/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Weapon upgrades get really expensive as you go along the chain.

Here's a super important tip on saving money when upgrading weapons - +1 or higher weapons increases the success rate of the weapon upgrade by a lot. It's like the difference between 23% chance to get to +2 using a +0 weapon as material or being able to do it all at 100% chance until +4 or +5 using nothing but +1 weapons. Because of this, instead of throwing +0 weapons at something, combine them with other +0 weapons to get a +1 to use as material. At +9, it's the difference between 3000 gold per attempt (and either 1% or even 0% chance with +0 weapons), or using 300 gold at 28% chance to bring a +0 weapon to +1 using another +0 weapon as a base, so that you can at least get that 56% chance.

Why is she dressed as a nun when she's not a virgin?

>>14978651
She is, at least until you get her to 100% affection.

What does Shiho do?

>>14978765
She's basically a witch that switches to healing during skill use

>>14978765
Has a cute butt and has great healing burst.

>>14978770
>>14978774
She doesn't sound that great then.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28492997
Cool subjugation

>>14978784
On skill awakening she switches entirely until next skill use. Against enemies like the last majin who counter all damage with true damage, being able to turn off her damage output can be really helpful

>>14978774
The cutest butt.

>>14978784
Get out, she's an excellent hybrid. Mincosts as cheap as Alissa, ready to heal in 10 seconds at max skill, and has a higher attack stat and faster attack speed than healers (though slower than witches).

Of course, it comes at the cost of having reduced range.

>>14978793
You're being tricked by her butt.

>>14978793
Shiho attacks faster than witches on awakening.

>>14978828
I thought comments on the Wiki said otherwise, but I haven't made a comparison myself.

I did hear Shiho goes from something like "six attacks for every witch's seventh" to "20 attacks later for the witch to lap her", so it's probably safe to say that she comes close or equals a witch's speed post-AW.

>>14978828
>>14978847
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%B9%B6%B7%E2%C2%AE%C5%D9

FKG when

Every time I do spirit rescue H I come out disappointed and wonder why I bothered wasting stamina and charisma on it. It has a 90% chance to drop nothing but the guaranteed gold spirit and nothing else.

>>14978912
I recently got Cellia and I'm looking forward to the silvers and fragmented disappointment from Spirit E.

Base scramble 2 is hard.

>>14979175
First one was tougher imo.

>>14978865
Shooping boobs and censoring hilts is a hard work, anon.

There's tons of porn actresses with small chests

How bad is Idol Wars Z? I wanna put my virtual dick in some aidoru, but I don't know what kind of mobage hell awaits.

Seeing the banner every time I go to Aigis is tempting me.

>>14979306
Don't forget shrinking faces, too.

>>14979175
>>14979250
I have two accounts and BS1 was harder for one of them while BS2 was easy, and it was the exact opposite for the other account.

>>14979324
not in Australia

>>14979380
Judging by videos it's kind of a Cinderella Girls clone.Yet it's relatively popular(and even reaches top 3 on R-18 version) for some reason.

>>14979605
Cinderella Girls is pretty not-fun. But Iunno, maybe a sex payoff would make it more tolerable.

I guess I'll give it a shot later. Hopefully it's not so hard to level/sex girls that I drop it like LoV or something.

At least I got a 5* in this game.

>>14979380
The game has almost no gameplay and is kind of P2W, but they give tickets for special gachas like ones that have 10-50% to get SR or SSR, and two times they did a login bonus campaign that give you an SSR and the necessary items to rank up (in the game is called awakening) to a UR

About the sex scenes, each idol have two and divided into three parts (the first two parts are one scene and the third is the second). You got the first part after getting the idol, the second part is after you level the card at max level (if I remember correctly) and the third one is after you awake the card.

For awakening a card you need items and usually you got them in some of the daily stages (in game called quests) and sometimes in login bonuses.

>>14978860
That table is very outdated, Mikos hit faster since the same patch their SA was implemented, also this doesn't count the first speed up update they gave to the pirates, so maybe its been abandoned around 6 months ago.

Shiho is my daughter-wife.

So there are 3 new Aigis doujins on sadpanda.

I'll skip the first one for now.

The second doujin is a short one featuring Prince x Liddy (Platinum Pegasus Rider). The Black Rarity Pegasus Rider is there as well, but nothing happens with her.

[Reverse Noise (Yamu)] Midnight Pegasus (Sennen Sensou Aigis) [2015-11]

http://exhentai.org/g/917406/4d13310c97/

The third doujin is about Kanon (Platinum Cannoneer loli) getting raped by those paralyzing tentacle monsters from recent events and goblins. After which is some random shit that unless you can read moon you will not know. Also, ignore the picture of Nanaly wrapped in tentacles on the cover. She doesn't even appear in the doujin outside that cover.

[DiGi-Ai] Ouji Blueman 3 (Sennen Sensou Aigis)

http://exhentai.org/g/917444/f983e52552/

The first doujin added, and the last one I'll introduce is one that I'm positive will start a shit storm, so I'd like to avoid mentioning it,but it'll happen sooner or later so why the fuck not.

Introducing our favorite non-existent silver ninja Kagerou in her very own doujin! Watch as her tits clearly are not small enough to be loli and watch as she's tied up reminiscent to her 100% affectio scene!

(Waru no desu… Ouji) [Soronosanchi (Sorono)] Kagerou 100+ (Sennen Sensou Aigis)

http://exhentai.org/g/917253/ded273c68a/

>>14979906
At least it's not Nanaly or Sybilla again.

>>14979906
> I'm positive will start a shit storm
>Doujin about Kagerou

Why should be there a shitstorm?

>>14979885
>Mikos hit faster since the same patch their SA was implemented
First time I hear about this. I went to check Petite's post with shaman SA and it doesn't say anything about that. Do you have a source?

http://wikiwiki.jp/aigiszuki/?%B9%B6%B7%E2%C2%AE%C5%D9
This one has updated pirate speed.

>>14979965
It's basically rubbing salt in the wound. Nutaku is still being Nutaku and still keeping units from us that have no reason to be withheld (Kagerou, Yurina) and now doujins of the units they're withholding for whatever reason are appearing on sadpanda.

At least, I thought it'd be a shitstorm, but if it's not than that works too.

>>14980016
Why on earth would you think that Dev Tea and completely unrelated doujin artists would have any impact on each other? Only a moron would think up a shitstorm over that.

>>14980025
Because I'm a giant faggot, of course.

>>14980016
I don't see a point and >>14980025
explained my point already so.. eh.

>>14980016
While Kagerou is withheld for no reason, I wouldn't say Yurina is. Yurinas event simply hasn't happened yet and to be honest I wouldn't want it at this stage.
If it showed up next tuesday I would be pissed BUT if a further ahead event like Ritas showed up and then Yurinas event showed up during "break week" I'd be fine with it.
If they're gonna give us events with a break they may as well give good ones and not irrelevent events.

>>14980041
Yurina will be the next event, deal with it.

>>14980041
Wanting for anything to appear on "break week" is probably asking for too much, but I get the point.

Speaking of, Rita's was a drop event? I'd rather have a star event to be next imo.

I DID IT I FINALLY ROLLED MY SOLDIER WAIFU! Now I can cheese any early game with zenobia all I want.

>>14980063
I wish I got altia too. She makes my dick do funny things.

>>14980059
I still BELIEVE in an Easter Gold Rush! Gellius Christ will not disappoint me!

>>14979842
Nice, I was trying to get her with the gold post and a few stone draws but I only got a bunch of 3* dupes instead.

>>14980063
Damn son. Congratulations. As lovely as Zenobia is I would still take Jerome instead.
I only have Katie and Julian hahah...sigh

This new spotlight system in Kanpani has made me spend once again a bit of time on it. I never used to get black envelopes and now I'm getting at least one every week even if the 5* avoid me.

How are you guys faring? I still wish I could nab Sion.

>>14980153

I've gotten (or already had) every 4/5* spotlight unit thus far (no stones used). While this influx of new characters is nice, I really want some more CWs to aim for. I've 'run out' of significant CWs so when this event is over I'll be making unnecessary 3* CWs. These spotlight weeks are a frugal way to maintain interest and I'll acknowledge it's effective.

>>14980231
And here I thought I was lucky for getting Violetta. You got the two 5*... color me jealous.

>>14980231
I hope to see Holly and/or Rose in one of these spotlights.

Speaking of Kanpani, where is the White Day event that we would have gotten after Valentines one?

>>14980735
Nutaku or DMM?
Because on Nutaku they are following the original release and this event comes right after Valentine.

>>14980625

Already have Holly with +3 CW. Don't have Rose or Siegrid.

>>14983094

They even went as far as making sure the events run roughly on the same dates too - we got no events at the start of the game until Christmas was upon us.

>>14983426
I don't have a single +3 yet, my luck is just that bad.

>>14983094
There was definitely a drop rate increase campaign and a mini white day event in between Valentine's and the rookie events.

White day isn't really a thing in the west and this is nutaku so I don't expect rate increase campaigns at all.

