/jp/ - Otaku Culture

For the most part E7 uses the same fleet used in E6 right?

>tfw 180 S ranks and no Yuu/Roma drop
what do I do /jp/

>full sparkled fleet
>1st try: taiha'd on the first node
>2nd to 4th tries: sent to a dead end
>5th try: everyone misses, all the enemies land critical hits. C rank
>6th try: taiha'd on first node again

It's like a fucking nightmare.

>>13967889
Sparkling is a lie.

>Eugen crit the bitch in chuuha for 240+ damage
That's good and all, but I really want to nerf BB Hime too. I can only get less than 100 damage when I AS her where I can get 200+ damage with her in E-6. Fuck.

I'm about to start E6 with this fleet. With 22k fuel/ammo and 9k bauxite left, do I even have a chance to beat it on hard or should I go normal?

Any other comments/improvements for this setup?

>>13967913
(Fixed my duplicate Saiun with a set of skilled Type-21 fighters).

In general, is E6 as bad with losing planes so that I should set bombers on the large slots?

>>13967933
Yes. In fact the entire event is a plane slaughterfest. General rule is to keep your bombers on the large slots.

She is real.

>>13967951
Congrats. How many runs?

>>13967951
Please don't tempt me to go back to that map. I gave up after 120+ runs.

>>13967955
I wasn't really counting, probably 30-40 s-ranks.

So, time for last dance?

>>13967945
But then this will cost even more bauxite I guess?

So after the final kill, when you wanna come back to farm the map, is the boss in final form or revert to normal form?

Does this look like last dance?

>>13968057
Yes
>>13968004
Yes
>>13968059
No

Is it better to put 1 Kongou on the escort fleet for E-7 (no Roma or Bismarck) or go full torpedoes with 3DD (Shigure, Hatsushimo, Yukikaze)?

>>13968059
nope

>>13968004
yo have at least 37 more runs

>>13968062

Yes on an either-or question, alright.

Is it better to use a +6 Type-91 AP shell or a +0 Type-1 AP shell to damage the E6 carrier princess?

>>13968093
T91+6

How do you go to node B on E-6?

>>13967913
>saiun
>torp bomber in small slot
>no ABKM
>35.6cm lel
Is this why people keep saying E6 is hard?

>>13968102
People say E-6 is hard because they're kuso.

>Sparkle E4 Fleet
>Send Boss support
>Hiyou gets chuuha'd at Node F
>Refuel, bucket, send back out

>Round 2
>Poi gets Taiha'd at H
>Refuel, bucket, send back out

>Round 3
>Hiyou gets fucked at F again

God damnn, my biggest problem in this map is making it to the fucking boss. Sparkiling doesn't do shit against RNG. I'm not even hurting for resources, other than IRL time. I don't have time to keep sparkling everyone, just to get sent home before the boss.

>>13968102
Even with almost the exact same set up as someone who said E-6 was easy, for me it was much harder than E-3 and 4. As usual, it's just how much RNG wants to fuck you in the ass.

>>13968102
Is saiun not necessary for E-6?

>>13968121
Not that anon but I suffer 4 times red T in boss node consecutively.
But I recommend to NOT use saiun in this event. It's just RNG playing with me.

>>13968102
There's absolutely nothing wrong with bringing a saiun or using 35.6cm on the kongous. In fact, using anything else on them in a combined fleet would truly be considered the pinnacle of retardation. I cleared E-6 hard with these and I only had to retreat 3 times.

>>13968121
Green T has no effect on night battle and you definitely don't need green-T to wipe off the escort DD. Red T is an advantage.
Bring T2 for the contact bonus.

>>13968136
I vote this for the most retarded advice ever on a kancolle thread.

>>13968115

There is no way people think E4 is hard.

>>13968110
When chipping don't even bother with sparkling. Just run route support and keep trying.
Took me 30~ runs to get to the final kill.
Then just go south to finish her off.
>>13968155
>It wasn't hard for me so It mustn't be for everyone

>>13968102
>>torp bomber in small slot
Changed that but since I'm low on bauxite I would prefer to replace as few planes as possible.
>>no ABKM
Only L60 now, I'm working on leveling her but it will take some time.
>>35.6cm lel
Accuracy penalty. Also I fucked up with locking L84 Nagato on E4.

But hey, I got to the boss on my first run and almost killed it even though I had to send 2 ships home via fleet command and had no support fleet.

>>13968155
The vast majority of people think E-4 is hard.

>>13968166
E6 is easier than E3, what are you even worrying about?

Do I bother with E-7 hard or no? All of the maps went pretty decent for me except E-4. God that map fucking raped me and shat on me harder than all the fatalpulse doujins combined.

Feels lame as fuck to go easy/medium after doing everything hard but I want Teruzuki. Only girl I care for from this event.

>>13967822
I did X3Y2 and Ayanami was able to do a cut-in on hard mode boss in ysaen with +28 torps for 423 damage (probably double crit) which is only possible if the boss' armour was lower than 217 (in best-case scenario). It is more likely that her armour was just 190. So, you don't need to kill both thrice. Once is probably enough.

>>13968192
Up to you if you want to take the risk.

The nightmare is over, Shigure delivers

>>13968192
I started chipping E-7 with just 15k fuel/ammo. I have just ~300 HP left on the gauge. Don't puss out, TTK, you'll regret later.

I did start out with more buckets than you (400), though, so you're going to have to do some bukeet expeditions.

>>13968192
It took me 200 buckets to get the boss bar to half, but maybe I'm just unlucky.

I gave in /jp/, I'm giving reinforcement equipment to my 3DDs that have been the main reasons for retreat. I feel like I have violated some important principle.

>>13968220
Don't treat jelly donuts and damecons like RPG elixirs anon. They were meant to be used some time.

Should Maya go in the main fleet or the escort fleet for E-7 hard? Main fleet means I can have another cutin ship in the escort fleet but having her in the escort fleet means I can field another carrier.

>>13968192
You have 2weeks left.
That is more than enough resources to actually do E7 hard twice.

>>13968225
True, but this is not even the last kill, using them seem to be a waste. Besides I don't really want to hear or see my girls sink, somehow it feels like an NDE for them. Putting them through that seems cruel. Autistic, I know.

