/jp/ - Otaku Culture

No.

>>15244831
Nobody is.

The only ones playing it are HUEs and ROfags in denial.

yes

>>15244831
you guys told me this was the MMO that would save the genre

you guys also said the same thing about FFXIV and black desert

all of them sucked

>>15244881
FF14 was great dude.

>>15244900
he's probably some 28 year old who holds everything up to what he played in high school

>>15244900
>theme park mmo
>great

Yes, I'm still playing.

>>15244881
But black desert is fun if you enjoy grinding.

>>15244976
Who are you quoting?

>>15245006
ur mum

>>15244900
FF14 was bad, even FF11 was better

>>15244900
it was great until like level 35 then it got boring and i had to spent hours doing this fetch quest
>>15244974
>28
try 21

>>15244831
Kinda but it got boring quite fast.

Also the lack of a merchant class killed the game for some of us

I am but there is no jaypee guild.

>>15245240
In the last thread someone said that guilds are small and open you to be killed on sight by enemy guilds, their whole purpose was PvP which was a major disappointment.

>>15244881
MMORPGS are ded but atleast I enjoyed the time when the /j/aypees, /a/utists, and /m/anchildren played Cosmic Break OBT. Shit was so fucking cash.

>>15245240
there is actually one /jp/ guild on the making. as >>15245250 said, they are pretty small (25 that can be expanded to 35 members), and other guilds can start a war with any guild. There was also a update in kToS where guilds can now be in a neutral state where no other guild can war declarate you, we dont know yet when we will get it though

>>15244831
why is tos the /jp meme game?

I miss the old days when /jp/ used to play stuff together in large numbers.

>>15245296
Because you need to fucking leave you piece of shit.

>>15245302
There's no stuff to play anymore though.

>>15244881
Peria Chronicles will save MMORPGs and be like Mabinogi 2!

>>15245328
I thought they canned that one.

I'll be playing this until Legion
Hell I may not even buy Legion with how retarded Bliz have been lately
Cute comfy anime game > Garrison mission table 2.0

Irredeemable kusoge

My friends keep dragging me back to this but I don't understand how they can have fun like this if we're all seperated on progress thanks to quests.
I understand grind can be poo in games but this quest singleplayer experience surely can't be for anyone else but your average solo mmo player. I can't even talk to anyone about my woe because everyone just lashes out that I can "grind as much as I want" at level 200, but what are the odds that any of my friends or even me actually hitting that point with all these boring "get quest, kill 3 mobs in this area that take 2 minutes to respawn and repeat" quests? Tera had the exact same problem but you could just grind your way out of the painfully dull storyline of fetching 10 tusk butts and killing 10 tree golems.

>>15245512
I can make my teammates talk in missions as a falconer, when I fly over the pile of junk and just sit out the torch defend.

>>15245512
It's the new generation playing online to play alone. I still don't get it.

>>15245512
Fuck off to facebook if you want to be a super social little butterfly and make friends

I play games for the grinding and the story

>>15244831
No, I was expecting more Ro and I'm extremely dissapointed

The Project R1 hype is dead

>>15245629
No. The same system is in Lineage 1. Game deliberately isolates you to avoid other's help you so you have to grind all the hard way and more willing to donate. F2P money squeezing. From the player's point of view this looks absurd - online game with lots of people in it won't allow people to play together. No fun allowed. Shaddap and give us money.

I have trouble getting into MMOs now. Tera was the last MMO I played but I couldn't fully get into it because the latency made it unenjoyable when all I wanted to do was play a Lancer. I've tried Nostalrius but got burnt out at level 10 and haven't tried anything since.

I have trouble getting into MMOs now. Tera was the last MMO I played but I couldn't fully get into it because the latency made it unenjoyable when all I wanted to do was play a Lancer. I've tried Nostalrius but got burnt out at level 10 and haven't tried anything since.

>>15245834 >>15245914
MMOs are not as popular as they used to be. As in, there are a few great ones at the top but most of the middle and low end from the mid-late 2000s have disappeared. You can pick one of several popular games and maybe about 50-100 random crappy Chinese MMOs but, while that sounds big, the selection used to be like 10x that. I don't think it's that people are completely losing interest so much as innovations/effort going into other things instead because the novelty of being on the internet has faded for most of the younger (under 25-30) generation. Also, because every other game these days is online, the whole aspect of an MMO isn't as desired because you can already get it in your favorite game.

>>15246077
I think it's also that people have shorter attention spans and do their online socializing elsewhere.

MMOs used to be about creating an alter ego that required commitment, and involvement with a community.

Now people get all their socializing done of facebook or whatever, so they don't need to socialize in games. Or if they do, it's just steam friends. They're not people you have to interact with, they're just people that you will sometimes play with (MMOs also had this kind of friend, but the fact that you needed them meant a higher chance of it being actual friend level, nor FB friend level).

People just want to hop in for a game or two of whatever FPS, LOL, or whatever multiplayer game is popular. And the bigger MMOs are following in suit to try to retain customers. But in the end they're just shooting themselves in the foot, because they're becoming a normal online co-op game with the UI of a MMO.

One can only hope there might be a small MMO revival with VR tech, because immersing yourself in another world has always been a trope.

>>15244900
>FF14 was great dude

>>15246077
MMOs are more popular than ever but way more split across several games, same as for all of videogames.
Now please fuck off to /v/.

>>15245360
Nexon bought it and hid it so they could release Mapleshitty 2 first. It's status is unknown right now. ToS makes me hope they don't even bother showing any previews until/unless they have a game that's somewhat ready for release. ToS's own hype is killing it as players wouldn't even give them time to finish the game.

>>15246183
>more popular than ever
A single person having 5 accounts across 5 games does not make MMOs popular.

>>15246188
No one asked for this early-access buy-in release. Everyone was expecting a big dev time between OBT1 and OBT2, with only a chance that OBT2 would let you keep progress. TOS say that they could make a cash grab and make people buy into the game before they realized it was shit.

