/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>playing dmm
>cc freebie Bashira and Soma
>0 fodder silvers archers left
>buy Spica with crystals from subjugation
>get Claire from gacha
>still have Daniela, a male elf and some japanese-looking lady archers sitting at 50
Why can't I hold all these archers

>>13968454
2 CC archers and 3 level 50? What the hell were you doing?

What's the average affection per stam for phalanx 2 again? 1.19 was it?

>>13968481
grinding oasis and not having any ideas about my team
I also CCed Katie, Iris, Leanne, Cloris and Barbastroff so its not like my team is completely bonkers, but I really overdid it on archers

So on Tuesday I ran a test to see if Aigis Nutaku even reads people's messages
I sent them the usual "I'm vexed the event isn't out" blah blah blah
But then I ended it saying
>But you are probably having a rough day because a lot of people are complaining, so here's a video of a tiny hamster eating tiny burritos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOCtdw9FG-s

Got a message back Wednesday.
>They actually watched it

What was the last thing the Nutaku devs said about Aigis?

This is getting really ridiculous. Seeing people talk about their DMM accounts getting tons of cool shit with updates and units and features every week or so is making me butthurt.

I mean, what was the last thing the devs even said about the update? Was it really just the news post?

I don't even want to swap over to DMM out of pure bitterness.

>>13968834
That kinda makes me glad I dropped it around the dragon princess event.

>>13968810
I chuckled.

>>13968834
The last thing I remember was Nutakudev answering a bunch of questions with the usual over at ulmf. Not sure if there was anything new. There was also that thing about us supposedly writing tickets so aigis devs would give us more content faster or something.
Also, join us at dmm, anon. You know you want to. I've been there for over a week now and you can do both easy.

>>13968834
Its worth to at least register DMM account right now and just login once a day to get free SCs. You will regret it later if you don't do it.

Do I get anything special for filling out an entire login stamp card?

>>13968866
I read this and decided to go over and make an account on DMM
Now I regret doing it because seeing the comparison, I feel a lot worst about Nutaku being behind than I was before.
>Free crystals
>Free Bashira
>Updated Graphics
>Runs like a dream

>>13969259
No

>>13968501
Don't worry anon, I'm sure you'll get some vampire slayers eventually and then have an even larger surplus of archers.

I now have 197 Demon Crystals and 15 hours to go.

Today is a Spica kind of a day.

>>13969954
With Spica and Bashira, who even needs Nanaly?

>>13969965

>>13968084

Links to new catbandit images?
I hate to admit it, but I'm thinking about dropping some cash on DMM to try to get her.

>>13969985
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=52086395
were on first page as I started searching for an image to use for op lol

seems that from the boss of area 15 (and I assume onwards) the rare card fodder turns into a hr fodder card.

AS: from Event quest 15 onwards, the stamina cost is rising again.

>>13968834

I know the feeling. But I decided it was about time I let Aigis go as there were other games competing for my time.

Fuck yeah Conrad, you showed that lich who's boss.

Time to move on to throwing myself headfirst at Immortal Beast.

>>13970211
well that went well. time to buff Olivie and invest in some more healers.

>>13968482
http://aigis.dougax.net/drop/quest.php

>>13968482
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Challenge_Quests
Can't speak for accuracy, but some guy here said it was 1.683

>>13968081
What a wonderful choice in artwork anon. Anya FTW

>>13968810
Is it wrong to think that this video was incredibly cute?

What good are bishops and magic fencers? Got the silver males for each.

>>13970726
The bishop dude isn't so bad, he's kinda like a mage, but with slightly higher range and his skill heals nearby allies. Fencers aren't very useful in my opinion but they work similarly to ninjas except with magic damage while their skill is up or something.

New LoV valks now detailed on harem-battle.club

Behold Hana's 4M skill dmg: 49635

>>13970402
No, that's why I picked that video.

i could get saki right now but i have to save my demon crystals for awakening fairies

feels

>>13968081
How do I get DMM to work?
I already set up a Japanese proxy due to their xenophobia but I can't get any of the games to work

>>13971953
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_Proxy_Connection

This needs to be in the OP or something.

>>13971953
>>13971985

You don't even need that I don't think, all you need to do is click on JP language again in dmm.co.jp when you get the dumb Nutaku message and it should work, I haven't needed to use the cookies thing or a VPN.

>>13972094
You need it for the all ages version though, and some events are all-ages exclusive.

>>13972109

There's all-ages exclusive events? Damn, I didn't know that lol.

>>13972190
They are rare. Last one was for anniversary of all-ages version.

Got both Spica and Bashira today, but have only 3 spare silver archers. Which one should be CCed first?

>>13972255
I like Spica more for her lower cost, but Bashira has more to gain from CC since her skill changes.

Actually, forgot that Kazuha is archer too. If I sacrifice my level 40 not yet CCed Daniela (I have CC50 Furi and CC50 Soma, so I didn't use her anyway), I can CC both Bashira and Spica.

>>13972379
Yeah, go for it. I have no regrets about having fed off my CC Daniela.

>>13968081
test

>>13972379
>>13972431
yeah i did the same with a cc'd soma to cc my spica, totally worth it

>>13968081
How do I open my suitcases in PeroPero?
I keep on clicking them in the DMM but nothing happens

>>13972674
You can't, you can only open your friends and your friends can only open yours.

Just rolled this black. Seems she lowers deployment costs? Is this black any good?

Just rolled this black. Seems she lowers deployment costs? Is this black any good?

>>13973384
She's kinda like a hybrid soldier-samurai. She'll lower costs by 2 once you CC her, and with awakening she attacks everyone she blocks at once. Her skill lets her block and attack one extra unit and raises her atk/def.

>An Error Occured
>Application Error
Nutaku is dead

>>13974046
Clear your cache.

>>13974046

Had that 30 minutes ago, it's fine now.

>>13974046
I'm getting that as well and I already tried what is said here >>13974072
Reading what this post said >>13974086 perhaps they are doing maintenance and it is going server by server?
The game will work given enough refreshes, at least.

>>13974146
Seems to have gotten back to normal now, for me.

Oh man! For the first time ever I've rolled a black that was featured in the premium summon picture. I wanted her so much. Best Aigis moment yet for me.
I didn't notice those tanlines before. Nice.

I'm looking at the first linked japanese wiki for Aigis and I see in the revival event drop section (or whatever the one with the Cleopatra like lady on it is) that the first drop of the first map is a unit, but the box is red.
Does this mean that the drop is rare?

>>13974346
Colors denote gender. Red — female, blue — male, yellow — misc.

>>13974362
Thank you very much. I guess that makes sense and I should've realized that sooner.
I wish I knew what the drop statistics for that unit is since I've ran the map many times now and have yet to get it. Hopefully I'm not overlooking something.

>>13974397
General rule is that the less complex map the less are drop rates. Do at least 5 stamina maps if you want silvers.

>>13974402
Very true. I guess I'll try to get my beginning team ranked up before the end of it and try another map, though she is the only one who I don't have of those available through that event and this is the only map to get her in, through this event.
Oh well, she's just a silver, afterall.

Finally have a decent number of CC'ed units for the necessary classes. Now I'm planning to balance increasing their affection and getting enough revival crystals for Noel. Is that a good idea? One thing that plagues in Nutaku is that I don't have any mage above silver so maybe it's my frustration making me want her but I'd have to do the easier maps which I imagine isn't very efficient stamina wise. I'm also planning to get a priest warrior from the trading post after seeing some vids the put them to good use, the Reanbell event also made it look to me like ranged unit space is a premium in dmm events. Should I CC Cloris or one witch is enough? What do you guys think? I'm also sitting on a lot of SC which I plan to use when all of that free 60 SC is given, should I just wait for that to see what I can build on?

>>13974422
>I'm also planning to get a priest warrior from the trading post
I don't know, I think you should focus on your actual team first. At least I don't remember touching my warr priest at all when I was around your level. You're gonna need lots of gold when you grind Oasis.

>>13974471
Yeah, I've been needing to alternate between Oasis and Dragon Hunting more as a unit approaches lvl 50. I was thinking I could skip leveling units for a bit to get a warrior priest but yeah, it doesn't seem like a good idea now.

what a nice surprise from the RNGoddess

>Still no message about the Aigis event
I'm drowning in gold and platinum spirits here.