>>14983531
On DMM during the very first year? I kinda doubt honestly.

>>14983624
They keep track of event dates on the JP wiki so there's no reason to doubt it. It's true.

>>14983527

The last few weeks I've been completely neglecting EXP in favour of farming class hammers. The Valentine forges have been a big help for Friday crafting sessions.

What a tease, I throw my last envelope after the daily still trying to get Sion and I see a black new envelope! Aselia... well, at least I get to do her training quests for 3 stones.

>>14983669
Is there a place where i can see all the events? Now i'm curious to see wich events we skipped.

FKG:

> Want drunken waifu
> Throw 50 stones at start of event - fail
> Throw 50 stones towards end of event
> Golden flowerpot!
> Pic related

I had a mass of red EXP fodder stockpiled too. Time to nurture a drunkard.

>>14983811
>You will never get the chance to burn 100 free stones on Nutaku

>>14983832
That remains to be seen. FKG devs are FKG devs and Nutaku is just a front company that exists to censor shit for no reason, so it's not like they decide who gets what amount of stones.

Still, congrats to >>14983811. I wish I had the same luck with Mimosa, but rainbows are rainbows after all.

>>14983832

I'd say the chances are fairly good I'll get another 100 free stones by the time FKG comes out on Nutaku.

>>14983851
>FKG devs are FKG devs
>Nutaku players get the same treatment as DMM

I want to believe... should be out the April 8th if i recall correctly.
That pre-registration gift and the website completely different from the standard Nutkau crap makes me believe that we can get something good this time.

>>14983862
Maybe

>>14983929
Nah, there is no hope anon.

>>14983832
>>14983851
>>14983929
Western localizations are generally more stingy with their premium currency(and gacha rates sometimes) than the original japanese titles for some reason.

I've played enough mobages to see that. I remember that one game where originally there was a gacha campaign where first 3 pulls would be guaranteed 5* 'to commemorate the release and give new players a headstart'.
When the game got localized it got nothing of a sort.

I thought Odawara Castle was pretty good, but Fukuchiyama is even more ridiculous, mostly from her bonuses when fully upgraded. The +20% ATK at level 27 with a +55 attack rifle raises her final attack so much that she can one-shot everything in the EXP Girls Daily, on Hard Mode. With that +20 range she literally owns that particular side of the map.

For reference, Odawara's bonuses when fully maxed is +20% HP and Defence - it might not sound useful but if she's in a position where she can be attacked, Odawara can tank it hard while putting out the firepower typical of rifle users.

>>14984222
Nutaku Kanpani seems to have better rate than DMM version with these spotlight rate up.

>>14984277
Well I've been playing the game for three months straight since release before dropping it and I never got a black envelope aside from the starting roll. Even with mailboxes. It's either shitluck or rates in Kanpani are initially shitty and these spotlights are there to help it.

>>14984328
Kanpani Girls does have the infamy of being horribly hard to get girls above 2 stars. If you manage to get several 5 star girls, you should probably try playing the lottery.

Though part of it might just have to do with the fact that there's no regular gacha and all you can do is pray some girl drops during quests, spend your hard earned disappointment stones whenever you're blessed with a Gold Mailbox or go through the Battlefield every day and buy some disappointment letters, all of which take a ton of time.

>>14984328
My luck is shit like... really bad, but these spotlight on Nutaku Kanpani are real.

>>14984382
You have more 5* than I ever get in DMM server after 1 year playing.

>>14984382
Holy shit, on JP Kanpani you couldn't get that many 5* even if you sold both kidneys. Looks like Kanpani devs are the one team that gives a shit about Nutaku.

I hope FKG will be the same.

>>14984392
>I hope FKG will be the same.
I hope so.

>>14984382
How much did you spend ?

>>14984405
0, everything got from daily or fairy envelope.

>>14984392
Remind me of that nico vid where one guy spent 50k yen on gems + gold post on Christmas rate up and he didn't get a single 5*.
It made me cringed.

>>14984382
Holy. Mine just needs a push to go from getting all non 5* in the spotlight. All in all, as I said, this spotlight has been expanding my catalog and rekindling my interest in the game.

I actually wonder if they are making money out of it. The spotlight and the shop made me worry... yet with those prices and rates even if they are pretty cool devs I can't see value on splurging a little.

>>14984408
Seriously ? That's awesome luck then. I never missed a daily roll and the only 5* i have is Judita.

>>14984426
All my luck is in these draws probably, spent 3 months trying to get Ann CQ recipe without luck and 2 months trying to get a single Asa.
Also i haven't got a single +3 yet at side for events.
I guess that's some kind of balance.

Don't believe the fairy's lies.

>>14984454
Must be one of Aigis' cousins

I finally managed to encounter one mimic on the training grounds out of... 35 intermediate and 30 hard runs. Dropped a silver mailbox. I wouldn't have minded the exp ticket.

>>14984454
There will be time when you feel nothing even with 3 black envelopes.

>>14984409
That month ruined a lot of hopes of dreams; I'm reminded of Yukisan (artist of Kristin, Chika and particularly Nona who was the iOS release highlight at the time) who spent 90k yen getting only one 5*, raged on Twitter, deleted the account, and a month later set it back up as strictly work-related only.

>>14984523
I hope this new limited quest is their attempt to make it easier for farming specific girls, since the current drop rate for story quests is just unbelievable bad.

>>14983531
>>14983624
>>14983669
But I heard the White Day event was supposed to let us craft a special ring accessory unique to that event?

>>14984572
It looks like this event wasn't really interesting. Maybe they thought it wasn't worth the trouble ?
Or perhaps the devs don't care about us anymore and the game is dying.

>>14983929
Let's be real. FKG can be as generous as Jesus Christ turning his body to bread and blood to wine for us.
But none of that is gonna change the fact that Nutaku will enforce their shitty censorship guidelines down FKG dev's throat. They will have no choice but to comply if they want their game on Nutaku's portal.

The fact that no one will bother raising a fuss about it to Nutaku prelaunch isn't helping either. Everyone's either ignorant about Nutaku's shitty censorship, or are willing to sit back, wait to "see what they do first" and placing way too much hope on JPN devs, like the good fucking dogs they are.

No R-18 Nutaku game has released without some censorship, and FKG will be no different. Considering the content FKG has, it will probably be one of the more worst we've seen in awhile

My predictions are, they will have to "postpone" events and girl releases of loli chars for an undefined future date (ie several months). That seems to be the common case scenario now.

>>14984506
I have 3 extra Annas laying around because I already have two other Warriors I'm using and I would need to grind her a ton to unlock the other awakening slots.

Her personal weapon does seem pretty nice, though, especially considering she's a 3* character and is given as a story reward. I remember that there was a ton of animosity on the Japanese wiki when Sigrid finally got her weapon and the +3 skill was an unnecessarily powerful single-target attack so everyone stuck to christmas hammers, although the developers probably did it on purpose because it seems to be really good against the Hellhound.

>>14984610
At this point i can get over some light censorship, at least not like Osawari used to be, that was freaking ridicolous.

>>14984419
cKonstantine from Nutaku mentioned how they are postponing Kanpani's spring festival event which is supposed to come after the current training one.

Considering how silent Kanpani is(was) for awhile, I have a feeliing Kanpani isn't making as much money nowadays. The introduction of that retarded Gem shop which isn't a thing in JPN Kanpani is sort of a sign.

The spotlights are probably just there to keep players from forgetting about the game. You could say that the JP devs (assuming all of this was their decision) are being unusually kind to the western community. But I'm more cynical, and have a feeling they are being more "meh whatever" with the western community by throwing us random givaways and maybe making a few extra bucks. They may be basically treating us as a side project.

I think if they really cared they would be at least updating us with a little bit of new content now and then, like more character quests. We could at least get the same interesting campaigns

>>14984673
No it probably wasn't cKonstantine, but it was someone from the KG chat room. Maybe Ghost.

>>14983929
Where did April 8 come from? Nutaku releases are traditionally on Tuesdays.

>>14984626
> assuming it'll be light
> accepting any censorship at all

How's it feel to be part of the problem?

>>14984673
Most JP devs treat the West in general as a side project.

Hell, most mainstream devs still view Western markets as a non-viable thing despite multiple Western releases outselling Japanese releases.

Sadly Japan is unbelievably insular. It doesn't help that most of what they see in our media is SJW bullshit, either.

>>14984699
>expecting any game at this point to have no censorship whatsoever

How's it feel to be unrealistically idealistic?

>>14983785
http://wikiwiki.jp/kanpani/?%B4%FC%B4%D6%B8%C2%C4%EA%A5%A4%A5%D9%A5%F3%A5%C8

>>14984572
It was.

http://wikiwiki.jp/kanpani/?%A5%A2%A5%AF%A5%BB%A5%B5%A5%EA#b2d4de30

The ring's pretty solid. +90 defense/magic defense, +30 evasion, and +50 crit at +4, along with charm protection at all levels.

