/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Is this the STG thread? Can we post scores and cry about being shit again? I miss those days.

>>14145233
Have you played Ketsui yet?

>>14145233
STG is dead right now. I'm looking forward to december when cave comes to steam. Maybe it will revive STG.

Wish I could go to HEY arcade again to bring shame to my family.

The shot types in TH11 are really weird.
Today I tried to 1cc normal with aya and patchouli but it was hard as fuck.

Just use Reimu A, it's best best shottype in the game.

>>14145191
That's clearly not 11 anon.
Also, wide shottypes are always weak.

>>14146198
Reimu C makes you shift more, while Marisa B allows you to refocus the direction of your shot. Both I find to be versatile, but tough to master.

It's been 8 years and I still haven't 1cc'd TH06

>>14146949
>>14146198
if you're just trying to 1cc, you can bomb everything with aya

>>14145520
Yeah, can't wait to discuss a game with the Steam userbase...

Aya is pretty high power and gets anywhere you need. She can kill incoming waves if you lay her horizontally on the top of the screen as well, though it doesn't work everywhere.

Patchouli is probably a better bet.

Both require you to figure out their ideal take on every part of every stage though.

>>14147958
Just put your mind to it. You can bomb three times per each life. This is something many overlook until they're on their last breath.

I decided to play through the entire Touhou canon, only to find out that it includes the fucking fighting games. I suffer.

>>14145191
>I'm having trouble with TH11
We all did. Just use Yukari Reimu and hope for the best. Sometimes the teleportation comes useful, but not often.

If you haven't gotten to Orin, then you don't know the meaning of trouble, yet.

>>14154630
Can't be worse than the usual STG userbase.

ReimuC has by far the easiest SA 1cc. Very strong and spammable bombs, a shot type that annihilates most of the stages and the easiest stage 4 fight. Sure, ReimuA is strong, but have fun with dat Yukari fight.

What's the easiest Touhou? I want to 1CC them all on normal (yes, casual newfag) and only beat TH10 so far because I started with it and played it a lot. And aside from Touhou, what are good bullet hells to start with? I've been playing Crimzon Clover recently, it's great but quite hard, I'll never beat the original arcade mode

>>14156224
>What's the easiest Touhou?
PCB or IN.

>>14156224
I practised with Perfect Cherry Blossom.
1cc it on normal, then play the extra stage, then play the phantasm stage. It's a quite good difficulty curve, and finally beating the phantasm stage at the end feels really good.

All other touhou games should be rather easy to 1cc on normal after that.

>>14156224
IN without hesitation. Gives a lot of lives and huge death bomb time frame.

>>14156832
Feels really cheap though. What I found funny about IN is that if you try to bomb as little as you can and unlock the last spells the game becomes one of the hardest to satisfyingly clear. The swing in difficulty is unexpected compared to most other games.

>>14156912
With that said, I went and succeeded for the first time at 1cc'ing IN. Stages 1-5 went well, but... Kaguya can suffer all eternity for her Last Words as long as I care. It's like, you're supposed to feel like you have completed the game, but the feeling is nullified. Even if you don't die a single time to either Marisa or Reisen.

>>14156231
>>14156255
I gave PCB another try, played with Marisa because I got used to fast movement in Crimzon Clover. There's a gimmick I don't understand though, sometimes I would take a bullet but Marisa flashes and survives the attack while making some kind of counter? How does that work?

>>14157163
In PCB, you can take a bullet for the duration of a "Supernatural Border" and that'll also clear a portion of the screen. You have little control over it, however.

>>14157189

You actually have alot of control over your supernatural borders though.

Shooting unfocused builds up your cherry meter faster, cherry blocks will build it faster, grazing will build it faster ect.

Its not hit a button easy like in TD but I have no problem positioning my supernatural borders for the moments where you actually need it like stage 6.

>>14157216
I decided not to overwhelm him seeing as he's still running into bullets and doesn't intend to go beyond normal.

>>14157250

I like to believe that he is a savant about to emerge.

Just you wait, by the end of the week he'll be playing on lunatic and making dank ass supergrazes unconciously.

>>14145520
>when cave comes to steam.
WHAT

FEVAH GOT MAH SOUL

>>14155574
Isn't Marisa + Nitori the best for bad players?
I can't remember but I think Marisa has a shield bomb when pairing with Nitori.

