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>>13809497
looks like Ano is disabling Domination of summoned spirits and other higher-level-than-usual monsters.

Well this sux.

Do you think the mods in the pastebin will work with this new update? How can I update my game without losing my save files?

>>13809497
So is Elona suddenly getting new support or?
I thought it was dead.

>>13809497
-carnage rat
-mirage griffon
-teacher
-shoebill
these things needs to fuck off
FUCK
OFF

I'm progressing only using shining wave and drain blood. what the fuck

>>13810472
you need to take up either magic or shotgun-zeroshoot.

>>13810514
I need to punch harder

what's the fastest way to train swimming? I kinda wanna try solo now that overlevelled pets are gone.

I have trouble progressing, although I've never made it this far. I'm level 18, made it all the way to Lesimas depth 17 with little girl and defender of jure. I have really good items and my pets keep making me new ones.

Does my 1.46 save work on 1.47 or should I just make a gene and reroll?

>>13810472
>enter a level 70 dungeon
>surrounded by carnage rats
>"They're just rats, I can take them on."
>Kill off all my pets and barely manage to escape using a return spell

Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

>>13811327
quite.

>using Jure + summon spirit to game music tickets
>this requires getting Blessed Jure down to low health and using a sandbag
>hey, this is pretty easy with my uber mount with maxed out 3000 speed, I wonder if I can do it without my mount at 1600 speed?

>WTF I can't get out of melee
>WTF holy word
>WTF ExcessiveHeal

>two dead pets and much unplanned meteor spamming later
>finally sandbag her; now all I have to do is wait till time up...
>take two steps and die to bleeding

>>13811327
>terrorist squirrel
>"haha, some new little shit. why they even bothered"
>it starts shooting grenades

>vampire
>"ah, the one that according to the wiki sits there trying hopelessly to cast while you kill it. this is gonna be a cakewalk"
>brainwashes me
>casts two darkness beams in a row
>punches me to a bloody pulp while I'm blinded

>>13809497
Hmm, so the biggest change for me this patch seems to be with cooking. From the sounds of it each cooking item has a food quality upper limit? So I can't just use anything anymore to get the best foods if I have high enough cooking skill. The BBQ set is now needed for the best stuff. The change makes sense though.

>>13810267
Regular Elona was created by Noa and had a good run but he eventually stopped working on it but allowed other people to continue working on his game. From this point on various mods of Elona emerged with Elona+ being the most popular. Elona+, worked on by a Japanese person named Ano, has doubled the content of the original Elona game and updates Elona+ frequently. Elona might be dead but Elona+, which some may consider Elona's successor, seems to be thriving.

>>13811244
If you're going to play in 1.47 with a character in 1.46 you'll need to import your character. Make a backup of your save, download 1.47, and replace the save folder of 1.47 with your backup save folder. From there just load your character. This will update your 1.46 save to 1.47.

Currently playing a fairy pianist/wizard/petmaster and I just finished up my God with Opatos. My current party is a melee little girl, golden knight, and a young lady. I'm trying to decide which God to go for next. I'm doing a lot of farming so going for the cute fairy seems good. How is the Elona+ android? I know the vanilla one was subpar and I'm looking for a ranged pet to work with, so it'd be between cute fairy/android since I'm thinking I'll do Lulwy last so I can stay for the speed boost.
The Exile seems cool but does it start to scale into uselessness once I get into South Tyris where things resist magic dart?

>>13811956
E+ android is amazing, and a strong candidate for best god pet.

>>13811956
I have an Exile, evolved as well, and I'm doing Lost Irva content. Exile mainly does dark element spells with a sprinkling of magic dart thrown in the mix. I haven't built her up as much as my little girl but I definitely see potential though. Currently, as long as I cast Nightmare for her, she does around 2-3k damage to one or more enemies(casts Eclipse I think which is a darkness ball spell). If I wanted to up her damage all I would need to do is raise her casting skill.

