/jp/ - Otaku Culture

GARBAGE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>14163170
No. Unlike Touhou, Kancolle has no class, no depth and the people jumping ship are degenerates Touhou doesn't need anyway. They are only in it for the fanservice and porn. They really are the scum of the earth and we would be better off by putting a global ban on anything Kancolle related.

No, TH13 did

>>14163554
>Kancolle
>small c

No. Boats are already dying.

>>14163170
Touhou is still going strong. It's just /jp/ that's dead.

>>14163788
>autism

>>14163758
I just tried playing th13 again a little while ago. I still have no idea what the hell ZUN was thinking with normal mode, but I have to say the music was way more impressive than I had remembered.

>>14163170

More like Touhou killed Kancolle, which still has a grand total of one game.

>>14171162
>Kancolle
>small c

Kancer collection is DEAD

>>14163554
B-but they have ship, gun and military stuff! And cute girl too.

>>14163170
Kanollie is already on the decline

Nah, but it certainly does seem to have provided a good magnet to separate the secondary chaff who only want cute girls in quirky outfits

>>14171162
Isn't the company who did it making that MonMusu game and in almost the exact same format to boot?
I mean, I guess that might count as a second one? In a kinda, sorta, totally grasping at straws way.

>>14172228
DMM (publisher) has a lot of similar "mobile collection game but in a browser" games. Kadokawa Games (developer) has developed like a million other games, some of which are shitty collection games, some of which aren't.

Though there is a Vita game and an arcade game that are going to be released never.

Uhhhh.
Touhou exists because of ZUN. Even if it were to grow less popular, if ZUN were to still continue producing games, it would still be a thing. KanColle is alright, I guess? But it lacks the single-focused-person drive that touhou has.

Yes, part of what makes touhou great is the large devoted fandom. KanColle also has a large devoted fandom currently... but the only way it could kill Touhou is if somehow ZUN converted to KanColle, which is so unlikely as to be ludicrous.

>>14165788
What's wrong with it? I haven't played it yet.

kuso thread.

Not at all, I think it actually helped Touhou in a way.
Kancolle seems to attract the worst, most autistic kinds of retards as evidenced by this guy >>14163788 >>14171497 and the daily drama over who gets to make the next boatfucker general thread. They've helped by converting a lot of trash like that from touhou and keep them away and for that, I am glad it exists.
I don't think the franchise itself is that bad, but holy shit the fanbase.

>>14172463
The "drama" over who gets to make the boatfucker thread is basically everybody in the thread versus one autistic retard trying to run Kancolle off the board by making deliberately shitty OPs.

>I don't think the franchise itself is that bad, but holy shit the fanbase.
sanae is a slut XDDDDDDDDDDD

>>14172463
>Kancolle
>small c

>>14172469
>>14172470

>>14163788
>>14171497
>>14172470

>CancerColle

fix'd

>>14172478
If you think he's a fan I have some bad news for you.

>>14172469
>is basically everybody in the thread versus one autistic retard trying to run Kancolle off the board by making deliberately shitty OPs

The only difference I see in either general thread is one url to a guide, hardly a justification for calling a shitty OP and make another goddamn thread separate from it. They're being just as bad as this "autistic retard" individual when they're competing over who gets to outdo the other and attempt to have the other's thread deleted by janny.

>>14172521
>The only difference I see in either general thread is one url to a guide, hardly a justification for calling a shitty OP and make another goddamn thread separate from it.
He once went out of his way to deliberately misspell the links in the OP, and, a few months back, spammed OPs advertising a Steam group around thirty times until he finally got tired of the mods nuking his threads on sight.

Every now and then he bumps 30 or 50 threads from page five through ten so that the thread he doesn't like will be the last thread on page 10.

The OP doesn't really matter all that much but people don't feel like rewarding someone who has been engaging in a continuous harassment campaign against them for the better part of a year.

So 2hu fans hate kancolle because it stole all of the fanart and doujin artists, right?

Kanshitters are the worst
saitei..

>did kancolle kill touhou
>2 duplicate kancolle threads and possibly 40-50 touhou threads

you might be right OP

>>14172601
Most of 4chan's Kancolle fans are actually in /a/.

>>14172551
The irony is that they're making every one of them look bad when they consistently have two threads on page 1, both with hundreds of posts and different IPs. They also lose all legitimacy in their complaints when they're the ones starting a second thread, based only the logic that they don't like the OP in the other, already existing thread.

It's just such a petty non-issue that I'm having difficulty wrapping my head around why this is even a thing in the first place.

>>14172562
The only people who seriously jumped ship as it were are the kind of cretins who were only doing touhou stuff because it was the hottest shit at the time.

>>14172604
>Kancolle
>small c

>>14172612

>th-they were all filthy secondaries anyway!

Who y'all quoting?

