/jp/ - Otaku Culture

At how many drum canisters should I stop?

>>14251213
19: 3 for every DD, 4 for Ooyodo/Yuubari

I might have my first big one on the way. Though right now my ships would probably rather have my first Akashi instead for repairs.

Fubuki saves the day, thanks tanaka I'm done with this 5-3 bullshit I've left unfinished for months.


thanks for read

Seriously, are we forced into using the spam thread?
Why was the real thread deleted?

This reeks of samefagging.

>>14251456
>5 replies
>6 posters
Do you honestly think someone cares that much to use all those IPs just to start a thread?

>>14251464
You're severely underestimating /kcg/fag. That said, you replied to him.

>>14251464
There is one person who does, but my advice to you is just to report anything that looks too retarded.

>>14251456
Who are fucking care about OP?

>>14251213
I recently reached 60 and start to think they might be a bit too much. However when I had less than 50 reequipping girls was a bit irritating.

>>14251380
If possible, buy repair docks and slots. The sooner you get the docks, the more useful they will be to you and the less buckets you will use. And you will want a lot of those because you most likely have plenty of ships to farm. As for slots, event is coming up so you will want them, might as well get them early.
Be sure to do the 2-5 monthlies to have more shots at Akashi.

>>14251464
You just replied to a guy who can have thread with 20 posts, all by different IPs, all by one person.

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>>14251483
these all are me tbh fam

>>14251497
>>>/a/132534694
Fuck off

>>14251480
Glad I'm not the only one.

You might be interested in this thread. >>14251505

>>14251507
Nice.
And the picture is great

>>14251507
Mention "no drama" in the OP and you will doom the thread from the start.

>>14251440
Pretty good fleet, all I'd change is keeping Hibiki Japanese.

Give it a go.

Why is that playing on a phone can get you banned?

>>14251688
Maybe translate it first, weeb.

>>14251716
The pleasure of being bingo inside.

>>14251705
It shreds their servers.

>>14251705
They don't cache resources like desktop browsers do, so you end up hitting their servers way harder than you need to and that annoys them. If you really must play Kancolle while taking an extended dump set up a remote desktop.

>>14251705
Phone doesn't really store cache, so it needs to redownload shit, which in turn is a burden on the server. That said, FlashPittan was great to use (used it quite a couple of months), but now it's unusable with API being kill.

>>14251720
Android firefox can cache like a PC browser now though.

>>14251725
Well if you're sure it's not redownloading flash resources and DMM isn't going to unceremoniously shoot-and-throw-overboard people with the wrong user-agent, you could give it a shot.

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>>14251747
Is 2-4 "forgot practice"? I certainly don't log in twice a day every day.

>>14251725
>>14251738
May as well use the official Android app.

>>14251764
"Picked the wrong battle formation", no?

>>14251764
>>14251771
You're both right.

>>14251771
I think he did row-col to your col-row

Has anyone made a composite world map yet? The summer event one was pretty cool.

>>14251817
do it yourself, faggot

>>14251716
Done

>>14251985
Thanks anon! The only one I'm missing for sure is accidentally scrapping a ship. I'm not THAT kuso.

>>14252002
>I'm not THAT kuso
>sunk a ship
Yes you are.

>>14251688
Not even once

>>14251985
You know, this is teaching me some new tricks.
Like not resupplying ammo to a non attacking carrier.

I sunk ships though. Probably more than five now but non of them were high level and I definitely didn't forget damecons because I never planned on giving them damecons so yeah.
Not deliberate though. I'm opposed to sinking ships but sometimes things happen and you tilt.

>>14251720
>>14251985
>>14252048
>Kancolle
>small c

>>14251688
>>14251985
I'm kuso.

>>14251985
Accidental scrappings weren't anything important, but, for example, recently I scrapped a level 1 quest ship and had to get her to drop again.

Retreating when I intended to keep going was on an event map when I only had enough resources for one more try. Luckily, that was the one.

I don't recall going without any equipment, but I have sortied with completely useless equipment and then wondered why there was no cut-in. I'm also assuming "forgot to spin the compass" doesn't count if I don't care about delays because fatigue needs to recover.

>>14252062
I'm sorry, here you go.

>>14251985
When I fail upgrades it's because I intentionally don't use the slider. I can't imagine wanting to use the slider and forgetting about it.
I did use CAV as flagship of MO twice.
The trick with Reppuu mules is clever, never considered that.

>>14252122
>The trick with Reppuu mules is clever
It's also outdated. Not because it doesn't work anymore, but you'll have very few opportunities to apply this method.

>>14252122
>>14252062

>>14252135
It will be useful if devs stop being dicks and let us use Suijou Butai.

Get on my level

>>14252170
>>14252062

>>14252143
You always have the choice.

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>>14252183
I didn't have it in Summer.

>>14252211
You did in E-2 and E-7 had the Hayasui option.

How is it possible to fall asleep while playing? Do you guys have narcolepsy or something?

(ヾﾉ・∀・´)ｱﾙｱﾙ!@糞提督

>>14252224
No, my sleep schedule is just incredibly unhealthy and based around expeditions.

>>14252215
Not in E2 and Hayasui with her cash items isn't an option.

>>14252224
If you play until 3 AM after whole day of work...

>>14252224
grinding 5-4 a few times
although they were 10-15 min naps in middle of a sortie

>>14252211
Kidou was shit for last dance. Suijou cleared it for me in one shot.

Of course, if you meant summer 2014, that was because suijou didn't even exist back then.

>>14252215
I didn't use Hayasui though.

>>14252224
If you play overnight and go without sleep you'll obviously get tired and there'll be a real chance of you falling asleep while playing.

>>14252224
Sometimes you just gotta show your boats you care by working hard deep into the night.

>>14251985
I'm actually great.

>>14252253
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>>14252233
>png
Anon, pls.

>>14252062

>>14252250
You and your friend are exceptions. Everyone else cleared the map with Kidou. For the point you're trying to make, there's no difference between chipping and Last Dance.
I attempted Last Dance 5 times with Kidou and the first four failed because I was really unlucky at boss node because Antizuki NEVER targeted damaged HP. In fifth attempt she missed in shelling and that was enough for S rank. Looking at my attempts I can safely say that E7 Hard Last Dance was definitely clearable with Kidou.