>>14984611
Anna CW +3 is nice, since it's a 3 hit attack, which give more chance for landing a crit on tough targets.
Siegrid seems to be designed specially for large bosses with her leader strategy and her CW, while the +3 CW skill is completely overkill on normal quests, it's one of the only few thing that can deal major damage on high level Hellhound with crit and class buff.

>>14984710
Considering the releases I can get from mangagamer and fakku I wouldn't say it's idealistic to expect a localization company to not be shit.

But considering everything nutaku has done so far it definitely is unrealistic.

>>14984710
Hey buddy, I whine and complain about it as much and as obnoxiously as I can, so I can keep people aware of the bullshit and make anyone who doesn't know about the bullshit aware of the bullshit being pulled.

The instant people stop talking about the bullshit that companies like Nutaku do, we are letting them get away with it, and they have basically won.

No we won't get them to change overnight. No fucking company changes the way they do shit overnight. But we sure as hell should make them keep it at the back of their mind, instead of letting them wait it out as we quiet ourselves as we give them our money.

Nothing changes if people keep quiet. Its when we constantly talk about the bullshit do we raise awareness of the problems and foster more discussion.

Or you know, we can just learn japanese like our superior nippon overlords want us to.

>>14984611
>I remember that there was a ton of animosity on the Japanese wiki when Sigrid finally got her weapon and the +3 skill was an unnecessarily powerful single-target attack so everyone stuck to christmas hammers
Wait, what was the problem? She already 'had' her skill for a year which was an extremely strong single target attack, though you shouldn't trust an npc's damage.

>>14984783
Does FAKKU even do loli? Well, they're irrelevant in my eyes at this point.

As for MG, I bought ImoPara and Sweet Sweat in Summer, and I hope they localize more loli stuff.

>>14984790
No shit, but there's no point in bitching to people who complain about censorship, yet accept that it'll be there regardless. Acting like they're still part of the problem makes it sound like you're an unrealistic extremist.

>>14984814
It's not like they're releasing Comic-Lo or anything, and they aren't going out of their way for any loli tanks yet. The loli characters that are in their magazine releases don't have any changes though.

>>14984800
They probably expected an upgrade like Rose's skill at +3, compare to her NPC/Boss state. It also wasn't very visually impressive.

>>14984800
People expected a 5* character to get something more useful, with complaints over Warriors having low accuracy, her +2 only having Force Impact (a piddly x1.6 multiplier, so if you weren't lucky you would never get anything decent out of it) and generally comparing her CW to other CWs that hit multiple enemies or had useful effects. I think it was basically just that people were expecting something borderline or even just plain overpowered considering she's one of the most popular characters.

This was before the first raid boss event happened, mind you, and that is where she really shines. Some eyebrows might still be raised due to Sion recently getting her ridiculously powerful +3 weapon, but now she has her niche.

>>14984783
>>14984864
Napata's Love-Ridden tankoubon on Fakku cut out a end-of-book bonus chapter featuring loli.

But on the other hand, Napata's recent Kairakuten chapters featuring loli got released on Fakku.

So who fucking knows?

>>14984876
M-maybe they'll make up for it when they release her character armor!

Dat ass has got to provide some sort of special protection. Maybe a charm counterattack.

>>14984877
Honestly I don't know if that's true. From a quick check right now they look to have all the releases the JP tank had.

There were some people that thought a story called Holiday was part of that tank since it was a continuation of one of the stories, but it was released after that tank on the JP side. It wasn't a loli chapter either.

>>14984895
>character armor
I actually want to know how her front looks like.

>>14984895
I'd be pretty okay with a gimmick armor that gives little to no protection but gives a high boost to her attack power, effectively making her a total glass cannon. Would go well with her pure damage focused weapon.

>>14984814
They did that Bosshi's XXX MiX book uncensored and it's like 90% loli. Only one story in it isn't.

>>14984932
That would make her useless in large boss, where you need her overkill damage most, she would be chewed before she can do any damage.

>>14984910
>>14984934
Had to dig up a website hosting it online cause I'm not at my desktop right now, but it was probably a special melonbooks thing only instead of possible censorship;

readhentaimanga.com/lovely-lovers-love-melonbooks-extra-toranoana/1/219

Beginning at this page (219) and onwards, the loli prequel version of the "Promise" story.

>>14984865
Eh, Sacred -> Seraph is just a damage boost. Plus that's a bit different where Sacred was there from the start and grouped together with all the other fighter skills.

>>14984876
So they were just expecting a new skill instead of her 10-7 one?

Christ, what does it take to get the Hammer to actually drop. It's the last thing I need to get the second recipe so I can see if any of the weapons are actually fucking worth it.

>>14984979
Don't bother with intermediate if you are still there. I didn't get any and when I switched to Hard I got several fast. And it's not like hard requires lvl 75 like they say.

>>14984610
Well, Dev Tea just decided to remove all loli characters (plus some extras) forever instead of letting Nutaku shit on them. FKG devs seem to love their game even more than Dev Tea, so I wouldn't be surprised if they went the same way, which would be hilarious because the retards who still play the EN version at this state would be missing the best event girls in Lavender and Hypericum (to put things in perspective, you flat-out can't clear the ultimate maps without Lavender, unless you fancy rolling 10+ rainbows at 0.5% chances).

I'm hoping that FKG won't have censors, since its devs are really concerned with player feedback (but it's uncertain whether they'll even see the EN feedback, so it's useful to send them a note) and have a lot of leverage room due to being a top-selling game on DMM. But if it does, then sit back and watch the fireworks.

>>14984951
Yeah, that chapter was only available if you bought the tank from melonbooks. So I'd say this is more of a not having a publishing deal with melonbooks rather than a censorship thing. Ideally they would be able to include all the bonus material though.

Damn, so I was curious about Lavender since I haven't played FKG yet and... there is already a wiki going on. That was fast. I just hope they don't butcher it really, seem to be plenty of passionate fans around.

>>14985159
Do you like yandere?

How many h-scenes do the flower knights get? 1 or 2?

>>14985178
1

>>14985092
Aren't lolis like half the girls in FKG?

I always got the impression from screenshots that the FKG devs loved their lolis.

>>14985159
That wiki is actually for the JP version, though. As for Lavender, it's less that she's overwhelmingly powerful (though she's pretty good, event girls are generally a tad worse than gacha golds but she's easily on par with/stronger than most) and more that her abilities are perfect for handling the only hard portion of the game. 3x recovery from panels is absolutely invaluable for ultimate maps, and her 20% solar drive boost/hit-all-targets skill are also solid because you get free solar drives and 3-enemy clusters in these.

>>14985178
One each, at 100% affection.

>>14985194
>>14985179
That sucks, but I guess thats how most of mobage are
I hope they get more non-h scenes then

>>14985169
>Loli yandere
Damn i want her so bad. I can't wait for this game to come out.

>>14985206
Each of them have their own character story quests, then main story quests, event quests, and regional specific flowers quests.
Plenty of stuff to read if you are into that.

>>14985187
The game isn't all-loli but there are easily over 25, with more to come. FKG devs actually asked people what kind of character they'd like to see in their Nico stream and got an overwhelming demand for lolis, and in response they've been making FKG into a loli paradise during the past few months.

It can't be stressed enough how much these guys respect their audience, FKG probably got more user comfort updates than the other 9 top-ranking DMM games combined between service start and now. I wonder who will win out for the EN version, FKG devs' user-friendly approach and Nutaku's money-grabbing and utter disregard for its audience and games.

>>14985187
The game isn't all-loli but there are easily over 25, with more to come. FKG devs actually asked people what kind of character they'd like to see in their Nico stream and got an overwhelming demand for lolis, and in response they've been making FKG into a loli paradise during the past few months.

It can't be stressed enough how much these guys respect their audience, FKG probably got more user comfort updates than the other 9 top-ranking DMM games combined between service start and now. I wonder who will win out for the EN version, between FKG devs' user-friendly approach and Nutaku's money-grabbing and utter disregard for its audience and games.

>>14985220
>>14985226
dat "between"

At side for jokes, i'm so curious to see how this is going to end, Aigis 2.0? I hope not.

What would be the first event on FKG? Should we save the stones for it?

>>14985263
Lavender was the first event in FKG.
If they follow DMM schedule, you can tell which direction they will go with their very first event.

>>14985272
Wait the loli yandere was the very first event?
>you can tell which direction they will go with their very first event
For sure.

>>14985092
So how do you play the jp version of FKG without a vpn to not be a retard as you kindly put it?

>>14985263
Events on FKG never need stones to max. In most of the "collect items, trade for stuff" events, you don't even need to be able to farm the high level maps. You can max out the event unit for free if you login once or twice a day to farm the lowest level maps.

>>14985280
Go to the R-18 website and play.

As long as you don't live in some shithole that bans the site, you're all clear.

>>14985272
So the unit you guys say is so important is the very first one? Damn, how bad will trying to get her be? And maxing her if it goes like Aigis?

>>14985286
Never mind, >>14985283 answered already. Good to know I stand a chance then, if she comes that is.

