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>>13943345
First Aigis picture saved.

Arena, start first.

Turn 1: discard Lv 40 Ryumei
Turn 2: discard Marsha
Turn 3: discard Lv 33 Yuzuki, play 1200 Atk Rebecca

What have I become, discarding rare cards without regret... Steamrolled the AI on turn 6 (5 1100+ fatties vs nothing).

>>13944114
I used to do that because I was running the green starter and the pumpkin grill was pure power in the early days, I now usually set up dominance and card advantage early then wait till I get a 1500+ or the beast tamer anatasia because of of ripple, yuzukis, and more prevalent is that SR strategist ryumei.

It's sad, Arena AI doesn't know how to take advantage of board control. I screwed up from misreading the trap cards that supported Sakura. At one point I was facing 5 vs 0 bodies at my summoning phase. I got down to 100 life. I still win just by flooding the board and chipping away at life with endgame attackers.

>>13944144

Pumpkin girl still is pivotal in my deck and I didn't start with any. I've grinded her to 1200+ which puts her in reach of the 1500 threshold with one buff. If the +300 atk book isn't in my hand, then I can play a stall game with Prepare for Battle as Ripple, Yuzuki and Ryumei are all bad at attacking. Hmm, this description has no disagreement with your statement.

Someday, PvP will be back and we'll see how our decks adjust. Probably by then, we'll have enough cards that we can make a PvP deck and a PvE deck.

>>13944176
Yuzuki is actually surprisingly robust I have her at her form 1 max level and she is effectively 1420 for 8 on the attack, if there is a face down blocker she sucks and is pretty much guaranteed that the AI blocks with the HR story cards or Yuzuki or Ryumei, the prevalence of these cards prevent my dreams of a mid range aggro deck (gang boss asuka helps but I am leveling my high progression cards first) and the lack of haste and high attack values on progression on the cheap cards means I can't play sligh, goblins, or RDW which are my favorite builds in magic.

>>13944176
Oh, if you are desperate the beast tamer deck starts with 3 of her; personnally looking at slyvie from in another patch of grass is making me jealous though the 1 copy of decree in the green starter has saved my life so fucking many times against that bitch.

Is it worth it to spend tickets on the summer love gatcha if I'm looking for 4 of anything? Will those cards ever be available again?

>>13944176

Oops not Pumpkin girl, I meant Sara. 5 drop, 1200 atk. Pumpkin girl grows slowly.

>>13944194

My problem with Yuzuki is that if the opponent's board is clear, she doesn't hit hard.

> my dreams of a mid range aggro deck

I am living this dream, to the point where I'm considering dropping Yuzuki and other non-aggro cards from my Arena deck.

Pic related.

>>13944220

In 1 year's time, yes. Otherwise well, you've got until 8 Sept to gather your login proofs and roll. You will certainly get lots of SRs and with some luck, about 30 rolls will get you a 4-of or two.

>>13944220
You are a little late to optimally ask this question but the answer is: this is a way higher chance to get a SR since there are only two Rs in the gatcha pool so if you were hording tickets this is the time to spend since there are no way to get SSRs any other way right now (the secret SR event Rs haven't been implemented and I am a free player) I had 4 tickets when this even started and I have 1 playsets and 1 SSR Riza, this is probably due to extreme luck but I am hoping to increase the playsets to 4 by the end of the event since I have a couple sets of 3

>>13943345

Guys how does the events here work?

If I don't finish the first ten quests before the second set of 10 becomes available on the 18th, will I no longer have access to the first ten? Or will I be able to continue to work on them?

Also, can you generally finish the events without buying stamina potions?

>>13944256
Was she flat-chested in the Japanese version? 'Cause that doesn't look flat-chested to me.

>>13945313
No

>>13945313
It's relative to her archer friend.

Ok, Mecha Chocola drops gear that can actually compete with item lotto stuff. Still no weapon from her, if any.

Hmm... I begin to see the (still tiny) diversity in deck strategies. In MtG terms, everything is still green-white mid-range. But within that broad umbrella we have aggro and stall. Aggro is obvious enough (fatties every turn starting turn 3).

Stall would be clogging up the board with Yuzuki, Ripple, etc together with traps and Emily. When you have 10+ mana and put down 2 face-down bodies and a trap, it gets awkward for the attacker:
- Did a Yuzuki sneak in there with Never Give Up? Or Ripple with Weaken?
- Is one of those face-downs an Emily that must be killed?
- What if it was cheap chaff bodies with Invitation to Hell? Or Banish?

Then you realise it was a Kurbis (>>13925914) as she crashes into you for 3k+ atk. Or next turn Sylvie shows up and there's those 2 traps played the previous turn that haven't gone away.

>>13945434
That explains it then, thank you.

man, archers are such a shit unit until you max out their affection
I spent all gifts on Bashira and Cloris, and now all four of my other archers are severely lacking in damage despite being 40~ish level. Can't do shit in any map after Oasis

What would I be missing out on by choosing the DMM version of Aigis over the Nutaku one?

Which one would be a better choice to play in the long run?

>>13946439
By playing Nutaku, you get English and a chance to run some events that have been run already.
By playing DMM, you get:
A hell of a lot more content
A lot better initial loadout (Free Bashira and Gold healer by level 10)
Auto-complete
Full list of characters, not just the busty ones
And if you start on DMM right now, you get two SCs a day until 9/12.

The choice is clear.

You could always play Nutaku a little to get the mechanics down, and then run DMM.

>>13946439
The devs don't seem to give a shit about Nutaku. The main difference is that Nutaku still has events that DMM had long ago and it's in english, which makes things like affection/trust scenes readable if you don't speak jap. On the other hand DMM has considerably more content and units (lolis) nutaku had to cut, at least for now, but I wouldn't be surprised if nutaku never got them because the devs seem to hate foreigners.

>>13946468
I see.

I've heard that event units can still be obtained in certain ways after the events they premiered in, so I wouldn't be missing out a lot to do with units, correct? I like to collect as many as possible.

As far as I understand, the only downside is that you can't get the stuff like CR reduction for them anymore, but that's only useful for high end minmaxing, right?

I have an account on both, but I'm definitely progressing a lot faster on DMM, especially with the event going on right now where you can easily get the platinum pirate girl on the first mission. And I managed to roll that blonde girl with the green cannon, which is cool.

>>13946439
DMM
-Events that are dozens of times more difficult than the hardest maps English Aigis has ever seen.
-Very frequent events.
-Subsequently much less time to farm story missions to level your units up
-More units
-More classes
-Awakening
-Skill Awakening

Nutaku
-Events are much more spaced out
-Tons of time to level units up
-Events are noobie-friendly

>>13946474
Right, not really playing this for H content though, so non-readable scenes is a very minor concern.

>>13946491
Yeah, there's revival events where you can get older event characters, I'm not clear on the details, just started DMM three days ago.

>>13945557
Wait where the heck is kurbis from? I don't see her in Gatcha or medal rewards.

>>13946491
Yes it's possible to get them later, if you're okay with waiting like 9 months.

You can still CR but it's way, way, way, way, way harder.

Depends on the class, some units get completely gimped if you don't CR them heavily (like Anna and Aria). Others you can use at max cost and you won't be able to tell the difference from a min cost 99% of the time (Mages).

>>13946508
>>13946519
Ah, I see.

One quick question... where is the button for auto-complete? Haven't really figured that out yet, but it sounds useful.

>>13946558
It's the blue button after you 3* a map and get completion reward.

>>13946566
Alright, thanks.

What good are iron fairies? Seem so pointless.

>>13946674
You can throw them in with regular feed for 1.5x boost.

Yes, pretty weak, but hey it's something.

As long as we're talking about faeries, what do the black ones do? I'm on the DMM version, and had 2 in my gift box.

>>13946735
There are several fairies of black tier rarity, soo which ones do you mean?

I'm going to guess pink hair, that's a skillup fairy.