>>14251688
>falling for this obvious bait
I expected better of you /jp/.

>>14252250
You and your friend are exceptions. Everyone else cleared the map with Kidou. For the point you're trying to make, there's no difference between chipping and Last Dance.
I attempted Last Dance 5 times with Kidou and the first four failed because I was really unlucky at boss node because Antizuki NEVER targeted damaged ship. In fifth attempt she missed in shelling and that was enough for S rank. Looking at my attempts I can safely say that E7 Hard Last Dance was definitely clearable with Kidou.

>>14252292
It's fresh and new TTK, you're the dummy.

>>14252295
It's always the same guy and his friend, isn't it?

>>14252295
If someone did it it's proof that it's doable.

Can any Hard Mode players tell me if I'm ready (for hard mode)?

Summer was my first event and I struggled a lot, I did everything on easy and couldn't even beat E-7, couldn't save Teruzuki. This time I want the medal so my girls won't be the laughing stock of the rest of the navy, I want to show them they have a good TTK, that they can be proud of me.

Is there anything essential that I am missing?

>>14252316
You lack a shipfu.

>>14252316
You're in pretty good shape, this event will probably look like nothing compared to the last one. What do your equips look like?

>>14252309
I thought we are intelligent people and obviously exclude extremes because they will always exist in RNG filled game but shouldn't be used as arguments. I'm talking about reliability.

>>14252300
I thought more people ran Suijou but it seems like everyone else failed with it.

>>14252316
Just how much are you playing a day? I've been playing from January (with a break from the spring event until the summer one) and my fleet is much worse.

>>14252316
Your ships are ready. Good job, you managed to do a lot in this time.
Do you have upgraded eq?

>>14252330
Not him but I am around his level.
Looking back at Summer event, do you think that fleet like this can beat hard mode?

>>14252356
Most likely, we've gotten hints at easy with medium scale. That probably means 5 maps of easy shit.

>>14252362
I mean, Is it possible for this fleet to beat Summer 2015 in hard mode?
Sorry for my bad Engrish.

>>14252362
Theoretically it has everything needed for any event however I'm not sure about chances of clearing last E7 Hard. Lower levels mean slightly worse accuracy and evasion which result in more attempts needed which translate to more resources used. Depends on stockpiled amount. Akashi upgrades are also very important.
However, if we're talking about upcoming event, that fleet should be able to easily clear it.

>>14252373
No

>>14252316
-You don't have Shimakaze or Yukikaze? They may come in handy. Do some 250/30/200/30 or something. And 2-4-A drops Shimakaze.
-Only Isuzu Kai 2 can upgrade depth charges but it's not like they're that important.
-Also you can at least Kai Bisko you know, her first remodel doesn't need blueprints. Same for Tone.
-Where are your CVLs? You should at least get Hiyou-class, Chitose-class and RJ. These 5.
-And where's your Hyuuga?

Other than that, you're good to go. With that said, the next event will be much easier than summer so you should be able to breeze through it even with your current fleet. Winter 2016 will be the real test.

I want to go on a date with Urakaze!

>>14252316
>>14252416
Disregard the CVLs, I'm blind. Yeah, you're good on that part too.

So despite the fact that everyone here talks trash about 5-5 now, I kept away after my trashing by Re that cost me over 10k resources for a single kill from before aircraft proficiency.

Turns out you can actually trust the anons here. No supports at all.
Almost as clean as it can get. Shoukaku doesn't count since she got done in from full health by closing torpedo from the submarine.

>>14252344
You just need around 12 hours to kai ni 1 ship, given that you have enough resources, subs and buckets)

>>14252277
pasted it from clipboard, that's what it comes out as

>>14252316
Man. I beat summer 2014 on manly mode with worst fleet than you. Stop being pussy and stockpile more

>>14252439
Did you fight two Dysons?

>>14252447
Yeah. Manly mode. I used underlevel Zuiho and raised another Chitose to kai ni because they were locked from other map

>>14252347
Thanks. And no, because I don't own Akashi.

>>14252330
I lack any gun bigger than 41cm. Is that bad?

>>14252416
I don't, and I think it's too risky to try to roll for them so close to the event. Will just have to trust my Bucky to do the torpedo cut-ins.

>>14252344
I have no social life + autism.

>>14252344
How, do you need a month to level a single ship or something?

>>14252430
Well fuck me.

I will leave it here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVjhBVlktqc

>>14252498
What are they doing?

Another guy who started slightly before the summer event. I was lucky enough to finish on easy. I think my levels should be more than enough for hard.

How am I doing in terms of upgraded equipment? Right now I have around 40 screws saved up for Bisko guns when I get her to Drei next month. I'm also thinking of getting at least two more quints, but I'm unsure how many I should upgrade and if I should go beyond +4.

>>14252498
>Anime Expo
Nope, not even once.

I haven't got a single saury like in 100 sorties. I usually sortie 20~30 times a day. Is this normal?

>>14252530
I caught them all, sorry.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27376164

My nightmare fuel.

>>14252530
>>14252543
It was me.

>>14252514
Those look pretty good, even better than mine. I would recommend getting a aa pasta gun to max for Maya-sama. You have 1 FuMO at least right? I f not try to craft at least one t14, they are easy to craft if you aim for t32 since they dont exist.

>>14252498
Average filthy gaijin player

>>14252543
>>14252549

Hey, c'mon. I always fish at 1-5 and 3-2. Where do you guys fish?

>>14252574
It's a se~cret~

>>14252574
The best place to fish is 5-3 boss

>>14252574
The new map 3-6 unlocked with a secret password.

>>14252493
Not enough SS. Hunt for them at 3-3 or 1-5.

>>14252555
>since they dont exist.
T14 is the one that doesn't exist. I have nearly 2 pages of T32 yet no T14, this shit really grinds my gears.

>>14252610
I'm a poorfag unfortunately, which means no slots.

>>14251817
I tried, it's just an incoherent mess of random land masses. Someone is better off figuring out the real WW2 battles and mapping it out on a real map.

