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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_(Kinoko_Nasu)

So I decided to learn a bit more about the Dead Apostles before going back to Tsukihime, but I found out that most of the so called 27 dead apostles had a real story, and at least 5 of them were "the strongest among the rest".
The best part is that there's nothing mentioned about where that shit came out, and it obviously doesn't come from Tsukihime, where the only Dead Apostles in the story line and Roa and Nero.
Anyone minds telling me where all that shit in shittypedia comes from?

pic related, it's one of the troll vampires.

>> No.1537614
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>>1537612
Quite a few of those vampires were supposed to appear in Tsukihime 2: The Dark Six. However, Nasu hasn't said anything about actually working on it.

You might want to see "Character Material", too.

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>>1537614
Apostles, I mean.

>> No.1537618
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Fuck it, I'll just post all the Character Material.

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>> No.1537625
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Fuck yeah, Aoko

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>> No.1537629
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This is the original Shirou. Before Takeuchi convinced Nasu to genderswitch for an h-game conversion.

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This is original Saber. He was true to his gender, but it was switched as well.

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>> No.1537642
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First of all, she's supposed to be in Tsukihime 2 as well

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>> No.1537647
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Young Touko is moe.

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>>1537618
Do so if it's not a bother, you never know when someone who reads moon could translate them, so I'll keep them just in case.

Btw, I found a few of those in my Type-Moon folder, are they related?

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>>1537649
>>1537635

also
fuck yes hisui

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>> No.1537656
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This is a small series that Nasu was gonna flesh out called Angel Notes.

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>>1537656
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XQHP02PC

This is what's translated of Angel Notes.

The setting owns, hard.

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And here's a sword from Angel Notes

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And how it works

>> No.1537665
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Phantasmoon is awesome

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>> No.1537671
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Also appears in The Dark Six.

>> No.1537672
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Obviously an Anderson clone.

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Also this dude fucking owns

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>>1537674
In this case, this guy is from F/SN.

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Mordred's design...

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>>1537679
And obviously inspired Saber's genderswap design.

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fuck yes Schweinstein

>> No.1537685
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FUUUUUUUCK ILYA IS HOT

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moe~

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>>1537692
magical amber~

>> No.1537695
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Arika...

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>>1537695
and Kaie are from the series Decoration Disorder Disconnection, or DDD. Those novels are actually really good, check them out.

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>>1537699

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!

>> No.1537706
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Gransurg, yet another character in Tsukihime 2.

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>>1537706

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>>1537616
>>1537618
Merem Solomon is a big enemy in Tsukihime 2, as well. I posted him here...these are his "limbs".

Solomon 2.

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>>1537717

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The rat is his left arm.

The King of Earth, his right leg, is over 200 meters long.

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>>1537725
He originally wanted to craft it as a dog, but because of his poor artistic talent the shape ended up being closer to a legged whale.

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His right arm is the The Lady Windup.
A living mechanical statue shaped like a girl, approximately 10 meters tall. It’s made of an accumulation of personal-use weaponry from approximately a hundred years ago and it possesses a very limited intelligence, which causes her to confuse orders very often and makes her difficult to control. She also has a shrine built on her stomach.

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>>1537728
Merem apparently doesn’t like taking her out too much.

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>>1537729
Not really.

His left leg is the King of Sky. A flying giant monster similar to a multicolor Manta Ray, specialized in combat against a single super-powerful enemy. It possesses an enormous destructive potential, but because it is destroyed after dealing damage Merem considers it too consuming to use often. Like the Right Leg, it has no mind of its own.

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>>1537735

>> No.1537747
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I already posted ORT.

So here's Miyako.

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>> No.1537750
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And here's where we start to see today's F/SN

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Gilgamesh's spaceship.

>> No.1537759
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http://rapidshare.com/files/39002601/_Type_Moon__Character_material.rar.html

This is all of it.

Also, I omitted lots of pages with nothing but text.

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>>1537755

>> No.1537791
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Eye'm the strongest.

>> No.1537585

NASU made more than just Tsukihime

>> No.1537588

>>1537576
Nasu planned more stuff than Tsukihime's story in that world setting.
Just didn't use them.
Enhance is mentioned once in Tsukihime though.

