/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>14121027
Ranking rewards for August will be released tomorrow.

>nyashii.jpg

Do we know whether Shoukaku kai ni will require a blueprint in addition to the catapult or not?

>>14121698
No.

>>14121698
There's zero information on that. You can keep a blueprint just in case it requires one, if you don't have one it's only a week after the maintenance before the monthlies are reset.

>>14121702
>>14121707
I wonder if the devs will say anything. I guess I'll do 5-5 so I can have one ready just in case.

>>14121710
Probably not before the update hits. They usually do these kind of announcements in patch notes.

>>14121710
Of course they're not going to say anything. It's more exciting to make everyone stress out over it the whole time. We can even have hoaxes when maintenance is about to end if they keep it secret.

I need Maya to carry night equipment for 4-5.

I can only give her 2 of the following AACI items;
>12.7 + AAFD
>25mm concentrated
>FuMO

Any 2 of them will trigger a cutin, but which is strongest?

>>14122781
25mm and the FuMO,

I wouldn't bring yasen equips for 4-5, though. If you are going through the middle, take 2BB 3CA 1CV, If you are going south, take 4BB 2CV or 5BB1CV, and the same if you're going middle then south. I've found the most successful composition to be 2BB 3CA 1CV, specially relative to cost. 4BB 2CV though the middle also works pretty well. Fuck NB nodes.

>>14122781
http://en.kancollewiki.net/wiki/Combat/Aerial_Combat

>>14122781
You don't need night equipment for 4-5, even for the south route

im a total noob on this game and i have seen that ppl on youtube has 110 shipgirls cap and i have 100. is there a quest or something to raise the cap?

>>14126067
>YouTube
Also, you have to pay for more slots.

>>14126067

Pay2waifu

>>14126090
YouTube is superior for everything other than livestreams and the community.

>>14126090
>>14126093
how much? and its possible without knowing moonrunes?

>>14126102
Completely impossible, better give up and cry

>>14126102
http://www.himeuta.net/forumdisplay.php?f=6

If you have any other questions, I suggest you register an account and ask there.

>>14126102
It's pretty simple, unless DMM doesn't take your credit/debit card, you are going to have to jump through hoops with WebMoney, but it's still simple inputs.

>>14126102

Pretty sure you can use the English part of the site to input your CC/debit

Getting an odd problem where I get catbombed all the time after the initial load and click on the green button. At first I thought it was timezone or cache issue but it was not. Each time I renew an api code (vpn or cookie method), the catbomb will happen after restarting my computer. Anyone know whats up?

>>14127773
Have you tried syncing your time before renewing?

>>14129242
My timezone is only 1 hour different from JST. If it was timezone problem, it will have immediately catbombed and I will not be allowed to play at all.

Currently, I can play for a bit and it will catbomb after a while on api.

On a side note, I am using the cookie method and I noticed that the api code changes by itself overtime with that method .

About to do 4-5 for the first time, what kind of rsc consumption am I looking at? I only have 5k ammo at the moment.

>>14130702
Kind of. Only level her if you're bored.

>>14130753
10-20k for me. If you take lighter comp you can get trolled by Ta, if you take heavy comp kills before final are guaranteed but expensive. Final form makes boss fight taiha party so you lose a lot there.

>>14130781
Fuck. Might just train my fleet or LSC instead. Doesn't seem worth it.

Is it alright for me to scrap a bulk of unused type 94 depth charges?

>>14130753

Lost a load of steel, but it was worth sending out my girls for once since the event.

Swap the fuel and ammo for steel in image.

>>14130781
You used that much? 1BB 1CA 2CAV 2CV never fail to score S rank at boss Node and it should be around 5k

>>14130872
Because everyone gets perfect 5/5 runs without a single taiha or retreat every time, right?

>>14130872

>2CV

>>14130888
Yes, 2CV anon. 2CV is the master race.

>>14130843
Only if you have enough of the good ones.

>>14130917
Enough type 3s to do 1-5 with.

Wow Shoukaku's remodel looks great.

>>14130872
>BB
For what purpose? 3CA 3CV are enough. Only last kill need heavy fleet and it didn't take much tries.

>>14130949
gonna rock your world here but last kill is wham most people tend to have trouble with

>>14130932
7.5/10, I kek'd a bit.

>>14130932

Not gonna lie I like it.

>>14130932
the only interesting detail it's plane wings as the arrow feathering

her boots look silly btw

>>14130932
Potato rule the world

>>14130932
>not dual bows

>>14131029
How would you fire dual bows?

>>14131029
I'd be cool if she did the Hatsushimo strategy.

>>14131040
Pull the bowstring with her teeth?

>>14131040
You use one bow to fire the other bow.

>>14131040
The prototype catapult system pulls the strings for you

>>14131040
fairy magic

>>14131040
You ask the fairies for help.