Reimu, quickly, close the barrier! Your fans are escaping to check out the new shit over at KanColle!

>>14163554
>jumping ship
clever girl

>>14163554

>no class
what are ship classes (Myoukou-class,Nagato-class,etc..)

>no depth
what are depth charges

>jumping ship
ships dont jump they sail

>>14172463
>2hu calling other fanbases cancer
sup

>>14173838
If Touhoufags are in a position to call Kancolle shitters cancer, that just goes to show how much worse they are. Think about that for a while retard

>>14173838
/jp/ at this point in time can be likened to one large tumor.

>>14163170
2hu killed itself

What do you have in your wheelbarrow, Rin? What? The Toho franchise?! Hey, come back with that!

I dislike Kancolle because it's a huge cashgrab made by huge companies who don't give a shit about making something good or interesting or fun; it makes otaku look like retards who would eat up anything as long as it had generic sluts or cute girls, it's basically the maximum expression of exclusive pure pandering and they don't try to hide it. The game itself is a shitty browser game and boring as shit, shilling on 2ch and buying of doujin artists by Kadokawa/DMM were suspected since the start, and to top it off it's pro-Abe revisionist propaganda since they know modern otaku wet their pants over that shit. It's literally the embodiment of everything wrong with modern otaku culture and I can't stand looking at it.

>>14173858
>>14174570
>Kancolle
>small c

I dislike Touhou because it's a huge cashgrab made by a drunk who doesn't give a shit about making something good or interesting or fun; it makes otaku look like retards who would eat up anything as long as it had generic sluts or cute girls, it's basically the maximum expression of exclusive pure pandering and they don't try to hide it. The game itself is a shitty shooting game that no one plays anyway, shilling on 2ch and buying of doujin artists by ZUN were suspected since the start, and to top it off it's pro-Abe revisionist propaganda since they know modern otaku wet their pants over that shit. It's literally the embodiment of everything wrong with modern otaku culture and I can't stand looking at it.

reclining lmbo

I dislike /jp/ because it's a huge shithole made by a cuck who doesn't give a shit about making something good or interesting or fun; it makes anons look like retards who would eat up anything as long as it had generic meme threads or "I wanna be a little girl" threads, it's basically the maximum expression of exclusive pure shitposting and they don't try to hide it. The board itself is a shitty imageboard that no one uses anyway, shilling on /a/ and buying of moderators by moot were suspected since the start, and to top it off it's pro-Japan propaganda since they know modern /jp/sies wet their pants over that shit. It's literally the embodiment of everything wrong with modern internet culture and I can't stand looking at it.

>>14174720
you need a dose of toluene

>>14174720
>it makes anons look like retards who would eat up anything as long as it had generic meme threads or "I wanna be a little girl" threads
It's not 2010 more, dude. They're all gone now. We finally won the war on memes.

The biggest reason people hate on KanColle is that many Touhou circles have been moving on to create KanColle stuff, a community which is far more active, more refreshing to work in and has a greater demand for fan-related works.
Imagine the feeling you'd get if you're into Touhou and all your favourite creators move away from the series you love to work on something you don't particularly care about. You'd probably get pretty salty, but it's hard to fault them since most circles create doujin to build notoriety as mangaka, musicians or artists.

There is also the fact that some people don't like how KanColle moe-fies WWII. I personally don't have an issue with it, but hey, those people exist.

>>14163183
Posting the Reddit Fish should be a bannable offense.

>>14172463
Touhou singlehandedly ruined /jp/.
Compare this board in 2008 to what's left now.
You faggots literally turned this place into /c/ - 2hu edition (+ idols)

>>14175888
>The biggest reason people hate on KanColle is that many Touhou circles have been moving on to create KanColle stuff
>but it's hard to fault them since most circles create doujin to build notoriety as mangaka, musicians or artists.
This. As much as like Touhou, it's pretty obvious that it isn't as popular and profitable now like it was ten years ago.

>>14175913
But the "this is bait" meme originated on /a/.

>>14175888
Why did it have to be gay ass boats though? Why not tanks or planes?

>>14175951
Because the ships had individual names and played a more important role in history.
Ships also weren't mass produced as a weapon like planes and tanks were. They weren't as expendable as some randomass fighter or tank.

>>14163876
>>14172601
>>14172661
>>14173838
who are you guys quoting?

>>14172683
>>14176041
It doesn't matter who we're quoting. What matters is our plan.

>>14175951
What are you gay? Ships are far superior to lame tanks and planes.

>>14176043
I don't get it, is that a meme?

>>14176089
Yeah, it's pretty big.

>>14176096
Ok but can you post it on another board, I don't like it.

>>14176096
For you.

>>14175888
>>14175933

Daily reminder ZUN is tired of running a doujin "monopoly" and wants some competition.

>>14175951

>planes

Girls und Panzer although not mecha musume.