>>13974912
They better do something big like three events in a row and introduce the auto-complete feature imo. Nutaku Aigis has taken a really huge hit with this delay plus the huge difference in compensation between them and the dmm version.

>>13974912
The devs don't seem to give a shit so might as well migrate to DMM, at least for the time being. I don't know if I'm going to stick with the game for long as it feels wrong to play it at all while they fuck Nutaku over.

>>13974263
Hate you with the green fire of a thousand jealous suns

Grats

>>13974933
We all know they're not going to do anything special. It's going to be the standard 2-3 week break once Odette event ends...
...assuming it even starts next week...

What's the 90 stamina daily on DMM Aigis right now? And are they related to the top one that cost a lot of stamina in the crystal daily?

>>13975936
Charisma you mean. It's the daily for getting skill awakening fairies. You can only use awoken characters and the prince on it.

>>13976085
Ah okay, is that the same one that was in the demon crystal daily, the topmost map?

>>13976129
It is the top map. The bottom one is the awakening orb farming daily, which is much easier, they can generally be cleared with a team of mostly CC silvers.

Ok Fire Resort gacha, here we go:

- Kai
- Miu
- Marin
- Hana
- Cecil (5th)
- Coo (3rd)
- Aries (2nd)
- Miu
- Hana (!!)
- Miu

I came for a 4th of Kagura and got my 3rd Hana instead... I get more login proofs tomorrow!

AS Arena: AI summons a Lv 70 Sakura. I +300 Atk my Lv 45 Sakura and beat her. Then a Lv 90 Miyabi comes out. Suicide a 6 drop and trample over with Sakura to win.

This is why a turn 3 Decree is one of the worst possible moves the AI can do.

Ooh a rematch with Flocci in Arena! Even had the feel of aggro vs mid-range: I'm putting down two 1200+ Atk bodies, AI is putting down fatties.

>>13976331
>fatties

This isn't fat, it's a healthy, well levelled body! None of my girls are fat... well, except Miyabi maybe.

>>13977059

As a matter of fact, Miyabi did show up. As did various other well-nurtured girls.

I'm assuming the reason why anyone would ever use Olivie is because she can avoid damage for about 15 seconds because otherwise she's dead.
Is she a Karma sub for stalling?

>>13968081
is their site still anti loli?

>>13977723
She can be used like Karma against physical attacks, yes. Her attack is very high and awakening gives her an actual decent amount of HP to work with. Despite her low HP, her amazing magic resist and defense make her usable. One of her main appeals is her ability that gives -1 cost and +5 magic resistance to all elves and dwarves.

>>13977723
She is the worst black ever. Why did I have to get her when there's so many amazing black units I could have got.

wide fanart is wide

http://blog-imgs-75-origin.fc2.com/a/b/k/abk00/20150519192928b19.jpg

>>13977771
She's probably the 3rd best melee gacha black on Nutaku. The real problem is how much stronger ranged units are than melee units in this game.

>>13977791
>http://blog-imgs-75-origin.fc2.com/a/b/k/abk00/20150519192928b19.jpg
needs more Conrad

>>13977771
>She is the worst black ever.
>When we have Liana in the gacha

>>13978422
Liana is great... for what should be a farmable unit.

>Oh boy, event map 16 complete in AS
>Time to spin that ticket
>+300 attack to fire crystal

Thanks

>>13978533
Were you expecting something useful?

>>13978533
Almost as bad as my Foot Soldier Okita, almost.

>>13978555
I was hoping for it, I'm severely lacking good cards and these tickets keep being a let down.

Did anyone here get a HR or higher from normal gacha?

>>13979195
Just one.

Got my hopes up for such a...

I mean, she's not that bad, but I already have a Chloe with high skill and low cost..so it's a bit...useless.

>>13979277
Her teamwide healing is great though.

>>13979195
I got a Sylvie once, nothing higher than an HR though.

>>13979285
20 health per second, it's alright but not really worth throwing her down just for that.

>>13979277
Sh'w two time better than Chloe. Why are complain

Why does this card exist?
It costs more than that fountain card and you have to sacrifice a specific elemental card from your hand.

>>13979533
That's pretty bad. They'll buff it later, probably. I don't think there are any cards with effects having to do with being discarded yet, are there?

>>13979546
There is, a card that allows you to summon the last fire girl discarded.

>>13979558
Discarded or used for mana? If the former, then I guess that Sacrificial Pyre card does have use, if not extremely gimmicky and unlikely to execute.

>>13979577
Not sure but it has an 11 cost so I dunno how it'll work. Look for a card named Flame Rekindled.

>>13968081
So, is Oniwaka supposed to be remotely challenging at any point? I just dominated Stage 9 Oniwaka without losing a single HP or character, there's only one left (plus a bonus stage) so I'm getting kinda concerned with the lack of difficulty. It doesn't ramp up THAT hard, does it?

>>13979615
Haven't had much difficulty myself but there have been some posts about losing in stage 16 because of the leveled SR cards, namely Victorie and Primrose I think.

>>13979615
She starts playing level 50s at 16

>>13979626
>>13979634
By Stage 9 I actually mean Stage 45, Subdue the Warrior of fire - 9

>>13979604
I have them both, the discard is the best though.

Slightly conditional, but basically if you have Miyabi or Sylvie it can rez them and allow them to immediately act.

Sac Pyre is garbage (should be 0 mana), but the rez is fantastic.

>>13979640
Like summoning them with haste?

All of these scarlet stones are starting to piss me off, can I do anything to burn them/get rid of them?

>>13979649
Yep. For 1 less mana too.

>>13979650
Used up mine upgrading Sylvies and Asukas. Asuka is a pretty good card imo.

>>13979615
>>13979626
Stages 1-10 are easy. Once you reach around 13-16 things get harder. AI stupidness is used to your disadvantage, Suiciding foxes that buff up primroses that can't be damaged by anything less than 1500. Suiciding Oniwakas that end your next turn. Cards that destroy your attacking or facedown cards.

>>13979688
>suiciding foxes buffing primroses
I don't think this'd be an issue if you just obtained field dominance. That's really all the game comes down to with the one turn attack delay- you gain dominance of the field and you've more or less won.

>>13979639
>Subdue the Warrior of fire - 9

Get to "Subdue the Warrior of fire - 16" and the possibility of losing distinctly exists.

>>13979840
>it actually goes up to 16
I swore I read somewhere that is was 10 levels and a bonus, what is going on.

>>13979848
10 levels last week, then 10 more and a bonus this week.

>>13979706
Primrose can cause problems for people who don't run a lot of higher atk characters. 1950 ATK with Ripple's skill is hard to deal with if you don't have someone like Sakura on the field by 11 mana turn.

>>13979856
>I'm still struggling (with energy) through the first 10 levels
Guess I'm not actually finishing this event
Is there at least a significant reward for clearing Stage 10?

>>13979871
You get Onikawa

>>13979871
You get an Oniwaka.

>>13979871
Yeah, Oniwaka. You get another one for beating 20 but at this point getting there would cost money.

Meanwhile on DMM, their water event takes only 5 stamina at level 9.

>>13979886
Even with the free energy drinks?

>>13979903
Depending on how many you have and what level you are it might be possible, but I think someone said the stamina cost increases again at level 16 so I don't know. Doesn't seem likely.

>>13979923
Increases to 11 at area 15 and won't be surprised if it increases to 12 at area 19/20

Already have a CC70 Spica and a CC22 Saki.
Should I get Akane or save for a second Spica?

Does anyone read the summaries of cards in the card album in Angelic Saga? Furthermore, does anyone read the ones that aren't of girls? Some of them paint an interesting picture of the world of Angelic Saga. There are many sub-plots. Kind of fun to read them all.
Banish's card for instance: Gatekeeper: 'In order to eliminate all conflict, Light Town has a policy of turning away ruffians and ex-convicts. If you still want to enter, you must join Light Town's Poster Girl Clarissa's Fan Club first.'

This one is kind of cool too:
Duped by a Demon: Summoned from the underworld through some experiment and faced with soldiers who were ready to take it down, this demon took control of all their senses and made its escape. After escaping, and taking on the form of a woman, it went into the service as a steward to some noble family.
Refering to Butler Noelle!
Butler Noelle: A butler well-educated in all aspects of her craft--grace, culture, martial arts, cuisine--and working in the service of the aristocracy of a certain country. Her demeanor is soft and extremely humble, but toward her master she has quite the acid tongue. Her true identity is...resident of the netherworld, summoned during a certain experiment. She has a thing for younger men.

