/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Sure!

>>14490072
Delet this

>>14490072
Source? Is there more like this?

>>14490072
can i save this? do u have more???

>>14490214
>The openings in the dress
This is more lewd than should've been.

>>14490258
The way her shirt moves up and reveals her navel is way lewder

>>14490072
Please post more, I beg you!
I won't be able to sleep before I know if there is more.
Don't listen to this faggot >>14490183

http://video.fc2.com/a/content/20141006u24hWAKx

>>14490214
>>14490258
>>14490264
-no bloomers
please no lewd

Too lazy to make .webms, so have this instead.

http://i.imgur.com/8pIUTzN.gif
http://i.imgur.com/XnpD5Nb.gif

>>14490637
I need some sprite based H game like right now.

I have a bunch of these, but they're too lewd for /jp/.

>>14490651
There's Mugen, but that only has a really old Suika, Reisen and Sakuya along with the Remilia in >>14490666 as far as I've seen.

There's also a few videos of characters like Suwako, Cirno, Yukari and China (oddly enough no Marisa at all) on FC2, but I'm pretty sure they don't share those characters.

>>14490666
I am on classes and I am figting for having a boner under control, so far I am winning but continue and I am going to lose this battle.

>>14490694
Mugen seems amazing, but it's such a pain in the ass to set it up and get it working and download all the characters and all that shit so I gave up on it.

>>14490716
And I was here considering the idea.

>>14490694
There are quite a few.
In addition to all the ones you've listed I've also seen Aya, Tenshi and Okuu.
And then there are sprites from the new Touhou fighters >>14490637

>but I'm pretty sure they don't share those characters
The Nips don't share anything.
It's all hidden behind passwords, IP blocks and other anti-gaijin protection tools.

>>14490725
Huh, never came across anything of Marisa even though that's what I've really been looking for for almost 2 years.

rip thread

Where I can find more of these lewd gifs?

>>14490725
Please share Tenshi, PLEASE.

>>14490725
What was your image? Can you post a link of it or repost it again please?

>>14491790
Just check the archives to see the deleted posts, my good man.

>>/jp/thread/S14490019

>>14491823
Thanks, you're smarter than me.

http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=26738
I think there's some characters in this thread.

https://mega.co.nz/#F!xY1SQYYB!zrtvntDtdS33poPjyFI6UA

Apparently that link contains a shit ton of characters, with some 2hu's that apparently aren't anywhere else.

http://ryona.moe.in/hinanjo/index.htm

Current top thread has Sayuka gifs, she might also be someone on the site.
http://mugenryona.sakura.ne.jp/uploader/
The upload place.

I'm looking myself, but if you happen to find them before I do, slap up a link if you can.

>>14492535
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7kl591oajzuvs/

2nd character pack has Remilia, Sakuya, Udonge, and Suika.

>>14492535
>>14493100
Thanks for all the time you took to find these and for sharing it with us, anon.
You're a nice person.

>>14490072
Reimu a chuu chuu

Anyone have Yukari's level changing animation from SWR?

>>14494850
what do you mean by level changing?

>>14490694
>on FC2
>but I'm pretty sure they don't share those characters.
Same for their videos, they block a lot of them to make you get a premium account

Anybody with a premium account mind to share their name+pass here? That would be so nice.

In return, nice images.

>>14492535
>https://mega.co.nz/#F!xY1SQYYB!zrtvntDtdS33poPjyFI6UA
>protected by password
Do you have the password to extract it?

>>14492535

>https://mega.co.nz/#F!xY1SQYYB!zrtvntDtdS33poPjyFI6UA

What is the password?

>>14497100
ryona2, I think.

>>14494865
The one she uses when you go to the next stage in the story mode

I think she uses a similar one when she drops the big box thing too

>>14497505
damn I forgot SWR details since I play hisoutensoku.
So she had animations in the 10.5 she lost in 12.3?

>>14497867
Pretty sure she uses the same animation for the actual attack as she does in SWR, but the animation for the level transition was dropped in soku because there is no story mode for SWR characters.

How do you extract the sprites?

I was kind of hoping for more cute sprites than lewd.

