certain of that fact.

>>15565022
what was it?


it's a really good line

>>15565298
>read Higurashi
>the message is about reaching out to others when you're lonely scared and paranoid and that friendship is important
>isolate myself more despite being inspired by the story
rip

>>15566543
>read Umineko
>the message is about accepting what you don't know and be content with living your life to the fullest
>spend time arguing online about the meaning of a story nobody completely agrees on despite being inspired by the story
rip

>>15566635
That's not what Umineko's message was!

>>15566635
some lies are harmless, and some truths are not worth knowing

bro

>>15566635
>Read Higanbana
>the message is about bullying being fun and that the only way to stop it is to stop bullying immediately when it happens
>spend time reminiscing the fun of past bullying experiences and do nothing to stop bullying
rip

>>15566731
>read Rose Guns Days
>the message is that Japanese people are shit, have no culture and don't care for their culture
>be weeaboo wishing I were Japanese living in Japan
rip

>>15565336
>nonsensical postmodern bullshit

>>15566543
Higurashi was just better done overall as a story really. Then again, I think Umineko's postmodern 'make your own meaning' thing is an abdication of being a storyteller. Which I fucking hate.

That and Higurashi has some kick ass tracks. Umineko has some decent BGM's but that's it.

read hotaru-bi
the message is that nobody gave a shit despite it having "when they cry" plastered on it

Oh, Umineko has an answer. It just isn't the one everyone thinks it is.

Okay, I'm finally just about done with Bern and Lambda's edits. I just need to make the alternate breast sizes and add the 18+ bits.

As requested, both of their heads have been downscaled 10%. Hopefully this helps with the proportions.

I ended up taking the lazy option with Bern's right hand and just hid it out of view. Sorry about that.

>>15566987
>bloated chest

>no penis

WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE THINGS

>>15566987
It helps a lot. Thanks.
Both Lambda and Bernkastel actually look pretty good now.

>>15566991
Females?

>>15567005
I've never seen anything like that before... I'm astonished

>>15567025
What did you think most of the characters in this series were?

>>15567025
You came from a vagina. Don't mind this anyway you won't need the information.

>>15566987
Could you fix this part?
I'm trying to put Bernkastel's second arm and it's annoying me to no end.

>>15567025
Have you seriously never seen a naked Barbie doll?

>>15567053
Ah, that was supposed to be her hip. It came out looking weird. Here you go.

>>15567065
Many thanks.

I think Bernkastel actually looks pretty good.

Hmmm. Should Bernkastel have a tail?
I'm trying to find a spot to add it but I can't seem to find a good one. I was thinking below her sleeve but it doesn't look really good.

>>15566971

>>15566635
>>15566665
Shit, I meant Higurashi.
Don't mind me.

>>15566635
This is too real, it's scary. At least we can find comradery in our ironic suffering.

>>15567161
Crap. I knew I forgot something. Under the sleeve seems like the most likely spot, but there's a lot of room for movement. For example you could have it come around her side and cover her crotch.

>>15567230
I dunno, it looks fine without the tail.

Is there anything that should be added to Lambda?

>>15567417
My dick, preferably inside her sweet puss but I can live with the other two holes too.

>>15567431
Added *to* Lambda, not into.

18+ version of Lambda is done. It took longer than I was expecting, but I'm pretty happy with the results. As requested, I made a nearly flat-chested version as well.

http://imgur.com/IanNOFF

>>15567534
Can you make the vagina bones smaller?
Something about it seems too large and weird.

Also, you left some pain stains off the torso.

Alright and he's Lewd Lambda with some clothes on.

http://imgur.com/a/j5hhM

It really looks good.

>>15567619
Cleaned up also the stains while I was at it.

>>15567619
How's this?
http://imgur.com/tj0CefH

Also, Bern's 18+ is done. I'll make other versions if asked.
http://imgur.com/Egtpb04

>>15567781
>http://imgur.com/Egtpb04
Hahahahahahahaa, that nipple holy shit.

