/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I bought a Chachamaru/Kanae keystrap for 1500 yen directly from the Nitro+ booth, but I still don't know whether I should feel I got a good deal or grossly overpaid.

Albatross Koukairoku, just in the beginning but this guy is completely hilarious as a MC, such a hedonistic bastard.

I haven't been able to get into a VN for a couple months, there been any really funny ones recently?

>>13968165
I'm waiting for schwartzesmarken myself.

>>13968090
Bout time we had a decent VN in the OP.

>>13968160
Horizontal text? What are you, some kind of faggot?

>>13968293
I like being able to see the sprites, sue me.

>>13968293
I think using gothic is the bigger issue here.

>>13968391
>Not using gothic

That shit's pretty.

>>13968391
I don't think gothic is especially good or bad, so I don't see how it would be an issue.

>>13968545
It's like reading a novel where all the text is helvetica or comic sans.

>>13968557
>If it's not all in times new roman my autism flares up and I can't read it!

>>13968557
So you're saying it's personal preference?

>>13968568
I'm saying that his personal preference is objectively wrong and he should probably just kill himself rather than pollute the board with his screenshots.

>>13968574
Just leave now

>>13968391
MS Gothic is industry standard for VNs, stop with your nonsense.

>>13968160
This doesn't seem any more 'difficult' than the average VN. Why do people freak out about it?

>>13968673
Mareni gets pretty verbose and flowery at times, but it's exaggerated because memes.

>>13968673
Memes

>>13968673
Mareni's fun.

Finished Chaos;Child's Over Sky ending. I first thought I had somehow fucked up, skipped routes and stumbled into true route by accident or something due to the major plot revelations like explaining Serika's "game" and that they were going to skip explaining some stuff like in Chaos;Head's A ending. I'm really glad the ride isn't over yet.

>>13969228
The ride only began
Here's a pro tip
Leave nono's route for last
I'd say do arimura's route after kazuki's

Order is really up to you but I think you'll enjoy the game better this way.

>another mememasa op
>memetross in the first 10 posts

Saged

Just finished her route, and to be honest I'm pretty surprised how bad was that route, even though her past was quite interesting. Hell most likely this was one of worst route I have ever played, I'm definitely sure that writer got bored at the half of the route and just decided to end without any kind of events, romance with mc, or some other shits. Even the reason of h-scenes were dumbest shit I have ever seen.

As for entire game; I really laughed a lot, it has an awesome humor for sure and almost every heroine's personality is unique & well done. Both of Erika & Inaho's routes were great while Chitose is kinda okayish. I didnt play Rukina yet, but so far its a really enjoyable ride except Suu's route. Luckily it was only 2-3 hours long so I can act like it didn't exist at all.

>>13968705
>>13968711
Who would put themselves through this

>>13972450
It's basically just reading a normal book, you know.

>>13972450
People who actually know Japanese and don't use machine translations.

>>13972460
Normal books don't have sentences that run for a full page.

>>13972472
If Mareni wrote them they would.

>>13972475
Seems like a shitty writer then.

>>13972475
So then I go back to my question, why would anyone put themselves through something hes written

>>13972480
Sounds like you're too attached to the arbitrary restrictions of the English language and have no sense of Japanese writing conventions. What I'm saying is, fuck off EOP.

>>13972487
Or maybe I just prefer writers who don't wordvomit all over the place with verbose bullshit.

>>13972480
Y'know, there are some English writers who aren't bound by the conventions of the language.

>>13972484
Well anon, when one is fluent/literate in a language, reading in that language isn't exactly a difficult task so to speak.
>>13972493
How do you know Mareni's writing is verbose bullshit if you haven't read it?

>>13972495
Let me guess, you have a hard-on for James Joyce.

>>13972516
No, I don't. I don't like the long verbose nonsense either. I'm just saying there are authors like Mareni in English literature.

>>13972532
And they're equally as worthless.

>>13972547
>equally as
I don't think you're really in a position to be judging writing quality.

>>13972557
Do you not know english?

>>13972562
Better than you, evidently.

黙りなさい、阿呆どもめ

>>13968711
The last two lines of that made the hottest of heads.

>>13972506
>when one is fluent/literate in a language, reading in that language isn't exactly a difficult task so to speak.
Not really. No. When something is hard to read, it's hard to read even if it's your own native language.

>>13972771
I believe shitposter-kun has left, finally.

>>13972771
Easy to read, hard to understand. I can read Shakespeare extremely easily, but understanding in all its complexity is far more difficult. I am not fluent enough to comment on Mareni's writing but I imagine it follows the same principle.

Just finished the Sunao route in Tsuyokiss it was so good really made me feel all nice and warm and fuzzy. I'm not really sure where to go from here if it's even worth to go through the other routes in this game or if I should try to find another vn to try.

>>13972873
shakespeare isn't even particularly hard once you're used to the antiquated language

How is anybody supposed to understand the sanskrit at the end of KKK?

>>13972460
ごもっともといえばその通りだろうけど
人を選ぶ作も普通といえば普通に存在するにして万人向けではない作やスタイルもあるだろうに

5分を読んで持たずと時を忘れて本編に流れてしまう人
そう分けて作られている作のことでしょうけど、程度の低い奴がこれを理解できるとそもそも期待してはいけないだろう

>>13972873
Well yeah if you consider just ignoring the fact that you don't understand a ton of words, and that some sentences are too complicated for you to get, then I suppose you can "read" anything. But it is certainly possible to make things arbitrarily difficult to read in one's native language.

>>13973616
That's not what I meant at all.

>>13973623
Have you actually tried to read difficult works in English? It sounds like you haven't then, if you think being a native speaker means you have no problems with vocabulary or grammar and only have problems with themes and symbolism.

>>13973632
What difficult works are you thinking of? Excluding James Joyce.

>>13973641
Personally I think the grammar of Shakespeare is not as easy for natives as you seem to think, although I'm sure you would get used to it if you read through a couple plays. We study that shit in high school and need to be told what lines mean fairly frequently.

For a modern example try Book of the New Sun. Mainly difficult vocabulary-wise.

Difficulty also doesn't necessarily mean a native can't understand it. If a work has more complex sentences, then people will need to reread sentences more often to know what's going on. It will increase the frequency at which you read through a sentence "fluently" but then realize you have no idea what it actually said.

>>13973656
>It is possible I already had some presentiment of my future. The locked and rusted gate that stood before us, with wisps of river fog threading its spikes like the mountain paths, remains in my mind now as the symbol of my exile. That is why I have begun this account of it with the aftermath of our swim, in which I, the torturer's apprentice Severian, had so nearly drowned. "The guard has gone." Thus my friend Roche spoke to Drotte, who had already seen it for himself. Doubtfully, the boy Eata suggested that we go around. A lift of his thin, freckled arm indicated the thousands of paces of wall stretching across the slum and sweeping up the hill until at last they met the high curtain wall of the Citadel. It was a walk I would take, much later.
Color me unimpressed

>>13973676
I said it has difficult vocabulary. It's still modern English. Try reading more than a paragraph.

