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what's the easiest iidx 10?

It took me so long to find out that the DDR machines in round-1s are fucking fakes....


I've been paying money this whole time to play on a stepmania machine unless I misunderstood. I'm assuming the ddr x2 machines are not real, I guess all the songs being available should have given it away

What rhythm games do you guys have the most fun with?

I personally have the most fun with pop'n and stepmania (pad and keyboard)

I like SDVX but why is this allowed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uyCaMr70dQ&t=1m46s

>>14822346
For me it's Pendual by far. I passed almost every 9 with A on my first try and passed a good quantity of 10s. In most other styles, aside from styles I played too much like Lincle and Tricoro, I can't even beat half of the 9s with A

>>14822346
Elisha, feels like an 8

>>14822346
>>14822422
Misread, I tought you were saying IIDX 10 was the easiest style. Like the other anon said, Elisha is piss easy. The first 10 I passed was drive me crazy but maybe it was easy because I had heard the song a hundred times

>>14822346
elisha, new sensation and that sirius piano song that isn't g59 are all pretty easy

is psun not working for anyone else

>>14822550
Network Service OK

>>14822346
sequence cat

verflucht

i wish i could torrent a DAO

where can I download skill?

>that tuxdude coming of age vip thread

I know you shitpost here. This anonymous is proud of you.

>>14822733
is verflucht really an easy 10? i consider it one of the harder ones

How do I get a psun invite?

>>14823038
it's a subjective thing. but i consider it easy because i havent failed it any time ive tried since i started slowly clearing 10s. i actually had more trouble with elisha.

i have 25 easy 12s cleared and i feel like i can't progress anymore playing only one hour a day

>>14823602
you have to play two hours a day now

I can't connect to psun anymore, is this happening to anyone else?
How am i supposed to play data

i made these for my sows avatar but the moment i finished them i changed my mind so I'll just leave them here if you want them

>>14823933
make them nude

>>14823977
seconding

>>14822346
Fire Fire was the first 10 I cleared.
It's an 8 in density with some scratches here and there.
Bitter Chocolate Striker is pretty good, too.
One step higher than that, there's Thor's Hammer, neu and Xepher.

Took me about 40 tries to get this. Would've taken a lot less had I not been choking on dicks this entire time.

Also to the faggot from the last thread: the timing windows are as accurate as possible, and what isn't possible (more lenient early Great and Good) is made stricter for fairness. I know it's still not a perfect emulation, but it's as good as I could've gotten without reprogramming Stepmania myself. Every other "feature" you've listed is cosmetic garbage not pertaining to the actual gameplay. Your concerns about corrupting muh pure DDR gameplay spirit are unfounded as it's entirely down to Bemani's stepchart makers to choose how each one should look and what extra features give it.

I for one would love some kind of new gamemode with stepchart randomization that changes the patterns on each consecutive playthrough while accounting for all technically difficult stuff like crossovers, doublesteps and stepjumps in order to keep the difficulty consistent while forcing the player to quickly read and adapt instead of just memorising everything. Official SRT courses with visual chart obstructions would've also been nice, I'm tired of playing the same material done by the raging furfag and Undertale-loving autist all over again.

>>14823977

Over 50 tries spread throughout the last two weeks. Last 20 weren't even stamina, I'm just really bad at long streams. Horrible score too, but at some point I stopped caring about accuracy. This was the last ITG chart that's doable for me, Bloodrush and ITG 13s won't be for a very long time.

I'd love to write some sort of neutral comparison of DDR and ITG charts once I git gud enough to actually pass the more difficult ones without looking like a total scrub. For now almost everything I've passed looks sub-17, with some possible exceptions like Determinator, Euphoria and this piece of shit. Then again MAXX Unlimited itself looks like a 15 while PSM C seemed harder than any ITG chart I've passed.

>>14825730
not that anon but I think he was just shitting on you for using stepmania instead of ACData

I don't necessarily agree with him on all of his points in terms of stepmania vs DDR etc. but if you're going to theme it/try to emulate DDR you might as well just play the real deal.

>>14825971
I was playing OpenITG before switching to SM5 with DDR timing and scoring this year. The only reason I did this in the first place was me getting tired of ITG's excessive 320ms freeze grace trivialising freeze-heavy charts.
I'm too lazy to bother with all the garbage coming with the actual DDR game. Besides there are some features I'd like to code into SM in the future that obviously won't be present in DDR anytime soon.

>>14825903
>PSM C

Isn't is usually called PSMO?

i wonder if we'll get copula now that tau's done

>>14825971
ddr ac data is shit compared to stepmania, transparent arrows on my gpu, having to wait every 3 songs or after failing, can only adjust speed in 0.5 increments, no cmod, no shitty ziv simfiles for hours of entertainment, no simply love and having to adjust offset manually. Only good thing in ac data was nusP when it still existed.

>>14822346

My first 10 was MINT. It's only challenging in the middle and it gives you enough easy shit to build back up to 80% by the end.

>>14822309
lol japan and their fancy toilets.

Is there any AC Data torrent I can use a FL Token on? I can't seem to find anything not ancient.

And are there set "Freeleech holidays" I can count on or do they mostly just come and go at the staff's discretion?

>>14826664
Nope. Tokens don't work on data.

Are Sota and Nekomata the last good IIDX artists?

Who in the fuck thought Miracle 5ympho X was a 10?

That song is easily a hard 11. It's got basically every single pain in the ass parts of IIDX.

>>14827007
It's more like an easy 11 desu

>>14827081
it's more like a hard 10 desu senpai

>>14826974
what about prim

>>14827393
Prim is junk food

it's fine to indulge in a bit as long as your entire diet/songlist isn't made of it

Then again I unironically enjoy m1dy in IIDX so I probably shouldn't make too many judgements on this

>>14826974
someday in the future camellia will become an IIDX artist

>>14826664
Valentine's day and christmas are always guarenteed freeleech.