TOS is an okay game, but I can't see it having any staying power.

>>15246183
I guess it depends on what you call an MMO. More games have online now, so there's that. Video games as a whole have collectively grown.
>Now please fuck off to /v/.
Most people have multiple interests and thus can talk about multiple things within the same discussion.

>>15245648
>>15246183
Where do you people come from

It is fun to me. Plays like Path of Exile.

If they'd just fix the fps issues I would have actual hope of the game staying around.

>>15245834
Why are MMORPG textures always so fucking shitty?

I'm playing it more than Dark Souls 3, so that must mean something.

I got one character to r7 and I'm working on an archer now (already at lv156). I thought I would have dropped it by now and moved back to reading eroge or something after a month or so.

Why are you playing this kusoge while you can play Aura Kingdom? (private server not official jewria one) It even have little girls as a pet and companion.

>>15246380
>Aura Kingdom
Looks like a generic anime 3d mmo like flyff or something
ToS has a pretty unique style, it's more similar to Ragnarok than anything, though the gameplay is quite different.

>>15246380
Aura Kingdom is kusoge, though. Trust me, I've played this shit for quite a while.

>>15244831
Personally I'd rather go back into a random RO private server instead.

>>15246422
Do you play in official or private server?

>>15246430
Private (Aura). End game is really repetitive, then again what MMO doesn't suffer from that.

>>15246411
Pretty sure Aura Kingdom is the only game that done 3d anime mmo right. The rest of anime mmo are either too blob or look like a down syndrome kid.

>>15246435
Well, now they have update with new dungeons and new maps along with new class.

>>15246380
90% 3d modellers 10% actual gameplay programmers: the game
Game looks good but it's complete trash otherwise

>>15244871
>ROfags in denial
This. I also cannot believe how much they fucked up the iOB launch. They scared everyone willing to play this off.

>>15244881
>tfw spent 100 dollars on black desert for the best beta package

What a fucking waste of money
that game ended up being shit

>>15246451
I've played Shuriken if that's what you're talking about. Anyway, enjoy your lolis or w/e.

>>15246464
It's completely casual mmo with generic storyline but the good thing about being casual is at least they don't try to implement some retard mechanic and littered the game with stupid bugs.

>>15246464
To be fair, the programmers have nothing to do with the design (unless they take both roles). They just get told what to do by designers and then follow instructions, much like artists.

>>15246484
P-please come back. We need fodder- I mean more player for ST hell.

Fixed camera angles are annoying.

>>15244831
The ping was just unbearable so unless they create oceanic server, I'm holding off.

Shame it's a great game though.

>>15246547
There's already a SEA server for the likes for you.

I wish I could go back in time and take /jp/ with me to play Ultima Online back in the day.
There's no MMORPG out there today that appeals to me; a few of them are in development, but I have no faith in them.

>>15246591
Nope. That SEA server is located in Singapore and their shitty cable lines makes it even more unbearable.

Regardless, it's fucked anyway for us strayans.

>>15246606
UO seems like that shitty survival town making MMO /jp/ was playing, the one that was making a sequel called Salem or something. You can't be cute in it either.

>>15246647
Just go on Klaipeda, anon.
SEA may be closer to you, but the huge population makes it terrible.

>>15246662
/jp/ haven and hearth was 100% the best MMO experience with /jp/ out of all of them

tera was also pretty good but that's because /vg/ got scared away by everyone going on the japanese server

>>15246547
When did you play?
If it was at free to play launch then it may have just been server lag, they did quite a few maintenance recently that cleared a lot of it up
I'm playing from the UK on Klaipeda and don't have any lag now, but it was bad the first few days of FTP

>>15246740
Lag is nearly a 100% based on how far you're getting
the closer you are to a town, the less lag, the further you get, the worse it gets.
//ping gives me 0.91~ in 200 level zones but 0.15~ in towns.

>>15246380
I've never played this, I'm downloading it now, I hope it's lots of fun!

>>15244831
I can't believe I bought the most expensive DLC and stopped playing entirely after 2 days. Wasted.

I had more fun in RO2.

>>15246794
Aura Kingdom is horrible. It's already bad during the early access even.

I don't play a lot of MMOs but

>Runescape: meh
>Maplestory: meh
>WoW: meh
>RO: meh
>RO2: Good
>Aura Kingdom: meh
>PSO2: Okay
>Tera: Good
>Toram Online: Okay
>Blades and Soul: Okay
>Tree of Savior: Bad

My personal opinion. For the most part I only care about player interactions like open PvP which RO2 is very good at. Aura Kingdom was okay with this but game mechanic wasn't that fun.

>live in japan
>not available in your region

>>15246844
>RO: meh
>RO2: Good

>>15246794
Remember to download from aurakingdom.to and not aeria.

>>15245361
Same here, but with FFXIV and Granblue Fantasy instead. It speaks leagues of WoW when I can actually find a damn mobage more entertaining than WoD.

>>15246844
I guess MMORPS aren't for you.

>>15246886
I hate MMO's that won't let me become a cute loli with a scythe. RO2 was incredibly good with this.

>>15246897
>with a scythe
Worst weapon.

>>15246866
it's heavily hinted that they're going to pull the plug on the japanese version, or either release on septembre
literally no reason to play anything but kToS version anyhow though
>>15246897
sounds like you need some mabinogi in your life (loli not pictured, but available)

>>15246911
He just wants to be an edgy magical girl, anon.

I would rather become the cutest.

>>15246919
Actually I just want to make video game characters based on me irl

Just downloaded ToS. I'm on the east coast of the US. Which is the best server? Some are unmarked.

>>15246934
Do you have friends who play the same game?

>>15246917
Real thick.

>>15246937
>Do you have friends
No.

>>15246911
Fuck you, dess Scythe is the best weapon dess

>>15246942
... ToS is the kind of game that's really hard to make friends. You won't last long in this game.

Since you have no friends any server won't make a difference

>>15246942
I know most of the people in the previous ToS thread are on Klaipeda, with a few in Orsha.
Those two are the NA ones.