>>13968229
With maxed rank Reppu variants, you can afford to have fewer carriers.

>>13968192
It depends on your personality. No, really.
If you seek challenge and challenge itself is the most important thing to you, there's no reason to lower the difficulty. In this case it's all about achieving something. Do you have Akizuki? If yes, even failure won't be that painful.

Do you play the game to collect cute girls and relax? Are difficult maps only an addition and you don't really care if you complete the map on the highest difficulty? Is Grade A medal just a shiny trophy you don't really care about?
In this case you might just switch to easy and breeze through it.

It's up to you. Which type are you?
Type 1 -> hard
Type 2 -> easy

Medium makes no sense since Tanaka can't into difficulty scaling.

>>13968233
A week and a half anon. Don't give him too much sense of safety.

>>13968225
>Don't treat jelly donuts and damecons like RPG elixirs anon.
No, they might be useful in the future!

No more map farming for me

（　´_ゝ`）
Hours and hours in MS Paint

>>13968342
What point are you trying to make?

How to reliably get S rank E5 easy? My girls always do this kind of things to me.

>>13968348
probably how ichiso is always copy pasting his stock poses/faces, but that's nothing new.

E-6 hard comes with 2 BB hime at the end, right?

Is Shigure yandere? Why do all of her seasonal sprites have her with deadpan yandere eyes?

>>13968348
That Ichiso is the greatest illustrator to have graced the planet, of course.

BTW, what's everyone's opinion on the transparent bangs? Looks pretty terrible IMO.

>>13968363
Support fleet? AP Shells? Also had some issues with killing the E5 boss on hard. Also I hope you're going easy on the other maps as well with these locks.

Fuck, I'm trying to do E2 hard with Uzuki, Kikuzuki and Nagazuki.

It is way too hard, they keep getting blown up.

Should I push through or replace them with some Kai2 destroyers?

>>13968380

Just ran it. Again the same thing happened. AP on both BBs. Their night battle sucks. I guess I'll run support fleet.

I am clearing this map at easy to farm for Roma. Medium on E6, easy on E7 since I only have a few day left to play. Gotta go for a trip soon.

>>13968387
Don't put Kamo in flag. Put your BB there for extra day cut-in/DA activation rate. Give Kamo damecon if necessary, but given how easy that map is, you probably won't need one.

Back in Summer 2014, my Midway E6 run was in the 100s with a rather inefficient fleet. I'm getting the same premonition from back then, hold me /jp/, I think I will be stuck in E7 for a very, very long time.

>>13968382

Replace 1 of the destroyer to something that is not a destroyer. Anything.

>>13968398
Midway has no FCF or free repair slot.
You have both for E7.

>>13968363
Not with Akitsushima.

Use 3XX 2DD 1CAV. Probably the most reliable is 1BB 1CLT 1CV(L) 2DD 1CAV. CV(L) at 2nd slot and DDs at bottom.

>>13968382
I ran Wakaba, Nenohi and Kiyo.
Just pray to RNG or swap them out for some more durable ships.

>>13968396

My Akitsushima is level 23. Put her anywhere else she is likely to get blown out before reaching boss.

My BBs always trigger AS/DA in daytime. The problem is KTKM. She hardly cut-in at night.

>>13968401
Midway has no random compass, debuff mechanics or double Wo kais with red Takoyakis either.

>>13968410
Just run DA on her.

>>13968400
Don't you have to run 3 destroyers for surface fleet?

>>13968410
Go Kai Kamo and put KTKM in flag or just run DA and hope for crits.

>>13968402

I have limited options. Both my only CAV are in E2 already.

>>13968412
Midway had a carrier princess in double line that could take a hotel from full to red even with Red T.

>>13968412
>no random compass
100+ LoS doesn't guarantee boss node. There is a small chance for you to go offcourse when you are doing lv100+ thanks to level scaling.

>>13968413
>>13968418

Did they nerf CLT cut-in rate? I saw people ran 2 red guns on her last event too.

>>13968426
Cut-in rate is the same.
It's just that DA could net you the kill and is reliable to proc 100% of the time.

>>13968426
they don't but Cut-In is too much of a gamble.

>>13968426
No? CLTs just do shit ton of damage regardless if you have DA and cut-in. And because KTKM only has 30 luck and Ooi has like 15 or something DA can be more reliable.

>>13968436
> proc 100%
It's close, but it's not 100%.

>>13968426
People only use the cut-in setup when the event is hard and you need a 1hitko.
When it is easy like the last event, a double attack would easily net you a clean kill.

>>13968421
And node M has double Wos who could just nuke your DDs to oblivion. Not to mention Ne and late model elite's torp are deadly as hell as well. Repairing hotels is replaced with refuelling a second fleet and a debuff fleet.

I will yield and say that both Midway and E7 have their annoying aspects and both of them are just as depressing to me.

>>13968422
I was level 100+ as well. There is an LoS range where compass becomes random however, if you exceed that range, you will be able to get to the boss. I remember it being a huge problem for me as well. Besides, we are talking three random nodes in the E7: The start, D (if you have no Akitsumaru) and J.

I know my buckets won't last me.

>>13968437
>>13968438

In other words, DA deal shit ton of damage but cut in deal even more damage but more unreliable?

>>13968465
Yes.

>>13968460
Looks rough, only chance is compensating with full sparkle and expensive fleets and doing expeditions hardcore.

Holy shit. That blue Wo on E-6.

>>13968522
She brought her friend on E-7 (even easy), prepare your anus.

>>13968554
How many variation does she have now?

>>13968558
Wo, Wo elite, Wo Flag, Wo Kai, Wo late model(I don't know, it was back in Spring, I think), Wo kai late model (the one with the glowing takoyakis)

>>13968561
They might as well number them at this point. I can't keep up with all these variations.

>>13968471
I'm already doing route support. And BWS wrecked my Haruna to 18hp. Those two BWS can eat shit together with BB Hime.

>route support didn't appear for 4 consecutive nodes

Why did I send them out again?

>>13968583
To eat your precious resources, anon.

>>13968587
They could come in and miss for all I care. At least I can feel that it isn't such a waste.