>> No.1537589

I did some character material and it's also in my notebook if that helps

>> No.1537612

>>1537585
OP here.
I already know, but the only vampire troll from FSN is Kishua Zelretch Schweinorg, and it's not really that he has any reason to be in the plot, it's just a cameo.
I also pointed why some trolls never appeared in Tsukihime as they are said to be killed by Shiki.
Oh, and some time a go I read a thread about Type-moon in /a/(yes, /a/) about Shiki not being able to harm some shit that came from another world, and I thought it was this ORT guy, I wish it wasn't 6 am back then, so I could actually remember better.

Anyway, if most of that shit was planned but not used, it pretty much explains why all this crap seems so out of place, next time I try to read this kind of shit I'll try to have finished all routes of FSN and Tsukihime, just incase.

>> No.1537617

>>1537612
ORT does not know how to die.
to learn this you must read character material books.
these books are released at comiket.

>> No.1537648

>>1537629
>>1537635
I plan to one day personally kill Takeuchi. I will make sure he knows exactly why as I wring the life out of him.

>> No.1537652

>>1537649
Nevermind, it obviously is.

>> No.1537677

>>1537674
Waver did get taller.

>> No.1537704

>>1537679
Where was Mordred going to appear?

>> No.1537729

Have any of these pages from the Character Material been translated?

>> No.1537736

>>1537576

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_(Kinoko_Nasu)

>Vampire_(Kinoko_Nasu)

Nasu is... a vampire???

>> No.1537739

>>1537736
Oh, the funnie

>> No.1537754

>>1537748
Master panda is what China + Nanaya would be

>> No.1537757

>>1537747
Her design really changed a lot.
I think she's now even more loli

>> No.1537777

>>1537748
Panda "Gyokusai to shire!"

>> No.1537801

wow, now I just need someone who reads moon to translate them for me, but I still can't thank you enough for your help.
getting someone to translate will take a while though, so I still want to know about Miyako, I mean, all I know is that she is playable at meltan and that she must have something to do with those Arima that Shiki used to live with, how does she fit in the story?

>> No.1537811

>>1537801
Miyako Arima (有間 都古, Arima Miyako?)

* Birthday: 4 May
* Bloodtype: O
* Height: 131cm
* Weight: 35kg
* 60/46/62

Shiki's non-blood related cousin who became friends with him when he was staying away from the Tohno family ever since the events of eight years ago. She is annoyed at the lack of contact she has had since the events of Tsukihime, and attempts to 'rescue' him from the Tohno family in Melty Blood. However, this triggers a side of Kohaku that should not be awakened.

>> No.1537837

informative thread

>> No.1537841

ok, it's done, everything I needed to know about Type-Moon was answered or will have an answer soon, I can't thank enough the Anons that made this possible, now I feel even more motivated to finish Tsukihime and FSN as soon as I get the chance.

>> No.1538026

I'd kill to see Shiki and cia travel to the Vatican or to England. I wanna know more about the Clock Tower magi and the Burial agency.

>> No.1538044

Quick question. Who will try to stop Ort when he goes on a rampage in Earth? Other types?

>> No.1538052

>>1538044
Desperately, all of humanity all over again.

Good old times.
And a lonely man, carrying the Black Barrel will appear.

>> No.1538301
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Hey guys are we discussing power levels?

>> No.1538304
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>>1538301
Yes, fanmade material is always welcome.

>> No.1538150

Anyone has the entire powerlevel list in Nasu's world?

>> No.1538155

>>1538150
Fanmade speculated shit is fanmade.

>> No.1538171

>>1538150
ORT > Arcueid > Everyone else

>> No.1538181

>>1538171
Arcueid on her Homeground though (Earth) may have the advantage.
But ORT transfroms everything around her to her Homeworld...

>> No.1538187

>>1538181
>>1538171
Arc still has her MP though

>> No.1538202

>>1538187
And what Natural event can you cause on something that survives space travel and being underground/water?

>> No.1538231

>>1537675
Oh hey it's Toki.

>> No.1538242

Is there a Type Earth? Seriously...

>> No.1538243

>>1538202
I got no idea but Nasu will think of something

>> No.1538274

>>1538242
Primate Murder is the closes you get.

>> No.1538275

>>1538202
Stabbing the Death of the universe.

>> No.1538276

>>1538242

Arcueid is a failed prototype. She was made by reverse engineering Type Moon.

>> No.1538280

Wasn't the reason Type-moon and everyone else showed up because the earth HAD no Type-Earth?
So it wanted someone else to come help get rid of the human infestation?

>> No.1538286

>>1538276
Actually, All true Ancestors are based on Type Moon.
The more powerful ones Earned the Brunestud title.