>>14252555
Almost a year too late to get the FuMO. I'll be sure to stockpile in case Prinz drops during next event. I actually crafted a T14 yesterday. I currently have 2 T32s and one T33.

BP ships I currently have are ABKM, Yamasiro, Tone and Shoukaku. I have Roma but I'm thinking I should prioritize at least Bisko, Unryuu, Choukai and Zuikaku before her. The Pasta AA gun is pretty low priority, right?

>>14252614
Where do you live? It's just 1000 yen. Only 6 standard meals (166 yen) in my country.

>>14252634
Your country is really, really cheap

>>14252632
You have done well. I don't even have 51cms. How was the ranking in your server? In Rabaul you need around 1300 points to get 500th.

>>14252589
>>14252597
>>14252602

Argh, I want that flag so much. It seems so hard to catch after the first 5 fish.

>>14252614
USD is pretty strong right now man. Get on it.

>>14252634
I'm a student in an Eastern European shithole. Shipgirls aren't exactly my priority when it comes to expenses.

>>14252514
That 15.2cm Kai is from ranking, right?

>>14252653
You should ask about 51cm not 15.2cm Kai.

>>14252638
>>14252651
One factor is that my country is still heavily argicultural so the food is very cheap.
Anyway, you >>14252651
should considered expand your HQ otherwise you have to scrap some DDs.

>>14252656
I think you missed his point. You can't get 51cm from upgrades.

>>14252613
At least you have Naka, right? Didnt know such thing was possible.
>>14252632
There was a 2nd FuMO in another event, thats why I asked. Why would anyone go yamashiro over Fusou tough. You should proritize Bisko for sure, I wouldnt call the aa gun lowprio since its quite useful (also really cheap) for Maya-sama, the t14 recommendation was so you can get a good aa radar for her, I think you can even upgrade it.

>>14252672
>Why would anyone go yamashiro over Fusou tough.
From a personality perspective, you're saying? AFAIK stats are the same.

>>14252672
You can only upgrade the Type 21 air radar.

>>14252686
Fusou has much better personality and slightly better stats.

>>14252670
No i didn't miss his point. I know you can't get 51cm from upgrades. He has 51cm and started 'slightly before' summer, which would mean he got top100 last month. That in instance means he should know what the fuck he is doing. So why even ask dumb questions about his guns.

>>14252669
>otherwise you have to scrap some DDs
Well, Oboro, Mikazuki, Nagatsuki, Akigumo, Kiyoshimo and Aoba are the least in my priority list. I'll gradually replace more Mutsukis in expeditions as I lvel other DDs.

>>14252651

I am also a student studying in Eastern Europe and I have 170 slots + unlocked drydocks. Going out and eating are overrated my friend.

>>14252669
Im from a 3rd world shithole with same economy, I have 8 expansion docks, Im sure you can do it, anon.
>>14252686
Both, great personality and eve 1 more firepower, yamashiro has 1 more armor.

>>14252479
Event is easy enough so you should be able to at least do 250/30/200/30 daily crafts. You don't even need to spam those recipes. It shouldn't be that expensive.

>>14252547
That was pretty entertaining to watch. Reminds me of how much I want a kitanda of my own.

>>14252651
I'm a NEET in the poorest Eastern Europe shithole yet I managed to gather some monies over time. If you're going to play this game sooner or later you'll have to pay for it.

>>14252697
But I have to warn you that it won't be long untill your urge to keep more shipgirls go beyond your slot.

>>14252692
Looks it's a one-point stat difference on Fusou (-1 armor, +1 FP, +1 AA, -1 luck), though admittedly that one luck is pretty worthless.

Personality-wise, though, Fusou is kind of an airhead. I prefer Yamashiro's seriousness much more.

>>14252697
You really do not want to scrap Aoba yet. 5-3 Mikawa quest will be the last one to require her and you only need 25 DDs total, maybe less if you can manage it.

>>14252716

Oh yeah? I know right, I got expansion docks too. Also too bad for you Crimea is ours.

>>14252713
Getting them is one thing, but grinding them to 70+ is another. That will be costly no matter how you look at it.

>>14252693
You did, and now you're trying to cover for this possibility by being a rude fuck instead of thinking what other person meant.
Sole fact of question being asked means that that anon is wondering about the source of the gun. It wasn't handed out in ranking together with 51cm in September, so the anon must have gotten it either in July or from upgrades.
Meanwhile only a complete retard would ask about 51cm, because there's nothing to ask if only one possible answer exists.

>>14252739
Just grind at 1-5A or PVP

>>14252737
At least Poles are not going to steal Lviv any time soon.

I think I am going to start ranking soon.
Any solid fleet with less bucket and resources loss for 5-4?

>>14252736
Maybe, but it's not like she's anywhere near the top of my levelling list, so I can do some time without her and get her again later to do the job. Questing isn't my main objective, scoring kai nis is.

>>14252756
It's not like we need it at this point.
The differences between neighbors are depressing as fuck

>>14252789
It's either resources or buckets.

>>14252797
It's a bad idea to get kai 2 ships first if you will not buy slots.

>>14252744
Again. I did not miss his point, but if you think i did I'm fine with it. Also, 15.2cm Kai was a reward for top21-100 last month.

>>14252613
You're just incredibly lucky. I've gotten six T14 and only one T32.

>>14252822
Oh. Wikia lied to me.

Oh my

>>14252870
Wikia always lies.

>>14252885
Exquisite taste. The only thing in which K2 Murakumo is superior to her K1 counterpart is dress design, everything else is superior in original.

>>14252915
>there're people in this thread don't have pudding Chiyo

>>14252915
Having Prinz but no Bisko for so long was really hard. I love Eugen but she was constantly talking abut her Nee-sama. Thanks god I managed to craft her a month ago, now my Lucky Girl is finally 100% happy.

>>14252915
>purinfags
Silly nips thinking that weakanalbait's body is on Bisko's level, keep dreaming cucks.

>>14252970
Why not both

>>14252946
>>14252970
I can't decide which one of you made a worse shitpost.