DOWNTIME PARTY

>>14826974
Nah that would be Nekomata and Totto

I basically just play LR2 because psun is never fucking up

What timing offset do you people use for LR2? I feel like I'm doing shit tragically wrong.

I have it set to +75ms and DARQS says he uses his on 0. I don't even know anymore.

>>14827747
Offset is there to adjust the variable timing and latency between different systems.

Mine is on something like +89.

>>14825730
>>14826028
>>14826559
If you don't want to bother with "the garbage coming with the actual DDR game", why would you use this theme specifically? There are themes much better than this, and I'm not saying this because this theme is ok and others are better. I'm saying this because this theme is shit and others are ok/good.
This theme tries to imitate AC while failing at it, so it's got the advantages of neither stepmania nor AC, be it stuff like increments in speed/cmod (you cannot choose them precisely with this theme), gameplay elements (ex: no attacks), or even "garbage" from AC (ex: result screen asking up/left/right/down to see stats when AC asks left/right so you don't change screen by mistake). If it's the timing windows you are worried about, just edit the preferences file yourself.

>>14826974
New artists will make nice stuff to compensate, r-right?

when the HELL is hinabita coming to iidx
when the HELL is goli gonna do doujins
why the HELL is there no art of the gitadora girls

>>14827431
>>14826974
>>14827683
>>14827943

What do people have against L.E.D.? Easily my favorite of who's left.

Unless he left, which is possible.

>>14828156
>when the HELL is hinabita coming to iidx
never

How High is the Skill Ceiling in SDVX/KShoot Mania?

Why do some osu mania players keep grinding very easy songs (like, less than 3 stars/auto converts) trying to get #1 in the leaderboards? Isn't it better to farm hard shit to get pp or whatever?

>>14828634
as high as you want with stupid crossovers and unreadable knob traps

However the curve is much gentler than IIDX on the way to to 14/15's, you'll get there much faster than getting to 11/12 in IIDX.

>>14828662
1st place record dickwagging

>>14828662
For the sole reason of saying "I have first place on this song"

>>14828795
Listen to this guy.

In SDVX it took me less than a week to get from 8s to 14s

>>14828955
>>14828881

but how's that useful? no one is even going to know you have it unless they specifically look for it, and it doesn't give you any pp for the leaderboards

I mean, people spend like, 3-4h straight everyday grinding this shit

I thought it had some other reason, like acc training maybe idk (although I think there are more effective ways to train this sort of shit)

>>14828970
You have a list of first place songs
thats it
the satisfaction (No matter how little it is) they get from it is why they do it

>>14828956
Yeah, I went from 0-11 in about 3 months, got stuck, then suddenly improved to clear every 13, then I got stuck on 14's, then my shitty homebuilt controller's knobs finally shit the bed.

But learning how to recognize patterns at the 14 level is really what was difficult for me, just changing from reading knobs as "keep your hand on this knob until it disappears" to "only move to this knob when it changes position" was really fucking me over.

>>14828970

There's like a handful of guys who autistically get 1,000,000 on every convert that is released.
There's no point in trying.

The constant pp dickwagging was a big reason why i stopped playing osumania, once you start playing just to improve yourself by your own standards it's more fulfilling and enjoyable. Also iidx is a lot more fun

>>14828586
that's what everyone thought about touhou

What games can I play on a shit laptop keyboard with nothing more than 2 key rollover?

>>14830048
Index Stepmania

>>14830060
Got it, thanks

Rec packs for Kshoot?

>>14830048
Funnily enough, I can actually play LR2 and press 7k simultaneously on a laptop, but it takes a rather spread out key config.

Test out random combos using https://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/KeyboardGhostingDemo.mspx

>>14830303
K-Transcendence, Selection Pack, the Anime packs. They're all close to or better than SDVX quality IMO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH8wJZ1_v68
>old DanEvo tournaments
>awesome candidates with actual dancing talent playing stylish stages that suit them well
>captivates the public by their performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L7klnu1JCg
>recent DanEvo tournaments
>faggots dancing on girlish denpa shit and gay cosplayers
>huge crowd but no one is applauding because spaghetti
What has DanEvo become?

>>14831041
but CKP is my favourite hinabita song

>>14831156
I enjoy 滅びに至るエランプシス a little more actually

why is the copula ost so loud jesus fuck

>>14827930
I was talking about simply love, not that horrible skin lol, that can burn in hell

>>14831156
>>14831349
Mine is 激アツマジヤバチアガール

why can't PENDUAL Present just remain forever

>>14831827
It's true it was nice, but I like copula too. It's got satisfying menu sounds.

>>14831827
Tricoro 4 lyfe

>>14832153
minus the deafening song select sound

Just moved from Tricoro to Pendual

What are some of the funnest 8s and 9s from Spada and Pendual?

>>14832221
line 4 ruin from pendual
also
>funnest

>>14832221
m1dy deluxe

m1dy deluxe

m1dy deluxe

>>14832221
A CS revival, but Recollection is very good.

Minus that one part.

>>14832221
Not an 8 or 9, but In Motion [a] is so fucking good. Probably the only good Ryu song in the entire IIDX song library.

>>14832669
in the sky is really fun and a 9 too

>>14822365
what do you mean by fakes?
konami sells those machines to them???

>>14822365
If you weren't even able to notice, why do you care
It's the same shit

>average IIDX player

>>14833276
Cute.

>>14833276
I really don't understand the appeal of those things, they're so fucking weirdly shaped so you couldn't really do anything with them beyond treating them like a big plug
I feel like they're more a novelty than anything

It's kinda like apple shit, it's all branding

>>14833313
furry shit and /v/ memes are the appeal of them

>>14833276
If that's what it takes to be Kaiden then i'm in.

