/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>15250002
Who's this semen drinker?

>>15250017
http://wikiwiki.jp/aigiszuki/?%CE%D0%BF%B9%A4%CE%C8%D6%BF%CD%A5%D5%A5%A6%A5%AB

Warmly waiting for the gallery update.

Wtf happened to all the nsfw channels on the Nutaku discords? I could understand if discord removed itself. If not though pretty retarded since they are practically all adult games.

>>15250392
nutaku closed them down as there was too much talk about their censorship

>>15250392
Nutaku don't wants R-18 content in their chats, not even if the game is an R-18, the official words has been "Think about the kids!".
Not even kidding.
There's another FKG channel, not official though, you can join it from this link: https://discord.gg/0y2OMBHHoBXOu8jP

>>15250474
Guess they weren't satisfied with just censoring their games and had to move to the chats as well. Can't wait to see what they would do with an official forum if they ever made one.

>>15250536
They have no issues with people talking about censorship, as long as you do it in a civil manner and don't detail the censored scene in question.

I hear that they delete Facebook posts against them, though. If so, that's bad.

>>15250550
>They have no issues with people talking about censorship, as long as you do it in a civil manner and don't detail the censored scene in question.
Usually censorship defendants are causing more trouble when censorship is brought up in discussion. Blame of it is given to censorship criticizers being riling up censorship defendants. on another note. Moderators of these nutaku chats are almost dumb as boot and can't be reasoned with. Only difference is that boot can't write.

>I hear that they delete Facebook posts against them, though. If so, that's bad.
They do it but not so frantically anymore.

Nutakus actions is therefore is causing huge amount of mistrust between those two extremes and between nutaku and anti-censorship faction causing most anti-censorship dudes and dudets to jump ship to DMM.

>>15250637
> Moderators of these nutaku chats are almost dumb as boot and can't be reasoned with
Funny enough, one is from ULMF community, and other one is from this very thread and was playing on DMM before.

>>15250691
I rest my case

http://sanahtlig.blogspot.fi/2016/05/nutaku-and-difficulties-of-marketing-adult-games.html

>>15250835
>As a single cog in the vast machine of the PornHub network, Nutaku must abide by their content guidelines or have their lifeline of new visitors cut off. These guidelines appear to be severely restrictive: Nutaku has censored a wide variety of content in their games, including lolis, tentacle scenes (bestiality), blood, religious garb and symbols, and symbols of bondage.
>Nutaku is legally based in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg. We are not bound by Canadian content restrictions.

gee golly nutaku did some stuff to their page

>>15250945
>Brave Soul
>20% sale
>1200 gold = 12$

They gotta be fucking kidding me, i've bought that game when there was Win98 for 10$ or so.

>>15250835
>>15250847
Right, so this is the method to Nutaku's madness. Some observations:

1. They are not limited by their payment processors or legal issues, per se. They censor things because they cannot get visitors through their networking agreements otherwise.
2. It follows that they are indeed censoring things purely for profit, which is both understandable and prone to change. You just need to convince them that they will profit more without the censors.
3. They are in fact aware that censorship cuts into their revenue and want to eliminate it. The rules of their network are as loose as they are retarded, allowing them to change things back once their games are no longer new and subject to close scrutiny.

This is good to hear. I do not hold with censorship of any kind, and people should definitely play on DMM until Nutaku fixes its issues, but it's good to know that Nutaku is aware that there are issues and willing to work about them.

Awesome store pages for VNs.
So much information about game they ask 36 USD for, whole 4 lines of description and some screenshots (w/out h-content screenshots)!

I didn't think it was possible to make worse store pages than what MG has.

Just realized, they didn't use the godawful name for Dendrobium that they established in Oncidium's Character Quest. Guess they booted that guy off the name translating team.

Hopefully they will eventually revert the in-game names too.

Finally got a flower. No upgrades. Yay.

>>15251320
I'm at level skill level 4 and had 1 failure. Yay

>10+1 Gacha results in 8 bronze and 3 Silver
>Cepha, Lilac and a dupe Sweet Pea
>Do the Seed Gacha to clear Gacha Seeds
>Gets this
This game is completely screwing with me.

>>15251406
Are you a magician?
I had two 5-stars and three 4-stars on my last roll.

>>15251150
Yes please. I'd rather see Alstroemeria than Alstroe Maria. There was no need to "humanize" names in the first place.

>>15250637
>causing most anti-censorship dudes and dudets to jump ship to DMM.
This is funny because all of DMM's scenes are censored.

>>15251150
I can't speak for all of them, but the names are still hanging around in some places. You can see Mountain Lily's proposed name in her profile and in the description of her event flowers.

It's pretty obvious that they made the changes after the fact, probably at the last minute, after all of the negative feedback.

But I'll take what I can get. Now if they'd just retroactively fix the existing ones...

>>15251669
Eh, I'd rather take the "Whatever you desire with mosaics" game over the "Only what we choose without mosaics" game.

>>15251669
I care much more that entire characters that the game was designed around are removed from Nutaku than that there aren't badly photoshopped genitals on DMM.

>>15251669
funky as might be but DMM does censor less than nutaku

>>15251669
Yeah, I'd understand if they went over to DMM FKG cause of content, but going from one censored piece to where every piece is censored because of censorship is funny.

>>15251669
>>15251669
Except the artists don't put much effort into drawing the genitals, because they knew it would be censored on DMM, so you get some half assed genital art on Nutaku, plus all of the retarded crap that comes with Nutaku edits/removals.

>>15251710
A lot of them do actually put effort into it, Its just far easier to notice the ones that don't. The ones that don't deserve to be censored though, they can ruin the whole picture.

>>15251673
All those cute archer girls

What am I looking at, fellow Anons. What are these games?

Are they interesting?

>>15251768
Mobile gacha games for PCs. And they satiate your gambling addiction in one way or another, plus kill time if you got time to spare. And no, is not healthy, and overall horrible way to spend your time and in worst case, money.

I suggest you run away now.

>>15251768
Aigis is a tower defense game and very fun, the others are more niche and are more about collecting girls, you'd need to play them to decide whether you'd like them.

>>15251777
I figured they'd be waste of times like that, just by quickly glancing at the pages. Didn't want to out-right say it because I thought people would accuse me of coming in to troll.

The games and the idea of tonnes of people playing and getting addicted to them makes me sad. I couldn't imagine the amount of time they could probably take-up, or how much money they could suck-up by abusing the average NEETs sad and broken mind.

Tell me more about how these games work, though. I only looked at screenshots and some intro animation thing, so I dunno much. I'm guessing all the games work the same? You get pretty girls, and/or collect thingies; how you get the thingies is heavily tilted against you; you can have collecting thingies less-tilted if you pay money?

Just curious to know, because seeling people's lives get stolen away by skinnerbox games makes me sad, but it's interesting to know how those games work, because they can be so enginuously crafted.

Or just tell me more about pretty girls.

>>15251791
Most of these games are basically the same with only minor details. There's are exceptions like Aigis (tower defense), but usually the "gameplay" is nothing but watching more (pre-determined, you can't do anything) or less (you can actually do something like selecting your targets, activating skills, etc.) RNG-dependent battles. Make sure to add not cute girls (common), cute girls (rare), very cute girls (very rare, usually behind the paywall) and top qts (far behind the paywall). Make sure the player can taste paid character lotteries (give him some premium gacha tickets or some currency otherwise available only for real money) so he can get addicted and spend more.

Higher mechanism, at least in the worst case of mobile gaming, has few steps:
1. Make a game with cute girls and paid lotteries
2. Add minimal amount of new content ('events') bi-weekly. Focus on new cute girls in paid lotteries, but give 1-2 cute girls to everyone who completed the 'event' (don't make them too strong, though).
3. Get money
4. Try to attract more players in the meantime
5. Kill your game and make a new one with almost the same mechanics and "2" in title
6. Repeat.

>>15251811
Don't forget ranking events for the worst experience.

>>15251811
That's quite interesting. Thanks for the explanation, Anon.

But jeez, that sounds so blatantly exploitative. They outright kill their games and put-out the exact same thing, and everyone falls for it? Or by "kill", do you mean people just reach a point of satiation because they bought all the Top QTs, so they put-out the same game with either a novel theme or a II in it?

>>15251791
Lots and lots of pretty girls, some games don't need money at all to do everything like FKG, some games like Aigis its very useful to spend some money to get some decent girls at the start then you'd be set, you could just as easily get lucky and not need to spend money, though good luck getting specific girls, thats where people spend money.

A lot of people don't spend a penny on these games and are fine, those that have money can spend it and won't always get what they want but still get useful things. Then there's the whales that spend $1000s to get a single girl and just don't give a fuck. Then there's the crazy bastard who has 15 Aishas, I shudder to think of how much that cost.

Only the little games get killed, the bigs ones are several years old.

>>15251791
Its most effiecent to at high level to play Aigis twice a day, you spend less time than you'd think unless you're spending SC to play more. Its the early levels where you play the game a lot more.

>>15251834
You can see the exploitation in mainstream games too. Just look at the most recent COD games. RNG lotteries to get rare, specific guns. Just that in this case, it's waifus instead.

It's not illegal since there are free, albeit grindy ways to get the same items, and paying only speeds up the process.

Games die when whales stop supporting the game and/or the playerbase declines. It happened to Nutaku's first DMM localization already.

>>15251846
Wait, thousands of dollars to get a single, specific girl?