>>13973688
I read the whole excerpt, and it didn't have especially difficult vocabulary. I've read tons of books like "Malazan Book of the Fallen" so fantasy-esque genre are my strong point.

I don't want this to be a dick-waving contest, so I'm just gonna stop arguing about the semantics of "easy to read" or whatever. I don't think a lot is being accomplished here.

>>13973410
Word.

>>13973712
I'm not trying to argue about whether that excerpt is easy to read, I'm telling you not to pretend that finding no rare words in the first page doesn't mean there aren't rare words throughout the book. He uses a decent amount of words most native speakers wouldn't know, and a decent amount of words that are completely made up, and enough of both that you don't know which are which.

>>13973712
And I did a quick scan through a few pages and found
>renascent
>baculus
>mews
>aureate
>gamboge
>cerise
>chiliarch
>popul vuh
>carnifex
>impugning
>caloyer

Some may be made up, If you know them all you're a much better English speaker than I.

>>13973807
The fuck am I reading

>>13973818
English chuunishit

>>13973807
Honestly, I'm not, I won't deny that I didn't know any of those words. At the same time, that has kind of shifted away from my original post (which wasn't about vocabulary levels), so... neat.

>>13973828
Then I think I'll stick to my nip chuunishit

>>13973807
>popul vuh
I got this one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgT_YSy4Xwk
Great album btw

>>13973831
> At the same time, that has kind of shifted away from my original post (which wasn't about vocabulary levels), so... neat.

Well, you did kind of make the choice to focus on my example of something that is difficult vocabularywise rather than responding to the more relevant discussion I made in >>13973656

>>13973846
Mainly because it kind of drifted away from the point. Original anon mentioned how he wondered why anyone would subject themselves to it, and my post was basically just saying "to a native reading it be as easy/simple as a normal book". Everything past that is just a slip and slide of things outside of what I originally wanted to convey.

>>13973858
And I'm saying that normal books can vary greatly in difficulty even for native speakers, and being "as easy/simple" as a very difficult normal book is somewhat misleading.

If you just mean to say that the same type of people who are into James Joyce in English wouldn't mind Mareni in Japanese. then okay sure.

>>13973656
Yeah, Shakespeare and older stuff (Milton, etc.) is that they use older meanings of words that aren't modern usage anymore, and make allusions to all sorts of crap that used to be required reading. Like, who reads The Faerie Queene anymore?

Holy shit for fucks sake we understand.

Look, let me tell blow your mind right.

Even native nips themselves have their own taste, and that type of writing isn't for everyone.

Yeah "it's just like a book". But that doesn't mean that book or that style is for you, or suitable to your taste.

Believe it or not, there are nips who do not like that style, and people who absolutely love it, and both are perfectly okay inside their own taste.

God, I fucking swear if rounin hadn't expired I wouldn't be wasting time in this thread. Fuck this.

>>13973882
>okay

>>13973882
Somebody needs to make a better alternative.

>>13972472
Many novels in Japanese language do, actually. They have different writing conventions from us.

>>13973641
You can also try Cormac McCarthy.

>>13974035
Alright man nobody cares.

Talk about whatever VN you're playing or go away

>>13974035
>Many novels in Japanese language do, actually.
No, "many" do not.

/jp/ - international literature

>>13974082
？

>Choosing between playing a VN on a TV or a tablet

Seriously am I silly for wanting to play a 720p game on a 1080p tv while in bed, and not on a 720p tablet.

>>13974101
I connected my wacom wirelessly to my PC and played a VN connected to my tv using it as a mouse

pretty comfy

lol @ this thread going off the rails over mareni

post less and study/read/speak more boys

otherwise just play the dime a dozen galges with easy dialogue for baby

>>13974115
I hope your Japanese is better than your English.

>>13974120
ちょっぴりね

>>13974115
>>13974125

かまってちゃんかっこ良杉
しょうもないやつに構うところまで（ｷﾘｯ

>>13974139
yeah and you can suck my butt hole lol（ｷﾘｯ

>>13974154
かまってちゃん煽りかた下手すぎてﾜﾛﾀ
むなしい

>>13974167
君の負けだ、女に不自由
最初から

日本語どころか英語すらロクに出来ないやつが混ざるから困る

>>13974190
/a/にすっこんでろと言いたいね
安価だけしなくてもおｋ

クソスレｔｂｈ

死にたいｔｂｈ

>>13968090
Would i be able to understand the plot of Mememasa if i would use MT? I dont care about prose.

>>13974567
MT?

http://www.caramel-box.com/products/last_cavalier/charactor.html
Some info on that new shinsengumi game.
Protag is trap working for shinsengumi, and sakamoto ryoma is main heroine. Worth reading at least for sheer absurdity of setting, I guess.

http://www.minatosoft.com/koya/

Website for that Minatosoft game with Tanaka Romeo is up after like, what, 2 years since we last heard about it?
Or at least the splash page with a countdown for real info.

Romeo's been pretty busy lately, huh.

>>13974643
I hope it's actually by Romeo and not in the way that anekouji was by Jackson.

>>13974649
Hopefully he sticks to direction only, yes.

>>13974649
It's not like it would be much worse if it isn't though.

>>13974653
And by that I mean Takahiro sticking to direction.

>>13974656
AneGin was one of most boring VNs I've read.

>>13974656
It would, especially with Takahiro lately.

Rina Satou's voice is too sexy.

Finally finished Muramasa.
I was worried about the pacing because of the text size but I'm pleased that I could get through it without feeling it was dragging on.

There was always something happening and almost never without a reason.

I also didn't mind the info dumps and the detailed fight scenes.

Overall very pleased.
Hopefully Tokyo Necro won't disappoint. From the OP it looks pretty unpromising though. This looks pretty bad too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8M3p1_SjcI

>>13975227
>Tokyo Necro
>Shimokura
>won't disappoint
Read Hello, World lad.

>>13975290
I've read Hello World.
What do you mean? I thought Vio didn't have anything to do with it.

Or did you just mean "Read something that isn't by Shimokura"?

>>13975774
I think he means the latter. Nitroplus isn't going to put out anything good ever again as long as Shimokura is around.

Does anyone know if dlsite accepts foreign credit cards? I want to buy その光その翼 to support the creators but last time I tried to use my credit card it didn't work. Alternatively, is there a place I can download it from? Or if someone could upload it, I'd be very glad.

>>13976413
It works for me.

>>13976413
It should. The site has an english version so I don't see why they wouldn't.

>>13976477
>>13976459
>申し訳ございません。
>このカードはお支払いに利用できません。他のカードをご利用下さい。
Well shit. I just want to give my money to them.

>>13975795
He's not THAT bad.
Well, I mean, I liked Sumaga. And Gekkou was decent I guess...