>>14833313

The size would fit for a cross dresser doing anal, yes?

>>14833387
the person who posted that on /v/ said they can only clear 6s

>>14833276
just a wannabe.

>>14833276

>that totally obviously manly calf beneath the socks

why does this community have so many fucking delusional tranny faggots

>>14834040
because rhythm games are for autists
why do you think there are so many furfags in this community as well?

Are the pendual bms up from download anywhere outside of sows, only have lr2.

>>14834367
sows has pendual bms but half the songs are missing.
i don't think anyone's worked on it at all really.

>>14834394
I'm not in sows at all, but honestly the only song I need from pendual is Nigh Sky - USAO. Yes I got shit taste but is that song in bms anywhere?

>>14834410
http://www.mediafire.com/download/du30sr7jlr15auf/PENDUAL.rar
all bms from the pendual ost, no background video, no keysounds.
night sky is in there at least.

>>14834436
Awesome, thank you.

>>14832221
>>14832350
Aside from m1dy deluxe's stupid scratch section

Routing is good.

Invitation from Mr C is good.

So how would I go about getting a sows invite? Doesn't exactly seem too welcoming to new people.

>>14834662
cum on mayumi right here and post email

alternatively just go to IRC, lurk, send a drawing of cindy, include email.

>>14834662
if you have invites to other private trackers you can offer trades

>>14834662
Newcomers are more than welcome, what we don't welcome is people who come in with intentions of breaking the rules.
Check the IRC out and send a cindy drawing like it has been said already, you could also post your reason to want to join here along with your email and someone might consider inviting you.

>>14834662

Prolly not worth your time. I've been on there for over three months and I have only downloaded one thing I really care about.

Only thing people go there for is arcade data and until you have 25 GBs of upload, you can't download them, making the site essentially worthless. I'm still 10 GBs shy of being able to because no one downloads anything but the shit I can't download to seed in the first place.

Unless you're not an idiot like me and realize sooner that this doesn't apply to freeleeches

>>14834768
The site is worth it if you actually want to discuss more in depth about rhythm games (or if you're autistic, but that's pretty much all of us in the site)

>>14834768
Your post made me think about this: what would happen if I downloaded non-stop from the freeleech torrent the least seeded that you have? Wouldn't you be able to get virtually infinite upload like this? Would this be even allowed?

>>14834768
Well, not sure where else I'd get SDVX.

>>14834664
>>14834716
Hmm, I see. Fair enough.
Worth a shot I suppose: signmeupdog@yahoo.com

Cheers for the responses.

>>14834824
You are indeed allowed to have 0 download and as much upload as you want, this makes your ratio stay on infinite.

>>14834968
You misunderstood what I was saying. I was saying this: I download, let's say, office 2007, that you are seeding. When the download is finished, I delete the data that I downloaded, to re-download it again (rinse and repeat). This way, you upload continuously data to me and increase your UP amount faster. Meanwhile, I don't increase my DL because the torrent is freeleech. The goal being you having an incredibly high UP amount in a short amount of time.

>>14834866
>not sure where else I'd get SDVX
Search more, there are ways to get bemani outside of sows.

>>14835022
yeah but thanks to the way the torrent system works you'll probably download from whoever has the highest upload to you, and considering that almost everyone has the freelech torrents downloaded the actual data you'll get from your friend is not too much.

You could technically get around it by blacklisting all the ip's in the peers list that aren't your friend, but why waste the time? Sows is piss easy to get ratio on anyway.

>>14835022

You could waste time doing that or you could just use the website normally for like 2 weeks and get power user

>>14827007
>hard 11
and you lost me, I agree it's an 11 but nowhere near a hard 11.

>>14827415
what's wrong with m1dy

>>14835378
I don't like how every single song so far has been so masturbatory with the word "m1dy" itself being part of the titles and included as samples.

I love the HANDS UP IN THE AIR, it hypes me up for DDR A.

>>14834662
>doesn't seem welcoming to new people

This gets said from time to time but I'm not sure if it's just people who aren't used to private trackers or if they legitimately believe this. Sure, it doesn't have an application system like some other trackers (rarely) have open, and it doesn't have what's interview system, but most private trackers don't have these things. There are clear cut ways to getting in. It only took me two days on IRC and a single email for me to get in. Probably could've taken less if I was more proactive.

In other words, lurk more faggot, and read the archives, this has been asked a million times.

>tfw 6th dan

>>14837179
>mfw Kaiden

>>14837179
>tfw 5th dan

it's okay anon

>>14837188
only 9th dan and already feeling like this

>last chorus of the song is way harder for no reason

why is this allowed?

>>14822346
Elisha

>>14837451
So you fail the song and have to pay more money to play, although it gets really fucking stupid at points (ahem, I was the one another).

It's an arcade game, after all.

This is why some songs are actually easier on Hard.

>>14837637
I can almost FC most of Hollywood Galaxy DJ Nagai remix, but end up failing the entire end section.

>>14838013
But the middle and ending are practically identical.

>>14838094
The extra scratches fuck me up.

>>14838189
I wouldn't expect anyone that "can almost FC most of Hollywood Galaxy DJ Nagai remix" would struggle with a few extra scratches.

>>14838372
I'm talking about the Hyper chart by the way, no the Another.

>>14838094

Where can I find these charts? I've been meaning to ask.

>>14838590
http://textage.cc/score/index.html?a011B00

It's often not entirely accurate when it comes to the timing, but it's overall pretty good.

>>14837188

Yeah I can't wait until i'm soullessly clearing 12s

So, what's the origin of the term "noodles"?

>>14839146
Just look at them. It should be obvious why people just started calling them noodles.

Similarly, streams are named because they appear as a stream of notes.

t+pazolite - Renegade Fruits

What the fuck is this, it's not in the game.

Do any of you use that DJ DAO controller or that beatmania ps2 one?