>inb4 they really come in just to miss

>>13968583
I have this voodoo ritual of making that all the girls have 50+#nodes worth of morale, and waiting at least 2 minutes to sortie the main fleet after the support expedition. May as well try that if they didn't show up 4 nodes in a row with everyone sparkled.

Has anyone tried aerial support shelling?

>>13968583
Join the church of kira kira.

17 runs of failure ;_;
Prinz attempted the most cut-ins while Abukuma only got 1 off.

>>13968583
boss support = flagship sparkled
route support = sparkle all 6

>>13968607
Even with sparkling route support is not a guarantee.

>>13968583
I notice a massive difference between sparkle and non-sparkle for route.

>>13968609
You have 45mins left.

>>13968561
The glowing takoyaki ones have 2 variants.

空母ヲ級改flagship(新型艦載機(赤))
空母ヲ級flagship(新型艦載機(準赤))

Why do people hate Surface Task Force for E-7? With Akitsumaru isn't it a viable method?

>>13968590
So the next run have them support every node. RNG at it's finest.

>>13968636
20% fuel remaining at boss node.

>>13968636
because that's only for armor break runs.
You will take too many damage because you have less fuel than going east.

Does this look like last dance?

>>13968110
I suffered the same exact thing earlier this week. Stay strong.

>>13968145
I vote you to be the most retarded poster ever. Red T can be good.

>>13968643
>>13968640
But this opposed to getting trolled by compass when you go Carrier Task Force and get sent south, or getting sent to Y, or being forced to use more than 1 CVL for branching prayer, and escourt fleet getting slapped by Wo?

I dunno. Have people tried Akitsumaru + Surface Task Force and has it failed a lot more than Carrier Task Force route?

>>13968663
Why don't you try it?

>>13968609
wwwwww

>>13968663
Either way, it's death. Just pick your poison and see where it leads you to.

>>13968663
On my XY run, I didn't need to do yasen, so I decided to continue. And pre-boss was already taihamatsuri due to 40% fuel. I can't imagine how it'd be on 20% fuel.

Actually I can, because I've tried a few routes through north too, and boss node was a fucking taihamatsuri.

Why don't you try out the route yourself?

>>13968666
I will in a day once I get some semblance of stockpiling if people haven't tried Surface Task Force pathing and are just assuming it gets shit on more than Carrier pathing.

I mean at this point why not. Carrier Task Force looks shit as it is.

Does XY even apply for Easy? I'm afraid my resources aren't looking well for it

>>13968701
yes

So for nodes XYK for weakening the boss I pretty much have to pick the top route at the selection node using kidou and night battle at K to kill the wo kai? Then I have to do suijou with the south route and kill both installation bosses?

Is that the way to go or is there an easier way to do it?

So what's actually a good comp for E7?

>>13968709
Don't bother with K.

>>13968709
K is not confirmed.
Just do XY 3times each in easy and then ramp up the difficulty to hard.

>>13968663
>>13968675
OK. I will spoonfeed you this time. Just try it yourself and stop pull thing from your ass

>>13968720
Does killing multiple times actually do anything? Wouldn't 1 each be enough?

>reach the boss
>girls doesn't aim trash until yasen

Why?!

>>13968733
No one's pulling anything from their ass, you're fucking retarded.

>>13968735
I (>>13968196) didn't need to kill Y thrice to nuke the boss.

>>13968735
Nobody knows. You will end up killing multiple X along the way if the compass decides you're a tourist.

>>13968738
They all want to impress you. Gotta go for the big game.

>>13968735
Nobody knows, people just do 3 times to be on the safe side.

>>13968743
I would love them more if they aimed the trash.

E-7甲攻略スレ
水上でB寄り、機動でE寄り
あきつ丸でD→H固定および水上の場合は空母を足すとB
あきつ丸を含む機動で高確率でB
第一艦隊の戦艦+正規空母≦3でJ→Y回避(基本J→M 稀にJ→L)
編成例：戦艦2+正規空母1+軽空母2+他1(重巡や軽空母等)
丙でXY撃破後に難度変更でボス弱体化可能

Seems like it is official that BB+CV can only be less than or equal 3 to avoid Y.

>>13968763
Does escourt fleet BB count towards this?

>>13968763
God damn it. Every. fucking. event. CVLs always are required.

After this event I'll actually get Chitose and Chiyoda even though I detest their personality and looks.

>>13968763
Official? Where's the source for this?

>>13968770
>第一艦隊の戦艦+正規空母
No, it doesn't. So stuff as much CVL as you can if you wish to sortie with 2BB.

>>13968763
1BB+2CV+2CVL+Maya sound feasible. I am going to try it weekend.

>Armor debuff reset
Welp, another day, another XY farm.

>>13968763
So going to B with carrier is still random?

>>13968783
I think 2BB+1CV+2CVL+Maya is more fesible. Without that second BB, it's going to be a nightmare for clearing them Black Wock Shooters.

>>13968796
75%/25% split

>>13968801
With 4carriers you can stack double blue bombers.
You only need >396 AS + buffer.

>>13968806
Not that blue planes are going to do anything once you reach boss node though.

Is Unryuu worth farming for? I'm not too keen on farming for her and using a blueprint on her but the quests for SCAMP and Reppuu 601 seem useful.

>>13968775
>I'll actually get Chitose and Chiyoda even though I detest their personality and looks
I can understand Chiyoda since being a siscon is her only personality trait, but why Chitose?

Also, waiting warmly for Chitose/Chiyoda Kai 3 with Kuro's new shiny look. Or at least an art update.

>>13968811
Well at least when they reach the boss node they can actually still attack.

>>13968821
The drop rate is very good so I would recommend it if you have the resources to spare.

>>13968825
>Chitose/Chiyoda Kai 3 with Kuro's new shiny look
Will their tits grow even further?

>>13968821
This event is one of the worst for farming, but Reppuu 601 is very useful. SCAMP is a nice tool, but you won't use it too often due to limited number of slots.

Slots for skilled fairies fucking when? Akashi fairy would be a great thing if we could put aux. items in these slots (searchlights, star shells, lookouts, SCAMP, special ammo, etc.). Onigiri- and damecon-only slots are gay.