>>14985263
Unlike Aigis, you don't need game currency to finish events in FKG. I have every event girl in the game maxed (though the three first girls needed revival support) and never used flower stones for anything other than rolling the gacha.

The first event girls are Lavender, Edelweiss and Yamayuri, which are exceptionally strong and should not be missed out on. It is notable that Lavender and Edelweiss events involve medal collection (analogous to star trials in Aigis) and their final maps are quite difficult since you're just beginning the game at that point, so it may be advisable to drop a few flower stones into fairy dailies (Wednesday/Sunday) and get an early power boost. Getting flower stones is not a big problem anyway, even for free players, since you get at least 16 every two weeks from events and possibly more from campaigns (which are pretty much non-stop on DMM, but we'll see on the EN version).

But even if you miss out on maxing them, you still get an extra skill/slot flower on their revivals, so you can get two maxed copies if you had them at 3 slots beforehand.

>>14985280
R-18 version doesn't need VPN.
>>14985279
Yes, they gave people a yandere loli for free after the game had opened for a few days.

>>14985288
>>14985286
It depends on which version of the event they will use. The first few events required you to perfect clear the maps for top rewards, but recently. for all the reprints and new events they switched to the more newbies friendly ones, like collecting drops, hitting/leeching raid boss.

>>14985206

Every 2 weeks, new event brings in a group of 4~5 new girls of which 1~2 will be free. This group gets a total of 8 short scenes of group interaction (1 per event map). Each girl gets 3 character quest scenes. Just their voiced lines tell hints of a story too. In addition, during events like valentine's, every girl gets extra lines if you bestow attention on them.

For a 'core cast', they get additional scenes in the story maps. An 'auxiliary cast' get extra scenes in the daily region-specific maps.

All this FKG talk is making me eager to play it. Was April 8th the confirmed date or just wishful thinking?

>>14985291
Well, you did need to wait two weeks for the event to end before you got her.

But her scene is rape-play, she gets suspicious and checks on you if you set her as your secretary and leave the screen on too long without doing anything, and you get to see her call other girls "female pests" and try to get them killed in her revival event. If you like loli and/or yandere, she's pretty much perfect.

Let's hope that she won't be removed or butchered in the EN version.

>>14985169
I want this. And I'm sure that I'm not going to get it. Or that I'll get it with some really ugly changes.

Although I still believe on a Gold rush, chances are it's going to be Rita tomorrow. And if memory serves right that means subjugation... it's not gonna happen, right guys?

>>14985464
Well, there's a silver lining to it. FKG devs mentioned the possibility of second revivals for early units (but were unsure how to go around it) so you'll eventually be able to get Lavender in the JP version, and even if you can't read Japanese, the game comes with an album that lets you see the story for every event so you can just make an account on Nutaku to read character interactions. If EN FKG turns out to have Nutaku's trademark awful censorship, switching to JP will be pretty easy.

Speaking of re-revivals, I hope they will talk about these, the potential "awakening" and Nutaku's version in their upcoming stream, alongside the new girls in the works.

Remind me please when KamiPro is supposed to launch? Was it 28 or 30? The usual preview page now shows 'undergoing maintenance'.

>>14986025
30th.

I've worked out how to get around 14500 from the seiken manifestia event on 中級, maxing it should be pretty easy.

For Aigis, is モルディペットメイジ any good for a mage? All I have for mages are bishops.

>>14987131
She's good, but there's nothing wrong with bishops, all 3 event bishops work great.

>>14987167
I don't have any of the event bishops. Just using Marius and Sharon. I'm not sure if I need more firepower.

>>14987254
Marius packs a lot of power, certainly nothing wrong with him. Moldevort could be a good replacement for Sharon though.

>>14987131
Moldevort? Treat her as a Parace that can be awakened. She's pretty solid.

>>14987446
She makes me pretty solid.

>>14978264
This picture makes my heart go dokidoki.

Feng shui skill awakenings are kinda strange, Pipin basically becomes an archer for 15 seconds, Kururu loses power but gets 2/3rds the duration on half the CD, and heals all your allies when you use it like Farune, Marr gets a super strong version of her skill but after the first time you use it it downgrades to the regular version, Mia gets a weaker version of Chydis's skill awakening at a lower CD.

>>14987887
I'm able to AW Pippin and was about to do it blindly. Is she worth the AW?

>>14987916
AW — yes, all fenshui are worthy of AW, one extra unit is great.
Skill AW — not really.

>>14987930
Don't forget the 20% extra map effect reduction

>>14987131
>モルディベート
>Moldevort
I understand the pun, but Voldemort is pronounced nothing like that. How do you get "vort" (with a silent t, no less) from ベート, anyway?

I'd go with Mordibeth or something, but Moldevort does have an advantage in that we could call her Moldy.

So, a male Platinum Mage by the name of Parry Hotter when?

>>14988064
His Japanese name is ヴォルデモート, citing the english pronunciation here is not a good way to make an argument.

>>14988082
If you want an actual Harry Potter parody, go read the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, where he's the Antichrist, shoots lightning from his dick, and is killed by Mary Poppins. That's what happens when you apply Super Robot Wars principles to English fiction.

>>14988082
It's actually the French pronunciation, and in any case that still doesn't explain something like "bett" becoming "vort".

>>14988107
I think I see what you're saying, but that's what happens when puns get translated in and out of different languages.

>>14988082
We'll need to exhaust the other necromancers, dark mages and other raise-dudes-from-death people first.

Fandall Rlagg, Thang Sung, Werbert Hest, Lilygori Gasputin, Tel'Khuzad when?

>>14988184
Just start an anime series called "My Dark Lord can't be this cute!"

So this is how real world gacha looks like.

>>14988326
There's also the rectangle container one

I've got 4 Julian (1 main + 3 copies) at this point i know that using Gold units as fodder for AW is wrong because there's better uses for them, but in this case what should i do?
My picks are:
1) Mincost and SL the main Julian
2) SL Katie
3) AW Fodder

What should i do?

I finally got the answer for that ticket we sent last Monday. Standard.

"We send every feedback to the devs and we will work harder in the future so we would be grateful if you could keep sending feedback for other issues you discover." (Shortened)

>>14988428
Nothing wrong with having a mincost Julian. Even if you only end up using him for your Male army if you prefer Katie.

>>14988428
A soldiers main use is unit points both skill and cost go together to make a great soldier, decent stats come second and then lastly comes antirush capabilities.
Mincost and SU the main Julian is the best idea assuming Katie is your only other soldier.

>>14988428
Mincost soldier is the most important. The reason Aria better than Katie is she is easier mincost than Katie

>>14988434
>>14988439
>>14988445
That's what i been thinking to do.
Much appreciated.

Damn, another Aselia after yesterday's. Oh Sion, why do you avoid me so. It was our real last chance too...

>>14988428
DMM option: Get Altera and sell your Julians for 80 RC

>>14988461

>>14988428
Julian has great skill aw: his skill is same, but automatically triggers when possible, making him great AFK unit, especially for dragged out subjugation missions.

>>14988461
Isn't altera the black soldier?

General of a Ruined Land for aigis, is this the gold archer and tactician?

RIP in peace

>>14988508
Yes.

>>14988515
Aigis next

>>14988486
Yeah, and it feels like everyone has her.

>>14988508
Rita RIP.
Subjugation events RIP.
Next GR RIP

>>14988515
oh wow
Well, it seemed to be doing bad compared to peropero and osawari

>>14988515
What a shame, it was the only game of that type that I actively played and had put money in. I guess I'll celebrate by attempting to fap to it's porn. I would've figured that Angelic saga would have been the first DMM game to die, given it's removal off the Japanese service.

Thank you for playing Millennium War Aigis.

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>>14988528
To be honest no game is ever going to beat peropero for Nutaku given that it is their whaling vessel even if another game gets broad appeal in the English market. Basically every event they have 1000 people give them money and the top 100 give a lot given that the top person for this event is at 1.7 billion event points. I'm a free account has existed since the creation of the game and I can only make top 1000 by actively playing every second of every day of my free time or saving up the items.

>>14988515
>Thank you very much for playing Lord of Valkyrie.
>We would like to announce that Lord of Valkyrie service will be closed on the following date:
>April 28th(Thursday), 4:00AM(EDT)
>Like to announce
>Like

>>14988539
They will be back soon enough with another Valkyrie game. Like Ragnarok of Valkyrie:Sleipnir and Loki's carrot or Tale of Wakure: Thor and the dirty Ouroboros.

>>14988536
>"General of a Ruined Land"
Uhm... what's that supposed to be..?

>>14988574
Its this >>14988508

>>14988539
Yes, i've noticed that too.
They can't even write a decent "good bye".
LoV transaltions has always been crap but at least this time they could use more attention.

>>14988575
Oh... thanks.

>>14988539
It and Aigis are the games make Nutaku popular and this is all what they return. Fucking cunt

Nice, now the 3 people still playing on Nutaku can enjoy the only gold archer worse than Stray.