>>14157266
We can hope~

>>14157250
>>14157266
I actually beat TH10 1CC about 6months ago, when I started playing and played so much I learned it by heart. Then I pretty much stopped playing bullet hells until I played in arcades when I visited Japan last month, and when I got back I bought an arcade stick and am now trying to slowly get back in them. I don't have that much time and patience so I won't be playing lunatic in a week, sorry

Junko is brutalizing my ass on lunatic. Over fifty attempts on her first none spell alone.

>>14155180

i tried the fighting games and they look alright but i get the feeling i'm supposed to have a controller for them. It's awkward and feels like murder on my wrists and fingers with keyboard.

>>14158462
I never played IaMP but Soku inputs at least seem pretty forgiving compared to most fighting games.

>>14158462
Same, I spend most of my time trying to do combos while playing with my shitty membrane keyboard. I have an XBOne controller somewhere, will it be good for fighting games? Is it better than keyboard for shmups?

>>14158462
>>14158492
why are you playing action games of any kind using a keyboard? do you use an arcade stick to write word documents?

>>14155180
I don't consider "non-ZUN"-games as canon. They're a complete different genre, it makes no sense to play them as a person who likes the touhou STGs.

>>14156832
actually it gives you very few lifes
inb4 "but you can start with 7 xD"

>>14158574
Fuck your shit, buddy. A keyboard is perfectly capable of playing any kind of game you could possibly want. Blame the casual (like them, or you), not the tool.

>>14159496
>fighting games are not canon
Great, the retards are here.

>>14159591
Take your Sumireko and japanese goblin and get the HELL back to /v/.

>>14157738
I wish I could reach her on Lunatic. My Pointdevice is sitting at Clownpiece on hard, and I decided to not cheese Legacy.

>>14159606
Make me, casual who plays with a fucking joystick.

>>14159606
I don't think even /v/ would be retarded enough to advocate playing fighting games with a keyboard

>>14159815
>gimps self by playing with feces instead of a keyboard
>implies other people are retarded
The only kinds of games that benefit from using a kind of input that's not the keyboard (and/or the mouse) are racing games and flight sims. That's it.

Still trying to 1CC UFO, got to Byakurens last card with 2 lives and fucked it up
Fuck boddhists and their curved lasers

>>14159591
Could be their keyboards are bad.

For example my keyboard is shit, to be honest. It's a wonder I'm accomplishing anything at all with it when I can't even micro-dodge reliably, and it has, like, a built-in input delay. I hope to buy a mechanical one soon. Never needed one before I started playing Touhou.

>>14162099
honestly never thought about shortening the input delay with playing. good advice anon.

>>14162099
>Never needed one before
You just think that because you don't have a mech keyboard. Once you do you will wonder how you ever got by without one.

>>14159496
>a person who likes the touhou STGs.

Figured this is as good a thread to post this as any. But a review I wrote for TH15 was published earlier today and I wanted to share with you guys and ask for your opinion:

http://www.sumthing.com/blog/the-moon-as-seen-through-lunatic-eyes-legacy-of-lunatic-kingdom/

I know I made a couple factual errors, such as saying that Reisen wasn't playable in a mainline game until LoLK (I completely forgot she was in PoFV) and using the literal translation for stage 1's song, as opposed to the official one. But everything else should be more or less correct. I'd appreciate some feedback.

>>14162378
not reading that. blogging about otaku culture is p pathetic mate

>>14162378
The style is enjoyable, but you went on to describe the entire playthrough in detail, while actually leaving out the Extra stage. The description was a little bit too elaborate for me; I was hoping the article would contain only the highlights of the gameplay and would have more "side info" and impressions, so as to be interesting to someone who has already played the game. Still, a solid and passionate article.

>>14157738
Did you choose Sanae? It's the worst choice for Junko. Had 300 retries until I reached Clownpiece, then Junko and ended the game with almost 1000 retries.

Which games have you 1CC'd /jp/? Of course exclude easymodo

>>14163370
ur mum
o wait u said no ezmodo xD

>>14163370
>>14163572
#shrekt

>>14163572
LOL

>>14163370
EoSD normal, PCB normal, IN hard, skipping POFV, abandoned StB at stage 9, almost 1CC'd MOF hard today. Next will be SA lunatic. I've been playing seriously since march.

>>14162378
ahahaha your name is BERNARD
fucking loser

>>14163370

>>14164030
My grandfather's name is Bernard.
He fought in World War 2, nigger. He's manlier than you'll ever be.

>>14163572

>>14163276
Yeah I went with Sanae as I had done the other three girls on hard. I ended up with just over seven hundred retries and I'd wager three to four hundred of those were on Junko. Those nonspells were brutal.

