/jp/ - Otaku Culture

So, as I was saying about shooping Alice Rape into pics to make it a meme...

>>1474709

Not really a yukkuri, but she's taking it easy.

Behold. A Yukkuri desu.

>>1474753
Wrong pic

>>1474755
I wish people would draw a Yukkuri Joker(Heath Ledger Ver.) that says "TAKE IT SERIOUSLY!" or Iron Yukkuri that says "REGISTER IT EASY!".

>>1474756

Reimu stole Marisa's precious thing.

>>1474759

>>1474709
Please, no. No more meme talk in these threads, it sucks.

An awesome anon released what we've been waiting for for a long time.

Go to the danbooru clone (Yukkuri.shiteitte.net) and look at 1029 to 1049. MAKAKO's DOUJIN HELL YEAH

Still begging for translation

Hey. Anyone has a screenshot of the original thread (on 2chan I think)? The one with failed Shift-JIS thing?

>>1474795
I agree, but I had to post this (my apologies in advance)

>>1474709
That's called a forced meme. It's actually the exact opposite of a meme.

Yukkuri threads are not any more of a meme than SWR replay threads are.

sage

Another one of those yukkuri fact things popped up. This one's new.

>>1475577
And how many of those are translated?

>>1475668
Just this. >>1459446

I come bearing a translation check request.

yamete ne marisa!!!
stop it marisa!!!

おじさんがしごとにいったのぜ!!!
ojisan ga shigoto ni ittano ze!!!
mishter's away at work -ze!!!

こんなところですっきりしたくないよ!!!
konna tokoro de sukkiri shitaku nai yo!!!
this isn't a private place to refresh!!!

いまのうちりすっきりするんだぜ!!!
imano uchiri sukkiri surunda ze!!!
gonna cum from rubbing so let's refresh now -ze!!! (I got confused as to the structure, this just makes the most

sense)

やめでええええ!!! あがじゃんほしくないよ!!!
yamedeeeee!!! agajyan hoshiku nai yo!!!
stop idddd!!! I don't want babies!!! (slurred)

もうがまんのげんかいないだ
mou gamanno genkai naida!!!
losing control, at my limit!!!

ぞうえてやがる
zou ete yagaru
that... growth... (disdain about growing (a stalk))

おいちちょ
oi chicho-
oh, food- (koslurred)

one more check

れいむのかわいいにどもだよk!
reimu no kawaii ni domo dayo!
reimu's really cute!

うんこしがふくれないむのうなおじさんといっしょにくないでね!
unko shigafu kurenai munou na ojisan to issho nikunai dene !
incompetent mister with a body is nothing but red crap!

おじちゃんばかだね!
ojichan baka dane!
mishter's an idiot!

Did anyone save that collection of Swirly-eyed art from the pooshlmer yukkuri thread?

A DOUJIN APPEARS!!

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>>1479795
get cracking translators

>>1479202

http://yukkuri.shiteitte.net/post/list/Warekara/1

Has there been any new progress on Yukkuri Postal?

>>1479836
Fuck, I was about to ask the same question.

>>1479836
>>1479880
Now with 50% more moe!

>>1479202
Is Reimu having the Yukkuri euthanised/fixed in that last panel?

>>1479715
That looks like Makako's doing.

>>1479836
>>1479880
Seconded

>>1480206

Translation check for
>>1477956
Keep in mind I'm going by this text, I don't have the original comics.

>stop it marisa!!!
correct

>mishter's away at work -ze!!!
correct, though maybe somehow note that 'ojisan' is different from the usual 'mister', 'onii-san'

>konna tokoro de sukkiri shitaku nai yo!!!
>this isn't a private place to refresh!!!
sort of, more like "I don't wanna get refreshed in a place like this!!!"
>いまのうちりすっきりするんだぜ!!!
>imano uchiri sukkiri surunda ze!!!
>gonna cum from rubbing so let's refresh now -ze!!! (I got confused as to the structure, this just makes the mostsense)
No, this is "Gonna get refreshed now while we have the chance-ze!!!" or "Now's our chance to get refreshed-ze!!!"
You mistranscribed the first part, it should be "imano uchiNi", not "ri"

>stop idddd!!! I don't want babies!!! (slurred)
correct

>mou gamanno genkai naida!!!
>losing control, at my limit!!!
I think you mistranscribed the last part, pretty sure it should be "nanda!!!"
The translation is okay, I would do it as "I can't hold it any longer!!!" depending on context.

>ぞうえてやがる
>zou ete yagaru
>that... growth... (disdain about growing (a stalk))
I have no idea, I think you might have mistranscribed this one.