>>15567781
>http://imgur.com/tj0CefH
Much better. It's perfect.

>I'll make other versions if asked.
A flat chested Bernkastel would be nice.

>>15566447
"It would be a shame to end a life after having saved so many."

>>15567830
Yeah, I know it looks weird. Everything about Bern's piece has been like that. I also forgot to add the tail again.

>>15567841
>A flat chested Bernkastel would be nice.
I figured somebody would ask. Sure, but It'll probably be tomorrow.

Now that these 2 are finally finished I'm probably going to take a break for a few days. Who would you like to see done next once? Personally, I'd like to try one of the busty characters this time.

I think I'm done with Lambda

http://imgur.com/a/1Mai8

http://imgur.com/a/vmnmh

>>15567891
>Yeah, I know it looks weird
Ah, don't worry about it. The ribbon will hide her breasts so it doesn't matter.

>Who would you like to see done next once?

How about Eva?

Honestly, Lambda looks really good overall.

>>15567921
Looks pretty good. It gave me a nice idea for a Lambda edit I'll probably do soon.

Eva shouldn't be too difficult, what with her tight dress and all. I'll wait a little and see if there are other requests, otherwise Eva it is.

>>15567945
You'd have to try really hard to make her not look good.

>>15567945
Yeah, I think she might be my best so far.

>>15567953
Although, could you fix Eva's breasts? They look floppy.

>>15567956
So you're saying that it was certain that she would end up good?

>>15567985
Yeah, Eva's breasts seem to be sagging in the steam sprites, so I'll most likely raise them. What about her Head-to-body proportion?

>>15568025
I think the head seems fine. Her breast might be the only real thing wrong about her sprite.

>>15568048
Well, I could probably try something like this.

>>15568087
Yes, much better.

I watched the Umineko anime years ago I now know that everyone hates it, but I still enjoyed it.
I tried reading/watching/playing the visual novel but after an hour or two I gave up. I do like some visual novels but they are ones with gameplay, Ace Attorney, Zero Escape, kinda BlazBlue, heck even Say no Uta it at least had some decisions and I could fap to that delicious monster loli.
Scenes like this are pretty badass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lb0xcfFvtA but I don't know if I can get through all the build up before it gets there.
Should I buy the Question Arc on Steam? Does that end the same place the Anime did?

>>15568278
Also is there a release date for the Answer Arc and Golden Fantasia X

>>15568278
>>15568283
Leave now and never come back.

>>15554728
I only played this game a bit, because it ran like shit on my old computer and I was way to lazy to jump through hoops again to get it to work on my new computer.
I think I used Will and Knox.

>>15568087
キタ━━━(゜∀゜)━━━ッ!!

>>15568299
We all make mistakes, Anon. We all have to start somewhere.

>>15568278
The Question Arc ends at the same point as the anime. The first episode does drag on a lot if you already know what's going to happen but it fleshes out the characters to something more that you will care about rather than as someone that only exists to die for the mystery. The first episode is also more like a pure mystery since there is no fantasy element intruding like the other ones.
The following episodes pick up the pace more and go more into the conflict between Beatrice and Battler and how Battler struggles and comes up with his ideas and theories. If you really want to, the game has the option of unlocking all four episodes, allowing you to skip the 1st one.

It doesn't have paths and gameplay because it's more like a normal novel, but it does have a great soundtrack. But if you can't get into reading the series from the original source despite that, then maybe it's not for you. There's still the manga version that's a good adaptation if you're still interested.

>>15568332
Hmm, I still can't decide. Maybe I will wait and hope it goes on sale. I already bought the first two Higurashi and they've just been sitting on my computer, however I preferred Umineko's premise.

>>15568278
>Should I buy the Question Arc on Steam?
Yes.

>>15556052
I want 4 Lambda to dominate me and shred me to pieces. END MY LIFE.

>>15568278
Think of it as a novel bud, not a game. Sit somewhere comfy and enjoy the story, or challenge it if you may.