>Armor reset time
>Take Suijou to clear XY
>Going to make it all the way to the boss node unscathed
Wait
>Yukikaze gets Taiha'd by a DD
Nevermind, this is nothing out of the ordinary.

So what does Ar196Kai double chevron do? They didn't even come out during aerial phase.

>>13968851
>They didn't even come out during aerial phase
It's a recon seaplane.

>>13968857

Zuiun join aerial phase.

>>13968155
Are you me? Cleared E4 hard without support here.

>>13968860
Zuiun is a bomber.

>>13968846
On the bright side, I chipped 54 hp off boss. I think I am now Last dance. Can someone confirm?

>>13968436
It's not 100%, in fact IIRC if you get damaged the proc rate can go down.

>>13968861

No. You are not me. I used hybrid suicide fleet.

>>13968868
Yeah, looks like it.

>>13968868
Just use a KCV that can tell you how much HP the boss has left.

>>13968872
>suicide fleet
Kuso.

>v3.8.2.189
Update to version 4 already, FreyYa.

Preparing for E-6 and I was wondering when it says I should avoid putting Kirishima and Hiei together does that mean they can't be in the same main fleet or escort fleet or does it mean they can't be in the combined fleet together?

Should I give my Shigure Kai torp setup and move the AACI on Isuzu? E-6 medium last dance, and I'm not sure how to kill the boss, as I never succeeded.

Cleared E5 on easy. It feels so wrong. I don't know how to describe it. I was planning to clear it on hard.

I hope I will get Roma when I come back here to farm.

Akitsu + 2 Nagato + 2 Kusou + Kaga / 2 CA 1 FBB 1CL 2DD sent me to C node, is this normal?

>>13968896
I'm on 200 S ranks on hard and no Yuu/Roma.

>>13968900

Seriously? How many resources have you sank in there?

>>13968897
No. Unless you're trolling, Akitsumaru should be guaranteed south. If your case is true, perhaps using Hotels send you south? Maybe using Akitsumaru and no Hotels can send you east?

>>13968904
~50k and 600 buckets.

Does anybody know yet whether multiple kills on X and Y lower the armor further?

Help
Not even finished with E6 yet
Wish I'd have done it on medium

>>13968908
Not trolling you, no I'm not using hotels.

>>13968909

Have you cleared E7 yet?

>>13968763
slowpoke here with a shitty TL

>E7 hard mode advice thread
>surface starts B carrier starts E
>Akitsumaru in fleet goes D -> H, adding carriers in surface fleet goes B
>Using Akitsumaru in carrier fleet high chance of starting B
>Having less than or equal to 3 battleships and standard carriers total in first fleet will avoid J -> Y. Will generally go J - > M rarely J -> L
>Example of above: 2BB 1CV 2CVL 1XX (CA or CVL pref)
>It's possible to clear XY nodes on easy then switch to hard and she'll still be weakened

>>13968915

With those buckets you are fine. Just expedition and natural regen on ammo.

>>13968917
Well, >>13968924 this just confirmed Akitsumaru isn't always south then. You just got extremely lucky in going east with Surface Task Force.

>>13968921
I cleared it on day 4.

>>13968897
wiki says this shit
>Having a FBB in your 2nd fleet has a small chance to dead end route to A from B.

>>13968941
>>13968909
How the fuck do you have this much resources to spend but couldn't grab Yuu and Roma on previous events? Or are you just trying to get dupes and get equipment?

>>13968953
Dupes of course.

>>13968954
For what purpose?

>>13968889
Never mind tested it myself. As long as they aren't in one of the fleets together it's fine.

>>13968162
Route support is doing jack shit. Eating up twice as many resources as my main fleet for no benefit whatsoever. What good is taking down a couple of destroyers before the fight starts when Ta and Wo just one-shot my DDs and CVL immediately afterwards?

Even if I'm not worrying about sparkling, I still have to wait 5 to 10 minutes between runs for my morale to go back to normal levels.

I'm being too paranoid. I don't feel clearing XY thrice takes large effect, should I go with 5 or beyond?

>>13968960
Equipment, probably.

Anyone of you ever accidentally scrapped or use event ships as modernization fodder before?

>>13968960
Torps and guns?

>>13968974
Try 10 instead.

>>13968985
No, because I lock everything I want to keep.

>>13968974
I was paranoid and went with 5 each. I'm still over 160k fuel/ammo/steel after E-7 though so a 400-500 ammo/fuel sortie wasn't a big deal.

>>13968897
I was thinking of running this identical comp.

Can you try replacing the FBB in the escort and report back if it works?

>>13968985
I usually lock every reward right after clearing so I don't do this. Did you goof?

>>13968985
Personally I haven't, but I remember some unfortunate fella did that for his Akizuki.

>>13968985
Yes Abukuma 2 years ago but got a new one 3 days ago

>>13968998

No. But I almost forgot to lock Libeccio just now.

>>13968999

Someone at /jp/ did that?

>>13969004

Abukuma? Do you mean Mikuma? Or 2 years ago it is very important? It can be obtain by 30/30/30/30 easily.

>>13968985
accidentally scrapped kinugasa before back in november last year. just got her again like a week ago

>>13968985
Stopped in the very last moment, but my first event ship nearly got that fate. I've been making a conscious effort to lock them first thing since then.

>>13969011
Yeah, it's in the autumn '14 event losses compilation.

Speaking of which, where's the ones for this spring and summer?

>>13969004
>participated in spring '13
Post Shinden Kai.

>>13968985
Sakawa. I gave so little shit about her and only beat the event for the sake of beating it. Went to sleep after getting her and didn't bother locking, after waking up the next day I scrapped her while doing sparkles.

Honestly? I probably would've scrapped her anyway. I have no idea why the devs thought such an uninteresting, generic, stupid Konishi monkey ears light cruiser could be considered a decent last map award. At least trophy ships like Isokaze and Teruzuki look cute as hell.

>>13969041
Simple inversion. Sakawa looks bad, but sounds cute. Isokaze and Teruzuki look cute, but sound horrible.

>>13969041
She doesn't even have any kai equipment.

can't i collection

>>13969041
Sakawa is still the worst last map reward up to now.