Is the controller bundled with the beatmania ps2 game any good? I want to grab that djdao one but shit is expensive for a beginner...

>>14839761
>Is the controller bundled with the beatmania ps2 game any good?
yeah it works fine, but good luck finding one for a reasonable price.

>>14839805
Yeah I was on eBay just now...

Damn they're pricey too I was thinking of grabbing the ps2 controller and importing games too, didn't think they were costly to this day

>>14839972
>importing games
lol

burn that shit, no one pays $200 for empress

bsb grv chart when

>>14840107
infinite knob snaps, forever and ever

>>14840000
Empress?

I'll need to mod a ps2 in order to play burned games, which I'll probably end up doing at this point


Would've been nice to own physical copies of all these iidx ps2 mixes

Why did the us only get one beatmania when Japan has several mixes?

>>14840281
Because it's niche as fuck. Even in Japan the PS2 titles only sold about 30k each.

>>14837179
>tfw 6th dan
>tfw all those Prim songs

>>14840475
When the fuck is L.E.D. going to make a Prim album?
I need the long versions and wac/Nekomata remixes.
https://youtu.be/lv7DWjnGq2w

>>14840364
>Because it's niche as fuck
Because controllers are expensive and rare as fuck. Their own fault or more likely intention. Don't want to endanger their precious arcades.

I finally figured out why beatmania and early IIDX styles feel so much comfier: the keysounds are proper samples rather than a 1/1000th piece of the song.

>>14840896
Isn't this just a sped up Koisuru uchuu sensou with some extra bits?

>>14840896
>>14842456

>>14840364
>>14840910
>Implying the japs are business savvy

Look at Nintendo, they still aren't capable of properly releasing their games and allow scalpers to dominate their market. It's as if the Japanese are incapable of doing something right when it comes to sales or properly treating the other markets outside of fucking Japan. Nintendo continues to treat their western market like shit with these awful boxed releases

I wouldn't be surprised if they did that in order to keep the arcade sales untouched. Those assholes should've focused on the western market and pushed beatmania over here considering how popular it was around 2008-09

>>14842456

It's a remix senpai

>>14842448

What style did they stop using the samples?

>>14839761
The official PS2 controller works fine for playing the CS games, but if you're planning to use it on your computer expect lag.
If you're lucky enough to acquire a cheap controller, you can buy a modded PS2 memory card for like $10 so you can play the japanese CS games.

why did poopn throw an error all of a sudden although i can still play pendual

>>14838440
scrub

>>14843194
lurk more on pigs

>>14843194
all psun servers apart from IIDX are currently down.

>>14843353
shit I didn't know there are -separate- servers for the games

how often does DAO have special sales, if ever? I can't even afford an FPS due to the shipping cost

>>14844660
They have a sale that lasts until like next year.

Check the US warehouse, although there's no customization, so you'll have to buy your own microswitches to replace the honeywells.

>>14844672
They only stock the FP7 though, and after buying aftermarket Omrons the total cost will be the same as just buying an FPS with Omrons anyways.

>>14844701
What's got you going for an FPS? Are you really tight on space?

>>14844728
>tight on space
Not necessarily, but I do think the FP7 is pretty bulky. From someone using a USKOC, I much prefer the lower-profile build of the FPS. The ability to change between KOC <-> AC turntable spacing is a plus.

>mechacrash and mouseish selling most of their bemani setups
kek, I knew this would happen some day. that's what you get for going way overboard like they did

>tfw iidx is starting to feel like a chore

Are arcin boards still worth it if you have one of the newer Dao boards? Thinking about preordering one.

>>14845136
Only if you really want game controlled lighting

How's the timing on Voltex? It looks like it's way more forgiving than IIDX.

>>14845386
That's because it is

>>14845386
probably like jubeat timing or something

much wider than IIDX, maybe about 4 frames

>>14845386
Voltex probably has the loosest timing of all the scrolling note bemani games, people regularly max score 15s

about IIDX: is it just me or is CS timing stricter than AC timing? I am using USKOC on both and have trouble getting even A's on CS after playing on data for a while.

>>14843165
Hey thanks for the reply I searched online after my post and saw exactly what you posted

I was planning on playing on my ps2 anyway because I expected there would be problems on pc due to having to use adapters etc

>>14845720
You may just be having an issue with the last of fast/slow indicator, and having way too many of one versus the other.

>>14846135
cs doesnt have one senpai

>>14850228
>lack of fast/slow

I think that was a typo on his end.

>>14843110

they switched from handmade keysound sample timing to a DAC plugin around uhh DistorteD i think

>>14850962
Why though-?

>>14851161
DELETE THIS

>>14851183

>>14851191
OH GOD WHY????

>>14851191

>>14851161
Im going to get banned for this but whatever, its lewd

>>14850242
oops i seem to do that more often than i should

>>14851191
>>14851161
That's kinda hot

>>14851161
>>14851191
Cute things are my one weakness. Welp.

>>14851161
>>14851191
I am extremely turned on.

>>14845061
MechaCrash here.
I've come to learn that I don't really have any interest in jubeat, so that's why I initially felt like selling that. Thing is, I only play IIDX right now, and only have room for jubeat, reflec beat and IIDX to be set up - everything else is in storage.

Considering I'm struggling for money, I figure, sell them off for a reasonable price, and just buy them again in the future (when my money and space issues are alleviated).

I absolutely bought too much too quickly, but I had fun playing everything :)

Also I'm only selling 3 of my setups. I Stoll have DDR, Taiko, GFDM, IIDX, reflec, and countless console games. I dont just play bemani

>>14852709
>Average BEMANI player

>>14851294
>>14851324
Sexier than
>>14851161
>>14851191
DESU

>>14852709
>failing any chart in jubeat ever
pathetic

>>14851191

>>14851161
>>14851191
Mimi is my wife

>>14853956
hi nyami

SDVX scrub who wants to get into more Bemani here. Looking at Jubeat and IIDX ASCs atm. I enjoy Jubeat more than I enjoy IIDX, but it seems like IIDX might be a better game to get into long term. Advice?