>>14252295
>there's no difference between chipping and Last Dance
There are two; last dance has a much stronger boss fleet, and you have to actually sink the boss, unlike for chipping. I would even add that a fleet for farming has different requirements from both chipping and last dance (for spring 2015 onwards, at least). With that in mind:
-for chipping fleet, you want to send out the fleet that is the most efficient for chipping, whether you actually S rank the boss or not;
-for last dance, you want to send out the fleet that is the most efficient for getting the kill on the final form of the boss, whether you actually S rank the boss or not; and
-for farming fleet, you want to send out the fleet that is the most efficient for S ranking the initial form (until winter 2015, it was the final form).

Most people would put chipping fleet with farming fleet together. However, for certain maps, it's actually not that feasible to do so; for example, my farming fleet at winter 2015 E4 would've been different from my chipping fleet if I had actually bothered to farm there, since I cleared it without getting a single S rank at the boss, but what I did use for chipping/clearing was certainly the most effective for me. With that said, it's true for many maps that the best fleet for all 3 is exactly the same. However, it's obviously not the case for all maps, and summer 2015 E7 is one of them.

It was easier to reach the boss node with kidou than with suijou, and kidou would avoid the sub fleet which suijou would have to go through and lose 2 fuel bars against, I think no one disputes these 2 points. Kidou was also enough to consistently down the boss in initial form, I think no one disputes that either. The point of dispute therefore lies with final form i.e. what's the best for last dance.

Suijou fleets allowed for up to 4 BBs in the main fleet which meant massive firepower to pierce the enemies' armour with. And there were 3 enemies with high armour. Kidou on the other hand had a maximum of 2 BB in the main fleet to pierce the armour with. I've come to the conclusion that the rule of thumb is that suijou is better if there are 3+ enemies at the boss node with BB hime tier armour or more, otherwise kidou is better. On top of that, suijou attacked first, which softened the enemies a lot which made it easier for the escort fleet to deal with them. Kidou made the escort fleet fight the boss first, which meant that they would have ended up being more battered than in suijou. This was the cause of the constant failures we suffered.

The issue with suijou however was the assumption that you needed Akitsu Maru (due to branching rules) + Hayasui (due to her ability to resupply the fleet) to do suijou effectively (probably due to this video http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26964353).). This then caused problems, with Akitsu Maru flagship effectively giving Antizuki an earlier hit in the second shelling phase (since all she'd be able to do was scratch), and Hayasui taking up a slot in the fleet that you could have given to an extra cut-in ship. That was why suijou was not seen as any more effective than kidou, even if you assumed that both fleets had the same chance of reaching the boss node (kidou actually has a higher chance).

The fleet I ended up clearing E7 with used neither. Of course, that would mean an even lower chance of reaching the boss node through the south route, and indeed I got diverted to F node once. However, it also gave the chance to go the standard route kidou used (node E), which was impossible if you had Akitsu Maru. While the overall chance of reaching the boss node was still lower, in return you had access to the best route available to suijou (which my friend got on his first attempt; the lucky bastard). It also allowed the use of 2 CVL instead of 1 CV, giving a total of 8 slots for planes instead of 7. This meant that I could set the CVL flagship to be a Reppuu mule, making sure the BB in the second slot would get to attack in the second shelling phase before Antizuki got to. Finally, having gone south and reached H, and knowing that going to J (which the aforementioned video did) carried the risk of being sent to Y right after, I went to Y directly (it was surprisingly easy), to guarantee having as short a route to the boss as possible. And indeed I killed the boss when I got there. Having just 2 fuel and 4 ammo bars when I got there didn't faze me much because you got that in E6 too.

I'm not saying the fleet I used in the end was the most effective possible. Maybe including Hayasui was still better (because it'd replenish the fuel/ammo with south route, if you gimped Hayasui's fuel/ammo beforehand), maybe not (because it wouldn't replenish with north route). But the conclusion I got was that the best suijou fleet was better than the best kidou fleet, just that most people overlooked the most effective suijou fleet.

>>14252356
>>14252373
If he spent both his blueprints on Bismarck he should be able to beat summer E7 hard with that fleet. The slightly worse accuracy and evasion due to lower levels shouldn't affect much.

Strongest AACI in the world.

Are there people who seirously married Maruyu? She probably doesn't even know what marriage is.

>>14253286
There's someone with like two pages worth of Maruyu and Maruyu kai at lv150

>>14253286
Are there people who seirously married you're waifu? She probably doesn't even know what marriage is.

>>14253286

>>14253286
I have a 99 Maruyu, but I suspect the HP bonus would ruin her greatest strength, so she is just my mistress.

>>14253361
(If unmarried)
50% damage: 4/7 HP left
80% damage: 2/7 HP left

(If married)
50% damage: 6/11 HP left
80% damage: 3/11 HP left

Nah, you should be fine.

>>14253328
That's outdated.

>>14253409
Fucking hell the autism

>>14251985
I remember scrapping Asashimo by accident right after getting her in Winter on my first try. I had to wait until 4-5 was released to get her again.

Oh by the way, I've fixed kcv memory leaking by changing IE options

Advanced
Accelerated graphics
Use software rendering instead of GPU rendering* tick

Works for other browsers, just find the option

I wonder if they reduced the drop rate for Kongous at 3-2

I've barely been getting any for firepower modernization fodder.

>>14253472
Is that actually Shoukaku?

>>14253529
Who else could it be?

In the expedition quest required to unlock the second catapult, is the order of the expeditions important?

>>14253652
No

>>14253652
No, but doing both at the same time is not a good idea unless you don't want the resources.

Anyone have bingo on this?

>>14253678
I want to see the madman that maxed T1 AP-shells or T22Kai4.

>>14253678
>max kai 4 radar
ayy

>>14253678
oy vey goyim desu ne

>>14253678
Where's the max T32 kai?

Also does anyone have a higher resolution? I can't see the names of the planes clearly.

>>14253712
It's the Souryuu and Hiryuu Kai Ni planes.

>>14253712
It's the Tomonaga and Egusa planes from the kai 2 dragons.