>>14988586
She doesn't seem too bad what with all the people who advocate Daniella with her skill, Assasinate 1 is fairly easy to level and also gives the attack boost.
Still there's not much need for gold archers as 90% of people have Bashira/Spica.

>>14988591
Bashira is very expensive and Spica alone isn't enough. I often use Spica+Daniela instead of Bashira when tight on cost

>>14988595
I've never needed to do that once, Bashira isn't overly expensive, maybe for an archer but good soldiers solve that.

>>14988602
Well, thats what I do in most orb dailies. I have lvl60 KT and Aria but they get killed pretty fast in those maps, even KT. So I open with archers, and Bashira's cost is awful.
Either way, the new archer is a girl so there's that at least.

>>14988609
For the AW dailys I've put down Bashira first in a few places, followed by Spica. Putting Spica down first seems sensible but ends up badly.

>>14988609
Spica into Bashira should work for witch daily if they're high enough level.

I wonder how many more Empire's generals will Prince have to NTR from the Emperor, before he comes to attack him for real.
I bet the Emperor will turn out to be a majin or at least controlled by them

>>14988636
Or turn into girl and get fucked by prince (your self-insert). I have boner for genderbender

>>14988645
I would prefer if Prince would turn into a girl and got fucked by Conrad, Jerome and other guys

>>14988609
None of orb dailies have problem with Bashira cost.
Nanaly map, for example: start with Spica, then Bashira, then Prince, then Katie, then Healer1, then Healer2, then HA1, then HA2. At 15 cost Bashira there's still some space re. unit cost.
Valkyrie map: Spica, Bashira, Prince, Healer1, Healer2, HA, Mage. Plenty of space too.

>>14988636
It was only 2 so far, pegasus rider and soldier, and soldier was like regiment-battalion grade commander, not something emperor himself would particularly mind.

>>14988650
>Valkyrie map: Spica, Bashira, Prince, Healer1, Healer2, HA, Mage. Plenty of space too.
>Spica, Bashira, Prince
It doesn't work for my case

I got a question for you veteren Aigis players:

Is it worthwhile to increase a CC'ed Gold+ unit with the same copy of the CC'ed Gold+ unit? Is it better to just use a non-CC'ed Gold unit and focuse more on the CR than SU? I've already done this for Katie and Iris once and I was pretty short on silver materials to CC after those two times.

>>14988650
I was mostly talking about the witch and valkyrie. I leak soldiers in both if I don't start with cheap archers, my Bashira is 50CC55 and Spica awakened lvl40

>>14988664
You have non-AW Spica?
AW Spica + non-AW Bashira kill almost all soldiers before they reach prince, and first valkyrie is killed by Bashira's skill, you have plenty of time to deploy healer to support Prince.

I use different slots than video, btw. Instead deploying Spica at leftest spot on that central island, I reserve that one for healer and deploy Spica and Bashira at 2 next to it.

>>14988674
Then wait to get that silver unit for CC.
CR+SL is a good thing to do and some gold units AW skills are pretty useful.

Your pick anyway.

>>14988687
To be more precise, which is better: A rainbow fairy or the same CC'ed character for 1)Gold 2)Platinum 3)Black?

The answer will clear my doubts.

>>14988695
I dunno about others, but I have 16 rainbow fairies sitting on my dmm account, and I don't know who to spam them on. Seeing how golds have only 5lvls in their skill, I don't think they'd be too hard to raise, especially since some of the skills can be found elsewhere, like in silver dragons for atk boost III. I am still CCing my Cloris fodders, but I think thats a waste of time myself.

>>14988695
If you just care about SL then go for Rainbow.

>>14988695
Rainbow fairys are best for the stronger skills, which blacks and some plats have or maybe for the last skill level of a decent gold unit. Its not about whether a unit is CC or not that matters, its their skill.
IF the skill changes after CC then it needs to be CC but many plats and blacks don't have skills that change. That said most golds and some plats do have skills that change.

Every answer depends on the unit in question really, theres no better blanket anser we could give.

>>14988709
With regards to the chart above, what are the odds of SL for those Reminense/Revival fairies that are dropped from some revival missions?

>>14988709
Looking at that reminds me that I didn't try hard enough to get a perfect Charlotte.
I know Charlotte isn't as good as Horace, but damn it, I wanted her cause she was cute. Now she's benched since the best I could do was reduce her to 25cost (which I believe is just a -1). She has 5/10 skill though.

>>14988756
I'm sorry, atleast you have good taste in Charlotte over Horace.
Mincost Charlotte is 22 so yours is -2, still usable though.

>>14988756
Horace only better than her when skill AW come which is never on Nutaku at this pace. She's perfectly usable

>>14988772
I do have enough material to Awaken Charlotte with the exception of leveling her.
I was thinking about doing it just for her, but if 25cost Charlotte is still viable, I might be inclined to add her into my A team.

>>14988787
>Horace needs Skill AW to be better?
Really? I'm a little salty for believing in those post then. Since Skill AW will come out in years, I could of had a perfectly good Charlotte for that time.

Oh well...Maybe I can use some rainbow fairies to cap her skill at least.

>>14988727
Do you mean the Spirit of Time?
That fairy is used for CR not SL

>>14988806
Nah he means the revival fairy, should just be regular same skill fuse chance.

>>14988756
I always try to min cost the drop event plats but I also ended up with 25 cost Charlotte

Aigis really didn't like me that week

>>14988816
For me, "not trying" is not tapping into my stockpile of Sacred Crystals.
I think if I blew 5 or 10, I could have had a perfect Charlotte. Hell I got a perfect Rika on 3 SCs. Then again, try as I might, I couldn't get a perfect Ada, so yeah. RNGoddess Aigis really hated me guts there too.
I really like Hisahiko's art. So much in fact I made sure to grab Garania and Yuyu too.

I forgot when was the last time I got a plat can on nutaku. 5 runs just now, not a single drop as usual

>>14988515
>>14988523
So what's next?

Aigis: Unlikely since it still pulls in money, but Dev Tea are assholes, so who knows. Highly dependent on whenever Nutaku decides to take more control and how (badly) that turns out.

Pero: Somehow this is still hugely popular and makes money, so lolnope.

Angelic Saga: Ded on DMM, but still getting support and presumably still making money here. On the other hand, it's still one of the least popular games on Nutaku, so it could still be dying, sadly.

Osawari: Still poplar, though at the rate it's going, it'll only keep descending into the P2W ranking hell that it is/was on DMM. But like Pero, it still has its fair share of whales and is still getting new users, so it'll be around for a while still.

GK/DTM/DP/DS: I honestly have no clue how these are going.

Kanpani: Not sure. The lack of new content is surely killing it slowly, but it still has a decent amount of traffic, so it could go either way.

Quiz: Far too early to tell, but it probably won't die as quickly (?) as LoV since it actually has gameplay. Not sure how bad the stamina grind past level 30 is though.

>>14988886
Whoops, forgot about Hitsuji. Since it's ded on DMM and devs clearly don't give a shit about it here either, I'm guessing that's next to die.

>>14988896
That or Angelic Saga, but i think Angelic is going way worse than Hitsuji for now, Angelic closed quite long time ago on DMM so pretty soon Nutaku will run out of contents too.

>>14988928
The dilemma here is I actually want to support Saga, because the devs here are actively trying to improve the game.

Whereas Hitsuji devs don't give a fuck, so there's no point in trying.

>>14988937
Hitsuji devs, like you said, were shit even on DMM.
Hurts me so much to see a game with such potential developed by a bunch of not-caring-idiots.

Finally got last sniper orb needed to AW Bashira.
Got one more AW fairy and bunch of 30CC1 silvers, but I'll save for Shuuka/Imeria/Waltz/Flan/Eriza.

Whats your AW team on Nutaku, /jp/?

>>14988969
I only awakened Bernice so far. I have a ton of lvl70 plats but I don't like any of them that much
Same situation on dmm, I only awaken units that make my dick really hard. I dunno why I do that

>>14988969
Aria, Belinda, Bernice, Fedora, Iris, Spica, Thetis

Next will likely be KT assuming I can scrounge up some rogues/soldiers from the event.

These fucking boobjobs though.

Hopefully this is as bad as it gets, I'd hate to see how much worse they could go down the line.

Is it possible to get the new girl on DMM Aigis from repeated event missions or does she only drop on the first win of each one?

Fucking RNG man
Fed Cloris 5 copies, only 1 CR

>>14989007
She drops in all but one mission. The higher the difficulty the more likely she is to drop passed the first time. Final mission is a 100% drop rate.

>>14988969
Taking it slowly, planning on AWing Monica after getting a tin can today yet no such thing dropped so... probably I'll AW her after getting one from the G map if things don't go better for the rest of the day. Next will be Cuterie or Cellia.

>>14989037
Just level her normally. I'd understand waiting for a can to level a black from 77 to 80, but golds are cheap

>>14989045
I won't be able to indulge on base summon that way... a guilty pleasure of mine.

>>14988515
Isn't this game still alive and getting high ranks on DMM? Or is that another 'walkure'-series game?

