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>>15105665
I thought she was carrying a Tenga onahole from the thumbnail

Eirin is giving her steroids.

The Reisen I know is not that flat.

Reisen is beautiful.

LOOK OUT SHE'S GOT A GUN!

>>15105665
Why does Reisen what?

>>15105854
>daito
You mean deito, you fucking retard.

>>15105892
Always armed and dangerous bunny girl.
Don't worry though, she's nice.

She's a bit jumpy, but she's a good girl.

>>15106098
She's a filthy traitor and a deserter.

>>15106099
Oh, hush. Let bygones be bygones. All the people it actually matters to don't care anymore anyway.

>>15106103
That's terrifying. Would the point device or whatever still activate if the user just floats away into space?

>>15106109

It doesn't

>>15106113
Terrifying!

>>15106101
Once a traitor always a traitor.

>>15106138
Oh noes, Yorihime caught the traitor.

>>15106141
What does Yorihime's cunny taste like?

>>15106162
Lunar sands

tfw when a lot of people you know have fuck'd a specific girl and you never fuck'd here but you kind of think you could get away with pretending you did in conversation (assuming she's not around)

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I just have to get it off of my chest, I fuck'd Reisin bran once, don't tell he I said that though, she'll just deny it

>>15106189
Her bran?
Her bra? Her brain? Her breakfast cereal?

>>15106138
Whatever, anon. She don't care, they don't care, only you care, and you weren't even there, so who cares what you care?

>>15106197
It's a nickname I gave to her vagina (you'd get it if you saw it) like I said don't tell her I said that, she'd lie and deny it because appearances are everything to that bunny

>>15106138
She more than made up for it by resolving the crisis with Junko. She should be a lunarian hero!

>>15105665
Finish your question

>>15105665
a possible solution as to 'why' could be found in this pre-war Flannigan and Allen hit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVdoZNxtL8k

>>15106113
>>15106109
The Ultramarine Orb Elixir doesn't actually prevent the user from dying, it lets the user see the future. In terms of game mechanics, this means that every time you 'die', the heroine was just seeing a possible future in which they fucked up, and the time you clear each checkpoint is what actually happened. The user would be able to see themselves floating off into space, and thus be able to avoid it just like any other mistake, unless it was somehow completely inevitable.

Of course, Doremy isn't in space to begin with, she's in the Dream World, so that image makes even less sense. Still cute though.

>>15107329
Well, do they see each alternate future up until they die? I'm pretty sure Reisen can survive in space, so if there's a possible future where she floats off into space, how long would she have to watch that? Or is there some sort of mental remote they use? "Geez, okay, I drown in the sea of tranquility, don't need to see the whole thing, let's move on to the next one. Lingchi? What the hell is...oh, OH, oh GOD, nope, no thanks, we'll just avoid that, seen enough, next."
Or do they see until they actually die? Or just until it's clear that this is something they should avoid?

Sorry, I didn't actually play LoLK.

>>15105665
Almost as Flan delicious!

>>15107580
Good point, actually. Of course ZUN didn't elaborate on the finer points of the elixir, but extrapolating from the fact that you can go back to a checkpoint manually, even without dying, I'd say the 'mental remote' sounds about right.

And of course, we say 'die', but you don't actually die in danmaku battles in the first place, so it's really no different.

>>15107700
Well, I did read some of the script, and Junko's talking about how you've died a thousand times and how she's gonna kill the heroine. Shit-talking is the norm, sure, but Junko isn't the sort to give a shit about that, and LoLK is a shade darker than most games. I'd say death's a strong possibility in this one.

Does the elixir wear off?

Normally I think zundraws are fairly amusing and harmless, but not in this case.

I am visibly upset that zun is just SO SHIT at drawing bunny ears on reisens portrait, that is has basically fucked the appearance of her fan art forever more as people try to base off of it.

There is no escape from this hell.

>>15107923
What's wrong with them?

>>15107941
They look fake/unorganic.

>>15107991
Maybe they are! Maybe she cut them off to try to be human, or she lost them in the war, and it's oh so edgy and tragic!
Or not and ZUN just can't draw good. Probably that. And they look fine enough.

>>15108012
>>15107991
It's quite possible that the ears are artificial.

When Reisen came to Earth in SSiB, she remarks on how she changed her appearance to look more like an Earth rabbit; her ears look like Tewi's. Later, we see that the other Moon rabbits have ears that look like Udonge's with the button-like things, and also that their ears almost seem to be attached to their helmets.

Of course, to some extent, that could just be Aki Eda taking creative license, which she did in several places in SSiB. Still, ZUN approved it, so it can't be too off-base.

Considering what we know about the Lunarians' technology and about how the rabbits communicate, it's reasonable to conjecture that the ears are some kind of artificial, detachable antenna; however, it's equally possible that they are real ears, Reisen did some quick cosmetic surgery before coming to Earth, and the button-like things at the base of their ears are some kind of implanted transmitter or whatnot.