>planes

Strike Witches or more literally Virgin Strike and Flight Highschool if that really counts

>>14175951

>tanks

Girls und Panzer although not mecha musume.

>planes

Strike Witches or more literally Virgin Strike and Flight Highschool if that really count

>>14176045

To be fair landing craft/amphibious assault ships are useless without tanks and aircraft carriers are useless without aircraft. Aircraft is also very useful for recon and SAR.

>>14175888
Bullshit, nobody is jealous of your shit. It's just shit. Literally no artist I like has moved to Kancolle. See >>14174570

>>14175917
This tbh fam

Japan / General RIP

>>14174570

>cashgrab

Kadokawa made the "game" for the sole purpose of being a niche thing not expecting much profit out of it(not even from merchandising). The sole reason of it's popularity is when Kouta Hirano made a tweet about how shit he was in playng the game.

Im not really here to defend Kancolle I'm just here to state some apparent facts.( The IJN is still my least favorite navy and I still praise the USN for kicking their ass)

>>14180399
>Japan / General RIP

Fuck off weeb

I just looked up kancolle and wow is it boring

>>14163554
That is entirely dependent on the community.

The bug difference is that Kancolle's community really sucks at introducing creative interpretations of canon of making serious works.

It limits the ability if the franchise to grow beyond the corporation.

>>14175917
Wasn't the main purpose of /jp/ to separate 2hu from /a/ as /vp/ was?

>>14180949
Basically, yes.

Real-deal Japanese culture lovers were always a small minority on 4chan, but Touhou and otaku obsessors >>14180949
became obnoxious enough for moot to kill 2 birds with one stone.

>>14180949
/jp/ was made to take everything that wasn't anime or manga and throw it off of /a/.

It failed.

>>14175917
>Touhou singlehandedly ruined /jp/.
This faggot ruined /jp/. It was doing fine with Touhou, VNs and self-moderation ( http://archive.is/MN7R ) but no, let's turn a completely functional board into a trash bin for the other boards' garbage that no one wants to moderate there. Voila, neo-/jp/ is born.

sage for meta and shit thread in general

>>14180419
>Kadokawa made the "game" for the sole purpose of being a niche thing not expecting much profit out of it(not even from merchandising).
Source: Kadokawa

>>14181607
Explain further. /a/ is mostly on topic and /jp/ seems mostly fine too. You just have to take in to account how many visitors to the latter make the voyage to Gensokyo per year. The fact that it's quiet just comes with the territory.

>>14180360
>>14180419
>>14180647
>Kancolle
>small c

>>14172298
>Touhou exists because of ZUN.
Well, he is the author after all, dude.

Still, the fanbase would keep existing for several years after ZUN dies or stop making progress with the series.
Of course, the numbers of fans will dwindle with time, but that's the natural course for any game that has been kept alive for so long, especially without that many changes to the original formula.

The thing is, eventually just a core of diehard fans will be left to rot(enjoy) what is left. (plus the renewed fans that get to discover the games).

Imagine one of those forums of old about series like megaman or metal slug.

DEL this fuckin' kuso ass shit thread.

DEL

>>14176374
CIA looks so big

>>14173838

Why would you call the Touhou fanbase cancerous? I mean sure, some aspects of it sucks, mainly those in the west that doesn't know how a doujin community works (see Touhou Smash fiasco) but in general no other fanbase in literally every other medium (sans Star Wars maybe just because of how huge it is) has created so much quality material for their series and is still going strong.

>>14175888

The number of circles that work on music, games and non-h doujins that migrated from Touhou from Kantai is extremely fucking small, and some of them, like Active NEETs, still do Touhou while also doing boats.

You are under the impression Touhou fans care that the horde of porn artists migrated to ships when the material everyone waits for is music and games. You think you have a point because when you see Comiket numbers and it looks impressive that Kantai is leading it now but when you look at the games preview videos or music preview videos you can count the number of Kaitai shit on a single hand but there are still dozens if not hundreds of Touhou works in each Comiket excluding hentai.

Don't get me wrong, Touhou porn is fine, I'm sure everyone here is waiting for the Clownpiece doujins, but at the end of the day no one will mourn that random porn artists that have always done the most popular thing to sell are doing ships now.

The day when people who actually matter, like Shibayan, Tosafro, DDBY, Halozy, Alstroemeria and so many others completely abandon Touhou and start exclusively working on Kantai is the day you will no longer be an uninformed retard posting bullshit on /jp/.

>>14184154
>The number of circles that work on music, games and non-h doujins that migrated from Touhou from Kantai is extremely fucking small, and some of them, like Active NEETs, still do Touhou while also doing boats.
If "put out a Kantai work" counts as having migrated (which I can't tell from what you wrote just here) there's no shortage of them at all.