>>14989065
The same.
Pretty much on top 10 most of the time on DMM, yes.

>>14989106
Is there anything majorly different from Nutaku version or do JPs love mediocrity?

Then again, Pero is thriving on both DMM and Nutaku, and that has about as much "gameplay" as LoV.

FKG got bunch of updates for Garden. Now you can tweet your garden with one click from the game!
Garden-specific animations for some chars added, friends can visit your garden and so on.

>>14989121
I'm guessing the stream didn't have any info on Nutaku version?

>>14989124
Because Japanese devs don't care about gaijin durr

>>14989124
Stream is tomorrow. Today was planned maintenance.

>>14989113
As far as i know Nutaku players prefer shit like BBE and SS or p2w shit like Dragon Providence, LoV is not appealing enough for them.

>>14989129
Oh, okay.

>>14989132
I know Nutaku playerbase has shit taste, but I didn't think the BBE/SS players overlapped with, well, this thread.

>>14989121
I never really keep up with the garden, are there any time limited furniture that you can miss?

>>14989141
Well, lately LoV got less and less updates, probably because the number of players weren't enough to make devs "waste" time on it.
LoV was already dead for quite some time...
About differences uhm... well Nutaku is quite back with updates but at side for that they even put some real lolis into the game without censorship, not even that saved LoV on Nutaku though.

>>14989113
>>14989141
My guess is that LOV was one of the first 'big' titles out there and it's still there. Some people probably don't want to jump over to the next big and better title because of the time and money they invested.

It's like Cygames has Cinderella Girls: it's outdated as fuck. doesn't really have any gameplay, they only recently added music and sounds to the menu and most of the characters are not voiced at all. Not mentioning that the game is gaijin restriced and there is little to no way of getting gacha girls(you can gain gacha tickets as event rewards but the premium currency is real money only)
And yet it's still very popular because of the franchise and characters.

>>14989176
You raise a good point.

You'd think Cinderella Girls in particular would update its shit, given the amount it makes... But there's always Deresute to improve on what LLSIF did instead.

Mages are Garania > Odette > Mehlis > Burblestroke > Valerie > Pallis, right?

>>14989201
You forgetting my lovely Sasha saddens me.

>>14989201
Also forgot the second old man Cyrus

They're never going to localize Kancolle, are they? ;_;

>>14989201
>Valerie > Pallis
wut
Pallis is superior than fuccboi Valerie

>>14989213
>>14989223
I don't have either of them yet :^)

>>14989227
Okay, good to know. I assume affection and damage boost makes up for her precipitously lower attack?

>>14989235
Kind of.

Valerie has 403 atk 50cc50, and 452 with 100% trust
Pallis has 350 atk 50cc50, and 446 with 100% affection

>>14989235
Most people prefer her attack up skill instead of more splash range.

>>14989225
Late to bandwagon? It stopped being fun after 2014 so you're not missing much

>>14989235
Pallis has 6 more attack total and the attack up boost which is easily skilled up and sorta useful, Valeries explosion range boost isn't useful to skill up and the range is too small really.

>>14989201
Garania > Sasha/Odette > Mehlis > Burblestroke > Cyrus > Pallis > Valerie preAW, post AW Cyrus and Barbie are wierd. I'd say AW all other classes than the male mages first.

>>14989200
I'm actually really confused about how Cygames operates. It's as if they have multiple departaments covering different games which act independently. I'll make a few examples:

When they first introduced Granblue fantasy it didn't have many things it has right now. Yeah the core gameplay was there and you couldn't really mess that up too much, but as the game gained more popularity they started adding more things like: more voiced lines for existing characters during battle, new types of events, better animations, more ways for people to obtain stuff etc. So the whole quality generally went up.

Then there was Princess Connect(which will be shutdown soon, rip). For some reason it wasn't featured on mobage.jp and was hosted by Ameba. It had so little coverage and too few CMs so I'm not surprised people never heard about it. But I played it and here's what I can tell you:

Purikone was basically an upgraded version of Cindrella Girls but with an actual gameplay and guild battles like in Dragon Providence. And absolutely every character was voiced everywhere. Every character got 3 fully voiced sub-stories per card, had a bunch of skills and the rarest girls had a super attack with customly animated cut-in animation.(Everyone had a super attack, it's just that SSRs had it flashy and unique) They also gave you tons of premium currency which wasn't restricted like in CG.

The setting was good enough and non-generic for me: you play as a protag playing VR-mmo, getting girls into your guild and meeting them irl(the evolved version of a girl is her irl appearence).

The game received a single one-way collab with granblue and a single one-way collab with Cinderella Girls. It was basically 'if you're already playing GBF and CG then you can get stuff in Purikone). The game was much more better than Cinderella Girls in terms of quality, but in the end it just wasn't popular enough, I've never seen it advertized anywhere too much.

That brings me to a conclusion that each game by Cygames is managed very differently. My concern is that they leave potentially better games to die off while milking on low-quality ones without rising the quality.

Now I'm wondering if the policy of 'if it's popular the way it is we shouldn't improve it' is popular among japanese online developers. FKG devs sure don't follow it and I'm glad they aren't.

I actually got a tin can after complaining. Don't expect her passive to actually make a difference but eh. Can't hurt having a leveled pirate I guess.

>>14989353
You can see the difference during a rate up.

First, you'll have to see a rate up though

>>14989355
We just had one

>>14989355
Does the rate up come after the effect from the passive then? As in she gives a 10% extra?

>>14988969

Monica, Spica, Aria, Conrad

It's hilarious watching AW Conrad almost-solo (with prince and healers) Phalanx 2.

It appears I unknowingly spent $400 last month on aigis. I need to keep my gambling addiction in check more.

In FKG is it ever explain whether girls are okay with Dancho-san having sex with everyone? Or is everyone keeping it a secret?

>>14989442
According to the LN, the FKG world has a male-to-female ratio of 1:20 and men have a lot of leverage in choosing whom to marry.

I still wish there were no men and the knightmaster was a gentle onee-san instead of a generic nukige nopperabo, though. At least they're giving us more girls who swing both ways, so that's nice, though I'd like to see a yuri pair of something like broom and broomrape or thyme and dodder-of-thyme.

> Want Sherry
> Roll twice
> Pic related

So, he has to be AW'd as soon as possible?

>>14988928
Angelic Saga is independent from the DMM one, they even announced it, so it can stay there for a very long time unnoticed like the AV games they had before.

>>14989465
The sooner the better. You did good.

>>14989465
Pretty much, he's the best soldier in the game. AW passive grants you +2 Cost just by having him in your team.

>SP crystal day, time for disappointment!
>get Gina

... I'm okay with this.

>>14989472
>>14989475

Alright, time to hit Wednesday for the orbs while I amass the fodder. I'd just gotten the 2 Healer orbs I needed for Camilla too.

Is the next event a farm type or star trial?

>>14989497
Don't forget the 100 trust needed, next event is star trial.

>>14989467
>Angelic Saga is independent from the DMM one
Uh... tell me more, i'm interested.
How works? They are seriously 2 different developers working on it? That's kinda cool.

>>14989540

Thankfully, I have enough free booze to get one more guy to 100%. Right, much as I like to splurge cha/sta to figure out maps myself, I may have to resort to video guides early this time to get more AW farming done.

>>14989465
If you aren't in a hurry, you can lvl him to 50 and not CC him for a while, he will make a great job that way too.

>>14989465
If you have a mincost gold soldier AW, Jeromes not high proirity just medium, but if you bring 2 soldiers often then he still is.

>>14989546
From what they said like 2 weeks after the launch, is that Angelic Saga has a nutaku dedicated team, not a DMM one, back then we discussed how much would that cost and other things like that. The only thing they left untouched was the core game. The other games that have a full nutaku team are Girls Kingdom (from what they say in the chat), and Osawari which everyone knows by now.
Also there are hints that Kanpani team is an independent one too, they receive everything from DMM, but they are free to do everything they want with the game.

>>14989546

Well, same dev team but when the DMM one sank they decided to stick around and follow Nutaku's orders. They've been adding stuff like a friend system so you can offline play against each other's decks with an eternal "coming soon" for real-time PvP with friends. Experimentation has been done with how to run the gacha too - latest event has guaranteed SSR for handing in a stack of grind tickets.

But ultimately, I don't think AS can escape from its 2 biggest flaws:
1) Unlimited grind works - maxing EVERY card you deploy means you can't try out cool stuff when it comes out. Doesn't matter how many rare girls you get showered with, you won't put it in your deck until weeks later. The slow trickle of new blood quickly get put off as they can't reach an acceptable standard quickly.
2) PvP takes ages. To be fair, it's a TCG PvP - it isn't as complex as MtG but there's still enough bluffing room that matches can legitimately drag on. Long match time wouldn't be bad except... the tournament rewards assume you grind lots of matches.


There are things they could try to alleviate these issues. But they're risky moves, like angering whales who put money to skip the grind.

>>14989584
I see, well that's interesting, thanks.

>>14989574

AW'd Aria not long ago. Ok, I'll finish Camilla AW before I work on Jerome CC.