Are you ready ?:^)

>>14131114
I hope not, I want to use the blueprint on Chikuma.

So you made sure to marry both of them, right?

>>14131143
>married walking tits with no personality
>ever
No. I have some standard of taste

>>14131155
>walking tits with no personality
This is perfect. You can still educate them.

>>14131155
post your superior taste fagget

>>14131143
There's a fucking face on Hamakaze's hair where her other eye is.

>>14131169
No, you fuck cumdumpsters until they mindbreak. Educate is for better girls with personality

>>14131189
like who?

>>14131169
>>14131172
>>14131192

>unironically responding to /kcg/fag

oh shit nigger what the fuck are you doing

>>14131197
/kcg/fag is still sleeping. Should be waking up soon though.

>>14131197
>who don't like girls I like is /kcg/fag?
nice meme, wikia-kun. you're already fit in

>>14131172
My bitch. To bad, she isn't tame at night

>>14131232
Great taste then but
>17luck
Do you even yasen, faggot?

>>14131241
The only yasen battle she deserve is in my bed

>>14131255
>low luck
explains why she's in your bed

>>14131260
Post your wife's luck then.

>>14131265
No thanks. She isn't on display like yours is.

>>14131272
too ashamed to show your shit taste? i'm not bully you, i promise.

>>14131288
It's ok. Go have fun with you're waifu.

>>14131208
And your grammar makes you stick out like a sore thumb.

>k2 cranes aren't armored

what is this bullshit

>>14131306
Nigga you don't even know that.

>>14131300
*gramma*, not grammar, wikia-kun

What's with this outdated thread?
Why nobody bothered to make a proper one?

>>14131311
Oh hey, good morning.

>>14131309

Does this look like a crossbow to you?

>>14131313
Retard.
I just came home from work and I don't want to deal with your usual shitposting.

>>14131319
Didn't you get fired? Or are you just a memeNEET all along?

>>14131324
Fuck off.

>>14131318
It's probably her bow reinforced with whatever the fairies do, just like how Unryuu is still a CV even though she uses CVL magic.

>>14131319
This is the proper thread created yesterday, but people decided to post on the shitposting thread, but now it's dead and can now post here.

>>14131311
>>14131313
>>14131319
Make me chuckle. lol

>>14131326
It's nice talking to you m8. Looking forward to seeing your threads getting deleted again :^)

Proper thread with updated news.

>>14131339
>>14131339
>>14131339

Shitposters and memeposters keep out.

>>14131329
>>14131334
>m8
>:^)
Opinion ignored.

>>14131356
There is no opinion in both of the posts that you quoted.

Also,
>spending 40 minutes trying to promote your thread when the servers are fucked
You're pretty dedicated.

test

>>14131356
One small step for /kcg/fag.

One giant leap back for boats.

Will I have time to clear 5-5 for the first time if I do 1-2 runs a day?

>>14131562
Depends on your setup.

>>14131567
I''m not sure, I've heard 3CV/3FBB is good.

>>14131568
Both 2BB4CV or 3BB3CV is fine, only thing standing between you and boss is preboss torp.

I'm struggling to figure out how my Hayasui can clinch MVP...

>>14131574
Alrighty then, I'll give it a try.

>>14131581
Go with either 420 or 520 AS. Only difference is you only get AS instead of AS+ in 1/2 comp at D with 420 AS.

>>14131598
Thanks!

So is Shoukaku K2 going to have Reppuu Kai?

>>14131762
Squadron Reppuu at best.

Resource almost capped, try LSC for Musashi got dupe Yamato, fffffuuuu

>>14131762
>inb4 Shinden Kai

>>14131831
Now you can be an asshole and leave the 2nd Yamato as level 1 in your fleet.

>>14131831
Want to trade?

>>14131847
>they'll never add trading between players

>>14131847
yesh plsh

I have 100k more steel than my other resources, what am I doing wrong? I'm only running ammo/fuel expediitons.

>>14132000
You're not doing minimum LSCs. Go craft some Maruyus now

>>14132000
Stop running TE and craft/develop more.

>>14131847
2 Maruyus

>>14132012
But 38 is the best fuel expedition by hourly rate.

>>14132022
And?
Resources you always need are fuel and ammo. Ex38 doesn't give any ammo. It's better for both fuel and ammo to run 5/21 instead of 37/38.
If you have too much of one resource, you're doing something wrong.

>>14132082
But you have 3 expeditions to run. Or do you mean the third always does 2 for buckets and you never sleep?

>>14131831
Funniest thing, my LSC got me a dupe Musashi

>>14132099
Yes, one fleet should be dedicated to ex2. TE is fine for overnight expedition but you shouldn't be able to get 100k steel just from that unless you really spend your life in 3-2-A and never repair ships bigger than subs. Personally I like 35 the most for biggest bauxite gain. 40, 24 or 13 are also nice.

>>14132128
Waking up or coming home from work to 2 buckets from 13 is the best.