>>14253721
>>14253727
Well, okay. Though it seems pointless farming for Hiryuu's planes. And why is it 12 and not 16?

And the recon seaplane?

>>14253739
Sendai plane

>>14253739

>>14253739
The bingo probably assumes you have the 2 Ju87 and Suisei Egusa and an air group from Unryuu kai.

>>14253678
i wish i had a cashy

>>14253739
>12 and not 16
Souryuu planes*

>>14253743
>>14253748
2+ night recon planes seems more than a little underwhelming though.

>>14253757
I don't know about that, only the Suisei Egusa (which might have some use in the sortieing fleet) is worth equipping on carriers in support fleet over the T99 Egusa.

>>14253764
Sadly, there is only 1 Suisei Egusa and Type 99 Egusa gives 4 accuracy for the same power as the Suisei 12A.

>>14253748
I refuse to farm Sendai and Kinugusa are my favorite. fuck statswhore

Is it suspicious to the devs if my internet constantly disconnects, and I'm constantly reconnecting?

>>14253784
Which is why I think it should be 16 T99 Egusas and not 12.

This is very interesting, I had Kinugasa and Ooyodo with gun cut-in set up and the rest just regular double attack and they were always the focus of attack anyway. It might have been just two attempts, but I'm going to keep doing the same thing and see if cut-in ships are targeted more often.

>>14253863
Once you have sample size in the thousands of enemy attacks your research might actually prove useful. Good luck

>>14253876
That's just more than 100 days of testing, I'm going to get to the bottom of this because Spring and Summer event tickled my curiosity with people complaining about their cut-in ships going taiha before even reaching the boss, even mines.

>>14253678
I cheated and checked out for stuff that I used to have and still failed to bingo.
This guide is made for fucking whale with full 260slots and 2pages of married girls.

>>14253918
>2pages

You mean 5.

>>14253863
But everything will cancel out if everyone has a cut-in setup.

>>14253936
I tried that against a full married carrier fleet, but they had no fucking planes. I have never been so disappointed from a perfect S rank.

>>14253918
I expected the Abukumas to move and was mildly disappointed.

>>14254016
Which photo editing software let you do transparency and gif?
I only have paint.

>>14254105
How hilarious would it be for the people feeding Abukuma lots of luck, only to have the final map be SS Hime?

>>14254105
I use light stuff like gimp and paint.net, not sure if they have such thing, it probably has them tough.
>>14254142
There's a reason they are giving us sonars and shit, Abkm first ship with asw cut-in confirmed.

I read somewhere they introduce new game mechanics for every fall event. What are the chances ASW gets revamped entirely?

>>14254142
It's ok, 4 slot CLs will gat an ASW cut-in with three T4 Sonars and the all-new T4 Depth Charge that's a Hard-only reward from the previous event map.

>>14254152
paint.net has plug-ins for literally everything.
Based open-source

Maybe Isuzu will get ASW cut-in!!!
Which will give additional 10% boost meaning she'll still be inferior to Ooyodo.

>>14254142
It essentially gives them more time to prepare their designated cut-in ships for future events.

More UI improvements next update, apparently.

>>14254177
24.9%

>>14252547
@2:50
Holy shit, I laught.

Sure, fine, but could you please dodge a torpedo every once in a while?

american ships when

>>14254177
The events that brought major overhauls so far have been spring 2014's artillery spotting and LoS routing, summer 2014's ship locking and combined fleets, and summer 2015's plane leveling. Spring 2015 arguably did it too by revamping the whole difficulty system. Whoever said fall events are when things change up was full of shit. Though it's not uncommon for most events to try something new. Last fall's was just a freebie that most people cleared in a day, but 2013's tried night to day battles and had the first use of sanshiki on installations.

>>14254188
Oh yodo is cute but Isuzu will be forever the best everything, fuck the devs.

>>14254260
Last fall introduced AACI.

>>14254177
>>14254260
Spring 2013: Boss gauges, ship type restriction for maps (returning during autumn 2014), enemy submarines
Summer 2013: Support expeditions
-Interlude-: Battles starting at night
Autumn 2013: Night-to-day battles (returning when?)
Winter 2013/14: Level scaling
-Interlude-(a): Equipment branching rules (drums); resource collection determined by drum count
-Interlude-(b): Extra Operations
Spring 2014: Artillery spotting, LoS branching rules (with animation)
Summer 2014: Combined fleet sortie (carrier task force), air battle nodes, ship locking
Autumn 2014: Combined fleet sortie (surface task force), AA cut-in (added halfway through), different EXP for different enemy fleets
Winter 2015: Difficulty levels (replacing level scaling)
-Interlude-: Non-battle boss node
Spring 2015: Active branching
-Interlude-: Recon for resources
Summer 2015: Enemy debuffing

>>14254260
It was Winter that introduced the difficulty selection, Spring was the freebie that brought nothing new to the table besides Super Taitei-chan and Pasta BBs.

>>14254304
Oh almost forgot.

Summer 2015 also had plane ranks.

>>14254304
What were the cairrers role pre artillery spotting update? I started in jan 2014 but I dont remember much of back then, I got "serious" during my first event.

>>14254333
And they were heavily countered by strongest enemy AACI.

>>14254340
I wouldn't know since all I did was stuff 3 green 1 red on them back then.

>>14254304
Not sure if it's a game mechanic, but when were installation enemies and sanshiki bonus a thing?

>>14254340
They weren't Reppuu mules and you could actually put attack planes on them. If you didn't need AS, which actually happened back then, then their role was pretty much kill as much shit as possible in the opening phase and hopefully nuke something during shelling.

>>14254363
Autumn 2013. Forgot about those too.

>>14254259
Had a dream last night that the fall event had SS Hime final boss and the drop was CV Enterprise.

>>14254349
>stronger enemy AACI
It's stayed the same, we only need Tsu flagship to tear us a new asshole. She's best girl.

>>14254363
IBS.

How fucked will you be if Fall requires seaplane tenders?

>>14254349
Nope. E3 was worse for planes than E7. Takoyaki Kai > Antizuki AACI.

>>14254378
Lvl 24 Chiyoda will be fine right guys

>>14254378
I will have Mizuwho at a decent level by then so probably pretty okay

>>14254378
You tell me.