>>15246942
What are your interests?

Not many people choose Orsha. You can really stand out in there...

Anyone want to play with me on kToS?

>>15246983
anything Korean always dies first.

>>15246994
The game is much better on a low and comfy population + the kToS actually has events and doesn't include the bad nerfs iToS has for some reason.

>>15246965
>>15246973
Gonna try Klaipeda then and test Orsha later to see if I get better latency.

>>15246966
I dunno, I just do whatever. Gaming is one of course. I'm a legit hiki but not as much into Touhou/anime as most of /jp/.

>>15247005
Here's a tip for you. To become a special snowflake.. your team name must be something special because it will appear in everywhere like the chat. You can't duplicate it if someone else have picked it first. That name will also appear next to every characters you make.

However, your character names can duplicate. I was incredibly upset after I learnt about this because it feels like Inflation.

It's the only MMO I've seen in a long time that is not blatantly pay2win

>>15247005
IIRC, Klai and Orsha are both east coast.
If that's true, the only major difference will be the players.

>>15246876
I got the torrent from there, is there a /jp/ guild or is it only you playing?

>>15246948
>Fuck you, dess Scythe is the best weapon dess
I don't know who you're imitating, but the character who I know does that recognizes the innate superiority of little girls with big hammers.

>>15247022
Yeah, I was looking that up just now when it asked for one. So apparently this game goes for the firstname lastname RP style but allows you to hide your first name, only requiring a unique last name. I'm alright with that.

>>15247005
Sorry, I doubt we'll be able to hit it off, then.
I hope you'll find somebody who suits you.

Still working towards that /jp/ guild
I found this today, think I should sell it?

>>15247032
Gameplay wise, you must always talk to every NPC and accept their quest. They will give a lot of EXP tickets that you need to activate in inventory...

Limited hairstyles in character selection.. but you can buy them exclusively in the P2W shop along with costumes..

>>15246934
ToS's NA servers (Klaipeda and Orsha) are both in the eastern USA. Just play on Klaipeda.

>>15247028
We have 4chan guild in /vg/ but we are too lazy to make a thread anymore. You can post your ign and ask any question here when you finished torrenting. Also a warning, this game is extremely casual and pretty much nothing beyond, quest, grinding, cute costume and little girl pet. Also no rp or erp allowed.

>>15247043
>Cards
Can you equip those to your character for stats like RO or... they're just Yu-Gi-Oh thingy in the game itself.

>>15247043
Make it first and then sell it.

>>15247058
Well, I don't have high expectations of MMOs, at worst I'll stop playing in a week and go back to what I always do.

>>15247038
It's okay. I was planning to go into this solo and if I happened to run into anyone along the way, that would be neat too.

I'm not against the typical topics of this board, was even playing TH10 just yesterday, but, you know, it was more a "never got around to it" sorta thing. Most of the people I know love this stuff so I'm used to hearing people talk about it.

>>15247044
What's the worst instance of P2W in the game?

>>15247049
I will, then.

What's the best stats?

>>15247062
There's a card minigame, yeah.
There's also a particular class (which I don't remember right now) that has a skill that summons the boss in the card as a pet/ally.

>>15247071
Well not much actually. Just stuff that makes your character stands out.

You can buy p2w VIP thingy with in-game currency in the auction house. cost a lot.

>>15247062
Some classes use them for skills, Sorcerer and Necromancer to be exact. They're basically used to summon bosses to fight for you.

>>15247062
Cards are for the Sorcerer(Devil type), Necromancer(Beast, Mutant, and Plant type), and Wugushi(Insect type) classes.

They're used to summon bosses, manipulate the properties of the shoggoth(flesh golem), and do something with the type of poison, respectively to the classes above.

Also yes, you can play a card game with them.

So what class are you using? I heard the best PvP is that poison arrow guy and the voodoo puppet thingy.

(I quit the game haha)

>>15247076
>What's the worst instance of P2W in the game?
Enchants that you can put on your head gear. You can get the scrolls from dungeons too, but you can get like 3 lines of enchants on three headgear slots, for a total of 9 lines. They work like reforges in Mabinogi sort of, except you can lose lines too by rerolling

It's not really that big a deal though.

>be me p2w rich fag in early access
>poorfags make more progress than me ingame

>>15247107
Hard work and guts,anon.

>>15247107
What level is your main? I'm 235 and I'm a wageslave. Doesn't include alts.

>>15247107
who quote
>>15246983
Sure, got an email or steam?

>>15247135
I couldn't compete with normies so I my shame made me quit at level 50. Also fire wizard.

This game needs more cute things, like a bar like in the character select where you can sit on things and MML.

people still insist that these /v/ autist jerkoff games are /jp/ related. To top it off, this is a garbage mmo quest game where the userbase does nothing but race to level cap

>>15247200
/v/ here. Missclicked and clicked /jp/ and this was the first thread.
What mmos do you consider non /v/ autistic jerkoff games and are JP related

>>15247448
Not him but mmos are garbage that end up in epeen circlejerk by default.
If you want to chill with /jp/ so badly there's always gikopoi.

>>15247200
It's this, or Touhou Thread #478937583239408329043 Mk2 about how Mokotan armpits smell like, or that damn AV thread (which SHOULD be in /s/).

Tree of Savior is a great example of a game that was developed around a MBA's structure of a cashshop. All aspects of this game are designed with dependence on buying perks and features. Which is a complete and utter disgrace, as the design team did a phenomenal job. An analogy would be an overpriced coffee vending machine that, through some miracle of modern science, offers Pinot noir. For a few bucks, you get half a disposable Styrofoam cup's worth of pure bliss.

>>15246647
I'm assuming /jp/ plays on a north american server. What is the game like to play on higher latency?

>>15247966
I was playing with an average of 200ms and it was okay, it has crazy problems with fps though, at any moment outside the cities it went from 40-120 for seemingly no reason and if there were more than 4 characters in the screen shooting stuff it would slow down to single digit fps.
My pc isn't the biggest but I can play 4v4 SC2 on ultra and it drops to 30fps at worst.