>>15568025
Can you do one with the sag?

>>15568491
Slap them?

>>15568491
Sure, it's really not that hard to change.

>>15568527
Try and make old grandmother breast, like, very long sausages.

>>15568532
Sorry, but I'd really rather not.

>>15568537
Good.

<Very Good>

Just watch Shutter Island. Do you think it would make a good story for red-blue exchange? The problem with it is that the narator gave us contradicting red

>>15568843
>Because he is intelligent, he invents an intricate mental narrative in which conspiracy theories about Shutter Island and a hunt for a patient who doesn’t exist keep him occupied with a mystery that he cannot (or refuses to) solve: that he is patient 67.
Sounds like Battler to me

>>15568886
>Battler
>intelligent

remind me again why this thread is practically worshipping a guy making deviantart-tier nude edits?

>>15569076
Nobody's worshiping anyone. Edit anon is just one of the little people in the thread that actually do something related to the franchise rather than post screenshots while pretending they've read the series before and shitpost with images of an intellectual rapist.
It's fine if some of you don't like what the dude does, but no reason to get so bothered because of it

>>15569082
*while pretending they haven't read the series before.
Sorting music folders for hours is not good on my brain.

>>15569076
Original content. I'm not too into it but it keeps the thread going and opens up a bit of discussion, so I still appreciate it. it's better than derailing into petty unrelated drama.

>>15569076
>worshiping
>to treat someone with the reverence and adoration appropriate to a deity.
I just find it funny.

If everyone is fine with making their own poorly drawn sprites of Umineko to put in the VN, why not lewd sprites as well?
I like it because it tests my lewd levels.

>>15569111
well, you certainly need the practice, considering that they look like mannequins with nipples glued on.

>>15569140
Gift Horse in the mouth...

>>15568025
>>15567953
If you're going to do Eva, please do the PS3 sprite that actually looks good

>>15569145
>mixing the PS3 and Steam sprite
Might as well just ask for all the lewd be done only on the ps3 version.

>>15569150
I'd be totally fine with that

>>15569153
Ask for the sky while you're at it.
The Eva steam sprite isn't really that bad except for her saggy breasts and squinty eyes.

>>15569162
It looks terrible. People are only praising it because of the huge tits.

>>15568843
The intense music for the mundane scenes of them arriving on the island really clashed.

>>15569167
Bullshit, the huge tits is one of the things people hate. People are overly shitting on it because of what they saw on the magazine, showing the worst of the sprites.
In game, they don't look that horrible.

As I said, her sprite doesn't look bad except for when she squints her eyes and her breasts look saggy.

>>15569144
that saying presumes I wanted a horse to begin with. and even then, you don't need to look it in the mouth to figure out it's just a horse shaped pile of sawdust.

>>15569176
She ALWAYS squints her eyes.

>>15569194
Gift. Horse.

>>15569203
did you even read the post you're replying to

>>15569207
GIFT. FUCKING. HORSE.

>Steam Eva

>>15567985
>>15568025
I like the sag

>>15566888
>Higurashi was just better done overall as a story really
You have no idea of what are you talking about

>>15569242
And German people like to eat shit, so don't feel too bad.

>>15569249
One of these days, I'll make a video on the topic of Higurashi.
Higurashi has a better cohesive and straightforward story than Umineko, which, depending on who you asks, makes it better than Umineko in terms of being enjoyable.

Higurashi is honestly extremely well structured. Umineko is as well, but it's less straightforward and cohesive.

>>15569214
you seem frustrated

The only Eva that looks like Eva is Ryukishi's Eva. All other sprites/manga illustrations of her look strange.

>>15569266
I somewhat disagree. While I am pointlessly defending the stream sprites, the PS3 sprite made Eva more like Eva, by giving her a fan and hiding her smug smile.

I would like to take this moment to mention that I'd like to lick that thin, sensetive skin at the back of Rosa's knees.