>>14854675
IIDX. Jubeat is too easy.

>>14853828
I want to bend Meu Meu over and BRUTALIZE her tight 14-year-old cunny until my shaft is covered in blood!

>>14854675
IIDX has a lot more replayability

>>14854675
This
>>14854816
because this
>>14854688

>>14854675
get iidx it's a far better home setup

After having gone through all the chemo for my eventual recovery of cancer (osu!)
I've been trying to become a better person. Enjoy life more, you know. Osu! was only
getting me sicker, so after seeing IIDX, SDVX, PnM, jubeat I was falling into the world of
the real rhythm games and I knew what my goal in life was: Play these games until my
hands bleed and I die of starvation from playing hours on end.

I'm planning on getting a controller(s) and already have a good seedbox in my sight. So I'm
armed and ready to beat the mea... I mean beat the mania!

tl dr; I'm well equiped to seed until my dick falls off and will stay active until the end of days!

>>14855009
who is your seedbox with?
do you have proofs from other private trackers of any repute?
do you use μtorrent?

>>14855020
The seedbox I was talking about is seedbox.io.

At the moment I haven't had the chance to be part of any other private trackers, but like they say: you gotta start somewhere. And what better community then this one, am I right?

Only for public trackers, grabbing an innocent quick torrent (piracy laws aren't as strict in my country so I'm good) .

>>14855160
yeah sorry man, i wont invite you.

seedbox.io are pretty terrible, they have massive I/O throughput issues, their "gigabit" is massively over saturated and their slots are oversold.

just take the what.cd interview, its easy and you learn a lot, either that or join animebytes.

μtorrent is a torrent client with severe CVE's, it is insecure and damaging to the swarm, oh, its also bundled with malware and closed source.

>>14855185
Please do not use the term "closed source" to describe nonfree software. It makes the suggestion that the better option would be for the software to be "open source". However, the arguments for "open source" software are based solely on its practical value to its creators, ignoring the fact that free software is an ethical imperative regardless of practical value.

>>14855251
eat shit stallman

>>14855185
I understand where you're coming from, but you can also (like you did) point me in the right direction. I've heard good things about the seedbox, guess that wasn't really true.
But at the end of the day, I could prove myself as a loyal seeder and active member helping out others. I mean quit using utorrent and start using a better seedbox, should be a peace of cake.

Got bored with grinding FCs on old ~14/15s and got this on 8th try instead. Is this really supposed to be an 18? I take it the ending of the deathstream is absurd, but I could probably find some cheesy note-swapping strat to make an FC hypothetically possible for me.

And holy fuck Fascination MAXX is difficult as hell, even on Expert.

>>14842692
>Those assholes should've focused on the western market and pushed beatmania over here considering how popular it was around 2008-09

>Implying they didn't handwave the fuckload of people who went to the Gold AC location test and said it didn't count because a shitload of people traveled across the country to play the game and didn't make beatmania US shitty on purpose so they could tell everyone to fuck off whenever they ask them why they never made a serious localization attempt

>>14852019

Where can I see what you're selling? I may or may not be interested.

>>14822365

Oh no, I was playing on a cab with more responsive pads that aren't as sunken as fucking castle moats! I feel so cheated!"

>>14854675
get a pop'n controller its more fun

Honestly, I can't really 'get' people playing DDR when ITG is objectively better.

A Japanese player could go "Well, there's the fun of unlocking things and playing the events", but you don't have that if you play DDR in any place that isn't Japan, and even your "Muh pads quality" doesn't work because the majority of non-Japan cabs are just converticabs anyway whose pads got sunken on purpose.

EVEN if you for some unfathomable reason you enjoy charts that don't even loosely follow the music in the background, with deliberately bad patterns that require moves that break all flow of dance so that you have to dump more coins hoping to get that FC, you can do that on ITG too.

With the difference that you won't be playing with a timing window that fluctuates on every single note unless the bpm is a perfect multiple of 60.

Literally the only argument a staunch DDR supporter has at any time is "Muh treadmill simulator", completely ignoring the slew of technical charts actually done right that the community offers in place of Bemani's latest coin-eater.

I'm mystified.

>>14856129
the biggest complaint i've seen about ITG is how most of the hard charts are endless dumpstreams.

>>14856055
I find it more fun than iidx but man is the shitty grading system starting to get to me.

>>14856143
To be fair, that's the only way of making a chart 'hard' once you've gone past the 14th level.

And even then, the hardest DDR chart ever put out is like a ITG 13-14 rating, there's a billion challenging, while still fun and stream-free charts in that difficulty bracket on ITG.

People complain about 'endless streams' as if the existence of extremely high-level charts fitting the description ruined the whole game.

If you're able to play even the easiest of those charts then it means you're way above anything DDR has to offer already.

>>14856167
>shitty grading system
?

>>14856167
but pop'n doesn't have a grading system...

>>14856182
It has the medals but the way they work is super dumb.

>>14855337
Okay I'm curious why you use this shit theme in the first place, but aside from that... Do you play with a metal pad, foam pad, or is it kb?

>>14856167
Just look at the score, it's not influenced by the combo.

why are 11's so inconsistent? some charts I can nearly fc while others I have to quit out of 20 seconds in because they're so dense.

>>14856129
I like standardization.

I actually really like ITG2 as a game. I don't like "ITG" as a custom song platform.

>With the difference that you won't be playing with a timing window that fluctuates on every single note unless the bpm is a perfect multiple of 60.
It's actually BPMs that evenly divide 900 if you're concerned about 16th notes (e.g. 90, 100, 150, 180, 225, 300). The fact that all the bemani games have frame-based timing windows is really shitty, though.