>>13979976
I just noticed the summaries change depending on the evolution of the card.

>>13978606
>I'm severely lacking good cards

If you just need good bodies, it's surprising how many Bread & Butter cards are N or R. Higher rarity bodies are statted to need a hella lot of feeding to compete.

>>13979992
Yeah, I ended up fully upgrading the kigurumi girl just so I could see her costume change and use her as my favorite, but also to read her summaries.
Sadly, her summaries are just okay. She belongs to a clan that dresses as animals and then fights as that animal. She wears costumes of "gentle and well-behaved animals" (a bear is gentle?) and she is rumored to "actually have a nice body when the clothing comes off." They highlight that last bit in all three cards. "Having mastered her techniques, she's now lauded in many circles as the 'Actress'. As the rumors about her nice body have spread, she's been getting requests to shoot a swimsuit layout, but she always refuses."
They refer to many of these girls by special names. The 'Actress' the 'Swordswoman', etc. Seems to play into a bigger plots most of the time.

One last card:
All For One: The Divine Sword was sent into isolated helplessness by way of an enemy trick during a climactic battle. As the Divine Sword was ready to accept her fate, an arrow came to pierce through her enemy. It was then that the Archer Princess, together with the Strategist appeared. The Divine Sword was truly and deeply thankful for the bonds she formed with these friends of the battlefield.
But the cards shows four hands...oh well.

>>13979944
Akane is useless.

>>13976209

Continued:
- Seraph
- Mei Yo (5th)
- Hana (4th)
- Coo (4th)
- Kagura (4th)
- Teresa
- Seraph (3rd)
- Kai
- Marin

I should stop rolling this gacha now. More chance of getting duplicates now that I've got 4 copies of many girls.

>>13979976
>>13980074
Go figure, Fizzle literally spells out what it does.

This one was also... something.
>Known as the Drop of Life, this medicine was developed by a certain alchemist to heal injuries and sickness in mere moments, and though it sold like madness the alchemist never revealed their recipe. Likely because one of the ingredients was the sweat of a local towngirl he had a thing for...

If that's referring to Clarissa... She's sure in a lot of these.

>>13979195
No, sort of related to that though, does premium captcha level effect weather you can actually get HR and over? I never seem to get anything good out of them even though they are premium.

>>13980337
Perhaps Clarissa should've been in the Nutaku tournament instead of Natalie. Though, she might be too cute for a game site mascot.

There is only one girl so far that mentions promiscuity, First Mate Mary: "She boasts that she's got a man in every port." Maybe her final upgrade will reveal that she is actually bluffing? Her conversations also has her talking about it.

>>13980381
Premium gacha (lol captcha) = no N cards. That's it. Higher levels only guaranteed one SR at level 2, or one SSR at level 3, if I'm not mistaken. But you could get an SR/SSR with single rolls or at level 1.

>>13980337
I like how the summary of Fizzle gives you a hint for how it should be used.

>>13979513
Because my CC'd Chloe is 8/10 with a cost of 16, and 100% affection.

In comparison to Chloe, at max cc she just has 140 more attack, 300 more hp, and 44 more defense, for costing 2 more and going back to 1/10, including the cost for affection and leveling.

I have far better things to do than slightly upgrade my angel I already only use situationally. With getting Spica and Bashira, awakening a healer, having everything but 50 DC from awakening Claire, and pretty close to skill awakening Dina, there's just no room to fit Sophie in any time soon.

As such she's a black that is instantly benched for a long period of time.

AS: ok, when your deck never gives you a playable body by turn 3, you know you're in trouble. Match came down to 81 vs 32 life. Still won in the end, but that's just AI stupidity.

What do you guys do about inventory space in LoV? I always seem to be running out, and storage and extra inventory can only be bought with gold.

Thought experiment: how hard is it to get a 4-of SR from the event gacha?

Suppose there is an 80% to roll an SR. There are 12 different SRs in the event gacha. With worst possible spread of luck, you'd have a 3-of of every single SR and no 4-of. That's 36 SR drops, which is 45 total rolls.

45 x 8 = 360 login proofs = 72 days

So, 2 months of login proofs would have guaranteed you'd have at least 1 4-of SR no matter how bad your luck. Add elemental spotlights to skew the odds and it probably isn't unreasonable to get a 4-of SR or few from a month of login proofs. Chance that the 4-of you get is of an actually good SR is another matter.

The important takeaway is that this isn't the only event gacha in LoV's roster. There will be others and in JP they repeat annually. I'm not sure if I'll ever roll the standard card lotto again.

>>13981787

That is the secret moneymaker of LoV. "We'll give you all this stuff for free if you keep logging in! You don't have to pay! Oh but if you want to actually keep what we give you, then you have to pay." They give you all these overpriced deals on premium gacha and such to make the low price of storage look like a good deal.

If you absolutely won't (or can't) pay Nutaku, then you'll have to be very strict about which cards to keep and what you'll use expeditions for. Then you will agonize each major event when a bunch of new cards enter - throw away the 4M you worked hard for because she's now inferior?

>>13979944
Skip Akane, save for the next rotation of the 200 DC slot unless you really don't have a second good archer.

>>13981985
But you're supposed to get a 2nd Spica for cost reduction. Everyone has another archer, since Bashira is free!

>>13982074
Not for the poor bastards on nutaku.

>>13982089
I actually have a Nutaku Bashira from Premium Gacha.

Imagine how chuffed I was to find out all DMM players get her, and Iris, and some platinum sailor bitch, and 2 plat armors.

On a related note, anyone know how long DMM Aigis premium summon specials are going to stick around?

>>13982209
Usually until the next event or maintenence. which is the 27th in Japan,

>>13982209
I'd guess another 4 days, but the same black will probably be in the next rotation too.

Anyone else having trouble accessing games on Nutaku?

AS is failing entirely, Aigis is slow as fuck. Haven't tested others.

>>13982579
Had it. It's either up now, or clearing the cache fixed it.

So.. I'm wondering. Who should I awaken first? Katie or Iris? I'm leaning toward Iris since a healer is never a bad thing. But Katie seems good too. I could just wait and work on Cloris enough to awaken her, But still.

>>13982938
Let me piggyback off that - should I CC Nenya or Cloris first?

Does anyone know if someone has/is/plans to translate the DMM Aigis all age version conversations for the girls?

How many points should I save up to 10x AS? I'm thinking 10k and grab 50 cards. They'll probably all be garbage but that is besides the point.

>>13983533
Probably depends on how many slots you have left in your card album, I only have about 20 I think so I can usually just do the 10x gacha twice before having to do something with the new cards.

>>13983533
I'm confused. Why not just spend the 2000 as you get them?

>>13983572
I like to burst through cards so I can look back and say "Hey I actually got something"
I just burnt 6000 and got a single new card, a Fountain of Truth or whatever.
The other 29 cards ended up as level fodder.

>>13983576
Fair enough. Yesterday I got 2 copies of a rare card I didn't have before in one 10x gacha.
So I guess do as >>13983567 said.
Best of luck to you!

>>13982938
>>13983397
>Not awakening your waifu first
Get out.

>>13983397
Afaik Nenya's dps is higher until Cloris AW, and given that she's cheaper, you might wanna go for Nenya first.

I was weak, /jp/. But somehow I got more gold and above than silver from the gacha - repeats removed and all but one silver removed.

Betty's awakening seems pretty cool - if I had got Celia instead of Lyla, it would have been a full sweep of item gathering plus characters.

What's the weirdass angel good for? Other than freaking out futa haters.

Any other standouts?

Hmm, to hope for Celia or save the last SCs for next month to get the better stampcard for next month - decisions, decisions.

>>13983963
Oh wow that male being a healer is pretty funny considering how rough he looks.
I am new to the DMM version, so sadly I don't know much about the units.
The angel is sort of strange in that it remains inactive (enemies will pass right by it) until you activate its skill. Kind of gimmicky, haven't bothered, but maybe someone more seasoned would know best in how to use him.
Gold soldier (Julian, is it?) is decent in the Nutaku version, but maybe there is a better choice in the DMM. And you probably already know Fedora (gold healer) which increases healing range instead of healing power.
Clueless about the rest except for the gold barbarian, which was pretty good before I switched to the black one that you just got. Gift boosts for her are pretty good.