>>15247966
I'm playing from Europe on Klaipeda and it is noticeable, like sometimes it feels like you dodge something or are out of range of an enemy ability but it still hits because of lag but overall the pace of the game isn't very high so it's very playable with some lag.

>>15247499
That doesn't change the fact that this game is garbage. You're defending a shameless cash grab kusoge.

>>15248430
All MMORPGs are cash grabs.

I am not "defending" anything. I am saying that some fuckign variety on topics would do this board some good. The ennui in the topics we see here is so palpable when all we see are stupid touhou topics and memes.

There is nothing wrong with mentioning or discussing games that are NOT TOUHOU. People used to discuss RPGMaker games here, they were told to fuck off to /vg/. People actually trying to discuss the Touhou games are told to go to /v/. Any eroge that are not VNs are told to go to /h/.

There is no valid argument for having those topics move there other than misguided elitism and retarded memes. The image you posted is a clear example of this behavior.

>>>/soc/23791981
Tovarisch show yourself

Honestly doesn't sound like you even belong here.

So, am I a Savior, or a Revelator
The game seems to refer to me as both
Also, how does a swordie get magic defense, mages rip me a new butthole

>>15249083
four piece cloth armor
bracelets
amulets

just drink pots, swordsmen are pure suffering and struggle.

I'm downloading it, what awaits me?

>>15249590
Cute characters and costumes, but not that good as an actual game.
I honestly don't know why I'm addicted.

>>15249593
You have to level up right? Is it easy? Or is a hard game to play?

>>15249604
Not very hard, but it is pretty grindy.
Such is life in Korean MMOs.

There's also one guy trying to reach the guildmaster class so we can have a /jp/ guild.
Maybe we can grind and be cute together then.

>>15249590
What this guy said >>15249593

This game has potential to be really good, they need to fix some of the retarded shit, like not being able to move while queuing for a dungeon, and not being put in a party of 1 tank 1 healer 3 dps
The longer they take to make these changes the more players they will lose

>>15249617
Sure mate, why not? My name is Sam Gold, add me if you want.

>>15249642
What server, anon?

>>15249680
haha, I'm still downnloading it on steam. Sam Gold is my nickname on steam, you can add me there if you want.

>>15247058
I just made a character, it's called Nezh.

>>15249083
A revelator is a group of people. You in particular are the one who is destined to save the world or whatever. The others are trash revelators.

>>15250107
So when you will be online?

>>15250640
I'll be on now for an hour or so and then I'll be back in about 9 hours.

What's the best class to play solo?

>>15251859
If by "best", you mean easiest, then pretty much anything that isn't full support.
Do note that if you're going to be swordsman, people will usually want you to take at least 1 circle in Peltasta for the monster aggro skill, for dungeon runs and general monster grinding.

>>15251815
Do you see whisper I send you?

>>15251968
My internet went down for a second, I'm online right now.

>>15251987
Switch your chat to whisper or any tab till you see purple chat.

Don't bother with this game, it's just /vg/ crossies trying to recruit /jp/sies.

I'm playing. It's nice for grinding and collecting cute hats, but I wish there was more to it.

>>15252313
Honestly, the amount of cute hats is lacking.

How many maidens have you saved today /jp/ ?

>>15254902
I want to fuck a goddess

>>15254902
How does she keep her nipples in line with that little piece of cloth?

>>15254756
There are a ton, but I guess Ragnarok had more. Hopefully IMC aren't abandoning this and will add more in the future.

>>15255343
She IS a goddess.
Do goddesses have to worry about minor things like clothing?

Would anybody be interested in starting a new character with me? I'll play a healer and support you forever!

>>15255484
Only if I get to play a healer too.

>>15255509
Really? I'm ok with that.

>>15255514
I'm only joking. I'm too shy to play with others.

>>15255557
I'm sad for both of us, anon.

>>15255557
Why not, anon?
Won't you join a /jp/ guild?
assuming someone gets to templar in the first place

>>15255564
>assuming someone gets to templar

Working on it, please look forward to it!

>>15255575
Do you think we can fill all 25-35 guild slots, anon?

>>15255591
Maybe, I have 10 or so on my friends list
Hopefully a guild will encourage a few others to come join us.

>>15246844
>ro2
>good
You serious?

>>15246959
Seriously. There's no reason to make friends for most of the game. If you already have friends it's actually inconvenient to play together

>>15247066
>ruining that potential
Why

>>15255726
Friends would be useful if it weren't one big quest grind.

>>15255750
Items are usually worth more than their recipes, since it's generally easier to get them than to make them.

>>15255575
How long will it take to get to Templar? Will you make a new thread if this one's dead?

>>15255884
I have no idea how long it will take, depends how bad the grind gets and when the quest areas dry up, hopefully not much more than a week?
I didn't make the thread, guess I'll leave that up to whoever

>>15255484
I've wanted to do something like this with a /jp/ for a while, but I dislike being obliged to play when they play and that sort of thing.

>>15255917
>>15255726
You don't have to be the same level. Teh higher one won't really get any exp but they can take the lower level to a high level place.

What the fuck is up with all these fucking shills? MMOs are dead, go back to >>>/v/.

>>15256070
Don't only primary /v/ users say stuff like "shills"? Stop pretending you're better than them.

Agapi
Klapedia
Pyro?

>>15256234
anon are you okay

>>15244881
>Black Desert
>Shit

Shit taste there you raging autist

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Good game.

>>15256597
tg;dr

>>15256597
The only reason I even play is
costume > hat > hat > hat > costume > hat > costume > hat > hat > be sad because there's no /jp/ gild yet

>>15246482
>>15246482
Absolute shit taste here
This is truly the worst board

>>15256622
It's a good thing you realized it, I hope you leave and never come back. It's for your own sake. Bye.