>>14132133
Yup, it's great.

>>14132128
>unless you really spend your life in 3-2-A

y-yeah, w-who does that...

Now I stuck at 4-5 last dance...
Any suggestion, anon?
Does 5BB 1CV have more chance to kill Harbor-chan than 1BB 3CA 2CV or 3CA 3CV?

>>14132177
I did 4BB 2CV for chipping and I did 5BB 1 CV for final kill. Seems to work well.

>>14132177
>mfw I was about to ask the same

Shoukaku's kai2 is probably the 1 I await the most.
Here's hoping for side-tie panties in chuuha

Is 4-3 the best place to powerlevel CLs?

I'm trying to level Abukuma though it seems to take ages compared to 3-2-A powerleveing.

>>14132177
>>14132186
Is sparkling that big of a deal in this case as some other anons have said or did you get by without it?

>>14132221
I prefer 5-1 but it requires quite a lot of ASW to be effective.

>>14132224
I sparkled this month and got away with 5 runs and 8 buckets

>>14132231
Something like this for me too

So yeah try sparkling if you are having problems

>>14132227
Never thought of running that map as the chance of reaching the sub node is pretty slim.

And there's only one node compared to two nodes at 4-3.

>>14132224

>>14132186 here

I did no sparkling, which is why I've been sent home about 2~3 times.

Sparkling is free and only costs you time and it saves you buckets as well.

>>14132261
75% is pretty slim?

>>14132200
Sometimes we might share the same fate.
>>14132186
>>14132224
>>14132231
>>14132242
Then, this time I will go with full sparkling and 5BB 1CV. Hope it will be sure kill strategy for this map.

I thought today was the kai 2 update, but I still have a day to go.

>>14132312
36 hours.

>>14132312
Chill out, Zuikaku.

Fuck me sideways.

>>14132389
Are you not equipping your BBs with recon planes or something? Red T?

>>14132389
>2 hotels
>no kai 2 Kirishima
>meme carrier
>easy composition
And you still could not do it.

>>14132399
Head-on.

>>14132403
>meme carrier
What

RARE

>>14132431
Under what rock have you been living?

>>14132434
It's hard to hate her.

>>14132399
Also this is my loadout. Can't really crop up better.

>>14132466
Why the fuck would you give AP Shell to Hiei and not a Hotel?
Harunafags, I swear.

>>14132466

>double hotels

rip in peace you're resources

>>14132466
>no Saiun
You're really asking for trouble.

>>14132470
Because I want the heavies to hit harder on the boss?

>>14132481
Saiun is only needed for grinding.

>>14132482
Do you even understand how Sanshiki works?

>>14132481
All you need is one BB to hit the boss during night. Red T shouldn't matter that much

>>14132488
>Do you even understand how Sanshiki works?
Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but it worked.

>getting trolled endlessly by the 3-2 compass while trying to do the second ABKM quest

All of these refreshes are going to get my ass banned.

>>14132513
Level one Fusou would be able to do that as well.

Hotels don't need Sanshiki to damage boss, other BBs do. If you don't use Sanshiki on all BBs, Hotels should be the first ones to drop it because they need them far less. Plus, chuuha Hiei can't kill Ru Kai with AP cut-in. Chuuha Hotel can.

>>14132434
Akigumo is a lovely girl after all. She'd even draw a doujinshi for you.

>>14132540
For me or about me?

>>14132587
Both.

>>14132520
Did someone from /jp/ even got banned recently?

Well done.

what's a good sonar recipe?

I'm getting angry at 10/10/10/20 for giving me tons of planes and zero sonars.

>>14132680
as I say that, I get 2 sonars.

as expected, complaining on /jp/ helps chances.

>Assault battleship fleets
>fuckton of CV with good planes
>70-120 lv

>>14132696
It's still good exp even if you will lose. You will get a powerful fleet soon too.

>>14132466
>fit gun
>in non combined map
You're asking for this

>>14132742
There's nothing wrong with fit guns on low level ships.

Will she dethrone the memecarrier as the best CV?

>>14132776
If she doesn't I'll laugh because an event item Kai Ni is still worse than another ship at Kai.

>>14132776
No.

>>14132776
Probably not, but I expect the equipment to be dank.

>>14132776
She was my first CV after Akagi and she's been good to me since the start, so I hope she gets a good upgrade.
Even if she's never a memecarrier, she'll always be a good reppu mule.

What would you do if you woke up tomorrow and find out they banned all gaijin accounts permanently, and you can never access your account again?

>>14132865
commit sudoku

>>14132783
>steam catapult
>carrier-based Nakajima Kikka as default Kai Ni fighter with +20 AA

>>14132865
Nothing I could do about that so I wouldn't be too bothered

>>14132865
2014 was year ago.