>>13983780
That's kinda hard to do as I don't have one for Aigis.

>>13983963
Angels are good for times where you want to block certain enemies in a mob but let others pass by. They don't attack until their skill is activated. Otherwise, enemies just pass through them. If you know how a map is, you'll probably be able to find a use for them, like against a boss,
They can be pretty strong. But I haven't found much use for them yet, mostly because I've been focusing on other units.

>>13984012
You should see the male healer's awoken form.

Am I supposed to use Sacred Crystals for inventory expansion? The number of unit slots seems low.

>>13984282
Yes, and save some for stam/cha refills for events.

>>13984012
Angels are useful to tank magic-damage enemies like liches and necromancers.

>>13984282
Yes, its very good idea to max out your slots and buy second barrack on DMM, as you get units at very high rate and run out of space fast.

Man, I really have way too much money in AS.
I wish there was something you could burn it on other than upgrading, maybe let us buy cards up to Rare with cash?

>>13984333
I used to have a lot of money but for some reason I'm down to about 40k. I didn't even notice where it all went.

>>13984305
>>13984102
Ah, thanks for the tips about angels.

>>13984276
Just looked it up. Holy shit, that was funny. No one out there heals with as much manliness than him.

>>13984012
Angels are an end-game investment for the most part. Even though their stats are insane, they literally do nothing until your activate their skill. So they're pretty shit except as "lightning rods" to tank to enemy mages. That is, until you get their Skill Level up.

At level 1 it's 15 second Duration with 24 second CD. Which means the Angel is only active ~31% of the time max. So 69% of the time the Angel is just sitting there doing nothing.

At level 10 it's 30 second Duration with 15 second CD which means your Angel is now up ~67% of the time (over double compared to level 1).

>>13984340
You use it when leveling up your cards.

>>13984397
Still, angels are a class that everyone should eventually get a CC'd one of, much like divine armors.

Why are all the CGs in Aegis so fugly? Does DMM not pay their artists enough?

>>13984522
Divine armors?

>>13984604
Paying artists more doesn't make them more competent. Aegis started out as a cheap game that didn't really matter, but lately they've been hiring some pretty good artists for some characters.

>>13984632
The armor/healer hybrids.

>>13983963
Lyla gets gold per kills when awoken as well as Betty, and it's also missing female affection items plus - there's a treasure hunter gold female unit that grants that.

>>13983963
How much did you spend?
I'm considering buying some SCs for this black, but no idea how much I need to pay to get her with certainty.

>>13984662
You can't get any black with certainty if you're concerned about how much it will cost. You have a somewhat decent chance if you buy a 150 SC pack though.

>>13984685
... 150 SC pack.

She was also the only black I got, and I went and spent the last 20 SCs and only got one more gold. Could have really used a better archer than Stray, or a witch or two, so I'm a little regretting it. I'm really heavy on melee and healers now.

On the other hand, her awoken skill of 2x attack and HP and half-price bandits sounds pretty fun, but it's going to be a long time before I'm awakening her.

>>13984715
But don't you have Bashira?

>>13984850
I do have Bashira, just meant wanted some more ranged damage options than the elf bishop and Stray, and I can't farm enough for Spica this go round.

I guess there's the gold pirate too, but I wasn't impressed by her on Nutaku, so I'm not holding out much hope for her on DMM, beyond her DC bonus.

If I'm just starting out in Aegis, which units should I max affection first? Haven't done any draws.

>>13984942
Bashira, healers, witches.

>>13984633
Too bad they aren't spending any $ on the game itself. It's as basic and bare-bones as ever.

>>13985070
What exactly are you expecting? They've made massive improvements in the last few months.

What are those different stamp cards on DMM Aigis? They have stuff like black spirits and exp armors there

>>13985141
You get different stamp cards for the month based on how many SCs you spent the month before.

The levels go:
0-49: Filthy peasant stampcard
50-99: Thrifty and wise stampcard
100-149: Baby whale stampcard
150+: Blue whale stampcard

If you look at the red bar of the stampcard, it'll tell you how many more you need to spend to get to the next level.

>>13985158
The red bar at the top right? There's also one at the bottom

>>13985213
There is indeed a red bar on the bottom. That is not the bar I refer to.

That's something about the time period the stamp card's good for, or something. Look at the top bar for the number in front of 個.

If I save up 11 premium tickets in angelic saga, do I get to roll the 11 roll gacha or am I still stuck with the single rolls?

Wasted 40 or so stamina throwing my Belinda and Calliope at WoM.
Finally get a run where I deploy them at the right times so they attack the right stuff.

And I get this.

>>13986110
Still singles.

>>13986121
I have had that problem happen to me many times. Did you try clicking ok and waiting a little? Usually fixes it and continues on to the drop screen like nothing had happened for me.

>>13986189
I waited, but I kept just getting error 400. Wasting stamina on nutaku isn't a big deal anyway and at least I know I can do it without the +5UP.

>>13986121
What's your guide?

>>13986218
Used some strategy some guy posted on hongfire. He says it works with a 16 Belinda and 11 Calliope, but mine are 15 and 10 and it isn't anywhere near 100%.

You need to place Belinda asap and then place the Calliope on the right a little after she's deployable(~1-2seconds) so she won't waste attacks on the wolves that are going to get by anyway.

>>13986246
Forgot to mention but you need to use Belinda's skill as soon as it's up. If you're attacks work out she'll kill the last wolf just as it's about to leave her range.

So I have a silver vampire hunter girl in DMM Aigis. Is she worth leveling and how do I use a vampire hunter anyways? (Never got the chance to get one during the Karma event.)

>>13986385
Yes, she is one of the best silver units in the game.
Place them in the vital spots that enemies have to pass by and watch them wreck shit. They are best agains low armored units and combined with dancers.

>>13986408
Thanks for the advice. I seem to have pretty good luck with DMM, as opposed to Nutaku. It's a sign, perhaps.

>>13986417
You can buy her with gold and silver in trade post, and she's also awarded as completion bonus for story maps, so its not like she's rare.

>>13986385
Yes, she's really good.

>>13986455
Oh, well then. At least when I eventually CR and boost her skills, I'll need one less unit. New question though. Is gold gramps mage any good?
>>13986469
Thanks!

LoV question now:
Should I keep saving my lottery miles? Will they be adding higher ranks to the lot?

>>13986482
Nevermind, answered my own question. They'll add SSRs to the batch eventually, judging by the Japanese wiki.

These drop rates are cool. Maybe should spend some SC to stock up plats.

>>13986517
Do it, and then spend more tomorrow to use up those plats.

>>13986488

They've already added SSRs. Both the usual card lottery and the event gacha have them. Note that some are disguised as Rs at first (R -> SR+ -> SSR++).

So your real question is "do I want 4-ofs from this event gacha, a future event gacha or the usual card lottery?"

Let's take a look at these SSRs in the usual card lottery:

Mea
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%cc%b4%b8%b8%a4%ce%a5%e1%a5%a2
4M: 23564 / 30924 @ 38%

Aion
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%bb%fe%b6%f5%bf%c0%a5%a2%a5%a4%a5%aa%a1%bc%a5%f3
4M: 20049 / 40336 @ 33%

Sherry
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%b1%ca%cc%eb%a4%ce%c9%b1%a5%b7%a5%a7%a5%ea%a1%bc
4M: 18444 / 43073 @ 35%

Carmilla
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%b0%c7%cc%eb%a4%ce%b2%a6%a5%ab%a5%df%a1%bc%a5%e9
4M: 21663 / 37175 @ 30%


I've posted similar listings for the current event gacha on harem-battle.club:

> http://harem-battle.club/lord-of-valkyrie/171-special-training-event.html
> http://harem-battle.club/lord-of-valkyrie/111-summer-resort-event.html

None of them can match Chocola when she decides to be serious (23% skill proc).

Damn, I just wanted a better bandit than Conrad and I got Clissa. Is there a worse black?