Musashi
Teruzuki
Isokaze
Kamo
Nowaki
Amagi
I401
Sakawa

>>13969041

There seems to be many people hating Sakawa. I don't understand. There are many other plain CLs but I don't see people hate them.

>>13969070
cunt eye collection

>>13969072
>forgetting best last map reward
>forgetting hotel
Update these two in.

>>13969072

I'll put I401 at second best though.

>>13969078
Can This

>>13969091
kek

>>13969085
I started from IBS onward.
I know useless hotel was from summer, but who was the first trophy? Zuikaku?

>>13969072
But Akitsushitma is the worst reward.

>>13969054
What about Nowacchi?

>>13969077
When her sisters look pretty sexual, Sakawa ruined my expectations.

>>13969101
Both are okay, I think? I don't really know, she's running expeditions 24/7.

>>13969101

Nowacchi should be an exception. She is cute and sounds cute.

>>13969072
Sakawa is usable and has above average stats among non kai ni CL.

Akitsushima? She can't equip midgetsub, nor daihatsu. And the only 2 maps she has a purpose has alternative composition that lead to the same route AND using her is a liability.

Stop saying nonsense, will you?

>>13969098
Shinden Kai, the only last map reward to be equipment rather than a ship.

For fuck's sake RNG.

>>13969077
She was the worst reward even in her own event.
Akashi, Ooyodo and Reppuu kai shit all over Sakawa and they were easier to get. She was a huge disappointment as a last map reward. Not cute, look like she has down and doesn't have stats to cover up her shortcoming.

>>13969054
>Teruzuki
>sound horrible
Get out.

>50k steel left for E7 hard Last Dance
>Haven't sunk boss a single time during chipping
How fucked am I?

>>13969145

Branching.

>>13969149
CL with joint highest base luck, mate.

>>13969156
Like I said, what branching?
6-3 is easier with a regular AV since they can equip midgetsub and have better stats.

E5 is easier with 2DD and 1CAV than Kamo + 1 DD.

She can't even chuuha a destroyer even in green T FFS.

>>13969182

How about Taitei-chan?

>>13969149
>not cute
Unless you really have troubles with high pitched voice, she is one of the sweetest girl possible and even declare her love without bruteforcing like kongou.

Same could be said for Isokaze. Only her looks save her despite being the final reward of the second worst event ever.

>>13969193
I don't even get the purpose of that plane. The only thing it does is that you can't fail resource gathering with the seaplane nodes in 6-3 and E-5, while regular seaplane might fail.

However, the damn plane can't attack at all. It doesn't serve as a seaplane bomber but a big seaplane scout.
To make things worse, Akitsushima's plane slots are all stuck at 1.

>>13969209
You can fail resource gathering in E-5? I've never failed even with normal planes.

>>13969209

Good points. You beat me. The only thing I can say now is wait for Kai Ni.

>>13969209
I just want one map where Taitei chan is useful.

>>13969221
>yfw she becomes a repair ship at kai ni
>yfw no more Taitei-chan for her

>>13969236
Simple, bring back equipment-based branching.

>>13969221
don't misunderstand me. She is a cute girl and all, but so is Sakawa in my books.
It is just so annoying to see people calling sakawa "useless" despite being a decent ship, whereas Kamo's is ten times worse was the final reward of a moderately annoying event.

Spring 2014 was a joke, except BB hime being a jerk at time, while Spring 2015 wasn't difficult either but still expensive at times.

>>13969236
If that shit was an attacking plane, it would be glorious consideirng its historical equipment.
But still, her stats make her less desirable than a DD.

>>13969249
>back
Since when there was an equioment based branching?

>>13969153
I never sunk her until my actual kill and only used about 30k steel for the last dance. I was burning through ammo/fuel like crazy since I was refreshing when I get sent to B/Y.

Just bring 4 cut-in ships and play cut-in roulette and you'll probably eventually get lucky.

>>13969257
>Since when there was an equioment based branching?
Drums, in 5-4, 5-5 and at least one map in spring 2014 (E1).

>>13969257
Maybe he's referring to AL/MI and stupidly high LOS requirements? I needed 4 Saiun to reach the boss and I didn't like it.

>>13969267
Dear me, it was already a year that I completely forgot that.
yeah drums, but will they be crazy enough for taitei, which is an exclusive weapon only equippable on an exclusive ship?

Tanaka is a sadist, but his team proved they didn't want to shit on people who don't have the specific ship for branching purpose.

>>13969269
I remember that. I didn't even have 4 saiun at the time and had to rely on type 2s.

>dawn of the deadline looms
>E-5, E-6, 3-5 and 4-5 in the same day

CAN'T GIVE UP ON MY HOPES AND DREAMS

GIVING IT ALL I'VE GOT TO STAY (in the city)

>>13969243

Finally Akashi can have some free time. Also the success rate for improvements in Akashi/Akitsushima factory will be different for them on different days of the week.

>>13969273
E1 boss drop, Taitei-chan required for compass rules in a later map.

Better still, another flying boat as E1 clear reward as well so they don't have to Kai her.

>E7 EZ
>3 runs
>30 buckets
>an insane amount of resources
>manage to do the bitch maybe 180 damage total
Okay, how the fuck are you supposed to do this?

You're supposed to kill her 8 times? How? It'll take weeks just chipping.

Yes, I have killed X + Y.

So is this appropriate for E4?

I'm planning to do E6 on medium later so I still can't risk locking anyone important.

Should I be saving Poi for E5 or E6?

Also why is everyone using Zuihou?

Morning, /kcg/...

>>13969306
>level 22 Shimakaze
>non kai-2 RJ

Nope, what the fuck are you doing? You'll get air denial at this rate.

>>13969306
As long as your BB and CA have sanshikidan, it is fine, although I wouldn't recommend Kinugasa considering how weak she is.

You don't need poi for E5 nor E6. E5 is so easy you can use scrub kai ni like Ushio, or even kai DD. E6 requires AA CI girls like Akizuki.

Zuihou is there because most people prefer to keep big CVL like Junyou for E6.

>>13969306
>Also why is everyone using Zuihou?
Retards who used RJ for E3 instead of E4 like they should have.

>>13969318
At those levels I doubt he's going hard mode anyway, he should be fine.