Muramasa is my sole motivation in learning japanese but does it require a high level of understanding ?

>>13976582
Nah man, it's about as easy to read as your typical school moege. It's a breeze. Only took me less than a year of study before I could play it. And I didn't even use a texthooker

>>13976582
It's far from simple. Also, it's going to disappoint you, but whatever is going to keep you motivated.

Do you need to read the side stories in Dies Irae or can I just skip them?

>>13976649
Yous should.

>>13976582
It's kind of hard.
But it's worth it.

>>13976538

Sometimes you just have to try a couple times and make sure your bank's not blocking it.

Anyone know of a working torrent for Himegari Dungeon Meister? I found this torrent that's barely seeded:
https://sukebei.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=60892
but it looks like the torrent is in some weird format and can't be loaded.

>>13976804
https://sukebei.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=255930 Use this and pick Himegari only

>>13976784
It worked in the third time. Thanks.

>>13976815
Ah, thanks. Didn't think there would be anything like that.

I know I'm like 3 months late but I just found out about this.
http://seiiki.jp/imouto/castowabi.html
tldr :she's not doing eroge anymore.

Is she really sick or it's because lovelive fans being autistic about her voicing eroge? I see her jumping around while singing on youtube , moaning for few minutes should take less energy than that.

>>13977275
She probably got too popular for her own good
I mean she is the main heroine of Love Live

>>13977275
She will be back in a few years anyway.

>>13977275
Idolfags really are the worst.

>>13977275
She just probably decided to abandon eroge. Which is fine since it's popular, but it's shitty that she did it in the middle of a recording. Imouto no Seiiki had to be postponed since they had to re-record the lines with the new VA.

>>13977343
>Which is fine since it's popular
I mean "since she's popular now".
I should proofread my posts.

>>13977275
I remember this being posted a while ago, got curious and immediately searched up her twitter and blog or whatever and there wasn't any news about it, I could only find it from the feng twitter. So I came to the conclusion she didn't want to voice eroge anymore.

>>13977275
Yeah, back when I first read about it I think I was the one who posted it on the thread here.

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but the last big work of the original School Idol Project was the movie, right? I don't know much about Love Live myself since I never really bought into the idol boom, but that's what it seemed like. And that new talent is supposed to be coming up with Sunshine.

Assuming that, while I guess it's okay for her to leave eroge anyways since she's probably making a lot out of royalties already with LL, she really isn't having much of a taxing workload with LL either. It was still a dick move of her to leave feng up in the air like that, though. I'm sure it will hurt sales of Imouto from the rabid potential Loveliver buyfags.

>>13977436
The mobage is incredibly popular, Love Live is going to stay in one form or another

>>13977702
Yeah but it's not like she needs to record a lot of lines or more songs for Honoka, or does she? Love Live might be alive and I'm not denying that (Sunshine will start after all), but as for actual work for the Honoka character, that might be phased out.

Why do you guys read moege when nukige are better in every way?

>>13978239
Apples and oranges. Moege focuses on slice of life and ichaicha. Also, 9 out of 10 nukige are cheap shovelware anway.

>>13977343
I can't read that as anything but Imouto no Seieki, no matter how many times I see it.

>>13978762
You're not alone.

>>13978762
Wow, me too!

Regarding Nitta Emi isn't she supposed to voice the imouto from Hanahime Absolute? Is she resigning from that as well? I don't want it to get delayed.

[はとのす式製作所] ボクはともだち。 ～I am not sweetheart.～ [Comiket 88]

Not sure what to expect to expect.

>>13979821
Alright, I visited the site. Picked up.

>>13979832
> ntr your friends fuck yea
Nope:
>ジャンル
>“友達”が反旗を翻す(?)学園ラブコメノベルゲーム
>※)寝取り要素はありません

>>13980463
Whats even the point of it then

>>13980706
Read it and find out!

I finished Maou to Odore 2. The gameplay was more or less what you'd expect from an eroge, albeit much slower than it needed to be, which detracted from the overall experience. The music and visuals were okay (especially the ero-CG), and the story was well-paced, with the exception of the flashback, which took way too long IMO. The H-scenes themselves left a bad aftertaste, though, in the form of almost instant mindbreak.
There's plenty of rape scenes, and overall zero impact. I mean, even when the main heroine's mother gets raped there's no tension or drama at all, just "iguuuuu". It's almost like a comedy, except nobody's laughing, and it completely ruins the immersion.

The OP by Haruka Shimotsuki is a plus, though.

Does anyone have a nodvd of nijuuei?

>>13981000
I remember playing that few years ago. It was fun, but weaker than the original or Arcana in my opinion, to the point where I felt like playing anything but the main heroine's route was waste of time.
The combat is pretty easy in that series and if I'm not mistaken you can just skip a lot of random encounters in the third one.

>>13981067
I can't say I was terribly interested in any of the heroines, except Crin because I like lolis, especially vampiric ones.
You can skip all the random encounters in NG+ of 2, which along with keeping your levels makes for an easy second playthrough.

I'll play Arcana someday, too.

>>13981198
Maou to Odore 2 plays a lot more directly to Arcana than the first one does to its sequel and deals with a lot of stuff from it so I'd recommend playing it while you still have the 2nd game in fresh memory.

>>13981259
I sort of figured out some basic things about 1's plot thanks to the maou, but I guess I'll do that. Is Arcana related to that ominous winged figure approaching the World pendant after the credits of 2?

>>13981323
It's been years since I played it so I can't remember the exact scene, but that sounds about right.
The protagonist of Arcana is descendant of the protagonist and main heroine of MtO 2 and it's continuation of the same story while MtO and MtO2 more or less just took place in the same setting with some plot threads of 1 continuing to 2.

>>13981012
You don't really need one. Just keep the ISO of CD 2 mounted in Daemon Tools and you can run it.

Also use both patches KeroQ offers for the game (fix_text_2.exe and Nijyuei_101.exe) and then be sure to use _inmm.dll to get properly looped BGM.

It's also worth noting the game has voiced console versions and the PS1 one isn't hard to find on the net.

>>13981000
That UI looks like it came right out of a late 90's computer RPG. Pretty disgusting to look at for a game released in 2009.

>>13981430
Oh, so the console version is more worthy? I'll go with it, then, thanks.

>>13981430
I have the DC version if anyone wants it but it's a scene release that probably has reencoded audio like all DC rips back in the day.

>>13981536
Well, I dunno about DC, but the PS1 has lower resolution and looks worse as a result. So that's a trade-off to consider.

>>13981395
I see. I've been wanting to play Arcana for a while, I guess I'll prioritize it.

>>13981516
There's far worse things around.

How was Maboroshi no Destopia?

>>13981863
I posted my impressions of the game a couple threads back. Looking back I might have been a little bit too harsh, but overall it was pretty disappointing.

Unlikeable protagonist, underutilized setting, and a pretty disappointing plot that ended with an awful Deus ex Machina. Mind you I only read Youko's route, since she seemed like the main heroine, so maybe the other routes are better. I seriously doubt it though.