>>14132865
Find a new hobby

>>14132865
be sad
wait for shitaku to get EN version
probably never play it cause all that lost progress

>>14132865

Immense depression followed by relief that I no longer have to play this stupid flash game all day every day.

>>14132865
I'd honestly have a panic attack. Kancolle is one of the only constants in my life that keep me sane instead of losing control.

>>14132895
You should remember the game fondly for all the joyful and laughter times you spent with your girls. Those happy memories means that youre time was not wasted.

>>14132865
Finally become a normalfag. It's the only thing I like anymore.

why

>>14132932
Two paper armor ships, it's not surprising.

>>14132932
>Yuubari
>married Kongou
It's always the one who married Kongou.

>>14132944
Serves them right.

>>14132924
Let's not kid ourselves here.

I wish PvP battles also had support expeditions.

>>14133022
You can't possibly be that bad to need support anon.

>>14132865

Laugh at their failures for literally hating money

>>14132865
Live life fully as a filthy secondary.

Please tell me I got lucky. I have never failed upgrading a quint and this is the 5th one. Meanwhile, I failed upgrading the Type 21 air radar kai twice and searchlight 3 times. I don't know if there is something going on here.

>>14133139
will you hate me if i ask a noob question>? i read the wiki but it's not clear there, if it's possible to play this game with english translation
i see some people post translated screens like >>14132466

>>14133211
>will you hate me if i ask a noob question
Yes.
> if it's possible to play this game with english translation
No.

>>14133211
I believe the chrome app translates the quests in-game

>>14133211
This "english translation" of yours is just a botnet for plebs.

>>14133226
thanks

>>14133211
No. Stop being EOP faggot

>>14133211
Use KCV. it's on the OP.

>>14133269
oh, what a nice program
thank you

>>14133468
Ah fuck, I thought it was Wakaba for a moment.

>>14133468

damn that looks great

>>14132221
CLs with planes can level reasonably well in 3-2A. It's not nearly as fast as 4-3 sub hunting given that even gimped CI cruisers can take MVP, but that's the trade off for it being very safe.

>>14133475

Nobody gives a fuck about Wakaba.

>>14133468
Fumizuki with short hair confirmed.

>>14133468
Where are Mochizukis glasses?

>The United States has the world's largest motor vehicle registered fleet, with almost 250 million vehicles
How do you plan to deal with this?

>>14133565
What does that have to do with cute girls in yukatas?

>>14133565
I throw lolis at them

>>14133565
Abyssals win in the end

>>14133468
Now it's Inazumas time!?

>>14133565
Install Jews.

>Farming bauxite in 4-3
>pre-bauxite node
>south
>south
>south
>south x 10
>West, 60 bauxite
what's the chance of getting to bauxite node anyways?

>>14133609
Not worth it

>>14133609
Just farm on 2-2

>>14133609
90% if you're doing a 4-3 quest.

>>14133620
That's amazing. Wish I saved the quest.

>>14133468
Who is this?

>>14133637
The real MC

>>14133637

Ikaduti

>>14133609
Did you remember to take a CAV along?

>>14133637
Inazuma

>>14133637
It was suppose to be Wakaba ;_;

>>14133468

I wanted Inazuma, but an Ikazuchi is fine too.

Can I just get my fucking Taihou? 52000 baux down the drain and I've only been compensated with 1 Maruyu and 1 Souryuu.

>>14133468
Oh kaminari sit on my lap

>>14133638
Why is Nagato the only damaged ship in this picture?

>>14133699
You poor soul.

83 tries now. I've lost all hope of ever getting one

>>14133737
Slow ships being bullied again.

>>14133742
Anon, I'm truly sorry

>>14133699
4000, 2000, 5000, 5200. x20 devmats.
You just have to believe.

>>14133699
>>14133742

wait till your HQ level is 90

>>14133782
my HQ level is 108 and I've been trying since literally day 1 of LSC

Bep is cute, I love her kai ni art.

I just want to tease her.

>>14133770
I trust Iona, but she isn't delivering.
>>14133782
pic related

>>14133782
I doubt anyone with 83 Taihou attempts is anywhere near level 90.

Tfw I sunk Kiso today

>>14133824
Heh. Kuso.

>>14133824
>>14133840

Nice.
Epic.
I like.

Christ my hype level for the update tomorrow is ridiculously high. I don't know why the thought of a likely disappointing K2 and some more yukatas is so enticing.

>>14133824
Subscribed and shared

>>14133742
>>14133782
>>14133787
Saw you guys suffering and decided to extend my own only to succeed. The hell is finally over

>>14133856
Any game update is bound to be exciting somewhat

>>14133872

4/2/5/5.2/20?

>>14133872

the /jp/ complaint magic is real

>>14133893
>4/2/5/5.2/20?
yep. Teruzuki flag for placebo since they both have really nice booty

is there a generally accepted point where i can stop levelling girls without a kai ni? to name a few: takanami, amatsukaze, naganami, atago, suzuya..