>>13946748
Yeah, it's those. Guess I should save them? Or are they common enough that dumping them into the platinum archer you start with wouldn't be a bad idea?

>>13946735
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%A4%BD%A4%CE%C2%BE
More specific, pls.

>>13946755
Save them for now, minor amounts of skillups don't really matter that much.

So Awakening is like a postCC CC - what's Skill Awakening?

>>13946802
SkillAwa is a skill change. It takes a special fairy and a bunch of cash and some awakening orbs to change up the skill of the unit, sometimes just boost, sometimes make it very different. It does not affect the stats.

They need to be awakened and at max skill.

>>13946802
You can change their skill for something better.
The skill has to be maxed before you change it though, iirc.

>>13946789
Alright.

On another note, what's the difference between dmm.co.jp and dmm.com? I've been using co.jp

>>13946811
Oh and you can revert it by paying the same amount of shit again.

>>13946821
dmm.com is SFW side, with all-ages Aigis.

>>13946825
So can I jump between SFW and NSFW Aigis, or would it be a separate game?

>>13946830
You can jump back and forth with no problem.

>>13946852
Oh? I tried to login to dmm.com with my dmm.co.jp registered account and it said it wasn't available in my area, which is odd.

>>13946855
You need to do the cookie edit http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_Proxy_Connection

But once you can actually access it, your save is shared between both versions. They sometimes may have different events going on, so essentially getting double event.

Are there any serial codes that still work for DMM Aigis?

>>13946975
No

I now have two gold Iris on DMM's Aigis. Do I just feed her to the other one?

>>13947061
Not unless you CC both. Otherwise you don't get the skill up.

>>13946288
Oasis is supposed to be the dead end you reach for a while.

>>13946498
Nice try, but DMM still lets you level up faster.

>>13947100
If I skill up Iris fully before CC'ing her, does she keep it when her skill changes? Both of them are non-CC since I'm just starting on DMM.

>>13946813
It's not necessarily better, sometimes it's just different. Rachel, for example, loses some DPS in exchange for a range boost and her skill lasting 90 seconds but with a longer cooldown.

>>13947178
Nope. If you want the skill up you'll have to 50CC one and 30CC the other. Your other options are not caring about the skill up and feeding her now for the CR, or keeping both.

>>13947186
I'll just wait off on deciding for now until I find out whether I'm drowning in silver soldiers to use for CC'ing.

>>13946975
Yes, but you have to pay for them. All book codes (char book, 2 LNs) should work.

>>13947356
Also the onahole. And 2 more codes later this month from other stuff.

>>13947401
Can you give a name or link for the onahole? Just want to see it.

>>13947429
Just search aigis onahole - it's Gina, and you get a code for her.

>>13947429
No need for a disclaimer to guard your precious integrity as a well-adjusted normalfag on an anonymous post on /jp/.

>>13947401
2.5k yen for gold unit doesn't seem to be worth it.

There's new LN going to be published late august, huh.

>>13947876
Yeah the Gina thing is just a little bonus for people who already want an onahole. If you want cool units, go get a sapphire from one of the books.

>>13947881
Someone have a link to the sapphire code books? Don't want to buy the wrong thing.

>>13947898
http://s3-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com/assets.millennium-war.net/00/html/ad.htm

>>13947881
I've considered buying them, but sapphires just don't look cool enough. They are even worse than good plats.
>>13947898
月下の花嫁
月下の花嫁II
月下の花嫁III
キャラクタープロファイルVol.1

You can buy all of them on amazon.

>>13947918
Wow, those books are actually pretty cheap compared to the other jap books I've wanted to buy. Are there any good sapphire units?

>>13947928
See yourself, http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%C6%C3%BC%EC%A5%EC%A5%A2

>>13947933
I was asking how good they are at battle and was looking for insight from someone with experience. Also, why isn't Sybilla's sister there? I thought she was a sapphire.

>>13947933
No sexy foxy lady, I am sad.

Hmm, Kaguya Princess and her made don't interest me much... maybe the Demon girl, but $20 is a bit steep...

>>13947968
She's coming out later this month. Doesn't exist yet.

What's the difference between the two Jap Aigis wikis? Seems like they have the same info, what am I missing?

>>13946674
you can use them in black units, since black fairies are such a pain to get until some point

>>13948226
Sometimes they have different commentary which can be helpful, but the gcwiki one seems much more active and up to date.

amazon.co.jp has separate login system? My usual amazon account doesn't seem to work there.
Do they ship outside japan for all-ages stuff?

Extra free crystal on DMM since they messed up Sella's skill awakening for everyone who has her, even if she's not awoken.

>>13948809
Are japs actually known to be good at customer service in general? Just curious.

Who is better? Vampire Karma or Sybilla

>>13949401
Sybilla if you want to kill stuff, Karma if you want her not to get killed by stuff

>weekend ends
>no update in sight
At least I got 1 more try to roll Olivia because I have all other available elf units, but I just rolled a Leanne instead

>>13949456
>he still thinks japs would even bother with announcing the update

laughingcalliope.png

Hopefully does come out this Tuesday, there was no reason to push it back a week, let alone two. Not to mention the facebook posts will prob go even more crazy if its delayed another week+

On the bright side, end of pero event soon so can relax off that and AS goes into phase 2. Though kinda worried about that since I only just finished phase 1 yesterday. If the stamina costs keep going up, no way will 1 week be enough for last 10 stages.

>>13949490
I haven't even reached half of stage 10 and I don't think I'll be using any of those stamina refill this event. I just hope I somehow manage to finish stage 16 for whatever the reward is.

>>13949508
Think pose to be another ticket. And yeah I used I think about 3 refills really early on. Used them to force a lvl up to get even more stamina back.

>>13949517
Is the Oniwaka girl a stage 20 reward then? I was thinking she'd be at stage 16 along with some other things, just can't remember.

>>13949527
Yeah, 6/16 for ticket
10/20 for SR card, plus seems there is a bonus quest after the 20 and chance for her to drop there.

>>13949534
Ughh, not really enthusiastic about a ticket but those SSR exps and mats though so I guess I'll keep on going.

>>13949534
Will the first 10 quests get closed?

>>13950064
No clue, my guess is no because they want sense of progress through all 20 (also like aigis where first part is open one week and then rest next), but thats just a guess.

There really hasn't been any indication that they will go away, but its always possible I suppose.

>>13947881
Are sapphires stronger or weaker than black units?

>>13950393
Not even close. Stat wise they're usually between golds and plats.

I seriously hope the Mystic Sorcery event doesn't get delayed this week. These fairies have been taking up so much space.

Who on my team would benefit most from a platinum armor?

I'm seriously stumped. I have the materials to CC my Assassin Cypria if that's a good idea, but I don't know if it is.

I don't have any other good units, this is my best team. I want to be on top form for the Mystic Sorcery event when it comes, so I want to level whoever will be most useful for it I suppose.

>>13950606
I would personally wait until you got an event unit
However if you MUST use it, get either your gold witch, gold Valk or platinum thief to level 50cc50 first, then use the armor.

This is done in mind that 50cc50->60/70/80 is a huge pain and every armor is welcomed.

>>13950606
There's really no such thing as a best team, even if you had Despara and Olivier, they would be pretty much useless for this event because you'll be up against 90% magic damage reduction. You'll want at least 2 solid healers and ranged physical attackers, a duelist, an armor, a soldier, and whatever.

>>13950606
For the event, your healers are your best candidates, but the platinum armor with 3 fairies will probably give them a EXP surplus.

You could also give it to Kerry or Cypria.

>>13950732
I think you're slightly underestimating the exp curve from 40 to 50.

>>13950742
>Checks EXP chart
Oh hey, look at that.

>>13950606
In that case, yeah! Healers are your top candidate!

What are monks good for? Just got the onahole Monk, minus the Onahole.

>>13950912
Basically block 2 rogues at a higher cost, but with non-assassination skills.

Well shit. There's something you don't see everyday. I now have one of our lovely healer sister duo Iris, courtesy of 2k gacha.