>>13987214
Clissa isn't half bad once awakened and since you play on DMM it should be only a matter of time

>>13987256
I guess by the time I would awaken her I'd probably be strong enough for the skill awakening daily, but her skill seems incredibly lackluster until then. I'm wondering what to do for the skill awakening daily actually, after I get another awoken healer and soldier it sounds vaguely doable.

Got my Oniwaka and set her as Secretary, she's P cute. Worth burning the free energy drinks to grab her, although her anemic attack for a 9 cost is kinda sad. I realize she's just meant to stop the enemy from killing your other cards but it would be neat if she could do some damage herself.

>>13987477

She can if you dump so much EXP fodder into her that she hits Lv 70+. Not a worthy investment unless you have nothing else to pump.

Claire and Roberto any good?

>>13987898
Yes.

In AS no surprise area 19 stamina increases again to 12

>>13987898
Claire is great, Roberto's attack is kinda low but he costs less than a normal Gold Healer and his HP is very high.

Anyone played Everlasting Summer? Surprisingly fun, never thought I'd like such kind of stuff. Would be grateful if someone could recommend a similar game.

>>13988171
Katawa Shoujo.

>>13988171
Katawa Shoujo

>>13988171
Saya no Uta.

So why does AS have such a garbage login bonus with such a slow energy regen? If it wasn't for unlimited Arena the game would be pretty unenjoyable.
One gacha ticket a day was good, but now I need to wait an entire week for my next gacha ticket? Cmon.

>>13988340

Compare it to Aigis, not LoV - you only need a single copy of a good high rarity card and it's worthy once you EXP grind it. LoV demands you get 4 copies of anything to be worthwhile - so of course they give away free rolls to keep free players interested.

Similarly, the energy regen is slower because you don't have to grind a card 7 times over. Get a good card, grind it ONCE and you've got a solid addition to your portfolio. LoV wants you to do that 7 times (4M) to get something worth using.

And finally, it's a mistake to think Ns and Rs aren't worth your time.

Thanks rng goods

>>13989134
This is 1.5x drop rate for dailies week, after all.

>>13987079
That was pretty informative, thank you. But, I was talking about Lottery Miles, not lottery gold, as seen by the post I made here right above it. >>13986482
I might keep rolling Summer gatcha anyways, because I am already deep in it and am bad about giving up (not to mention I want to get 4 of Cecil, dat bikini)
I need to get past the Chocola stage boss. Still grinding for that. Almost there, I think.

>>13988375
Hey, I'm of the opinion that with a card game like AS it really doesn't matter how rare or leveled your cards are- with enough skill and a bit of luck a well constructed deck can overcome anything.
It'd still be nice to get something consistent for logging in though.

>>13989828
Levels are actually very important, much more so than card rarity imo. It will take you a hell lot more skill and luck if your cards are greatly out leveled by your opponent's.

>>13988375
>And finally, it's a mistake to think Ns and Rs aren't worth your time.
And how. You really should be judging by cost and skills.

>>13989828
>>13989850
Right on Levels. But I see the other guys point too. Things like Skills, Magic and trap cards can overcome levels.Like Mizuki's skill, or Invitation to Hell, or so.

>>13989871
Yeah but the way he says it is misleading because levels very much matter and are close to importance to skill and deck construction. If your girls are out leveled by 30 or 40 then even with superior skill you'd likely lose much more than you'd win.

>>13989907

There's also the issue of how high rarity cards need a lot more EXP to get to their design point. Devs only think about max level stats, but we can't level SR or SSR cards to max easily at all.

>>13988185
>>13988194
Thanks, anons.

So what's the difference between the 5 and 10 stamina material quests?

>>13990720
Cards have two upgrades, different mats for each.

>>13990720
higher tier rewards

tier one gives droplets/stones with chance of witch brew

tier 2 gives essences/crystals with chance for philosopher's stone

I hope Odette event won't kick off tomorrow just yet, I fear my team is not ready.

Jokes aside, I'm not sure which unit black unit I should get to 80 next. Thought about Saki, but her cost makes her kind of meh.

>>13990853
You'll have plenty of time to decide when it doesn't start and we get another week with zero communication.

>>13990853
Saki will get a free -3 cost in a later patch. And then pretty sure she gets another free -2 from Awakening.

>beat the stage 16 Oniwaka
>get ticket
>all right time to get another useless R on the gacha
I aint even mad

>>13990928
4 tickets all r , did get a second occult obliteration I guess but pretty underwhelming for me tbh

>>13991035
>>13990928
I got outta 3 tickets I got: 2 normal rares I had sets to, and Flame Rekindled, the biggest/best fire card I have is 1 copy framboise and onikawa so this card is fucking useless if I can't reliably be able to pitch big fat red cards early in the game and cheat them out later through Flame Rekindled.

>>13991075
least eventually down the line if you keep going you might have use for it

Post decks

So its been month w/out events on nutaku aigis, and no signs of getting event this week either. Devs are silent on usual forums.
RIP?

>>13991129
My deck is pretty standard.
>>13991144
Might as well be, even if they put out an event then, if they stay on a one event a month course then they might as well throw in the towel imo so everyone can cut their losses early.

trying to have decent mid range and then end game cards

>>13991129
Why the orbs, anon?

I can't help but spend all my resources on my high cost waifus
Gacha won't spit out anything good in low ranges

>>13991129
There isn't any real deck building in this game. Just throwing in whatever is strongest.

>>13991129

"Aggro" deck, great for mashing through Arena quickly.

Still some pretty bad stuff in here that needs replacing. A chunk of it is just low level cards with decent base stats that don't need a lot of exp to be useful, so they're a temporary replacement until I have levelled something else. Probably levelling another Anne next for my 8 slot.

New PeroPero event up.

>>13991235
Still got an hour of maintenance here.

>>13991235
Well, it was for all of a minute? Strangest thing ever.

>>13991242
Yeah, no idea how I got in there. So it looks like it's like the last event, but the focus isn't on defeating bosses but on collecting boquets from Chance slots and then getting to the next level after collecting enough boquets, but again, you can't proceed until you picked the right door through another chance time. There are also briefcases that can be opened by your friends in PeroPero, which will contain items.
The Pero Glasses and Radar are usable now (I had two of each from earlier)

>>13991256
There are still bosses you run into and have to be defeated (I think in order to proceed?). Again, I was in there for all of a minute. Pero Glasses work as reveal cards (so I guess you can't use reveal cards in this event?)

>>13991260
>>13991256
Bouquets, even. Knew there was something wrong with how I spelt it. So yeah, and there are more cards, as expected. But I think you may be able to unlock some of them with those briefcases, as the key I got was a "pink key" (color of normal rarity). So perhaps that's some added RNG for cards. I guess we'll find out soon.
I'm just glad that I saved up some of those puddings and peromanin (or whatever it was called).

>>13991331
I've been dicking around, got 3 pink cases and a gold key.

Opening a case means you get the items inside, not your friend.
RIP.

>>13991386
Spoke too soon, I got an SR 3 x 1 but on closer inspection he got a Peronamin Half out of it too. That's nice.

>>13991389
Yeah, this event I like much more than the last one. I imagine it won't be all that tough to reach level 200 to get that special card, as long as RNG doesn't screw you out of it.

>>13990866
Yep, and then another -1 when you buy another Saki to feed her!

>>13991129

My deck. I keep getting stuff that lets me do direct damage to enemy life points so I just kinda rolled with it.

Rank 64 right now.
What are the odds I stay in the ranking? I think I'd be fine with slipping a bit, as long as I stay above 300 or so and get the SR card.

Spirit rescue god tier is pretty easy if you do the 2* method. Time to cash in some plats.

>>13987477
She has like a gazillion weapons on her, yet deals no damage. I guess most of them are for show and she doesn't actually know how to use them.

>>13991505
What is that magic card next to framboise? (7th card), never seen it before.

>>13991556
Banishment.
It's an Invitation to Hell for cards over 2000 ATK, BUT instead of outright destroying them it simply returns them to the owner's hand.

>>13991562 >>13991556
Especially useful when the enemy card is one that builds up attack (or was given it via magic cards).
Also, this image captcha seems super into waffles today.

I recommend spamming normal gatcha for PeroPero as there are two event cards in there which multiplies your bouquet gain.

>>13991581
Just realized that you need 50,000 bouquets to get one of the cards. Fuck me.