I know evasion scales with level but I'm wondering if there's a generally accepted point where you can leave them and still have them be usable for EOs/hard event maps

>>14133917
50~60

>>14133917
70-80

>>14133917
you should constantly be training whoever has the lowest level on you fleet, no matter what your median level is

>>14133917
Grinding is for faggots.

>>14133872
Congrats anon
LSC a shit

>>14133917
90_100

>>14133872

I just tried twice and got Shoukaku and MRY, could have been worse.

>>14133856
I'm just excited for what equipment she will come with.

>>14133929
mfw

>>14133919
>>14133918
>>14133939
none of the answers are comparable, but 50-60 definitely sounds low to me

>>14133926
I'm leveling on 5-4 so the amount of extra girls I can take along to level is a bit limited, but I'll work on it

is kai ni'ing mutsuki-class girls worth? their stats are comparable to shiratsuyu kai's so I'm assuming no, but is there something I'm missing that makes it worth?

Gaaooooo~

>>14133917
>>14133959
Naturally high LoS girls should be as high as possible. ASW girls are not as important since you can just do depth charge + sonar combo and high evasion doesn't matter in events since Abyss are way too fucking accurate. 60-70 are good stopping points, take advantage of Takanami and Akatsuki kai 2 high LoS.

>>14133964
Best CA.

>>14133964
Now give her the dick. You won't regret it.

>>14133959
>is there something I'm missing that makes it worth?

Save for completing the kandex, no. Their kai2 equipment is basically a slightly upgraded version of their shitty base equipment and can be replaced by pretty much anything else

>>14133966
>>14133968
She's alright, the last of her sisters to get Kai Ni. You really can't argue with 3 whole 20.3 no.2's though.

>>14133959
70 to 80 is an acceptable stopping point. Girls get actually decent accuracy at around L70, and experience doesn't get stupid until L80+.

For support expeditions, is shelling damage affected by the Daytime Cap?

>>14133965
LoS, ASW and evasion gain per level are shit because of formula.
Level doesn't matter, faggot

>>14134004
This.

THere's a reason Oyodo is the best ASW light cruiser despite having the lowest base ASW stat of all CLs

>>14134004
Total LOS affects artillery spotting rate

>>14134004
I don't want anybody to end up like the anon who couldn't even do the 2-5 DD monthly because of low level DDs and thus, insufficient LoS. Staking seaplanes and radars is not efficient.

>>14133917
I used a bunch of ships in events before when they were just around their Kai level and didn't notice anything significant, events also give a ton of levels.

With that said I don't stop levelling girls in pvp until they're at least level 70.

>>14134011

>forgetting about Melon-chan

>>14134028
Melon Ai when?

>>14134028
Melon has shitty overall stats so if you want your ships to come out of 1-5 unscratched Ooyodo is your best bet

>>14134034
>unscratched
Ooyodo can't protect your ships from node A.

How many bisko guns do you guys keep?
I got 4 now which is good enough for 2FBB with another unkai 38cm. Going to need to craft another Bisko if I want to make another set.

>>14134021
What the fuck are taking about. You only need slap 33 radars on DDs and two planes on CA and Oyodoo. Any kai DDs and CA work

>>14134048
0

>>14134048
Is 2 blueprints really worth the two 38cm kai guns? Let alone the countless LSC attempts

>>14134049
Aren't 33 radars unbuildable?

>>14134056
They are buildable.

>>14134054
Don't forget getting enough 41cm to even upgrade it and screws and time.

>>14134048
Just the ones my only Bisko came with. The 38Kais are both at +1 and probably won't go much of anywhere until I'm done with 35.6cms and maybe 41cms.

>>14134056
They very much are. I crafted one just today. Standard radar recipe

>>14134069
>'I am the bone of my planes'

やりました。

>>14134126
Somehow I like the simple version better, feels more dramatic and "crushing".

>>14134126
Good one

>>14134126
Souryuu's headband looks terrible.

>>14134151
Take that to Tanaka

>>14134156
But Tanaka is shibafu.

>>14134126

>>14134167
Yes, this is what I needed, its like they lost their soul, thank you.

>>14134162
That explains Kaga

Why is Shoukaku so elusive? I've been grinding 5-4 for DAYS and dumped so many resources into trying to craft her with no luck.

>>14134192
Should've grinded the event, fam.

>>14134192
Desire sensor.

>>14134192
Zuikaku and Iku are the only hardest drops in 5-4, everything else is common.

>>14134192
Do the Shoukaku ritual before sortieing.

>>14134201
Bullshit. I get at least twice as many of each of them as I get Mutsus.

>>14134195
Since the start of the event until now, I've farmed/crafted over 6 Kaga and 3 Zuikaku with no Shoukaku in sight. Is this a sign from my waifu and Shoukaku's sister that they don't want to be cucked?

>>14134215
Every shipgirl is polygamous.