>>14989582
> Girls Kingdom (from what they say in the chat)

Also from chat, someone who played DMM Girls Union said Nutaku does more in its events than the JP originals. Mind, from what I gather the GK code base is so shit it's time-expensive to do any work on it - and every event is a hard-code change so there's really no time for anything extra. It's not making much money either.

>>14989582
That may explain why Nutaku Kanpani got everyday mail and extra quests, to bad we are still stucked with the story and CQ though.
Basically at side for the bad censorship "Nutaku devs" actually cares about their games.
Interesting.

>>14989584
I think they've been making the game more and more F2P/newbie friendly, what with the excess amounts of exp cards, decent event payoff, and just new cards in general adjusting the meta. The current major obstacle is the lack of upgrade materials.

And the tourney situation is indeed a huge problem, but it could be easily fixed if they just tweaked the competition point system. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can't play 50 games a week, considering even one game can be a chore. If they made it so that losses resulted in no progress, it might not be such a hassle to go through every week.

The Kanpani update eased up the requisites for the quests. Just when I had brought my trainee to 50 shrug.

>>14988515
I never fuck the first witch

>>14989604
I've been saying for a while that Nutaku does have its fair share of good devs. It's just Dev Tea and the censorship fiasco bring it down. Doesn't help that most of this thread is only concerned with Aigis.

>>14989618
Being Aigis the biggest game on R18 Nutaku and overall on DMM too, the concerne is obvious.
Still, if FKG gets to be well supported and without awful censorships (talking about nothing at all is a dream and nothing more at this point) without removed girls and/or skipped events, the situation may slightly change.

>>14989546
>>14989582
So Nutaku are a bunch of faggot liars is what you're saying.

Nothing new.

>>14988515
I whish they would do what the english version of Koihime Musou game did when it closed down...Make all the girls availeable to get for free.

>>14989618
>Doesn't help that most of this thread is only concerned with Aigis.
Not only this thread. ULMF, harem-club and utahime are overwhelmingly-aigis too. Not surprising since aigis is the only game with good gameplay.

>>14989639
Nutaku isn't a game developer, they have different division of teams for each game and of course their respective developers. They only share the results of the teams, but they aren't the team.

>>14989639
?
I don't see what you mean there, they are partners with developers (i know some guys that talked with them during EXPO for a partnership), but Nutaku per se is not a developer.

>>14989634
I really doubt aigis is the biggest game on nutaku. Look at the rankings on the front page, Aigis is completely absent.

>>14989680
I'm talking about this thread, also that ranking is based on players that prefer shit like BBE, SS and/or P2W games without any real gameplay.

>>14989634
>accepting any censorship at all
No, that's retarded. If Nutaku is still censoring things, it means that you aren't shitting on them enough. The only reason they're censoring shit is because their user base is full of idiots that encourage them to censor shit by paying them. Stop the cash flow and they'll soon play a different tune.

Here's a reminder that Nutaku is earning absurd amounts of money for its half-assed "translations" and butchered art. The least it can do is bringing its new games over properly.

>>14989615
I know some plays whined about the prerequisites, but they actually sent enough tickets to make the devs change it?

Props to the devs but the players were being kinda silly. Yeah it was kind of luck based but it wasn't crazy like making you find 5 hammers, you only needed one.

Besides, the ultra quest is kind of hardcore anyways, hard should be enough for hammer farming purposes. The exp ratios of all quests suck anyways.

Sucks that after having no events for awhile this is the player's reaction to the spring training one.

And now that Nutaku are getting to the point of closing down games, I am a bit more wary now. Hope no bullshit catches Kanpani and makes it a desolate wasteland. It's the nly game I really care about on Nutaku.

Also, lol that games like Hellfire Girl and Big Bang Empire are still alive and LoV is the first to close down.

Must be the initial censorship that plagued it.

>>14989720
>bringing its new games over properly
>expecting Nutaku to do something right
That will never happen

>>14989720
Did i've said that i accept any censorship?
Censorship is bullshit but let's be honest, the chances to see FKG or any game on Nutaku without a single censorship is pretty much impossible and frankly i'm tired to hope in a miracle.

>>14989727
It's not like a limited gold mailbox deserves all that work in first place frankly.

>>14989727
How much you wanna bet that FKG, being another most popular game on DMM, will be headed by DevTea for the english division as well?

Calling it now folks.

>>14989727
The lack of updates for Kanpani is worrying, it's my favorite game too and i would hate to see it close down. I really hope i'm just being paranoid.

>>14989747
Aigis 2.0 confirmed.

>>14989751
I've gaved up on many games but i have still to give up on Kanpani, it's time to add contents.
Being nice with the community is cool and appreciated but the lack of contents will kill the game for sure in the long run.

>>14989747
If that happens, FKG devs will probably fly over to Nutaku HQ and personally beat the shit out of their entire staff with hockey sticks or moose antlers or whatever passes for weaponry in them Canadian wastes.

No team on DMM cares about their game more than FKG devs, I'd like to see what happens if Nutaku tries its usual bullshit on them.

>>14989763
They are in Canada and Ireland.

It's 2016 and aigis still looks like shit. Updated graphics when?

>>14989922
2025 when we get an Aigis reboot.

>>14989747
Dev Tea (people who are authors of that update note) is Original Aigis Team, they are not Nutaku employees and have no relation to FKG.

For Kanpani: Has one of the 3* tanks a high drop rate in one of the missions?

>>14990126
Luna and Flora seem to show up quite often as drops, but I won't call it high at all, like once in a few months.

>>14989792
Good, now they need to be in Australia and Sweeden to complete the countries with the most harsh censorship.

>>14990025
>they are not Nutaku employees and have no relation to FKG
That's what they want you to think.

>>14990312
You guys keep pushing but when you meme the dev tea into some lovecraftian horror you only have yourselves to blame.

Does the hardest fairy daily drop a lot of black fairies on dmm? Should I push my team in that direction? I have a ton of platinum cans but no black fairies to boost my blacks

>>14990428
It can drop 3. I usually get at least one per run.

>>14989922
The last DMM patch just updated a bunch of the enemy graphics.

>>14990428
I just ran it and got 0 drops.

>>14990499
That's the fairy daily we all know and love.

So I started Oshirore today, never played the original incarnation. Were the enemy sprites this cute in the original too? Some of these things use the terrain to hide, watching to see when it's best to make a run for it.

So, can you get Kasugayama if you didn't get her in the original event?

Post bears.

>>14992231
That's a big bear.

>>14992280
For me.

>>14992231

>>14992014
I saw a nip on Twitter show a drop screen of her and another one had Frankenstein's castle so my guess is yes. I hope so as well since I accidentally fed Hara for estate exp.

>>14990893
Their sprites were pretty much like that back then but the whole hiding thing is new.

Yay, another free angel.
I hope she gets some more useful than Chloe's AW ability.

>>14992501
Judging by her name she'll probably boost the stats of all angels with her ability.

>>14992501
Oh damn can't wait to see her H scene.

New DMM 18+ game released, PaiHime:
http://www.dmm.co.jp/netgame_s/paihime/

>>14992501
That's great news, angels are my favorite units and a ranged/buffing one would be great to have. I hope she isn't a star trial unit.

It's also good if this is a sign that they're willing to expand the angel unsealing gimmick to something other than 3 block/2 melee too, a ranged/magic angel with extra-high MR and the same mechanic would be good to have (as a lightning rod if nothing else). Angels only have angel/archangel/dominion as their regular/CC/AW classes so clearly there's room for fireball-slinging thrones.

>>14993263
Probably star trial or item trial.

>>14990893
Of the game sprites, only enemy sprites were retained from the original. The castle girls all used to look more 'dopey' (in a super deformed way), with less 'detail' than they have now for their sprites.

Though as another anon said, none of the enemies used to hide in the original - ground-based enemies would travel on roads or paths only, while air units can appear from anywhere. All enemies start from the edge of the map however, not like now where you can have enemies popping up in the middle of nowhere (the 'hiding' thing).
That said, the maps are not as detailed as they are now either - scale-wise, the maps in the original was more on a regional basis than now and the art for the maps were pretty simple due to it. I kind of miss being able to deploy castle girls on water though.

Oshirore officially opened 30 minutes ago - there's a big list of minor changes already.

In particular, you now get shiny orb things for hitting certain levels, and they reduced the stamina cost for the main storyline missions - what used to be the 47 stamina map for me now only costs 34 stamina to do. 'Hero' EXP you get from the map was reduced slightly to compensate however. They've also changed the difficulty of the maps in general (I presume easier, because I can't imagine how much grinding is required to beat certain maps otherwise previously with what you started with).

There is a nerf, however - certain Installation-type skills now have a maximum summon of 1 at a time.

Kamipro animations look pretty good https://twitter.com/kamihimeproject/status/710079379544494080

I think even if it wouldn't have enough gameplay depth it's probably going to take that FKG-like place for it's visual quality.

>>14993437
> enemy on left side
Friggin hipsters.