Reimu with no bloomers?

>>14505800
I feel your pain.

>>14505879
What made you think she used to wear bloomers?
She never wore bloomers, only panties.

>>14502823
There are extractors that allow you to extract the resources of the game, including the sprites, and convert them into images.
But they're not animated, so the animated sprites are compiled into .gif files and re-animated by people.

>>14505891

>>14506209

MODS ASLEEP

POST YUKARI SWR/SOKU ANIMATIONS

I love Ichirin's idle animation. She's so pumped.

>>14509183
Just for you

>>14493100
Do anyone know where to find the other characters (youmu, iku, sanae, etc...) ?

>>14490214
>Was done by the actual artist for the games
Which is a damn shame the good spritework is spoiled by the shit gameplay.

>>14510189

>>14510217

>>14490214
kokoro is canon commando senpai

>>14510232

>>14510232
that was everything I had for Yukari

>>14493100
No one knows where to find the other mugen chars?

>>14515744
I don't know if it's still accurate or if these characters aren't the same ones anyway, but some years ago some MUGEN dopes deleted all their characters off their databases in misguided opposition to ZUN's copyright policies. That might be why some of them are harder to find now.

>>14515889
I hate her so much.
And all of you as well!

>>14515858
ZUN's copyright policies?
Could you explain please?
I thought that he was pretty cool with the copyright, he even gave his composition's copyrights away.

>>14515894
why do you hate her?
>did she insult your mother?

>>14515858
>in misguided opposition to ZUN's copyright policies.
Please explain.

>>14510189
>>14510217
>>14510232
>>14510242

NSFW Yukarin plis

>>14515899
>>14515995

In 2011 some of them, RicePigeon namely, were butthurt over some wording or clarification in ZUN's policies that they thought disallowed MUGEN. In response, they overreacted and vowed to stop working on Touhou.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/regarding-ricepigeon-126149.0.html

However, looking at his site he's apparently still working, albeit on the same old characters. So you can possibly disregard this.

I don't know about any of the others who were freaked out, though, since I got out of fucking with MUGEN a while ago.

However, if I'm not mistaken, some people also got out variously after MUGEN upgraded to 1.0, when the Touhou fighters changed styles, and after UFO.

>>14516113
Thanks for the infos. But ZUN never made such "restrictions", did he? From what I know, he was pretty cool and chill for the copyright, didn't he?
But recently I learn a lot of disappointing things about him, so that's why I ask the question, to know the details about that.

Anyway, the MUGEN community is totally retarded, seriously.
A lot of people here might be stupid and autistic but this is nothing compared to the mugen community.

The simple fact that they want to claim "ownership+right of censorship" on their creations, with the right to refrain people for sharing, is just disgusting. Like "a guy made a character" and later decided that he doesn't want to share it anymore, and no one has the right to share it again.

Fuck these people, that's not how art works. Art is meant to be shared.
And once you post something on the internet, it's not your propriety anymore, it belongs to the internet.
And these people want to change how all of these things work, they're just totally stupid.
So you see people trying to "secretly trade" by emails "rare characters". Duh, seriously...
It's literally the only community I've ever seen that does this kind of retarded things. Like if putting 10x their own name in the .txt and .def and other text files and write their name in big over the download buttons wasn't enough.
And they were saying everywhere that websites sharing creations "without asking to each single artist before" was equal to satan and that they will censor everyone giving links to these sites (warehouses).

These kind of spirit makes me want to find these people's creations and share it everywhere without asking them just to piss them off.

Well, if someone have these "missing deleted characters", I'd still be happy to see them.

>>14515889
Obligatory.

>>14516201
He didn't. What they had a problem with was some update or clarification specifically regarding commercial release, something that wouldn't have affected MUGEN at all.

Couple that with I believe a couple fake DMCA complaints at the time, which enforced the notion that ZUN "didn't care" or was outright western-phobic, and I think that's why they freaked out.

Bottom line, I think as long as you're not trying to profit off Touhou outside doujin conventions or other officially sanctioned avenues, you're good.

I agree. MUGEN guys are strange. Insular, snobby. That and being such a pain in the ass to set up is why I just gave up on getting further involved in it.