>>13969273
They wouldn't. At least not for beginner maps. Devs, despite sadist, have always think for players who cannot access event exclusive ships (it's a different story if the ship is farmable or craftable, LSC including). Even this E5 has alternate paths for people who do not have Akitsushima.

>>13968720
>in easy and then ramp up the difficulty to hard

What's the point of switching to easy?

>>13969306
Almost forgot: 4 green planes on RJ, and you can replace Kinugasa for a third BB.

>>13969304
>E7 Hard
>48 hours
>500 buckets
>40k steel
>Finally Last Dance

>>13969326
Fuck, I used Junyou for E-4. What do I do now? I still have Chitose, RJ and Hiyou though. My lineup of CVs are Hiryuu/Kaga/x/x, and Turkey is still free.

>>13969149
Yeah, mate. She is useful than Nowaki, Isokaze and fucking Akitsushima. Stop spreading lies with your hatred

>>13969334
>>13969292

>>13969352
Fuck, forget it, I said something wrong. You don't need any CVL for E6, I thought about E3 because that shit was a nightmare without any CVL.

You are all good.

I've fapped to Teruzuki six times since I got her.

Red panties are so fucking lewd I can't stand it.

>>13969329
Yeah, I underprepared for this event and burnt a lot trying to clear E3 on hard, almost went bankrupt and had to waste all the effort and res by switching to easy.

>>13969346
Aircalc tells me apparently I can hit 139 for AS with a Reppuu 601, Ryusei 601 and 2 Reppuu in that order.

I assume I'll be going through yasen nodes?

>>13969388
If only she was voiced by Ozawa. I can't dig Komatsu voice at all, although it is less gratting than her whiny voice for Kamo.

To anyone who cleared E-7 hard:

How much did you spend on the last dance?

>>13969403
Last dance alone was a bitch. Something like 20K and 80-100 buckets.
Being sent to south or Y after J teared my sanity asunder.

>>13969306

For chipping:
Except for Haruna and Kongou, replace the others.
Use a better CVL and stuff it with reppuu and 1 saiun. Add 3 DDs that you get from world 1-1. Then go yasen route, Hope that Your monkeys aim at boss in night.

>>13969402
Yarareta kamo!

>>13969396
Not sure for other difficulties but for hard I went yasen route only for last dance; chipping was north route. In any case your fleet's for north route; yasen uses a different setup.

>>13969402

If KC devs know how to arrange the voicing placement, they would give Hibiki to Uesaka Sumire long time ago.

I just got abukuma, so I have a question. Are there any maps this event that are good places for leveling her?

>>13969422
Isn't the difference between either just choosing the route from D?

>>13969434
E-1.

>>13969304
Are you chipping with Mutsuki-class or something? Post your fleet.

>>13969434
Grind her on 3-5. You like 1200 exp a pop rite?

>>13969437
Yasen doesn't need 2 DD so you can bring heavier ships.

I'm on my phone now though; will take a while to post details.

>>13969427
Well, I think this one was a good choice, even though Suzaki isn't any good with Russian.
I can't imagine Sumippe being able to voice the desdiv 6 properly.

Sure, Raiden would be within her range, but I don't think she could deliver lady and bep with their appropriate quirks... then again, Sumippe hardly voice that kind of characters so I might be wrong.

Speaking of seiyuu, they should really bring back other guests. It is nice to have seasonal voices for a lot of girls, but it is mostly with their core group like Ayaneru, Suzaki, Fujita, Taneda, Sumippe, Tanibe and Hidaka.

But Seiyuu who did major ships like Aketatsu for Yamato don't even show up except for the naval review event.

>>13969388
You can barely even see her panties.

>>13969440
I assume going through node F yeah?

>>13969464
You're a funny guy. I like you.

>>13969470

Maybe he's using his imagination.

>>13969465
Ah I get it, I'll try with what I've got first.

Is it feasible to chip E-7 hard without hotels?

I'm running low on fuel.

>>13969470

>>13969490
Keep your hotels for last dance.

Kongou are fine for chipping, but beware you might be sent home more often.

>>13969494
>>Kongou are fine for chipping
No they are not

>>13969468
> It is nice to have seasonal voices for a lot of girls, but it is mostly with their core group
>Seiyuu who did major ships like Aketatsu for Yamato don't even show up

I'm still mad, goddammit.

Wait, what the hell? My Suijou just went from J to M in E7

>>13969356
He was talking about Sakawa's event. Nowaki was simply forgotten because her event was easy as fuck and nobody cared about her after gettinggoddesses like Akizuki or Prinz Eugen. Isokaze is ultra sexy and Akitsushima is super cute. Sakawa isn't special in any field.

>>13969494
Big7 or Pastas are better.

>>13969525
>Akitsushima is super cute
Being deaf has its merits, I guess.

>>13969525
>Isokaze is ultra sexy and Akitsushima is super cute.
How does it feel to have shit taste?

>>13969525
>Sakawa isn't special in any field.

She has a lot of love to give.

>>13969542
You tell me.

It's fucking nerve-wracking advancing with the FS of your support fleet on red.

>>13969481
Actually, I should've told you to hold up because you should have used Hiei/Kirishima instead of Kongou/Haruna. It'd have allowed 4 BB 1 CLT 1 CVL or 3 BB 1 CLT 1 CA 1 CV for yasen route; Kongou/Haruna only allows 3 BB and I'm not even sure whether it allows a CLT.

Then again you can use all the monkeys as the 4 BBs so it might not matter anyway.

>>13969468
>Akatsuki
>lady
'no'

>>13969570
Fuck off.

>>13969575
She's no lady and you know it.

>>13969581
I don't fucking care about that, just stop shitposting.

>>13969575
Fuck off with your meme.
>>>/a/

>>13969575
>>13969587
Get triggered

>>13969593
I think you misquoted. I'm not the one trying to force a meme.

>>13969593
To be fair, Akatsuki being a lady is the meme.

>>13969497
I had no trouble to scratch the boss with the Kongou sisters. Combined fleet mechanics make them able to reach the day battle damage cap with their 35.6cm, so I don't see the problem at all.

>>13969535
Pasta are hardly better because they are more brittle and they consumme more than the kongou, for a result that is virtually the same.