When the last natural guy who could do shit like Summonning the Millenium Castle or the Crimson Moon died, they tried to MAKE one.

First result was Altrouge, a Dead Apostle/True Ancestor hybrid.

Then, you Have Arcueid.

And since Type-Moon was a guy who took precautions, he can possibly come back through anyone who shares his bloodline, though that Limits us to 1-2 people now.

>> No.1538288

>>1538280
Earth always had Counter Forces, but when human went rampant, it realized it had nothing to deal with them properly.

Hence asking mr Crimson Brunestud.

>> No.1538291

>>1538286
Altrouge is awesome.

>> No.1539667

age

>> No.1539800

I wish i had a rapidshare of these images.

>> No.1539816

>>1539800
DownThemAll
/https?\:\/\/[a-z]{2,3}\.4chan\.org/[a-z0-9]{1,9001}\/src\/[^\/\?]+\.(jpg|gif|png|jpeg)$/

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>>1537762
>>1537755
Gil's chair.

>>1540124
ORT is officially immune to Shiki's eyes

>> No.1539955

>>1538202
We need Shiki for this. One stab and you're done, no matter what you are. Unless you're a concept instead of a being, but only 2 dead apostles can pull that shit up.

>> No.1539991

>>1537747
>>1537748
FAP FAP FAP

>> No.1540045

>>1539955
ORT has no concept of death, Shiki can't do shit.

>> No.1540080

>>1539800

see >>1537759

>> No.1540124

>>1540045
Neither did Arcueid, yet Shiki could kill her.
It just depends from where he extracts his power

>> No.1540128

>>1538150
ORT > Crimson Moon > Primate Murder > Zelretch > Gilgamesh > Arcueid ≥ Black Sakura > Berserker = Black Saber ≥ Saber > Lancer > Rider = Archer > Caster ≥ Aoko = Nrvnqsr = Kouma = Barthomeloi ≥ Kojirou > Ciel ≥ Great Teacher Hassan (GTH) ≥ "Ryougi Shiki" > V Sion = AC Satsuki = R.Shiki = Bazett ≥ Akiha = Fujino = Araya ≥ Touko = Alba ≥ 18th Roa > > SHIKI = Kiri = Reinforced Kuzuki ≥ Sion = UBW Shirou > ha Avenger > Nanaya = Rin = Kotomine = Zouken = Leysritt > Satsuki ≥ Rio = Avalon Shirou > ha Sakura > Salaryman Dead = Ilya = Corpse ≥ Azaka ≥ Misayo > Kirie = Zombie ≥ Dragon Tooth Warrior ≥ Fuji-nee > Shinji > Fake Shiki

http://www.fatestaynight.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=894&sid=8c4e723667d4b478da80dc3254fc834e

>> No.1540129

>>1540124
Shiki was unable to kill Arcueid under a full moon as she had no lines or points. He was forced to kill her connection to Gaia.

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All the dead apostles are rippoffs of other characters

the only way tsukihime 2 will be entertaining at all is if kohaku is the final boss again.

Or if sacchin is in it ALOT.

>> No.1541145

>Gilgamesh > Arcueid
>Lancer > Rider = Archer
>Caster ≥ Aoko = Nrvnqsr = Kouma

yeah, like hell that's right

>> No.1541159

>>1537576
What is that? Fable?

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>>1541197
True

>> No.1541173

>>1541145
Arc is question is 30% Arc
Archer isn't that good of a servant.
Nero can be killed by nexxing all his beasts at once. Beam Spam.

>> No.1541176

>>1541145
Nasu said all that himself. Some fags try to say Gil is only stronger than 30% arc, but they're full of shit. Nasu clearly said that Gil owns Arc.

>> No.1541181

>>1541173
I don't see that Caster really had anything that could even kill Nero, except maybe a couple of her most high-end magic attacks. Damage to Nero's body does nothing at all to him.

>> No.1541185

Aoko > everyone in terms of sexiness

>> No.1541192

This must be some Fable stuff. Hey Fable fags! Fable is gay!

>> No.1541197

If she got off her ass and used her Argon Coin... Still though, Nero's only two outstanding features were godly numbers of familiars and amazing regenerative capabilities. A Big enough beam large enough to consume his whole body and all his familiars could kill him, I don't see any reason Caster wouldn't use here high end hax spells on him either.

