/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>15499958
First for best oni.

>>15499970
Her total lack of shame and childish enthusiasm towards sex was a breeze of fresh air.

>>15500022
Indeed, and the VA is really talented.
https://a.pomf.cat/azhltr.webm

Tempted to read some other eroge where she's been in a larger role. Recommendations?
https://vndb.org/s279

>>15500070
I've only read through the Maonama series where she's the main-ish heroine and she was okay there. I liked it since it's a game that catered to things I liked anyways but I don't know about other's mileage when their experience with the VA comes from Nanarin.

>>15500070
If moege is okay with you, I'd suggest もっと 姉、ちゃんとしようよっ since she voiced both of twins and they have a threesome ending.

She did a far better job at Sengoku Koihime's Hifumi, but since she dont have a "large role" in that I cant recommend.

>>15500146
Oh forgot the Racial Merge. The heroine itself who voiced by her is not that interesting but the game is pretty good.

>>15499958
Maybe this isn't the right place. But I hope some of you can help.

So last week I decided to finally start and learn japanese.

I already memorized all kana. And am starting to study kanji.

The only problem I have is that almost every teaching guide and sources only focus on recognizing characters. And not on how to learn the actual meaning of the words.

I know this is /jp/ But i'm not actually familiar with the japanese language like a lot of hardcore guys that know thousands of japanese words but still can't read/write them.

The reason I want to learn japanese is so that I can finally play all those netorare eroge that are untranslated. So it's still relevant to this general at least.

>>15500187
Wrong thread, try https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/143759699/

>>15500146
The only Kazuki Fumi vn I haven't read (well, and shirogane spirits).

does himawari remake contains komorebi, kagerou and aqua after?

>>15500476
It has Komorebi and Kagerou as side stories after completing the main game, but both are unvoiced. No character sprites either, though there are some CG.
The remake doesn't have Aqua After, probably because it would be too heavy for all ages audiences despite technically being an all ages release.

The premise of this game is pretty retarded, but I like the characters. Especially the ojousama and the gyaru.

>>15500556
It's hard for me to say something like that, because they're simply so shallow. At the same time, their characterization however shallow made the scenes hotter, so who am I to complain.

How does it feel knowing there will never be a game as good as Muramasa in our lifetime?

>>15500706
I enjoy normal games so even if nothing ever matches Muramasa I'll still feel pretty content

>>15500706
If you only enjoy games like Muramasa, I guess you'd have a hard time. I like a wide variety of games so it doesn't really bother me.

>>15500706
I honestly prefer Subahibi, we will never experience another work like it, Sakura no Uta didn't do it for me. I think Scaji putted his life time effort in this work and probably can't make something like it again.

>>15500706
But muramasa was in my lifetime.

>>15500737
He's working on a sequel to it iirc which makes SnU feel sort of incomplete anyway.

>>15500706
Muramasa isn't good game. Couldn't make past chapter 3 because its so fucking boring.

>>15500737
I like both, so I'm waiting warmly for Sakura no Toki.

>>15500706
My only purpose was to read vns so I could do the lewd with cute girls and feel warm inside so I don't have interest in the muramasa types of vns.

>>15500939
"Boring" is not a critique of the game, it's a statement on how you felt while reading, which basically means you're insulting yourself. People say a lot of books are boring when those books are certified world renowned literature. Your argument is not compelling.

>>15500993
I read War and Peace, you shouldn't take my opinion so lightly

>>15501102
I actually laughed, good post

how is noraneko?

>>15501536
It's EOP shit.

>>15501619
Are you implying translation changes anything for the Japanese edition?

>>15501536
I remember multiple people praising one of the heroines

What are your guys' favourite moege?

I'm looking for something comfy to play but nothing catches my eye.

>>15501647
Hanasaki Workspring is the best one.

>>15501647
Outside of stuff like Yuzusoft or other popular brands, WariNaki is among my favorites.
Everything about it just clicked for me, but I imagine others might find it boring because it moves pretty slowly, there's a rather awkward time skip a couple of hours in, and the common route takes up most of the game's length.

There was also Kokoro Rista! from last year that I really enjoyed, probably because I had never head anything about the brand and staff before and went in with minimal expectations.
The pacing was nice and brisk, and the text itself just felt nice. I really liked the look of the art as well and it had a bunch of my favorite VAs.
It's a sequel to an older game though, but it seemed like most of the relevant information was explained in the game itself.
I didn't manage to get said older game to work properly even in a VM, so I can't speak much more on that.

>>15501647
miagete

>>15501791
That's more charage IMO.

Actually what the hell is the difference between the two anyway?

>>15501801
People call them charage when they don't want to feel ashamed about liking them.

>>15501801
I think it depends on the focus of the routes and the overall story but the line in between them blurs enough that I'm not sure myself anymore

>>15501791
>>15501801
Yozora was my 2015 top game but I hesitated to mention it because of this. If you end up with only the moe feeling for cute girls then you probably weren't paying attention to the game enough.
Yet looking for a game just for that isn't wrong either and there's games out there that do it better. Maybe Onikiss if you're into imoutos, for example.

>>15501536
It was kind of divisive, I personally liked it. Good comedy and OST, high budget (1080p), likeable heroines and subcharacters, but it also gets serious inside the individual routes. Some people didn't like the dramatic style of the writing and narration which makes it feel more like a play rather than a novel, but it was intentional and some others liked that aspect. The common route is almost bakage, though never to the point of Asa Project. That's my opinion though so check out the trial to see if it clicks as it simply didn't with some. It's mostly comedy mixed with a bit of drama and some thoughts about being alive and what it means to enjoy it.

>>15501801
Not much difference, but charage not always focus on the moe aspect. I'd be much more inclined to call "moege" stuff by CUBE or Hulotte as they have that extremely fluffy atmosphere.

>>15501536
It was kind of divisive, but I personally liked it. Good comedy and OST, high budget (1080p), likeable heroines and subcharacters, but it also gets serious inside the individual routes. Some people didn't like the dramatic style of the writing and narration which makes it feel more like a play rather than a novel, but it was intentional and some others liked that aspect. That's my opinion though so check out the trial to see if it clicks as it simply didn't with some.

The common route is almost bakage, though never to the point of Asa Project.

It's mostly comedy mixed with a bit of drama and some thoughts about the value of being alive.

>>15501536
Patricia is great

>>15501619
It's translation is going to be so shitty that it won't deserve to be called EOP shit.

>>15501619
Its translation is going to be so shitty that it won't deserve to be called EOP shit.

>>15502591
The fuck is this shit

>>15502598
Advertisement for the translated version.

>>15501647
Lovely Cation 2 was so good in the months since finishing it I compare every moe game I play to it and nothing's been favourable

>>15502612
>>15502591

Did they use google translate holy shit

>>15502617
the JP devs are quite well known for having atrocious English
nothing new here

>>15502623
But they are making fun of the fucked up English in the game-related movie: https://youtu.be/vLQy9maa02M?t=2m26s..