>>15256622
さよなら～

>>15256633
>le goodbye xD meme
>muh sekrit klub

>>15256596
black desert is shit

at least the combat is decent

>>15256717
It's really not though you fucking casual

>>15256727
it's shit

>>15256727
Compelling arguments you have there. Truly shows your heritage.

>>15256749
>People saying it's shit xd is an argument
>Me saying it isn't is a terrible argument

Fuck me you guys are idiots

>>15256798
who quote

>>15256811
read the fucking thread

>>15256817
>read the fucking thread
Nobody has said what you quoted
have you accidentally clicked on a wrong thread friend
its okay we here on /jp/ dont judge by the slightest.

>>15256835
these posts

>>15246482
>>15244881
>>15256717
>>15256736

>>15256854
But those don't even have "xd" in them
Are you sure you're attempting to quote them instead of greentexting.

>>15256861
is this your first day online

>>15256874
I'm here to help anon, here is how you correctly quote someone.

>>15256874
>is this your first day online
No.

>>15256877
this is all wrong lmao
fuck me this board is retarded

>>15256881
Welcome to /jp/
now get out

>Not uninstalling this garbage
>Not playing Overwatch
>Tree of Savior
>7 years in development

>>15256920
Who are you quoting though?
Why is this thread still alive janny?

>>15256920
I want /vg/ to go away
why cant we have /jp/ threads about MMOs without them being /vg/ advertisements or just flat out kusoge threads

>>15256920
/vg/ please go.
I just want to be comfy and cute with other /jp/sies.

>>15256920
>Overwatch

>>15256966
It's probably not even /vg/, but /v/ shitting up /jp/ and /vg/ because their own board is an irrelevant cesspit. Just ignore them entirely.

>>15257151
/v/ and /vg/ are nearly both the same

>>15257159
Due to /v/'s efforts. Consider how many topics on /vg/ were previously /jp/ topics. The im@s and erogame threads for example.

>>15246844
>runescape
>meh
you are meh

Probably never been so disappointed at a game.

>>15246260
my guess, they're corss-boarding here for the JAV thread.

>>15255614
I'd join if you guys made a guild.

>>15255575
Are you on Klai or Orsha?

>>15257035
C-can we get a /jp/ group for overwatch, too?

>>15257564
He's on Klai, iirc.

>>15257526
It takes a while to get the guildmaster class, anon.
You need a minimum of class rank 7, which you reach at around level 220-230.

>>15257568
Fuck that overpriced piece of shit

>>15257564
klaipedo

>>15257151
it's not like /jp/ is any better these days.

>>15257634
I don't think /jp/ will ever be as bad as something like /v/ or /vg/ just because how small of a community it has compared to those two boards, and thanks to the onahole threads, I want to X to Y 2hu threads, yukkuri threads and of course kigurumi threads, you can bet your cute bottom that /jp/ will always remain easy.

Also I'm open for going on kToS and negotating an account transfer to jToS once it launches if anyone is interested, I'd supply mobile phone numbers and VPN's (high quality business tier) for jToS if needed as well.

>>15257718
I want to play with JKs!

>>15257744
what's a JK
japanese-korean?
jaypay-korean?
jailbait-kids?

>>15257718
Just a heads up, last time someone did this they got their account locked down because /vg/ got upset /jp/ joined the japanese server instead of the NA server and spammed his account with password resets and random login attempts, so use a different email for login.
But otherwise I'd love to join, I hear good things about the korean version compared to the international version.

>>15257770
>what's a JK

>>15257785
Sorry, I thought it was related to ToS for a second and I wasn't thinking straight.

>>15257568
I'm in!

>>15257718
>onahole threads, I want to X to Y 2hu threads, yukkuri threads and of course kigurumi

Those are the worst threads on any board. I could make a whole thread just about how stupid the yukkuri threads are.

Ha, get fucked

>>15257718
Anyhow, if anyone wants to join on my (hopefully soon to be OUR) wonderous adventure, please do drop an email at jp@waifu.club

I'd love to play with /jp/ again and I think we could have a lot of fun, I will also start on friday night in japantime so people won't feel underleveled.

>>15257857
yukkuri are certainly the worst

>>15257718
I want to play with JKs!

>>15255575
I'm going to give it a shot so add me, my team name is Salcas

Today I spent 3 hours grinding for a hat.

>>15258334
It's a cute hat.

New Janitor must be retarded, he deletes posts but not the thread.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who made this shit thread

>>15258334
It's a dumb hat!

>>15257564
>>15257573
>>15257593
Is there more people playing on Orsha? Klaipedia is laggy as hell

>>15258435
There are a lot more people on Klaipeda.

>>15258438
a lot more /vg/*

>>15258570
A lot more people in general, not just /vg/.

>>15258577
like /v/ and /a/ and reddit

>>15258577
brs aren't people

>>15258594
>>15258570
Go be autistic somewhere else.

>>15258435
I picked Orsha, but honestly both servers feel desolate and laggy. Im not sure why I bothered.

>>15255907
There's no grind until around 210. You should be able to quest to that level. But this is coming from someone that had a token. It should take longer than a week I think.

>>15259097
Quests are the worst part about this and every MMO there.

Fact: Not a single quest means fucking anything in any MMO if you're doing it alone, and chances are you're doing it alone.

>>15257981
how do i sign up for ktos?

>>15259364
What's a good quest? Or do you just want to gather bear butts together? You can group up and complete quests together.

>>15259589
He said the existence of the quests itself is the worst in MMO, I think?

I personally wouldn't go that far. I'm fine with job-changing quests and crating quests in RO. But when every relevant progression is dependent on quests like how it is in modern MMO, it's the worst.

>>15258626
It's a fact though?
Why are you triggered?

>>15259364
Respectfully disagree anon
I'm having fun questing, some of the story is pretty interesting if you actually read it and quite sad in places, I've buried quite a few people now.
I think it has potential to have a better story and lore than a lot of games, TERA for example which is just garbage story

>>15259956
If the main quest line was all there was it would be fine. As it is 99% of the game is retarded fetch quests. Would have been better with just the main quest line and mob grind for the rest.