>>14856236
The medals are more like clear status than a scoring/grading system.

>>14855867
Pig site marketplace.

I'll repost here. Biggest issue is shipping - I'm from the UK, and these things are heavy, so shipping is very expensive.

Bemani PC - 100 GBP
- E4690 GPU
- E8400 CPU
- enough storage and RAM to run anything
I'll sell for 50 GBP if you buy BOTH a screen and a controller for one of the games listed (SDVX, Jubeat, Pop'n).

Jubeat controller (FB9, gen3 rubber) - 250 GBP
Jubeat screen (Dell S2740L) - 200 GBP
FULL JUBEAT SETUP - 500 GBP

Pop'n controller (DAO, includes arcin and sanwas) - 350 GBP
Pop'n screen (Samsung UE32F4000) - 100 GBP
FULL POP'N SETUP - 500 GBP

SDVX controller (SVRE9, includes arcin, omrons and sanwas) - 400 GBP
SDVX screen (Samsung UE32F5000) - 100 GBP
FULL SDVX SETUP - 550 GBP

Hori Taiko Pro Controller - 200 GBP

>>14856129
I'm with the guy above - standardisation is a big deal to me. I like have a (relatively) static selection with a consistent level of quality control and progression.

Whenever I play community driven games, there always seems to be a need for personal curation, where charts and songs are lacking in one way or another. I'm just not a fan of that.

Other points of consideration:
There's more songs on ITG - not really bothered when there's over 1000 songs on DDR. I doubt ill ever play through all of them already.
Timing is more consistent - but timing is still standardised for DDR. It may not be "right", but as long as it's wrong for everyone, you retain an even playing field. Also people have managed high level MFCs. Can't be that bad.

Social aspect of the community - there's communities that focus on bemani too. I also feel that the ITG community is very poor (elitism over cabs, e.g. Dedicab, baby powder, extremely long songs / customs that hog the machine, not as accepting of new and low level players, etc.)

The list goes on, but the end result is I prefer DDR to ITG. Don't really see why you're so opposed to the idea that someone has a preference that doesn't match your own... But ok.

>>14854788

>>14856129
Sorry you have shit taste if you like ITG's playlist but not DDR's.

what's /jp's opinion on K-Shoot Mania?

>>14860811
Considering that it's pretty much the only SDVX simulator, it's okay.

Shame that it doesn't run on vertical setups, however.

what is the worst song in bemani history

>>14860872
smooooch

>>14860872
second heaven lamaze remix

or that other red zone remix in sdvx

>>14860872
All pop n music

Whats a good way to bind my keys for lunatic rave 2

>>14861031
LSHIFT ASD Space KL;

>>14861031
ASDF space JKL

>>14861050
>No scratch spacing

>>14861200
>playing pretend IIDX on a keyboard instead of embracing how things are

>>14861216
Mfw data and 2 IIDX controllers

>>14860872
every sdvx song

https://www.fig.co/campaigns/rock-band-4-pc

>>14861721

What was the keyboard shit like for Rock Band? I never got around to playing it.

>>14861721
if they make a guitar controller that isnt cheap and clunky shit then maybe i'll consider it

>>14860872
Gold Rush

How many of you play DDR/PIU that owns a hard pad?

Did some research and came across a pdd pad, how do these honestly perform? Are they any good or are these just hype?

>>14861031
LShift D T Space UMO?

:3

>>14861982
They work fine, but they're way overpriced and they don't have proper arcade panel height since the entire pad is flat. They're your best option if you don't wanna build your own or look for a secondhand blueshark or cobalt flux.

>>14861982

I still have a Cobalt Flux with the recessed mod I got off an ungrateful friend years ago for 100 bucks.

I doubt I'll ever sell it despite never using it. It's like a memento of a better, more enjoyable time in my life.

>>14861998
That photo was deceitful I thought it was recessed etc and not flat board


I doubt I'll get the chance to build my own what are these blueshark ones?
>>14862007
I saw cobalt flux mentioned you're lucky to have gotten one.....sell it to me lol

>>14861773
In regular mode it is just a guitar that you use your right hand instead of left.

Pro mode is the actual notes of the song, just not in accurate octave because of limited space. I didn't play a piano before but I found sight reading wasn't even remotely possible because horizontal field scrolling can leave you with going in completely blind during hand placement transitions. Results in having to learn songs section by section (which they do let you do easily in practice mode).
Keys was a one off, they are abandoned in 4 as was Pro guitar.

>>14860872
anything nanahira ever worked on

>>14862063
bassdrop freaks is almost good

>>14858434
>Hori taiko pro controller

>200 GBP

Fuck if only you were in the USA and were willing to let it go for cheaper I'd buy it same day

>>14860872
double thrash

So I've played on this machine a few times in a few different places, and I still to this day don't know what the fuck it even was.

Can anyone tell me what I played?

I made a sketch of the machine in paint.

Only other thing I remember is that it had that dumb Barbie Girl song on it.

>>14862357
Future Tom Tom.

>>14862512

I did some digging, and it's this.

Taiko: Drum Master 7, I think.

Some weird English one off arcade machine.

I guess I forgot it had two sets of drums. It's been like 8 years.

>>14862357
Percussion Master.

>>14862644

Oh shit, that's it. That's 100% it.

Is this some cheap Chinese rip off of the other shit I posted, or what?

"Percussion Master" sounds like a ripoff.

>>14862659
Yup, chinese ripoff

>>14860889
kill yourself desu

>>14860872
rave it rave it

>see a game i would like to play
>too poor to buy a controller
>would be too shit to justify buying a controller
>will never get to play anything

the only place that has iidx or sdvx is like a 2 hour drive away too fuck

>>14863523
you're never going to get better if you never play desu

Can we go to /vg/ or something please

I fucking hate this board

>>14863555
Leave whenever you want.