>You are under the impression Touhou fans care that the horde of porn artists migrated to ships when the material everyone waits for is music and games.
Touhou still dominates the music and fangame department (Kantai fangames are banned entirely because of Kadokawa jewry), but don't kid yourself; the vast majority of what's sold as Comiket is fanbooks. There's a lot more people going home with boxes of doujinshi than boxes of CDs.

>>14184219

>the vast majority of what's sold as Comiket is fanbooks. There's a lot more people going home with boxes of doujinshi than boxes of CDs.

When did I ever deny that?

Yeah people like their wank material. But what you fail to realize is that it doesn't change much for, say lolicons, that their material features Shimakaze instead of Flandre. Sure, there are differences but both are fappable just the same and the attachment is stronger to the mangaka, not the characters.

Now music and games are completely different. A lot of the enjoyment Touhou fans get of from their favorite music artists is hearing ZUN's originals remixed in a bunch of different genres and styles. If that was suddenly replaced by Kantai stuff then yeah, it'd matter.

So again, as a reply to the first of this chain, no one is "getting salty" that some circles are making the jump because there is nothing of worth being lost for Touhou fans. People hate on Kantai for a lot of other reasons, and you can find them right here on this thread.

>>14184247
>Yeah people like their wank material
The vast majority of Touhou Project doujinshi is not wank material, though. Kantai Collection is a fap-bait franchise, but even there I think more than half the books being sold are all-ages.

>because there is nothing of worth being lost for Touhou fans.
I'm aware that /jp/ loves to shit on doujin artists, but if you think that Carcharias, RED-SIGHT, Ichimi, Makegumi Club, and LETRA are worthless shit circles (and I can think of various reasons to call them shit that are neither here nor there), then... that's your opinion and your opinion alone

>>14184247
>Yeah people like their wank material
The vast majority of Touhou Project doujinshi is not wank material, though. Kantai Collection is a fap-bait franchise, but even there I think more than half the books being sold are all-ages.

>because there is nothing of worth being lost for Touhou fans.
I'm aware that /jp/ loves to shit on doujin artists, but if you think that, for example, Carcharias, RED-SIGHT, Ichimi, Makegumi Club, and LETRA are worthless shit circles (and I can think of various reasons to call them shit that are neither here nor there), then you can hardly claim to be speaking for everyone.

>>14184265

>The vast majority of Touhou Project doujinshi is not wank material, though

I wouldn't know about that. What I do know is that the majority of the artists that migrated to Kantai are the ones doing ero.

>but even there I think more than half the books being sold are all-ages.

This is irrelevant to the discussion but I find that really unlikely, unless you count every single art image and not just manga.

>if you think that (...) are worthless shit circles, then you can hardly claim to be speaking for everyone.

What? I never said anything near that. In fact I implied the opposite when I said
>the attachment is stronger to the mangaka, not the characters.

If that was a bit confusing I apologize, but what I want to say is that people are attached to the ero artists first (as in their artstyle, their genres, etc), not what characters they draw. Sure there are waifufags around that want to fap to their favorite 2ho, but that is not for what the vast majority of people look for in hentai, what is sought after is good wank material and that is provided by good artists regardless of the source material.

This is inherently different from music and games since Touhou fans will look for Touhou things in those specifically, and not having them can diminish the enjoyable factor by a bunch, especially if the new source is shit.

Touhou made it into Groove Coaster. That's all I care about. The sheer fact that Groove Coaster is getting bigger with Touhou at its side makes me more than satisfied.

>>14184311
>This is irrelevant to the discussion but I find that really unlikely
See attached.

>What? I never said anything near that.
The artists I've listed are all primarily non-ero artists. I don't know why you refuse to even consider all-ages books as a category.

>>14184342

>See attached.

I stand corrected I guess, though I don't completely understand the image.

>I don't know why you refuse to even consider all-ages books as a category.

That is mostly because I personally can't comment. I've read Touhou non ero before and some were fine but it was mostly just that, fanon. I don't really care and the official stuff has always been much more attractive to me.

Now since we are talking about Touhou fans in general and not just me, I again can't talk about communities in other websites (Gensokyo.org has a large fanon following I think) but I can't recall a single thread in recent memory about all-ages Touhou doujin here. I've seen some, but it is usually one every 6 months and even those don't pertain to discussions of them, usually just for recommendations which are the same old that have been recommended for years.

Meanwhile the Comiket Music Thread is on the its 7th iteration already, and at the very, very least, half of it is Touhou.

It's hard for people to be salty about losing something if they never cared for it in the first place.

And finally, I don't know how many of the relevant non ero circles did the jump (as in completely abandoned Touhou) since I don't follow them, and I don't feel like taking your word for it.

>>14184389
>I stand corrected I guess, though I don't completely understand the image.
A list of boats, the number of books they got at Comiket, and how many of them were ero. Only the flagship fap-bait characters have a ratio over half.