>>15502645
gap moe appeal? That's probably it, I guess

>>15502645
I loved the Neko no Okangae mini sections. They were so retardedly fun.

>>15500556
It's great how her VA is in pretty much every nukige now. I think she got super popular after her role as Kaho in 牝教師４, so now she gets hired for everything. Does an amazing orgasm voice.

>>15503079

Dunno, I don't see it at all. Though I only know her from what I played of Tsui Yuri. Sounded completely forgettable to be honest. Might also be a fair amount of "not my style", but eh. That's a thing for any voice actor.
That said, I don't see anything to indicate she got popular after that one role. Had tons of roles before that as well.

Is Puramai Wars good? I really dig Asa Projects art style and CGs but haven't tried any of their games yet.

I think I'm done. holy shit. just holy shit...

not interested checking out the BEs though.

>>15503124
Asa Project games = great common route and meh character routes.

>>15503099
I'm really only talking about her nukige performance. Her "Kaho-voice" is everywhere now.

>>15503137
Just played an Asa Project game (Hitotsu Tobashi). My analysis was that the common route was funny, but not really good. By which I mean, it made a lot of jokes that were funny, but the characters were bad and everything else uninteresting, which means every time a joke wasn't being made I was bored (which is pretty often). There's really nothing good about the game except the funny faces and a good number of the jokes. For this reason, I wouldn't really say it had a great common route, just a mediocre, funny one.

>>15503179
Good comedy is really all you should expect from Asa games. That is, until the common route ends.

Never expect good characterization or interesting settings.

>>15503186
I don't really see your point. There's no "expecting" here, it just is what it is - mediocre. Boring and shallow characters and whatnot are a negative impact to the game overall, even as a comedy game, especially has a comedy game.

>>15503189
Because I don't want to make a point. The games are mediocre.

>>15503135
>Not being fooled by the red herrings
that's half the fun.

>>15503124
i'm really liking it so far and while the comedy does slow down and the story does start to drag during routes it's not as bad as i thought it would be. i only completed 実乃璃's route so far but even the sex scenes were genuinely funny there which i've never seen done before, usually it's closer to being so bad it's funny or outright terrible, this might not apply to the other girls though.

>>15503179
Hi Quof.

>>15503754
Stop bringing personalities to an anonymous board, fuck off to reddit or the IRC if you can't stand having conversations without identities.

>>15504199
What VN are you reading right now?

How do you feel about console only visual novels? Why do they seem to sell better than a lot of pc visual novels?

>>15506092
Consoles i'm not sure, but I did read a couple on the PSP. It's pretty comfy laying in bed with that little widescreen and earbuds in listening to them talk.

>>15506100
Most "console" exclusive visual novels have handheld version as well.

>>15506092
They don't, really. Only a few big names like Leaf manage huge sales figures like that. That said, they do have advantages in terms of the distribution methods available to them, and also the fact that the PC is a niche platform in Japan.

>>15506100
Any PSP ones you'd recommend?

>>15506145
Henneko and Ro-Kyu-Bu

>>15506092
Development for consoles is generally much more pricey. This means only things with much higher potential are getting original console release. That's why they seem sell better.

>>15506100
you can do the same with regular eroge nowadays
chink windows tablets are cheap as fuck

>>15506092
the only ones that I'm kind of interested in and are never getting ported are Gust games and they aren't even really eroge.

Do you have any favourite authors that only/mainly write nukige?

I'll admit I wasn't expecting the Kotone route of Rorolog to end in multiple personality disorder resulting in a 3P.
Nothing makes any sense, but maybe that's for the best.

>>15507446

It's a nukige. What did you expect?
Wait...

>>15507429
Izumi Banya is probably the only one I can remember off the top of my head.

>>15507446
>multiple personality
>resulting in a 3P
>Nothing makes any sense
picked up

>>15502591
I asked him about THAT... Harukaze just ignoring me about Engrish. Oh my... Okay, well. So, just only try... Meee, it's UGLY. How can they PR their product like... Aaaaaaagh, I'm shocked.

>>15508145
Why are you writing like that?

Can't properly express my thoughts (can't reply to you, connection error, sorry).

I think I understand why there are so few adult heroines in games. It's really hard to feel pure moe love with them, because in the back of my head I keep thinking, "aren't you an adult? don't know ideal love isn't real yet and no two humans will ever understand each other meaningfully? what are you doing being so happy at that age?"

>>15509462
No, the reason is because we are all lolicons and exclusively attracted to little girls, so there is no market for it.

>>15509558
That doesn't even work as a joke because the most common heroine is a high school girl around age 16-18, often with significantly large breasts. Not lolis.

>>15509558
That's not it. High school girls are out of the strike range of most actual lolicons, but most heroines are about that age.

>>15509462
I still think it's because most readers want to experience an idealized school life. The "fool around as long as you young" mindset is deeply seated in Japan. No fun for salarydrones.

Also, jaded and hard-boiled nurses make the best adult heroines.

If you had a ton of money, could you commission someone to translate a visual novel? I'd imagine the cost would be astronomical if they can to code and everything.

Does such a service exist?

Perhaps just a notepad translation would be more doable.

>>15509573
>>15509582
To be fair most games will have at least one heroine with the body of a young loli, however much the game might claim they're 16-18.

>>15509653
Uhhh absolutely? You could pay anyone to do anything. The cost will be in the thousands though. A notepad translation would certainly be somewhat easily doable but literally no one plays those (one exists for a cool game but its so tedious that it's never brought up in TL'd discussions, ever) so a translator would probably charge MORE to do that since no one but you is ever going to use it.

>>15509653
>>15501192

>>15509653
Notepad would be a lot more tedious and annoying for the translator than having proper scripts. I know I'd charge more for a Notepad translation.

People weren't kidding, Bansenjin is fucking excellent.

What are some vns with apathetic main characters?

>>15509653
My undergrad's in Software Engineering and I learned languages and Japanese in the few years I was a NEET.
Now that I'm a corporate slavedrone I don't have the most valuable asset needed for this kind of stuff though: time. I prefer to use the little free time I have left on cute 2D girls and shitposting on the jay.

I know this might not be the right thread, but do I need to read the first game of the Infinity series to play Ever17?

>>15509912
You don't need to

>>15509952
Will I miss out on anything important or fun? Does the game make references to the first game?

>>15509912
You don't need to play Ever17.

>>15509954
The games aren't related, and I'm pretty sure nobody played other Infinity games besides Ever17, because they're garbage.

>>15509962
Okay. Thanks for telling me

>>15509962
Hey Never7 was... readable. It didn't even give me an aneurysm.

>>15509462
i want to play the original LxC so bad but tasuku drew their omanko flat as fuck..

>>15509962
Remember11 is good.

The pacing for Sera's route in LxC is so laughably bad I can hardly believe what I'm reading. MC and her somehow go from (pathetic moege spoilers) having a single psuedo-date and exchanging small talk in the nurse room/mall/etc to have a super serious discussion on their relationship... despite having only talked for about a week and only a few times in that.