>>14859372
>>14858463

ITG's "playlist" is literally every song that exists, you can't dislike it as much as you can't dislike the concept of music altogether.

And I never said I dislike DDR songs, what I dislike is charts that are made bad on purpose as to break combos and eat credits from people aiming for FPC.

Doublestepping, steps deliberately out of rhythm, patterns that don't follow ANY instrument track in the song, these are a few of what seems to be the guidelines in how to write an official DDR chart.

ITG charts, on the other hand, can't be called objectively good or bad as a whole, because anyone can make them. And many of the most prolific charters are better than official Bemani ones in all the fields written above.

>>14863651
>ITG's "playlist" is literally every song that exists
That's a real shitty argument. Sure anyone could make a chart for any song but most songs aren't suitable for rhythm games anyway and even then they'll most likely just make a bad chart.

>Doublestepping
I don't understand why ITG players don't like doublestepping. Is it that the charters are always so fussy with making left-right-left-right streams that nobody wants to play anything else? There are plenty of good ways to use doublestepping to make fun charts (Healing Vision Angelic Mix comes to mind, one of my favourite charts)

>patterns that don't follow ANY instrument track in the song
This isn't fucking beatmania. The notes aren't keysounded so why do they have to follow an instrument? Real dancing doesn't follow instruments it just goes with the flow of the music.

>>14863714
>Real dancing doesn't follow instruments it just goes with the flow of the music.
And the majority of charts doesn't even do that. That's what I mean, a DDR chart is completely interchangeable with any other song and you would be none the wiser.

>I don't understand why ITG players don't like doublestepping.
Because when you do doublestepping in an ITG chart it's called a footswitch, and it's a fun mechanic that adds technique to a chart, having to swap feet from the same panel while not losing your flow.

When DDR does it, it breaks flow completely and it feels like awkwardly interrupting your dance so you can stomp twice with the grace of a falling tree, because it's not a doublestep made to follow rhythm, it's just a FC trap.

The "ITG charts are just left-right" streams is a view only someone who has never played anything but Bemani officials could hold, considering how far from the truth it is.

>>14863714
To my previous post I'll add that what I dislike the most about DDR official is the 'feeling' they give off when upping the difficulty.

In ITG, a well-made chart makes you feel like you're measuring your skill in the game, and being able to beat it means you're at the proper level to play that chart. Even if it's your first time playing a chart, being a 13-footer player means you'll be able to enjoy a 13. Difficult patterns are something you may be used to, some may be more difficult, but overall you can feel yourself getting better.

In DDR official it's a fucking crapshoot. Steps don't follow any logical progression, nor music, nor rhythm, nor patterns. "Technical" charts are a mess of turns that would work on their own, but that make no sense when put on after the other, and most of the time something 'difficult' pops up, it doesn't feel like something challenging, it feels like trial-and-error bullshit made so you have to spend another token to retry.

>>14862535
You probably saw it as 'Percussion Master'.

>>14863555
Nah, the faggots at /vg/ do leaks.

tfw there is never going to be a Laugh and Peace song in IIDX again

rip

>>14856129
>I don't understand why
>gives a bunch of reasons
Also, I hate ITG songs, so there you have it

Could osu standard actually become a good game now?

>>14864255
The community is still ass so there's that

>>14864255
There's still the problem of timing window, health drain, OD and AR being a setting to each map and not standardised, and pp v2 is still depend on FC, even tough there's more importance on accuracy then before. A step forward but still broken.

>>14864255
Any rhythm game where combo has an impact on score is retarded by design.

>>14864277
So is the Bemani community lol

>>14864689
lol

>>14863741
>Steps don't follow any logical progression, nor music, nor rhythm, nor patterns
Are you retarded? I know it's a shitty meme, but the only thing I can tell you at this point is
>git gud

english patch when

>>14864255
A step in the right direction but not quite there yet. Still I'm glad the aussie realized the scoring desperately needed work.

>>14863726
>Because when you do doublestepping in an ITG chart it's called a footswitch
These are completely different things, so don't try to compare them. Foot switching is just a variant of streaming that requires alternating feet on the same arrow. Jacks is using the same foot on the same arrow consecutively. Double stepping is using the same foot for different arrows consecutively.

>When DDR does it, it breaks flow completely and it feels like awkwardly interrupting your dance so you can stomp twice with the grace of a falling tree
Adjust your weight to avoid putting weight on the foot you need to use twice in a row when the time comes.

>The "ITG charts are just left-right" streams is a view only someone who has never played anything but Bemani officials could hold, considering how far from the truth it is.
You're saying ITG custom charts are great because the community has decided that double steps are heresy, but now you're saying that ITG custom charts aren't "just left-right", which is literally the opposite of double stepping. Unless you're saying that throwing jumps in occasionally is an acceptable substitute for double stepping. Please explain.

>>14863741
I will agree that DDR official charts suffer from a lot of memotrash due to speed changes and such, but very rarely have I encountered a step pattern by itself that was unreasonable to sightread. I don't think anyone will defend speed change garbage, but you seem to be more upset about complex patterns that don't adhere to your narrow view of what "makes sense".


I feel like this "everything must make sense" mentality only arose as ITG got big and speed mod usage really increased. Back in my day, everything was 1x, and everyone was perfectly comfortable with all types of patterns since they could read and adjust to them ahead of time. Now that everyone is playing at 600+ BPM scroll rate, all of a sudden all of these faggots are whining that these patterns that require seeing more than 5 notes ahead are bad and should never exist.

>>14864827
lol

>>14863523
Then build your own controller.

is the new official iidx controller going to be good or what
i think i want it

>>14866811
no

So I was just thinking, how much does Tokyo Attack charge cons to bring all their games? I can't imagine it's very cheap to bring all that stuff.

i've been gone forever
how am i supposed to play iidx with psun gone

>>14867094
Thank you for playing.