>>13950959
I've gotten two golds from 2k, both were healers.

>>13950974
I believe this is the first time I've gotten a gold from 2k. I got a single Platinum before, Lilia, but that was closer to the beginning of the game. It's just been mainly silvers.

>>13950097

It's tactically beneficial for Nutaku to not disclose that information. Anxiety = gold spendings.

DMM Saga got some interested rebalances a few days ago. Wonder if we'll see them anytime soon. best girl Anastasia is even better now

http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=709242&postcount=525

>>13951905
*interesting

Goddammit hands.

>>13951905

>Amazonian Hilde: Rushing Floods: drops fire opponent's attack by 600 (instead of 200)

Tripled in magnitude? Serious hate card now.

>Chao: max stats are now 1550/800 (from 1350/1200)

I have a Lv 51 Chao. This will end well.

>Stone Soldiers: costs 2 mana (instead of 5)

Ryumei is now a threat to mid-range aggro.

>Fountain of the Truthful: draws 3 cards (instead of 2)

Excuse me? Divination wasn't considered a good enough card so they buffed it? Ok I guess in a game where you draw 2 cards at a time, that's justifiable.

> Crystal of the Radiance/Darkness/Inferno/Floods/Grove:
>-costs 3 mana (instead of 6)
>-lasts three turns (instead of 1)

Oooook, mono-element teams actually get a serious buff now, which goes hand in hand with the boost to element-hate skills.

>>13952049
>> Crystal of the Radiance/Darkness/Inferno/Floods/Grove:
>>-costs 3 mana (instead of 6)
>>-lasts three turns (instead of 1)
Guess I won't discard them anymore.

>>13952049
>Divination wasn't considered a good enough card so they buffed it?

We're talking about a game here where Emily is a card, and where tempo is so important that it's hard to find a moment to pay 5 mana for anything not board related. I think literally the only reason to play the current fountain is if you don't own Emily, and even then it's probably not worth it. It's almost like Divination in a format where it has to compete with Ancestral Recall. At least with the change, it will actually become twice as good in order to make up for costing 2.5 times as much.

>>13952396
It just serves to show how hilariously terrible those cards where before if you can just casually half the mana cost and tiple the duration.

Same with stuff like Beckoning Darkness, reduced from 6 mana to 2 mana. I really didn't understand in which universe that effect is supposed to be worth 6 mana. I'm not even sure it's worth 2, but at least now it can be considered if there are enough other cards to build a deck around it.

Just rolled Thief Berna from basic summon on Nutaku Aigis.
I was looking for bronze units to finish cost reducing my team and a Black pops out.

I didn't even know it was possible to roll Black from basic summons.

>>13952581
The chance is astronomically small, but it's there. Gz.
Now go buy a lottery ticket.

>>13952581
1/20,000 basic rolls are black.

I got a platinum once, which is still pretty rare.
Never have got a gold, funnily enough.

Shame it's on Nutaku.

>>13952632
That high? Sounds like decent odds for something you can do thousands of times.

>>13952463
They also need to change Invitation from hell so it affects anything and not only cards with 2000- attack. Some spells for clearing the board would be good too.

>>13952738
There's a separate card for 2001+ cards. And there's also Banish as a fallback option, even though it doesn't do anything to 2001-2099 characters, for some stupid reason.

For board clearing, IIRC, there's an HR whose skill has a fairly ridiculous cost of 7 mana to clear the board, and there might be a spellcard for that too, but it is annoying that neither of them are common. Same with reviving monsters from the graveyard.

>>13952799
>For board clearing, IIRC, there's an HR whose skill has a fairly ridiculous cost of 7 mana to clear the board
What's the point since you can't use in the same turn that you summon. This game really lacks options for those that like to play control.

If I CC a unit and make it max level, does that mean I can't combine any more units with it? For doing things like skill level up and cost down, I mean.

>>13953230
No, you can still combine units.

What's this unit good for?
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%C9%F7%BF%E5%BB%CE%A5%AF%A5%EB%A5%EB

風水士クルル

Something about Feng Shui and weather - is that for desert maps?

>>13954860
She heals 2 units at once (3 after Awakening). She also reduces the duration of negative weather effects (like blizzard and sand storm),

>>13954877
Huh. Is she actually useful, or just really situational?

>>13954860
I don't think there are any story maps with weather effects. In fact, I've never encountered them.

>>13952995
There is a card that destroys all characters including herself when summoned to attack

>>13955271
one of two problems with this card, either it requires to wait a turn to use the effect, which >>13952995 points out is pointless because if they have board control they will just kill it before it can be used.

The second is that you can use the effect if you put into attack as it says but that means
16 mana, which is a long time plus means you probably can't play anything big or at all potentially. Meaning that your opponent can just start gaining control again right away.

It can have uses but a little too limited.

>>13955437
>16 mana
Literally unplayable.

I think someone in the design team was grossly overrating that kind of effect.

Tourneys are back

So whats the most OP card played on curve? The knight that heals itself every fight? Ripple?

>>13955570
And they still seem fucked up to me. I tried to start a match and it just sat there and then spat me back at the beginning saying that there was an error.

>>13955570
Do they actually work?

>>13955595
Works for me. There is a bit of lag but it's playable.

>>13955650
Yeah, it worked the second time. Had to refresh once due to lag, but other than that it was fine. Unfortunately I got matched up against a whale. I think I'll sit this out.

Seems that Stage 11 (and I assume beyond) boss has primrose (fire version of ripple). Don't recall her having, or least using. There are other cards that I don't recall her using either.

>>13955668
and to add insult as I was doing that the game went under maint so didn't finish it lol. Hope it remembers where I was in it.

So I'm guessing no Odette today huh?

>>13954860
I'd say she's good for hugs, judging by her pose

I keep rolling the summer gacha in LoV for some reason. At least I have 4 Marins now. I got an SR Cecil (dat bikini) which made me sad, because I doubt I'll have 3 more before it ends. I've noticed that these games remain fairly vanilla besides the occasional trap (though, PeroPero has some stuff in it like pissing.)

>>13955714
Peropero also has a futanari.

>>13955703
Unlikely. Make sure to send in an angry support ticket complaining about it and the fact we get 1/60th of the crystals the Jap players get.

>>13955714
Most DMM games are pretty vanilla. There are some fetish scenes in Aigis and some games with rape and stuff, but beyond that vast majority of content is vanilla.

>>13955732>>13955714
There was huge uproar when Aigis added futanari angels. Wiki even recommends to do their scenes on all-ages version to not harm fragile otaku's feelings.

>>13955732
When I was glancing through some of the cg, I did catch a sleep molestation scene in Aigis.

>>13955726
Yeah, I remember that one (is there more than one?).
>>13955759
Last thread I just jumped to the DMM Aigis ship and rolled a futa angel. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that there is heavy resistance on that front.
Also I just asked myself why Nutaku Aigis doesn't have the loli witch that you get early on in the DMM one, as the first sex scene has her breasts enlarged (due to the special pills next to her on the bed?) Maybe the second scene isn't oppai-loli, who knows.

>>13955766
> Maybe the second scene isn't oppai-loli, who knows
Yes, second Nenya scene is with her being flat-chested.

Well, just lost a tournament match because the end turn button wouldn't work even after refreshes

So is there a Odette event right now?

I'd have to go find some wifi if so.

>>13955874
No event. Rip Nutaku Aigis.

>>13955874
Nope. No event, no announcements, and Nordland posted about shitty russian VN in Aigis thread, ignoring all event questions.

Tournaments back off again

Hmm, got a canned reply when I complained.
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>>13955911
Just play dmm while nutaku has nothing.

>>13955911
Just play DMM. Nutaku is just a cash grab

>>13953230
>>13953320
However do note that you'll be paying maximum cash for combines at max level.

>>13955996
Its still better to keep nutaku account at 125+ level and full CCed team and grab login SCs and do DC daily, just in case they actually fulfill their promise and make EN-only content. NutakuDev said Aigis hired more people to their EN team, and game is still rising despite delays, so its not like they wrote it off.