>おいちちょ
>oi chicho-
>oh, food- (koslurred)
"looks tasty" (koslurred) is more accurate.

>>1480305
I believe this is it.
http://yukkuri.shiteitte.net/post/view/1070?search=kome

>>1478105


>れいむのかわいいにどもだよk!
>reimu no kawaii ni domo dayo!
>reimu's really cute!
pretty sure it's supposed to be "reimu no kawaii KOdomo dayo", or "It's Reimu's cute child/children!"

>うんこしがふくれないむのうなおじさんといっしょにくないでね!
>unko shigafu kurenai munou na ojisan to issho nikunai dene !
>incompetent mister with a body is nothing but red crap!
pretty sure it's supposed to be
"unko shiKA TSUkurenai munou na ojisan to issho ni SHInai dene"
or "Don't put me together [literally or figuratively, like "categorize me with"] with mister who can only make poop!"

>mishter's an idiot!
correct

>>1479836

Do you have a website for download this one?

http://www4.uploader.jp/home/gy/

>>1480542

Thank very much !!

>>1479715

I love this artist.

Best Touhou doujin is best.

and this one I'm 99% sure I didn't fail at. the other two are corrections of previous versions.

>>1482207
i wounder how it would react if it was shown a recording of what it just did

>>1482300
>the other two are corrections of previous versions.
You never fixed Remiu

>>1481841

this is actually part of an ongoing story

anon had 2 pet yukkuri who gave birth to several koyukkuri

unfortunately the reimu died and the marisa was horrible, so he killed it off

he randomly picked up another marisa from the forest to play father to the koyukkuri but that one was horrible too

eventually he got a marisa that wasn't so bad and he kidnapped another reimu to play mother (after killing off reimu's family while she was asleep)

http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=249928

>>1482207

The Reimu in the last panels was saying "Another one is missing..." implying it's not the first one.

>>1482300

Second panel, Alice is saying
"Shomeone get idd [for me]!!"

Third panel ALice is saying
"How Marisha?
Don't be slow [take it easy] and tell me okay!"

Panel 4 Marisa's upper-left bubble should be
"Bear it easy okay!" or "Endure it easy okay!"

The rest is correct.

>>1482294
>i wounder how it would react if it was shown a recording of what it just did

"Mister, stop the bad Yukkuri eating Reimu's cute child!! Drop dead easy, okay!!!"

>>1484377

"REIBU'S CUDE BWABIIEEEEEEEEEE!!! ZDOP EADING ER!!!! MISHDER, MAGE ER ZDOPPPPP!!!!"

>>1480040
now show me the dead/injured/shocked/sad ones.

>>1484687
I can't. that's the only screenshot I have like that. No mod was released for those screenshots.

wait for it...

>>1484899

>>1482300
Are you going to correct that Chen one that had Alice and Reimu and a bully in it as well?

>>1485405
I can't preserve the pun in the last part, which kills the other half of the joke, seeing if there's some way to preserve it

and some random guy uploaded them which killed the point of not uploading them yet, oi

>>1485685

How about "I don't lol it-"

>>1485685
Is it a pun on "I get it" or "I don't get it"?

>>1486008

>>1485799
It's a pun on "I don't get it-"

it's usually
"Wakaranaiyo-"
but here he says "I'm not laughing" by saying
"Warawanaiyo-"

>>1481841

>>1486158

Well, for my love of puns, here goes.

"Hakurei Rape-u"

"Ehh, Get it?"

"There's nothing to get."

>>1486036
Awesome.

>>1480216 looks like a continuation of >>1485714, since both appeared almost simultaneously, could it be they're based on a story?

Either way, I made my own continuation too, in case this is just a one-shot.

>>1486604
Alice seems a little too intelligent with her speech, but that's pretty damn good. Clappity clap for you.

>>1486833
We've seen them not get pregnant many times. They grow a stalk that doesn't bear children, and it kills them

>>1485794

SHUN GOKU RAPETSU
AKUMALICE WINS

Original image.

>>1486877
Easily translated and edited version...that Alice seems abnormal...

>>1486888
It was Marisa all along.

>>1486858
That was kinda my point. Many times we've seen kos get "pregnant" with barren stalks and die. But haven't they all been from adult-on-ko rape? I've seen ko-ok-ko rape before, but >>1486604 is the first instance of ko-on-ko pregnancy that I can recall.

>>1486937
There are untranslated SFX in many images.

Let me post, Mr. Imageboard.

REMILIA.

WOO!