There's no way the people who pay for that shit have jobs, or at least, one high-paying enough to afford it. And I really doubt there parents would allow them to spend that kind of mone either. Unless their parents are rich or some shit, and who due to workaholism never instilled any kind of work-ethic in their offspring. I'm also going to guess by "whales", you mean those people tend to be fat?

I can understand something like letting hundreds, or maybe a few thousands bucks slowly slip away from you over the years, without realizing it, in order to buy TF2 hats. But not some shitty, top qt whatever in the above games.

Just, wat.

>>15251886
>Just, wat.
Welcome to new era of eroge.

How does AW Sybilla at max skill compare to Ingrid? It seems like Sybilla beats the shit out of the plat magic fencers and Ingrid in pure stats as they don't hit ranged enemys with 100% attack but Ingrid shoud be comparable right?

Also 40 seconds attack power increases the range of 1.7 times the magic sword awakening for Sybilla SAW means 280 range and 1.7x attack with no assasinating?

>>15251886
People regularly spend entire paychecks to get the latest cute girl in these games.

People are crazy.

You're kinda naive aren't you, this is why these games are so nice to free players, the whales spend thousands and everyones happy.

I'm no whale yet, I've only spent $400 ($100 a month) on one game, also not fat. I know of loads who've spent more and some who rarely advertize that they've spent tons.

>>15251886
You're kinda naive aren't you, this is why these games are so nice to free players, the whales spend thousands and everyones happy.

I'm no whale yet, I've only spent $400 ($100 a month) on one game, also not fat. I know of loads who've spent more and some who rarely advertize that they've spent tons.

>>15251931
$100 a month on a game sounds pretty whaley to me already.

>>15251940
Maybe, 1 or 2 more months and I'm probably there. I just compare myself to the big whales I guess.

Huh, bronze soldiers have cool looking sprites nowadays.

>>15251931
Yes, I understand the idea that a tiny fraction of a playerbase being the foundation of a game's revenue model is a thing. Though I don't see how the thread of logic follows:

>wat, how and why do people pay so much for this shit?
>those people paying are why others can have a decent experience for free. you're naive.

Still, I'm fascinated by this stuff. I've been under an Internet rock for quite a while and this is all new to me.

>>15251979
I didn't mean to offend you, I just thought it was cute how you denied it could be posible to spend thousands at once.

@everyone
Skill Blooms now have a 100% chance of upgrading Mountain Lily's skill.
Please note that gathered items (Skill and Dress Blooms) and now character specific, and can only be used on Mountain Lily.
NOTE: The above behavior applies to only Skill Blooms obtained after the patch.

>>15251791>>15251886
back to lebbet, niggerfaggot

>>15251995
Nothing to do with being offended, friend. Your logic just didn't make sense to me.

And it wasn't a denial, per se. Just trying to understand what kind of people spend that kind of money. I don't doubt for a second that people running home to spend their paychecks on top QTs, like >>15251901 said, is a thing.

That, and I've personally known people with rich daddies that have spent shitloads of money on games and stuff, as well as people who work a normal job and still spend lots of money on in-game items. Though for the latter, never to the degree of thousands of dollars, all at once, for virtual pantsu, which is why I was initially doubtful.

So, does anyone have the girls that you get from the serial codes that come with the cd and manga in FKG? If so, how are they?

>>15252097
>cd and manga
No such girls have been released yet. Also, there is no FKG manga, though there is an official comic anthology.

Two girls (Agave and Wolfsbane) come from the LNs, two others (Wintersweet and Cuphea) come from watching FKG broadcasts as a premium Niconico member, and a fifth, Sinclairiana, is obtained by purchasing the character guide. A sixth girl, Devil's Claw, will be released with the third LN at the end of next month, and should have an interesting design since the Japanese name for that plant is "lion slayer".

All promotional golds have weaker statlines and skills compared to both event and gacha golds, but they're still very cute.

>>15251886
>>15252040
you do know these are +18 games so parents purse should be safe unless they are retarded

Is this "special premium gacha" in aigis just another revival gacha?

>>15251791

Look up the book "Addiciton by Design" if you want serious reading material on the principles behind these games. If you want something lighter, a core behind it is this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_%28psychology%29

>>15251886

> I'm also going to guess by "whales", you mean those people tend to be fat?

Actually, the term was first coined by a developer or such who used a sea food chain metaphor: you have the free population, the lite-payers and then you have the whales that are small in number but are mind-blowingly huge comparison to individuals from other species. For what sorts of people they actually are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBtXyv0Q1Eg

Sure some whales will be genuinely rich. But not all are.

>>15252040

> thousands of dollars, all at once, for virtual pantsu

Which is actually a more tangible reward than what hardcore gamblers are after when they're burning away at a casino slot machine. They know they're not going to win money, that the odds are stacked for the House. They still do it. See Flow above.

>>15252697
>reblaying to trall
fugg :DDD

>>15252697
Thanks for the detailed reply. 'Ciate it.

Man, the way these games hook people, and the absolute genius of how they're designed to hook you, are depressing. But that segues into another topic that I don't think I can talk about in /jp/, which are my opinions on the root-causes of addiction and how something can be "addicting by design", but yet not addictive at all, even with severe withdrawal symptoms (both physically and more-emotionally, like with gambling and vidya). So I'll drop the topic here.

I'll also look into that book. I've always been curious about these skinnerbox games, and even dived into researching them, but have never read about it from any formal sources. Thanks.

In the meantime, maybe I should play the damn games already. I mean, I've tried playing skinnerbox games out of curiosity before, just to see what it *actually is* that people spend all their time playing (like some of the cookie clicker games, The Settlers Online, that "it's the Grineer" game, and even candy crush), so I might as well do it with virtual pantsu RPG tower-defense whatever games. Though I don't expect my experiences will be vastly different from those.

Someone tell me more about cute girls.

>>15252697
I don't know. I've spent like $300 on aigis just because I enjoy the game. It's probably not a lot but it has given me a decent amount of blacks.

>>15252697
I didn't realize it was a problem in the west too. I always thought it was a Japan thing.

>>15252697
>Actually, the term was first coined by a developer or such who used a sea food chain metaphor

I believe it actually originated as a casino term.

http://www.realonlinegambling.com/terms/whale/

>>15252768
>like some of the cookie clicker games,
A literal skinner box, and its free so whatever.

>that "it's the Grineer" game
A legitimately fun game gated behind IMMENSE timers that pull you out of the game and away from progress. Make the game fun enough and people will pay to keep playing it I guess. Carrot dangling at its finest.
>and even candy crush
This one I really don't understand, why not just play any of the millions of other free puzzle games? Is it name brand recognition working here?

>>15252768
just fuck off to /vg/, there are 30+ threads you can ctrl+c ctrl+v your shit to.

>>15252795
Trying to take advantage of people by psychological tricks is honored tradition in most first world countries. Marketing is just a public friendly branch of propaganda.

>>15252819
>>15252825

I deleted my post because it was getting off-topic, just for the record.

Thanks for the conversation, everyone. I think I will try these games later.

In the mean time, tell me about cute girls.

>>15252768
>Someone tell me more about cute girls.

What types do you like first?

>>15252849
Hmm. kemono and maids, mostly. With lots of petting and cuddling. And girls doing cute things together. No lewdness.

>>15252849
This is probably the only picture of sybilla I like. She looks retarded in her AW form and H scenes.

>>15252853

It sounds like FKG will be more appropriate for you than Aigis if you just want to see what 'cute girls from a skinner box' can be like. While not essential, it helps if you can understand spoken Japanese to appreciate their voiced lines. Still, Aigis has actual gameplay.

Note: most games don't reach the production values of FKG. A single illustration stamped on a card is all you get in some games.

>>15252768
Aigis follows a generic fantasy plot where the last surviving prince of a ruined kingdom must battle against a massive monster incursion, so it has plenty of lady knights, princesses, wizards, barbarians and other high fantasy staples. It usually adds 2-3 new characters every 2 weeks, and has 3% and 10% chances in its gacha for its most powerful (game-breakingly so in some cases) and second most-powerful unit rarities (which tend to contain the cutest girls). If you intend to pay, you should note that you get bonuses for spending a large amount of game currency at once. In particular, spending 150 crystals in a month will give you an upgraded stamp card with a guaranteed high-tier unit ticket.

Flower Knight Girl has a similar plot in that you're fighting against a large enemy force, but instead of orcs or demons, it's a swarm of previously benign insects that went berserk after a force of evil made its way into your once-pristine world. All of its characters are based on flowers and their meanings, with plenty of neat little references to these in their designs (the back of Oncidium's dress and skirt is shaped like her flower, for example, while Lavender is a yandere because her flower meaning is "distrust"). It adds 4-5 girls every two weeks and has 0.5% and 6% chances for its highest and second-highest rarity girls, but gives far more free ingame currency compared to Aigis, and allows paying players to outright buy the girl they want in certain campaigns.

FKG also has the hands-down best team on DMM, these guys did massive overhauls of every system in their game based on user feedback and regularly improve existing girls with updated art, sprites and voice lines.

>>15252920
> it helps if you can understand spoken Japanese to appreciate their voiced lines. Still, Aigis has actual gameplay.

I've actually been stujin Japanese for a year or so. I can understand beginners' audio dialog pretty well, and sometimes even longer or harder stuff. Though my understanding of written JP is far, far better than audio.

The game'd probably be good practice. Hope it has transcripts.

>>15252951
> Hope it has transcripts.

FKG story missions and character quests have voiced transcripts, yes.

>>15251950
Leo and Roy are really cool, sadly they are just bronze units though.

Finally got Corinne.

It only took 8 SCs.