>>14516113
>>14516201
>>14516425
The most relevant of ZUN's policies here is to not distribute works with the original game data. MUGEN characters pretty blatantly violate that rule. This policy has been in place for a long time and most sources describing it are quite old, but it is still generally taboo today. Videos are the like are no problem, but games and such that use the source material, even if free, are very frowned upon. I don't think this would stop something like MUGEN, but it would be dishonest to pretend as though it were okay.

>>14516201
>But recently I learn a lot of disappointing things about him

Like what?

I think the most disapointing thing about him, that I learned, was the fact that he does it for money.
When asked about why he left his old job to work exclusively on Touhou, he answered — the pay wasn't good enough.
Even if that was true, all he had to do is say "I wanted to give Touhou my undivided attention, because of my love and passion for Touhou" or some shit like that.
But no, instead it's "It pays better".

>>14517349
This. Fucking this.
First of all, maybe it was lies from the beginning, but I got told ZUN didn't search to be overly rich, but just do nice things, like a true artist.
And that's why he gave to "the public" all his musical composition's rights and why you had so many touhou games made by tiers.

And I was totally admiring that, he was like a model in this fucked up society where everything revolves around money, I was like "wow, this guy is not like the others, he's a true artist who makes art because he likes it and not just for money".

I also got told he refused many contract to sell his right or sell games overseas on consoles like every commercial shit. Like "if he accepted he could have become so ridiculously rich but preferred to protect his art instead".

So I really used to respect and admire him a lot for that.

But lately, I heard this was not true, that he was actually interested by money, and that he even signed some things to make touhou games for playstation and other similar commercial shit.

And even in his late games, you feel so much that he searches money, and tries to "catch american audience" to sell more... *sigh*...
When you look at urban legend in limbo's wreck and some of the characters of th15, you really feel this so much.

I don't know where is the truth in all these things, but it really looks like "the nice ZUN" I thought he was, is not what is right...

I'd like to get your opinions on that, to say if what I said is right or to show me that it's wrong.
I'd actually like to be proved that everything I said was wrong, because I still want to believe it, because I'm one of the oldest fans of the serie and touhou has a very big place in my heart, but sadly, I really think it's the truth...

>>14517460
>First of all, maybe it was lies from the beginning
If anyone lied to you it wasn't ZUN. When did he ever sperg about this "true artist" shit? Even Rembrandt had to pay the rent.

>he even signed some things to make touhou games for playstation and other similar commercial shit.
He has permitted derivative games produced by third-party doujin circles to have their games distributed on the PlayStation. Oh no.

I'm not gonna touch that TH15 shit.

>I'm one of the oldest fans of the serie and touhou has a very big place in my heart, but sadly, I really think it's the truth...
You don't have to be a fan of ZUN to be a fan of the series. All you have to do is be a fan of the work and/or the community. At some point you mixed celebrity worship into it.

>>14517488
>If anyone lied to you it wasn't ZUN. When did he ever sperg about this "true artist" shit? Even Rembrandt had to pay the rent.
You didn't understand what I tried to say... From what I heard, he owns a brewery/brewpub, so he has enough money to live, so he can "refuse to become a billionnaire" if proposed, in order protect his art.
I never said he was the one who claimed that he did that, I'm not even sure this is true.
I never said he was doing everything for free either, he sells his games and probably already makes a lot of money from it. I just said that "I thought that" he refused to get "even bigger amounts of money" in exchange of his rights, in order "to protect his art". And I was asking more informations over that.

>You don't have to be a fan of ZUN to be a fan of the series. All you have to do is be a fan of the work and/or the community. At some point you mixed celebrity worship into it.
I totally agree, and I'm not "a fan of ZUN", and I wasn't either back then, I just used to admire "the choices I thought he made", and respect him for that as a true artist, but I liked touhou for other reasons.
But the thing is that I really see some changes in the quality of his works too, that's also why I asked all these questions.
And I never worshipped him like some retarded fanboys, and that's why I want to learn the truth about all these things...

And when you say "a fan of the work", okay, but if you say "a fan of the community", I don't agree, because the community (especially the western community) is one of the most awful community I've ever seen.