>> No.1541204

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>> No.1541218

>>1541197
Probably for the same reason that Nero fucked around with Shiki for so long: she'd underestimate him.

>> No.1541221

>>1541197
except that caster didn't have any awesome spell and wasn't worth shit in any route.
then again, rule breaker is so abusable, she could cancel Nero's marble phantasm and beat the crap out of him, so yeah, superior caster is still superior.

>> No.1541225

>>1541197

Trick him into using his super condensed form, then kill him.

>> No.1541242

>>1541234

G-Akiha route.

>> No.1541244

>>1540128
Wrong, Kouma = Berserker.

>> No.1541249

>>1541221
Rule Breaker nullified only certain magical bonds and contracts. Something like Nero's Reality Marble is an internal structure native only to him... I doubt it could be borked by Rule Breaker.

>>1541197
Caster can't use the Argon Coin. She doesn't know the proper ritual to use it.

>> No.1541336

>1541249
better then, it means that caster can't do shit at Nero or Aoko and is the most fail servant ever, and sexy.

>> No.1541343

Is this a powerlevel thread?

>> No.1541344

You guys can keep playing Fable, I'm gonna go have a real life.

>> No.1541358

Hey, guess what, faggots? Number of circuits ≠ ability to win. Alba, by the number of his circuits alone, can be considered a high-ranking magus superior to Araya and Touko, but look how his pitiful little mind got raped just by those psychos glaring at 'em. The fact is that a lot of the dangerous bad guys tend to not be that great as magi. This is usually made up for by certain unique abilities, overwhelming ingenuity, or backed up by extraordinary combat prowess. Araya, Kotomine, and Kurokiri are actually mediocre as pure magi. Roa alternates from "get killed by Arc/Ciel every other day" horrendously weak to "kill an Aristotle/Ryougi with a wave of his hand" Godhax. Aoko, in fact, only has 1 magic circuit and still has her true magic. Of course, she's actually pisspoor besides her Fifth Magic Time Travel, which is useless combat wise; she'd be easily raped by any of these aforementioned guys, her sister (who studies harder and is rightfully stronger), and either Caster Servant we've seen in a straight on fight; that‘s right, she isn‘t that strong as you guys make her out to be.

>> No.1541367

>>1541358

She's still the sexiest though.

>> No.1541368

>>1541358
>Fifth Magic Time Travel

Uh... Aoko's true magic is never defined. And it most certainly wouldn't be time travel.

>> No.1541375

>>1541367
Voted most likely to すごい

>> No.1541388

>>1541368

Dust of Osiris begs to differ.

>> No.1541399

>>1541368

"Zelretch moves horizontally in space. Aoko moves vertically space." Or something along those lines. Well, regardless, she fucking time travels. It's obvious.

>> No.1541422

>>1541399

Maybe that just means she can hover.

>> No.1541428

>>1541358

Remember the days when Aoko was still badass and Roa wasn't cheap as hell?

I miss them too.

>> No.1541429

>>01

>> No.1541432

>>1541368
Aoko's Magic is blowing shit up somehow. Isn't time travel the *second* Magic? And with no known user, either.

>> No.1541446

>>1541432
Anyone who is a magus can blow shit up, Aoko is particulatly good at it because of her huge circuit. MBAA all but confirms Aoko as a time traveler.

>> No.1541454

>>1541432

First: Denial of Nothingness (Deceased)
Second: Opperation of Parallel Worlds (Zelretch; can go to different dimensions)
Third: Heaven's Feel (Motou family; creating something out of nothing)
Fourth: Unknown
Fifth: PROBABLY Time Travel (VERY LIKELY) (Aoko Aozaki)

>> No.1541472

>>1541454
>Third: Heaven's Feel (Motou family; creating something out of nothing)
Wrong on everything but it being Heaven's Feel

>> No.1541476

No wonder Type-Moon sells so much. They brainwash their fans.

Why do you need so much useless information anyway? Only it was from a good game, but no.

>> No.1541496

>>1541472

Einzbern, actually. Kind of confused the two names since both families are equally fucked up.

And yeah, it's making a soul into a physical object (turning pure information physical), but the Grail war devolved into people fighting over a wish that would come out of nowhere, so...

Well, Kotomine right fucked everything up. Asshole.

>> No.1541513

>>1541454
The Third is by the Illyasviel's and it was materialization of the soul.

>> No.1541515

>>1541496
Kotomine was the only one with a genuine wish from the heart.