>3 plat alchemist drops
>2 silvers
>dozens of flowers
>still can't complete the drops
Pls. I don't even want Mehlis that much, but I want to finish it

I cant sign up with a ref link and this is driving me crazy.
Someone else is having problem with it or nutaku simply hates my guts?
I just want to scam 500 free gold from them ffs, its not like im trying for the old 2500.

Unbelievable, spent the SP crystals from subjugation and actually got something out of it, 2 silvers and a gold! Surely I won't get even a silver on FKG to compensate.

This onigirikun is pretty good.

I heard one of the games has the girls get raped by monsters rather than being fucked by the player. Is that true?

>see "witch" in the upcoming dmm event
>finally, a new witch!
>who leapt through time
>its a chronowitch
Damn it. I already have Towa. I just wanted a plat witch who doesn't look 300% silly in her AW form like Belinda

>>15253871
But Kokoro has a chicken hat. Are you not excited about her chicken hat?

>>15251090
Well look at that, all fixed.

http://screencast.com/t/OvPvfUe9

>>15251026
They are indeed limited by their specific choice in payment processor, and I have credible evidence that this is so. I may elaborate on this in an upcoming article.

Here's a teaser to make this point: http://harem-battle.club/general-discussion/666-removed-facebook-posts.html#post11835

I haven't tried visual novels before (other than Everlasting Summer, which I enjoyed) but I have some gold to spend and I'm interested in trying one out. Are there any in the Nutaku store that are particularly worth getting into? Preferably decent length, perverted sex scenes, not horribly localized.

>>15254047
I would say Princess Evangile is the best by far on Nutaku's site.

>>15254047
Definitely Princess Evangile.

I'd buy it myself if I didn't already have a shiny limited edition sitting on my shelf.

>>15253871
She makes my kokoro go doki doki kyun kyun.

How fares Towa against Despara? Who would you choose?

>>15254146
Despara. There's no contest. Despara has too much damage.

>>15253994
>Here's a teaser to make this point
You are new here, so let me explain some things.
We fucking know what NutakuDev posted publicly, you know, this is fucking "Nutaku thread".
Just because that pathological liar said something, does not mean its true. When they were loudly crying about "payment processors" forbidding anything even remotely loli-ppoi for some games, other games had completely loli characters uncensored for ages. And there was no change of payment processors, but suddenly FKG is now okay to be uncensored. If you think major payment processor would rewrite its policies just to suit nutaku, you are delusional.

>>15254146
Both and deploy them together. Chrono witches are meant as support
I can't even imagine the damage output together with Despara, but my AW Cloris destroys things real quick while under Towa's influence

>>15254190
For someone who claims they follow these games you are really badly informed. Nutaku games have slowly become less censored over time - not just FKG, but Osawari, Aigis, etc. It's clear that something's changing.

But please, keep spouting your bullshit gibberish.

>>15253994
Well, we do have evidence that they will change their policies if there is enough reason to do so. So payment agencies do not appear to be a major obstacle at the end of the day.

We'll see if they will revert their censors later on. But until then, no quarter.

>>15254190
>You are new here, so let me explain some things.
Well now, the other side had the courtesy to post what they knew, there's no need to act like a condescending asshat.

>>15254230
It depends on whether you think Nutaku games are improving because they're getting better at negotiating with third parties or because they just spontaneously decided not to censor anymore.

At the end of the day, I'd say it's probably the former. You don't really get into hentai gaming if you have a hard on for censorship. It earns you no end of grief.

>>15254225
>Nutaku games have slowly become less censored over time - not just FKG, but Osawari, Aigis, etc. It's clear that something's changing.
What exactly is "less censored" in Aigis? Event units and silvers are still skipped and they aren't going to put them back. Aisha happened only because she's very popular gacha black, profit for them is more important than censorship.
As for other games, when Osawari got censored, PeroPero already had loli characters uncensored and Aigis had Shiho. There's not so much change as just plain inconsistency, with every separate nutaku game going in wildly different ways and having different content policies.

>>15254257
I think that the considerable revenue Nutaku earns gives it the leverage for its negotiations, and that user demand for better service and uncensored girls gives it a reason to actively revert its censorship.

I also think that the latter pressure should continue until the games are censor-free, and that people should be encouraged to play on DMM/not pay Nutaku for that purpose. Getting a large enough number of folks to do that is a tall order, though.

>>15254269
Aigis is a unique case because Nutaku demands some of the characters to be censored, and the general Dev Tea response to these demands is probably along the lines of "eat shit and die" (which is, by the way, the ideal response to censorship). So Nutaku can't censor anything because Dev Tea won't let them, and Dev Tea can't add their girls to the game as is because Nutaku won't let them. They're at an impasse, and the game suffers because of this.

Other games let Nutaku censor their girls however they wish, so they get updated regularly. But this is what led to the Osawari scenario, so I'm firmly on the side of Dev Tea here.

>>15254218
>Nutaku
>Less censored
>Aigis
>Osawari

At side for the fact that Nutaku lack of control over Aigis, how is Aigis "less censored"?
Did they added these missing units or events?
Because i'm sure as fuck that Nutaku Aigis is still missing them.

And about Osawari, i can give you a 7/10 just because you are clearly trolling, i can't believe someone can be serious about Osawari.
Just out of curioisty...
Did they fixed Goma? No? Then they can burn in hell.

>>15254305
The only way anyone can be certain about this is if Nutaku takes over Aigis (as they have been broadly hinting at for the last month) and the missing characters are restored. Anything else is just speculation.

> NutakuDev
I'm still salty over how that faggot deleted all complains about censorship from facebook and explained it on forums as need to keep information about existing loli chars from payment processors. And shortly after they release Aisha and plaster banners with her just everywhere - front page of nutaku, facebook, twitter, Nordland's stream. Gee, what happened with hiding lolis from payment processors, NutakuDev?

>>15254269
Less censored is saying the units can be put in, just cause aigis devs don't want to you can't say nothings changed.
You're assuming everything is done in a row ineffiecently and not concurrently, different games should be working at different paces which would explain the inconsistencys.

It would be very easy to do some girls long before release before censor rules changes then other girls in another game with different rules.

There's nothing wrong with shitting on Nutaku but atleast don't drag the others who do it down.

>>15254324
Actually "NutakuDev" is not just a person but a title, even Nameless on Discord is a "NutakuDev"
Anyway, yes, some of my own posts got deleted on FB during the "Aigis Valenetine fail" and some other times, i've lost the count frankly.

>>15254311
Only speaking for Aigis here but if you compare the stuff they were removing last spring to what they remove now it's clear that whatever criteria has changed. The old stuff hasn't come characters haven't come back for whatever reason but there are a lot of characters I don't believe we would have seen if their events were in 2015

>>15254324
I don't see any posts on FB or Twitter with Aisha, do you have a link? Nordland's stream, whatever, but that seems a pretty low-risk environment.

>>15254332
I'm judging by facts - units still not being in game, while you demand to believe in whatever bullshit they say and consider game less censored just because they said they greenlit these units.

>>15254341
Its less censored due to the units that are now getting in, not because old units haven't been brought in. Say what you want about Aisha but she wouldn't be here without a change, if what you said about money was correct B Iris would be in too.

>>15254339
90% sure NutakuDev is a single person. Actually I think it's the guy who did the original Aigis video on their YouTube channel.

>>15254312
Pretty much. Most of the initial complaints on Facebook and Twitter went up because Pero and Osawari were clearly getting some taboo girls (i.e. santa loli, mouse twins), while Aigis wasn't getting any better. The complaints died down a bit once it became clear that Dev Tea was more likely to be the culprit.

>>15254340
He's bullshitting. Prior to FKG, they rarely put up banners with lolis. Definitely not ones as blatant as Aisha. Whenever Osawari updates its banners, they tend to avoid displaying any lolis too.

>>15254340
Removed contents are still removed, that's a censoreship, we still got a heavily censored game.
>>15254368
They just put Aisha becuase she is a gold mine for the devs and whales most of the time are just a bunch of retards that are ok with their chopped game if they can buy more blacks.
You are living an illusion there.

>>15254369
Frankly i don't know, i'm just basing my point on Nameless nickname, that's all.

>>15254368
I'm betting 20$ on Eden being censored out. Willing to back your beliefs with money?
They are never going to add free lolis, only black money-makers.

>>15254312
I have it on good word that at least one girl will be censored, if Nutaku were to gain the rights over Aigis at this moment.

>>15254340
That is a sign of improvement, but the fact that they only remove some characters does not exactly mean that Nutaku is a good company now. Nutaku still delivers terrible service, but it is making an effort to become less shitty. It may be deserving of support after that, but only after that.

Once it reverts its edits and actually delivers what it is supposed to deliver (to wit, the Japanese game, minus the Japanese text, plus the English text), then I'll have no problems with it. Until then, DMM it is.

>>15254384
>>15254386
What is black Iris but a goldmine, why isn't she in the game but Aisha is?

>>15254406
Figuneria doesn't count, anon. None of the games have conquered the idiotic hurdle that is "tentacles = bestiality". I highly doubt Aigis would be the exception here.

I don't see why any other loli would be censored though. And yes, I will put money on that.

>>15254406
>I have it on good word that at least one girl will be censored, if Nutaku were to gain the rights over Aigis at this moment.

Surprising literally no one.

Bizanon here again.
Some of you guys might not remember, but I met Nutaku's business development lead a while ago at an event.

Now that their downloadable section of the site has gone live, I can finally come in and talk about some stuff.