>>14517520
>And I was asking more informations over that.
He's said before that he isn't going to permit a official anime because he wants Touhou Project to be known as a doujin series first (there are probably people out there who don't know that Kagerou Days is originally a single Vocaloid PV), and keeps all canon work under tight control. Not sure what's been said other than that.

>the community (especially the western community) is one of the most awful community I've ever seen.
All fanbases are cripplingly retarded, but at least the Japanese secondary community produces work. I don't know if you're one of those people who really fucking hates memes or what, but ZUN doesn't agree; he invited a lot of prominent secondary creators to drink with him at the 20th anniversary stream.

>>14517532
>the Japanese secondary community produces work.
Can we still call them secondaries then?
The japanese community is already more authentic and they produce a lot of quality stuff.
You also find some amazing artists in all levels of art, especially drawing/painting and music, that really made my drop my jaws.
And they're also more devoted and passionate in their love.
And they're usually not secondaries, since you need to be well-informed to produce your fan-content.

To me, the true secondaries are from the western community. Actually there is nothing wrong to like fanon, even if some people don't always know the original art, if they're discreet. But these people in the western community are far different and worse than that. And I'm not gonna list all the reasons here, because they're pretty obvious, too numerous, and I don't want to bait them to come to argue here.

>>14517349
>>14517460
Both of you completely misunderstood this. I assume you got this from the Chart of a Strange Creator talk. I'm not going to go into the details of what we know about ZUN's working life at the time, but essentially at his company he was putting in increasing hours of work on things that weren't released and was being pressured increasingly often, all the while being disincentivized by Taito to work on his own projects. You might not be aware, but the salary for programming work in Japan is quite meager. He didn't quit because "Touhou pays better", he quit because he was working a shit job with shit pay and was forced to stop doing one or the other. The reason he could quit Taito at all was because he already knew he was making enough on good releases, and concentrating more on his doujin work ended up being better on all fronts. He quit his job to work on Touhou -precisely- because he wanted to give it his undivided attention and put the work into it that he wanted to but previously couldn't. That's mostly why he stopped working much on the series leading up to when he quit, and why he had an explosion of new activity the period after.

>and that he even signed some things to make touhou games for playstation and other similar commercial shit
Oh my god could you even just research the tiniest bit of what you're talking about you stupid fuck.

>>14517520
>From what I heard, he owns a brewery/brewpub
He doesn't. He makes craft beer once a year using the facility of Baird Brewing and basically gives it away during Nico Nico Chokaigi because he does it for fun and wants people to enjoy it. You know, doujin beer.

>>14517628
he said "he heard about" and asked questions about it, he never claimed anything.
I don't think he's the stupidest fuck in the story.
>why is there so many aggressive people on this board.

>>14517654
>why is there so many aggressive people on this board.
Times are rough mate.

>>14517460
ZUN only sells Touhou in person at conventions like Comiket (by Western standards, an anime con that has a giant Artist's Alley and nothing else), because he likes the sense of community. The games do not have an advertising budget, and spread mainly through word of mouth.

ZUN has contacts in multiple big gaming companies, or has worked for some of them. He has been approached multiple times with offers to turn Touhou into a mainstream multimedia franchise that's sold everywhere from gaming stores to supermarkets, has an anime, is translated into a dozen languages, etc. but has turned down all of them.
The main reason: doing that would take away his creative control. He even said that he didn't want Touhou to have an official English translation because he thought the translators would try to "improve" his work to fit US standards - he has more trust in places like Touhouwiki to keep things faithful.

The main Touhou games don't make ZUN a lot of money. I mean, he's one of the most successful doujin creators around, but doujin is still doujin. Most of his income comes from the spin-off manga, which are published in commercial magazines, or from royalties for figurines and the like. The magazines generally give ZUN a lot of control, to the point where it's joked that some of their publications only exist to have a place to put ZUN's manga in. On legal documents, ZUN's job is "manga writer".

When ZUN was told how much it costs for an American fan to get their hands on one of his games, he was shocked, called this "un-doujin" and said he was flattered you'd go to all that trouble but he'd rather you just pirate it. Shortly afterwards, DDC became officially available on Playism for $15.