>it was mostly just that, fanon.
No shit. It's doujinshi. A tremendous amount of the Touhou fandom is embedded in fan creations, including most of the Japanese side. Even if all you do is follow music releases, at least look at the PVs. Fanon shit everywhere.

>I can't recall a single thread in recent memory about all-ages Touhou doujin here.
We used to get them on a continual basis, story-time and all, before a bunch of people decided such things were beneath them. These days they're deader than the soku threads.

Other than the fact that nobody cares anymore, doujinshi also don't follow the Comiket release schedule because the majority of people are dependent on the translation release schedule, which is done by volunteers and pretty much random.

>I don't feel like taking your word for it.
Then do your own research instead of just shoving your fingers in your ears and shouting no.

>>14184430

>Other than the fact that nobody cares anymore

Oh, so you agree.

I'm only just arguing that the things people care about aren't being taken away by Kantai.

>>14184512
>I'm only just arguing that the things people care about aren't being taken away by Kantai.
By "nobody" I mean nobody in /jp/. If you're talking about /jp/, actually mention /jp/ instead of referring to all Touhou fans like /jp/ forms any sort of remotely representative group (it doesn't).

As your explanation of why people hate Kantai -

>>14184247
>People hate on Kantai for a lot of other reasons, and you can find them right here on this thread.
Most of it boils down to "corporate franchise" and I've yet to see IM@S get even half the shit that Kancolle does.

>>14184528
>nobody
there are still people who like and follow these things, it's just that there's rarely anything to talk about.

>>14163758
Ten Desires was great, fight me now.

It is like every single one of you forgot about Reitaisai.

As long as ther's a steady stream of paizuri art for both I don't care LOL

>>14184741

I thought Ten Desires was great as well. I just notice at that time, meme PVs basically dropped dead.

because you know secondaries ran most of the fandom

>>14163170
This stupid "rivalry" is never going to end, is it?

>>14184389
>but I can't recall a single thread in recent memory about all-ages Touhou doujin here
>Meanwhile the Comiket Music Thread is on the its 7th iteration already
Because majority of /jp/ users are EOP. You don't need to know moonspeak to enjoy the music, but you need to wait months and years for comic stuff to be translated.
Each Comiket/Reitaisai gives us tons of music at once. And that's why we can have a thread with sharing, recommendations and discussions. Those threads don't have a long single album discussion, they are for absolutely all released music.
On the other hand we get translated doujinshis in small portions. Every 2-3 days one non-H doujinshis is translated. It is always uploaded to the same place (gensokyo.org/sadpanda/danbooru) so there is no need for link sharing. And there is very little to discuss unless this doujin is extraordinary good or very controversial. We would need to have some kind of "2hu doujinshi general" for that, but I would rather have no discussion at all than such a thread.

tl;dr people do care about non-h doujinshis, but it's hard to notice in /jp/.

You betcha.

https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=touhou%2C%20kancolle&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT%2B4

>>14175888
>You'd probably get pretty salty
/jp/ uses tumblr speak these days?

>>14185247
Why English terms?
https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=%E6%9D%B1%E6%96%B9%2C%20%E8%89%A6%E3%81%93%E3%82%8C&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT%2B4

Also it clearly shows that UFO did the most damage to Touhou. Worst game, worst characters.

>>14184960
This.

People with the best skills usually apply it on whatever is popular. Unless you can make your own image, it is better to ride the latest trends.

>>14185271
The term is originally from the fighting game community, which is it's own separate strain of awful; I don't know how old it is.

>>14184112
>I WANT TO FUCK KYOUKO
>YUKARI BOOBS ARE WAITING YOU
>LMAO DUDE WHO CARES ABOUT CANON JUST CIRCLEJERK
>BECAUSE I DON'T PLAY THE GAMES DOESN'T MEAN I'M A SECONDARY

Meanwhile in Facebook:
>FLANDREE <3 <3 ^,^
>ONE-SAMA WILL BEAT YOU
>post image with no caption on it.
Literally retardation
>whad wuld ju du im gebnsogio?

Don't make me mention tumblr please.

>>14185606
Now pick a fanbase that's not cancerous.

>>14185606
I never figured out why it got popular for everyone to rabidly shit on everything that deviates from canon. ZUN's work is a gross butchering of Japanese mythology to begin with, so why get mad at fans for changing it up?

If it weren't different from the original there would barely be any point to it.

>>14185606
>LMAO DUDE WHO CARES ABOUT CANON JUST CIRCLEJERK
I never figured out why it got popular for everyone to rabidly shit on everything that deviates from canon. ZUN's work is a gross butchering of Japanese mythology to begin with, so why get mad at fans for changing it up?

If it weren't different from the original there would barely be any point to it.