>>14163572

>>14163370
Decided to write a long reply, but this long reply is stupidly long. At this length, this is basically more of a diary entry for myself, but... might as well post it here, since that's why I began writing this. If anyone cares, enjoy the read.

I've long been aware of Touhou, but only started playing this August. I have been clearing the games in their chronological order in order to appreciate the story in full (such as there is to tell). My experiences are as follows:

1. Embodiment of Scarlet Devil - my first game, so I couldn't compare it with any previous experiences, and took everything for granted. It took me two weeks of everyday practice to do my first 1cc: first I became familiar with the gameplay to the point that I could comfortably dodge all of Meiling's danmaku on Normal (week one), and the rest was, to be honest, mostly a matter of becoming used to Sakuya's knives and time stop mechanic that was breaking my flow; but I also had to practise surviving Remilia's gimmicky spell cards for some time. At that point I felt like I had abused the practice mode long enough; and so I proceeded to run through the entire game more or less comfortably with the standard amount of starting lives, never bombing before Remilia because relatively purist as I am, I was taking no chances with so few lives remaining and because I was increasingly having the feeling that it was well past time I was done with this damned game and the Scarlet Mansion, and wanted badly to move on and see the rest of Touhou.

(cont.)

>>14164932
(continued from above)

Seeing (as well as getting to) the ending (as ReimuA) was more satisfying than possibly anything I had gotten from a game before and gave me full closure, as light-hearted and stupidly cute as the ending was. In the end, I had developed a sense of intimate familiarty with the cast of EoSD, and a yet more special connection with Reimu as my "avatar" with which to traverse and feel the world of Gensokyo. I decided not to bother with the newly unlocked extra stage however, because I really couldn't wait to move on. I watched a replay of the extra stage being cleared by a Marisa player to compensate.

2. Perfect Cherry Blossom - my second game, which I finished in two weeks, but completely. Among the first impressions, I was amazed with how smooth and polished the game felt after EoSD. The controls felt especially responsive and pleasant, and the dot finally made me confident about my micro-dodging (that is, until Youmu's entrance...). The strongly Japanese theme as opposed to EoSD's faux Western motif served to, suddenly, really make the name "The East" (Touhou) strike home like you had never expected it before. I was also pleased to see Sakuya playable, although I, of course, chose Reimu. Overall, this installment of the series just instantly clicked with me. Despite the improved controls however, Youmu gave me grievance with her slo-mo spell cards, to which, combined with my initial attempts to beat the game on Hard before I decided I wasn't quite ready for that, I spent the better part of the first week shamefully dying before I suddenly (as always) really did grasp how it was done. Getting past Youmu was worth it, as I got to meet Yuyuko. Somehow, ZUN managed perfectly to make her danmaku as sweet and carefree as Lady Yuyuko herself, while not being particularly easy. It was a true enjoyment. ...well, this write-up is getting unnecessarily long.

(cont.)

>>14164941
(continued from above)

I loved all the characters really, each in their own way. I saw that the next game, Imperishable Night, had Reimu paired with Yukari, so I resolved to beat the Extra and Phantasm stages of PCB before starting IN. The stages were challenging yet wonderful, and I developed a special attachment to Yukari from there on. I finally felt qualified to start Imperishable Night with two of my very favourite touhous.

3. Imperishable Night - my third game. I was happy to see Yukari on my screen, though I at first found it somewhat difficult to dodge with her. The game is actually stupidly easy to clear with bombs, but with the way I went about 1cc'ing it, I had to abandon playing on Hard for the second time because playing it perfectly on Normal was enough trouble for me. Even so, after a week, I made both successful clears of Finals A and B, which were almost perfect but I failed both Hourai Elixir and Kaguya's last words. I think it was good enough for the moment, as I later captured them individually in spell practice. I'll return to this game someday and really do a flawless 1cc, and hopefully finally not on Normal, although to be honest I do not feel strongly about ramping up the difficulty for its own sake. Most importantly, pic related represents my overall feelings after beating IN.


4. Phantasmagoria of Flower View - I did not really expect the game to look like that. Well, I just, kinda, started it on Normal just to see, and ended up making it up to Eiki Shiki and beating her as well. I think this game has merit, and it would be interesting to explore later all the characters' story lines. I also met Aya for the first time there. However, I decided to move on to MoF and save PoFV for later.

(cont.)