1. I was responsible for bringing over Raining Blobs. Check it out. It's non-adult, but it's a great puzzle game. Also, call me a shill but I'm biased.

2. I left the company I was working with when I hashed out the deal for Raining Blobs. I started my own videogame publishing clients and already have a couple of clients.

3. I'm contracting out a development team to work on a couple of projects. One is an all ages browser game, one is an H-browser game. I want feedback and suggestions from you guys.


I don't want to talk too much about my stance with Nutaku right now, mostly because I want to have something to show for my games before I start speaking to them again. Once I do start speaking to them, I'll have to stop posting about the project here as well.
I also can't speak too much as to my experience with working behind the scenes on Raining Blobs.

All I can say is I love working with the guys there, they're awesome, and that the downloadable section is live.
I wanted to check in and see if you guys had any first impressions of the downloadable section and Raining Blobs, I'm dying to hear the feedback.

I'm not sure I have enough to talk about my other projects yet, but I will be trying to show up more frequently to bring you guys concept art and take suggestions. If I am legally allowed to take in feedback. I'll have to double check.
I want to allow the browser/mobage community of 4chan to have some input since I'm a fellow 4channer and people like you and me are essentially my target audience, so I'll see what I can do.

>>15254444
Welcome back. Unless you were just lurking earlier, then... sup?

I'm a pretty big Puyo enthusiast. How does your game compare to that?

>>15254415
Black Iris is not even comparable to Aisha.

>>15254455
I have been dreadfully busy so I haven't been lurking as much.
Hell, I haven't even played Aigis for the last month.

I played FKG for about a week and want to stay consistent, but I've been too busy.

As far as the game, it's very similar but with a couple of twists.
If you liked that type of puzzle game though, then I think it's up your alley. Much closer to Puyo Puyo than Tetris.

>>15254488
Fair enough. I'll give it a try, thanks.

>>15254444
>if you guys had any first impressions of the downloadable section
My impressions are there >>15251090
They improved page a bit since then, with more description and h-scene screenshots, but its still much less informative than original MangaGamer page. No character descriptions, no trial version, no demo movie, no information about developers/localizers. It feels very half-assed.

>>15254481
She's cuter which is what whales prefer in their black units. She'd be enough to get just as many people to try for her as Aisha had.

Might as well post this here since this seems to be the only community keenly interested in Nutaku censorship of DMM games...

I've attempted to document the changes in Nutaku games. It's likely I've missed some games that have been altered. For others, Nutaku claims some or all changes have been reverted. Can the community here comment on games that have been censored that should be included on my list, and games currently included that are no longer censored? Screenshots or other verifiable documentation would be useful.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HPnS6Rli98oT3XRe9Z32CtGYgLf0VBNP6frxxVAi100/edit#gid=1342243390

The relevant tab is "non-ENG original, indie".

>>15254444
Good to see that you've been doing well.

I'm not too hopeful about "anime-inspired" Western browser games, but if you get the right artists, it should be possible to pull it off. Best of luck with your game projects.

I'm still hoping Nutaku will compensate those of us who were unlucky to get a Liana instead of black Iris.

>>15254505
Check that page again. Seems they fixed it.

>Trying to get Boris
>Rikka drops more than the Demon Crystals
>Despite having Leda in the party.

RNG really hates me huh? I mean, I'm glad to get a few extra copies of Rikka but still.

>>15254505
I'm not going to lie, I feel the same way.
I mean, on one hand, the game I was responsible for didn't have a very big description.

On the other hand, I dislike the features list being separated from the rest of the copy that I wrote. I feel like it could have been formatted better.

I understand why it is set up the way it is because I've seen the backend, but at the same time I still think more could be done.

>>15254516
Well, I can divulge the elevator pitch for the bigger of the two projects.

Think TinyTower or Fallout Shelter, but with a brothel.
It's essentially a browser/mobage version of Boku no Slave Brothel.
But yeah, we want to give it a faux anime look.

Thanks for the sentiments!

>>15254521
I've mentioned that they improved it in the post you are replying too.
Stuff I listed (characters, trial, demo movie, developers info) is missing right now.

>>15254508
>She's cuter which is what whales prefer in their black units

No they want Blacks that can increase their e-penis and an healer, as cute as she can be, can't do that, Aisha is one of the most broken units in the game after Skill AW too wich makes her even more "precious" for a whale.

>>15254529
I had very bad luck during this GR but suddenly got all maps I cared completed in last hour. Don't give up.

>>15254515
I can't comment on non-FKG Nutaku games, but this is a very solid list. Thank you for posting it.

>>15254550
Got everyone but Boris, whom I don't really care about.

It took a bunch of SCs, but I'm glad.

>>15254515
You may as well change "loli" to "loli and some petite" for Aigis characters, because we're still missing characters like this for some inexplicable reason.

Also, Lord of Valkyrie is dead on Nutaku as of April 28th. You can replace it with Quiz of Valkyrie, which I believe suffers the same level of censoring. Official launch was March 22nd.

>>15254515
There's not really much to add. The most blatant censorship edits tend to be from the first month.

Aigis is a unique case. The most glaring omissions are Mischa and Nenya, with the former being a substantial loss since she is a free unit that uniquely boasts high attack and has no free substitute. Kagerou is another omission that continues to keep getting removed, even though she isn't remotely loli-looking. The other units are events, and the event schedule is a whole separate issue altogether, but adding those back in probably wouldn't be difficult. On the other hand, some petite girls did make it through, like Shiho, Rika, and Assal. There's also the shota-looking hermaphrodite, Niel. And the most blatant loli, Aisha, was considered a miracle to get in.

I haven't played Osawari in a while, but I don't think they have issues with adding loli units these days. Not all of the units have been reverted however, including popular seal loli Goma.

Angelic Saga hasn't needed to censor anything in ages either.

As stated, the full extent of FKG's censorship is just Lavender's removed virgin blood and changing Oncidium's skill name from Bloody Masquerade to Death Waltz. There's a few other inconsequential things, like not translating loli in dialogue ("loli pussy" just gets translated to "little pussy" instead), but it's easily the least censored of Nutaku's games so far.

>>15254624
It's racism again muslim, you know.

>>15254530
>Fallout Shelter, but with a brothel.

YES

>faux anime look.
Oh god, please don't let it look as ugly as some of the other Nutaku non-DMM games.

>>15254624
I've decided to retain discontinued titles so the spreadsheet can serve as a chronicle of censorship and not just a "buyer's guide".

Commenting on the differences between "loli" and "pettanko" is more detail than I want to get into for a brief description. However I'll link to external image evidence (I'm only able to link to one location per title).

I can only include titles with known censorship that has been documented or at least acknowledged as generally true by the community.

>>15254647
If you or someone else would compile a gallery of characters that have been omitted from Aigis, likely for reasons of censorship, I'd link to that.

For other games, at least one instance of censorship is enough warrant inclusion on my list, no matter how minor. If all changes in Angelic Saga have been reverted I'll remove it.

>>15253895
I hope she gets a chicken familiar and/or a hut with chicken legs post-AW.

All the cool witches get familiars, chronowitches shouldn't be left out of the fun either.

>>15254761
>I can only include titles with known censorship that has been documented or at least acknowledged as generally true by the community.

If you mean Quiz of Valkyrie, it's most definitely confirmed and documented. Just... not in this topic and about two months back. Some characters had breast enlargement for sure.

>>15254768
I'm full-timing her if she gets a chicken familiar.

>>15254761
Angelic Saga hasn't reverted any edits, to my knowledge. But some cards that were available at launch get EX variants, and those WERE uncensored.

Aigis exclusions:
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%b8%ab%bd%ac%a4%a4%b5%b3%ca%bc%a5%df%a1%bc%a5%b7%a5%e3
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%c7%ad%cb%e2%bd%f7%a5%cd%a1%bc%a5%cb%a5%e3
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%c7%a6%bc%d4%a5%ab%a5%b2%a5%ed%a5%a6
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%b9%dd%c5%b4%b5%dd%a5%af%a5%ec%a5%a2
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%bc%ed%bf%cd%a5%d9%a5%e9
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%cd%c5%c0%ba%bb%ca%ba%d7%a5%ce%a5%a8%a5%eb
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%cb%e2%bd%f7%a5%d5%a5%a3%a5%b0%a5%cd%a5%ea%a5%a2 (she looks less loli in her h-scenes, but her scene also contains tentacles)
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%b2%f8%ce%cf%be%af%bd%f7%a5%c7%a5%a3%a1%bc%a5%ca
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%c0%bb%bd%f7%a5%a4%a5%ea%a5%b9
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%bb%fc%b0%a6%a4%ce%b5%a7%a4%ea%a5%b5%a1%bc%a5%ea%a5%a2
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%cc%d4%a4%ad%c4%de%bd%c3%a5%a6%a5%eb

Aigis inclusions:
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Lilia (in case you wanted to make a distinction somewhere, Lilia looks a good 10 years older and more womanly in her h-scenes, so she's only loli-faced)
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Hina
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Shiho
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Rika
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Phyllis
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Assal
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Aisha

Think that's about everyone.

>>15254515
I believe both Duel Squad, DTM and Dragon Providence have excluded loli characters as well. I don't have a list on all of them but it should be a fair good amount of characters.

>>15254761
Angelic Saga hasn't reverted any edits, to my knowledge. But some cards that were available at launch get EX variants, and those WERE uncensored.