>>13991629
we'll see if its worse than 200 floors or not
my guess is you'll get that before 200 floors

>>13991652
I'm already on level 40. I have only about 500 bouquets, so I don't know. Though, the stamina needed increases every once in a while, so you may be right.

>>13991666
yeah started late so only at 19 though I have more stamina just waiting little on focus.

I just figure at some point the floors will start taking a lot, combined with missing the O which I have already done a couple of times.

Time will tell I suppose.

>>13991670
Yeah, thankfully some of the cases of mine that some have opened have given me puddings and peronamins.

>>13991674
Yeah on that front I have near 100 of everything but wish I would have known the bouquet chance would be so low, would have used more glasses, could have had around 200 more. Dislike that the radars are autoused as well.

>>13991681
You can turn off the radars by click on the icon again. It's an on/off switch. But yeah, I accidentally burned a few myself that way.
I use the glasses when they show the pictures, because there is a chance for 100 bouquets on those.

I hope people on facebook start rioting if we don't get an event tomorrow

>>13991696
ah didn't know thanks

also its based on steps, steps being percent chance

if it says 5 steps then its 100 percent chance for sr, each step is 20 percent so you can gauge when to use glasses

I popped open the Gacha list and there are two cards, one with Alpha and one with Beta
Do they have any significance?

>>13991712
alphas give bigger bonuses than betas

free wise you can only get the 2 normals, but better than usual so try to get those before making big progress in the gambit.

>>13991714
I got the beta uprising girl because I thought she looked cute, I'll see if I can nab the Alpha too.

>>13991723
Good, as it ends up giving you 1.44 multiplier, which rounds up to 1.5 a lot of the time (all the time? not sure) when you get bouquets.

Seem to be getting some radars from the cases too. No glasses yet though.

>>13991741
yeah someone opened a silver of mine and got 5 radar, I was like yeess more radars then forgot and realized I don't get that lol. Got like 3k pero instead lol

pink keys giving rare gacha tickets

first gold key, whoo something nice
use... a rare gacha ticket

so mean lol

>>13991546

They're so heavy that they weigh her down. Same with the heavy armor. She kind of reminds me of Joxer the Mighty.

seems that a sr is in the silver (and maybe other) case(s) Got her on my second silver key.

>>13991884
Damn. Hopefully I get luckier then. Does it add multiplier?

>captcha asks me to select burritos
>only one, pick it
>try again
>click subway sandwich and it says ok
God damn it.

>>13991891
lol nice and no, doesn't add multiplier

I asked someone I saw with it before I got and he said he got 2, one from him opening and one of his own that was opened. So the chances are a little because of that.

Right after asking I got it too, was pretty funny. Also captcha just showed a picture of a street sign and asked me to pick the block that had the actual sign in it. First time seeing that.

yeah ok

>>13991908
Oh okay, thanks. I just hope that the second half of this event doesn't get stupid, like the last one.

Yeah, I got that captcha earlier as well.

How're you guys doing on bouquets? Seems like the rate is way too low, I've gone through several stamina bars w/o a single chance roll.

>>13992564
I have about 2,500. A far cry from 50,000, but I am currently not using the radars I'm building, so who knows how much I'd have after using them.

>>13992564
>Bouqets

got this from premium summon is she any good?

>>13992665
Dancers are quite good lategame, but since all they do is buff other units, they need strong units to back up. They're especially exploitable in certain combos, like boosting rapid fire low damage physical attacks like gattling gun.

>>13992693
*coff*vampirehunters*cof*

>>13992838
Even regular archers do great with an attack boost. But dancers also boost defense, so they're great for beefing up an armor too.

Whats a good unit for first awakening? My only black is Farune, all plats are freebies/recent event rewards, and my gold rolls were Barbastroff, Dorothy, Claire, thief Leda, and druid Laurier

Man I'm garbage at this game, didn't pay attention to my hero and got shit on by some stragglers.
There goes my 3 star.

>>13992891
Claire/Bashira are great choices, an awoken archer is very useful. Farune is great too though, her cost increases on awakening, but that's to make up for her ability changing to healing everyone even when her skill isn't active. Other than that, an armor or healer would be a strong choice.

>>13992891
Anything you can manage.

Archers get the most out of it as a class but if you can do one awakening day and not the other, or don't have the units for it, just awaken anything you can.

There isn't a single unit that doesn't greatly benefit from awakening.

>>13992978
Sure there are. There's not much point in awakening Julian, and without skill awakening, Stray is almost worse after awakening.

>>13993008
Julian still gets big stat boosts and a 20% chance to do x1.8 damage for costing no extra.

Stray has his niche as a massive ranged archer, used to be the only one before Nanaly buff. There's some maps where that's really useful.

>>13993041
Yeah but it's very rare that you actually need a soldier to have higher stats, and certainly not much in attack. Stray pretty much becomes a low damage pirate though, except his skill awakening makes him pretty good.

Stage 20 Oniwaka...

2100 Atk 9 drop (Oniwaka)
2500 Atk 11 drop (Primrose)
2300 Def 9 drop (Hotaru)
1600 Atk 6 drop (Ibuki)
1150 Atk 4 drop (Theresa)
1800 Atk 7 drop (Chihaya)

Most distressingly, the 2~4 drops shut down my earlygame so hard I had nothing for the superior 9 drops.

>>13993183
I'm almost done with 19 but there's not quite enough time left for me to finish unless I use 1 energy drink. Don't think ssr fodder and some fire mats and gacha points are worth the energy drink. Did pretty well since only used a few drinks total to get to there.

>>13993183
Did you try getting good? None of those sound like a real threat to me and I've got a pretty shit decent.

>>13993201

While the HR fodder throughout all of stage 20 is nice, yeah it's not worth the drinks to reach this point. Final Oniwaka is a true test of "are you a maximus whale?" When a 4 drop shuts down your 6 drops, a 7 drop beats your 9 drop and Oniwaka beats your 12 drop... then you know what whale levels look like.

Primrose and Ripple have the same "can't be damaged by 1500- Atk" skill. We thought Ripple was superior because she comes out 2 turns earlier. No, maximised Primrose is despair incarnate as she's all but guaranteed to eat (at least) 2 cards. That feel of mashing a 9 drop SR into her maw just so Sakura could kill her... when you are behind on board.

>>13993254

Individually they're not bad. But the mana curve looks different to what a human player would have invested in. If you can't wrestle for board on turn 2 (against 1150 Atk), you lose.

>>13993328
I can outplay 1150 on 5MP, cutting it close with 4MP but still doable.

>>13993328

Lucked into a win. So it really came down to 2 factors: hope the AI gets screwed out of their curve and hope I land a Candella. Spells and traps let a tiny board presence stick.

>>13993378

> I can outplay 1150 on 5MP

Which means 500 Atk Angie has killed your 5 drop after the AI threw Theresa into it. Next turn, you're facing a 1600 body and a 500 body.

Soo, what if we don't get Odette Event by tomorrow?

>>13993481
Move on? We can't do anything anyway and Nutaku doesn't seem to care anymore.

>>13993481
angry support tickets

nutaku hasn't said a word about the event being either delayed or up for tomorrow so another week with no event (keep grinding)

>Started playing Aigis DMM
>Sour how vastly superior it is
>Monday, may as well hammer out golden armors for Nutaku
>Get 4 Platinum Armors
I think they want me to stay.

>>13993533
ofc they want us to keep playing, but right now it seems they dont give a fuck about the comunity; not even a word about the event and it's been almost a fucking month...

>>13993533
Same here, I even forgot about the monday daily and still got 3. But who am I going to use them for? Conrad? I still need witches to pass War of Magic.

>>13993533
I was playing for months and only had a few golds so I gave up. I really don't like the random draw system.

>whales with 84,000 bouquets
>my rank just keeps falling
help me

>>13993642
On a totally unrelated note, why is a whale called a whale?

>>13993642
Just drop peropero if you are not willing to spend buck. Its game for whales to compete in spending.

>>13993642
Just try to maintain top 1k, the prizes aren't that much different for a large part until top 100 where you get an extra card reveal.

>>13993682
Not sure why they started but its because there are small fishes that spend none then bigger fishes that some some but not that much. Then whales that spend tons, just follows that rhythm.

>>13993550
Yea, going silent on the issue is never a good thing. Atleast a few updates on the situation, however sparse, would be much better. But ignoring and sidelining the issue, atleast from our viewpoint, isn't very smart.