>>13955898
I keep missing it. And the only reason why I keep logging back in is to do minimal preperation to see how much fun a tournament is. Because fuck, this game is dull as fuck against the a.i.

>>13955884
>>13955886
Fuck damnit fuck
Get your fucking shit together nutaku.


Fuck

>>13956095
Well. We're getting new contents slower and slower each months. All they have done is just saying. I don't trust them.

>>13956105
You're getting too mad over some pixels. And trust me anon, the tournament, when it is working, is okay. The problem is that the difficulty varies widly. I imagine there is some sort of system in place that makes sure you are pitted against people of similar scores, but since the system is new, everyone has similar scores.
Keep grinding and we'll tell you when this shitty system is working. If you had gone on and played, you would've been pissed due to lag, so you won in this situation, honestly.

>>13956105
It's horrible broken so no value was lost

>>13956140
It did seem to go a lot better this time, so I think it's improving. I actually had 3 or 4 really good matches with only 2 disconnected inbetween before it was taken down again. And all of them were pretty long matches, so there were lots of opportunities to disconnect.

Maybe I was just ultra lucky this time, but I felt a huge improvement over last time.

>>13956222
Yeah, I didn't participate in the last one, but I saw no signs of slowdown. I did d/c about four times at most in my first match, none in my second match (but my opponent did once, and once or twice in my third. Still wasn't nearly as bad as I expected. That might change when more players are online and the servers get even more traffic, but I think it's getting there.

Which is more than I can say for our Aigia friends, anyway.

>>13956222
>>13956257
May be I have unlucky then. I lost 4/4 matchs because lag at end turn button

>>13956257
I didn't participate during the last one too and I thought this was pretty okay. Only needed to refresh a couple of times though I did lose once because the first time I disconnected I didn't know refresh would help. It's a good source of gacha points so I'm fine with it even with a few hickups.

>>13956268
Weird, when I tried refreshing when the issue came up, I was immediately kicked out and penalized for leaving.

>>13956276
It is pretty weird, in my first refresh there was like less than 10 seconds left so I thought I might as well try refreshing, I think I took more than 10 seconds to get back and do a mana exchange again but I somehow managed to get through. Also, the times I needed to refresh, it was during the mana exchange phase and I was trying to discard something from page 2.

>>13956263
That's a bug that happens if you click it immediately after pressing another button. You can just refresh the page and you'll be returned to the match with everything working.

>>13956276
If you aren't back by the end of your turn timer you'll be declared loser, but if you get back on time you'll get another 90sec. I think.

>>13956303
It was like 60 seconds left, pretty sure I didn't take that long to refresh. I never tried it again though since I thought it didn't work. If other people have been doing that, it would explain why I lost waaay more often to this than my opponents.

>>13956314
It also depends on your connection speed as you'll have to be reconnected to your opponent.

>>13954877
>>13954901

She's pretty good in those poisonous swamp maps, too. If it used to be bleed 60 per second (and yeah, it can get that high), she would reduce the damage by 18 to 42 per second. Coupled with heal, it's great. She's worse that single target healing, but better when your entire group's taking a beating from separate sources or environmental damage.

>>13956401
The downside is her lower range, but with awakening she'd reduce it by 70% while healing 3 people at once, each for more than half as much as comparable healers, plus her cost is low.

Starting up on the Aigis dmm, is there any site to get information? Can't read jap, so I won't be able to read unit skills if they also aren't on Nutaku

>>13957033
Stick the wiki into google translator, it gets you good enough.

Hmm, just made it to area 13 and still costs 10 stamina each step. If it stays that for rest of them then means will still cost a decent amount more than phase 1 but least not as bad as could have been.

So, what class do you think the next new black will be? Black necromancer? Black bandit? Black cannoneer? Black monk? Black puppetmaster? Black feng shui?

>>13957425
Black healer

Wtf AS event boss threw out Reve: "if attacked and killed, spend 4 mana to kill the attacker" - she's a 3 drop SSR. That is nasty.

>>13955714
>I keep rolling the summer gacha in LoV for some reason.

So long as you have storage, it's got good reasons to roll even if you're a free player. Ok, storage implies you're not a completely free player.

>>13957584
It's basically invitation to hell in human form, but with the added downside of not protecting your other stuff and wasting 4 mana if the enemy doesn't even attack into it this turn. In return, she has a body, but the stats are horrible and the moment she is revealed by doing pretty much anything, she becomes completely useless, so her only value lies in being attacked once while you have 4 mana to spare.

I'm not convinced why I should pick her over Inviation to Hell. She's not even particularly cute...

>>13957572
But there are already 2 black healers, and I don't think any class has more than 2 blacks unless you count immortal princess and dragon princess as princesses. Besides, there's also Kikyou, Sofie, and Falune as blacks to help with healing. Still, maybe they'd make a black bishop?

>>13957680

> I'm not convinced why I should pick her over Inviation to Hell

Because she has a body. Decks will have far more bodies than traps. When board control is contested and the opponent puts down a trap and nothing else, it's a fair bet it's Invitation to Hell or Forcefield of Light. Aggro-centric decks may have Occult Obliteration just to avoid slowing down in these situations. But what do you do when suddenly EVERY face-down body might be an Invitation to Hell?

Ok sure, the worry that they might have 2 or 3 copies of an SSR in their deck is only relevant for the rare uber whale. But it's just one extra tool of terror for an uber whale.

Bleh, come home from work and find Odette still isn't starting. I'm just going to drop Aigis, the gameplay isn't enticing enough to make me head to DMM.

>>13957742
Still not seeing it, sorry...

I mean, which situations are we talking about where this becomes useful? Ok, so rather than spending your turn on a trap card, where the enemy is going to smell that it's probably Invitation to Hell, you're going to put down a body instead.

Now, what does this look like from the perspective of the enemy? He has his stuff on the board, his strongest minion will at best be whatever he could play last turn, and whatever you've played this turn may cost up to 1 more than his strongest card. How would he react? Well, the safest play would be to reveal what you have and weaken it with his weakest card, then finish it off with his stronger cards. Which happens to be exactly the same kind of counterplay as you would use against Invitation to Hell.

If he has only 1 card on the board and can't do that, it's already extremely risky for him to attack because he's suspecting you have a bigger card than he has. If he still decides to attack, the result will just be that both of you lose their card, which is still alright for him. If you had actually played a big body and he attacks, he would've lost his card AND you kept yours and gain board control. And if he decided not to attack, you actually lost 4 mana because you had to keep them in case he attacks, and now you need to keep 4 mana again until he finally attacks into her.

Which is where we get to the next point, suppose you still have a board other than this card. In that case this card performs even worse because the enemy can just take care of the rest of your board and ignore it for now. And this case is rather relevant imho, since Invitation to Hell is best used as a tool to protect what you have from an enemy that could otherwise kill it. If you have no board, neither Invitation nor any similar effect is particularly useful, because all you're doing is trade 1 for 1 against an enemy card (usually his weakest), while the enemy has a turn to just play something even bigger.

>>13958254
Last case I can think of is playing this face down together with another, smaller card, and then hope on the 50% chance that the opponent attacks into Reve with his bigger card. And then you've basically just fed your other card off for free, used a lot of mana, spent 2 cards, and only destroyed a single card which the enemy can just replace with something else on his turn.

I find it very hard to think of a normal situation (one that happens often enough) where this card is worth playing over other cards.

>>13958254
>>13958298

Hmm true, it's not going to shine in normal situations. If you somehow engineer their metagame expectations, then it could see a niche in the lategame: you'd train them to expect a Yuzuki or Ripple when they see a face-down card.

Hmm it's tantalising... there is certainly design intent for a face-down defensive deck but either it's not balanced right or we're missing (or unaware of) some components.