Aigis exclusions:
Mischa: http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%b8%ab%bd%ac%a4%a4%b5%b3%ca%bc%a5%df%a1%bc%a5%b7%a5%e3
Nenya: http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%c7%ad%cb%e2%bd%f7%a5%cd%a1%bc%a5%cb%a5%e3
Kagerou: http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%c7%a6%bc%d4%a5%ab%a5%b2%a5%ed%a5%a6
Claire: http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%b9%dd%c5%b4%b5%dd%a5%af%a5%ec%a5%a2
Bella: http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%bc%ed%bf%cd%a5%d9%a5%e9
Dorothy: http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%c2%e7%c3%cf%a4%ce%cd%c5%c0%ba%a5%c9%a5%ed%a5%b7%a1%bc
Noel: http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%cd%c5%c0%ba%bb%ca%ba%d7%a5%ce%a5%a8%a5%eb
Kagura: http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%d6%e0%bd%f7%a5%ab%a5%b0%a5%e9 (only because she shares her event with Noel)
Figuneria: http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%cb%e2%bd%f7%a5%d5%a5%a3%a5%b0%a5%cd%a5%ea%a5%a2 (she looks less loli in her h-scenes, but her scene also contains tentacles)
Dina: http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%b2%f8%ce%cf%be%af%bd%f7%a5%c7%a5%a3%a1%bc%a5%ca
(Black) Iris: http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%c0%bb%bd%f7%a5%a4%a5%ea%a5%b9
Saria: http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%bb%fc%b0%a6%a4%ce%b5%a7%a4%ea%a5%b5%a1%bc%a5%ea%a5%a2
Uru: http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%cc%d4%a4%ad%c4%de%bd%c3%a5%a6%a5%eb
Chloe: http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%c2%c4%c5%b7%bb%c8%a5%af%a5%ed%a5%a8

Aigis inclusions:
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Lilia (in case you wanted to make a distinction somewhere, Lilia looks a good 10 years older and more womanly in her h-scenes, so she's only loli-faced)
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Sybilla (basically the poster-child and most popular character of the game, so it'd be hell to remove her)
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Hina
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Shiho
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Rika
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Phyllis
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Assal
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Aisha (most broken unit in the game, may have gotten past censors because of that)

Think that's about everyone. Yurina was skipped for some unknown reason, but it's probably unrelated to censorship.

>>15254850
>Yurina was skipped for some unknown reason, but it's probably unrelated to censorship.
One of her scenes contains deflowering, that is probably the reason.

So I suppose it is censorship-related after all.

>>15254854
It all makes perfect sense in hindsight.

>>15254515
I believe PeroPero is the only currently untouched game Nutaku has at the moment. I may be wrong but i have seen no true edit's or removal of characters after they came out with the loli bride(and she only edited on the lvl 1 screen but even that was fixed within a month).

>>15254850
Whoops, forgot Niel. Under inclusions.
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Niel

>>15254854
Well, shit. Maybe Nutaku's more consistent than we pegged them for, after all.

This does render the "Lavender gets censored even though there's blood in other games" argument moot, at least.

>>15254874
Pero has the same issue with changing tentacles to plant tentacles. I think that's it.

Though Pero also has the distinction of being the only mosaic'd Nutaku game, but I believe that's because of missing art assets.

>>15254885
>This does render the "Lavender gets censored even though there's blood in other games" argument moot, at least.
That is does, but "they're being consistently retarded" does not excuse them for being retarded. They're not censoring things on a whim, but they're still censoring things, and that is bad.

Though I also wouldn't mention that Yurina probably isn't included in Aigis because her scene contains deflowering while wailing on Nutaku for censoring Lavender.

>>15253672
20 RC is always worthwhile.

>>15254905
No, but it gives more credit to the idea that they're forced to comply to these retarded edits and not because they're censoring them because they want to. Like some Nutaku trolls here like to insinuate.

I'm not saying I'm happy with the status quo either, but people here like to point the blame towards Nutaku staff being crazed SJWs instead of simply being incapable or incompetent at finding a better solution.

>>15254885
I bet someone in charge of Nutaku has a fear of blood or something against virgin blood at least for them to have skipped Yurina for so long.

>>15254854
>>15254885
Somebody higher up at Nutaku must have a fear of blood or virgins in order for them to have skipped Yurina if this proves true.

>>15254218
Actually Despara's skill AW gains only a negligible amount of speed from Towa from what I've heard.

>>15254761
>>15254800
Here, I got bored waiting on Aigis stamina and tracked down pics of a Quiz of Valkyrie character for comparison.

>>15254917
>they're forced to comply to these retarded edits
They're not forced to comply with anything, per se. It's just more profitable if they comply with these rules, because they would be denied network visitors/payment services otherwise.

But yes, these edits are retarded no matter the reason, and it's entirely justified to discourage people from playing on Nutaku until they are fixed.

Oh hey, they fixed the sqecial awakening banner to special

>>15254918
Apparently Maribel's scene has deflowering though.

http://aigisu.pl/image/134

It's not "flowing" like it is in Yurina's or Lavender's scene though. Knowing censorship restrictions, that probably makes a difference somehow.

I remember that one reddit post saying that tentacles were considered bestiality, unless something was clearly in control of the tentacles, in which case they might be considered advanced sex toys instead.

But I'm guessing Figuneria doesn't catch a break, since masturbation with tentacles or consentacles is still bestiality?

Fuck, I don't want to try to understand who makes up these rules.

>>15254545
B. Iris is also one of the most broken units in the game.

>>15254943
Don't be stupid, anon. If the alternative is not getting paid, then yes, they are forced to comply with them.

>>15254959
>Apparently Maribel's scene has deflowering though.

And back to square one we go.

>>15254959
Does anyone have the screencap of what exactly Nameless said about Lavender's censorship? I want to see the exact wording again.

>>15254967
Nobody is forcing their hand, they still have alternatives for being paid. They just judged that the benefits of the PornHub network and easy-to-access payment options outweighs the drawback of anti-censorship folks opposing their games.

You can change their minds by not paying them until they remove their censorship, which gives them an incentive to look for ways to include censored girls and scenes in their games. They have been doing this to some extent.

But, to quote Nazuna, it's not enough.

>>15255000
It was posted in this general on may 3, check warosu.

>>15254967
They said they are incorporated in Luxemburg, they don't have to stick with american payment solutions.
MangaGamer were based in Netherlands for a while and were already selling hardcore tentacle rape stuff at that time, so there are some payment processors in EU who don't have bullshit rules.

>>15255000
>>15255024
Different anon. Found it.

>>15255032
>MangaGamer were based in Netherlands for a while

Okay, so I wasn't crazy when I thought they were based in Europe. But they're not now? I think someone said they're in Japan now or something?

>>15255039
Hmm, I thought there was a different reply that elaborated on how the blood was "flowing". Maybe I'm thinking of something else.

Here's the reddit post I was referring to earlier, at least.

https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/4ixq4m/nutaku_announces_partnership_with_mangagamer_jast/d339deb

>>15255045
Yes, they are in Japan at least since Hobibox buyout.

>>15255015
>>15255032
Having alternative payment companies doesn't change my statement about Nutaku being forced to comply to their current one.

Should Nutaku change the status quo? Sure, we all know Aigis in particular definitely needs it. But don't make it sound so easy that they can just break ties with their current payment processor just like that. The business world doesn't work that way.

There is at least a grain of truth in that a large portion of complaints levied against Nutaku should probably be brought to the payment processors instead.

>>15255079
>But don't make it sound so easy that they can just break ties with their current payment processor just like that. The business world doesn't work that way.
Yes, it works exactly that way.
MangaGamer had issue with their previous payment processor regarding fraud, they terminated contract and week later got different payment processor working. If they would know in advance that switch would be nessesary, they could do it seamless, without any breaks at all.
Unless Nutaku got some very special contract, there are no penalties for terminating it at any point.

>>15255079
Alright, I think we need a recap.

The fact that Nutaku is censoring less things than before does not make it a non-shitty company.

The fact that Nutaku's censorship is imposed by external forces does not make it a non-shitty company.

The fact that it's difficult to change payment options and that Nutaku may have dug itself a hole through its contract agreements does not make it a non-shitty company.

Nutaku reverting its censors would make it a non-shitty company. As long as it's not doing that, I don't particularly care about its plight or about how hard it's trying.

You can encourage Nutaku to try and revert its censors by not paying it until it does. If you want Nutaku to not censor things, that is what you should be doing.

>>15254874
I need verification that all Nutaku games including PeroPero are censored.

>>15254917
http://clipteez.com/media/badwords.pdf

>>15254850
I compiled the gallery of removed Aigis characters and added it to my list:
http://imgur.com/a/KlmNP

>>15255107
There was a period of several months of Steam key fraud, which likely caused a falling out with their old payment processor.

But this is delving too deeply into speculation. Nobody knows the specifics of MangaGamer's contracts with its payment processors, nor Nutaku with theirs.

It comes down to whether you think Nutaku is more money-driven than their reputation with their audience. Since they're making changes towards improving the latter, I'd like to think that they're not as money-driven as you'd think. But I digress.

>>15255110
And I disagree with just about all of that. There's been noticeable strides in improving the censorship situation. You choose to focus on the remaining retarded aspects and won't cut Nutaku any slack until all of it is gone. I choose to be more lenient and expect them to continue to improve at their own pace. If nothing gets worse, then I'm satisfied. If we have another Osawari sword hilt, we'll have problems.

I would like them to improve Aigis soon though. Dev Tea's had an odd bout of stepping up, but to echo yours and Nazuna's words, it's not enough.

>>15253737
Thanks ahmed for reading my mesage and not being a bot.