>>14254378
Kamo will lead me to victory.

>>14254378
I'm ready for slow ship bullying, I already remodeled Chiyoda.

>>14254378
Fucked. As in, Tanaka is fucked.

>>14254378
I have Kamo and Mizuho but they aren't really leveled at all. In all honesty just having them as flagship with the rest of my OP boats supporting will be just fine.

>>14254351
Well I remember I used crazy setups by today's standards, nothing else really.
>>14254364
This is what Im asking, what was the purpose of FP back in the day?

>>14254378
Damm I am shaking from fear together with my Kamo-chan and 3 >> Taitei-chan

>>14254142
>implying MEGA ABKM ASW is bad
Mine has 89 ASW right now.

>>14254417
People don't go for AS+ back in the days.
What most will do is to equip tons of blue and red and minimal number of green planes like now to avoid air denial.

The proficiency update allowed to go back to the IBS era while letting us get AS with ease.

>>14254427
Basically 3 attack 1 green, like we all did in the scrub days. That explains a lot about the jump in popularity of all carriers in 2014.

How do you even train AVs?

>>14254445
PvP, 5-4 works for Chitoses.

>>14254445
Film more porn.

>>14254454
And they can carry sonar + depth charge if you want to bring them to 4-3.

>>14254445
They are like cute and balanced versions of the torpedosluts, its not that hard.

>>14254464
kek

>>14254105
That face is so stupid and makes no sense.

>>14254535
Exactly.

>>14254535
>>14254568
Please no bully

I don't know what to do, I already have her.

>>14254647
Sell her for who are in need.

>>14254647
Kai her for equipment then toss her.

>>14254647
Threesome

>>14254372
Not that fast. We haven't seen RN or France girl yet.

>>14254378
If it only needs 1 I can just power level one easily.

Teruzuki is insane, she hit Chitose for 54 damage and torpedoed Hyuuga for 25. I'm having high expectations for next event.

>>14254694
Indeed, she hit flag Ta at 5-4 with 3 drums for 45. She's my 2nd highest level DD now.

What breed of dog is Yuudachi supposed to look like?

>>14254417
I never used CVs at all. Just slap CLTs + BBs or any branching rules ship type with double attack at night and you're set. The torpedo during day battle was alot stronger and single attack often miss though

>>14254789
The extinct poi dog.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_Poi_Dog

mfw when ingame Kuma goes back to being ugly in a week.

>>14254817
At least she isn't Ooboro.

>>14254832
Hey at least Oboro got a cute swimsuit and yukata sprite.
I am still upset as fuck that Kusobono didn't get to keep her sprite. Cute as fuck.

>>14254674
More than two years of waiting for BB Richelieu reporting in.

>>14254860
You know Kusobono has a fishing sprite now right?

>>14254860
mfw akeboner is also going back to being ugly in some time.

>>14254913
She'll always be ugly inside so it's no big deal.

>>14254817
>>14254913
>he doesn't even know what mfw means
You stupid motherfucker why are you even posting that bullshit if you don't know what it means?

>>14254966
>not using inigo picture

So you run both supports for 5-5?

>>14254966
mfw when someone poo poos me when I use mfw

>>14254817
>>14254913
Leave, leave and never come back.
You are the cancer killing /jp/ and the rest of the boards.
>tfw you will never have comfy pre2012 slow boards again

>>14254982
Do you even understand what you're posting?

Sorry if this is a question that has been asked a lot, but what is everyone using to play? Since around a month ago api has basically stopped working for me; I can use the link once but I'll get cat everytime after that. Using KCV cookie method kinda works, but I have to delete cache every time otherwise I get a http 400 error. Any advice?

This game is fucking with me on a new level.
>>14255131
I'm playing it via DMM on frame with KC3kai using Chrome and the cookie method as instructed in the wikia.

>>14255131
Bake cookie using IE
Then use Grabacr stock KCV to access the game page directly
http://www.dmm.com/netgame/social/-/gadgets/=/app_id=854854/

I don't like all the fork version, "CVB", lel

>>14255242
What are you doing on 2-3 with such an overkill fleet?

>>14255326
I'm using the Bd7 as a lazy excuse to level my ships.

There's no point having a dupe Zuikaku and Shoukaku right?

Eww

>>14255372
Is a man not allowed to love his waifu?

>>14255372
>gensui
>3memedal
Seems like you are just jelly.

>>14255365
There's no point until prototype decks become less rare.

Will we get Zkk2 before or after the event? What do you think?

>>14255365
It really depends how you look at it. Regular Shoukaku was good for Reppuu mule and Shoukaku kai 2 makes her better. But switching between kai 2 and kai 2A is annoying. I'm against dupes though.

>>14255381
Maybe if you aren't too much of a scrub. You jelly yet?

>>14255403
Forgot my image.
>>14255391
I'm thinking on the next maintenance.

>>14255391
After, we already got her sister.

>>14255400
I'll probably end up using only one form of Shoukaku anyways. I guess I can get rid of them

>>14255391
Together with the event.

>>14255391
During.

>>14255372
Say that to my face and not online and see what happens

>>14255391
After

What map is this guy clearing?

>>14255592
3-3 farming.

Any suggestion for rank farming at 5-4?
I hopelessly use SS now. But I want other composition to keep my buckets in check.

>>14255372
>>14255460
Jesus Christ that's literally shit taste.

>>14255660
You will use buckets either way. Doing north uses resources and buckets, you cannot win.

What's a good fleet/loadout for 6-1?

>>14255704
ABKM
Token torpedo slut
Taihou or Shoukaku
Yuu
Dechi
Iku

>>14255711
What planes should I put on Shoukaku? I kind of want to bring a saiun unless it isn't necessary.

>>14255704
4BB2CV

>>14255678
OK. But which do you think the most efficient?

>>14255724
Up to you.
Aim for air parity and then load up on bombers.
I think if you go with saiun, you can avoid bringing seiran for any of your SSV.

>>14255724

Remember that Saiun also disables Red T for the ENEMY fleet, so if you want to survive the pre-boss nodes you might not want to bring a Saiun.