>>13943345
lol just noticed, OP made a misstake this Nutaku thread should be #43 not #42, keep that in mind for the next thread guys

>Normal
You can keep doing H all you want, i have better results in N

>>13958773
Is there a point to numbering them anyway?

>>13958777
H sucks, I'll give you that, but for people who aren't Nutaku plebs, there are better options.

>>13958805
i tried DMM's and decided to stick with nutaku's, yes they have tons of units, yes they have tons of better missions, yes they have a lot of cool feautures; but tbh i like how i started from the very begining of nutaku's and see the game develops, instead of the whole content face-punch dmm's has; and the most important thing to me, events

If i play nutaku's, i can do all the events as they come, instead of waiting for revivals in dmm (that are much harder than the original event in rewards)
so yeah, i'll be with nutaku as it develops and eventually get those better maps and events

>>13958844
You'll be with them for a long, long, long time then, because at this rate Nutaku will never catch up. They will get even farther behind

>>13958849
>>13958844
The one thing Nutaku has over DMM is breathing room between events. Non-stop events is great and all, but it tends to cut into my time of grinding my units.

Still, Nutaku gives TOO much breathing room. Although maybe it just seems that way since there's no auto-complete.

>>13958844
You could do 5 events on Nutaku the easy way... or you could do like 40 new events the easy way on DMM in the same timeframe, with like 10 revivals mixed in.

>>13958849
i don't get what the fuzz about catching up, if people want ALL of dmm's content then they should swap to dmm and stop complaining.

catching up is simply impossible because dmm would need to remain still, and not release events/maps for nutaku to catch up, since nutaku's came a lot later than dmm's
OR nutaku would need to skip permanently a lot of events (they are skipping some but they want to put ALL events, just in a different order; they said)

Some people like me know about both versions and enjoy nutaku's more for the same reason as me, you get to see the game develops and you have a chance to do events in their own time, instead of revivals as stated on >>13958844

>>13958877
This is really bullshit, the only events that should take away from your grinding are item farming events, which happen like once every two months or something. If you can't get stronger faster on DMM than on Nutaku, then you're doing it wrong.

>>13958877
to be fair i'm not completely sure if nutaku devs are the ones that decide how often the events happen, but yes it is a lot of time beetween events nevertheless i give you that

>>13958877
>The one thing Nutaku has over DMM is breathing room between events. Non-stop events is great and all, but it tends to cut into my time of grinding my units.
You can, freely, at any given time, decide that you do not want to grind a particular event, and have all the breathing room you want.
Nutaku FORCES you to not do event that could have been going on during that time.

I just got this unit from a roll.

If she good? Not really sure what class she is, has a skull and what appears to be flames for a class icon.

>>13958956
She's a necromancer. She'll summon fodder skeletons that, even if they die, won't affect your ability to 3-star.

My rolls in DMM Aigis have taken a turn for the worst. Keep rolling out silvers. I'm not familiar with this class. What do they do? How should I be using him?

>>13958989
Hmm, she doesn't seem to do that. She has a magic attack, but no summoning.

Man, her Awakened form looks amazing - how stronk is she?

>>13959013
Monks are like rogues that block 2 and usually have fast attacking for their skill instead of assassinate.

>>13959013

That's a monk. Evades like a rogue, but can't insta-kill. Instead, block 2.

>>13959053
That's not her awakened form, but she's pretty strong. Having her awoken is kind of a staple for endgame content.

>>13958773
copy paste ftl

>>13959057 >>13959066
Yeah, just used him in the men's battle and noticed that. Pretty nice. Thanks guys. Wasn't sure if there was some passive skill nonsense or anything special about CC'ing them, etc.

>>13959052
Deploying her adds skeleton tokens to your roster. Her skill lets her attack 3 enemies at once and boosts her attack.

>>13959078
Ahh, I see now. Thanks

2spook

>>13959076
Update: Premium Roll'd another silver. A male archer, no less. Something about this guy make him better than Soma (other than him being an elf)?

>>13959070
Ah, I just got her - I've got a long road to Awaken her.

What makes her so good for endgame content? Something about Rapid shots?

Man, I wish there was a good English language wiki for DMM.

>>13959127
Elfs have shit HP and good stats. But that guy's mostly Spica skill fodder, unless you need a good male archer.

Aww yeah, Castle Retake beaten at level 38, no CCs - thank you, Princess Lilia!

>>13959143
Her 10% triple shot can be a nice little bonus but the main thing is that she's easy to get and adds a lot of firepower at a low cost.

>>13959143
basically a bootleg Nanaly.

>>13958951
Or you could just do the event and spend the crystals you get from clearing it to get even more stamina to farm dailies than you would have had in the first place, all while getting a bunch of rewards from the event itself.

>>13959170
No, Bashira is a bootleg Nanaly. She's a bootleg Victoria. Still, the important thing is that you want an awoken archer for late game, though if you have Nanapy I'm sure you can get by without awakening her.

>tfw completely overwhelmed by the sheer number of spooky skeltals in the third mission of the current event

really rattling my bones

doubtful I can get past it though, still pretty new to this, don't have high level units

>found TWO Dark Airus in a row
>can't handle either of them because I'm a beginner
heh

>>13959503
Just throw elixirs to make them go away. I think they cost 5,000 pero a piece.

>>13959540
It only takes 30 minutes for them to expire, I just kinda wish I could tackle them for mad rewards.

>>13959565
I've been playing it from the beginning and I still can't get anywhere near defeating them. I got an event ticket which had the potential to make it easier, but I drew a normal card instead.
But basically that part of the event is for the people who pay real money.

>Two Cuteries in a row
What the fuck?

>>13958844
> see the game develops
Nutaku is haphazardly jumping back and forth between events and skipping many of them. At this rate they aren't even going to run all of launch events DMM had.
>most important thing to me, events
>instead of waiting for revivals in dmm
You get more revivals in DMM (and dont forget they are running in addition to main events) than ordinary events in Nutaku. We already had Odette 4 times on DMM, for example. Last time was only month ago.
If you want to see all events, DMM is much better choice.

Starting there is tough, as you are overwhelmed by sheer number of events, but once you get your shit together it becomes much more interesting than nutaku, where I have nothing to do for whole month.

>>13959143
>That completely nonsensical outfit
Remember when this game was about a prince, a handful of knights, soldiers, mages and archers, fighting an ancient evil to retake a kingdom?

>>13959842
You mean never?

>>13959857
No, thats not what I mean at all.

>>13959771
The current event gives you the platinum event unit on the first mission, which is pretty generous.

>>13959878
That's normal for farm type event, well starting from this year's I think.

Thoughts on this team? Started very recently, hoping to get all of my units to at least level 15 soon, as that one mission early on with the tons of rogues is giving me trouble.

>>13959842
Look at the earliest female units. Almost all of the female outfits were nonsensical, excluding some of the heavy infantry. Some girls only have breastplates and gauntlets where they should also have greaves, helmets, etc.
This isn't some medieval fantasy shit. It's Japanese style fantasy shit.
Go play a non-H game or if you need H, play The Witcher series, lol.

>>13959913
Phyllis is generally much more useful than Crave but now I'm just thinking about how your necromancer's name, Anies, sounds so much like NES.

>>13959913
Why aren't you using phylis, and you'll be dropping that samurai out of your party very soon, as I did. Useless class.

>>13959913
Started recently too and I have the same Necro girl, ehehe. Let's see, you'll probably need to bring another mage, put Nenya over Cloris or Calliope, and stop putting levels into Cecily.

>>13959934
>>13959940
Alright, I'll switch to Phyllis.

>>13959948
Yeah, the Necro girls ability is pretty nice, can nuke whole crowds. Shame about the short duration, but eh.

And who is Nenya?

Also, I had a free platinum armor in my gift box, and I used it on Cecily, which is why she's so much higher than the rest.

On a side note, how do you get that special stamp card shown on the bottom of the page?