>>15255180
Its against his religion to help you with porn website problems.

>>15255180
> Ahmed
And here people are telling its nothing personal for nutaku staff, just some outside regulations, right.
Its obvious why they are so stubborn about censoring "religious figures" now.

>>15255155
If you feel like bringing it up to Nutaku, try and ask why deflowering Maribel is allowed, but deflowering Yurina and Lavender is not.

>>15255217
Well you'd censor stuff too under threat of muslim terrorism.

>>15255217
Basing a meme on Nutaku's retarded Discord mod is retarded in itself.

>>15255155
For future reference, a running list is kept on the wiki:
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Unimplemented_Content

>>15255229
>Nutaku's retarded Discord mod
What?
I didn't mention any discord mods, Ahmed is someone replying for nutaku billing support emails, as you can see from screenshot above.

Blood is haram in certain religion, now it all makes perfect sense.

>>15255299
The new "Nutaku hates Muslims" meme is because blobz flipped out on a guy named Allahu Akbar in Discord chat, after a different guy was shitposting about Nazis.

I'm assuming that's where this whole thing comes from, anyway. I'm not referring to your payment predicament in particular.

Canon is dropping during star trial on DMM.
Fucking finally, I started playing just before her event and could only CR-1 her, wanted to mincost her forever.

>>15255227
In my experience, asking why the censorship line was drawn here rather than there doesn't provoke a useful response. Such thresholds are arbitrary, and they'll evade any attempts to pin them to specifics which would limit their freedom of judgement in the future.

>>15255354
I figure that's what'll happen, but it probably won't hurt to ask anyway.

>>15255344
Same here, I've wanted her for a long time.

Is this a bug? I just got it from the 120 stamina stage on nutaku FKG.

>>15255551
No? You're supposed to collect those to skillup Mountain Lily.

>>15255566
Sorry my bad, what I mean is that the flower has no skill.

>>15255580
Nope. That's how they're supposed to look.

Did everyone make sure to get their free four star cock holster?

>>15254515
aigis is missing some textual censoring on this list

lol

>>15255551
>>15255566
>>15255580
>>15255586
Before patch update those flower had skill and were able to upgrade anyone, with same skill, with chance of failure, if there ever would be someone, with same skill. But after patch skill was removed and those flowers can only upgrade current event girl with 100% chance

>>15255842
translate it to dweeps

I've lost control of my life. I rolled 300 SC and I didn't get Aisha.

>>15255744
>aigis is missing some textual censoring on this list
You'll need to describe what sort of "textual censoring" took place. I wasn't aware of censorship beyond units being removed from the game, along with their H-scenes.

>>15255855
It went full Terminator. Demon glued himself together with crono mage and became Chrono Demon so he could go in the past and kill Prince before he became whale. So current Prince goes in the past to save his old self from demon, and they keep jumping through time together with demon.

>>15255855
>The current me is no longer just an ordinary demon! The freedom to come and go through time... yes, I shall be known as a Chrono Demon.

Something to that effect.

>>15255866
Cloris is referred as step-mother of Belinda on Belindas scenes but in DMM she is her mother
minor but is there so there might be more

>>15255866
Belinda's H-scene, which involves a 3-some with her Mother Cloris. I believe Nutaku changed it to step-mother.

http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Belinda
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Cloris

>>15255870
>>15255874
awsomooo

>>15255885
>>15255888
Thanks. So far Nutaku's edits seem completely consistent with the payment processor guidelines I posted earlier. We can assume these are applied universally to all Nutaku games to some greater or lesser extent. I'd recommend those here take a close look at it. You might discover censorship you previously had overlooked.

Well yeah, Kokoro's entire plot is literally like Terminator - you have to go back into your past when you're just a newbie and save yourself from getting killed by his demon army, which if he succeeds you'll cease to exist.

http://exhentai.org/g/935717/f5f8efe58f/
Update's done.

Who's this fluid druid, btw? Can't find her on the wikis:
http://assets.millennium-war.net/02e67d10110934f3932316237c7cf0445715fe1a/0019a86705f7b3b2b394778ef4d7915a

>>15255920
Spoiler for a new unit. We have no idea about her name, class, or rarity yet.

>>15255920
What the hell cafe Anna is the same as regular Anna. How lazy.

>>15255925
Alright. Her scene is cute.

>>15255913
should be ---> if you go not get 3 stars account will reset

Another 50 rolls and no blacks. This special premium gacha is a scam. Every fucking Aisha banner gacha is a scam.

>>15255932
If her scene was added just after maintenance, then I think there's a good chance she'll be added to gacha next week.

>>15255947
I just got the sniper loli. Does anyone know if she is any good? Seems like she specializes in killing demons?

>>15255956
Niche unit that melts demons, yes. It does have very long hit range.

Whom should I AW Mehlis, KT, Iris, Liana, Faa, Metus, Barnice. I have Happy but been saving it for better blacks

Am I seeing this wrong or are they removing these units from the gacha after this thing is over? Is Aisha gone until they decide to put her in revival? It must suck for all those new players.

>>15255965
Whoever you feel that you really require immediately.

Personally I'd pick either Barnice or KT first.

>>15255978
Which part of the Japanese text did they say they'll be removed? I don't see any.

>>15255995
2016年5月26日(木)10:00 開始の定期メンテナンスにて、
　プレミアム召喚およびレア召喚から一部のユニットを除外いたします。
　対象のユニットは以下の通りです。

　▼ブラック
　　伏龍の軍師アイシャ、天馬騎士団長エスタ、朱鎧の智将マツリ
　▼プラチナ
　　猛き爪獣ウル、太陽神官パトラ、宮廷剣士サビーネ、姫海賊アネリア
　▼ゴールド
　　格闘士ジーナ、砲術士メル、緑森の番人フウカ

>>15255978
>>15255995
>>15256003
Can you still get them from SP or 2000 gatcha?

>>15256003
>Some of these units will be removed from Rare and Premium Summons starting from 26th May
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU-

>>15255978
Revivals happen very often, so it doesn't really matter.

>>15256025
Even then, they would put two blacks in the banner. Aisha is by herself right now which gives her the highest rate.

I still don't see what all the fuss about is.

>>15256015
she goes to better gatcha

how do i do the new aegis event? it gives me an error when i try to start

>>15256040
Your first barrack is full.

>>15256040
Your barracks is full. Clean them up or expand it.

>>15256041
>>15256042

wow, i am fucking retarded, thanks

>>15256037
What's better about it?

>>15256008
Yes, units are never removed from those.

>>15256045
Well, it does now have Aisha, Minerva, Nanaly, and Despia. There isn't much better than them.

>>15255978
>tfw was playing for the Aisha event but didn't have good enough units to get her.
A-At least I got Echidna and a couple of dragon silvers.

>>15256069
>Aisha

Don't you mean Anya?

>>15256082
I'D KNOW IF I HAD HER

>>15256088
But Aisha is never in any events.

what is max item limit on nutaku FKG

just now got data update on nutaku aigis

Anons how was your rag runs?

>>15255912
Osawari's mouse twins, while their bodies haven't been altered, one of their hair colors were changed to avoid the same incest implications. They still talk about their little sisters though.

http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Osawari-Island/Osawari:Kimi-Nimi-Sotani?Nimi+Sotani

>>15256327
Speaking of Osawari, seems to be a popular game in Nutaku, why no one ever talk about the game?

>>15256384
nuthing to talk about since Goma is butchered

>>15256281
>We will distribute one Sacred Crystal after the next maintenance to users who had
un-class changed version of "Lady Thief Harissa".

>>15256398
>Goma still butchered

Are they really trying to fix their shit?

>>15256404
glad to have ton of them

>>15256419
*Even if you had several corresponding units, you can only get one Sacred Crystal.

>>15256431
point is that not everyone have them anymore as rogues are main fodder for almost everything

Which came first, Kokoro, the chicken or the egg?

>>15256500
waifu

Oh god Amon's aura is wrecking everything

Send help

>>15256521
try tanking him by himself with 2 dedicated healers and no other ranged units in his aura

>>15256500
Prince's seeds

>tfw only got Bell, Isabelle, Odette, Mehlis, and Rikka from the gold rush

I wanted the soldier, goddammit, and I couldn't even 3-star the last map to have a go at the alchemist.

Got Mia from the gacha, though- can she hold a candle to traditional healers outside of poison/weather maps?

>>15256545
Not to the same level as Mar, but she's still excellent when multiple units are taking damage, like against Amon.

>>15256559
She's actually worth using, at any rate, unlike Kululu.

How do you get goggles girl out of the new event? She looks like she might be farmable like Charlottle was during Miruno's event, but which map?

>>15256595
Kanon-chan? Only on G-tier map.

>>15256595
Don't talk shit about my feng-shui. She has a global heal now.

>>15256606
AW or SAW?

>>15256612
SAW

Wait, what are these from?

New game on DMM, Jurassic Girls.

After ships, castles, construction tools, swords, guns and flowers we get dinosaur girls now.

>>15256644
Edelweiss event.

In medal clear events, you get all the rewards below your tier (but only a single event girl). They forgot that and sent just an Edelweiss to everyone, they're fixing that now.

>>15256650
Tight, skimpy bikinis were the Stone Age's greatest contribution to mankind.

>>15256650
>unskippable opening where every line stays on screen for the same amount of time regardless of how short or long

looking great already

>>15256650
We also have food girls - Demon's Kitchen.

http://www.dmm.co.jp/netgame/feature/gochimusu.html

>>15256526
Thanks for the advice. My biggest mistake was using Miruno to kill Amon early, making him go 2nd form and start walking earlier than he should.