>Can't even neutralize red T
Shit, right?

>>14255751
Wait until the conversion quest like the other special planes.

>>14255765
>Implying you'd get quest for ranking rewards
Ranking fags on suicide watch

>>14255765
God no, I don't want to make Saiun nor Type2 for that.

>>14255769
>casualcolle defending his 300k rsc no e-peen filth

>>14255751
I don't get why many people hate red-t.
To me it is more desirable than hankousen.

>>14255769
It will be an even reward, but can only convert 1 from the quest, so rankfags get to keep the base and the new plane. If not, rankfags are stuck with another useless piece of equipment.

>>14255782
Having a red T drastically lowers your chances of beating hard maps like E-7. That's like automatic defeat unless RNG favors you.

>>14255783
I can see it now. Event rewards will be Nanzan and Keiun on later maps. This is going to be a shitfest.

>>14255793
>Having a red T drastically lowers your chances of beating hard maps like E-7
What are you talking about, it drastically improved your chances to clear E-7.
1. Their armor is so high you will only ever deal scratch damage so engagement form doesn't matter
2. You have high enough firepower to 1shot the scrub escort with Red-T
3. All your ships can survive the shelling phase due to enemy reduced damaged
4. Yasen is not affected by Red-T

Cleared it 1shot with Red-T.

>>14255782
Most of the time in hard map, enemy can still rekt even in Red-T while you cannot sink them.

>>14255804
That's not how it works. Just because you got lucky doesn't mean others would have been lucky as you. How many other players who cleared it with red T?

AA Hime was the only one who has high armor, and you can cripple or even sink her in day battle with artillery spotting. You can also cripple 2 BB Hime to death which reduces your chances of your torp goddesses to aim at them.

I doubt you could one-shot elite Ne, but let it be known her and DD escorts have high evasion, so it's not that reliable.

Red T is like hankousen except you're at disadvantage, the himes can chuuha your ships while you can't.

Yes, but when your enemy fleet has 1-2 escorts alive, that's the time when you have to believe in god.

>>14255804
1) False.
2) The chances are significantly reduced.
3) Enemy damage isn't reduced. In fact, ships are more likely to go straight to red because there's a lower chance of sinking protection keeping them at orange. Even Yamatos can go from full to red in one hit.
4) Yasen is affected when you have more enemies still alive and more of your ships are red.

>Cleared it 1shot
Cleared it in 0 attempts a year early.

>>14255804
1-3 are all false, and 4 is misleading because the enemy escort ships are significantly more likely to survive the day phase.

1)BB-Hime blockers can and do die or get brought to Taiha before night battle with better engagements. It was also possible to get a 100+ point crit on her during day battle on Doukousen or better.

2)Tsu-Elite has 68 armor, and Ne-Elite has 89 armor, anything but a BB/CV or CLT torpedoes is automatically scratch against them, and BB cant even reliably kill Ne-Elite with 2 sets of double attack.

3)BB-Hime has ~130 firepower after RedT modifier is applied, which is more than enough to send anything in the escort fleet besides perhaps the BB to taiha in one hit. If there is a CV-Hime it is even worse, she is above the firepower cap even at redT.

Can someone help me? I don't know where to train Musashi. PvP is reliable but slow, 3-2A and 5-4A are lottery since the plane update with these random 300 dmg crits from the CVs even at 0 morale. I tried 5-2 but the sub node and the Ta line ahead bother me. I'm even thinking of doing 5-4 full map, the fuel node compensating the maelstrom.

>>14256011
Stick them in your 4-3 fleet and do it passively, they'll usually always get MVP at node J and maybe even steal from the DD. That's how I got my Nagatos to level 80. Hel, you could even put them as flagship to make things go a little faster.

>>14256011
Well firstly, you're doing it wrong, because you're using CVs.
Secondly, what planes are you using?

>>14256023
I'm farming Souryuu/Hiryuu/Kita/Ooi at the same time. I use 2 Type 97 Tomonaga squadron on each CV (2). It's either i kill 3-4 ships in the opening phase with the sub and Kita torp or i do nothing but scratch damage. It's so random, i can't sparkle Musashi everytime she loses MVP i'm not that crazy.

>>14256052
>using planes that powerful
Of course you're going to lose MvP, Souryuu and Hiryuu practically reach daycap without planes.
I recommend using CVLs with two double Chevron fighterbombers or type 97 dive bombers, and the remaining slots with weak air radars.

>>14256077
Using bad planes for 3-2A, sure but 5-4A? If a lot of ships survive the opening phase, i will get a better chance for MVP but also to eat a closing torpedo phase and no S rank. Once the planes are double chevrons, even shitty planes will not prevent 150+ dmg crits. But maybe i'm wrong, i will test it.

>>14256100
I've never run a 5-4a setup with 4 fatigued CVLs, it's usually fatigued CVLs with 3 weak, but chevron'd blue planes, and 2CAs with a CI setup. If you rotate the CAs, you'll almost always S before torp phase.

>>14255279
But Grabacr's KCV calls VV-class and Bismarck CCs.

>>14255365
There's only a point if you're collecting all the married CGs.

I'm trying to clear 5-5 now and could use some help.
How do you guys equip your ships in support expedition? Also is aerial support now usable or is shelling still the way to go?

>>14256189
Shelling still default

You could try aerial and post results for us for shits and giggles

>>14256195
I'll pass on that.
I'm stuck on BB and CV(L) equipment though.
Do you use seaplanes? Or radar + AP shell.
Do you use Ryuusei double chevron if your red planes aren't leveled?

Also DD I guess. All radar or 2 guns one radar?

>>14256201
I plop 3 radars on my dds since their guns don't matter much. Focus on the accuracy stat

2 reds on each cv, + 2 32s

2 46/51s + 2 32s on the bbs

46/51s have no penalty in support so put them in if you've upgraded them

Work the planes out yourself with what you have. Most people love the accuracy stat

>>14256201
2x 46cm + 2x T32 radar. No need for upgrades.