In the end, it's one of those little details that's hinted at but never elaborated on, so all you can do is have fun speculating and not take it too seriously.

>>15107897
Junko is supposedly just straight up trying to kill the heroine which is one reason she doesnt care about danmaku patterns

Its tough to tell in touhou because we know these arent life and death battles because of spellcard rules but early stage youkai sometimes threaten to kill/eat the heroine, im pretty sure Yuyuko and Youmu threaten to kill the heroine, and judging by the Mokou fight you "kill" her repeatedly

>>15108105
It's got merit, but Reisen not having real ears is one of those theories that I just don't give the time of day because fucking hell man, no.

>>15108261
Understandable.

One other thing, though - the Moon rabbits don't have tails, but the Earth rabbits do.

We don't know for certain where the Moon rabbits came from or what they are, just that they're a slave race to the Lunarians. It's possible that, unlike the Earth rabbits who are actual youkai rabbits, they're a completely humanoid race who are merely rabbits in name, and have ear-shaped antennae because the Lunarians think it looks cool/appropriate/whatever.

I realize that may sound like a bit of a stretch, but again, we really don't have much to go on in the first place. It seems to me we're supposed to get the impression that the Moon rabbits aren't exactly what they seem, even if it's not really important.

>>15108241
>Junko is supposedly just straight up trying to kill the heroine which is one reason she doesnt care about danmaku patterns
There's also the fact that her bullets's hitboxes are 1:1

>>15108385
I always figured they were native moon rabbits. Like they just live there, and then some oh-so-pure jerks came and enslaved them.

Also, moon rabbits being a slave race really makes it baffling how Reisen's called a traitor and deserter and stuff. She's a slave and she ran away from her masters. In what world is a runaway slave called a traitor?

>>15108640
>In what world is a runaway slave called a traitor?

I think the idea is that she's a traitor to the Lunarian ideal of a moonbunny: a docile servant-cum-pet who follows their masters orders.

I have a feeling that "-cum-pet" is more literal than one would hope on the Moon

>>15108668
That's definitely not the idea I get from all the runaway-shaming.
Rabbits being sex slaves is almost certainly bull, by the way, no matter how good doujin material it makes. Reisen could have maybe been one from that one line in SSiB, but probably not.

>>15108795
>Rabbits being sex slaves is almost certainly bull, by the way, no matter how good doujin material it makes.

You've got a race of extremely powerful gods and humans. They use a race of extremely weak youkai as slaves. Many of which are pretty girls. You think that Lunarian men don't keep a harem of bunnygirls? Touhou just doesn't focus on sexual stuff, doesn't mean it can't happen in the background. Sex slaves are as old as slavery itself.

Hell, Lunarians don't even appear to treat moonbunnies as similar beings. They treat them as subhuman animals.

(I haven't actually read SSiB, mainly because I heard the art and plot sucks. Is it worth reading?)

>>15108853
Sure, sure, but they're Lunarians. They're all pure and enlightened and above it all and stuff. They're essentially super hermits. I could maybe see the Watatsuki's wanting a piece of bunny. cuz they're different, but not the general populace.

I didn't like SSiB.

One of the Lunarians' master plan was to have human males to breed with Lunarian rabbits until they go extincted. Such evil plan.

>>15108640
Just because they're slaves doesn't mean they're abused. In fact, aside from being manual laborers, they're also the Lunar army, so they're trusted with some level of responsibility and all that. It's more like they're the lowest of the low in a rigid class system. Perhaps as far as they're concerned, it's still better than being an Earthling.

It could also be that she's considered a traitor to the rabbits, not the Lunar Capital as a whole, and that she broke the camaraderie of the downtrodden rabbits to go live a luxurious, free life on Earth while leaving them behind.

Sorry, but it's been a long time since I've read SSiB and CiLR; I forgot exactly who calls who a traitor in what context. You're best off going right to the source.

>>15108853
Tell whoever you heard that from to kindly end themselves. The art gets a bit messy, sure, but the story is great, and overall it's quite a fun read.

>>15108913
>Tell whoever you heard that from to kindly end themselves. The art gets a bit messy, sure, but the story is great, and overall it's quite a fun read.

It's just stuff I've heard on /jp/ over my time here. Some people bitching about it apparently having too much action, or how Aki Eda can't draw fight scenes, or how it's too edgy, whatever.

I'll start reading it right now then.

>>15108913
When did I mention abuse? A slave is a slave, and nobody wants to be a slave.
The "traitor to the rabbits" thing is silly too, though a bit more understandable. "Grrr, how dare she do the thing that we would do too if given the chance." Or maybe the other rabbits are fine with their lot?

>>15108947
It gets pretty polarizing reactions. I didn't like it, other people did. Go for it.
It's definitely the worst manga, though. Not gonna back down on that.