>>13811968
>>13812028
Awesome. I always wanted an android pet back when I used to play vanilla a few years back. I guess I'll worship Mani first and then work my way to Itzpalt.
Question, how many pets is too many to handle? I know the general consensus used to be that too many pets spreads your resources too thin and gives you a party of mediocre pets, does this still hold for Elona+? I've been managing to have all my pet skills hovering around 100%+ potential and most of the stats are in the "good" range.

Also which sprite sheet actually has all of the monsters? I'm running into a lot of squares using the 1.41f non-bobbledhead one. I could use the monster-girl one but I feel guilty pew pewing them with my panty.

Also

>>13812159
>Also
Typo my bad. But also thanks for the help and sorry for the barrage of questions.

>>13812159
>Question, how many pets is too many to handle? I know the general consensus used to be that too many pets spreads your resources too thin and gives you a party of mediocre pets, does this still hold for Elona+?
Depends on where you are in the game. Early on it's hard to keep even a single pet up with you, later on it's more about how fast you want the individuals to develop.

>>13812159
When training my pets I train them one at a time so I usually only have one pet out. All for the reasons you have stated above.

However, when I go into challenging places such as the void or some awakened dungeons I'll bring out the whole party. Main reason why I'm training more than one pet is to challenge those two type of dungeons. I kinda see my pets as mobile weapon platforms and the more pets I have the more damage I'm doing in a single turn to everything.

What those core items that look like motor dildos?

>>13812199
That's good I'm only about level 30 so I don't know how early that is. I've been mostly farming and perfoming, with some dungeon diving and house guest slaying.
>>13812233
That makes sense. I'm finding my pets are keeping up general since I'm taking it slow. The pets have been getting all my farm gems so that probably helps. Once I recruit my next god pet I'll probably solo train it to let it catch up.

I'm going to pick up gene engineering next so I can nab some skill for my pets. What are good sources of stuff like pickpocketing, and the resource gathering/crafting skills if at all?

>>13812306
I just used the slave trader in Derphy to get pickpocketing. I don't know which creature in their list specifically gives you it. Any skill that I couldn't get off of gene engineering creatures from the slave trader to my pet I got from dominating monsters in dungeons and gene engineering them into my pet.

>>13812254
forgot pic

>>13812233
How do you manage equipment? I want to have a team of god pet but I am finding it difficult to provide them with adequate equipment with good skills.

>>13812594
It's very hard to manage equipment for all your pets and will probably be that way until you have access to Lost Irva. Just keep your eyes open for random artifacts in dungeons and in your safe at your shop. Give pets static artifacts that you don't use as well. Once you get to Lost Irva you can delve into artifact fusion which should help out a lot in gearing your pets.

For the god pets I usually just give them the god weapon rewards. Usually that will last them for a long time until something better comes along.

>>13812594
I'm currently just making do with whatever I pick up. Around level 30 and I'm currently just trying to hit okay amounts of DV/PV like around 30 on my armor and 15ish on the rest like boots or gloves and decent weapons. Gloves are easy to come by for me because my young lady constantly makes more. A lot of my gear is stolen off of adventurers that come visit or I bump into in the city. I'd say a lot of the gear is suboptimal at the moment.

What other crafting skills can pets get anyways? I currently only get gloves galore, would the other crafting skills net other types of gear?
Weapon wise I'm just giving the god pet their god weapon.

>>13812638
Depending on whether Tailoring or Carpentry is higher, you will get either light armor or heavy armor. As the skill rises more armor types will be available, for example my little girl can also make robes and bulletproof vests.

Check out the list at
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:16673

The changelogs mention new god items.
What are they ?

Also, what's the mechanics for the extra 8 attacks for martials arts ?

Also, is there a limit to platinum spending on training, or it'll go up and up by one every 20 skill level ?

Also, i have no more questions.