>>15260018
I wouldn't mind if that were the case, collecting bear asses does get a bit boring, though they would have to increase mob exp and spawns to make grinding more viable

What server is jaypee playing on?

>>15260245
Mostly Klaipeda, a few in Orsha.
We don't have any guilds yet, but one guy in these threads is on Klaipeda and is grinding to get the guildmaster class.

>>15260253
He asked for /jp/ not /vg/, /vg/-kun.

>>15260325
/vg/ already have guilds tho

/jp/ meetup in klai when?
never

>>15260491
I'd be fine if we do it in Orsha (the city).
Klai is too crowded to be comfy.

>>15260018
Almost all the side quests provide side stories though. Honestly, I find them more interesting than the main story and I wish you didn't have to follow the main story. I'd rather bust evil cults, watch girls be infected by fern spores, hunt down some crazy guy poisoning everyone, learn about an ancient rebellion, and sabotage the plans of an immortality obsessed mad baron than whatever stupid shit about titty demons and titty goddesses fucking about and being useless.

>>15260932
Don't talk shit about titty demons dude

>>15259398
Not the same fellow but I'm pretty sure you need a korean mobile phone number/a verified korean account.
>>15257981
Sent an email, here's hoping we can at least get 4 people.

>>15257981
What are the major differences between iToS and kToS?

>>15262407
iToS
PROS:
*Bigger population
*Newer server
*Doesn't require some gook verification account
*It's mostly english
*Different nerfs/buffs compared to kToS
*Not published by Nexon
CONS:
*Lag
*Content is behind
*Oh god the Lag
*Bigger population resides in non american/european servers
*Very bad management
*Those different buffs/nerfs are NOT GOOD and destroy half of the classes
*Bots and goldsellers are already majorly flooding the game (goldsellers are profiting very heavily because you can't buy TP in iToS so people are throwing their money at goldsellers, goldsellers are almost out of stock aka more bots)
*Dungeon runs per day are much lower than kToS (5 vs 3with token/2 without token)

kToS
PROS:
*Up to date, nice updates and balance patches compared to iToS
*Barely any if at all bots
*Unlike the iToS system, you can actually buy ingame goldmonies so you can be a sparkly cutie
*Servers are stable and not-laggy
*Many events that allow you to get goldmonies/stat and skill resets
*Jaypee and Japanese
*Less buggy
CONS:
*It's korean
*It's dying out pretty fast, but this can also be considered a good thing (if you want to do world bosses)
*You need a verified account
*Ping because of distance?
*Somewhat small english-speaking playerbase
*Nexon

That's about it, the korean version is pretty much 100% translated trough a patch though.

>>15262534
can you please keep your /vg/ meme images on /vg/

>>15263245
You can tell he is from video game generals. Nobody understands their lame elementary school humor.

>>15263285
What lame elementary school humor?
What are you babbling about?

>>15257718
>>15257981
I haven't gotten any emails so I'm guessing nobody shares my interest. I'll still gladly accept anyone wanting to join in the future though.
>>15262407
iToS is basically it's own branch when it comes to balance and unique content as it seems, and in general it is more of a beta release compared to the korean release because it seemingly was rushed a bit to quell down on the negative reviews the steam page got thanks to the game not being available for everyone in the beta state.
And whilist >>15262534's post was kind of a mess, he was right about the server instability on the international version, bundled with its own balancing, which I can't really talk about because I haven't played said classes yet.

>>15263245
Its a screenshot from the game, you retard.

>>15263416
keep them in /vg/

>>15244831

I tried it but the whole solo generic storyline quest stuff is boring and outside of that it's just grinding. It's not very fun to play because you're basically solo forever.

Looks like my kToS account from the CBT still working.
Which server are we going to play on kToS?

>>15263721
No idea, choose one on your free will since it seems there's only two of us playing there.

3 hours of industrial drake farming!.

Another hat in my collection.

>>15264556
Your hotkeys are all kinds of weird.

Anyone wanna do the 90 dungeon for exp?

>>15264585
This is why you should've picked Klaipeda

>>15264556
Congrats man
I need to farm drakes at some point for both those and the horns

>>15264556
Why that ugly looking headgear?

Damnit, I was playing on SEA since everybody I knew was playing that server. Guess it's time to roll another FS Cleric on Klai. How large is the /jp/ group on Klai? I'm gonna be pretty far behind, hopefully I can catch up and join you guys soon enough.

>>15265453
We're not really a group, everyone is doing their own thing until we get a guild, which might be a while still

Played it to like level 40. It's not a huge improvement over RO, but atleast it got quests. Granted later on sidequests givers don't have indicators so you might miss them, which is terrible design. The sub class system is pretty shit. Half the options are traps and look so bad that I don't even know why they exist. It's like the devs haven't played an MMO in the last 10 years. The combat is just button mashing and difficulty only comes from 'suddenly flying enemies' or similarely. And then it's all grinding. All in all. Not worth anyones time.

>>15265738
>It's like the devs haven't played an MMO in the last 10 years

But this a big part of the appeal for a lot of people
It's like I'm playing the kind of game that I grew up with, and not a modern theme park give everything to everyone on a silver plate mmo

>>15265738
I've played ToS since icbt2 and I can clearly say this is not, in anyway, like RO unless you count both being an MMORPG. Just playing it because timesink.

>>15265788
>It's like I'm playing the kind of game that I grew up with, and not a modern theme park give everything to everyone on a silver plate mmo
Wrong thread?

>>15265738
The ridiculous amount of quests is one of the worst things about it.

>>15265738
>quests
>instances
>channels
>monsters spawn on a fixed, small area
this game is exactly like any other modern mmorpg
that's why it's shit

>>15265263
But I am in Klaipeda.

>>15265802
Personally, the only thing I wanted from a "game like RO" was relatively cute enemies and humanoid female monster enemies and "what the HELL is this, anyway?" enemies. This game at least does that. I'm so sick of random animals and monster animals.

>>15265886
Mabinogi was like that since the beginning and it's only like 2 years younger than RO.