>>13959959
Nenya is the loli witch, she attacks faster than most other witches. And why the hell did you use the plat armor on that? You'll be getting another one so save it so you can get a lvl 40 character to 50 easy with the right fairies, save the next one for Katie or an archer. You can get a different stamp card next month depending on how many SC you used this month.

>>13959948
>>13959959
Am I missing something here? Cecily is only 12,
Actually, She's only 12 despite a plat armor is weird. Actually using a plat at that level is just not needed nor is is it advised for Cecily when you have A platnium archer.

>>13959972
And where exactly do I get Nenya, then? You seemed to be implying that I should have her by now.

And yeah, I figured putting that armor into the platinum archer to help with the early game would be beneficial.

>>13959979
12 is Cecily's cost. She is level 29.

And she is the platinum archer.

>>13959992
No, plat archer is called Bashira. Cecily is silver rogue.

Plat armor + 3 spirits (the only way you EVER use plat armors) gives 8000 exp, which should've leveled Bashira to near 40.

>>13959992
Uh. You mean Bashira?

>>13960006
>>13960008
Yeah, I mean Bashira.

Anyway, alright. If I get more, I'll save them.

>>13959992
I forgot where I got her but I'm sure she is a completion reward somewhere pretty early.

>>13960025
I just checked the wiki. It's one of the missions you do while working to get the gold witch.

>>13959972
Nutaku Needs Nenya Badly! Srsly.
It's like a plot to drive Eng users to DMM or something.

I tried the Android version of Aigis today - butter-smooth. And it doesn't re-download every damn time. And DMM only, of course.

>>13960045
I haven't played on the browser version in months.

>>13959926
Wow, missing a few pieces of armor, surely is comparable to looking like a fucking gundam like >>13959143
You can't be fucking serious.

>>13959972
I know the premium-est stamp card requires 150 SCs, what's the levels for the other two?

Freeby
???
???
150 SCs?

>>13960086
But anon, she was one of the first characters available in the game, and even then, though toned down, she still had that fancy shit going on. >>13959053
I'm not sure what you're on about. Did you start with Nutaku or something? Skill awakening for all characters make them out to be super saiyans. That's kind of the visual appeal aspect.

>>13960086
>stripping off the gear is fine
>having somewhat exaggerated gear is not

You can't be fucking serious.

Man, oasis 2 is so bullshit. I only have like 2 other story missions left to 3* but I still struggle to even 2* oasis 2. Fuck dealing with mummy mages that you can't take down in advance.

>>13960191
Nice straw man fallacy, bro. Well argued.
And that design looks fucking ridiculous too.

>>13960134
>Did you start with Nutaku or something?
Yes, that's kind of the point I was making. Most of the units you start off with are fairly normal looking knights and mages, even a lot of the black units look fairly normal. But they just keep adding more ridiculous looking units it seems, whenever I see a video of MMD Aigis its just a bunch of incredibly over the top, overly colorful, silly designed units that spam the whole screen with fireballs or some bullshit.

>>13960252
Scratch that, I just first tried the 2nd to last mission. It was even easier than I thought.

>>13960358
Oh it's the same guy that complaints about the colorful sprites and Aisha. You can keep playing in Nutaku because you won't see those awakening and skill awakening for a long time and pretend they don't exist.

>>13960100
Freeby
50-99
100-149
150+

>>13960358
If this character design is too over the top for you, maybe you need to go back to playing dark souls or whatever boring western aesthetic shit.

>>13943345
There is nothing worse than getting a silver unit from the Premium Summon

>>13960705
It happens (at least they tell us) 50% of the time, so get used to it. Every two dollars you spend is 1 new silver unit.

>>13960709
I mean $10 you spend.
Which is much sadder when you see it like that.

>>13960714
Sure, if you buy crystals one at a time like a moron.

Just threw away an Arena match I could have easily won by mana exchanging the cards I wanted to summon.
Fuck me I'm retarded.

>>13960756
Which is fine until you remember that unless you're new most golds will be of minimal use to you. At that point the number to consider is $25 per plat/black as that's actually far more relevant.

>>13960802
Except there's nothing in the game that can't be cleared with using nothing higher than golds, so at that point you're best off using your crystals to level your units.

>>13960797

I have done this more than once. Have to be careful with the UI.

>>13960797
I still do this all the time

As well as forgetting to end the attack phase when I have nothing on field

>>13960831
All Nutaku missions can be cleared with maxed out silvers alone. Even at DMM there's not much content that requires awakened units.

>>13960858
I meant 3*ing. And I'm not talking about Nutaku since Nutaku doesn't have any content to talk about.

>>13960836
"Ok, this looks kinda bad. But I can still manage this, I'll summon my Hero Sakura next turn when I have enough mana to use her skill"
Then the next turn rolled around and I turned her into mana.

>>13960831
>>13960858
I can't help but feel buying crystals just to grind exp is kinda crazy.

Hell even with free crystals I'd never use them just to get exp and there aren't more than a few golds I could roll that I'd actually use.

Yes you can clear most things with silvers. Not really sure how that's actually relevant however. Yes you don't need plats, but that doesn't actually make the gold and silvers useful.

I would also point out that something like War of Magic is wildly impractical to clear without an event to farm the Calliopes unless you want to blow crystals. By quick math I'm getting a touch under 30 million gold on average to get and CR sufficiently 3 Calliopes even factoring in the free ones.

>>13961256
>Yes you can clear most things with silvers
>Yes you don't need plats
>but that doesn't actually make the gold and silvers useful

>>13961359
Doesn't make them useful when you've been playing for awhile. As you have nothing worse to replace them with.

And people say Yuzuki is broken. Just one of these cards turn the entire match around and my deck wasn't giving me anything to handle this.

>>13961396
Meanwhile people are still using their awakened Claire, Iris and Bernice.

>>13961417
Yep, that and the other card that increases atk by 500 when attacking/attacked. Least makes it where its not just a stomp on her I suppose.

>>13961421
I had Yuzuki in defense. She could handle the first one, and had to tag team with a few other hitters to take that one out. But then it placed two more. Also fox was face down. The fox Attacked, suicided and powered up the other two Primroses, and now that their attack was that high, Yuzuki, even with her skill, even in defense mode, couldn't win.

Tried again. And the game AGAIN spits that card out before I get anything good.
It has damn 4-5 of them.

>>13961446
sucks, bad luck. She only placed 2 total one after another though first one did get powered up by fox, but I had just managed to get Kira before power up. So next turn with book she had enough to beat her. Then second one was easy as well.

I did lose Kira after that because she placed 2 of the invitation to hell type girl cards. Need to keep them in mind, because I could have used another card to attack first, saving her since only first activated.

>>13961417
She costs 11, by that point you should be able to field stuff that can contest her, especially if she's not levelled up. Yuzuki is broken because she kills 9 cost cards while being 8 cost herself, and then still comes with an additional upside. Primrose is probably a good card and a very solid lategame option, but Yuzuki is way stronger compared to other 8 costers than Primrose is compared to other 11 costers, imho. Also, Primrose needs to be played face up to get value, so you can't really bait opponents into a trap. If you got overwhelmed by 3 primroses, it means you probably neither had solid midgame cards on your field (>1500 atk cards), nor a late game or buff card (which could just kill each primrose in one hit without dying). In that case, you probably would've lost to any 3 late game cards, even if you could've taken down maybe 1 of them by combining all your <1500 atk cards together.

>>13961421
I feel like she's kind of the fixed version of Yuzuki, she's how Yuzuki should've worked. I like the design that she only gets her bonus on her attack value, which means she's actually weak to Decree and is severely affected whenever you want to use her for what isn't her primary purpuse (in Yuzuki's case, atk, in this card's case, defend). If Yuzuki's effect was to gain 500 defense, I think she'd be fine, but by instead lowering enemy atk by 500, she comes with almost no significant downside.

Sure, Yuzuki is weaker when attacking than when defending, but every card is weaker on their weak stat, and Yuzuki, despite concentrating on defense as her main stat, can still kill a card like Framboise when attacking.