>>14517666
>ZUN only sells Touhou in person at conventions like Comiket
>The games do not have an advertising budget, and spread mainly through word of mouth.
>He has been approached multiple times with offers to turn Touhou into a mainstream multimedia franchise that's sold everywhere from gaming stores to supermarkets, has an anime, is translated into a dozen languages, etc. but has turned down all of them.
>The main Touhou games don't make ZUN a lot of money.
That's what I wanted to hear about ZUN.
I heard so many people saying that ZUN is a sell-out, from your point of view this is false, and even if it's just "one person's opinion and it might me false", it makes me happy to read what you wrote.

>DDC became officially available on Playism for $15.
Why did he do this, by the way?
I might looks stupid, but can you explain wait is "Playism"?
At first I misread "Playstation" and I was kinda shocked, but apparently this is something else.

>talking about Playstation:
I heard he released playstation games as well, which is at the total opposite to what you just stated, do you have informations about it?

Thanks for the infos.

>>14517666
>>14517460
>But lately, I heard this was not true, that he was actually interested by money, and that he even signed some things to make touhou games for playstation and other similar commercial shit.

As for this...
There's a system that started on Playstation recently called "Play! Doujin", intended to help doujin creators who want to move into commercial game development. Because ZUN is an influential voice in the doujin scene, they approached him for his endorsement, and he gave his permission to some Touhou fangames to take part in the scheme. The fact that ZUN was okay with this was heavily marketed.
Normally ZUN doesn't want Touhou fangames promoted in ways that could distort peoples' impressions of the original work (in /jp/ terms, "don't do stuff that could create secondaries"). However, he decided that since the audience of this scheme consisted entirely of Japanese doujin fans, all of them would know about Touhou already.

>>14517691
>I might looks stupid, but can you explain wait is "Playism"? At first I misread "Playstation" and I was kinda shocked, but apparently this is something else.
http://playism-games.com/game/215/double-dealing-character

>>14517691
>I heard so many people saying that ZUN is a sell-out, from your point of view this is false, and even if it's just "one person's opinion and it might me false", it makes me happy to read what you wrote.
"Doujin" sometimes gets translated as "Indie", but it's really more like "Garage". Think the kind of games you'd see on the forums of Game Maker or RPG Maker or whatever, with people asking each other to download them and give feedback.

Most of the games sold at Comiket are basic stuff that's sold dirt-cheap. Basically just enough to cover the circle's travel and printing costs, and maybe buy a few drinks afterwards. Often a circle will fail to sell enough of their stock, and will actually lose money. ZUN could be accused of "selling out" because Touhou is so popular that he's guaranteed a profit, even when selling at low prices. Some peoples' thought processes go "I put twice as much effort into my work as ZUN -> Therefore I should be making twice as much money as ZUN -> I'm not, so ZUN must be cheating".

Also, he writes manga that aren't doujin but are set in the same world as his doujin works, which rubs some purists the wrong way.

>>14517666
>The main Touhou games don't make ZUN a lot of money.

Let's not get too crazy.
Impossible Spellcard, which was a spinoff, made him well over $200k.
And that's just the limited copies sold at the event alone, not counting online stores and such.
Then there are royalties he gets from all the figurines and plushes sold.
And then, as you mentioned, are all the mangas and print works.

He even started some shady ghost company, which I forgot the name of.
But basically it was made just to launder all the money he gets from Touhou sources.

Make no mistake, ZUN is swimming in cash.

>>14490214

Kokoro is so lewd. She really deserves more porn.

>>14516201
So it's mmd

>>14517666
>The main reason: doing that would take away his creative control. He even said that he didn't want Touhou to have an official English translation because he thought the translators would try to "improve" his work to fit US standards

That's pretty ironic, considering things like the IN translation in the past.

>>14517691
It's just a rumor, mind you, but I heard he released DDC on Playism so he could protect his copywrite in the west, after the "Touhou Smash" bullshit that went down.

>>14517086
I see. I forgot about that and didn't take it into account. Probably more understandable why they freaked out then, but like you said, it had been there a while.