>>14164948
(continued from above)

5. Mountain of Faith - started yesterday, so no 1cc yet. Seeing the new engine is exciting, and the story looks particularly solid and interesting to me. I was excited to meet Sanae for the first time. I hope to beat Kanako soon, but I have not as much time for touhou as I would like now. I also miss Yukari in the character selection screen somewhat, even though she isn't really needed... Overall, fresh and exciting! I love it.

Side mentions:

Immaterial and Missing Power - I tried, because it's in the chronology, partially for Suika the Japanese goblin, and because I actually liked the game after I tried it, even if I turned out to be so bad at fighting games I decided to watch a playthrough on youtube instead, after I died to Youmu. Someday, when I'm done with the danmaku games, I'll return to IaMP and do it myself.

Fairy Wars - somewhere when I was taking a break between Ran and Yukari in PCB. The game turned out to be much harder than I expected, but then I didn't even try to start it on Normal and went for Hard, in accordance with Cirno's personality. I would have sat down and cleared it on another day, but the game was proving to be rather gimmicky, and I couldn't really wait to start PCB's Phantasm anymore and meet the enigmatic Yukari, so I left my progress in Fairy Wars frozen for the time being.

Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom - finished Normal on pointdevice mode in one day between PCB's 1cc and first extra, as Reimu, so as not to be out of touch with the latest hot topic, and because it's such a great game, to be honest. Amazing soundtrack, amazingly delivered personalities, most sophisticated engine, etc. I've got all sorts of praise. I have a soft spot for Junko now, and I actually like Clownpiece. I am not sure how to feel about pointdevice on Normal, though... I'll try Lunatic eventually, I hope. Once again, the game is simply beautiful.

The future holds the rest.

inb4 nothing but shitposting

>>14163572
oh dang

>>14164932
>only started in August
Please tell me that's a joke

>>14164965
I'm sorry for being new anon. If it warms your heart, I was never really a secondary fan either because I didn't think it made sense to be a fan of something without having seen the real thing.

If it's not that... well... I was actually afraid of arcade type games for the longest time, but my love of the outward expressions won me over, so I headed straight into action as soon as I realised that I needed to know more. I still haven't managed a single 1cc on Hard, so I possess more determination than skill, and lots of free time until very recently. I am honoured to be considered skilled, though...

>>14163370
EoSD Normal
PCB Normal
IaMP Normal/Lunatic
IN Normal
PoFV Normal
MoF Normal
UFO Normal
TD Normal
DDC Normal
HM Normal
LoLK Pointdevice: Normal/Hard

>>14165133
>counting the fighting games

>>14165141
IaMP is (I believe) the only one of the fighting games that requires you to 1CC to be able to fight the last boss (i.e. Suika).

So yeah, I'll include it.

>>14165154
I was referring to HM.

I somehow didn't notice that IaMP was on that list until after I made the post.

>ctrl f
>score
>1 result
/jp/

If you're trying to 1cc all the modern Touhou games would you personally go for the fighting games if you didn't like the genre ? I can't decide if I care enough to play

>>14162664
I left out the extra stage because I haven't actually beaten the extra stage. Honestly, I'm not that good of a Touhou player, I struggled a lot to beat Legacy/Lunatic for TH15, and I have yet to be able to beat Legacy/Extra.

I'm sorry, maybe I'll write another article soon about the Extra stage.

>>14165579

>>14165823

>>14165787
If you don't like it you don't need to force yourself to play it.

>>14165844
That's a very beta attitude

>>14165933
What, would you rather I sit and go "grr this game is boring but I'm going to play it anyways" ?

>>14165978
I'm not OP

>>14159496
>I don't consider "non-ZUN"-games as canon.
So Suika suddenly appeared in StB for no reason, and was buddy buddy with Reimu for no reason during SA?
And where does that leave the manga? Or the Rinnosuke stories? Or the fanbooks such as PMiSS and BRiJR?

>>14163370
SoEW Hard
PoDD Normal
LLS Hard
MS Hard
EoSD Lunatic + Extra
PCB Lunatic + Extra/Phantasm
IN Lunatic + Extra
PoFV Lunatic + a few Extras
StB all scenes cleared
MoF Hard + Extra
UFO Normal + Extra
DS all scenes cleared with both girls
GFW all routes Normal + Extra
TD Hard + Extra
DDC Hard + Extra
ISC all scenes cleared via cheating
LoLK Normal + Extra

>>14165579
lol who are you quoting xD

How am I supposed to play well at shmups will still being ready to bomb in case I make a mistake? Since I started playing I got really better but I still can't clear Touhous because I think I'm good enough for everything, but then I make mistakes and am too focused to use a bomb. When I have one life left I become aware that I have to bomb, but then I'm too focused on being ready to bomb and don't do shit because I can't focus on playing skillfully