>>13980463
Well that was misleading.

>>13982249
Look at this poor victim of netori at the hands of the evil MC.

>>13982283
Picked up anyways.

>>13982311
The game is pretty fun, Nanami's interactions with the MC can be hilarious, her retort to him talking to himself was spoiling sharin no kuni out of the blue.

>>13981579
I am interested in it.

>>13981890
Thanks for the summary. I think I'll pass.

What service do you guys use to buy?

>ゲームが正常にインストールされていません。 再度インストールを行ってください

Well, that's a new one. Until now no DL version game cared if it was "properly installed".

>>13982884
Usually a registry key of some sort created upon launcher initialization or something. I don't think it's an uncommon practice, although indeed DL versions usually don't do it.

>>13982283
That reminded me of this, for a few reasons.

Should I play Berry's or Amagami?

>>13983273
Follow your heart bro

>>13983308
I've played a bit of it but I really wish there was a tsundere hottie to go after its why I'm kinda conflicted

>>13983380
Go after tsukasa then, that's the closest you'll get.

>>13983449
I was going after her I said I liked her more in that one scene when it asked me who I liked more but Kaoru is listed as tsundere under vndb so I thought I made the wrong choice and was trying to change it around.

Anyone know where I could download Saiminjutsu 2?

All the links I've found are dead.

Bump

bump

i just tried to jump from kamimaho to hello lady and it was a failure. Can anyone recommend something good but in between those two in terms of difficulty?

I want to play a 720p vn while on bed

should I just use my TV and upscale the game to 1080p, or play it on a tablet on native 720p?

Help me /jp/

>>13985206
No pussy

>>13986019
No pussy?

>>13986031
NO PUSSY

As in, "don't be a pussy"

>>13986057
I don't get it

>>13986057
>having difficulty reading is being a pussy

There's still no date for Sen no Hatou?

Is all of masada's stuff considered difficult to read, or just dies?

>>13986141
If I'm remembering correctly they have said that it will be released at early 2016, so most likely march-april.

>>13986144
Honestly I don't consider anything he has written difficult but that's just me
Senshinkan is a good introduction to his style I guess, the prologue alone should be a good indication if you can go through his games or not

Does the Venus Blood series have continuity between titles, or can they be read separately?
If the latter is true, is the original worth reading?

>>13986405
There is no continuity, the original Venus Blood is just a nukige without gameplay.
Just play Hypno, it's the latest and best game in the series

What does it mean? Are they confirming that Maro is their swansong?

>>13986438
I see, thanks. Does that mean I should skip Chimera and Desire too?

>>13986144
Dies Irae isn't difficult unless it's like your first chuuni VN ever.

>>13986620
I wouldn't go as far as to say that.

>>13986508
Anybody have all the banners? It was really amusing.

>>13970121
Thanks. I ended up going Uki > Hana > Hinae > Nono. If I had to say I personally would have preferred doing Hinae's route before Hana's. The little revelation at the end of the Hinae's route about Hana being a Gigalomaniac isn't that big of a spoiler since it's revealed right at the beginning of Hana's route and in my opinion it would serve as a good "what the fuck is going on" moment if you haven't done Hana's route yet. Leaving Nono's route for last was a good call though. Easily the best overall heroine so far and I guess her route will tie better into true route due to Serika playing a bigger part compared to other heroine routes, though Hana's finale was the most awesome.

I had my suspicions about the game first, but so far I've been enjoying this a lot more than Chaos;Head.

How long is the true route? I'm assuming it's going to be longer than the pretty short heroine routes, but how is it in comparison to the long as fuck common route? I'm going to be pretty busy starting tomorrow and I'm wondering whether the route is going to be something that can be marathoned easily or if I should postpone it until weekend.

>>13986514
The VB games have 2 sort of gameplay, for the traditional TRPG style Hypno is the best in every ways, there is really no reason to play the others
But VB Gaia and Frontier have a different kind of gameplay more similar to Dungeon Keeper, if you are interested Gaia has the better story and cast of the two but Frontier's gameplay is a bit more refined

>>13986514
Empire onwards is usually the recommended ones, depending on how many you want to play. If you want more porn then the older ones or see the series roots.

>>13987178
You got games mixed up, Its Abyss and Gaia that are dungeon games, and Gaia is the more refined Abyss.

>>13986508
Summer is almost over. I'm glad they're still giving life signs, though. Even when they're that cryptic.

>>13986508
ITS OVER

>>13986508
A shame they ended on a bad note. Their NTR games were pretty good.

Are there any games you guys liked but EGS shat on them?

>>13988100
Not really "shat" but there are many underrated games. For example らぶおぶ恋愛皇帝of Love, its definitely better than most of moeges, has top class humor, great heroines and really hot h-scenes but got something like 70-72 from EGS. I'm not saying its awesome, but it should be above of games like primal x hearts or Hanasaki IMO.

Also they are acting too harsh against all ages games, I'd like to see h-scenes too but what the fuck is "The game was good but I'll give 60 because there wasn't any h-scenes" logic.

I really liked Hatsuyuki sakura, the writing was nice but its like they got somebody incompotent to write the final scene it feels like there is dialog or text missing (the fight scenes at the end are basically a single slash on screen and no description of fight its like they stood still to take the hit) and it jusst seems they put whatever they want into it, what happened? It had an amazing atmosphere.

>>13988100
I don't like shitty games, so no.

>>13988143
The game has caught my interest but
> She proclaimed her love for her childhood friend Akito in front of the whole school, and now many other girls are after him as well!?
How much of this is love-triangle bullshit? I rarely like games that involve tons of drama about picking one girl over another.

>>13988247
I'm also interested in the answer to this, but for the opposite reason.

>>13988247
>>13988265
It doesn't have any kind of drama about love triangle, and only two girls are after MC. One of them is the childhood friend who burned down his house and make him go same orphanage with her , and the other one is A kind of antisocial is in love with mc for 8-9 years

It has some little dramas at heroine routes but they are not about love triangle at all.

>>13988215
Well EGS isn't always right you know

>>13986168
>will be released at early 2016, so most likely march-april
That's way too late, I want to read it already

>>13988502
They often overhype stuff, but they're mostly spot on when it comes to kusoge.

It's hard to play eroge with roommate yelling and screaming on Xbox Live. I'm seriously considering buying a tablet.

>>13988667
I've often found myself playing games that they gave passable/decent grades but deserved more.

>>13988714
Why are you living with other people in the first place?

>>13988722
Less rent == move saved money == less time as a wage slave

>>13988714
Buy noise isolating headphones?

I just finished reading White Album 2,
am I the only one who thinks Setsuna is very manipulative under the guise of being a good girl? I didn't like how especially she asks Haruki out knowing he wouldn't refuse, or the kiss that kazusa saw.

>>13988143
>>13988298
Interest piqued, thanks.