Wanted to play this but then get told I have to wait till August in Japan for open beta...

>>15265939
Mabinogi has non-limited dungeon runs and had some of the best social interaction mechanics when it came to those dungeons and gameplay in general, mabinogi also has quests that actually have you move around the world and do things instead of every one of them being slay 5 mutated boar butts

Play on NovaRO instead jaypee.

>>15266020
>Mabinogi has non-limited dungeon runs
No it doesn't. Even from the beginning, it had all levels of stupid shit like needing to hunt down timed passes to enter the dungeons above the basic level. Most of the highest things like Lord Missions, Alban training ground, and "Raids" are limited to 3 a day.

>had some of the best social interaction mechanics when it came to those dungeons
How so, other than needing to actually make a party through asking people? Or do you just mean how some story quests (used to) require multiple people to do them?

>mabinogi also has quests that actually have you move around the world and do things instead of every one of them being slay 5 mutated boar butts
However even in the beginning, real old, 2008 new in America, G1 Mabinogi had a bunch of newbie quests that were just "go here and talk to this guy" and "kill all these different colored bears and wolves". Not even any story. Although, that is because story is completely optional(and even required you to pay to do it back then)

Then there were party quests and hunting quests and the exploration quests which are more or less boar butt quests, with exploration also offering digging quests and sketching quests.

But yeah, it does have quests that don't just involve killing things. Also I can't think of a single "gathering items from a gather point" quest, which is what I hate the most about ToS quests in particular, although I'm sure some story quest has something like that.

But fuck do I hate those gathering quests. I was going to kill those Kepas anyway, but making me pick all those poison spewing, exploding plants that spawn enemies when I fail is the worst.

I wish Mabinogi had significant grinding for cute clothes/hats/robes though and that it would steal that dungeon event thing ToS has going on in the questless dungeons. They're kind of cruddy but interesting.

>>15266099
No, RO is a dead and shitty game. ToS at least has the potential to have good new content. RO will just keep getting dumb shit added to it from now on or be stuck forever in the past.

Also I'm addicted to the do-nothingness of Mabinogi, where I can do whatever I want without feeling obligated to, and get exp for it too.

>>15265738
>Quests
>Chosen hero
>Public workslave
>will betray bros for EXP cards
RIP Demonbro

>>15266123
And so is Mabinogi.

>>15266123
>I wish Mabinogi had significant grinding for cute clothes/hats/robes though
To be completely honest, mabinogi does have a fuck ton of grinding for certain amounts of clothing, to the point where I think you could at least get 60% of (this is talking from the japanese mabinogi viewpoint) non-gapcha and quest related clothing and hats from grinding.

>>15244831
LET BAKE /jp/ RO (Pre-Renewal) ALREADY! 150x 150x 1x rates so we get into the late game PvP WoE asap.

porings > payon cave 1-3 > leaf cats > seals/sanctuary > abyss lake dragons > PvP / WoE / MvPs

Max level can be 99 or 150 or 255 however you want. Max job level = high so you get all the play styles in one class. PK server (over a certain level) so it feels like Gensokyo.

3rd classes only exist as sprites in case you prefer their clothes.

>>15266228
Why not just play jRO you nostalgia tinted babby? I mean they already fixed all the kusoge things people complained about in renewal there so it would be perfect for people like you.

>>15266248
Dumb response.

>>15266276
He's partially right though. There really is no point in staying on pre-re when there is new content being churned out for kRO and jRO, jRO in particular with alternative 3rd job costumes.

>>15266293
Dumber because doesn't wants to play attention for a reason.

>>15266304
Okay

>>15266228
I still don't get it how you people can play the same content for nearly 7 years in a row now, time to move on perhaps?

I gave it a shot, been playing for a week and a half yet I'm on Fedimian so... sucks. Been roaming around, still have to tackle a world boss or something like that, haven't even seen one, guess they are being camped really bad. Rolled a swordsman, then got told I did wrong, meh.

I tried to play it, but I can never get the launcher working, it gets stuck on 0% something files then just closes. Huge issue apparently since launch, nobody gives a shit enough to fix it though.

Shame art is beautiful and one of my favourite producers (symphonix) did quite a bit of the music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NCXHhoy7rk

>>15266378
Too bad ToS music is randomized and turns up pretty bad and annoying.

>>15266355
People are still speedrunning Castlevania Symphony of The Night after all this years what do you know? who are you to judge? because...
What is a man!? A miserable pile of secrets! But enough talk! Have at you!

>>15266404
You know this is cringe-worthy, right? SOTN does not get new content, it is a finished game and I barely believe that you play Ragnarok Online for speedrunning.

>>15266412
You really are a huge baka aren't you? You didn't got my point across.

This is more your speed: "Fun games are fun and don't get boring easily".

>>15266446
Yes, as you should join a new server instead of a private server where you instantly get to max level, because new things in fun games are fun.

>>15266378
Symphonix is all that is wrong with ToS music.
Fuck you and your kind.

>>15266576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqSOPhNzotA

How can you hate the funky psytrance?

SoundTeMP are better

SFA and Kevin are best.

what server

>>15266949
>>>/vg/142922918
is this you?

>>15266991
Yes, I found it pretty obvious after posting the image that nobody from /jp/ plays on the korean version, so I'm grasping at straws in /vg/.

They seem to be more interested in talking about bugs though.

>>15267000
There's no reason to play on the Korean version unless you're Korean. Also they played on Vakarine, if I remember, during that period after iCBT 2 was over and there was no other server to play on.

>>15266949
I'm >>15263721
And no idea as well

>>15267055
Well, Vakarine does have the highest english talking population, but on the other hand that isn't always a good thing fro my experiences in PSO2.

If you'd choose one, I'd join happily.

>>15267055
>>15267063
Vakarine it is

We Doppel now
Templar soon™

>>15268072
How do you level up so fast, anon?
It's been only around a week.
Maybe I just take too long because of constant hat farming.

>>15268072
I'm waiting warmly.