>>15510698
ahahahahahahahhhaahhahah
good joke

>All the good heroine corruption games like the venus blood series and so on are fucking RPG-shit

死にたい

>>15511147
i've been looking at bishop lately and some of their games seem good for that

Can you start anywhere with Rance? I played Sengoku for a bit but dropped it fairly quickly because I sucked I think. I want to try some Rance again and kind of want to play Rance 3 since it looks pretty

>>15511181
>Can you start anywhere with Rance?
No, but there are a few games that make good starting points like 01, 5D/VI or SR.

>>15511176
Isn't all their shit just saiminjutsu bullshit? That's not real corruption.

>No scene where MC does Hachiroku in her fun size body.
Pretty disappointed. Currently downloading the H-scene patch which hopefully amends that.

So unlike Hibiki's route which is POLITICS Hachiroku's route is chock full of TRAINS which while interesting is a chore to read through. The final dramatic segment felt a little bit out of nowhere (they're forcing parallels to the incident over fucking bad weather). The route does have the most character development on Soutetsu's side, even moreso than Hibiki's whose conflicts is more plot-driven than character-driven.

Hachiroku is cute as fuck. I like how she got a new name at the end. Her OP 's piano ver. is best track in the game

I'm going for Paulette's route next. I hear it's the best one out of the three, can anyone confirm? Also I'd like to know what this 'Grand Route' is all about.

>>15511200
>saiminjutsu
i'm not sure they have a single game like that actually, most of their stuff is sexual slavery with rape/blackmail etc

>>15511213
Where did you get the H-scene patch? Just the DL version you need to unpack the exe to use?

>>15511220
Still not real corruption, if their sprites don't become lewder it's not real corruption.

>>15511249
>http://183.182.44.212/dl_card/lose/01/02/extend/extend.html
That one? I haven't tested it yet but I hear extracting the .exe with 7zip works.

>>15511267
Report back after you test it, please.

>>15511181
01's art is the same as 03's so you may as well start with that even though it's not anywhere near as good as 03

>>15511299
03 has quite a few throwbacks to 01 as well

>>15511251
that's just semantics. if a normal girl gets turned into a cock craving slut it's corruption. now if you specifically want games where it becomes visibly apparent over time that's something else. maybe try the 対魔忍 series, fantasy stuff like 聖騎士セルシア ～悪辣たる姫君～ etc

>>15511374
>if a normal girl gets turned into a cock craving slut it's corruption
No, corruption should imply actual evil/darkness, not just becoming a generic chinpo junkie.

>>15511392
i'm assuming that happens in the last game https://vndb.org/v17949/chars#chars

but dark/evil is different than what i thought you meant, go find sentai games i'm sure they're full of that shit

>>15511440
>go find sentai games i'm sure they're full of that shit
There's a few but sadly most are actually just them becoming chinpo junkies.

How much does vn sell? really asking for a friend

>>15511626
It depends, but in general, poorly.

10k copies is considered a success for most companies.

>>15511181
01 is short as fuck. Just use a cheat engine for money if you can't be bothered to get money towards the end.

Would really recommend it before playing 03.

>>15510867
Not him, but I generally enjoyed Remember 11 more than Ever 17 due to almost constant action and no boring segments whatsoever, plus really good use of choice system with shitton of bad ending branches. The only gamebreaking thing is the incredibly shitty and unsatisfying cliffhanger true ending. I can understand if they wanted create a "let the player piece together the important stuff themselves" scenario, but something like (spoiled game name just in case) Saihate no IMA pulled off something very similar, and yet also managed to have an ending that didn't make me infuriated for years.

>>15511299
>>15511313
>>15512061
>>15511191
Alright, I will probably do 01 -> 03 then. If I like those I might revisit the older titles and Sengoku.

How many titles of the franchise have you guys played, and how do you rank them?

>>15511267
>extracting the .exe with 7zip works
Yeah, it works.
Japanese developers really suck at DRMing stuff. Why even bother with the DRM in the installer when they don't even encrypt actual files?

>>15512158
I think you may not realize this, given the wording of your post, but you do realize Rance has a consistent story and characters? The only games that are debatablely skippable are 2, Kichoku, and 5D simply because the balance of "bad game" and "story" is awful, but everything after that and in between are "must plays" if you want to get into and enjoy the linear and fairly consistent story of the Rance series.

>>15512178
>Kichoku
How did you manage to fuck it up that badly?

>>15512178
The people I responded to said it's fine to do just 01 before 03 though. I realize there might be minor throwbacks and whatnot, but I doubt it's necessary to enjoy the games. And isn't 01 a remake of one of the first Rances anyways?

>>15512205
01 is a remake of the 1st Rance game - hence the name 01.

>>15512212
Depends what you define as "minor throwbacks". Rance tends to have a ton of recurring characters, places, factions etc. and a surprisingly complex lore, but yeah, you could probably skip 2, but you could just read the digest version AliceSoft released a while back.

>>15512205
It is fine to do 01 -> 03 because 2 is skippable, and those are remakes of 1 and 3. It's not just "minor throwbacks" and whatnot, it's literally the same characters appearing in a fairly consistent and linear story. You can still enjoy the games while skipping, because they're fun games, but you'll be missing out in a big and significant way. Especially if you went along with your original plan and skipped the friggin first game in the damn series.

By the way, I forgot to mention, but 4 is likely to get a remake in the same way 1 and 3 did, so waiting to play 4 until it gets a remake is an acceptable decision.

>>15512205
Depends what you define as "minor throwbacks". Rance tends to have a ton of recurring characters, places, factions etc. and a surprisingly complex lore, but yeah, you could probably skip 2, but you could just read the digest version AliceSoft released a while back.

Now that we know that the Yu-No remake includes the original game for free. Do you still hate it?

>>15512613
I never hated it in the first place. Looks much better than the original and might actually be worth playing now.

>>15512613
Yes.

>>15512613
The designs just look bad compared to the original.

>>15512625
I agree. Moe should be an industry standard.

>>15512639
Why?

>>15512648
It includes the original!

>>15509462
Because games are for kids and kids hate adults because adults are superior to kids in any way. Adults generally have secondary role of stupid/weak/laughable characters or evil that got punished.

>>15512232
Skipping IV isn't great for VI

>>15512158
Played them all

Big three are VI, Sengoku and Kichikuou
Then 03 and IX (IX is heavily text and character stuff and depends a lot on the earlier games)
Then Magnum and then 01 which is short

The rest are old or meh

2 is skippable but introduces a few of the main girls

>>15512657
>It includes the original!
It doesn't though, wtf are you talking about.

>>15512759
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201607/03109953.html

>>15512759
The first print edition will.

>>15512676
In truth, kids generally have a huge complex towards adults. This is a result of the fact that kids don't want to admit that they're a kid. They look up to adults and see them as superiors and ideal role models; as long as it would rid them of the kid status. They have a tendency to put them on a skewed, unrealistic pedestal like what you're doing right now.

Sword is definitely my favorite so far, but Mako and Yoshino are also great.