>>13993694
I see, thanks!

>>13993701
Thing is, if they are to be believed, they don't know any more than we do. Just checked there twitter and they are saying that the devs are unwilling to say a date.

I understand that they only really translate and maintain, but they need to get a pair of balls and be agressive in there dealings with them. It won't work otherwise and the game will just continue to die (people say its already dead, I don't really believe this, there are plenty of people still, maybe not here, that play and enjoy it but that will only last so long at its current rate.)

>>13993733
I hope they trying to make it seem like they shouldn't be blamed for anything when they seemingly put themselves in a position where they have no power over anything at all. They should have at least gotten some sort of guarantee from dmm to deliver a certain level of service or face consequences. It feels to me liked they begged dmm to let them have Aigis at really shit conditions just to have that big game. When the players became disgruntled, they resorted to spamming that they can't do anything about it and wanted us to just be patient. When that stopped working, they have nothing else.

>>13993763
Aigis is one of the most profitable games of a multi-billion dollar corporation while Nutaku until like 3 months ago was fucking nobody. I seriously believe that they had to grovel and kiss ass none stop to even be considered as a candidate for a game like Aigis.

>>13993791
Pathetic isn't it? But I still think they could have gotten themselves in a slightly better position considering they've been pretty incompetent in a lot of other things, they could have been the same during the dealings. They should have a change in management or something.

How much $ do you need to spend on 1 game to be considered a whale? I've mistakenly spent 100$ on Aigis. Never again. Colossal waste of money. Just as time spent is a huge waste.

>>13993940
Probably more along the lines of how much money during a certain period. For example, spending 20 bucks a month or something.

>>13993940
For a game like Aigis? In consideration of the fact that it costs $5 per premium roll at base (unless you spend a bunch at once), I would something like, either more than $40 a month, or $250+ total.

>>13993481
Anyone who cares about Aigis switched to DMM.

>>13993940
Generally speaking for online games it's in the area of 1-2k USD per month. Perhaps a touch less over a long span of time where the total is still 5 figures. Normally it's around the area where some companies will start tracking you as individual in an effort to analyze and retain you. You could argue the numbers are lower for games where it's not terribly useful or practical to spend that amount. I feel in practice however normally such games, being non whale focused, simply have few whales.

>>13993972
>>13993981
Errr fairly sure that's mid range spending anons.
If that was considered a whaling ARPPU wouldn't be even close to high enough to keep all but a tiny fraction of games viable.

>>13993940
I spend like 80 euro, total. I'm feeling exactly the same way as you right now.

>>13993481
I'll give up
I haven't missed a single log in since I started playing but I just can't cope with this anymore. I'm drowning in affection items, spirits and plat armor with nothing that I want to spend them on. There is no content left any more. At this point I think I'll probably end up completing odette's event in a single day too (seeing how my team is) and the it'll be another month before anything new is there to do.
It's depressing really.

>>13994279
>completing odette's event in a single day too
So you don't understand even basics of events yet claim that you playing from the start? Try being more realistic when making up shit.

Are they going to bring back tournaments in Angelica Saga at any point?

>>13994504
I hope so. But perhaps they will find it too costly to pay for the servers necessary to make that happen. Would cripple their game though.

>>13993682
The term apparently originated in the Poker scene where people are referred to with sea metaphors, so they call casual players "fish" and experienced players who prey on them "sharks", and a whale is someone who's willing to bet huge amounts of money.

The term then was adopted by casinos to refer to the rare few players who spend absolutely mind boggingly high numbers and can often, by themself, make up a major chunk of the casino's income for the night. To put it into perspective, these players are so sought after that casinos try their best to offer them free luxury suites and cater to their every wish because every single second they stay at your casino is important.

And from there I think, the concept of being a specific type of player sought after by companies and who by themself make up a large amount of the income, was adopted into the language of micro transaction games.

Pero just turned into a pink box opening competition.

>>13994504

In principle they're trying again today (hence maintenance). Whether they succeed is another matter.

>>13994224

Probably best to distinguish true whales ("I'm going to roll until I min-cost Nanaly") and baby whales ("I-I'll just roll 10 times and hope I get something good").

>>13995219
What time does maintenance end?

>>13995228

It was scheduled to be 30 minutes ago. But you know the drill, it will always run over for an unknown time.

>>13995228
Originally it said it'd be one hour, but who knows. On the Notice tab though, they mention an added main quest (Arrival of the Goddess) and they also say as >>13995219 did, the tournaments are back.

>>13995246
>>13995252
Oh yeah, the usual. Hope we get access to tournaments longer this time.

Q&A session for Angelic Saga.

http://angelicsaga.chatango.com/

Since I'll be heading off to work, if anyone wants to suggest something from this post (which Nordland still hasn't gotten around to, for whatever goddamn reason) and post the response here, I'd appreciate it. And possibly others too.

http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=702464&postcount=181

Biggest question I have is probably the edited cards. At this point, I doubt they'd rollback the premium ticket glitch, and the login mission issue doesn't seem to be a problem anymore.

Angelic Saga Q&A

http://angelicsaga.chatango.com/

>>13995323>>13995324
Spam them about aigis. Yet another fucking week without event, what the hell. If they aren't planning to develop it further, they should say so, keeping silent just makes whole nutaku look like scam.

>>13995341
No one seems to be asking anything or I just can't see them?

>>13995349
All chat now

Hmm, reading the JP wiki for LoV: while you will be seeing the current event gacha again later on (revival gacha), expect a different summer resort gacha next year. In other words, you can still get the girls in this year's summer gacha but not while also trying to get the next year's.

>>13994299
>Try being more realistic
he can use crystals to restore stamina & charisma and complete it in less than an hour

>>13995439
Nope, you cannot do hundred runs in less than hour.

>>13995442
What's a hundred runs gotta do with simply 3 starring every event?

>>13995448
Odette is a farming event.

AS maintenance is over. New premium gacha, new story mission, tournaments return.

>>13995457
1st battle and my opponent looks like he already got dc'ed at turn 2.

>>13995459
Leaderboards have been reset to ensure everyone has an even playing field.
If you're experiencing any issues with the feature, please contact the Nutaku team either on the Dev Chat or via support ticket.

A.K.A. if it doesn't work this time, well, too bad, we're keeping it up.

>>13995455
Still has nothing to do with three-starring the maps.

Holy shit does the new story mission take a lot of stamina. Blew about 200 into it and only a little over half way through stage 1.

>>13995468
Well, my RP points aren't back to normal...what?

>>13995473
And three-starring has nothing to do with discussion we had.

Got a Mizuki off the new gacha.

>>13995477

Well, unlike events it's going to stay around as "something to do when there's nowhere else to spend sta".

>nutaku redesigned the login page
>it now has an Aigis character in the background
>Aigis still not updated
Is this some sort of a joke?

Man, I'm getting murdered in tournament. Drawing nothing but high costs at the start, nothing but low costs when in deep, never getting the utility cards I want.
Where do I buy better luck?

Tournaments seem stable so far. Played 4 games with no problems

I lost a match but my ranking went up, hah.

>>13995562
It has been stable for me as well.

>>13995538
I've lost less than I've won, thankfully. Some people are worse than the AI. Had a guy buff a character with that +300 attack book spell and then run the character into mine and he lost by 60 attack points.
At least most people give up when they know they aren't going to win (had a guy stall as long as possible despite there being no way for him to win at that point).

>>13995760
tfw when you had a match where you stalled as long as possible hoping to get two books of awakening for Onyx.

>Manage to beat some dudes max level saber clone
>He summons max She-Ogre Miyabi

Just kill me already

>>13995770
I summon max level She-Ogre Miyabi as well, what a beast (looks surprisingly good with white hair, too). I don't own that Saber clone though. Would've been funny if we had fought each other.

>>13995768
You probably had some chance, but in my match, I at that point had my Miyabi up to 3200 attack and rising each turn and he had practically no cards in his hand.

>>13995770
I don't have a lot of trouble with Miyabis and Sabers but those high level foot soldier Okitas really get me, all my losses have at least one of those buggers summoned. Maybe because my mid game is anchored by Asukas and Framboises.