>>13988298
All I remember was some dumb drama during blonde's route, or maybe that was during her ending. Can't even remember her name anymore.

>>13989040

>am I the only one who thinks Setsuna is very manipulative under the guise of being a good girl?

You are not alone - this was played out very deliberately in IC, she had dialogues where she spoke of being afraid of being left out after genuinely had fun with haruki/kazusa. Basically by the end she was playing with fire. The similar line of thought was also again outright spoken when Setsuna reminisced about the early years in university.

PS: Mari is best girl.

>>13989040
All's fair in love and war.
The final decision was ultimately still left to Haruki.
I found her annoying in other aspects though.
Didn't really like either of the main heroines all that much.

>>13988714
I don't get it, how will a tablet stop your boyfriend from screaming

>>13990530
I really hated Chiaki. How the hell could Haruki even trust her after all her bullshit?

Seeing an update date for a maker here, just to confirm, Japan uses Year/Month/Day style for western dates, yeah?

>>13992063
I'm not sure what you mean by western dates, but yes, they do use year/month/day format.

So any other games with romantic tsundere heroine routes that are actually nice and fleshed out? I got parfait and berry's but I wanna see if there's any more that interest me more before I start to get into one.

>>13992263
Kamikaze explorers has a couple (Saori and Mishio) and sakigake generation has Ouka, all best girls in their respective games, but with a ton of dere and little tsun.
If you find other tsunderes in them, they aren't worth it.

I've started to read Demonbane
>my ending theme is playing
>cue blaze up from Hello world
I appreciate things like this.

>>13992274

Nice ty for the recommendations I checked some of them out and Saori looked pretty cute. It's a shame that the latest fad has been stapling those disgusting tumours onto every single tsundere girl's chest lately I thought the thing was beautiful flat chest tsuns but every game I look up they always have cow tits it's so depressing.

>>13992311
You could always go for a game featuring younger girls.

>>13992362
Like how young? I wouldn't say I really care either way if the art is good.

Finished Chaos;Child's true ending. I understand that they were going for an ending that was supposed to make the player cry like a bitch instead of some grand finale, but for me the short true route was a bit disappointing when compared to common, Hana and Nono's routes. The main twist and its pretty convenient solution wasn't that awesome and the route left me with a lukewarm impression.

Overall the game was a pretty good experience. Decent production values, more interesting story than Chaos;Head's and some really great BGM tracks. The game could really have used a chapter select and an easier way to navigate into heroine routes, maybe something akin Owaru Sekai to Birthday since the chapter and route structures are pretty similar. Most of the twists weren't that mind-blowing and I feel the writer fucked up some of the surprises by showing too much from other characters' point of view. F.ex. from the very beginning you see how the victims are killed, or to be more precise how they experienced their own deaths so the killer using mind control comes with zero surprise when the main characters finally realize it. There were quite many of that kind of surprise spoiling parts.

>>13992384
>pretty good experience
From the way EGS was reacting I imagined some kind of Steins;gate 2.0 in terms of quality.

>>13992281
One of my favorite little touches in that is Doctor West saying the wrong game title in the sound test.

>>13992311
Anybody with taste should be able to appreciate both small and large breasts equally.

>>13991655

Chiaki route, imo, ranks the lowest for me; in every other route Haruki had sort of healed and moved on (even with the cringe in Koharu's), while in Chiaki, she even says she will keep on faking in at the ending so to keep Haruki "normal". It's really sort of weird - her route made very loud noise of using Haruki and playing him like a fiddle, something that doesn't really compare with other routes. I guess Maruto wanted to show a multifacet dimension.

>>13992550
Large boobs are DISGUSTING nothing fizzles out my boner quicker then E+ cup tits

>>13992550
Indeed.

I dig gold diggers.

>>13992550
Shape is more important than size.

>>13992598
Agreed. Koharu is really cute but her whole drama feels fucking retarded. I mean Haruki rejected that student maybe a little too harshly, but why the fuck are all of Koharu's classmates shallow bitches? And that ending where her friend forgives Koharu, I just felt like CONGRATULATION FOR NOT BEING A JEALOUS BITCH ANYMORE

Finished Rinko's route in ボクはともだち。 ～I am not sweetheart.～ I enjoyed the game and had a lot of fun with it, though it had some faults. The pacing and how long it took for the protagonist to realize he was in love and the resolution to the climax scene bothered me a lot. Also the varying volume levels of the voice clips was awkward, especially with Akira. I would've preferred a lot more scenes of them together as a couple also.

That being said I really enjoyed all the characters, especially the protagonist. I really liked the concept and the novelty of the story, while also having some more interesting ideas behind it. I feel like the ending wasn't a perfect conclusion to all of the points, but it still wrapped up most of the loose ends well enough. Overall for a first work for this doujin group it was pretty good and I'm hoping to see more from them.

>>13986620
All in all Dies irae is actually pretty shit.

Gotta admit though Conjueror translation was slightly better than Revenger's translation from spacebattles.

In terms of translation accuracy overall Revenger's translation is paints a more accurate depiction of masada talent as a writer, which is shit btw. Conjueror on the other hand tries to make his translation as verbose as possible when there no actually need for it.

Just finished Yukiiro's マル route and wow, the ending made me giggle.
Hopefully it will make me forget Natsuyume Nagisa's shitty ending

>>13994221
Why are you judging the game when you rely on translations?

Has anyone else here played 大逆転裁判? In the first case it's established that only 細長刑事 can speak English, and thus must interpret for the English exchange student. However, in subsequent cases after they leave Japan, as far as I can tell it is implied that everyone is speaking in English despite the fact it has already been established that 成歩堂 does not understand English (as indicated by the squiggly lines whenever the girl speaks English).

Can anyone explain this? Surely I'm missing something here.

I want you guy to hit me with a screencap of the hardest VN of all time. I've been studying Japanese for 2 years and suddenly something just clicked in my head, and I feel like I can read anything with 0 problems. Like 6 months ago I would struggle with easy tier VNs, but now I can just pick up any novel and read it.

I wanna see what the hardest thing you've got is.

>>13994221

Revenger's isn't done seriously, is just for forumites, is terribly written, and focuses on word-to-word literal translations half of which don't make sense and totally butchers the original. Basically, it's not worth reading.

Revenger: "Note: This is a word-to-word and literal translation so a lot won't sense in English grammar. I don't guarantee 100% or seamless translation either." Also known as, this translation will butcher the original writing. So, if we look at an excerpt of Revenger's we realize Conjueror's is far better.

Revenger's excerpt: Is the egg first? Or the chicken first? His Emanation, from where does the already-known feeling started?

He won’t reach to the understand even if he doesn’t come here. Because he doesn’t understand, he repeats the same mistake many times over。

If for a certain day, you will notice the world is already filled with already-known. There is no new surprise, and it might in the womb of the mother that you know everything about the road you walked on。

Please discuss translation issues at >>13984212, this thread is not correct place for it.