>>14181661

>>14184528
>Kancolle
>small c

>>14175917
/jp/ was allways intended to have crap like touhou on it. If you don't like it then why are you here.

>>14175888
>There is also the fact that some people don't like how KanColle moe-fies WWII

Yeah that always annoyed me
It reminds me of Hetalia and Hetalia-related faggotry

>>14185606

You act like every other fanbase is devoid of such faggots. Literally every Otaku related fandom is going to have a good amount of people acting like that, if you dislike it then pick up a book or something. They have their own sort of fags though.

>>14185635

>ZUN's work is a gross butchering of Japanese mythology to begin with, so why get mad at fans for changing it up?

>If it weren't different from the original there would barely be any point to it.

This is probably the most asinine post I've read on /jp/ all year.

>>14186386
>This is probably the most asinine post I've read on /jp/ all year.
Yours is worse.

>>14185606
All you're really demonstrating is that 4chan, facebook and tumblr are cancerous. Well, duh.

>>14185606
Your post is more cancerous than anything you tried to reproach. Just kill yourself.

>>14188030
Back to your circlejerking fagottry, secondary.

>>14188072
I just wonder when was the last tie you posted in a 2hu thread and it wasn't a shitpost? Something that would interesting for others to read? No, seriously, kill yourself.

>>14185606
I don't really care what the secondaries on Facebook are doing so long as all the good fans are there, and ZUN continues making new games, as always.

Touhou is not memes, attention from the facebook crowd can do little to ruin it. It's not even based in the West.

>>14188114
>I just wonder when was the last tie you posted in a 2hu thread and it wasn't a shitpost? Something that would interesting for others to read?
Sounds pretty much like all the touhou threads here.

Despite what a lot of people in this thread say, Kancolle and Touhou are pretty damn similar; they're (formerly) small games with cute girls with lots of unique designs that leave a lot of characterization to the fans, and both managed to get massively popular. The only real reason one is more popular than the other is the fact that Kancolle is newer, Who knows, though, maybe the newer Touhous will bring back some fans/attract new fans.

>>14189506

One is a super monopolized franchise that is being milked dry because whomever designed the characters did a really good job while the other is a doujin title in the purest sense and got notoriety because of its quality of music, game design, characters and setting.

If you are going to group together small games with cute girls then you might as well say "over half the Japanese games are pretty damn similar".

>leave a lot of characterization to the fans

Not with an official anime it doesn't.

>>14188114
>he insulted muh holy franchise
fuck off kid lmao

Considering ZUN was hating on KanColle at first, and now is begging for a collaboration, I think the writing is on the wall for Touhou.

>>14189763
>now is begging for a collaboration

Nice source, buddy!

>>14189763
>ZUN was hating on KanColle at first
>and now is begging for a collaboration
I'd ask for a source for both of these bold claims, but both you and I know you're pulling it out of ass.

>>14189689
fuck the official anime

>>14189763
He never said either, all he said was that they go well together.

>>14189689
>game design, characters and setting.
Yeah sure, the only good thing is and was always the music, stop living in denial faggot.

>>14163170
It most certainly did not. The KanColle bubble is beginning to pop, while Touhou has remained popular for over a decade now.

>>14163170

Where is Kancolle 2? It feels like they made one sort of neat game and the franchise subsequently dropped like a stone.

>>14189763
ZUN recently implied that he was happy about Kancolle because the shittier secondaries left the Touhou community at last.

>>14184528
>I've yet to see IM@S get even half the shit that Kancolle does.
The difference is that we don't get assholes comparing Touhou to iM@S every week.

KanColle still haven't overtaken Touhou on the fanbase ratings.
Its done a good job on catching up to them.

Both franchises got great settings. But they are diffrent settings. And diffrent ways of delivering it.

Touhou is a "one game, once in a while" thing. And fans go crazy each time new offical Touhou stuff comes out, adding tons of new fan material over it. Its not going away anytime soon.
While KanColle is more a current event thing. It can go either way(stay for a while or die out in about a year). Its still too early to say if its a fad, or its here to stay.

>>14189506
Literally the only similarity is that they both have a lot of girls. The gameplay (shmup vs card game), setting, demographic, sphere (independent vs commercial), platform, focus (fantasy vs history), and even the nature of the characters (maidens vs sluts) are all different.
The only reason they get compared is because Kancolle has taken over the doujinshi scene, but other than that there's barely any resemblance. DMM has a fuckton of other games similar to Kancolle.

>>14190549
>>14190715
>>14190741
>Kancolle
>small c

>>14190792
KanColle is the official name but I'll never get over the fact that it looks ugly as shit.

>>14190715
That's classic Japanese indirectness, he intended more of a "Haha, shit franchise draws shit people!" ...then he comes around and demands a collab.

>>14190830
His twitter post welcoming a collaboration predates his comment about undesirables at whatever the fuck it was.