>>15509593
>jaded and hard-boiled nurses make the best adult heroines
You got some good taste, Anon

>>15509593
>The "fool around as long as you young" mindset is deeply seated in Japan.
This mindset is especially clear in university-age students as well though, which is why even though they're pretty mediocre in terms of writing, I like the university-attending heroines from Atelier Kaguya games.

Any other good heroine focused moege with short common routes aside from Cation series, MagiCha or Fureraba? Neither Pure * Connect or Loverable are doing it for me, I just get burned out after finally entering the actual heroine routes.

>>15514258
Hoshi Ori

Are most eroge fans in Japan really 30+ year old men or is this just a meme?

>>15514821
Many are. Probably most.

>>15514821
Sometimes I saw guys that must have been in their 20s (cause they looked like they're 15) on some eroge events, but most people did look older, yeah.

Good games with slutty school girls? Bonus points if they aren't prostitutes.

>>15514821
fanbases for anything in japland generally dont get in new blood and thus die off with the generation that birthed them, see tokusatsu films and soon eroge.

>>15515308
koikake

>>15515308
Depends what you mean by slutty.

>>15515357
Willing to hold hands by the third date.

https://twitter.com/haruyama_P/status/750331694738092033
The most important question about 空のつくりかた was answered.

>>15515852
Killing eroge.

>>15515852
This one too?

>tfw 4 months after release and still no one's uploaded the nukige your dick is begging to fap to, only its CG

God damn Elevens suck at piracy.

>>15515877
>「空のつくりかた」のヒロインは全員処女です
>ヒロイン
I kinda doubt that punk could be considered a heroine.

>>15513673
Mako is defentily my favourite girl. Though I really liked Sanoba Witch much more than this game. I didn't really want Yuzusoft to do battle stuff and just focus on the romantic comedy.

What should I play next?

>>15516057
CyberRebeat

Free game about hacking, recommended by Hadler-sama.
https://hadlerblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/07/the-hegemony-of-free-games-pt2-cyberrebeat/

>>15516057
A nukige.

>>15500070
Woah what a cutie. Is this game worth playing?

>>15515905
Rude

>>15516215
If you're able to like games which are more than just light hearted SoL moege - yes.

>>15516319
I find such games generally preferable.

I don't see any Aoi route. Why play the game if the best girl doesn't even have a route?

>>15516356
All onis get their sex scenes throughout the common route, they don't get routes, mainly because they don't need them.

>>15516370
B-but I want to romance the cute cat girl.

>>15516380
You are going to romance her anyway, MC is stuck for life with her.

>>15516383
Sold. Thanks anon.

Already worth it. What a cutie.

What does the 'package edition' release that many eroge seem to get mean exactly?

>>15517065
Isn't that normally in contrast to DL editions?

>>15517078
Oh so it just means physical boxed copy then? I see.

>>15515308
Date A live's kurumi route is just that.

>>15518645
I can't imagine something more boring than sluts in all-ages games.

>>15518698
They actually fuck, you just don't see anything, but you do get a few moans. Of course it's mostly implied. Kurumi is just "rubbing".

>>15518698
There is even a preggers end.

>>15518738
Why did someone slam a pocket watch into her eyesocket?

>>15518758
She is a clock anon, would you fuck a clock?

>>15518781
Yes. In all three forms.

>>15518781
No, I don't like my cock getting crushed between various gears.

>>15518645
Is she actually a slut, or just one of those virgin "sluts" you get in moege?

>>15519392
She wants to fuck, I would not be surprised if she has participated in a gang bang or two. She lures men in to secluded areas and sucks their "time" away. God knows how she does that but it leaves those men dead, it also involves a lot of blood.

>>15519392
Actual sluts are only in fucked up nukige.

>>15519392
the second one without the sex

>>15519455
>has participated in a gang bang or two
This is my fetish

>>15519882
Any vns that don't look like nukishit with gangbangs?

>>15519888
The Kanotsuku games (2 and Happening) are the closest I can think of. They're waifu simulators where you can take her with you to couple cafes, gangbang her with your school friends, or make her do AV if you want.

Sucks that most eroge have MFF but not MMF.

>>15519888
Twinkle Crusaders' fan disc's Pricchi crossover had one short spitroasting scene involving Pricchi's teacher character and both games' protagonists, but nothing else comes to mind.

>>15519973
I haven't played the other ones, but I remember that at least Kanotsuku 2 was a full blown nukige with very early and near constant sex.

Translation aside, is Grisaia actually good?

>>15520148
no

>>15520148
Overall dependent on how well the superman ex-assassin protagonist, humor and the heroines click with you. The first one is mostly about solving the girls' varying problems and traumas. I wouldn't really recommend playing the series for some sort of stellar overarching plot or anything like that, despite its attempts especially in the second and third game.

First was a pretty good charage, though I'd say only two routes were notable. Makina in particular was wonderful. Second was more of fan disc with a sequel hook rather than a proper sequel (most of it is non-canon extra content) and the third one is pretty much a full-blown action spy thriller with quite asspully and very, very silly plot and ending, plus extremely cliche antagonists. It's like a parody which is trying to take itself seriously. I'm still banging my head over how hyped I was about Rakuen's plot before its release.

>>15520148
It depends on what you expect from it.
I enjoyed it a lot as a charage with some heart-wrenching drama.

>>15520148
It's enjoyable if you go in expecting it to basically be a ridiculous James Bond but for Otaku. Nothing more, nothing less.

>>15520148
Funny good common route but everything else is shit, including the porn. I can't even remember the music.

>>15520148
No, Meikyuu was alright but Rakuen is utterly ridiculous with only a few redeeming points.Calling it a parody that's trying to take itself seriously like above is pretty much spot on, but doesn't even cover everything that was wrong with it.

>>15520640
lewd

>>15520640

>>15520640
I-in public? How indecent.

It's too bad moege have better production values than nukige. Sex is more fun than romance.

>>15520748
Nukige fans usually don't need high production values. They are playing for the sex, not for the quality.
Also nukige have more fierce competition with other media and especially various doujin games. That pretty much places a cap on how high you could go with sales and such things.

I guess the recent rise of more sex-orientated moege covers the ground between nukige and moege. It looks like they have rather high production values too.

>>15520748
Depends. Waffle nukiges are top-notch. Astronauts' too.

>>15520934
Then why does the art in Kyonyuu Fantasy get worse every installment?

>>15520973
Because Q-Gaku is no longer the only artist

>>15520980
Fair enough. I don't like how everyone looks like they bathe in oil now either, though.

>>15521005
Personally that only really gets bad when water is involved in the sex scenes, I more have an issue of the drop of quality in Q-Gaku's drawings in the last couple of games, most likely due to having less time to draw due to the increased amount of releases in the series. Probably why they brought more artists to the table as well.

>>15521019
Yeah, I mean it's still good, but it's like he's simplified everything that shouldn't have been simplified. Like the elasticity and small details like folds in skin are lacking. Though it might just be an effect of the coloring, the end result is that the titties don't feel as soft as they should and just feel less like titties overall.