>>13960191
>>stripping off the gear is fine
Her skill is called invisible armor and she only gets it when she is in that form.

It's pretty safe to make assumptions there. Either it's actual invisible armor, unlikely, or her skin is harder than armor, pretty likely if you look at her pre awakened form and see she's one of the two armors that aren't covered in heavy armor, and one has divine protection.

just sayin it's got something there and stuck with it the entire time.

>>13961663
How is it invisible if you can see her skin?

>>13961744
If you're referring to the thick skin interpretation, it's because the skin is replacing the role of armour, but that skin is not literally invisible. It would be called "invisible armour" because she has no visible armour, but there's not literally an invisible armour, it's just that her skin is the armour, so she looks fragile, but it's as if she had an invisible armour around her. It's like when you have some anime stuff where someone's ability gets a title like "invisible sword", but it's not actually invisible, his sword is just so fast that you can't see it with your eye or stuff like that. It's a name, names can be metaphors/myths.

If you're referring to the "it's literally actual invisible armour" interpretation of the skill, then you can see the skin because the armour is invisible and therefore can't break the line of sight to her skin, otherwise it would be visible armour.

>>13961808
I'd go with the thick skin too since you can see her gauntlets and greaves, as well as the flying pieces of armor. I guess she learned how to magic somewhere

I feel so happy every time I use Asuka's skill and the target turns out to be a Yuzuki or Ryumei.

>>13961417

Ripple has the same ability but comes out 2 turns faster.

How the fuck do I reach max skill before mincost. Is the last skill still a 5% chance or did they improve it?

>>13962358
Random is random.

The banner says Reanbell's event ends 8/20 10:00, is that am or pm?

>>13962358
I feed 13 copy of her and still stuck at CR-3 , skill 5/10 ;_;

>>13962455
You don't want to know how many copies I fed her. I was just stubborn because I really like her AW picture.

>>13962437
Military time, so AM. Japan time of course.

>>13962492
Thanks, I guess I'll get a couple of more tries to 3* the 5 stam map.

>>13962358
Damn, I usually reach mincost around skill level 4-5.

Should I go for Saki or Spica? I'd like to get both if possible but I doubt I can before they get phased out, so I'm wondering which is better if I had to choose just one.

I already have two 50CC50 silver archers on my team, so I'm thinking Saki, but I don't know.

>>13963256

If you can't think of what use Saki would actually have in your army, go for Spica. 50CC50 Silver archers don't really compare.

>>13963256
Spica first. Several Spicas even, for skillup and CR.

>I already have two 50CC50 silver archers on my team, so I'm thinking Saki, but I don't know.
Sometimes you need more than two, and anyway Spica is very much better than silvers.

Plus Saki is likely going to hang around the tradepost longer.

Is it against the rules to make multiple accounts on dmm.co.jp?

Also, what are the green crystals for?

Oh shit, Arena gave me Flocci. Alright my old LoV comrade, let's see how the AI handles your deck.

Turn 1 (me): Emily
Turn 1.5: nothing
Turn 2: Emily #2
Turn 2.5: Marsha
Turn 3: Okita
Turn 3.5: Decree on Okita, suicide Marsha into Okita
Turn 4: Framboise
Turn 4.5: Lv 55 Jill (1495 Atk)
Turn 5: Book of +300 Atk on Okita, Vanessa, kill Jill with Okita
Turn 5.5: face down
Turn 6: Sakura, Vanessa attacks - revealing Lv 45 Fatima
Turn 6.5: Lv 46 Miyabi
Turn 7: see picture

Respectable deck, AI being dumb is normal.

>>13963741
>Also, what are the green crystals for?
5x to roll gacha in the lower right corner. It's mostly like 2k gacha, but with a higher chance of high rarity units. (Still very small for plat and black, but at least it's something.)

Got this unit, she can switch between being a healer and a mage, with a pretty fast heal/attack speed.

Seems pretty good.

>>13963741
I haven't had problems using multiple accounts. Green crystals are for base+ summons, which are a lot better than base summons but still give you tons of irons and bronzes.

What's a good email service for quickly making emails? I want to reroll for Aigis until I get a black unit.

I was using Gmail but it wants my phone number and I maxed out the amount of emails I can link to it.

>>13963827
You can delete account and remake on same mail.

I used mailinator, but then they banned it.
I went back to russian mail.ru (but registering mail in @bk.ru domain), so you can try that if you googletranslate the labels on everything.

>>13963861
mailinator isn't banned, just reload and try their secondary domains until you find one that works.

then when you get an account that works, change your email.

>>13963878
Well, I tried that for a little bit, but none worked so far so I decided not to bother anymore.

Do assassins have a chance to one-hit kill enemies even when their skill isn't active?

Fairly sure I just seen the last quarter of an ogre's HP disappear in one hit by my Cypria, which is a lot more than she usually hits for

>>13963769
Don't reveal his deck man!

How is he gonna spook people with Miyabi now?

>>13963769
For some reason the AI loves using decree without any reason. Many times it used decree without anything summoned on their side.

>>13963256
> before they get phased out
Saki is going to stay forever. Spica is going to come back some time later.
Content of trade post is limited to 1 black and several plats, and rotates through them, so you aren't going to miss any of them.

>>13964021
No w/out skill

Is Reanbell serviceable at 2 CR and 1 SU? I think I could level one to 50 easy since I still have a couple I could do a 2 fodder 2 fairy combine and have maybe a useful plat. Or should I just level Viera? Or both? Now that I think about it, what are sailors good for anyway?

>>13964681
They're pretty strong after awakening since they do heavy aoe damage. Other than that, I guess you can maybe use them the way the puppetmaster is used here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxyxpxUqZ5A

>>13961417
Primrose is awful, she's competing in a spot where characters regularly clock in 300-500 more stats than her.

They're adding a unit that gives 3%/6%(AW) increased drop rate for gold/plat armors. Too bad it's a black.

>>13965587
That sucks. Why did put drop rate increase on blacks.

>>13965587
Any pics? Bandits have always been pretty cute.

>>13965615
Wait until you hear about the fact that there are Blacks that 3x/7x the Platinum Event Unit drop rate on Gold Rush maps.

>>13965617
Looks like its this girl

>>13965685
I see, ahaha, the plat bandits are cuter, that sucks.

I think I'm gonna burn all my crystals for her.

>>13965731
You'll get a few dozen back over the next few weeks anyway. I'd almost rather have the plat bandit that increases fairy drop rates, though.

>tfw feel like you should quit Aigis but also feel like you're too deep in the rabbit hole since you've invested quite a lot of time and a bit of money in it

>>13965697
Cuter, sure. But there is something to be said for the buff girls too.
That neko axe and the fur is a tad bit silly for such a serious looking girl though.

>>13965776
To me she looks like what Themis could have been if she was raised by mountain bandits.

>>13965772
>tfw someone quit aigis on ulmf and was giving his account away and I wasn't early enough to have been the one to inherit it.

>>13965772
>>13965794
I started dmm aigis a few weeks ago and I feel so behind that I feel like giving up. Seems like everyone is so high leveled with nice units.

She looks cute now

DMM Aigis has been on maintenance for quite a while now... Update today or something?

>>13965802
That's just what happens if you stay on DMM. People are silly to think that they can raise their units better on Nutaku while Aigis has events where you can get black armors and 150k exp fairies.

>>13965802
I started dmm the day those 2 free SC started and I'm having fun, maybe because I'm too used to nutaku where there's nothing going on.

>>13965807
Yep, happens like once a week.

>>13965805

>>13965809
>>13965814
Not that guy, but honestly my biggest concern is the sheer number of black units you'll probably never get because they are gated behind the RNG of the premium summons.

Still a problem on Nutaku, obviously, and likely a bigger one with less opportunities to get SC, but yeah.

>>13965825
I stoppd caring about the premium blacks, just have fun with the event units. Gloria is awesome.

>>13965805
She looks like she lost a bet and now wishes ground would just swallow her up.