>>14163170
Practically killed its doujin scene

>>14172463

This. And ZUN agree.

>>14184154

Comiket isn't even that important for Touhou anymore. The vast majority of porn comes from Touhou exclusive cons.

Kantai retards scream about their 2k circles at Comiket when 4k circles at Reitaisai don't count for some reason.

>>14190830

He never "begged" or "demanded" a collab. Just said he wouldn't mind one.

>>14190974
>Kantai retards scream about their 2k circles at Comiket when 4k circles at Reitaisai don't count for some reason.
If you count Reitaisai (which you should) then you should also be counting the circles at Hourai Gekisen, which is a smaller convention but also occurs more often than Reitaisai.

>>14190715

No he didn't. People keep misquoting a statement that had nothing to do with Kantai Collection.

>>14191099

You should also be counting a ton of smaller touhou conventions.

Why do people still like Touhou? It's as embarrassing as liking Pokemon or World of Warcraft at this point.

>>14191722
Why do people like things in general? Disgusting.

> playing a game made to recruit neets for the jap navy baiting them with shity waifus

>>14191884
This implication gave me a scary stream of thoughts

>>14191959

like >>14180330 says

also Army & Air Force has their own waifus recruit division

>>14192139
Also, GATE was Jsdf propaganda as fuck

>>14191722

It's not embarrassing if you can't find anyone to talk about it outside the internet.

>>14191722
Is it really? Touhou is hard after all.

>>14190741
>maidens
yeah sure, not even sure would believe that

>>14191631
I know there are a shitton of little independent regional conventions for Touhou, but is there anything sizable missing besides Kouroumu?

(Kancolle seems to group most things under the Hourai Gekisen banner, which covers both the ~1000 circle large regular events and some shitty little ones.)

2huniggers: post scores
boatfuckers: post ranks
or fuck off

>>14193314
>Kancolle
>small c

>>14193843
>post ranks
Many people here are too lazy or busy to rank. It's "post e-peen medals" here.

>>14173802
The ships in KanColle steam you walnut

>>14163170
Ships > underage shrine maidens

>>14193843

>post ranks

That would imply the boatfuckers actual play that abomination of a game.

>>14193973
A lot more likely than any of these defensive 2shitters playing their abominations

I love these threads.

>>14190741
>>gameplay
You think that shit matters when it comes to a fanbase? Besides, touhoufags and kancollefags are mostly secondaries anyway.
>>setting
Again, talking about their appeal to their fanbases, not games themselves

>>demographic
Oh, please. They're both loved by otaku, the fact that you see the people who used to make stuff for Touhou now making stuff for Kancolle proves that other than the hardcore players they're popular with the same kind of people.

>>sphere
Their creators may be different kinds, but a bigger company doing it for free and a (now very popular) independent creator selling it are close to the same level on the sliding scale of shitty gamemaker game to high-profile AAA.
>>platform
What the hell are you talking about? They're both PC games, the fact that you play one in a browser makes little difference.
>>focus
Kancolle has fairies and magic planes and Touhou takes place in a chunk of medieval Japan and makes tons of references to Japanese myths and history. The only difference is that Touhou puts a little more emphasis on the fantasy side and Kancolle puts a little more on the history
>>maidens vs. sluts
Face it, anon. Your waifu is a slut. My waifu is a slut. All animes are sluts.

I just don't really care for Kantai Collection.

There, I even spelled it like no one else does.

So I was wondering, are shitcolle fans too scared to leave their containment thread? Ialmost never see other threads about it or people defending it like we 2hu fans do. Not that's it's a bad thing.

>>14193314
I've seen events with suspiciously high spaces count. To not look far, Daikyuushu Touhousai 14 will have 800.

And if you want to sum up everything, let's not forget there are other all-genre events besides Comiket.

>>14194581
>shitcolle
That's rude. Remember, the C is capitalized.

>we 2hu fans
Please don't associate yourself with us, thank you.

But to answer your question, nobody ever leaves their containment threads anymore. /jp/ - Japan/Generals.

>>14194457
>Kancolle

>small c

>>14194457
>Kancolle puts a little more on the history
Where they claim they won Midway and ignore the fact that Hacchan is a war criminal scum.

>>14194581
They never bother to leave their thread because deep down they know they're completely different from what the rest of /jp/ is and they know how much of a shithole they're in but they don't want to accept it and so they don't want to go to other threads since they don't want to be reminded of how wrong they are.

>>14194834
>Where they claim they won Midway
>anime
>canon

>and ignore the fact that Hacchan is a war criminal scum
In-game Hacchan was based on the crew that travelled to Germany and back. The crew committing all those war crimes was a different crew.

I-8 Kai 2 when.

>>14184960
I, for one, am glad that memesters secondaries left.

>>14194983
>The crew committing all those war crimes was a different crew.