Nagamon and Mutsu aren't exactly that better for E7 because they are also nuked to death by wo kai and BB hime.

>>13969517
>Pitting a surface fleet against wos
What.

>>13969603
No, they aren't. Difference in armor is 0-5 while difference in HP is 9-13. Pastas are also less likely to get screwed by takoyaki. Being more durable is precisely the reason why one should consider Pastas instead of Kongous. Nagato and Mutsu are clearly tougher than both but fleet's speed placebo.

>>13969525
But Sakawa is super cute too.

>>13969587
It's past your bedtime now, Akatsuki.

>>13969623

Sakawa is cute, but Agano is cuter while also being soft and having a comfy voice.

>>13969623
All girls are cute but honestly, Sakawa just isn't at Akitsushima's level, even if one likes her more.

>>13969623
I don't like her hairstyle.

>>13969629
>Agano
>comfy voice
wut?

>>13969629
>>13969631
Whynotboth.mex

>>13969629
Agano's voice is so obnoxious.

>>13969622
Hp difference doesn't really that matter because of scratch damage mechanic. Armor is much more important due to how armor roll works.

>>13969639
>.mex
Is that some kind of illegal file extension?javascript:;

I'm preparing my E-7 hard last dance, and I'm getting scared the fuck out
What should I do?

>>13969639
>Whynotboth.mex
Is that some kind of illegal file extension

>>13969661

Sparkle, masturbate to the girls participating in last dance, rinse and repeat.

>>13969663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqgSO8_cRio

Where do I get the most ammo for the next days?
Need some preperation for E7

>>13969567
Well I'm on easy anyways so it's still possible.

Also if I have a girl already tagged, will using them on another map on easy that would be unallowed on Medium or Hard add another tag?

>>13969646
And I'm saying difference in HP is big while difference in armor is small.

Look at Kaga vs Taihou comparisons, it's commonly agreed that Taihou is only a tiny bit sturdier while she has 5 armor more and only 7 HP less. Here the difference is ~2.5 armor and ~11 HP.

http://exhentai.org/g/844715/176a2eecd5/ worth it?

>>13969672
2 and sparkled 5/37 or 5/21

What do you guys upgrade when you're short on screws?

>>13969696
No idea, never seen Akashi before.

>>13969696
AP Shells from +4 to +6. OTO as they only take 2 screws. Quads are a good idea.

I'm not sure about this torpedo CI setup for Myoukou. DA feels more reliable and I haven't really seen the CI do much damage yet.

>>13969696
You could start by maxing out an aa pasta gun for Maya-sama, not sure about the rest.

>>13969714
Are you using skilled lookouts and flagship position?

Is mixed torp (quint+quad) a good set-up?

>>13969683
>easy
Oh well.

>Also if I have a girl already tagged, will using them on another map on easy that would be unallowed on Medium or Hard add another tag?
No.

What do I put in Maya-sama's fourth slot?

>>13969683
No, only the first tag counts they don't get overwritten.

>>13969740
It's still 2 torps, doesn't count as mixed.

>>13969744
Your dick

>>13969744
forgot pic

>>13969729
Yes to both.

>>13969756
Another HA gun or 20.3(3)

>>13969756
Maybe another 25mm?

>>13969757
Buy a time machine and get Prinz Eugen. Or keep trying, there's not much else to do.

>the city of Nagatsuki

>>13969778
Even a 79 luck Shigure can fal cut-in, thats not a smart suggestion.

>>13969808
If you expect the girl to cut-in all the time, it's only your fault.

>>13969808
What about 100 luck Hatsushimo?

Looks like 1 S rank each X/Y is not enough to deal good damage, since I didnt manage to clear Y on second run, Ill report later abot 3 X 2 Y.

>>13969880
>since I didnt manage to clear Y on second run
How is that supposed to be a proof?

Whoa, only used boss support and beaver entered the node on red.

>>13969908
>only used route support
Fixed. I'm only using boss support for last dance.

>>13969908
>Planning to let Beaver die
M'anon

>>13969930
Of course I had a damecon on her.

>>13969908
>S rank
>bar barely chipped
This map seems terrifying.

So killing X and Y twice each is good enough right?

8 full kills takes a long ass fucking time with combined fleets.

>>13970006
Especially when you can only scratch the boss most of the time.

>doing this event without Akiduki
>doing this event without Eugen
>doing this event without Bisko4
You're fucked, plebs

>>13970032
Where's Akizuki needed?

>>13969756
FCF

>>13970054
Everywhere you find Wo. Are you about to pretend that Maya is good for anything?

>>13970060
I'm going for the last kill, though.

>>13970061
Maya is awesome. I don't know what you're talking about.

Besides, Fubuki does Akizuki's job just as well.

>>13970054
E3, E6, E7. Just like Bisko and Prinz.
It's fucking retarded that locked-to-LSC-Bisko is so important this event. It could have been fixed so easily with allowing 3CA(V) in escort fleet.

>>13970061
I love this meme.

>>13970068
>>13969761

Weak anal bait is not a must, Akizuki is, Bismarck is really good but not sure if a must.

>can't get past preboss at E-6 without node support
>have absolutely no chance of killing the boss without boss support
>only have enough half-decent ships and equipment for one support expedition
Fuck me.

>>13970070
>Fubuki does Akizuki's job just as well
>>Fubuki
>>AA 78
>>Akizuki
>>AA 116
Uh, okay.

Maya has to use a gimped useless setup in order to get a decent AACI that makes her useless in both the day and the night battle as well as just generally being shit at stuff. Akizuki fills one of your required DD slots and kicks ass. Maya wastes a slot that could hold something that actually contributes to the fleet.

>>13970084
Bismarck is a fucking must because you can't use CLTs this time, can only use 2CAs and other BBs are terrible in yasen. Everyone without Bisko has to run 3DDs in escort. DD is useless in shelling, gets taiha'd easily and deals less damage than Bisko in yasen.
Prinz is the best ship you can use this event thanks to her luck.
Abukuma would be the fourth must-have kanmusu.

What's a good map for resource nodes while leveling non-subs at the same time?

>>13970070
>Besides, Fubuki does Akizuki's job just as well.
You're fucking retarded. Go read up on AACI mechnics before posting next time.