>>1487004
Lurk twice as hard, Anon.

http://jun.2chan.net/b/res/8957373.htm

>>1486604
Christ, those little ones must be the size of salt grains. And I'm pretty sure that baby yukkuris can't actually carry children to term anyway. But then, we've never actually seen a ko get pregnant from another ko before, have we?

>>1486897
Wait...aren't there untranslated SFX above Alice in that one?

koyukkuri are unable to reproduce

but it wont stop people from making mistakes

>>1486897
>>1486604 is also OC

Of course, there's no indication that the Marisa didn't get pregnant. The owner obviously immediately intervened. The problem is that stalk growth times vary greatly, even with the same artist. Hell, kome has koyukkuri grow to almost full size in under a minute; see http://yukkuri.shiteitte.net/post/view/1052

not to mention that underage sex usually kills BOTH of them

>>1486983
Where are you getting these? The filename suggests imageboard, but I don't even see it on Futaba

>>1486952
Why would underage sex kill the one on top? I really can't see it overexerting itself that much, and it wouldn't die from pregnancy

>>1487004

they get pregnant too by being mutually refreshed

although I must admit that all instances of those occurred by mutual rubbing

not the doggie style position Alice types seem to love

>>1487032
Damned cat thumbnails aren't big enough. Why the hell are there three threads?

>>1487025
Even with mutual rubbing, one of them is "on top" and doesn't get pregnant. It'd be ludicrious to have both of them get pregnant from a single intercourse. They can't forage for food when pregnant

I think you're taking yukkuri "biology" too seriously.

Take it easy!

>>1487250
Not biology, psychology.

Just think about it. They're supposed to be incredibly selfish. Children and families contradict this somewhat, but selfish parents can see themselves in their children and thus love them like they love themselves (That's my interpretation anyways, others disagree). That's reasonable. But when they DIE from getting refreshed ONCE... Now it's just bullshit. That's my main problem with kome's work. I'm pretty sure there are several images on his pixiv where a pregnant yukkuri dies from a single stalk. Why would an insanely selfish creature kill itself like that? If it had no concept of a self like a jellyfish or mantis or something I wouldn't object.
The double pregnancy is a similar issue. It's bullshit. They'd both kill themselves from starvation. And don't justify it with 'they're yukkuri. They're retarded'. That's not retardation, that's just suicide.

I could go and rant on how the authors just make up yukkuri details like this however they want, but I said I wouldn't several threads ago.

so long as entertainment outweighs "wtf that doesn't make sense", it's okay. Same rule of thumb for most fantasy/magic things.

that being said, I personally think >>1486604 makes too little sense

>>1487280
You do know that Yukkuris exists only in fandom?
Meaning authors can make them any way they like, such as making an Alice-type that is shy and seldom socialize and doesn't even have any urge to rape.
Or maybe Marisa-type that is incredibly caring and would sacrifice herself for the sake of others.
Or maybe even Reimu-types that has 50 arms.

>>1487280
>They're supposed to be incredibly selfish.
They're not supposed to be anything other than headblobs of Marisa and Reimu that says "Take it easy!".

I don't think they're even supposed to have bean paste filling.

>>1486894

I love these threads.

>>1487004
>>1487032
>>1487047

They have different threads for guro and non-guro yukkuri stuff, like pooshlmer.

>>1487047

having both of them pregnant is actually popular setting for many BAD END stories on waterducts

causes for double pregnancy usually include but not limited too:

1) too horny / caught up in the moment

2) overcompensation because they have experienced trauma. For instance, one pair just experienced their children being wiped out by a human. They managed to escape to their nest and was burdened by guilt.

3) Overconfidence. If there's soo much food already gathered and seemingly ideal conditions they will be tempted to do this. This usually happens to inexperienced pairs who survived their first winter and still have an abundant of food left.

>>1488385
I want to kill those two going after the butterfly.

>>1488479
Alice's are arrogant and think they are better than the other Country bumpkins, thus they come from "The City."

can someone tell me what "this city sect" thing is about?

Why are Marisa-types always such a peni-peni?

>>1486833

At first I was going to have Alice just eat Marisa in her sleep.

But then I thought it would be funnier if I took some liberties and imagined the yukkuri as young adults about 15-20 cm in diameter. Besides, that Taiyaki might have been drawn off scale- Marisa seems to take large bites of it, many times bigger than it's mouth, and devours about 1/4 th of it before both she and Alice get tired.

Way to go overanalyzing this.

I love this guy's work, it's so easy to edit

>>1488479
From Perfect Cherry Blossom:
>Marisa: it seems... comfortable here
>Alice: Do you find this brutal evening likable?
>Marisa: It isn't bad.
>Alice: Then surely you are a magician of the untamed fields.
>Marisa: As opposed to a magician from a greenhouse?
>Alice: As opposed to a magician from a city sect.