Yet some of the lines depicted her act of resurfacing and use machine guns to attack. Those are from the 2nd crew.

I loved Kancolle when it first came out. There was so much potential. And actual competition to Touhou is a good thing.

The problem is Kadokawa ruined it. Marriage system was the start. Today Kancolle is a piece of crap waifu pandering and nothing more.

>>14195249
I have basically the same thoughts. Though at the time, when I was complaining, I felt overwhelming drowned out.

>>14195177
>resurfacing and use machine guns to attack
The only line that fits the description is:
>浮上しても抵抗するよ……！持ち帰った20mm連装機銃が火を噴くわ……！
>I'll keep resisting even if I surface! I'll shower you with these 20mm machine guns I brought back!
That was for when she sank while engaging two destroyers. The game treats their sinking to be pretty much the same regardless of which part of their lives they're depicted in.

>>14195249
>>14196520
No, the anime was what ruined it.

>>14197983
>No, the anime was what ruined it.

This is exactly why ZUN refuses to have an official touhou anime made.

>>14195249
I recall seeing a couple of threads popping up here in late 2013, if I remember correctly. Now it's just a cancerous general - which doesn't have a place here - but which also seems to spawn at least 2 new threads each time an old one dies. I often see 4 results for 'kancolle' in the catalog around this time.

>>14198526
It's not having an anime that was the problem; it was just how bad the anime was. I, with no experience, can just do a solo project and still churn out something better than what the anime gave us. It's that bad.

>>14198539
One of the threads is posted in exclusively by a single retard who bumps it once an hour.

>>14197983
>No, the anime was what ruined it.
How so? Regardless of how bad the anime experts claimed it to be, It didn't stop people from playing the game.

>>14175939
No.

>>14198539
>cancerous general
>doesn't have a place here
oh boy have I got some news for you my newfriend

>>14194581
We don't leave our threads because we discuss the game and everything about it in the one thread. We don't need to make shitpost threads like "I want Sakuya Onee-chan to step on me!" or "How do I get Marisa to notice me?". Or god forbid "Smoking cones with Sachiko!". Those shitposters post in the /a/ thread.

And you should be damn grateful that this is how it worked out.

>>14202874
>We don't leave our threads
If you say so.

You no taste troglodyte diminutive sack of convulsing baby seals, Kancolle or as I like to say, Fetish collection is a group of indistinguishable SLUTS that are only good for maintaining your man tower a few times, it looks like some kind of shit turn based micro transaction riddled NIGHTMARE of a browser game, with pandering that can only be out done by Hyper Dimension Neptunia.
Touhou however is a refined thinking mans game, requiring skill and consistency that allow for pure talent or hard work to show through immersive and heart pumping gameplay, and a world to back it up.
Fan works don't matter when Fetish Collection is a shallow leech trying to suck any of the quality out of touhou artist by brainwashing. Touhou is a proud lion that people can feel good in playing and winning, only the truely blind would never see such a truth!

>>14202874
This board was literally created because of Touhou as the main reason, don't come here talking like we should be thanking you. You should be the thankful one, since judging by the obvious latent dislike of Kancolle around here I'm pretty sure your thread would get shitposted out of existence if you started stepping out of it regularly.

>>14202874

You did NOT just talk shit about sachiko.

>>14202874
>And you should be damn grateful that this is how it worked out.
I would strongly prefer it if the /jp/ thread were kicked into /vg/ (given that it's literally a video game general thread) and the /a/ thread were invited into /jp/ wholesale, and released from its confining shackles, as 4/5ths of what's good about Kancolle comes from secondary work.

>>14203020
>>14203037
>>14203064
>Kancolle
>small c

Only thing Touhou had to do is weather the storm, which has already peaked. Kancolle has already started to decline some in popularity. The game as it is just does not have any long term staying power, which is its fatal flaw. I used to really like the game but after getting all the equipment and ships I wanted, the game started to quickly become boring. I only log in for events now, and will soon stop doing even that. With the game ban talented doujin game makers can't even make fun alternatives to the browser game. Kadokawa has done jack shit when comes to actually releasing Kancolle games. So far a half-assed Vita port of the browser game that has been delayed numerous times, and A Sega arcade game....Just absolutely letting a property rot that should be printing money out of the ass.

>>14203117
Time for a new filter.

>>14203370
Just some force meme from /a/fag

>>14203369
>Kancolle
>small c

>>14203369
>the game ban talented doujin game makers can't even make fun alternatives to the browser game
There goes any chance for Kancolle fangame.

>>14203495
>Kancolle
>small c

>>14193911
>>14190729
>>14189763
>KanColle
>big c

>>14203370
>autism
This board is full of autism.

>>14204542
Yeah, especially with kancolle retards around now.

>>14204545
>retards
>small a

>>14204545
>kancolle
>small k
>small c