Not sure if this is the right thread to ask, but is there a way to purchase download edition games from DMM, if you are outside Japan?

I have heard about the cookie editing solution for Kancolle/net games, but I'm not sure if it will work the same for other parts of the site.

>>15521325
?
I can buy games from DMM just fine. They only block gaijins from viewing and purchasing physical copies.

>>15521438

Maybe it's just my country then.

Trying to navigate to ttp://dlsoft.dmm.co.jp/, either throws up a redirect error or 'out of region' error for me.

But if you can buy fine, I assume that means foreign cards are ok for payment?

I can get the site to load through a VPN, but was worried about the payment/if any extra authentication was needed.

>>15521598
Did you register and switch to japanese?
It works for me w/out VPN or anything.

>>15521618

Yeah, same result unfortunately. Even while logged in, as soon as I switch back to my own connection it gives me the out of region error.

>>15514258
>best girl

sad you didnt like loverable it was awesome but cant say much for the girl routes itself

any decent ペッタン娘
i kinda would like one seductive flirty like >>15513673

Newfag here. I saw the discussion regarding Rance and wanted to ask: I've heard that Rance02 is getting another remake, i.e. Rance002? I'm vaguely aware there's a balance patch for Rance02, but that was just me reading some shit on a blog with my half decent Japanese. Can anyone confirm or contribute?

How important is the extra content in Chaos;Head Noah?

>>15521930
Rather than getting a confirmation, I believe one of the major people at Alicesoft said he wanted to do a proper remake for Rance II which would be called Rance002.

>balance patch for Rance02
It's a bit more than just a Balance patch, it massively changes the dialogue in some areas and brings the game up to speed with the current lore at the time

You'd be better to ask Alicesoft related questions on the general in /vg/ if you want detailed responses.

>check on baldr heart
>it's delayed
I don't know what I expected.

Doujin eroge can be so random at times.

Anyway, this (神さまの耳はけものみみ) isn't too bad. Also 1080p. Wonder if this has routes or something, weird to play something where I can't find a walkthrough. This world has become strange.

Doujin eroge can be so random at times.

Anyway, this (神さまの耳はけものみみ) isn't too bad. Also 1080p. Wonder if this has routes or something, weird to play something where I can't find a walkthrough. This world has become strange.

>>15522484
I had it on my backlog but I don't know when I'll have time for it.

>>15522541

Should be relatively short. I feel like I'm towards the ending of a route of sorts and I've not spent that many hours on it yet. At most like.. 4?

Other than that it's a rather simple moege with a bit earlier than usual sex I suppose. Kinda weird actually. It sorta feels like they at first thought about making a nukige, but then decided "nahh, moege".

>>15522484
True animal ears.

Sold.

>>15521657
I also get an error if I navigate via the menu on the main site. It won't let me access anything.

But it works if I manually type the address (dlsoft.dmm.co.jp) while being logged in.

i just got cardboard today, any jap eroge / games that use vr well? maybe like waifu sex sim
i think nekopara does it

>>15524422
Try Costume Maid 3D

so like. did anything actually happen with this character campaign? did the guy who paid $30k for his game get his game?

did anything happen at all with hataraku otona after release?

>>15524468
>こっちも期待しちゃってるんだけど、ね
slut

>>15524947
She's only a slut if she has sex with multiple people, s-
Carry on

>>15524950

she just fucks 1 guy through the whole game tho

>>15524971
In that image she's talking to everyone who voted, though, so I can see why she'd be called a slut

>>15524977
Everyone who played her game interacted with her through the same avatar though, so to her they're all the same person.

>>15524991

imagine fucking the same itsuki-kun for your entire life.

terrifying

>>15524991
That doesn't make much sense, that's like saying if 10 people all gang rape a girl while wearing a Guy Fawkes mask, then she only had sex with 1 person, Guy Fawkes. In-universe it holds up, because there's only 1 MC-kun, but she broke universe, and as an individual is saying she's looking forward to sex with thousands of people

>>15525035
But that's the universe she lives in.
How about this - if a guy has multiple personality disorder and the girl has sex with all his personalities, is she a slut?

>>15525049
Yes if she swore love to one specific personality

Are there any good nukige that capture an atmosphere similar to Bible Black? I.e. an evil or naive protagonist lewding the place up with the help of dark forces or the like? It's been so many years but never found anything that even comes close really.

>>15525114
Atlach-Nacha

>>15525528
>jorougumo heroine
Spider pussy is not exactly what I had in mind but will check it out.

Guess games with an atmosphere like Bible Black just aren't that popular though, at least compared to the tsunami fo moege. Shame.

>>15525629
In latter part of the game you can make various characters fuck each other.

Favorite sub 10 hour eroge?

>>15525665

https://vndb.org/v14401

It's a shame how few gyaru corruption eroge there is.

>>15525674

Speaking of which, anyone know any other decent nukige with pure maidens dropping down into slutty gyaru with slutty clothes and/or kinpatsu/etc? All I know is that circle's games, a few by dieselmine, and tsuiraku jinsei by pinpoint.

Did anyone read the 千の刃濤、桃花染の皇姫 trial? What did you think?

>>15526290
Yeah, I have 5 copies.

Thought it moved pretty fast, so there must be much more to the game than the premise alone implies.

>>15526290
Yes. It's good.

>>15526290
I never finished it. It felt like August didn't really know what kind of game they wanted to make, and the result just felt like a half-assed combination of something like Eustia and something like their other games. Also, the protagonist has a voice you'd expect from some random faceless side character.

>>15526344
How fucking dare you judge an incomplete game?

>>15526360
So far I like the pacing but seriously this CG is hideous, the particle effects seem very out of place and not to scale.

So I've been out of the vn scene and out of /jp/ for awhile, I guess maitetsu and Baldr are being translated officially?

Good luck with that I guess

>>15526904
Both are getting their ero-content cut out, IIRC.

>>15526904
Maitetsu is crap
Baldr won't live up to the hype surrounding it, that goes for every single "big" VN translation because Moogy and co hype shit so hard EOPs think every so called kamige is the greatest piece of fiction to ever grace the mankind

>>15527039

Both are Sekai. Sekai doesn't sell stuff, outside of the nekos. They get hated by a lot of people, pretty much rightfully so too.
So yeah, won't sell. Maitetsu maybe if a big enough controversy arises. Baldr Sky won't even make and waves. It'll get released and forgotten.


Well, whatsoever. Doesn't matter too much for us, and for those who care.. they can hope that Baldr Sky is the only thing Giga gives Sekai. Could've been worse.

>>15527039
Baldr is genuinely good, though.

I've been reading France Shoujo and got some endings.(There are a lot.)
The writing style kind of reminds me of classical literature.
I like it so far, but it's kind of hard to push myself to get some of the endings because you have to be a real asshole for them.

>>15527918
I've wanted to get into that.
How is the protagonist's relationship with the blonde loli? Do you get different routes with her to keep her as a slave/fucktoy/daughter and so on?