>>15569254
>Higurashi has a better cohesive and straightforward story than Umineko, which, depending on who you asks, makes it better than Umineko in terms of being enjoyable.

Straightforward? For sure (but that's also what I love the most about the organization of Umineko's storytelling. Cohesive? Umineko has way better handled foreshadowing and plot points than Higurashi (and zero plot holes, compared to some unexplained/poorly explained important plot devices in Higurashi, like the whole Hinamisawa syndrome thing).

The wikia even created a session with this kind of info that wasn't really explained properly or presented with the attention it needed (http://whentheycry.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weird_Plot_Shit).).

Not saying that wikias are anywhere as near reliable as they claim to be, but they are quite accurate with the info and highly informed with details about the plot devices (I double checked every single of them just to confirm that),

Some important things are just left in there without much exploration really, unlike Umineko (not counting the whole Bernkastel and Lambda related stuff, which is yet to be introduced to the story and it isn't really related to the main plot.

Being enjoyable is rather subjective, it depends of what kind of story you prefer to read and the presentation of it.

Umineko has every single element in hand from the get-go and pretty much trick the readers with espectacularly smart unreliable narration, and this alone already make Umineko better as a story (especially as a mystery).

>>15569302
This is why I said ''depending on who you ask''. I don't believe it myself but I can see where the sentiment is coming from.

I view Umineko as better than Higurashi simply because of what morals and message I got out of the story. However, I would lie if I didn't say that Higurashi touched me more than Umineko.
Even if Umineko stabbed me harder than anything I've ever experienced with the ending of ep 3 and the tea party of ep 7.

All I'm saying is that it's understandable for that person to prefer Higurashi over Umineko on certain topic despite it not being as complex or great.

I still view Higurashi as being ridiculously well structured narratively. Umineko is very very well structured itself but Higurashi worked cohesively tricked the reader until the end.

The fact that Higurashi actually made the reader feel paranoid is why I still regard it as one of the greatest things I've ever read. Can't people agree that both are fucking great?

To me, Higurashi is a fun experience that was structured perfectly to make you actually paranoid. It's a great rollercoaster until the ending.

Umineko is an equally fun rollercoaster but has more to say about human nature, truth, love, detective fiction, empericism. Everything in Umineko is extremely well polished.

Both Higurashi and Umineko are very well polished, designed and structured. I always feel annoyed that people have to compared to find out which is better. They're both good. Can't people just leave it at that?

>>15569302
Oh, I need to bitch about this because I get tired of seeing it all the time.

>important plot devices in Higurashi, like the whole Hinamisawa syndrome thing).
There is no plot device. The thing about the Hinamizawa syndrome is that it subtly effects three people in the story but none of their actions were completely irrational. Every single one of their actions, from K1 to Rena to Mion, are given their first person monologue for every single one of their actions.
From K1 deciding to kill his friends to Rena deciding to blow up her school, you read their monologue and they're entirely rational the entire way.
Ryukishi, at the end of the manga, says that the Hinamizawa syndrome is more a metaphor of people simply not talking to each other and letting tragedy develop. Tragedies are always born out of miscommunication and silence and Higurashi is no exception. Hell, it's the entire theme.
While it is the reasoning for why people are turning insane, it isn't the cause. Everyone has the Hinamizawa syndome, but not everyone turns insane. Anyway can decide to not talk and kill everyone, just like everyone can talk and solve their problems with their friends.

Personally, I love Higurashi a bit more sometimes than Umineko because it goes into cynicism about how friendship is shit, like everyone believe, then rises out of its ashes to become optimistic. Optimism that destroys cynicism is always great.

>>15568903
long torso is long.

>>15569364
>Mion
That's the one character out of that group that never got an internal monologue.

>>15569140
I should probably point out that you've been talking to the wrong person. There's more than one editor here, but the one who is making the crappy nudes is me, not that anon. I'm sorry if my edits bother you (they bother me too), but some people seem to enjoy them, so I'll probably continue for awhile longer. Hopefully I'll get better with practice.