>>14993437
Look like grand blue

>>14993451
would it not be more confusing to have it on right side?

>>14993437
Either that or it's going to be super-p2w, stay on top rankings for 1-2 weeks and then plummet like a rock.

>>14993429
There are further changes to this I should add:

- The point cost for final upgrade has been reduced by 2-4 points depending on how expensive they were to upgrade (Odawara Castle, for example, used to cost 53 points for her final upgrade - now this costs 49)

- Repeating Crossbows seem to have been hit with a pretty hefty nerf - before they fired all shots at a single target, now they work like aoe weapons in that they can hit more than one target if they're in range but only fires one shot per target (A 3-shot Repeating Crossbow will thus fire all three shots at 3 targets each, or fire one shot at one target).

- They either nerfed or fixed certain installation units (I'm thinking it's really a fix). In particular, the guy waving the white banner used to have an unusual effect of drastically reducing damage of friendlies within its range, maybe even down to 10% damage taken. They no longer do this, but it was fun abusing it while it was like that for nearly invincible storage houses.

- It feels like certain enemy types had their stats altered, but I'm not entirely sure. The 'gorilla' Kabuto with the two golden arms and the elephant Kabuto certainly feel like they take longer to take down - might've had their defensive stats swapped around to such that they have more physical def and less magical def. While I can't confirm it I'm pretty sure those two defensive stats exist for enemies, because the crab enemies die faster to a talisman user than a bow user, despite the bow user having more attack.

There's probably a few other (unannounced) changes but I'll be finding them out as I play, I guess.

>>14993451
I think Japan doesn't pay much attention to it(neither do I). In all ps2 Atelier games enemies were always on the left side for example.

>>14993518
Left side since FF 1 and before?

>>14993523
Yeah, I don't get the hipster comment.

Everyone loves Siegrid, and Holly.

Heh, so much FKG talk had me hoping for a surprise release today. Gonna have to wait a bit more I guess.

>>14993550
Well, in a bit less than 4 hours we're getting their Nico broadcast, so tune in then for all the FKG talk you want.

There will probably be a sneak peek of the new Higanbana/Nadeshiko/Anemone alongside other upcoming girls, and if we're lucky they may even say something about the EN version.

>>14993557
I see, thanks for the heads-up anon. I'll probably have depleted my stamina with Aigis by then so I may as well watch it.

>>14993557
>if we're lucky they may even say something about the EN version.
You're delusional. It's stream for japanese on japanese stream site. Why would they talking about gaijin version?

>>14993599
>Why would they talking about gaijin version?
"something something we're expanding we will grow our assimila... cooperation with NUTAKU has been beneficial the stars are now right ia ia y'ai'ng'ngag YOG-SOTHOTH h'ee-l'geb f'ai throdog uaaaaah"

(screams, then static)

Heh, wasting time looking videos while waiting for the stream and the Aigis event I stumbled upon a rant about the SO5 "debacle" I still didn't know about.
Man, we are getting worse and worse. They didn't learn anything from 4 and this tendency to listen and censor shit for people that probably wont even play their games don't make me very hopeful for future game localizations, be them S-E or Nutaku.

>>14993633
(Static disappears and feed is back)
NUTAKU executive standing top of previous host of show says "We have taken over DMM version of FKG and it shall have some minor (coughs major) adjustments to please our payment provider. All praise provider!"
Previous host "Please at least let lolis go"
NUTAKU executive "Conrad take them to operating room, you know same place where our agent SILLY came from"
Conrad puts lolis in bag and leaves the room while grinding his teeth manly.
NUTAKU executive "Agent SILLY clean things up here"
SILLY draws near host while host is praying great loli to save him. SILLY forces host to look at her causing hosts eyes to bleed and ultimately to pop. Then SILLY drags hosts body away while NUTAKU executive is finishing stream.

Black Hidden Genius Strategis Aisha is in Nutaku

>Aisha is in the spotlight

Hell hath frozen over.

AISHA?!!!!

So, Aisha is not loli, but Kagerou is loli.
Nutaku totally makes sense as always.

>Flat loli in Aigis

Is the world ending tomorrow?

>>14993768
I bet she got boobs and face upgrade.

>>14993687
NUTAKU executives muttered "If aigis got lolis, but FKG did not how they would react?" while leaving

Hold me people, I may invest on her. Camilla is a nice bonus yet the golds are...ugh.

>>14993768
according nutaku calendar

>>14993759
I know right?
What the fuck is going on?
Aisha is fine butnot Mischa?

I bet its all about money. Mischa is free good unit => not allowed. Aisha is black and very famous among playes => good profit source => allowed.

>>14993780
Black Iris and Dina are still missing and are probably more famouse being named most of the time and Dina was even one of the very first units showed by Nutaku, i don't think that's just about being a free unit at this point.

so, 6 rolls trying for Aisha or Barracks?

>>14993800
Aisha

>>14993800
Best of luck anon. May the dubs go with you.

>>14993808
Dubs are a one in ten chance. Confirmed for rolling a plat instead.

> urgent maintenance: wrong unit added to gacha. unit removed, all players who got her paid 1 SC compensation

>>14993814
> New Spotlight Unit: Elaine

Between google translate of wiki and nutakus translation, I can't figure out what Aishas skill actually does.
It increases the attack power of everyone by 3.0 times I get but up to 5 units can attack at the same time?

>>14993833
Her attack x3 and she drops meteors on up to 5 enemies at a time

>>14993833
5 units attacked by Aisha at same time.
Basically, you turn on her skill, and she wipes off everything on the map.

Damnit, I get more Garrets and Cuteries than silvers whenever I roll and now Aisha comes and he's in the spotlight? Grr...

Welp, I knew I wasn't going to get the rigged loli of death but I got Deine out of 5 rolls so I'm going to call this a fucking major victory.

>>14993896
Damn, well done anon.

It's still only one loli. Call me when we're getting no break, 1.5 drop rate and subjugation event. Don't get you hop up

>>14993909
>only one loli.
You say that, but even that is a a major breakthrough.

>>14993909
Aigis is a lost cause because of two things: Dev Tea hates EN players' guts and Nutaku is a bunch of censor-happy assholes.

Aisha being in means that the latter may change and makes me hopeful about FKG.

>>14993912
>>14993909
>only one
we've had shiho since forever though

>>14993935
>There's no loli in Nutaku game
t.Nutakudev

>>14993935
Shiho is a hell of a lot more of a woman than Aisha, Aisha looks more like a little boy to me, still I'm pleased we got him.

This is the real reason Aishas in the game.

>>14993952
him? She is fine lady

>>14993956
We're gonna need some proof, either way is good though.

>>14993958
>We're gonna need some proof
Plot twist: Aisha got implemented without her R18 scene

>>14993952
You mean Aisha is actually a boy and NTR'ing Prince's harem right from under his nose? As expected of the genius tactician.

Eagerly awaiting the doujin where Prince notices and decided to resolve the situation by drilling Aisha's boypussy so hard that he becomes his woman.

Someone got her on the wiki so we will know soon enough if she was tampered.

>>14993976
I rolled for her but got a Bashira
I'm not complaining because I missed when she was in the trade post

>>14993994
That's nice. She's lovely. Everyone should have one.

>>14993994
Now you won't feel left out and have a great almost irreplacable archer.

>load up
>roll premium
>it's black
>get hype
>it's Despara
I'm okay with this.

>>14994013
Last time I got this feeling of "everyone's getting blacks" things ended up badly for me, hopefully this time it goes differently. Color me jealous you lucky bastards.

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv257047936
FKG broadcast is starting in a little bit, get in if you're interested.

If you have premium membership on Nico, you can also enter your mail address to get a code for Wintersweet, a gold-rarity, piercing-type pair of breas... er, flower knight.

>>14994018
As someone who's rolled 5 blacks, do it at your own pace not when others are getting them.
One day you'll feel super lucky and thats when you need to roll. 4 of my blacks I got from spamming rolls sorta hoping for the spotlight black and failing to get her.

Mikoto needed just one roll and I knew damn well I was getting her, it was destiny.

>>14994027
Man, I can't watch these videos seriously. I always start laughing at the comments. Also, that mangaka is fast.

>>14994044
Ouch, they threw me out. Shame.

>>14994047
Happens when there's too much traffic, just try to get back in and you'll succeed after a while.

Too bad this broadcast is about spin-off franchise, I wanted the "let someone roll the gacha and get 10 bronzes/1 silver" thing to happen again.

>>14994052
To be honest, my japanese is a bit limited. The experience can be a bit surreal understanding the guys speak to the girl about "I like girls with small breasts or fondle breats this and that" while people spam tarinai---- and kuma---

>>14994054
Well, what else do you expect from the loli lover devs?

>secret garden discussion right after this
I find that hilarious because in the (totally unrelated) Secret Garden musical there's an entire song about two adult men more or less talking about how they both fell in love with a ten year old girl at first sight.

Now I won't be able to play that stage without hearing that song.

> not loli, but meganeko so still okay
Lol, sasuga loli seyuu.