>>15527962
The relationship can lean towards sexual or platonic. I haven't actually gone the blonde loli route yet though, just judging from the main route.

>>15527039
What's with all the shit getting english translations lately?
I dont want to share my space with plebs, with their pleb opinions.

>>15528003
Its games being announced, not being released, take it easy. Though three kamige of nukige were recently TL'd, that was a big hit.

>>15528003
There are a lot of places on the internet with zero EOPs that you could visit if you were so inclined.

>>15528010
>go to 2ch
>koreans everywhere
zawa

>>15528005
>kamige of nukige
What were those?

I legit thought I'd never see the Baldr games coming over. I can't even fathom how they'll bring them.
CG cuts, ok
Huge text for both games, ok
Niche as fuck, ok

This is insane

>>15528029
That was an exaggeration, but in the span of like two weeks, three nukige were translated, which was quite the business. Taimanin Yukikaze, Kedamono tachi no Sumu Ie, and Kimomen demo Harem Guild.

>>15528010
I go to meiwa, 2ch and sometimes lurk may and it's alright I guess but depending it can be obnoxious so I check jp every once in awhile

also this
>>15528025
The ハロワ there are fucking annoying. There was peace in the amagami general until those fucks came in to trash the gen

>>15528034
Oh, those first two are good.
Never played the third one, doesn't look too good judging from vndb.

>>15528039
neets are a problem in /jp/ as well though

>>15528049
Neets, chons
It's terrible at times

>>15528044
>Never played the third one, doesn't look too good judging from vndb.
I-I assure you it's high quality despite the low production values. Don't let the 5.8 average rating fool you.

>>15527962
I can say that there is a route to make your sister a slave, though.
There are comprehensive guides on how to get each ending when you click on them in the ending list they have in-game, which is rather convenient.

Can someone kindly explain how to make an ultimate text grabber from untranslated vns?

>>15528058
I forget how many Miel games I've played already, including a few from the kimomen series, since they're short and to the point. They're not comparable to Yukikaze, at least, even though I'm not one for NTR.

>>15528106
Current solutions are fundamentally the best you're gonna get

>>15528119
Sorry, I am an idiot. The proper thing I wanted to say was "Does anyone how to set the text grabber for visual novels the best way? So it can show furigana and approximate translation?"

>>15528125
This is an English language forum; if you're not capable of speaking English please leave.

>>15528136
Imageboard*

If you're going to sperg out at least be consistent.

>>15528106
>>15528125
Try learning Japanese.

>>15528156
I want to use it to learn Japanese. I want to practice my Kanji and check out any new Kanji I see in it. No one uses it here?

>>15528142
"Imageboard

An imageboard or image board is a type of Internet forum"

Might want to look up the definition next time before embarrassing yourself

>>15528206
No buddy, the only one embarrassing himself here is you.

>>15525674
>netorare
fuckin dropped

>>15525674
>netorare
fuckin picked up

>>15528232
Please and kindly end yourself.

>>15528218
Except I'm right and you're wrong, so I have nothing to be embarrassed about, kid.

>>15528058
What's so good about it? It looks pretty generic for a nukige.

>>15528355
Just a little tongue in cheek, don't mind it.

When did it become normal to like NTR?

>>15528279
Yes you do.

>If you're going to sperg out AT LEAST BE CONSISTENT


Now go sit on the corner and reflect about your awful childish behavior.

>>15528239
>>15528393

I just don't get it. NTR enthusiasts usually say they are identifying with the stealer, but the first person perspective narration of eroge makes the reader identify with the one being stolen from. I would understand if they were reading material written from the perspective of the stealer but this is almost never the case.

I can only imagine it is some kind of extreme emotional masochism, the sort of thing people like love triangle soap operas for, turned into a fetish thing.

>>15528393
When NTR mainly became about busty, hot women being corrupted by lust. That's something anyone can get behind. You'll find that most NTR games/stories are more about hell yeah moral and sexual corruption, not about feeling bad for the MC (though those do exist)

>>15528401
>I would understand if they were reading material written from the perspective of the stealer but this is almost never the case.
This is usually the case, though. Heck, in most games where the MC is significant, the perspective shifts to the girl most of the time, so it's the same deal.

>>15528416

Netori and Netorare are different things.

>>15528428
recommend some netori titles?

>>15528428
But both are NTR. Ne?

>>15528401
I don't really identify with anyone in NTR games. I just like slutty girls, and cheating on someone you love is the ultimate form of corruption.

>>15528428
netorase is better than both of those

>>15528467
Yes, you understand.
It's all about the moral depravity and corruption of the girl.

>>15528401
>NTR enthusiasts usually say they are identifying with the stealer
They do?

Does anyone have a link for CROSS†CHANNEL 復刻版 version? The only torrent has only one seeder who won't upload and all the DDL links are dead.

>>15528967
What was the difference between it and the original version?

>>15528967
You're really getting desperate.

>>15528125
People like you are cancer to this thread.

>>15529301
Same to you man. I don't see why you would think a pointless statement of your personal judgement on a 4chan poster like that isn't cancer. Talk about eroge and the thread will be fine.

>>15529346
Your post was equally offtopic you hypocrite.

Yui from Flyable Heart is best girl.

>>15529428
I'm not being hypocritical, I am merely engaging in the same behavior I'm pointing out that he is. Note that I didn't say, "stop posting offtopic", I said, "same to you", "I don't know why you think you aren't cancer". By the way, adding on irrelevant discussion to fake on-topicness doesn't hold water.

>>15528401
>I can only imagine it is some kind of extreme emotional masochism
Yes.

>NTR enthusiasts usually say they are identifying with the stealer
Not my case. I identify with the MC because I'm a masochist. I don't want to sound like a purist but I don't think people who identify with the stealer really like NTR. Which can't be blamed, I mean you really need to love suffering to like it.

That, mixed with the corruption >>15528467 mentioned.
That said, it's fiction, and just like many other fetishes I don't want to experience them in real life.

>>15529448
So you think it's ok to come here and post offtopic meta discussion? We come here for the eroge and offtopic posts are not that, go somewhere else if you want it.

Eroge-related posts are plenty relevant in this thread. Mayuri second best girl, shame her route was incomplete.

>>15529453
>I don't want to experience them in real life.
this is the concept most people don't understand when it comes to fetishes in general

>>15529453
dude what is your childhood trauma

>>15529537
There is NOTHING wrong with wanting to fuck little girls in real life.

>>15529590
Indeed. As long as you don't actually do it, it's a perfectly healthy urge.

>>15529606
Exactly. Damn laws.

I just want to experience pure love with a little girl, but I guess I'll just stick to eroge.

>>15529590
It is. Real life lolis are disgusting.

>>15529628
They are quite cute. At the very least they are cuter than real life women.

>>15529646
Not really. I'll take a 20-year-old instead, thanks.

What is a good visual novel for beginners? I know around 500 kanji

>>15530234
How am I supposed to know? Ask on Reddit, they have fetish for guiding beginners (towards mediocrity, but you can skip that if you try hard enough.)