For planes I'd personally go with 4 double chevron red planes (Suisei M12A is slightly better than Ryuusei Kai) but according to someone here plane ranks don't affect shelling support (also does it affect aerial?). Still no source on that though. Anyway if that's the case you shouldn't go wrong with 3 bombers (Suisei M12A/Ryuusei Kai tier or better) 1 radar.

For DDs it's 3 radars.

>>14256201

>>14256052
>I use 2 Type 97 Tomonaga squadron on each CV (2).
Every fucking time, it's clueless idiots.
Assisted by PvP, it took Musashi 63 levels to go chuuha on 5-4-A over the course of exactly five days.
Scratch from torps is irrelevant, repairing the CVL five times during whole process won't kill you.

>>14256206
>>14256210
Well I see why everyone's crying about T32 if it's a staple here.
So AP shell doesn't give bonuses for armored enemies in support then?
I'll keep in mind about the red planes, really have to level them soon. They don't see much use in actual sorties.

All these conflicting information floating about the net though. Accuracy/overweight/AP matters on one side and don't matter on the other.

I recall seeing someone posting a table that said 51cms have no penalty whatsoever in normal sorties on both Nagato and Yamato during the event as well.

>>14256214
Thank you for posting this image again. I didn't quite understand it the first time but now I see.
Going to save it down.

Does it account for chevron ranks though?

>>14256210
Eh, disregard that, Suisei M12A has the same damage stat added as Ryuusei Kai. Forgot that the damage got modified.

>>14256221
>So AP shell doesn't give bonuses for armored enemies in support then?
No idea, because no one's tested them yet. Priority's given to accuracy when it comes to support fleet.

>>14256233
>Forgot that the damage got modified.
>>14256214
Wait, when did it happen? That means DBs are even worse than we thought?

>>14256238
From x2 to x1.95, nothing too big.

>>14256221
Overweight penalty doesn't apply in support fleet. Stack 2x 46 on krsm and she still hits fine. Some tests by a guy who did 300+ runs after the last event

I've said this a lot in the past, if you're new to the game and missing reppuus and radars spam 20/20/250/250 with a CV flag

>>14256259
Nah I'm past Reppuus now. Have eight of them and two 601s.
I only crafted one T32 in the past and didn't continued because AP shells are almost always better.

ｷﾀ━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━!!

>>14256354
Congrats! Now get her to Kai.

CV - Carrier
CVL - Light Carrier
CV(L) - Umbrella term specifically for when either can be used in a comp

>>14256373
Yes and?

>>14256376
Dealing with wikia and reddit retards is taxing.

Blue.

>>14256377
You don't have to do that.

For sonars upgrading, is it better to upgrade T3 sonars or should I use those T3 to make T4s from T93s?

>>14256184
>Grabacr's KCV calls VV-class and Bismarck CCs.
What are you talking about?
Are you sure you arent using some gook fork?

>>14256487
You don't use T3 for making T4.

But I'm curious as well. Right now I'm stuck upgrading Bisko guns and Quints but Sonars bother me.

>>14256524
You do for upgrading.

>>14256496

>>14256524
You do use one per T93 to T4.

>>14256389
Red.

I just got Shioi from LSC using 4/5.9/6/2/1 (intended to get Yamato but desire radar seems to be real). Should I push my Luck further?

>>14256487
You get 1xT4 from fishing.
Get another set of T4 so that you can make your sub killer get MVP easily. It is easy to get T93 by spamming 10 10 10 11 or 10 30 10 31

>>14256528
>>14256531
Fucking new wiki. Goddamnit, gotta do my reps and leave both of those shitty sites.

>>14256535
Worst Samefacetsuyu.

>>14256609
Probably because she doesn't have the same face, ironically.

>>14256610
I admit my defeat this time.
Fuck Kujo Ichiso, though.

Why do you keep using this spam thread?

Get over here >>14251505

>>14256389
I swear to god I will go to Japan and kill Ichiso if devs let him draw their kai ni

>>14256619
You're not my mother.

>>14256619
Stay mad.

>>14256618
I want to fuck hai hai.

>>14256673
How did she turn from bland into pure concentrated sex?

>>14256684
Fuel tank modernization.

>>14256684
She was always my favorite Shiratsuyu and I was disappointed that people focused on Shigure and Poi instead just because they had Kai Ni. At least other girls from the class receive some love with all the sprites this year.

>>14256684
>bland
sure mate

>>14256684
Every time she drops I remember that I still don't have her new kai art. Then I quickly forget her as I go about my daily routine. Same for number one.

>>14256626
Better book that ticket now m8

>>14256673
I wonder if anyone still have pic of basketball american with the same pose as murasame.

Fuck this gay quest.

>>14256849
>tfw completed it in one try without using any support

What's Yuubari good for?

>>14256874
Being cute.

>>14256874
Being cuter than Ooyodo.

>>14256891
But Ooyodo is cuter.

>>14256874
>>14256874
To carry fishing equipment

>>14256874
Suggestive slurping and giving me random boners.

Why is Italia so fucking useless? She went from 64 to 18 HP on Wo node. I should have given that blueprint to Amagi.

>>14256999
Amagi doesn't give you an OTO though.

>top 20 going 100 per reset since yesterday
lmao do i even bother

>>14257025
Hmm, that's a good point.

>>14257031
Subs or married fleet?

Is hard mode doable with average non-upgraded equipment like 20.3cm guns and 41cm guns?

How essential are good equips?

>>14257041
80% sub 20% north
i think i'm pretty fucked because these japs probably haven't cleared EOs either

>>14257061
Good luck anon, I believe in you.

>>14257031
Meanwhile in the newest server you could get to top 20 by Orel cruising

Please protect my gains mayasama

Why is Jun'you K2 so much better than Ryuujou?

Why the fuck does she have such high evasion when her speed is terrible?

>>14257076
Truk is suffering.

>>14257031
Was Iwagawa always this crazy?

When will the Friends function be introduced?

>>14257094
It's the fucking plane. Everyone wants it. And watch it not being the reward next month.

>>14257103
Why the fuck would you want that piece of shit? It's going to be an event reward anyway, only to get scrapped to get a better plane.

>>14257097
When Shinano gets added.