>> No.1541534

>>1541515

Yeah. Stemming from the fact that he was inherently an asshole. Roa and Soren thought of themselves as machines; not so much people as entities made from a singular compulsion. Kotomine was human, but the only thing he found happiness in was being evil, even if that's not what he wanted to be. He's still a jackass.

>> No.1541543

>>1541534
Roa, Araya, and Kotomine are a lot alike, though. All three are hellbent on discovering the truth of man, no matter how much evil they have to commit.

Kotomine wanted evil to be born from the Grail so that he could understand himself, because he was always evil from the beginning. He just stopped struggling and decided to try and understand why.

>> No.1541547

>>1541534

That's what I like about Type-Moon villains. They know how tremendously fucked up on the inside they are. Kotomine's only difference from the other two is really that he stopped caring about how fucked up he was a little later down the line and replaced "find eternity" and "find Akasha" with "find more creative ways to be a douche."

>> No.1541554

>>1541547
Like I said, Kotomine wanted to witness the birth of ultimate evil. It's basically the same as the others, just more destructive and bastardly.

>> No.1541558

Why does it SEEM like Nasu has enough material to make a new story, yet his new works are just remakes and rewrites of old work?

>> No.1541560

>>1541558
Troll inc.

>> No.1541566

PROTIP: Soren, Roa, and Kotomine all have brown, curly hair and act like pure, unadulterated hate machines who‘re not happy till everyone around them is not happy. They each have a much blonder, much more emotional, sadistically inclined counterpart: Lio, SHIKI, and Gilgamesh respectively.

>> No.1541571

>>1541566
Personality-wise, they're all dissimilar.

When looked at generically, the motives you list are every villain in history.

>> No.1541584

this thread makes me feel like i know nothing about the nasu-verse

where do read about this stuff besides TMwiki?

>> No.1541589

>>1541584
Playing the games, of course!

>> No.1541613

>>1541554

They all had their high points. Roa was definitely the most powerful of them all in the end (Soren even respected him or something). Soren seemed to be doing the most sinister and macabre things; he took "toying with human lives" to a new extreme. Kotomine probably would have caused the greatest catastrophe if he had succeeded.

>> No.1541616

>>1541589

But those are bad

>> No.1541691

Roa's true motive is that he adored Type Moon and wanted to become closer to her/him

The only reason why he bothers with Arcueid is because she's a vessel for Type Moon

Actress Again explains this

>> No.1541698

Why does Gilgamesh have a spaceship

>> No.1541700

>>1541691
>adored Type Moon

I thought you were talking about the company for a second. Talk about a self-insert.

>> No.1541703

>>1541698
He has the money.

>> No.1541715

>>1541698
Why not?

>> No.1541724

>>1538044
ORT simply doesn't really care about Earth. It's just asleep.
It's the other DAs that you have to worry about.

>> No.1541726

>>1541698
How else would he beat Berserker using a F-15 fighter jet as a NP?

>> No.1541734

Magical Amber is the best Type Moon character. She is a clusterfuck of moe done right.

>> No.1541735

>>1541698
Yeah, why a spaceship? Should have been a giant mech, ESPECIALLY considering who his VA is

>> No.1541739

>>1541691

Doesn't that kind of contradict the whole "I thought, within you, I saw the perfect eternity I had been seeking. That's why you were dazzling in my eyes" thing that he had going on throughout Tsukihime? It also contradicts the whole "My original goal was merely that of absolute eternity for the sake of it, but now I have an alternate purpose. I want to go through eternity by her side... It seems she's corrupted the purity of my goals" thing, too.

Well, whatever. It's not the first time shits gone down with Roa like this. More to refute that he's the biggest pile of LOLNASU in existence.

>> No.1541761

Usually I get involved in the LOLNASU powerlevel discussions as it makes my balls feel big. But I'm not going to tonight as all I really have to say is...

>>1537647
Young Touko IS moe.

>> No.1541788

watching people discuss the nasuverse is hilarious because it always sounds like a conversation between paranoid schizophrenics

>> No.1541790

>>1541788
FUCK YOU CHRIS I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE

>> No.1541951

>>1541698
Some Hindu legend about space ships. Also plot device to find Berserker flying a motherfucking F-15.

>> No.1541977

>>1541234
This looks fucking awesome.

Now if they'd just use the melty blood engine or something and made it into a fighting game combined with a VN, it'd be perfect.