As to all this, I don't really mind that he does it for the money. His love of Touhou regardless has never been in doubt for me. But it's been evident for a while that he was making a living off Touhou, that it was his "job". No one who does two manga, one monthly, and works on the game and makes appearances is going to be able to do so it in his spare time while having to hold down another job.

Maybe because I saw it coming. Once he got married and had a child I had a feeling Touhou would start becoming more of a business to him, something he does because he loves as well as something to support his lifestyle and put food on the table. But it doesn't affect me either way.

Given the choice between continuing to work a thankless, soulless job with long hours for someone else or being my own man with my own product which I know is profitable, I'm taking the latter.


>>14517666
>>14517758
>>14517844

There was a thread here that gave estimates on how much he was making and I'd say he probably does pretty well for himself. I have no doubt he's saved plenty up, but also depends a lot on his salary from manga for month-to-month expenses.

>He even started some shady ghost company, which I forgot the name of.
But basically it was made just to launder all the money he gets from Touhou sources.

Kourindou Inc. I think. I wouldn't call it a money-laundering ghost company. It's a legit company, but is used simply to manage his business interests and contracts. It has like three employees that I know of, one of which is ZUN, and two business managers/friends who help him with all the legalese and such. It's smart, not shady.

I believe it was formed after some trademark squatter stole a variation of the Touhou name right out from under him, after which he started to become more wary of the business side of things.

>>14518126
Touhou Smash came after that. Playism came about after he had been thinking for a while about how to modernize and distribute Touhou digitally. He apparently had thought about a few different platforms including Steam but decided on Playism. I think he had been talking about digital since before his America trip.

>>14518139
Did the Smash thing come after? I may be getting my dates mixed up. Anyway, your probably right.

>>14518079
Well yeah, ZUN's English isn't good enough for him to judge the quality of a translation himself, but he knows the difference between how fans and commercial entities handle things. Marisa's rudeness being translated as "bitch" is pretty tame when you consider the number of official localisations that strip out any religious references or moral ambiguity.

Honestly Playism EN has been pretty bad about the whole "clearly identifying what's the original work and what's a fangame" thing too, and the original page for DDC looked like it had been fed through Google Translate.

>>14522151
Ugh, don't remind me.

>>14522151

What is this? Buddhist tits control skill?

>>14522164
BYAKUREN'S BIG JUICY WELL DEVELOPED MOTHERLY PERFECTLY SHAPED
TITS

>>14522151
Proof that ZUN doesn't care about the development process of the games. I am 100% sure he didn't know a thing about it until the game was released, didn't even play the beta.

>>14522288
Does anyone ever consider the possibility that maybe ZUN was okay with bouncy tits on the buddhist leader?

>>14522411
Well he said the game was shit when it came out, so I'd say >>14522288 is right, he only saw the game after it came out and not the whole developement process.

>>14517894
Do not sexualize the mask

>>14522288
From what I understand, ZUN's involvement is mostly concepts, writing, and some music, and then he hands everything over to Tasefro, with him coming after everything is finished and making sure it's alright. From what I understand, the art wes actually even lewder in HM before ZUN figured out what was going on and told them to tone it down. There's a reason the main artist didn't come back for ULiL.

>>14510236
That gif is not "canon" or official.

>>14522151
>>14522271
Greatest Touhou ever.

>>14522747
>From what I understand, the art wes actually even lewder in HM before ZUN figured out what was going on and told them to tone it down.
No, some people just started throwing fits because one of HM's artists also drew porn, claiming that this made HM porn by extension.

By which I mean, he didn't use a separate name to draw porn. Because just about every doujin artist has drawn porn at some point - it's both easy money and good anatomy practice.


Also, secondaries complaining about >>14522151
because they think Byakuren is a 100% good person instead of a 90% good person who uses magic to make herself beautiful even though it's against her religion and no other magician does it.

>>14522440
HM was filled with bugs when it came out, one of Koishi's attacks could crash the game, characters didn't have their full movesets implemented, and Kokoro did have any moves and wasn't supposed to be playable but it was possible to unlock her anyway.

But no, I'm sure he was talking about the graphics.