>>1488284
They actually do that frequently? Christ I thought it was only one example where the two of them give birth to 100 children, all but one dies (and the last is mentally scared by a human or something). Now for why I have a problem with it. Consider >>1488557. We have a creature so poorly conceived that it cannot survive a simple rain shower and is too incompetent to create it's own shelter from the rain. There is no way it could've survived on it's own, so what's the point in killing it? A lot of depictions of yukkuri (and many people talking about them here on /jp/) seem to treat yukkuri as things that exist only to be tortured and abused, and not things that try to live their own lives and just irritate humans. There is no sadistic pleasure to be had in torturing something that only exists to be tortured. They're like punching bags in those cases. Hitting them feels good only because it's exercise. Watching someone else hit a punching bag is just boring. A number of threads back someone said that in a good guro comic, the artist does his best to connect the victim to the reader to give the most emotional impact when they're tortured. There is no emotional connection to most yukkuri and they're also not very grotesque because it's just bean paste and (usually) not organs of any kind. Reading stories like that is just... boring.
I'm the author of the Paradise story I posted a while back. I did my absolute best to make the koreimu as cute as possible. The intention was "Adorable Reimu lives with her adorable family, winds up in a paradise, and dies from loneliness". I think I did a pretty good job of that, given that someone said "Dammit don't try to make me like these creatures". Most japanese authors seem to be content with just throwing on piles and piles of bean paste and not attempting to stir any kind of emotional response from the reader

>>1489569

You're missing the whole point of it, it is enjoyable because:
- Some like to see stupid characters suffer (ex: Looney Tunes)
- Some like cute characters
- Some like the drama(the family-centered stories)

There is a whole range of yukkuri abuse, from the "awww" inspiring, to the guro, to the emotional abuse of the Yuyuko comics. You are trying to be too analytical with this.

Go watch some of these until you can take it easy!

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=LRg158Fzxw0

>>1489814
Was never a huge fan of looney tunes, myself...

>- Some like cute characters
I like the cute images too.

>- Some like to see stupid characters suffer
Not me. I saw enough stupid people in high school (and on /jp/). I don't really want to see more, suffering or not.

>- Some like the drama
Not me, but I also can't think of any good examples.

>You are trying to be too analytical with this
Just the kind of person I am. I'm not good at suspending belief, and I honestly don't think I should have to. And because of it I just find many yukkuri stories terrible.

Most of the written ones are terrible. The ones that get drawn tend to be pretty good with the drama, though.

>>1489615
Could someone look at the translation for this? It looks right, but sounds funny when you read it.

yay more pixely guy. Does this guy have a name?

>>1490637
*KICK*
*SPLAT*

>>1491080
Oh please. The bad end couldn't be more obvious. The koreimu gets pregnant from the rubbing and dies.
Or maybe the two get horny while the child is between them like that and crush it during their sex. I wouldn't expect that as much, but it'd probably be better

sage

I guess it should be:

"Yukkuri dumplings.
Eat them slowly."

Most posters in yukkuri threads will get it. It won't be difficult to edit in either, and it makes the sentence sound normal.

>>1490637
Now 20% more funny.

>>1491078
yeah it was supposed to be "easy eating", but that kills how it's usually said, so I used "eat easy"

Try Wild Words. I'm guessing that's the font.

>>1489848
How does someone like you even envision the magical land of Gensokyo?

>>1491078

Slow dumplings
Eat them slowly

Remember, "easy" isn't a correct translation of "yukkuri", it just fits the "take it easy" phrase. Most of the Japanese jokes are about slow, not easy.

>>1491171
I have no problem with yukkuri being magically animated fully edible heads. What bothers me is how the authors just make up their own shit about yukkuri in order to torture them. That is what I attribute mammalian birth and penipeni to. You can't play baseball using the tendril method. You can't stomp a yukkuri's genitals if they don't have any.
I have no problem with Gensokyo. Sometimes with doujin authors. An analogy of my issue to regular Gensokyo would be like Remilia sometimes needing to drink blood in some doujinshi and being able to live off tomato juice in others, or Shanghai having her own personality in some doujinshi. Yes, it happens, and it bothers me, but not nearly as much as in yukkuri.

>>1491189
We've been over this. Someone posted the definition of 'yukkuri' and the second was essentially 'in a relaxed manner'. I would translate that as 'easy', not 'slowly'.

Can someone tell me what fonts are these?