>>13994484
Case 1 starts and ends on November 22nd. Case 2 starts on January 9th the following year. It's not impossible that the characters learned English in the meantime, though it would certainly be quite a feat.

What bothers me about the whole multiple languages thing is a specific part of the second case. When Nikomina meets Asougi, he answers the door with something like (paraphrased, translated): "I wasn't expecting you at this hour, detective." By saying this, he clearly indicates that he thought he was talking to Hosonaga, and so it's reasonable to assume he would be speaking Japanese, as both he and the detective are Japanese. However, Nikomina specifically reacted to what he says as if she understood what he was saying, and that becomes an important plot point when she goes to stop him from apparently reaching for the call bell. I guess that's the problem with portraying interactions between a Russian native and a Japanese native on a boat headed to England when you can only assume your audience can read Japanese.

>>13994512
Not sure if this is hard or not since I took it from vndb but here.

>>13994666
fuck off EOP

>>13994682
I don't even try to read Dies Irae or other hard games, not even screenshots, for fear of being demotivated. I can normal games fine, chuunige scare me.

>>13994666
That's more of a matter of vocabulary than actual difficulty. That's how I feel about a lot of chuunige actually.

>>13994651
Wait, so there really isn't any other explanation provided? I didn't miss anything? The characters ARE all just speaking English? What the fuck?

I had actually assumed they were all just speaking Japanese in the second case given that they are on a boat that left from Japan and Sherlock Holmes is fluent in a bunch of different languages. But then, from time to time, characters mention people speaking in "strange English" and it doesn't really make sense that the Russian 15 year old would be fluent in Japanese either.

This really irks my autism because they made it such a major point in the first case that the girl was speaking English while everyone else was speaking Japanese. If they hadn't literally gone out of their way to establish that the main character doesn't understand English, this wouldn't annoy me nearly as much.

Is Walkure Romanze actually a moe-nukige? I'm surprised to see that each character only got a couple normal CGs (1 kiss, 1 "introductory" cg, 1 plot cg, roughly), but like 10~ H-scenes.

>>13995011
Well, there's another time skip of about a month between the second and third cases, which certainly gives Naruhodou a good amount of time to learn the language. In particular, it was mentioned at the end of the second case that he planned to put a lot of effort into doing so before reaching England. It's probable that while on the ship, he was speaking fairly poor but still understandable English. Also, I do remember Asougi saying something in the first case that leads me to think that he at least had some amount of knowledge of the language at that time, though I can't remember the specific line.

When will you guys start reading real literature?

>>13995046
Yeah, I also remember him saying something in the first case that implied Naruhodo was studying English to some capacity.

I guess I'll chalk it up to me overlooking something and not the writer failing to explain it. Your explanation certainly makes more sense than the idea that everyone in the second case could speak English.

>>13995049
When real literature gets good.

>>13995049
I do occasionally. Most modern japanese literature isn't that great though.

>>13995064
So you've already read all the essential classics?

>>13995049
I already do. In fact, for the most part I think that VNs are garbage.

>>13995066
I would maintain that nobody has read everything they should, simply because the quantity of "essential" classics is too large to reasonably complete.

>>13995070
I think you're in the wrong thread

>>13995066
Depends on what you'd consider essential.
Personally I learned japanese before getting really into otaku stuff so I read a lot of traditional literature.

Speaking of essential, what are 'essential' VNs?

>>13995049
I don't read eroge for prose. I read eroge for cute girls.

>>13995345

An oxymoron.

>>13995049
When will real literature start having cute anime girls?

>>13995575
Pretty soon the way things are going

>>13995345
Mememasa

>>13995345
There really aren't. Maybe something like FSN for how popular it is and how widespread it's influence is, but beyond that I don't think you could say something is essential.

>>13995882
There are very popular works that most people have read, though, like Muramasa, Subahibi, WA2 and Baldr Sky. You could go with those when people ask for "essentials".
>>13995049
I have 硝子戸の中 right next to me here.

>>13994512
Line cherry picking aside try a railsoft game or something, those are probably the "hardest" you'll get with eroge. Eroge, like most contemporary literature, isn't really hard because it's not trying to be. Being so hard that most of the audience can't read it just for the sake of being hard isn't really a good business strategy and most stuff including eroge are commercial products. Most of the "hard" VNs are that way because they need "harder" concepts to make the story work or use larger vocabulary than the "easier" games. They're not written in some unique magical script. Japanese learners just like to masturbate over something like Muramasa or Dies Irae being so hard that even the native speakers can't read it despite this obviously being false.

Easiest way to challenge yourself as far as the language goes is pretty much to try the kind of stuff you've never read before. For people who haven't read chuunige reading chuunige works to some extent. Most people have more trouble with older stuff, not because it's inherently harder, but because it's generally different than the stuff people are used to. In this sense a railsoft title works for most people who have stuck strictly with eroge since the writing style in that differs a lot from other eroge (that I am familiar at least).

Sorry I'm just somewhat tired of people masturbating over how hard VNs or whatever book they read in Japanese is and these "x is hard" "no it's not" conversations.

>>13995345
There are focal points in history.

Babby's first is widely regarded to be Kanon in Japan.

PC-88/98 Dragon Knights and Rances for origins. Elf *kyuusei series and Otogirisou for the beginning of the current known structure of eroge. Tokimeki Memorial. YU-NO. Leaf's Shizuku, Kizuato, ToHeart. Tactics' ONE for nakige structure that explicitly defined future Key and 7th Expansion and influenced a bunch of others.

Probably left a bunch out but that's a good starting point.

>>13996400
Weren't Kiminozo and C+C pretty important, too? Asking because I'm not sure.

>>13996417
Sure I guess, but I kinda threw that in with the "influenced a bunch of others" on the focus on drama/making you cry.

C+C... well that's a good example of something well-regarded but that bombed hard, as well as part of Tanaka Romeo's Curse of Softhouse Destruction.

>>13996375
The fuck am I looking at

>>13996565
Kajiri Kamui Kagura if I'm not mistaken

>>13996576
I mean the text of course. That's some chinese.

>>13996681

>>13996565
I think it's some Buddhist chant, but don't quote me on that.

>>13996681
It's 光明真言.

>>13996746
Is that basically like putting biblical verses into a fight scene?

>>13996755
Roughly.

>>13996755
Prayers or something would be better example, but yes.

>>13996375
>>13996729
I doubt even natives can understand that shit, so you shouldn't feel bad for not getting it as a foreigner.

>>13997185
Not unless they studied it themselves or had to learn it in school.

>>13996746
and honestly this doesn't make it hard, it's just buddhist shit, you can look them up and read contemporary translations of them, they show up in other eroge too

it does make it hard to translate, but that's all

>>13997191
There are university courses for 漢文 iirc. You can buy books too that teach you to read classical chinese literature.

>>13997263
Of course, but I'm saying the average person won't have any real knowledge offhand.