>>15530234
You can't read shit with 500 kanji. Learn more and then come back.

>>15530234
muramasa

>>15530284
This

>>15530234>>15530282
Known kanji is a tremendously shitty metric anyway.
You aren't supposed to read kanji, you should read words. It's a vocabulary that counts, not known kanji.

>>15530282
I'd started reading with less than a hundred kanji and I've never regretted it since then.

>>15530234
装甲悪鬼村正
神咒神威神楽
信天翁航海録
紅殻町博物誌
霞外籠逗留記
花散峪山人考

>>15530362
悪神翁町籠峪 is my personal favorite.

>>15530380
are you gonna make this joke every time

>>15530441
Sure, might as well.

Can you turn off the emote in Clover Days Plus?

>>15512613
You made me hype as fuck for a YU-NO remake, then I found out it's yet ANOTHER fucking console exclusive with no PC alternative. Fuck that stupid shit.

>>15530299
Not really, if you only know 500 kanji you're not gonna know a lot of words so its a fine metric at that point

>>15530644
It doesn't work like that.
For example, I don't know individual kanji in the word 薔薇. I won't be able to read them individually. I don't know what the hell they mean by themselves. I won't be able to write them or tell their radicals. I haven't studied them ever. But I can clearly recognize this combination as the word ばら with the meaning "rose".
And if you know Japanese you'll be able to come up with countless similar examples.

This is the same no matter how many kanji you've studied.

>>15530701
Uhh, I don't know why you thought this was a good post, but I recommend thinking about things more before posting. For some clues, think about 500 kanji and how many common kanji there are, and additionally what it means to "know" a kanji.

>>15530752
If you know the readings, what it looks like and what it means in various compounds, then you "know" the kanji. Whether you can write said kanji is actually fairly irrelevant.

It's perfectly reasonable to learn compounds/words, their meanings and readings in order to learn the constituent kanji. If you think otherwise then you're just outright stupid, because this is exactly how learning your native language vocabulary (and even grammar) actually works - intuitively.

Whether going from kanji->words or words->kanji is more efficient... well that's a different discussion altogether.

Anyway this isn't really the place to talk about this so this is all I'm gonna say about it.

>>15530800
>Anyway this isn't really the place to talk about this so this is all I'm gonna say about it.
I'm glad because you were digging your hole deeper

>>15530804
I'm a different person from the original post. I don't know what hole you're talking about. Bothering to say there's a hole in what's a blatant fact and then not backing it up just makes you look like a moron. You're better off not saying anything at all if you aren't going to elaborate.

Again, that's all I'm gonna say (since there's nothing else to add).

>>15530820
>I'm a different person from the original post.
Well, that explains why it seemed he went on a tangent unrelated to his original point...

>>15530823
Someone claimed that "knowing" a kanji only from knowing words/compounds it's a part of isn't actually "knowing" the kanji. I claimed that was bullshit. How exactly is that tangentially related?

>>15530823
Someone claimed that "knowing" a kanji only from knowing words/compounds it's a part of isn't actually "knowing" the kanji. I claimed that was bullshit. How exactly is that tangentially related?

I disagree w/ why he said it of course, if that's what you meant by original point. If you know enough kanji via words, then technically you know a whole lot more than 500 kanji. In which case, fair enough. Doesn't change the fact that >>15530752 is dumb.

>>15530838
>Someone claimed that "knowing" a kanji only from knowing words/compounds it's a part of isn't actually "knowing" the kanji. I claimed that was bullshit.
You just projected that.

>>15530966
>Uhh, I don't know why you thought this was a good post, but I recommend thinking about things more before posting. For some clues, think about 500 kanji and how many common kanji there are, and additionally what it means to "know" a kanji.
implication being:
>"knowing" a kanji only from knowing words/compounds it's a part of isn't actually "knowing" the kanji

Whatever you say bud... Whatever you say...

>>15530983
If you read >>15530701 again, he's saying he doesn't know the kanji despite knowing the word. So, do you see why I said you went on an irrelevant tangent? You even contradicted him.

>>15530619
What's to be hyped about? YU-NO was terrible. It's a classic, it's unique, it's engaging... up until the epilogue, and then you realize that this whole thing is Elf telling you to go fuck yourself.

>>15532114
Not really fair to call a solid game terrible just over the epilogue desu

>>15532114
What's bad about it? I haven't reached the epilogue yet but so far everything's been great

>>15528025
>>15528054
Stop trying to fit in by being xenophobic you weeaboo. I bet you're one of those schizophrenics who genuinely believe kenmou is a board full of koreans instead of just anti-right-wing japanese (yes they do exist).

How long are the heroine routes in Kazoku Keikaku? And is there any specifc order I should do them in?

>>15532686
Gook spotted.

>>15528034
>three nukige were translated
Holy fucking shit mate

With the normie invasion grabbing my Baldr games and they're even trying Dies Irae, maybe Muramasa

I might as well just become a normie and face real life since they're coming after me.'

Fucking niggers.

So I've just recently begun reading untranslated VNs, and have been looking at DMM to buy them. Are the prices there just particularly high, or is that the standard? Even for older titles they're priced like new game releases at 5k ~ 8k yen. Are there any other stores recommended here?

>>15534283
Yeaaahh, it's like that everywhere. Sorry. The only way to get it cheaper is to buy second hand (usually about half price). VNs are stupid expensive for the content sold in my opinion, but then again it's precisely because they're stupid expensive that they get made, so it's a rough situation.

>>15534283
Nigga you could try going on Mandarake and getting some of them second hand but you kind of get to realize why most of people in this gen are piratefags.

>>15534283
better off buying new games on release or buying the rare "discount" version that pops up sometimes, but not all companies release those especially not in a timely manner

there's also a small difference in price between DMM and dlsite, and dlsite at least gives you points to discount future purchases, DMM probably does too

>>15534293
>>15534295
>>15534317

Thanks for the replies, I had a feeling that might be the case since it's a pretty niche market. I'll put up with the prices and look around second hand some then.

>>15528044
Miel games are bargain bin garbage. You didn't miss out.

Can anyone recommend some that are relatively simple so that I can practice my intermediate-level Japanese?

>>15534378
See >>15530380

I will laugh really hard if Baldr Sky ends up being a kickstarter.

Has anyone played Hateshinaku? I've been enjoying it but I've had some problems getting the choices to work right. Anyone else have this issue?

>>15534378
axanael

>>15534264
>they're even trying Dies Irae, maybe Muramasa

Never gonna happen.

>>15528034
>three nukige were translated
Was the kedamono translation basically a shitty machine TL? Not sure of the other two but wouldn't surprise me if they also were.

>>15528034
>three nukige were translated
Wasn't the kedamono translation basically a shitty machine TL? Not sure of the other two but wouldn't surprise me if they also were.

How difficult is White Album 2? Average difficulty?

>>15535161
If you have to ask, it's too difficult for you.

>>15535163
I never played it so I have no idea. I don't have it downloaded. I can read average ones well, but am not confident about difficult stuff like Subahibi. My internet is slow so I can't download just to check. Can someone kindly help?