>>15108983
>he "traitor to the rabbits" thing is silly too, though a bit more understandable. "Grrr, how dare she do the thing that we would do too if given the chance." Or maybe the other rabbits are fine with their lot?

Seiran hated being a reconnaissance bunny. Ringo wants to stay on Earth just for the food even though she's well-paid and has a simple paper-pusher job. I think the other rabbits would like to leave.

Honestly, the way that ZUN and the setting just shits all over the rabbits is ridiculous. Reisen is a miserable deserter under the tutelage of a fucking psycho doctor who treats her like complete shit, Seiran is overworked and underpaid, Ringo is willing to defect for fucking FOOD, and the bunnies in general are treated as pathetic weaklings who barely matter. Pisses me off.

>>15109008
>Seiran hated being a reconnaissance bunny. Ringo wants to stay on Earth just for the food even though she's well-paid and has a simple paper-pusher job. I think the other rabbits would like to leave.
Well, there you go.

>Reisen is a miserable deserter under the tutelage of a fucking psycho doctor who treats her like complete shit
How much of that is fanon, though? She doesn't seem miserable, I don't see much deserter stuff, Eirin's not really some sadistic asshole, etc.
The other two are fair. We've definitely established that most Lunarians aren't good folk.

>>15109008
Foods?

>>15109032
That wasn't the right picture at all.

>>15108879
Post more titty Reisen.

>>15108913
>>15108994

Just finished SSiB.

Honestly, I'm impressed that Yukari engineered all this bullshit just to steal some shit from the Watatsukis' house.

I also see what people mean when they call Yorihime a mary sue now. Kinda wish the heroines had actually done something instead of just get their asses beat though.

>>15109534
What a sensible person.

>>15108947
>how Aki Eda can't draw fight scenes
Well, that's understandable, though I didn't mind too much.
>how it's too edgy
Are you kidding? The whole plot is about Yukari getting petty revenge on the Lunarians by stealing some of their booze, under the cover of Remi getting another wild scheme in her head and wanting to build a moon rocket out of strong arms. It's totally ridiculous. There are moments of serious characterization too, but to call anything in Touhou 'edgy' is nonsense.
>apparently having too much action
I don't know what to say. It baffles me that this is even a complaint people have.

>>15108994
No no, EaLND was the worst by far. Sangetsusei only got better with time, and by the second installment it was good, but the early chapters were terrible.

>>15106555
I want a tiny Reisen.

>>15109036
Food!

What's Reisen's relationship with the new bunnies?

>>15105665
Is this the rabbit?

>>15110474
From what I can gather it's an uneasy relationship, but at the very least they can sympathize with one another because of power/position.

Doing mating press training with Tewi.

>>15109008
Maybe its because THEY ARE pathetic weaklings who barely matter. The most threatening of all the rabbits introduced is Reisen, and she's a deserting coward.

>>15110442

>>15110942
Good god, my heart can't take it.

>>15110442
Rereleased Fumo Reisen just came ou and the next release wave will have no jacxket Reisen.

>>15111011
Reisen's almost always great, but significantly less so without her snappy jacket.

>>15111011
That's a cool fumo, meng.

>>15112203
She makes it all look good, even her Forbidden Scrollery getup.

>>15112891
Oh. for sure. Summer uniform's great, medicine man disguise is great. It's just that none of them come close to that blazer.

Best clothes. Her blazer is pretty much her Lunar Army uniform. She doesn't need to wear it anymore.

Why is she so plain? Why is it so great?

Reisen?

>>15113513
There's such a thing as over-designing a character.

>>15113513
She's plain and sane. She's Gensokyo's straight man, the girl next door, and we all love her for it.
I wonder if she's got any fans in the village? I guess she's been in disguise for her whole medicine selling carrier, but she's still plenty attractive in that guise, and if anyone's even half as perceptive as Marisa they've probably already figured her out.

>>15108947
>>15109811
>how Aki Eda can't draw fight scenes
>apparently having too much action

I think the complaint about SSiB having too much action is usually in the context of Aki Eda being the one drawing it. I've never seen it otherwise. In fact I've seen many more people say they want more action in the manga.

Whenever a Playboy magazine floats through the barrier, Reisen makes absolutely sure it never reaches Eientei. She knows that If the princess finds out that these outfits are a thing, she'll never get to wear anything else.

>>15114473
So do I but ZUN just wants to make endless SoL, oh well.

My ultimate dream 2hu manga that follows an incident like the ones in the games, just with a lot more detail than the shmups allow for. Touhou is a series about aerial combat at its core and I think it's a shame that we only get to see that combat through the lens of the games.

>>15115026
I would like that, but I don't really mind not having one. Especially after SSiB showed how it could go wrong. Games for the action, manga for worldbuilding and slice-of-life.

Forbidden Scrollery almost strikes a good balance, though. I actually think Harukawa could be up to it if she was ever asked to draw more action.