>>13965805
Well, it looks cuter than the first one, but maybe... >>13965823
Still would like to have her.

>>13965825
So you'd rather everyone have access to all units? That would be boring as fuck.

>>13965853
How so? For all intents and purposes, this is a singleplayer game.

Bragging about having cool units is nice and all, I'm sure, but it's hardly a core part of the game. And there's no PVP either, as far as I know.

That being said, I'm fine with things taking effort or time to achieve, I just think there are a rather limited number of opportunities to obtain those units in particular, which combined with the RNG creates a situation where a lot of units may simply be out of reach for many players.

>>13965881
The point of the game is to make money. Now pay up for those blacks.

>>13965881
I agree with you somewhat. But either way it doesn't matter, because this is the free to play model, as said by >>13965893
The money has to roll in from somewhere. Aigis is gentler with it than PeroPero and others.

>>13965881
It's not that bad compared to some of the other dmm games.

I mean I tried the asagi battle arena and it has a 1% odds for the rarest gatcha. On top of that event rewards only go to the top 2000 players and events are pretty much just whoever can spam the most potions.

>>13965881
Why do you need to have every unit? What does being single player have to do with that?

Literally nobody would care about Aigis if you could farm any unit you wanted.

>>13965893
I'd actually be willing to consider that if the RNG numbers didn't lead me to conclude that money invested in premium summons may very well lead to no black units at all.

I imagine myself, and most people for that matter, would be very salty if they spent money in the realm of 50-100$ on the very costly premium currency and didn't get something worthwhile.

>>13965587
They're also adding skill awakening for bandits.

>>13965897
Yes, they need to make money, that much is obvious. Not disputing that.

I'm just speaking on what I think would be more ideal, not necessarily what makes the most sense for DMM.

>>13965910
If said units required time and effort to achieve, rather than just RNG, I think more people would care about Aigis, not less.

I'm not saying that every unit should be easy to obtain, and many of them could remain quite difficult to obtain, I'm just saying that there shouldn't be a point that you have to conclude that a large number of units simply may be off the table altogether.

In other words, it could be simplified as me wishing that there were alternative methods to obtain the units, even if they were difficult or time consuming.

Ultimately though, it's true that there is a steady stream of SC from stamp cards, events, and other stuff. This means that, strictly speaking, you won't run out of opportunities to try for black units as long as DMM is making new content, but still, unless you're lucky, the timeframe for obtaining one, let alone attempting to collect most or all of them, would be considerable.

Whatever though, just wanted to voice my concerns about how many units most people will potentially never obtain in any reasonable amount of time. Didn't really want to start a huge debate over it.

Although, I'm not really sure, just how many premium only black units are there?

Is there anything more powerful than Amna for the 3 point range? I've got mine heavily upgraded, she's great if you go second since you can play her immediately and her great attack value which is complimented by a decent skill means she's got a lot of utility for early game. I'm just curious if there's anyone better that I'm overlooking.

>>13965910
What if you could sometimes pick what you want? Say there's a pool of 30 blacks and you get to occasionally pick one. If I could pick any and all units in Aigis, I'd only want say ~25% of them. At the very least, don't give a flying fuck about 50% of them.

>>13965981
>attempting to collect
You'd have to be insane(ly rich) if you do this, with new units added like every week.

http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%A5%D6%A5%E9%A5%C3%A5%AF
marked = event

>>13966076
*star marked

I love how easy Angelic Saga is, the beginner deck is more than enough to get you punching hard and I've been getting great cards so my deck is ridiculous now.

>>13966076
It's more like 1 or 2 a month.

>>13965988
As far as i can see in http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Angelic-Saga
nope, nothing that outright beats Amna in the 3 drop range

So, is she any good? Wanted to get the spririt bandit, got her instead

>>13966399
Hey, she's definitely something, all I got for my 20 crystals was a CR for my Gina. Kikyou's ability is amazing, and she's like the only miko who can actually be effective in her dual role.

That premium lineup at DMM is very alluring, I almost bought 10000 points.
Is it first time they didn't add any main event?

>>13965988
> a lot of utility for early game

The earlygame ends on turn 3. With the right starting hand, an Amna may give you a significant edge to getting first board control, but you'd better back it up.

>>13966503
It happens once in a while. Still, good chance to farm revival crystals now, I was too busy with main events to farm many earlier.

The new black's skill awakening gives 2x hp and attack, defense goes to 0, and then it cuts the cost of bandits in half. That sounds hilariously exploitable.

>>13966399
I always wanted her just because of her design, but like the other anon said she's the easiest miko to use and she has a great AW skill. Also gives 3x drop rate on gold rush plats.

>>13965697
I think you are missing her character theme, she is Gyaru. Not cute but I guess they want to keep some uniqueness to the 3.14 bandits.

>>13966772
>>13966445

Thanks. I guess I also have a new target for Rainbow Faries then.Man, months ago I was just throwing affection and levels items at random and now I'm like 5 units behind.

Bashira, Kanon, Berdinett (or whatever you spell that dark priest), Rachel, Reanbell and now also Kikyou.

On the other hand on nutaku I'm affection clearing my last female unit. Ded version is ded

>randomly got 200 demon crystals on dmm
>meanwhile nutaku has nothing
What the hell is wrong with them

>>13967560
That was a reward for reaching milestone in subjugation event, it wasn't random.

>>13967560
160, not 200. Because lazy fuckers with awakened units didn't reach milestone fast enough.

Don't forget to reclaim your Bashira, everyone.

>>13967560
>>13967581
>>13967603
Wait... Holy shit I got crystals. Just when I was agonizing over getting Bashira or Spica. I have the crystals for both! Well, almost.

>>13967646
Spica is going to return several months later. Bashira is one-time thing. Obvious choice.

What does the DMM update mean by "One-Time Trade Per User Until September 3rd."?

>>13967897
Exactly what it says. You can buy only one copy and only before sept 3.

When should I CR silver units?

Specifically, got 2 silver CCd healers, three L1 silver healers - plat healers only need one healer to CC, so should I keep the 3 around or use it to improve my CCd units?

>>13967897
The changed freebie unit from Kerry to Bashira. Now everybody gets to purchase one Bashira for a low DC price to compensate everybody who already missed that.

>>13968008
When you have like 10 of them and you aren't going to do awakening anytime soon.

>>13968008
The only time you want to CR a unit is if you can farm it or you need it for something like War of Magic. 2 CCd silver healers is too few for some maps (Immortal Beast, for an example, requires 4) and you want to have some backup in case you'll need them for CCing something else.

>>13968008
Usually, when I get atleast 4-5 of the same unit, I use atleast one for CR.
Except Archers, because fuck, everything uses them.

>>13968041
I wish I could roll some silver archers. The game wants to shower me in assassins and soldiers.
I just want to CC my Spica, game.

When looking for new pic to use, found >>13965685 >>13965805 porn already lol

also, new thread
>>13968081

>>13968028
>Immortal Beast, for an example, requires 4)
I managed to 3 star with just 3, one cc70, one cc40, one cc42.

Not really hard if you have one strong armor and one high hp unit with magic resist. Two healers up top, one at the third placement on the right, then drop an armor on the top right, let it eat a few hits then drop mr unit top left. None of your soft units units get put in danger and the liches are split 1/2.

It's dealing with all the other shit that gets vomited out just before the liches come thats difficult.

>>13968087
I too did it with 3 healers as well, but one of them was a plat and another a gold and looking at those levels, i'm pretty sure you too had at least one higher rarity in there. Remember that silvers have considerably worse stats and their max level is 50.

Personally I never had any throuble with the waves before the liches as I have good mages and armors.

>>13968142
plat/gold/silver in that order, silver was mincost with 4 skill though.

I only really have one good armor. Got a mage armor, anya, and a dark knight but they're all very expensive so they aren't too usable with my armor, so I'm using soldiers as makeshift armor till I can get some silvers to cc others.

I'm always drawn in by weird units and go for them instead.