>>15569145
>>15569153
There's a few reasons why I insist on sticking to the steam sprites.

First of all, back when I had just started making edits I used the PS3 sprites as the bases. I ended up making edits of most of the female cast, but since they were my first attempts the quality is even lower than what I'm making now (hard to imagine, I know). The point is I prefer to work with something new this time rather than redo the PS3 versions.

Another big reason is I'm hoping that by continuing to introduce original content based on the material that just came out It might draw some attention to the official release and keep these threads going. For that reason, I made scans of the pachinko artbook, ripped the new sprites from the game once it came out, made images comparing all the old and new sprites, and now I'm making these things.

Basically, despite the excessive fanservice and questionable stylistic choices, I've just gotten somewhat attached to the Steam sprites after working with them so much.

>>15569242
I'll be doing versions both with and without the sag for the sake of comparison.

>>15569576
Since I missed quite a few threads aside from the previous two or three, do you still have that sprite comparison image?

>>15569820
It's actually several images, but sure I'll post them again.

>>15569859

>>15569863

>>15569868

>>15569873

>>15569879

>>15569885

>>15569894

>>15569900

>>15569906
Several 1998 characters don't have new steam sprites for some reason.

>>15569912
Chiru sprites are mostly taken from the artbook since they're not out yet.

>>15569921

>>15569927
And done.

>>15569934
Love ya

Nice

>>15569959
> 14$

can someone that was smart enough to solve umineko explain it to me?

>>15570084
witches arnt real but "magic" is kek

>>15570084
the solution is not watching the anime for the question arc

>>15570084
Open your heart to Erika.

>>15569237
You again

>>15570084

What is love?

>>15570402
Baby don't hurt me

>>15566736
>Read Higanbana
>the message is "If you're getting bullied, why not have them all die in a bus crash?"

>>15568278
Do you even read books, brah?

Different Anon. Did something. Won't be finished.

>>15569921
Oh wow, I actually like the steam sprites for this ones, they arent as bad as I thought.
And also the goat from >>15569912

shitpost

can someone explain why beatrice was so happy during ep 3 where shes torturing rosa and maria? . is she really that dense?

another shitpost

>>15570953
You mean EVA? She's in general an exaggerated and childlike representation of Eva's inner will. She found the gold and got into an argument with Rosa some time later. While the reality wasn't cruel torture, this scene can be seen as an exaggerated representation of her hatred for her siblings and her will to kill them when the situation calls for it.

Tho a nude edit works I'd much rather a silly edit version of the game.

Can you patch voices into the original game release?

>>15571140
no

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201607/21111233.html

>Higanbana release for 3DS in 5 days
What the fuck? When did this happen?

>>15569495
I'm obviously talking about the real name of Shion which was more of a funny injoke.
Is that really all that you got from my rant?

>>15571110
We can obviously do both.

>>15571309
>http://www.famitsu.com/news/201607/21111233.html
Any chance of voices?

>>15571376
>Price: 741 yen
No

daily reminder that youare the culprit

>>15571436
Damn, I'm sexy.

>>15570650
NICE

>>15571439
I want Black Battler to raw dog me while strangling me to death!

>>15571485
Alright Bern, calm down.

>>15569863
This game have the best aunts

>>15569927
I really wanna Zepar to fuck me passionately for an hour.

>>15572124
>Not wanting both of them

>>15571366
stay mad

>>15570436
>the message is "If you're getting bullied, why not have them all die in a bus crash?"
>the only way to stop bullying is to stop it when it starts
>but if you let it go on too long, it becomes impossible to stop
>so just kill all the bullies and start fresh
Really weird message honestly.

It's middle of summer

>>15573313
I don't get it.

>>15571028
yes but i meant beatrice reaction, not eva beatrice

>>15573677
Rosa and Maria weren't meant to die.
The epitaph was solved and no one should have died.

I dreamed about Rika yesterday.

then why did everyone die? its clear it wasnt just eva killing, maybe eva never told anyone but rosa.