Which one is the cause of physical eroge sales keep declining, piracy or japs starting to lose interest in eroge? Or people start buying the digital copy?

>>13997234
Translation is a whole other thing yes. I agree with you, though I'd say that the text itself is hard (even if you can search for a contemporary translation), which is what the guy earlier asked for. But as I said cherry picking lines like that is stupid when talking about general difficulty and as I stated when I posted said screenshot I don't think eroge or contemporary fiction is particularly hard to read. With that particular scene you don't really even HAVE to look up said chant to understand the work.

There are some things in KKK chants that would be better for cherry picking if searching for modern TLs is taken into consideration (stuff that's not straight from other stuff). But still these make up a very tiny amount of the total text in KKK so calling the whole work super difficult because of it would be really stupid.

>>13997335
Probably the last one. More and more games come out digitally these days and it saves people from the awkwardness of having to show cashier what kind of porn you're into or having to mail order shit. Digital sales have been growing in all industries so I doubt eroge are somehow an exception.

>>13997410
The only reason left to buy physicals are tokuten.

>>13997413
I like to have a box or something on my shelf however meaningless. I order physical books, too.

>>13997413
Yeah. Collectors will always want physical goods, no matter what. Still, for any casual eroge player the slightly lower price digital games tend to have and the ease of purchase are far more attractive, not to mention the sheer amount of room all the boxes and shit take.

>>13997428
Books are different because the medium changes.

With software the copy is the same. You'll probably want to end up not opening that box and downloading someone else's rip if it exists anyways which is basically a digital copy. I like collecting physical things of the things I like too, but functionally it's the same, just that a physical copy degrades over time.

Slowpoke here. Finished Harukuru and Natsukumo in one big summer binge. Loved the hell out of them, they were both wild rides that had enough heart in them to make me care about more than just "what crazy twist will they think of next".

I felt like Harukuru was a touch better, despite its obvious lack of budget (it desperately needed some more CGs for certain events/revelations); it had enough crazy shit happening to keep me hooked until I cared about the characters and a fantastic ending that warmed the cockles of my heart. A bit slow paced in the first route, though, and that unending deluge of porn at the start is enough to turn off a lot of people. Still worth it. Never expected them to go as far out there as they ended up going.

Natsukumo was a little weaker in the ending department but more than made up for everything by just being fucking funny. Sure it's entirely sex jokes but as someone who was once a horny teenager I can confirm that sex jokes are indeed a thing that happens a lot. Bro character was a total bro and all the relationships with the girls managed to be surprisingly fleshed out and touching. Except Himeka, she was a loli that peed a lot and there was little else to her character so that route was a bit of a drag. Also felt like they were trying a little too hard to jam crazy shit happening in everywhere, but sometimes it really worked so that's not a real complaint.

Either way I enjoyed the hell out of both of those and I'm really looking forward to Fall/Winter.

Any more with that sort of huge genre shift to them that are worth a look? Obviously it's more of an impact when you don't know there even is a genre shift but in those cases even knowing about it doesn't fully prepare you.

This old fixed aspect ratio scaling mode is so bad it fucks things up even when scaling to the same size. I don't even know what to do anymore other than just give up and use a small window.

Front Wing is finished

>>13997913
How come? They seem to be doing fine.

>>13996375
Is this 漢文？

>>13998035
Yes. There was discussion about it a bit earlier.

>>13997593
Well put. I read Natsukuru without any expectations or knowledge about the writer and got one of the best eroge I've ever played. Harukuru is still in my backlog because I didn't want to read two similar twist-y games shortly after another. Guess I'll change that now.

>>13998035
>>13998058
It‘s not just Classical Chinese but Sanskrit derived

>>13997913
Explain

>>13997369
>>13997234
It doesn't make it so hard to translate since they're Buddhist chants, so you can just use the original or use an existing translation

>>13997593
I also really enjoyed both of them. I'll agree with you that Harukuru was better for plot and Natsukumo was better for humor. What I found particularly interesting with Harukuru was that everything was already over, there wasn't exactly major happenings beyond things being explained for why they were there. The ending with Kazuki smiling really was great.

I think I read somewhere that the Autumn one is moving away from lolis, although I hope that isn't true and there is at least one. I don't really care for big tits like Harumi had, and well, I'm a lolicon. So Natsukuru featuring a loli cast, loli-related jokes and actual plot was enjoyable. Which reminds me I still need to read monobeno for more lolis & plot.

>>13998534
Well, natsukuru being loli-centered is actually plot relevant. It makes sense if they move away from it if it isn't important for the story.

Daitoshokan is just as good as I heard; the dialogue flows really well as if it were a real conversation, and the protagonist really is relatable for those of us who were bookworms in high school. So far I'm really enjoying this VN, I'm smiling pretty much constantly as I make my way through the common route.

>>13998886
It helps that Kana was one of the most likeable heroines of that year.

>>13974984
Sauce? This is all I get.

>>13999758
Art looks like To Heart 2, not sure if that's it though.

>>13999758
It's the White Album remake.

>>13997666
Yeah, the scaling built into rUGP was pretty shitty before whichever version of it Shapeshifter used.

>>13999820
I ended up having to put my monitor in the aspect ratio mode I didn't know it had and deal with black bars on all sides. Pretty enjoyable since, thankfully.

>>13999869
Well, personally, Warinaki is probably my favorite title age has made since MLA, though the pacing is a bit weird.
Not that that's saying much considering how shit everything they've made since MLA has been but still.

>>13988298
I just started this. Seems decent so far. The vampire girl is adorable.

>>13998895
Best heroines of Daitoshokan were the flattest and biggest chest. Coincidence?

>>13993557
>>13999758
That's Kisaragi Sayoko from White Album 1, the remake for the original game from 1997. She is an unlockable heroine that appears after you beat the game once.

>>13999758
That's Kisaragi Sayoko from White Album 1, the remake for the original game from 1997. She is an unlockable heroine that appears after you beat the game once.

>>13993557
She is pretty funny. Pardon my samefagging, sir.

>>13999758
That's Kisaragi Sayoko from White Album, the remake for the original game from 1997. She is an unlockable heroine that appears after you beat the game once.

>>13993557 (You)
She is pretty funny. Pardon my samefagging, sir.

>>13998199
The only english translation available for the 古事記, which KKK uses if I recall correctly (not sure though) is fucking awful. So yeah good luck.

>>13999758
>>13999790
That's Kisaragi Sayoko from White Album: Tsuzurareru Fuyu no Omoide. She is an unlockable heroine that shows up after you beat the game once.

>>13993557
She is pretty funny. Pardon my samefagging.

>>13995049
I already do, but I like my Japanese porn games more so I invest more time on the latter overall.

>>13998805
Yeah, I can understand that. Just had a look at the teaser page for the new one and it seems three of them have massive tits, which I really don't care for. I would've preferred it if it was something like the balance in Harukuru. It isn't enough to put me off reading it though, since the others were enjoyable.