>>1491399
I'm not disputing that a manju (and therefore a yukkuri) will dissolve in water. Hell I had some guy how long it would take for a manju about the size of a yukkuri to become soft enough that picking it up with tear it apart. That's not my issue.

My issue is this. (note that I'm only talking about wild yukkuri. Assume NO human intervention, not even a human house it could hide in)
They seem to be incapable of building a shelter that can withstand rainfall. I didn't mean immediately dig a hole, I mean build something so that should rain come, they can run there and be safe. The comic I linked to in that post showed that the Reimu's house was flooded. Given that their 'construction' abilities (outside of that one guy's comics) seems to be digging holes, it's surprising that they aren't shown flooded more often.
It was also discussed in an earlier thread that hiding under a tree really wouldn't save them. It could give brief protection from the rain, but it's still going to fall to the floor eventually and if the rain lasts longer than 20 minutes or so, it'll be just as wet under the tree as anywhere else.
Thus something as simple AND COMMON as a rainshower is as destructive as Ebola. They cannot survive without shelter from the rain, they cannot find shelter (for the most part. Maybe if they're really lucky), and they don't even seem to be able to build a shelter. How the fuck do any of them survive long enough to bear children?

And another oddity. Have you ever noticed how common single parent, single type families are? Where do the children come from? Was there a partner that it got separated from? Why weren't any yukkuri of the other type born? You really don't see Reimus breeding with Reimus. I can only think of one example of a yukkuri breeding with it's own kind.

>>1491216

Except most of the Japanese jokes are about slowly, not easy.

Slowly -> relaxed
Slowly -> slow
works in English as well, and

Easy -> relaxed
works, but
Easy -> slow
usually does not. Therefore, I think it is better to use "Slowly" until people get the "relaxed" part.

>>1491455


I'd say they're self aware. They're retarded in their own way, but they're obviously capable of human speech, something other animals aren't.

>>1491320

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>>1491228
>>1479789
Panel 3 of the left-hand comic puts a little dent in your "when not referring to the Yukkuri themselves, let's translate ゆっくり　as "slowly".

>>1491451
Actually, that depends somewhat on the density of the canopy. If they're in a forested area with undergrowth, there would be dry patches near the base of shrubs, especially dense ones. In fact, just about any plant that gets dense enough will create dry spots underneath it, as I've found with my garden. Of course, this is dependent on the ground in that spot being at least level, if not slightly raised. Otherwise, water from the outside will flow in.

But yeah, that's a weaksauce explanation. Of course, we're dealing with (arguably) sentient manjuu here, so it's no less absurd than their fictional existence.

>>1491228
>Slowly -> relaxed
I disagree.

Can't we just assume that anyone following these threads knows enough to realize that 'yukkuri' can mean both slowly and easy?

In that case, we should just leave it as "yukkuri". Have you noticed the Chinese comics leaving the Japanese phrase in place? At this point, I think people are familiar enough with ゆand ゆっくり to not need an ENglish transliteration.

>>1491527
I don't think they're swimmers, period. Every instance of them taking a bath on their own has been in extremely shallow water

>>1489615
Non-lettering, half of original size.
(pink-line is divide by jissouseki bounus' manga)

enjoy it. Yukkuirisitene!

While bringing up baths,


[Panel order is top-bottom, right to left]
Above the house: Reimu's house
Panel 1: "knock knock" ("Don don", anyway, not sure what else that would be)
Panel 2: Not really sure how to translate this, it's "ko-to", sound of putting a flat object and having one side hit the ground first.
Panel 3: "yawn~"
Panel 4:(Left to right) "Yu!" "Pyo~n"(sound effect of appearing)

>>1491415
Post it, haven't seen it before.

And still hoping someone can finish translating this one that has been partially translated.

>>1491552
This got a partial translation a while back, but I didn't save it. Why isn't it completely translated yet?

>>1491556
Original in case someone wants to look over what has already been done as well. I know the previous page had a number of mistakes, like "potato bugs" instead of "caterpillars".

>>1489569
That was you? I liked that story.

Also, it's not that the creature is poorly conceived in the example you're giving - it actually makes sense if you think about it. Yukkuri are manjuu, which means the outside is bread-like. If you leave a loaf of bread out in the rain, eventually it will get soggy to the point where it falls apart. Since yukkuri are motile and since they've got filling (and thus less bread to soak through), you'd expect that they'd be at risk of dissolving in rain. Furthermore, because they move by bouncing, the repeated impacts against the ground cause the bean paste (which, as I understand it, has the liquidity of toothpaste) inside to try to move outwards due to its momentum and the fact that it's a liquid and therefore deforms easily. The movement of bean paste is kept in check by the tension of the outside of the manjuu. If that's compromised due to the water softening it, it would be easy to force it to tear after just a few bounces.