Good thing Bernice with 3 healers could tank him (barely).

Fuck you Amon, I'm never going back to this place.

>>15256660
Oh, I didn't notice that there were rewards besides the event girl.

>>15256681
>Sex and food
I don't even need any other games now.

>>15256682
How many maps do I need to clear for the black armor? I can't even 3star the first one despite having numerous awakened blacks

>>15256777
Fifth, tenth and fifteenth give the black armors.

I did the first two with non-AW Metus, Nadia, healers and some event units, so it shouldn't be too difficult to tackle the first few.

Who should get the first black armor?

>>15256777
Get good. Blacks are at level 5 and 10. Post your team, level 1 is easy.

>>15256788
Yeah, just cleared the first one by bullying Amon with Metus and her spooky skellingtons
I'll try to get at least the first armor

>>15256797
Here's my team.
I'll admit, I haven't actually tried deploying more healers and just bear through Amon's burning aura, is it a viable strategy? My healers are shit because Saria carried me through everything so far and I awakened no other healer

>>15256824
Might wanna swap Lizelotte out for some other unit it you can manage with cost. If that's all you have in the way of healers you're probably gonna have to get clever with your bishop. Also your Saria needs levels.

>>15256824
>>15256777
I wouldn't call 3 AW blacks numerous...

>>15256840
Well I'm a freemium user, so having 3 gacha blacks feels like extreme luck to me. I guess I also forgot I haven't awakened Towa yet
My team is pretty backwards, my healers are lacking and I literally have no def-oriented HA outside of Leanne. Not even a Bernice

110 rolls now and not a single black unit. I wonder if I should keep going.

>that last kokoro map
>spooky skellingtons and lich king on one side
>ghouls and vampire demon on the other
Dude

Kill me

>>15256948
0.034129061% chance of not getting any
you did good for not getting any

>>15256975
At least you got very nice plats.

>>15256975
Is that the new premium-premium gacha? How do you roll it anyhow?
Also, terrible results. Just how much did you pay?

>>15256975
>all those gold hunters
Reminder that the gacha is quasi-random and you shouldn't dump your crystals all at once, even if you're a whale.

>>15256987
I had 60SC saved up before. So around 20k yen.

>>15256991
I wouldn't say I'm a whale. This is the first and last time I'm doing this.

Are ninjas worth it? I've seen people say that they're bad because they don't outdamage archers, but I've also seen people say that they're good because they fill the niche of archers while occupying melee spots.

For the record, I have Hina and am considering buying Saki. I also have Shizuka for the +7% ninja attack bonus passive.

>>15257058
Isn't that bow riders? I thought their niche was having assassinate at range so you don't risk getting OHKO'd with rogues. They can also attack over gaps while in a melee slot, but magic fencers do it better.

>>15257058
>I've seen people say that they're bad because they don't outdamage archers
Fools comparing two totally different kind units types. But if you must archer outdamage ninjas, but ninjas outdamage archer if enemy is trash mob level defence.
>Saki
Is great after AWd and SAW, other than that she is nothing great compared to some other units that could fill that same job. Overall Saki is long project to get her shine brightly.

>>15257104
Other units like...?
We are talking about Ninjas here.

>>15257101
>>15257104
I see, thank you.

I have plenty of ranged physical units, but lack area damage beyond Nadia and Anelia's skills, so I suppose I should raise Odette and/or Mehlis before looking into ninjas.

>>15257149
>puppeteer orbs drop today

Guess we're not getting weekend dailies then.

Are the two plat and black mage armors good enough units to be using all three?

If I evolve a girl in FKG before they hit current max level, will their stats be lower? Kinda like in Aigis?

>>15257838
You can't click the button if the girl is not max lvl.

>>15257845
Fuck you you're not my real dad. I'll do what I want.

>>15257845
Oh, you're right. And here I thought you could.

Decided to yolo some rolls with saved up SC on Nutaku since I needed every single unit on the Spotlight other than Gellius. Drop rate buffs here I come.

>>15256284
It was pretty good. But I don't understand why there is so much rape in the game

>>15258065
>Nanaly
gg no re

>>15258234
It's a nice change of pace compared to how vanilla most of the other DMM games are.

>>15256327
> Osawari's mouse twins, while their bodies haven't been altered, one of their hair colors were changed to avoid the same incest implications. They still talk about their little sisters though.
Thanks.

>check new games on dmm
>see this
Thats a big girl

Saw this tweet. Something about the wording...

>>15258715
Why would they actively promote a nest of turbospergs?

>>15258733
You mean 4Chan? NutakuDev was here last year.

>>15258737
While there's definitely some people here who get extremely upset over trivial shit, promoting a subset of extreme autists with crippling opposite gender issues just seems strange. It's not like they're the kind of people who would even give a shit about their games let alone play games.

>>15258749
Hey man. It's about ethics in games journalism.

>>15258749
Are they the other extreme of the sjw?

>>15258749
>trivial shit
Nice unwarranted jab there, but it's not my fault if you're hell-bent on shilling for censored games.

I know that Nutaku is working on their censorship issues, yes, and I appreciate that. But they did not succeed yet, and I don't want to hear your "b-but look at how hard they're trying" bullshit until they have. Professional companies don't get A's for effort, sorry.

>>15258779
Exactly.

>>15258793
I guess it's not surprising saying Nutaku is stupid and then also making fun of idiots escalating a minor issue to defcon 1 gets me labeled as a shill for the people I'm criticizing. This is the first time I've ever said anything about this issue by the way, no need to project how butthurt you are.

I hope localizations continue to be censored, since I reap zero benefit from decensorship but have a nonzero chance of being affected by moral panic.

>>15258809
>This is the first time I've ever said anything about this issue by the way
My bad then. I'm getting riled up over all this pro-Nutaku/anti-Nutaku nonsense that goes around in these threads nowadays, sorry.

>>15258821
The shittiest part about it is that we're straight up losing characters because of it, otherwise I don't give a fuck about two(three in ~5 Nutaku years) pictures that I skip.

>>15258715
I went to that hellhole to see what was going on, but only their first post was worth anything.

>When our site was initially getting off the ground, we made some unfortunate compromises with payment processors to be able to host a series of popular web games. That includes changing some of the characters you see above, the majority of which have been reverted to the original form. It was shitty process and none of us enjoyed it.

So basically more blame on the payment processors for what may or may not be bans on blood, flat chests, sword hilts, religious figures, or any other number of things depending on who you ask, date and time of day, and whether or not Mars is in retrograde.

>>15258845
People complain when they lose characters. But they lose their shit when the characters get altered to let them in.

>>15258872
As opposed to admitting that they are, in fact, the devil and made all the changes just to fuck with the players.

When will they take responsibility?

>>15258872
Eh, they do censor random shit, but it's not because they themselves are retarded. They just signed agreements with retards, so they're kind of in for the ride.

I think it's clear that Nutaku isn't dumb, they know that censorship makes them lose money. They wouldn't have reversed their existing instances of censorship otherwise. That's why I've been arguing for continued pressure for censorship removal, not because I personally hate Nutaku's guts but because it gives them an incentive to remove their censors as soon as possible.

>>15258881
I'd believe any of the shit they said if they weren't such proven pathological liars at this point.

Whatever the problem is, they haven't been honest about it because their answers are WILDLY inconsistent with their other content.

Except tentacles and incest. Those two have at least been consistent.

>>15258899
>Except tentacles and incest. Those two have at least been consistent.
Kiiiiiind of. There's at least one card in PeroPero that's tentacles in all but name, and the Osawari twins mentioned above are still twins, still have the same surname, and still refer to each other as sisters- they're just not IDENTICAL twins because one got shopped with red hair.

...For some reason.

I sincerely hope that Aigis is 'big enough' to be past all of this bullshit for when Nutaku gets their hands on the code.

>>15258899
I think I'd prefer them to be inconsistent than to have some blanket ban enforced.

Have they even gone back and forth recently? In the past few months it just seems like anything goes. Aside from the one weird blood thing, but honestly that's so small it's not worth getting bent out of shape about.

>>15258925
They have on small/flat chests, at least.

Games like Pero were getting away with murder and then Quiz of Valkyrie came out with boob jobs included. Then FKG came out after that with no such edits.

Can't remember if they've been going back and forth on anything else.

>>15258961
>Then FKG came out after that with no such edits.

Well there was one that made it in the beta, it was the copper rarity loli witch, Ipomeia Nil (I think that's her name). Which was reverted thankfully, but who knows if they were just going to leave it in if no one found out.

>>15258899
They've been kinda consistent with "Blood" I guess? FKG has no blood in it (even the word blood is censored), and then Yurina being removed from Aigis' existence would make sense.

As for Maribel, I've got no clue. I figure she just went under the radar due to the dev tea's lack of diligence which we are all aware of. Maybe Nutaku signed that stupid blood contract after that.

How many SCs does it require on average to -4CR an item collection unit on 14 maximum stamina?

It seems that we might be getting a black (?) sailor a couple weeks later, and I want to save up SCs for her. I currently have 7 and will probably raise 20 until then, would that be enough?

>>15259065
The sailor in dmm? She's definitely not black. Black units look a lot fancier than that.

>>15259111
Who knows, maybe she'll grow 20 dicks and steal the Prince's entire harem after AW.

But that's good to know, I guess I'll move to my back-up plan of rolling the gacha and getting nothing with these SCs.