>>15268093
Just been questing and doing my daily stuff, I've had to start using scrolls now though because the quest area's are getting further between, luckily I did have a stack saved but now they are gone, I might have to start grinding
I use better quest addon too, helps a lot

>>15268129
What scrolls, exp scrolls?

Why is this thread getting so many replies? /jp/ is not this fast.

>>15268287
/vg/

>>15268255
Yea, I was trying to use them only when I needed to

>>15268376
This artwork is awful.

>>15268287
290 replies in 6 days is not fast. Especially for a non-shit thread.

>>15268376
I meant exp tomes, but you meant the exp cards didn't you?

>>15268458
I don't think there's much fan art yet, I hope we get some good ones later, could be pretty cute
The RO community produced a fair amount of fan works and a lot have maybe jumped ship to this.

>>15268509
Yea I mean the cards from quests, I don't have tp for tomes and stuff

>>15268529
There's fan art on Pixiv, but the tagging system is dumb and uses like 7 different tags for the game's name.

>>15268072
What will you name the guild?

>>15268619
Boypucchi Squad

>>15268644
Well, you're our templar, no one can stop you.

I hope you are all saving your talt to give to your guild.

>>15268797
I've been saving talt for the longest time. Not even sure if I will even join or not.

>>15268805
How much talt do you have?

>>15268852
213.

>>15268923
Have you bought any tokens yet?

>>15268961
No, my current token is still in effect. I've been playing since early release.

The text in this game sometimes

>>15266099
I'm going to play on novaRO

but I'm going to play alone, don't look for me or try to recruit me to your guild or nothin'.

>>15269440
d amn f*ckn nice... suits my style dudester

>>15244831
>bought a korean account during closed beta
>didn't like the game
>bought starter pack during international release
>didn't like it
Should I give it another try?

>inb4 who quote
ur mum

>>15270060
Yes, you're retarded, but not for the reasons you listed.

>>15266099
Hey I'm playing on that server too

I started not so long ago

I saw someone part of a guild named Gensokyo.
Are they related to /jp/?

>>15272200
Probably not, we don't have a guild yet and I've been seeing them for some time now. They might have someone from /jp/ in them though, you never know.

>>15270153
To be honest I only played there so I can play as a cat and be useless in cat town. Most of the people I played with are already tired with RO at this point in our time.

>tfw mmos are dead

Anyone waiting for the vanilla wow servers?

>play for a month then realize they're shit
>this hole will never be filled again

;_;7

>>15269550
Word up, homeslice.
If "dude" ever leaves my lexicon I want /jp/ to kill me because I would already be dead inside.

How much Talt do you have?
I'm sitting on a pile of 1 Talt.

Why is Talt so important and what's the deal with gems in this game
They don't seem that powerful and fairly expensive to socket your gear
When are they actually worth using

>>15272406
Talts are used to upgrade guild towers. If that isn't your thing talt also cost 5k if you npc it, more if you auction it.

>>15272414
What happens if you upgrade the tower then it gets destroyed by bullies, is all your talt wasted?

>>15272406
>Why is Talt so important
Aside from guild tower use, talt is basically the game's currency right now when doing player trading because silver is untradable.
Other alternatives are Dispeller Scrolls or Alche Potions but most people will want talt.

>>15272439
Upgrades are consistent per guild. Towers last for a week and each costs 100k to build. In short, no.

>>15272406
>what's the deal with gems in this game
You put other gems and items into them so they level up.

>They don't seem that powerful and fairly expensive to socket your gear
They grow in power as they level up.

>When are they actually worth using
When you have good gear. Red (or blue ones when you're a mage) can just be raised to level 4 and stuck in some item you're going to use a while to level with, but anything higher should be saved for good equipment you get later like at 120 or 170. For the most part, they should be used to raise your critical attack rate as a melee character. Mages don't really have much use for them outside of raising magic attack.

They lose a level if you remove them from something so make sure you put them in something you're going to keep for a while. You could also help out a low level alt if you can use team storage with some upgaded, socketed weapon.

Oh yeah, you shouldn't use it in your good equipment until you've upgraded it to your liking (save enough potential to be able to make all the slots), since you might keep failing at upgrading and not get it up that high.

>>15272259
>wow
>>/v/
>>/vg/

is anyone playing in EU

>>15274392
I'm from EU playing on Klai. I'll sacrifice good ping to play with /jp/ any day~

>>15274563
I guess I'll just play in Klai then

>>15275101
Playing from the UK on klai here
My latancy / ping isn't an issue unless the server itself is lagging.
At first I thought it was just my ping that was causing slow reaction time when interacting with objects but then after the last maintenance the delay was completely gone, however over the last few days it's started coming back.
I suspect it has something to do with the servers being clogged up with spammers, bots etc
Maybe if they simply did server restarts every 48 hours it would keep the lag away but that's just my guess.

should I go with quarrel shooter

I want to make a build for pve and pvp

>>15275290
The same thing happened to me , that's why I play on Orsha.

>>15272244
>>15270153
This makes me want to start playing there too..
I haven't tried renewal at all so this will be a new experience for me at least.

I wish I could subscribe jRO..

>>15272244
cute cat dude
>>15276017
It's a good server to start then, just try to have fun

>>15275476
better check your ping, then
at 100+ it's not worth it

Patch notes are up, seems we are getting guild neutrality.
No more bully

>>15278357
Thank God, they are finally doing something.

>>15276065
how do you have fun

>>15278357
Game ruined.

>>15278357
Free for all guild wars sounded kind of fun. I'm a bit disappointed.

I've enjoyed this quest

>>15280407
They'll still exist, just not be forced on every member of every guild who'd rather take it easy.

When they implement world boss welfare, that will be the real problem.

Did vanillaware make this?

>>15280520
It's not THAT full of pointless tits and ass.

>>15280520
If only

Yes, hello!

My name is Shou Toromaru and I want to get into the Gensokyo Guild!

Yes, I made a typo with the name, I know. I can't change it anymore.

>>15280795