>>14867107
no really, setting pcbevent to 0 doesn't work anymore.
maybe the better question is where can i go to get a real answer

>>14867114
Download ealocalserver and play offline.

>>14867114
the iidx server is still up
the rest are down

>>14867114
>setting pcbevent to 0 doesn't work anymore.
But it does.

>maybe the better question is where can i go to get a real answer
Pig site, IRC.

>>14867122
>>14867120
do i need to change something? it's giving me "bad services host"
one day i'll get off my ass and start lurking in the irc

>>14867114
>where can i go to get a real answer

sows duh

>>14866811
how the fuck is anyone supposed to know it's not out yet

>>14863555
maybe if we get overseas releases again. so, never.
witnessed

>yfw Naoki comes back for DDRA

>>14867505
I don't think so

>>14864293
>mash difficult parts like a tard with a thousand misses
>get a higher score than someone who FCs the song
nice 'design'

>>14867680
>implying they'd spoil the surprise this early

They're saving it for the end of the game when they reveal a boss remix of let them move

Wud U?

>>14869508

>>14869508
>>14869516

>>14869523
I'd wear the fuck out of a Droste T-shirt like that.

>>14869523
I would pay a lot of money for this rasis shirt, no lie. even more for the sdvx hoodie that sunshine posted

>>14868314

Is accuracy that important in scorev2?
Actually who fucking cares osu is boring

there is no argument between ITG and DDR over doubles, right?

I mean, it's obvious that doubles players have a superior experience when playing DDR.

>>14870295
>pump

>>14870295
Play pump.

>>14869508
>>14869516
>>14869523
I'd buy them all if i didn't know that they would cost both of my testicles to ship here.

>>14870295
Pump has the best doubles, because they don't have a retarded layout and even beginners can do them.

Is iidx hard to get into if you're a no talent casual and don't intend to emulate it?

I moved to an area with a round 1 and got really into the rhythm section because the fighting section had no traffic

Mostly casually playing Taiko, Project Diva, Pop n & Museca, but they have an iidx cab too

Always been super intimidated by the apparent difficulty but it's also cheaper than everything but Pop n (4 credits vs 6), So I was wondering if I should give it a try

>>14871933
if you want to get good you pretty much have to have some form of home setup
in terms of difficulty it's about the same as pop'n just with a higher barrier of entry

>>14871933
It does take a lot of time and effort, you likely won't get terribly good purely playing at the arcade. There's absolutely no reason for you to not give it a try there and see if you like the game though, that's way better than buying an expensive controller only to realize it's not for you.

If you play step up mode you get to pick from a big list of beginner songs (lower difficulty than even the easiest songs in the regular selection), and then once you want to move up from there you can play standard mode and go to the folders for 1s or 2s. You won't get booted out of your credit for failing a song until you're on 7s I think

>>14869523
I would buy this. And also those SDVX LED futuristic sunglasses.

>>14871933
If you put some serious time into it you'll get good quick.

>>14867173
It was at Jaepo 2 weeks ago so a ton of people have played with it. Bemanistyle has a first look up.

Is the stock FP7 with free shipping worth buying as an intro to IIDX or should I shell out for the good buttons and switches right off the bat?

>>14873936
get omrons at least, they're like $35
sanwas are a luxury

>>14874196
The issue is that the shipping makes the omrons like net $100 more

>>14874568
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Omron-Electronics/D2MV-01-1C3

>>14874568
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/sanwadenshi/item/ilumb_223/

>>14874576
>>14874707

that makes this decision a lot easier thanks

>>14874707
how much would the shipping cost on this be, were i to buy like 7

>>14875232
like $10, so you might as well take advantage of it and order some springs at the same time

I'll be in the japan for a couple of weeks in the upcoming month. Are there any recommended arcades to play bemani stuff (preferably IIDX and sdvx)?

>>14875988
They're literally everywhere if you're in the city.

>>14875988
>>14875999
This
It's not like fighting games where certain arcades have certain games or active communities for certain games whereas others don't

Just about any arcade will have at least IIDX and SDVX

Things like DanEvo are a bit more rare but still shouldn't be a problem.

>>14875988
>>14875999
Actually, most arcades have so shitty setups that you can't hear at all what you're playing for music stuff. I went through all the Akihabara arcades and the best for bemani is the Try Amusement Tower by far. There are a lot of IIDX machines, SDVX, popn, and all the others, but there are even the forgotten keyboard mania and the original beatmania. The sound quality is pretty fucking great there. The second best spot was the Taiko building if I remember correctly (2 sdvx machines, 2 IIDX, 2-3popn...please correctly if I'm thinkg about another building) and the sound was allright, plus you could plug headphones in all the machines, a feature many arcades don't have.

>>14875999
>>14876064
>>14876067
Thanks. Definitely making at least one day trip to Akihabara so I'll look around.

>>14876067
can confirm try amusement is great
and stay the fuck away from the one on the 6th floor of don quijote, it's hot and tourist-infested and there's always a line for iidx

>>14876140
wtf, a line for IIDX? All I saw during my trip to japan in august was empty cabinets, except for a couple great player playing 11-12s. Never went to the don quijote one tough

>>14876185
I went to the don quijote one on the day copula was released and there were only like 2 guys there

Seems like the real akiba Leisureland is one of the more popular akihabara rhythm game arcades because that one had mostly full cabinets

>>14876140
Don Quijote was pretty sparsely populated when I visited.

Is it better to practice with random on or random off? I've been stuck trying to get passed 9's into 10's.

>>14876514
>learning in general
Random off.
>I can't read these weird bullshit chords
or
>I can't do X-Y trills at all
Random on.
>I can't do totally random streams
H-Random. Note that this invalidates scores.