>>15259132
That's not a good idea. Considering I'm just a random stranger on the internet and that's my impression of the unit. She could be just a very plain black.

>>15258715
r/KiA? seriously?
Its kind of funny how nutaku fears triggering anyone with stuff like nuns having sex, but bravely steps on this landmine.

>>15259178
Nuns have sex all the time.

>>15256650
>construction tools
which game is that

>>15258715
>swing by /r/KotakuInAction

Jesus H Christ. If they wanted to commit suicide there are easier ways. That place is watched by the same people who would demand they censor more or get them shut down.

Did anyone receive codes for niconico premium for FKG or Aigis yet?

What event is coming after Mountain Lily? Any site where you can check that info?

Moonflower, star trial

http://xn--eckq7fg8cygsa1a1je.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?%E7%B7%8A%E6%80%A5%E4%BB%BB%E5%8B%99

>>15259329
http://pastebin.com/NpXpXUMX

Affix Belladonna event (Iberis, Shion Aster and Lisianthus) and Alyssum event (Hollyhock, Allium and Greenbell) to the end of that and it's up-to-date.

>>15258583
>preview image of a guy snowboarding on a giant naked woman

What a time to be alive.

>>15259310
I missed the deadline for FKG, so can't speak to that, but no, no Aigis codes yet.

>>15259371
There's no input for Cuphea or Wintersweet in the serial code section yet, so I doubt FKG codes are in either.

>>15258809
>>15258833
Man, why are you guys actually civil when I don't post, even when I make the same arguments and get called a Nutaku shill for it?

>>15258896
>
I think it's clear that Nutaku isn't dumb, they know that censorship makes them lose money. They wouldn't have reversed their existing instances of censorship otherwise. That's why I've been arguing for continued pressure for censorship removal, not because I personally hate Nutaku's guts but because it gives them an incentive to remove their censors as soon as possible.

Sure. We can all do that without calling them pathological liars and/or retarded, but that's how toxic most of this community is.

At least Nutaku's more active in doing damage control for this, even if I have to seriously question them going to r/KiA. Still, less headache to throw around here if it can be directed elsewhere.

>>15259384
>but that's how toxic most of this community is.

Who would have ever guessed a community about skinner box fap games would go bad?

>>15259384.
toxic is the most retarded hugbox word to exist

freely expressing criticism ≠ toxic. If they do something retarded I'm going to tell them no beating around the bush that they're fucking retarded for doing that.

>>15259412
We ALL fucking do that, anon. Name one person here who has actually said "I like that they censored Lavender!"

The difference is, the people who are more lenient about it also get criticized for not being completely in your hugbox, as you so call it.

>>15259436
You have to understand something, on 4chan you could be fucking gandhi or even god and you would still be insulted and criticized. It's the antithesis of a hugbox which exists to avoid negativity and confrontation.

It's especially noticable when it involves a company everyone knows pays, or paid attention to us in the past. Attempts from them at shilling or damage control is always met with hostility and since everyone is anonymous, well, you know.

Did anyone bring up how the new HCGs in Nutaku FKG are still mosaic'd again?

>>15259648
Finally they stopped editing the CGs. We won lads.

>>15259648
Did you clear your cache ? Some anon had a similar problem with Lavender.

>>15259666
I don't even have the new gacha girls, nor have I 100%'d Mountain Lily yet. I was just looking at the sadpanda gallery and noticed the mosaics.

>>15259673
Mountain Lily isn't mosaic'd. I got her to 100% on day 1.

>>15259310
Okay, my Aigis code just arrived.

What is current max limit of item storage on Nutaku FKG?

Six more updates to version 3.0.0 of aigis

FKG has to have a few of the most frustrating gameplay mechanics I've ever encountered.

At least in osawari if you fuck up and drop your combo it's your own fault.

>here's a free 5* girl for clearing the intermediate stage with 3 medals
>by the way, the level is designed so that you have to spam it for RNG until the game decides to move your parties in the right direction
>HAVE FUN

why do people like this shit

>>15260719
On DMM they stopped designing maps like that ages ago because they listen to player's feedback.

Anyone playing tokyo tenma -devil slave- on dmm?
I could use some general help, like which maps to grind, and what those monster personalities actually affect

3 gacha pulls and no gold in sight, going deeper underground.

>>15261134
Oh please, you can complain after the fourth pull like me.

>>15261228
Another anon here, I've also been experiencing a series of silver pulls on both FKGs recently.
Makes me wonder if I'll ever pull a rainbow.

>>15261266
>Asking for this much
I just want a gold dammit, just one that isn´t my starter.

>>15261304
She just wants you all to herself anon, you should respect your waifu's feelings.

>>15261266
Haven't gotten a gold in the last 5 11x rolls.

Looking forward to seeing when the curse will end. Good thing the game drowns you in flower stones, so even if you have awful luck, you can roll every 2 weeks or so.

Is Kanon good? I don't have any SC to farm her.

Im getting kind of sick of this, did somebody ever beat the RNG of 11-3 in nutaku FKG

>>15262255
Yes, so far i've 3* all the maps.
I need 11 more gems to roll again the limited gacha in hope to get Cymbidium, dunno where i'm supposed to get them though.

>>15253871

I already have Kokoro and her silly chicken hat of time.

>>15254850
What about future events?

>>15262630
>I already have Kokoro
Stop posting from the future, chronowitch anon.

>>15262650

What I meant was that I have all the Stars I need to get Kokoro.

Meanwhile I can't even get past Level 1 of the other event because >no AW units

>>15262687
>backtracking to prevent interference with the past
I'm seeing right through you, anon. You don't have to pretend.

This is a class 4 offense. The time police will be with you soon.

I'm still trying to break through that wall and start awakening units now that I have a handful of maxed/almost maxed CCed characters. Yesterday I managed to barely clear the witch one, which was apparently just to give me false hope because today's awakening map crushed me like a bug. Back to grinding the oasis, I guess.

>>15262255
I put a strong and fast helper team in the middle and one strong yet slow (team4)and 3 super gimped teams ( to unlock the route to that pesky mob) on the bottom. That way you minimize RNG, you still need the helper to go mid and the strong bottom to get the optional boss and avoid or die to the other. The helper then uses the top route afterwards. So three (two if you calculate your strong team to die to the second boss) RNG checks.

A bit of a hassle but once you set it up should be a piece of cake.

>>15262858
Shit, disregard this entirely. Thought it was the third map from the event. The heat is getting to me.

>>15262867
That map is fucking the mind of many

I've was finishing gifts to scrape my last few gems. Then I threw them into the black hole.

Did not get my waifu of choice.

>>15263219
Well, at least you have Greenbell.

I bet at least some people were waiting for her for a long time, I think she was revealed almost a year back.

wow the 5th amon map is a huge difficulty spike

This little shit's attack pattern is giving me headache.
Thing likes this made me wish I have Leona.

>>15263527
Speaking of which, how exactly does this event work? How do the accessories you select work and what do the 500k patterns give?

>>15263583
You raise the accessories level by beating the boss, the higher the boss level is, the more stat it can gain.
If you get wiped, the boss level will be reset, and you can either pick other accessory to raise, or reset the old one and try again if the stat gain wasn't up to your standard.
At the end of the event, you will receive all the accessories you had raised.
>and what do the 500k patterns give?
What 500k?

>>15263660
Alright thanks, that's sort of what I figured.

Pic related for the patterns, the event's shop sells them and I'm assuming they use the event drops to craft but I have no idea how good they are or if they're worth investing into when I only have one team at ~70.

>>15263723
These are hell hounds weapon recipes, they are ones of the best end game weapons at the moment, especially for the rogue class,the hell hound dagger at + 1 allows them to attack twice when stay in backrow, and it can inflict poison. The hell hound spear is also currently the best weapon for soldiers.

>>15263771
So I guess I'll be farming money for a bit, is 1-2-6 the go-to on DMM or is there a better spot?

>>15263784
I suggest burger flipping for a quick buck.you can stop at any time.

>>15263784
It's still 1-2-6.
Though the keys for hell hound boss only drop in chapter 2 story quests.

>>15263817
How am I supposed to become a NEET if I'm flipping burgers though?

>>15263823
Thanks for the answers, off to farm hundreds of beginner exp hall tickets I'll never use.

>>15263784
If you just want money, you'll probably want the mines.
I haven't gone there yet myself, but 500 bread for this seems extremely good.

>>15263907
What chapter is that in? 1-2-6 doesn't seem to be good money right now because of the event and fledgling hammers are 90% of drops.

>>15263929
Event tab, the picture has a bunch of gems on it.
I checked the wiki again though, 3 fights minimum but the total is completely random so maybe it isn't good.

>>15263950
Seems better than the other options right now, hopefully I can get enough money to buy a couple patterns before the daily reset.

Quest for the chicken heart means I need to find a way to fuck the lich king's shit up, and Misha and Sukuha aren't tanky enough to get the job done.

-Is Riifu tanky enough?
-I haven't started investing in Retsua or Nadia (who I got from the gacha recently) yet- how high do I need to rank them before they become tanky enough?

>>15264243
Do you have Mirno? She can tank the liches with a couple healers on her, and do good damage before they close the gap too. Leshia is also good because of her magic resistance.

I actually just ignored him and the right side of the map to get an easy 2*, though.

>>15264252
>I actually just ignored him and the right side of the map to get an easy 2*, though.

I haven't gotten to this map yet (took a break for some dailies/grinding), but 2* is what I need to aim for when I get there. I don't suppose there's anything in particular you could expand on regarding how you handled it for the "easy 2*"?