>>13970099
AACI Maya isn't bad in yasen.

>>13969908
This time Abukuma did 180 cut-in damage.

I should have given a ring to all of my useful ships, all those wasted xp made me regret it.

>>13970124
You using carrier fleet nigga?

>>13970124
And a ghost dropped

>>13970107
>Prinz is the best ship you can use this event thanks to her luck.
Until you give luck to someone else stronger than her.

>>13970127
Yes, 1CVL 2BB 3 CV

>>13970130
Congrats.

>>13970131
Or even Myoukou with a skilled lookout.

>>13970131
Such situations are obviously excluded, use common sense.

>>13970143
Yeah but you can't use two Myoukous in your escort fleet.

>>13970131
How many Maruyu do you think non NEETs can get? A realistic ballpark estimate if you would.

I have 7.

>>13970144
That is their fault for relying on torpedo sluts.

>>13970155
This game is for NEETs, you have no say if you are not.

Best run ever,
Chikuma AACI was so strong that the Aircraft Carrier Princess couldn't attack

>>13970107
Id say Abukuma is a must now, shame that I didnt bother leveling her, she's cute. Im glad they forced dead ends with potato sluts, its showing who are the true ttks here.
Luck is not an excuse, if people have time to shitpost about a memedal, they have time to farm Maruyus.

>>13970160
Is that why even easy mode is for hardcore NEET hoarding faggots?

Only Yahagi and Umikaze left that haven't dropped on E-4 farming. I'm kind of enjoying the idea that Yahagi would drop first.

Are there any doujins with TTK scrapping Taitei-chan in front of Akitsushima?

>>13970172

Would Akitsushima be given the dick while it's happening?

>>13970172
Most of kamo doujins are stuff like that, hating her for being useless, etc.

>>13970160
No, you fucking retard. Maruyus are hard to get and you can't expect everyone to use them only on CA. If you had the tiniest bit of common sense you would know that what you said has no place in discussion about girls in general. You can save your anecdotal evidence for private conversations as you clearly are unable to discuss stuff in public properly.

>>13970165
>Luck is not an excuse, if people have time to shitpost about a memedal, they have time to farm Maruyus.
Everyone without complete dex won't be spamming minLSC. Even with complete dex, a lot of people prefer doing ranking or leveling up their girls.
When talking about who's better you are supposed to consider the most likely scenario.

>>13970155
I only got 11 Maruyus in my last 50 min LSC.

new thread boatbros

>>13970209
>>13970209
>>13970209

>>13970193
Using Maruyu on anyone but CAs is fucking retarded. They are always the most needed in events and are more reliable than CLT. Your resources should always be going to LSC and if you cannot get a huge amount of resources for daily LSC and Maruyu leveling, you're pretty bad.

>>13970205
Yeah, for the tiny cost of 75,000 fuel and ammo, 100,000 steel and 50,000 bauxite. Most people have used less than that on this event.

Damn, Poi's pretty sexy

>>13970226
Pedo.

>>13970226
Yeah but seeing that sprite every sortie gets annoying quick.

>>13970193
Well, to keep it civil and and clean, we could say most people priorities are kinda warped.

>>13970219
>They are always the most needed in events
Oh shit. That's some top tier delusion. Stop acting smart because you clearly don't know shit. I bet you think artillery spotting has been in the game since the beginning?
Nigga, I love CAs more than any other class and use them instead of BBs whenever possible (even 5-5) but what you are saying is simply stupid.

>are more reliable than CLT
By not clearing trash and being much weaker in yasen?

>Your resources should always be going to LSC
Oh fuck, I can't take this anymore, I'm laughing too hard.

>>13970124
What the hell? Are you using Hotels man?

>>13970246
Luck boosting is too long of a process to even consider it in serious discussion about which girl is stronger. Especially since the sentiment of "boosting one's wife's luck" is so common among admirals. Luck boosting is only valid part of discussion when you're theorizing about possibilities.

>>13970261
Of course.

>>13970160
>you have no say if you are not.
I'll let you in on a secret - the vast majority of people who play this game are not, in fact, NEET.

And even if they were NEETs someone who has nothing better to do than dedicate half his whole life to playing a shitty grinding game is one sad fucker.

>>13970266
Your first mistake was assuming you were in a serious discussion instead of abstract wankery.

>>13970266
>Luck boosting is too long of a process
Nope. 8~10 weeks to hit 59 from 12. And you still get enough leftovers to hit top 500 every month using actual fleet.

>>13970252
Well, this event clearly proved you wrong. If you are a NEET, you should have leveled all your girls by now, so resource gathering should not be a problem at all. EOs come by once a month, so all loses are gained back in 5 days max. Unless you rank, resources should be going to Maruyu building.

>>13970281
>Your first mistake was assuming you were in a serious discussion instead of abstract wankery.
I guess you're right.

>>13970293
Yeah, sure, because everyone has to play the game the same exact way as you do. Fuck off.

>>13970293
>Nope. 8~10 weeks to hit 59 from 12
Per boat. Sounds fun when you spend an entire year leveling the luck of 5 ships then find them all useless in the events that you don't have the resources to do anyway.

>>13970297
>Well, this event clearly proved you wrong.
What?
What part of my post was proven wrong by this event?

>>13970266
I did that, but most people are actually mad that some admirals are more "efficient" than others, look at this salt >>13970298

Fucking Tanaka and his damn subs.

>>13969688
2rough4me
I loved this one, though: http://exhentai.org/g/822759/ff2ed287ec/
Hetero Ooi is a miracle. Give me back her old lines, Tanaka!

>>13970319
>Prinz
>E4

What the fuck are you doing?

>>13970312
>but most people are actually mad that some admirals are more "efficient" than others
No, you don't understand at all.
Read these parts again:
>If you had the tiniest bit of common sense you would know that what you said has no place in discussion about girls in general. You can save your anecdotal evidence for private conversations as you clearly are unable to discuss stuff in public properly.
>When talking about who's better you are supposed to consider the most likely scenario.
The only thing I'm mad about is them spouting irrelevant stuff. I couldn't care less what one specific guy does when I'm talking about overall strength of girls.

>salt
Please take this vocabulary elsewhere.