Jesus Christ, Re. Calm the fuck down.

>>14134256
She hasn't appeared in any event ever since, we're still at devs' mercy.

>>14134260
She'll appear at Solomon's Round 3.

Any point in modernizing anti-air for non DD's?

Just did this, what happened to her? She was so cheerful before.

>>14134268

I think you mean next summer for Leyte.

>>14134294
You were warned.

>>14134290
You need it on Maya kai 2.

>>14134294

pray to Ireland that she will get a summer CG with that frown upside down

>>14134318
>shitbafu
>working instead of fapping to glocks
May as well wish her a better artist at this point.

>>14134318
Why Ireland?

>>14134307
>T21kai

But why?

>>14134307
I was about to upgrade T21 on that level, but then I realized it's vastly inferior to Fumo, so I'm just gonna wait a little longer.

>>14134334
It's upgradable and upgraded T21 kai gives more AA than FuMO, I presume.

>>14134333

just let that sink that sink in your head for a moment unless you can't comprehend epic memes at all

>>14134337
All you need is the AA stat, everything else is irrelevant. In fact, it frees up the FuMO for someone else.

>>14134334
He probably failed for the upgraded radars meme, I really doubt you could accurately measure the performance of their upgraded forms

>>14134337

T21 Kai is better than FuMO when upgraded.

>>14134342
Only meme I can think of related to Ireland is their distaste of ass, but I can't see how it can fit into this.

>>14134353
What comes to mind is the Irish Potato Famine do you get it now?

>>14134364
>Shibafu ships
>potato
Okay, but I never quite got why they're potatoes to begin with.

>>14134347
Nope. You see this is one reason I didn't want to change the table to include the multiplicant. AA only increases by 0.7*sqrt(stars). The AA radar modifier of *3 applies to the equipment's TOTAL AA stat after upgrading. So a 10 star type 21 kai would have 5+2.372= 7AA which is exactly the same as the FUMO. That 7AA is then subjected to the multiplier of 3 to calculate fleet AA.

>>14132865
Play Kancolle kai once it comes out.

Or if it comes out at this point

>>14134378
It's 7.1, not 7.

>>14134378
What's the formula?

>>14134378
>>14134392
Oops, 7.372. 7.1 is +9 T21 kai.

>>14134378
If it's exactly the same, then Maya has a dedicated radar to herself and the FuMO to whoever wants it, which is almost never since I also upgraded Type 32 surface radars for the CAs.

>>14134392
Stats round down to the nearest integer. 2.372 is still 2.

>>14134394
Fleet AA per ship= Ship's Base AA Value ＋ [Equipment type modifier × {Equipment's Base AA Value ＋ 0.7√(stars)}]

>>14134378
How do you even measure the effects of upgrading radars and AA?

>>14134425
Hell if I know. These values are all lifted from the japanese wikiwiki so you can either take their word for it or dismiss it as garbage.

How hard would it be to clear world 2 stuff with only CLs and DDs?

>>14134411
Stats round down, yes, but only AFTER the multiplication by 2.1.

For FuMO: ⌊2.1(7)⌋ = ⌊14.7⌋ = 14
For +9 T21 Kai: ⌊2.1(5 + 0.7√9)⌋ = ⌊2.1(7.1)⌋ = ⌊14.91⌋ = 14
For max T21 Kai: ⌊2.1(5 + 0.7√9)⌋ = ⌊2.1(7.2136)⌋ = ⌊15.148⌋ = 15

Effectively, max T21 Kai has 1 more fleet AA than FuMO. But only when it's at max.

Also if you didn't want to change the table, you shouldn't have added the AA modifiers in the table below, since HA guns, AA guns, air radars and AA directors all receive a x0.7 modifier in AA stat increase.

>>14134461
Apart from 2-4, very possible.

>>14134461
You can except for 2-4, which you need a CA and maybe a carrier.

>>14134466
Well I'm trying to rush to 2-4 so I can get on the grind, doing 1-5 so much hurts my soul.
Are there any specific setups needed? Or can I just bring KTKM for major hits?

>>14134463
You don't multiply it by 2.1. The multiplier for AA radars is 3.
For +9 T21 Kai: 3 x (5 + 0.7√9) = 3 x (5 + 2.1) = 3 x 7.1 = 21.3 = 21

For +max T21 Kai: 3x (5 + 0.7√10) = 3x (5 + 2.214) = 3 x 7.214 = 21.6 = 21

>>14134474
You need a few CAs for survival. It's the point where everything starts hitting harder.

>>14134504
Well I guess I could grind up Ashigara and Chikuma. Probably going to go 2CA-2CL-2DD

>>14134496
Oh, right.

But then consider his setup again: whether he'll get 1 extra fleet AA judging by the other equipment he has.

6(9) = 54, so we can ignore this.