>>13998534
That looks awfully lewd.

>>13998534
I will never get to the good part of this game because the nukige part is too ridiculous for me to take it any of it seriously.

>>14001042
Any good VNs I can finish in one sitting?

>>14001316
Didn't meant to quote, sorry

>>14001316
yes

>>14001316
I feel like that greatly depends on your reading abilities.

>>14001340
Well, just things that are considered to be much shorter than the usual. Like Dra+Koi or Carnival.

>>13992392
>From the way EGS was reacting I imagined some kind of Steins;gate 2.0 in terms of quality.
Yeah it was good, but not Steins;Gate good and it's still much closer to Chaos;Head in terms of setting, story and somewhat similar characters.

The final ending in particular struck me with a "wait what, the game's finished already?" moment when the credits started rolling. Makes you wonder why have compulsory heroine routes that are a pain to get into at all apart from giving them more characterization when their (slight spoiler, which isn't that much of a spoiler for those who've played through Chaos;Head) Di-Sword related abilities don't get to see ANY limelight outside their own routes apart from Hina. I mean their routes were enjoyable to play through, but ended up being almost completely irrelevant in the major scale of things. While they're good filler, they're still just filler. The main story would have worked just as fine even without them.

I'm actually pondering whether the game was cut short for some reason. The (actual spoilers follow) Shogun-looking old man with Uki ends up being a red herring / never explained, Serika is still a gigalomaniac and while I never expected the characters actually "win" against the Committee I was assuming the game end with some kind of a bang, not a whimper. That or the side-heroine routes were an afterthought and were made compulsory in order to pad out the way to true route.

Is the steampunk series considered chuunige at all? I'm enjoying the fantasy setting in Inganock but I don't know how it compares to traditional chuunige in terms of either vocab difficulty or content. So far there hasn't been anything cringeworthy.

>>14001924
It isn't chuuni because it's actually good.

>>14001924
I wouldn't consider it chunni, at least in traditional sense.

>>14001929
Shitposter-kun please leave.

>>14001929
this

chuuni is actually synonym with kusoge. don't let people fool you.

>>14001924
It should be obvious the series isn't chuuni by the first minute you go through it. Having battles and chants doesn't make something chuunibyou. I have no idea why people keep thinking this. It should be obvious what chuunige are just by looking at fortissimo and DI.

I'm extremely mad right now, ボクはともだち, how in hell do you release a game without the true end?
It's like they want to make people mad for no reason, so much buildup and foreshadowing for a fucking TO BE CONTINUED.
I rarely get mad at eroge, but this is a literal kick in the balls for one game I was actually enjoying, the heroine-to-be had a VA and all, extremely frustrating.

>>14002082
Incomplete games aren't a new occurrence in doujin games, you know.

>>14002114
It's lacking one single route, the true one.
You can even see in the CG/memories gallery the placeholder for said heroine, this is extremely underhanded.

>>14001929
I would upvote you if we are on reddit.

>>14002082
How about you learn to google? True end was actually released, just not in the version you pirated. Buy the game if you want it.

>>14002082
>>14002777
Is it any good? Worth buying it for 3000 yens?

>>14003731
Nope. It's horse manure. Buying it would be a ripoff.

How would you feel if a sweet love story turned into NTR and this chance was random.

Tried chronoclock, and
I'm really kinda ticked that the MC basically falls in love in the main route, thats kinda bullshit.
Still the thing about the umbrella for a sunny day was so cute

>>14004251
I like NTR, so I'd enjoy it.

>>14004327
why?
do you just assume position of the one doing the cheating?

>>14004349
I don't insert into anyone.

It's just the taboo of it that excites me, same as how people are into stuff like brother-sister incest.

>>14004251
If it doesn't happen with my favorite heroine I don't give a shit. All of the girls in every other game I play don't matter as much as her.

>>14004359
but imagine falling for somebody for them to be raped and then go insane while you try helping them but its already too late and they're gone.

>>14001891
Is there any connection between Takumi and the new MC? Do CH characters ever appear?

>>14004263
It's actually worse because best girl doesnt even get a complete route.

>>14004394
only tried the sister's route and the entire route is just looking after a kid, I mean where's the icha icha that comes from brocons?

>>14004404
>only tried the sister's route and the entire route is just looking after a kid
All of my fucking rage.

>>14004417
i know what you mean i mean she's a freaking crazy brocon, i expected more cute and awkward situations, she pretty much stops being one when she gets all motherly about the kid and even then there wasn't much to go.

I'm looking for a VN where a girl is crazy about the mc, preferably deredere or brocon, but with a good route and cute moments

>>14004459
blbl, Youko route. I played only for her, and it was pretty fun.

So yeah I watched korezon and well there was a vn they discussed where the protag turned out to be the villian.

I realize that asking for a vn where the surprise is that the the protag is the the villian is kinda defeating the purpose.

but yeah is there?
Or something like it that isn't well the protag raping everything he sees.

>>14004941
wait who's youko?

>>14004987
https://vndb.org/c9916
The protagonist stalker.
Also, if you want brocon, you always have a Alcot games (at least, relay broadcast an shunki gentei).

So yeah what up with the rape happiness thing
I've been hearing about

>>14005248
Tonakoi is getting a fandisc, entitled Tonakoi RAPE due to the copious amounts of NTR type B planned for it to contain.

>>14004977
> eroge
> villain protag
> not raping everything he sees
Wrong medium, man.
I cannot find even single villain protag vn which wouldn't involve rape.

>>14005256

https://vndb.org/g1458?fil=tagspoil-1.tag_inc-1458;m=2
>Initially, the heroine is raped, blackmailed, drugged or otherwise tricked to have sex with someone other than the protagonist. However, she eventually starts enjoying it and the sex becomes fully consensual in the end

Are you fucking kidding me?!
I mean sure Rina>>14005248
passes out from kissing but the girls actually like the protag they dont even seem to be into sex at all that much and he's not even a fast shooter, if memory serves he had sex for hours the first time he did it.

>>14005269
Alright, I was just joking, the the Tonakoi fandisc was called "The respective happiness" and the company tweeted a joke by picking out letters in such a way that they spelled rape, see: "the Respective hAPinEss", i.e. RAPE. Just a joke.

>>14005282
why did they spell it like that, its like a sick joke.

>>14004381
>connection between Takumi and the new MC?
Not a real connection, but the information otaku protagonist kind of idolizes Takumi due to (Chaos;Head spoilers) how he managed to turn the tides when he was about to get lynched by the masses and clear his name which served as a fuel for the protagonist's "information is king" attitude. He doesn't get brought up that many times though.
>Do CH characters ever appear?
Only this lady from Chaos;Head makes an actual appearance. There's a few billboards with Ayase's band and one point in one of the heroine routes where the main characters are most likely (really mild Chaos;Child spoilers) conversing with Takumi through the internet, but nothing major.

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