That, in turn, explains why the yukkuri doesn't try to fashion a shelter to protect itself - it's probably going nuts with panic because it has a limited movement range before it loses structural integrity and splatters all over the ground. It's in a life-threatening situation and isn't thinking straight (not that yukkuri were big on thinking to begin with). Most people don't think straight in situations like that either, so it really isn't surprising.

Yukkuri are basically like rabbits: rabbits drop dead over just about everything, but they breed like mad and can have explosive population growth if left unchecked. Just ask the Australians.

Don't read too much into Yukkuri stuff.

I wrote a story about Yukkuri fondue, except I actually had them as bread talking, and never referred to them as 'yukkuri'. Just a normal feast on talking bread.

Did anyone save that?

>>1491399
>it's probably going nuts with panic because it has a limited movement range before it loses structural integrity and splatters all over the ground.
That would require the yukkuri to have a conscience of itself of a level I honestly put beyond their reasoning capabilities.

>>1489615
>>1489615
bigger pic, non-lettering
(pink-line?! divide from jissou-manga.)
enjoy it.

<<modify>>
ゆっくりギョ―ザ -> ゆっくりまんじゅう
ゆっくり食べてね!

>>1491425
Not really. If you want to go overboard and try to use evolutionary principles on yukkuri, it would probably be something instinctual. All the yukkuri in fanon that have had run-ins with water tend to be mortally afraid of it when it comes into contact with their "skin."

That reminds me of something I heard about cats: They're afraid of getting wet because when they're young kittens, getting soaked can lead to death through hypothermia. That instinct stays with them through adulthood.

>>1491451
Perhaps they are very good diggers. You don't see drown moles or flooded mole-holes very often.
About the natural shelters, I don't think it would be hard for them to invade pre-made shelters (rabbit holes, the previously mentioned mole-holes, etc.) and kick their owner.
Let's assume there's not even that: they would be most likely under cover of heavy trees. These trees would prevent floods and all that
Remove the trees. They are now in plain land. No holes, no way of digging one (incoming storm) and no trees to use as shelter. They are pretty much fucked.

>>1489615
bigger pic, non-lettering
(pink-line?! divide from jissou-manga.
>>1491078 was edited by another person. i allow.)
enjoy it.

<<modify>>
ゆっくりギョ―ザ -> ゆっくりまんじゅう
ゆっくり食べてね!

>>1491495
Trees wouldn't prevent flooding any better than soft ground. Even rain drops hitting them over an extended period of time will weaken them. They don't have to be soaking in water pools.

>I don't think it would be hard for them to invade pre-made shelters (rabbit holes, the previously mentioned mole-holes, etc.) and kick their owner
Aren't they a little big for that? I don't get out much so I could be wrong, but aren't rabbit and mole holes fucking tiny?

>Perhaps they are very good diggers. You don't see drown moles or flooded mole-holes very often.
Hmm. Good point. I suppose they could dig a roof over their heads protecting them from the rain, but I don't know how bad the flooding would be. They'd dig into the earth so water should be flowing in from the entry and probably even seeping in through the earth after a while.

Remember, it's not a drowning issue. If they're in water for an extended period of time, they'll just soak it up and become weak, and after long enough just disassociate.

>>1491484
As owner of two cats, I confirm this statement.
Some cats, however, like to take baths. Yukkuris are no exception, apparently.
With the exception that they will die if they can't get out of the water they got in. I don't think yukkuris are very good swimmers.

>>1491760
Not this shit again


>>1491750
>Rains, to me at least, seem like it would just act as a periodic total extinction of all wild yukkuri (pets would obviously be spared. most, anyways), not something like a famine, disease, etc, which would only wipe out a large portion of a population.
I really can't see a heavy rain being selective, but rather being complete annihilation for all yukkuri that aren't living with humans; and they wouldn't be allowed to make offspring to repopulate the wild.
Plus, issues like the rate of birth are debatable. Kome has them taking minutes. Clammbon's guide (pic) states about 2 weeks for birth. The old pet yukkuri guide by 3_8 gives a time of a little under 1 month. And how long does it take them to be old enough to give birth? There would have to be a pretty big drought for them to reach adulthood.

One of the key arguments I see in these Debates is that Yukkuri are often depicted as not being able to survive rain and predator attacks to the point where they can't possible exist.