4(√3.92 + √4.9) = 16.774

FuMO: 3(7) = 21
+9 T21 kai: 3(7.1) = 21.3
Max T21 kai: 3(5 + √4.9) = 2.164

Both +9 and max T21 kai will give him 1 more fleet AA than the FuMO.

Finally, consider the cases of one or two max 90mms.

4(√4.9) = 8.8544
4(√4.9 + √4.9) = 17.7088

In both cases, both +9 and max T21 kai will give him 1 more fleet AA than the FuMO.

>there are people who don't like Kongou, the goddess of perfection

I'll never understand.

>>14134544
I'm not good at math. If Fumo would have upgrades in the future, what's her AA value with +9 and max?

>>14134548
>monkey
>perfection

>>14134548
She's shit and entry level in more than 1 way.

>>14134548
Still perfect after 2 years, I love her hair the most.

welp, neither kancolle command center nor kancolle viewer allow me in regardless of editing cookies/pressing 'region cookie' button

did they chang their cookie thing recently or what

>>14134548

>>14134544
I wouldn't bother personally. The only reason I can see someone upgrading the T21 kai is if they REALLY want to give the FUMO to someone other than Maya. But really, why shouldn't Maya get it? The increase in accuracy and firepower can only help her do more damage in shelling, which helps her in not being a one trick pony. Also if the FUMO suffers from the air radar accuracy penalty (opinion even among the Japanese are divided on this) then no other CA will want it. They'd much rather use a T32 instead.

>>14134559
Yes, sometimes it work some others doesnt, kc3kai has a force cookie hack option ,try that.

>>14134559
Yes, but I never cleared the cache so I never had to do the new process.

>>14134548
Kongo herself is fine, it's just the fanbase that's shit.

>>14134567

It's better than Shimakaze's fanbase.

>>14134567
I think its just a biased view of it. I still remember the kagafag that lost the reppuu kai, and I dont see anyone calling them retards.

>>14134572
Pre or after 2013? This is really important.

>>14134549
3(7 + 2.1) = 3(9.1) = 27.3
3(7 +√4.9) = 3(9.2136) = 27.6408

>>14134562
I wouldn't either, but since he already took the time and effort to upgrade T21 to +8, he might as well upgrade it to +9 or max.

>The increase in accuracy
Now that you mention it, do upgraded air radars have increased accuracy?

>and firepower
FuMO only gives a fixed +3, not really worth mentioning.

>>14134378
I wish we could go back to "stats added" table instead of the current "effects added" that we have.

>>14134583
Which table are you talking about? I'm not following you.

>>14134548
Hiei is cuter.

>>14134579
The radar is only at 8 because I was upgrading quints.

>>14134587
The one where ASW has a x0.5 modifier instead of a x1 modifier.

>>14134589

Imagine actually believing this.

>>14134548
bongo a SHIT

Guess I should use my 2 Fumo radars on boss support from now on since there shouldn't be penalty or some sort, but I still refuse to sparkle everyone but the flagship when the morale cost drops like a motherfucker.

>>14134589
>>14134594

>actually believing this
Lol'd

>>14134591
I don't know wherex 0.5 came from but the x0.75 for ASW and x1 for firepower when it comes to upgrading sonars and depth charges comes straight from the wikiwiki.

>>14134567
>>14134572
>>14134573
Aren't they popular enough to ensure a wide variety of fans?

>>14134605
Wikiwiki changed the format from "stats gain" to "effect gain" some time back. Under the old format, ASW stat gains that ASW equipment gained had a x0.5 modifier, and since equipment ASW has x2 damage, that would mean that ASW equipment effectively has its ASW damage increased with a x1 modifier, which is reflected in the current format.

Also
>x0.75 for ASW and x1 for firepower
You got it mixed up.

This is going to be a long road.

>>14134559
Check if you're using the correct address.

>>14134625
Why are all of them so low level?

>>14134625
For Mikawa quests or to marry Shoukaku?

>>14134636
I'm doing a lot of grinding since I had to fly under ship locking last event with easy mode. I might just say screw the resources and go train another DD at 4-3 and let them level passively.

>>14134636
The low level ones are shit ships with low priority while Mutsu was likely obtained late, he probably only got around to leveling them recently.

>>14134642
Just for Kai Nis and completion and to have decent fallbacks around. Shoukaku is getting to 80 just in case for tomorrow.

>>14134646
Mutsu was obtained a long time ago actually, I just neglected her and Nagato for too long. Nagato is already at 80 which is where I want them both.

>>14134643
>>14134656
I dont think its "wise" to try and level so many ships at the same time, I would focus Shoukaku with scamp and maxed out cancer and put her as fs right now, the rest can "wait".

>>14134656
How could you? Mutsu is love. But yeah, I understand, I got mine in December but only started leveling her beyond Kai during Winter event. Now she's the highest level BB though.