I think I'll stop playing tournament for now. Let the whales rise higher (I assume you don't get put against someone with much higher RP than you.)
I'm just glad they fixed the kinks in the system. I am trying to decide what card I should strive to get from the medal turn in. Maybe the Ex-Invitation to Hell to wipe high attack cards?

Currently at like 8 wins 10 losses
I play like I'm mentally disabled, holy shit

>>13995869
Protip: If you haven't disabled the sound yet in the game, do so. The constant beeping of the timer makes you more nervous and likely to make a mistake (at least for me, it did).

>>13995923
But it helps you know that it's your turn when you're doing something else.

Dead Game

;_;

>>13995938
You mean Aigis?

>>13995934
Multitasking is just asking to overlook something.

>>13995986
Yeah, my first loss was because I passed my first mana exchange phase, heh.

Q&A recap:

Q: *various suggestions*
A: We'll relay those to the dev team. No guarantee if they'll do it.

Q: Balance patch when?
A: Later, probably months later.

Q: What do with fat piles of money?
A: In theory, endgame upgrades for endgame rarities should drain that. We'll think about adding other ways to spend it though.

Q: The premium ticket fubar in the last event?
A: Our mistake. We won't roll back accounts because of it though.

Q: Why loli boobjobs for non-H characters?
A: Company policy on aesthetic criteria. Can't give details. Are aware some players prefer loli. Trying to diversify what we offer. There are future titles exempt from reworks. For others, yes we are aware of the possibility to just remove H CGs while leaving lolis intact for gameplay.
(The exact quote: "without going into too much detail, cards need to meet a specific set of requirements aesthetically speaking, so some may need changes and some may not. It's company policy but we're looking to offer a wider range of visuals to users")

Q: SR / SSR drop chances from normal gacha?
A: Can't reveal details.

Q: AS events are hella-stamina intensive!
A: Yes, that's staying. But we're considering campaigns/bundles and such to help you out.

Q: How often are events planned?
A: 1 week break between events, events last 2 weeks.

Q: When will tournament end?
A: This "season" ends in a week. Seasons are back-to-back so you can always tournament anytime. Future ones may be longer.

NB: tournament stability definitely improved
Q: I'm still dropping in tournaments!
A: Tell us your ID (look under your username in Profiles) and we'll investigate. We're watching our servers to further improve. Meantime, clear cache and refresh page.

Q: I'm being matched up against uber whales all the time!
A: Give the MMR system some time to sort itself out

Q: Gacha is too expensive!
A: Future limited gacha may have lower prices to roll.

Q: Is there board wipe in this game?
A: Rookie Hustler Shalif

>>13996054
Thanks, anon. Pretty much told me what I already expected for a lot of it, but nice to see it confirmed.

is it viable trying to beef up a HA to reliably tank mummies? I think they work like avengers, so once they go low hp they easily oneshot all of my melee units, the fat mummies are especially bad
Is it reasonably possible, or should I just focus on ranged units?

>>13996092
So that's why those things hit Leanne so hard, I thought Leanne was just being soft as usual. Some Nasu videos show him using high level HAs to tank mummies, but he probably uses max aff'ed ones.

>>13996054
Much appreciated, anon. I'd add more to the list, but typing on a phone is a pain.

>>13996054
>A: Company policy on aesthetic criteria.

I call the highest level of bullshit. Too inconsistent between titles and some characters aren't even "loli" before they get boob jobs, again with no H-scenes involved. If there really is a policy, it's a completely unestablished one because there's clearly no unifying criteria.

>>13996054
Ok so apart from:

> Our fault, won't roll back accounts.

Absolutely nothing interesting.

>>13996092
You don't tank mummies. Maybe some awakened units can do it, but otherwise you drop HA on them when they are full-health to kill rest of enemies while mummy is stalled and rough them down a bit, then retreat and kill them with archers/pirates/canoneers.
Maxed out HA, Prince and bandits can take one hit from dying mummy, but you need to calculate carefully to make sure you take it out before second hit.

>>13995498
The 'discussion' you supposedly claim to have is that you assume that >>13994279 (me) doesn't know what he is talking about. Well sir, when you assume, you make an ass out of u and me. In this case, mostly you. I'm aware that odette's event is the same kind as maribel, and of course I'm talking about three starring each map when talking about completing the event. Ya know, completing the actual new content, not grinding it all day every day.
In other worse, the other poster you were talking about was right, and you were just being a fucktard.

Maribel's event was fine, it actually followed up the previous event pretty quickly and only ran for a week. This event we've been waiting for for over a month, and won't even be terrible exciting because it'll just be about grinding a unit into perfection so we can use her for ???
All those other exicting events that will take weeks to show up? Yeah, fuck. I give up. I'm not going through another week of dragon hunting and phalanx 2

>>13996054
>tournament stability definitely improved

Further line from Nutaku:

"we've been keeping a close eye on Tournament Servers since maintenance concluded. They seem to be running at optimal parameters but it's still rather early to tell. So far as we can tell, the bulk of disconnects encountered can be tied to local network instability. That is to say, spikes in packet loss, jitter or latency. You can test these on pingtest.net You can try updating your Adobe Flash Player to the latest version to ensure your mitigate the risk of unwanted dropps. Chrome and Firefox are the recommended browsers with Firefox currently being the most stable. We'll continue to keep a close eye on Tournaments to ensure you guys can have fun with the feature with as little disruption as possible "

>>13996092
>>13996211
You can actually tank mummies with a high level armor.

My Dina before she was awakened could tank three and only be in trouble if there was aoe damage making all three go into rape mode. Could also tank one big mummy too, and she doesn't have a defense skill.

Anya does fairly well too when she has her skill up. She can tank a single big mummy.

>>13996232
> of course I'm talking about three starring each map when talking about completing the event
Your lame attempts at saving your face on anonymous board are pathetic, just stop.

Man, the new cards in AS gacha just keep strengthening whales. With one event every 3 weeks I really can't see free players being able to keep up.

How does the gachas chances work in angelic saga?

If someone is foolish enough to get a 3 star rank on the gacha, are they guaranteed a certain number of SSRs? Or is it just an "increased chance"?

I've read people say you're guaranteed one, or just higher chance. So not sure if it's worth it at all.

I wish I spoke moon, I wonder why is Farune so bewildered during her first scene

>>13996254
Really? Victoire and Elise (the new SSRs) seem weaker than Saber Clone to me. I mean, they're good cards, but I don't think the power level was raised again.

>>13996332
They might not be as bad, but they're certainly widening the gap.

>>13996372
Well did you expect NotSaber to be the only good SSR and all the others are bad? Honestly, I think if someone was willing to fund the game for everyone by throwing 2000$ at nutaku, let him have the win. I'm not even mad at these people.

>>13996254
You're right about that.

I think a tournament where you build a deck on the go with all the cards available (Heartstone like) would be far more entertaining and fair.

If this game doesn't change his structure, desertion will become the only solution.

>>13996404
Would you really prefer a entry fee based system like hearthstone? It's actually fairly punishing to free players honestly.

>>13996242
The only one who appears lame here is you. 3 staring a farm event like this is completing it. You get the unit, you get all the stuff. Done.
All the grinding to attempt to perfect the unit is just optional after that. Unless you suffer from some serious OCD and only consider things completed when its perfect. But I don't.

Man, being in the top 50 in the Angelic Saga tournament feels pretty nice. Though, I'm not sure how many people are actually in it, lol.

>>13996431
Where did I mention an entree fee?

>>13996511
How are you suggesting they make any money on draft based tournaments without an entry fee?

>>13996431
Being an infinite arena player in Hearthstone is really easy, though.

Besides, the entry fee is easily obtainable, and doesn't require actual money.

>>13996560
You get arena is close to a 0 sum game right?

By it's very nature an overwhelming majority of players actually can't infinite arena. It's the equivalent of saying it's really easy to make money trading in every MMO ever therefore financial issues aren't relevant.

As far as the entry fee being easily obtainable goes that's only really the case if you actually get it back most of the time. If you actually go 3-3 you'll be spending an awful lot more time not playing arena than playing it.

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>>13996634

Just fought a guy with 2 fully upgraded and max level Kupei's and 1 fully upgraded and max level Miyabi...

Of course, I quit after destroying the first Kupei and seeing another and a Miyabi pop up.

Must be nice to have a deck full of super strong cards.