>>15535171
>difficult stuff like Subahibi

Dude, every Redditor knows it's super easy though. They play it as their first game after 3 months of studying.

Not even kidding.

>>15535256
I don't really understand what you want to say, where did reddit come into this? Anyway, for me Subahibi is difficult.

Is White Album 2 average or really difficult? Can anyone help a bit?

>>15535293
Don't you feel ashamed to be worse than a Redditor after 3 months of study?

>>15535293
>White Album 2
It's much more harder than Subahibi.

>>15535317
Thanks for the helpful answer anon. Most people here seem to be extremely spiteful and edgy. Maybe I should have asked in some other thread like DJT,

>>15535348
>maybe I should have asked my question about language learning in the thread for language learning
>instead of the thread for eroge discussion

>>15535348
Don't expect help from /jp/, one of the nastiest boards on 4chan.

>>15535363
We help when question is on-topic, like where to get some older game or how to bypass protection, or which routes to read and so on.
Anything related to reading japanese itself is offtopic and should be asked at DJT.

>>15535377
Where to get games is less on topic than the language within a specific game.

>>15535377
This is the Japanese board so it's natural for people reading Japanese visual novels to come and ask questions here, no need to behave like an elitist.

Anyone played サノバウィッチ? What do you think?

>>15535635
Shit.

>>15535639
Are there many sex scenes in that?

>>15535635
I had fun with it, but the routes were mostly pretty bad.

>>15535676
Really? Which ones did you like? I really hope Nene's route is good

>>15535681
Nene's was probably the best, I liked Tsumugi's even though it was kind of dumb, and Meguru was cute enough to make up for hers. I couldn't stand the other ones.

>>15535691
Ohh great! Thanks anon, Nene a cute.

>>15528967
Clubbox.

Are any denpa titles (particularly ジサツのための１０１の方法) worth playing?

>>15535812
Sayooshi if you haven't

http://www.digination-dmm.com/azurite/shinso/

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>>15499958
I'm reading the sequel to this game right now and I'm not sure how to feel about it. On the one hand, the production values are even higher than the first game (admittedly I'm not extremely well versed in eroge but this is by far the most beautiful VN I've ever played) and I enjoyed the fact that there aren't forced H-scenes every 30 seconds that break the pacing, but I can't really get into the story which feels like it's dragging on, and the characters just aren't as entertaining as the onis from the first game (though I like Youko a whole lot, and the twins are occasionally funny as well). Also the MC looks like a dork. However, there were some genuinely creepy moments which I wasn't expecting and which were not in the first game (except for the big twist I guess). Does it pick up later on? I'm probably only like 5-6 hours in and I read somewhat slowly.

>>15535878
Akeiro is significantly larger than Nanairo with each route (pretty much) going in different directions, stemming from a well sized common route. So, if it feels like it's dragging on, it's because you're actually reading a common route this time, and that's how common routes be. That said, I actually found Akeiro's common route to be pretty packed with action and well paced so our opinions diverge significantly, I had a great time the whole common route, never got bored for a second. Perhaps it helps that I prefer Akeiro's cast to Nanairo's, particularly because Shuuji is based as fuck and Kana is a more interesting, funny character than Kotori in spades. Uhh, anyway though, the routes are classic Fumi, I would say they're worse paced than the common route especially when they temporarily converge, but there's enough interesting stuff going on that they're not bad to read, although I found the plot of Kana's route to be friggin terrible and only saved by her fantastic H-scenes and character in general.

>>15535348
You should have. Questions about learning Japanese and related topic are frowned upon here.

>>15535910
Yeah, I definitely got the feeling that the game is much larger considering I'd pretty much finished a route in the original by the time it took me to get to where I currently am in the sequel. I agree about Kana, it seems that she's less one dimensional than Kotori was at least (Kotori was the only character I sort of disliked in the first game because she was too flawless to the point of being uninteresting which was a shame because she was forced so hard as the main heroine and her route was the only one with real effort put into it) so I'll keep playing. Thanks for sharing your opinion

>>15535925
Also I forgot to mention this but something that stood out to me was that this is the first VN I've read where the highschooler characters actually talk like real actual Japanese highschoolers do (or at least approximate it to a great extent). I have firsthand experience from exchange study in Japan so this was a really pleasant surprise but the again, maybe there are other games that do this too and I'm just inexperienced

>>15535939
Just gotta know where to look

Guys I didn't read any of cation games so far and I dont really have too much time so probably I can only finish one until the july releases, which one do you guys suggest?

>>15535991
LxC1 and 2 are pretty much just focused on dumping H-scenes so goign with whichever has hotter girls to you is wise. I think LxC2 was better written in general, though.

>>15536011
How about the others? There should be 5 of them if I'm not wrong, do all of them just focus on dumping the h-scenes, does any of them has good romance or something like that?

>>15535991
LC2

>>15535939
Who cares about your exchange weeaboo?

And read Romeo's Kobayakawa-san.

>>15536018
Pretty Cation has a writer that's plain inferior to LxCs so it doesn't get as much attention, and Purely Cation is a mess of generic art and DRM scandal so I haven't played it myself (although it's scenarist, orgel I think, is pretty good).

>>15536018
>>15536037
Oh, right, the romance is pretty good, I was really touched by Seine's route in LxC2 in particular, but the game is clearly focused on sex, most CGs are for sex, there's append stuff with more HCGs, etc. I think LxC2 gave more attention to romance, maybe because the writer was trying to improve after LxC1.

>>15535829
>Hamashima Shigeo
>Unabara Nozomu
>Silky's Plus staff
>Shimotsuki Haruka and Ceui songs
Color me very interested. Some of my favorite games of these past years have been staffed by these.

>>15535829
Not really a fan of hamashima's art, but I'll still have to check that out.

>>15536078
People actually like Hamashimas art? Ew.

And having Unabara as the writer is already worrying. Maybe Silky Plus can save it, but I'm gonna be skeptical until it comes out.

>>15536045
Alright, I'm going with LxC2 then since the art seems better than LxC1.

One more little question, Currently I'm downloading LxC2 game itself and 12 append disc for every month, is there anything else like special birthday append etc or are those everything?

>>15533078
Route order doesn't matter. Chinese girl is the main heroine if that matters to you.

I don't remember how long the routes are.

All of the Cation series have a spam of H-scene after the confession, but usually the build up to the confession is pretty good so I play the series for that. Btw Purely Cation is horriable.

>>15536630
>usually the build up to the confession is pretty good
Gotta disagree.. just went through the nurse's route in Lovely Cation 1 and the build up to the confession was god awful. There wasn't a scrap of chemistry between them. The only enjoyable part of the whole thing was the two times the Nurse joked around lewdly with MC, those were real cougar moments I enjoyed, everything else was snoozefest.

>>15536638
As >>15535991 to be honest I was expecting way more positive recommends since a couple people were talking about them as best moeges etc, but from the comments so far they don't seem that good for sure. Well I guess I'll just try and see with my own eyes.