>>14168189
Understand and admit there are card you have a lot of trouble with and plan to drop a bomb whenever they get into the difficult segments.

pic related fuck you undead bitch

>>14163370
EoSD - Lunatic
PCB - Lunatic
IN - Hard
PoFV - Normal
MoF - Hard
SA - Normal
UFO - Normal
TD - Hard
DDC - Normal
LoLK - Normal

I haven't been very motivated to play the newer games (post SA), although I'm not sure if it's the newer games being more difficult or the fact that I just have no motivation to practice them. As for SA, Orin is just impossible for me. I once reached her with 7 or 8 lives and started stage 6 with 1.

That fucking cat, one more time etc.

>>14168423
7 lives is like 15 bombs, what a fuck man

>>14168277
>Hirokawa
Go to left, stream, go to right, stream. That's a giveaway card.

That fucking knife noncard on the other hand is worse than Merlin's opener.

>>14164062
You didn't play the older games ? They are pretty fun too !

>>14163370
6-11 on hard and their extras, 12 on normal. Currently doing 13 on hard and 6 on lunatic but I haven't touched either in weeks.

>>14168459
I don't think anything in PCB is worse than Merlin's opener.

>>14168459
Dude the knives are a complete chill card. All nonspell cards besides her opening are extremely easy.

>>14168689
I've played LLS and MS. Didn't like MS that much.

>>14168423
I've always thought that MoF and beyond Hards are tougher than EoSD-IN Hards.

>>14169082
I'd agree with that.

Is Kanako really supposed to be that difficult on Normal? It's been hours and I still haven't figured out how to dodge her knives reliably without bombing the whole spell card. I mean, this is coming from the same man who had no problem with EoSD's Sakuya.

>>14169518
>this is coming from the same man who had no problem with EoSD's Sakuya.
Sakuya is easy though.

>>14165020
You're not skilled (yet) so don't feel honored.

>>14169876
She has a very similar attack amongst her spell cards, or does she? Anyway, I don't find Kanako very difficult anymore...

>>14170306
>(yet)
I appreciate the encouragement, but dear anon, you're too kind. I know enough to recognise that you need to be born with it. If I wasn't so entranced with the world of Gensokyo, I would have long quit.

>>14169518
Rice porridge either has fucked up hitboxes or I'm bad
VoWG is the most fun spellcard in the series

>>14169518
You have to start from one corner, then move your way to another corner as the knives are flying at you. You have to do it quickly though or you'll get trapped by the storm of knives. This has always worked for me.

>>14170650
>fun
you're doing VoWG wrong

>>14170650
VoWG made me want to smash my keyboard.

Why can't I become consistantly good? I've played touhou for over 100hours total, specifically TH06 only about 15hours this week and I still can't 1CC anything at normal. Yesterday I almost had it(had 3lives for the final boss but fucked up because of stress), but I somehow still lose 1-2 lives against Cirno today. Everything on normal seems easy but I still fuck up and run into bullets.Fuck these games

>>14172914
>fucked up because of stress
I'd wager that's your problem anon. You've got to take it easy.

>>14172914
>fucked up because of stress
I'll agree with that other anon, this is definitely your problem. Try to take a little rest until you fully cool down and then come back. Making yourself get worked up is just going to make you a worse player.

>>14173049
>>14173079
I hate myself for being unable to concentrate in the critical moments. It it's going too easily I stop focusing and die stupidly, if I die stupidly I can't focus anymore because I'm too pissed, and in the end end I can't concentrate when I need to because of pressure. My psychology really is fucking me up.

On another note, how do I deal with that spellcard and kill her fast with Reimu B? This is stupid, I have no trouble surviving it anymore but sometimes for some reason I can't even kill her in time and don't get the extra life. I just lost 2 lives because I rushed dangerously at the end to kill her, but I still failed and got no bonus, fucked up my entire run

>>14173181
It's ok anon. I was like you once. I remember back when I was first trying to 1CC SA I would get so nervous during Satori's Border of Wave and Particle that I would be physically shaking. Just persevere and it should eventually go away.

As for that spellcard it's simple streaming, but I don't think there is a way to do it quickly as Reimu B. Sakuya only has the one set of movements that she repeats so you just have to anticipate them. Forgive the terrible quality, I'm not very good at makgin webms.

>>14173049
do you score?
no you don't

>>14170650
VoWG is funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLMwivSRLQw