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I like to think that, were Seija to succeed, she'd eventually start opposing the very new reign she created and keep doing it ad nauseum until she failed. The thing is that following one's nature must take into account to what point it affects them.
Animals are slaves to their nature, we don't consider a tiger evil for hunting its prey, nor a dog good because it licks it owner.
As far as humans go (ignore some philosophers since that's not the sort of discussion we ought to be having) they're free to go against their nature. In fact, everything we do that is considered good or evil are the acts that go against one's instincts beyond survival and propagation.
Now comes Amanojaku, and you could extend this to Youkai. The biggest problem is that we just can't understand a point of view of a being whose nature is to go against things(I'm borrowing some dude's idea here, but most other sentient things in fiction barely ever go beyond human attitude with a small twist, things beyond our comprehension are left in the dark, like lovecratian gods), I mean, there's no sentinence we can understand beyond our own, so the question as to whether Seija is evil or not, is how strong the Amanojaku nature is, if it's too strong, you'd then argue that her neutral actions are what she did, and to be evil or good would be her geing against her Amanojaku nature. If it's too weak, then it's the opposite, the path she takes is her being too weak-willed to go against her Amanojaku blood and succumbing to it.
To sum it up, I mean to say you can't pinpoint her morality unless you knew how her youkai type works, which we'll never be able to because we can only understand how it's like to be human.

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>>15142047
>Seija did nothing wrong
I agree
Seija thread?

>> No.15142129

>>15142082
Sure, if that's what you want.

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>>15142047
If this is not a pasta then you're doing a pretty good job.

Shame this thread will just turn into cute worship and image dump thread.

>> No.15142399

>>15142047
Seija isn't a human that decided to be "evil", she is an evil spawn and all her acts are by definition pure evil in nature. She has no neutral or "good" state nor is she conscious of the morality of her actions, she was born from evil itself and is the embodiment of it.

If she were to succeed she would lose all purpose in life and would probably vanish as there would no longer be anyone left to make miserable.

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Shut up Seija.

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>>15142400
No brakes on the kiss train!

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Well in the first place, the term morality is used by humans for humans.

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>> No.15142426

If the events of ISC are canon, wouldn't that mean she already succeeded?

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>>15142426
she just avoided prosecution

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>>15142426
She's still on the run and ZUN didn't conclude anything in ISC.
My personal fanending is the Amanojaku Sawa doujin.

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>>15142444
Full circle

>> No.15142453

Seijia exploited someone by lying to them, so that she could cause misery to others, to achieve her own desires.

Wouldn't you say that's taking advantage of others and therefore evil regardless of her youkai type? I'd be interested to see what the Yama would have to say about this...

>> No.15142468

>>15142453
The Yama judges subjects based upon how/if they've fulfilled their predestined role. Seija is safe from negative judgement because of her actions.

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>>15142453
Well officially, her kind is supposed to be detestable and hated so calling her evil is pretty natural. Hell, the entire world hates Sagume so much, it will do exactly the opposite thing she says. Truly the amanojakus are terrifying creatures.

Seija is my favorite 2hu though.

>> No.15144138

Will ZUN bring her back? Do you think so?

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>>15144138
He likes her enough to make an entire game, so I doubt he's done with her. Besides, ISC didn't really have a proper conclusion.

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Reversal

>> No.15147595

>>15142047
tl;dr edition: Seiga is a Trotskyist!

>> No.15147598

>>15147595
Its Seija you fucking dolt.

>> No.15147639

>>15147595
Seija isn't a Trot. She's clearly a Maoist.

>> No.15147680

Seija did nothing wrong

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Why didn't she use her powers during ISC? They seem like cheat powers to me if given a power boost.

>> No.15147945

>>15147708
She probably did, but you didn't notice because you are playing from her perspective.

>> No.15147968

>>15147708
Same reason why DIO didn't use his vampire powers in part 3.

>> No.15147989

>>15147945
That could possibly explain why its possible to no-item clear the bosses.

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>> No.15149371

>>15147639
I think that anon might be suggesting Seija is too hot to trot

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Seija is cute. I don't know if I could ever see her as despicable.

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The Amanojaku are youkai whose sole purpose is to deceive and lead otherwise good-hearted people down dark paths and cause them to commit evil.
Seija will always oppose the natural order of things, and whenever that order shifts she will be against it, alone and hated by all others, with a toothy smile on her face.

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Reversal

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