>>14134681
I'm not too concerned, 80 isn't too far off and I don't NEED to Kai Ni her right away. I want to get a lot of leveling out of the way early so I can focus on stockpiling, another one of my shortcomings last event. Also, if I'm only leveling one or two ships at a time I get frustrated and bored.

Rate this table.

>>14134681
Pretty much this. I destroyed all my fuel reserves, but it was worth it.

>>14134699
0.1/10 not enough wood

>>14134699
Oops.

is it too late to get in on this?

>>14134706

No, this is actually a pretty good time to get into it since you have 2-3 months until the next event.

>>14134681
BBs and CVs are easy to level as it is and seeing as they're relatively high already, it makes sense to focus on lighter ships which don't see as much action.

>>14134706
It's pretty much the perfect time with most of the problems fixed, not to mention the Fall event will be easy, apparently.

>>14134705
What happened to the other AA equipment that's in the OP image? I thought it was different multipliers for different pieces.

>>14134705
If we're going to keep it to pure stats before any modifiers then yeah this looks good. You going to add the 2nd table?

Also maybe change the 3rd point to:
*Upgrade values from multiple pieces of equipment should be added together and have any modifiers (e.g. engagement type, formation, artillery spotting, yasen special attack modifier) applied to them before rounding down. E.g. a 535.6cm and a 635.6cm give +7 damage after rounding during line ahead and doukousen.

>>14134692
Hmm thats true, I didnt grind a ship serioulsy in a long time, so their levels come "naturally" for me now. Maybe its because Im gay and i triy to enjoy my time with them.
>>14134706
Not really, its always a good time, no event for at least 2 months so right now sounds good, forget about Akizuki and poor man's Bisko tough.
>>14134710
Yeah now that I look better, it doesnt look that bad, maybe it was just me trying to discuss something.

>>14134729
see
>>14134378

>>14134706
Pretty late in a sense that getting every must have ships and equipment will going to take you forever, but getting into the game and making a sense of it, marrying your shipfu, and realizing the fact that this game is nothing but a russian roulette with a revolver on your head, then yes you're not.

>>14134725
The stat added has the same multiplier for all effected equipment (x0.7). The different multipliers come into play only after that.

>>14134729
Will do. Hold on.

>>14134731
Is this nigger talking shit?

>>14134737
Android port being crossplatform could be good, maybe we can get something else than badly animated faces in gifmaker.

>>14134725
The formula for fleet anti air defense is
加重対空値 = Ship's Base AA Value ＋ [Equipment Type Modifier × {Equipment's Base AA Value ＋ 0.7√(stars)}]

Equipment Type modifier:
High Angled Gun, AAFD: 4
AA Gun: 6
AA Radar: 3
Red Gun, Sanshikidan: 0

As you can see the individual equipment modifiers apply to the equipment's TOTAL AA VALUE AFTER UPGRADING. It was a mistake to include the equipment type modifier in the table in the first place.

>>14134751
Post your new image and I'll revise the OP template at page 10.

>>14134749
I want try playing KC on my phone, only if it has a third-party app like KCV.

>>14134750
Why does Roma hate Bismarck?

>>14134759
I'll let >>14134738 handle it since he volunteered.

>>14134761
I doubt its going to be flash based, the logical thing would be a html5/web port its going to be java based emulating flash linux in virtualbox.

>>14134762
Possibly related to the actual Roma's sinking by German bombers.

>>14134762
Misdirected anger, it's not her fault.

Even though the spring event was forever ago I'm still salty that the Pasta BBs both require blueprints for kai.

>>14134787
Maybe if you're not lazy to do your EOs, you wouldn't bitch about it. Everyone should be sitting with more than 30 unused medals at this point (Got 32).

>>14134577
I came for Shimakaze and dumped her shortly after got her. Seems like she's only popular in 2013 lol
Of course I'm 2013fag

>>14134799
I do all my EOs, I have since the second I unlocked them except for 5-5 which I just unlocked yesterday. I've only been around since January and I need 6 more blueprints.

>>14134809
I was talking about fanbases tough, everything got weird after 2nd half of 2014, not sure how to explain it.

>>14134759
Here. I'm too lazy to change the name though.

Also I removed the accuracy portion (at least for the time being) because people are still divided over as to what the increase in accuracy is, and where and when it applies. I'll add it back if there's a consensus; I've improved the formula I'm using so it's now just a matter of dragging it.

>>14134851
Just put it in and smack a (tentative) tag over it.

Wanted a biscuit but instead got a helping of escargot

New thread

>>14134871
>>14134871
>>14134871

>>14134869

どうせ皆陸奥になる～

>>14134877
Good morning.

>>14134877
hows ur job m8 LOL

>>14134822
Kongou replace Shimakaze for secondary bait spot and fanbase

>>14134851
You also missed how AA guns give torpedo stat which is pretty much confirmed according to the wikiwiki. I also agree with keeping the accuracy stat in with a tentative title.