WHICH IS WHY THEY PROBABLY DON'T EXIST

HURR...

waterducts reader here

yukkuri survive by numbers
they reproduce very easily

light rain doesn't kill them, but continuous exposure will melt them down gradually. Sometimes they'll just wait under trees because typically the rain will go away after an hour or so.

yukkuri do in fact, look for nests and places where they can take it easy from environmental hazards

in their own language it's called their "yukkuri place"

they're also very territorial about it and lethal disputes over territory is common

yukkuri know some things instinctively. ie: water is dangerous, remirya is dangerous, and marisa types know from birth how to cross rivers using their hats.

>>1491599
Vampires are commonly depicted as being capable of surviving hazards. Does that mean they exist?

>>1491608
If there was a huge downpour, say, heavy rains for over an hour, would it kill off all the wild yukkuri? Taking shelter under trees wouldn't protect them from that and a hole in the ground would probably just get flooded. Rains, to me at least, seem like it would just act as a periodic total extinction of all wild yukkuri (pets would obviously be spared. most, anyways), not something like a famine, disease, etc, which would only wipe out a large portion of a population.

>>1491729

Ah, are you the original artist? If so, pic related (I think).

And I guess the new text provided needs a translation. Anyone wanna give it a shot?

>>1491647
>Vampires are commonly depicted as being capable of surviving hazards. Does that mean they exist?

No, but if they did, they probably still would exist, because they'd be able to survive hazards.

See how that works out?

>>1491706
You're restating the point I've been trying to make, and yet I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not.

>>1491955
The original had that, I believe.

I think I'm disagreeing with you. What I'm trying to say is that it's pointless to argue about if Yukkuri could survive or not Because if they had existed, they don't anymore. And because they don't exist, it's pointless to argue.

Why do we have to worry about the survival of something that's already died out a long time ago if it actually existed in the first place?

>>1491731
> if it actually existed in the first place?
because I am in no way arguing that yukkuri have ever existed in the real world. I hope you don't think I am. The fact that they exist in the yukkuri fanon world is completely indesputable, however. Just look at any yukkuri image; that alone gives them existence in their own corner of fantasy. And yet, they shouldn't still exist.

it's simple. many die, but many more are born. it doesn't matter if half of them die every time it rains hard, because they can double their numbers back just as quickly. gestation periods are typically around one week anyways. They grow a stalk within hours.

>>1491731

Because we would wish to recreate them to solve world hunger.
They can live off sugar-water and can reproduce in hours.
They could be used in goddamn space exploration for easy nutrition.

>>1491882
yes. ( http://jissou.sytes.net/bbs_up/potiboard.php?res=11008#11008))
i allow that post freely. trans freely.
thx see&trans.^^)/

>>1491552
>>1491560
It was completely translated.
Editing it is annoying though, flipping through shiteitte.net, I don't think anyone else actually does redraws on any color ones
I put them together anyways

this kinda nest doesn't require all that much building

>>1491882
>>1491729

Japanese yukkuri artists go on /jp/ yukkuri threads?

>>1491792
But the point is that there's enough of them so that a good number will find the right conditions for their survival. They can produce a stalk at least every 2 weeks, consisting of at least 4 babies. Given food and a decent home, they can easily produce a hundred babies a year, even if 30 are crushed, 30 melt to rain, and 30 die to remiryas, that's still 10 every year that can go find another yukkuri place with a decent amount of food and shelter. a 10% survival rate isn't hard to imagine. Heavy rain will kill most yukkuri that don't have a home, but the one's wandering about without a home are mostly dead anyways.

They find a yukkuri place, flourish, then legions of thier children go out to find another yukkuri place, and most of them die. But a couple will find one, and repeat the cycle. Old places should get repopulated by new pairs relatively easily too.

>>1491882
>bounus

wat

>>1491729
>>1491882
new text is just
yukkuri dumpling -> yukkuri manju (bun)

>>1491956
Again, I don't see their yukkuri places as being very effective against rain. Is >>1488557 just a huge exception?

If they aren't capable of getting a good shelter, 10% is way too high. If they can, then 10% is probably low. Also, if an area's population is decimated through any widespread event, be it rain, humans, lack of food, etc, it simply will never be inhabited by yukkuri. Try to imagine humans surviving in alaska if they couldn't build houses for whatever reason. Trying again won't help; they simply cannot live there.

I've never read about rain overrunning nests on waterducts

only infiltration by predators

So I'd say yes. A yukkuri place is generally secure from enviromental hazards.

>>1492017
Any examples of them actually being protected from a heavy rain? The authors could just be avoiding/not thinking of the issue.

>>1492003
Stand under tree
????
SAFE FROM RAIN

Not difficult.

No, there are comics where the nest is flooded. Good nests are supposed to be built so water drains away, but not all of them make good nests.

>>1492041
Go test that theory next time it rains hard. Go run outside and find what you think would be a good shelter from the rain; be it a single big tree or a huge forest. You will get wet on the way, of course. If you are able to be protected enough for your body heat to dry you off throughout the rain, (yukkuri have high regeneration; I see no reason for this not to apply to water damage as well) then your idea works. But if you keep getting dripped on, or if you're forced to stand in a puddle/muddy water, you lose.

/jp/ - Yukkuri

well, like ants, or bees, or most insects. They find a good place to nest, then produce a whole bunch of new queens. Most die. A few find a new good place to nest. Repeat.

Yukkuri find a good place to nest, then produce a whole bunch of new yukkuri. Most die (BAD END stories). A few find a new good place to nest. Repeat.

>>1492031

many stories with a heavy rain setting takes place within a cave or a hole

the rain never kills them

>>1492088
There's no way they could dig a cave on their own, so that'd just be extraordinary luck. But holes don't normally flood like in >>1488557 ? Seems odd to me. I'd just assume that water would freely go down the enterance and even drop in through the dirt ceiling.

>>1492137
Awesome. Thank you.

>>1492108

tl;dr: I am a complete newfag who has never seen any of the comics where they build their own nests

>>1491950
looks corean to me

>>1492062
They're able to take a small amount of water hitting them over time.

Heavy downpour is dangerous, but even the light amount that gets through trees/bushes/etc. is fine.

From what I've seen, anyway.

>>1492160
trees will protect them for a period of time, yes, but not after the leaves get wet enough. Haven't you ever walked under a tree in the middle of a long rain? You'll still get wet.

>>1492156
I am saying that their nests are useless, or at least should be from how they're made.

they're buns
just think of how much water will destroy a bun, and that's it. Most buns will survive being damp or even somewhat soggy. Rain won't immediately destroy that sub you're eating. hell, if you left a hunk of bread under a tree, it would generally still be okay through most light-medium rainfalls.

Yukkuri nest-building comics

http://yukkuri.shiteitte.net/post/view/413
http://yukkuri.shiteitte.net/post/view/150
http://yukkuri.shiteitte.net/post/view/695
http://yukkuri.shiteitte.net/post/list/yukkuri_nest_hole/1

nest flooding:
http://yukkuri.shiteitte.net/post/view/828
http://yukkuri.shiteitte.net/post/view/597

How much rain can they stand:
http://yukkuri.shiteitte.net/post/view/202

btw, there's an alternate fanon where they aren't affected by rain at all(more than any other animal at least), or at least don't melt. You see it often in stories where they're left out in a cardboard box, like a litter of kittens.

new thread
>>1492200

>>1492190
>>1492166

I'm not counting any of that guy's work in this discussion because he also did http://yukkuri.shiteitte.net/post/view/695?search=yukkuri_nest_hole and similar, and I'm sure that's way too complicated for a yukkuri to pull off, or even be willing to try. As for >>1492166 it doesn't seem complicated, but remember that yukkuri don't have hands. I can't see them being able to lay sticks and leaves down thick enough to create a water proof layer with just their mouth.

>btw, there's an alternate fanon where they aren't affected by rain at all
Let's not go there.

>>1492189
Again, I'm only talking about hard rains, not simple light ones. One as hard as http://yukkuri.shiteitte.net/post/view/202 in the final panel and lasting for 30-45 minutes minimum. I don't live in japan and thus don't know what their weather is like first hand, but there's no way they only get light rains.
Plus, I did already say that they're expected to survive 10 minutes in water. Probably a bit less in direct exposure to heavy rain though

>>1492003
>Is >>1488557 just a huge exception?
D'oh. Just look at the comic.

Reimu is still okay, and as shown on the next page even manages to travel to the next dwelling.
So it must have been just a couple of minutes of light rainfall.

Look at the hole. It's completly flooded, suggesting water at least a couple centimeters deep.

Where did that water come from? It didn't fall from the sky through the enterance (because if the rain was so heavy the Reimu would be soaked.)

A couple theories arise:
1) The nest was built in a particularly bad location.
Like the bottom of a slope (it's not clear from the image, but there may be a stream of water flowing into the hole.).
Perhaps the geological condions conspired(or were arranged by someone) to create a periodic spring inside the nest: layers of clay, sand and gravel arranged so that with moderate rainfall the water from several hundred square meters quickly flows into the nest.
2) Someone put the water there.

Neither of these is actually a common occurence, so while this particular nest was destroyed, thousands of others survived the rain just fine.