>> No.1542001

>And since Type-Moon was a guy who took precautions, he can possibly come back through anyone who shares his bloodline, though that Limits us to 1-2 people now.

There's no limit, per say. All the still living (read: asleep) Shinso are capable of manifesting Type-Moon. It's because of the Reality Marble he created and then implanted in all Shinso. It's just that the inactive ones won't activate to attempt to reach the potential to trigger the Marble--Arc and Altrouge are your highest potential, baring any Ancestor awoken by whatever the hell the Dark Six will do.

>> No.1542002

>>1537759

Wow, that's pretty small

>> No.1542018

>>1540045
That ORT has a mention in T2 would alledge that SOMETHING involved with Shiki or his fellows will take care of him, somehow. Remember that the powerlevel talk really means very little in the face of Nasu's scripts.

>> No.1542027

>>1541181
Untrue. Stats aside, Nero needs enough energy for his Reality Marble to properly function. That means that anybody with enough beamspam or the like can possibly chip at him with enough force that he can't just maintain the Lair of the Beast King within himself. The planet would see it, immediately correct it, and Nero would be easy pickings. The trick is to have the capability or a plan that would wear him down that much without being caught by his Soil of Genesis.

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posting some angel notes
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>>1542322
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>>1542325
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>>1542328
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>>1542336
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>>1542342
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>>1542351
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>>1542358
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>>1542361

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>>1542367
that was 10, this is 11

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>>1542370
and 12 the last one

>> No.1542335

HOW in the name of everything has the thread gone this far and the ORT copypasta hasn't been put in yet?

>> No.1542346

>>1542335
It hardly seemed real. I had finally come face to face with the creature known as ORT. I had been warned that I would most likely be killed instantly, but events took a stranger turn.

"So... You're ORT? Impressive."
<YOU POSSESS IT.>
"It? What might that be?"
<THE GLAND. YOU POSSESS THE GLAND, HUMAN. IT DEMANDS THAT WE COPULATE WITHOUT DELAY.>
"I'm sure you're a nice... Person... But I'm not reall-"
<ENOUGH. INSERT YOUR HUMAN PENIS INTO MY GENITAL OPENING.>

With the strengh and power of a great white shark, one of ORT's tentacles shot out and tore my clothes from my body, while another stimulated my member.

"Jeez, is everyone on Mercury this forward? There'll be hell to pay if Arc finds out about this..."

Despite my protests, I was responding to ORT's caress. There was no avoiding it now.

"Are you ready?"
<PROCEED.>
"Um... Am I doing it right?"
<THAT IS MY LEFT NOSTRIL, HUMAN. TRY ONCE MORE.>
"How about... Here?"
<...ACCEPTABLE. DO NOT DELAY ANY LONGER, OUR GLANDS CALL OUT FOR ONE ANOTHER.>

I needed no further persuasion.

>> No.1542348

>>1542346
I thrust into the creature known as the strongest among the twenty-seven dead apostle ancestors with all my strength. Her tentacles quivered like the flesh of a mollusk. Again and again I penetrated the enormous creature. It was all too clear what would happen to me if I didn't satisfy the Type-Mercury.

<PERHAPS... HUMANS ARE NOT AS WORTHLESS AS I BELIEVED.>

If I didn't know better, I would have thought the creature was blushing.

"I'll show you not to take us lightly, ORT."
<I'D... LIKE TO SEE THAT!>

I held off my own climax with all my strength, my partner wouldn't tolerate such a failure. But soon enough, she had reached the same point as I.

"ORT... I'm..."
<DEPOSIT YOUR REPRODUCTIVE CELLS INTO MY GENITAL OPENING, HUMAN!>
"Yes ma'am!"

I continued one with renewed vigor. I knew we were both close.

"Ugh... I'm..."
<YES.>

I shuddered as climax came at last, I shot my seed into what I had only guessed was her most intimate of places.

>> No.1542352

>>1542348
<SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEE!!>

Just then, my world went red. My eardrums had exploded under the force of ORT's cry of passion. As I lost consciousness, I prayed that my lover did not share the spider's habit of eating their mates.

>> No.1542379

>>1542352
I lol'd, pretty hard too.

>> No.1542388

there is also a "Talk" from the character materiel thats like a prelude to tsukihime 2

>> No.1542399

>>1542388
Tsukihime 2 will come after the remake of the first one. Their doing a remake to get interest again and new fans, so expect it within a few years.

>> No.1543021

When did actress again get a translation? I dont remember this.

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