Damn I don't remember anymore how am I supposed to check the floor I'm in in Lesimas

>>13815170
>extra 8 attacks for martials arts
what

>>13815178
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:16673
>Martial Arts attacks can now proc additional attacks up to 7 times (for a total of 8 attacks)

>>13815206
I had no idea

in the meantime, i've met a false prophet or something here. should I be worried?

>>13815231
...what should I do now?

>>13815271
Wooooo!

>>13815274
It gives me magic equip? does it works with buffs?

>you conquered Lesimas!
>Wooooo!
>random rogue boss oneshots me the moment I take a step outside

inventory expansion?

Is there any way to hit medium armor on a fairy so that I can use magic equip?

>Spirits from the summon spirit spell, aliens from infected NPCs, and summoned zombies can no longer be dominated if their level is higher than that of the mid-boss of Ch 3.
That seems like one hell of a nerf to summoned spirits.

>>13817170
You'd have to get yourself three extra slots from Doctor Gavela, at the cost of Life and the mutant speed penalty.

>>13815281
Yes

>>13817178

does this jap even think ahead? whats the point to even having a dominate spell?

What should I absolutely get before I go to south Tyris?
>>13817185
Wooooo!

>>13817490
I don't know if there's anything you really NEED.
The only immediate difference is that wilderness monster encounters are notably more difficult in South Tyris, but you should be able to handle them easily if you can beat Zeome.

>>13817475
I understand why they nerfed it. If they left it as is it would of been easy to get a very powerful pet through summon spirit and dominate. Now people have to work as hard as other pet handlers in grooming a pet to become powerful.

Dominate still has it's uses. Specifically, to dominate a specific creature type that suits your fancy. It's also still used to gene engineer skills into a pet and inject levels if needed.

>>13817518
No, I mean if I'm missing something that won't be alvailable on the south. like Garok shop, its full of stuff but I don't know really what to buy

>>13817490
Maybe finish all the sub quests in North Tyris before you had to South Tyris if you haven't already?

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Quests

>>13817568
Yeah, I miss the Cyber Dome and Palmia nuke ones. also I entered the thieves guild but didn't really progress in it

>>13817565
Are you thinking that once you head to South Tyris you can't come back to North Tyris? Don't worry you can go back and forth between the two by talking to the caravan npc at the respective borders.

>>13817565
You can always go back, just Return to the border.
I don't think there's any content that becomes lost forever upon going to South Tyris.

>>13817581
>>13817580
oh, I was convinced it was a one way trip

>>13812746
What's the best way to train pet skills in non-combat ones like carpentry or cooking?

>>13817769
AP

>>13817599
>>13817490
there is *one* thing that's irreversible, actually:

if you haven't Astral Light Pen'd Gwen yet, do it now.

She is replaced by the grown-up version once you go to south tyris.

>>13817892
Wasn't that after you beat the main quest in North Tyris?

>>13817895
probably, yeah.

but generally you don't beat the main quest until you're ready to head south.

>>13809497
Is it playable under *nix?
I found this:
http://www.binzume.net/software/xhsp/

>>13818627
I saw someone running it in WINE, I think.

>>13818627
Just run it in a VM, it'll run on a toaster.

>>13818627
It works on WINE, but BGM won't play and when you save on exit the game hangs a bit (either wait or close the window after the game has autosaved).
I am currently playing it in a WinXP virtual machine and it runs just fine.

>>13817892
>The Astral Light Pen is an item which is found in the Elona+ mod of Elona. It is a reward for part of the Elona+ main quest. It is also dropped by Seraph, Dominion, and Arkhai (at drop rates of 1/100, 1/200 and 1/400, respectively).
that doesn't describes very well how to obtain it.
seems a lot of time investment though, I don't care particularly about having an extensive pet collection

>>13809912

Why would you even bother to train any other pet when you can dominate a pet with initial 4 digit skills? That's a given; same with any other cheat-like features that's still unremoved or nerfed because they're too unskilled to notice it yet.

>>13811353

Why are you sandbagging an inner god when you can just teleport till time ends?

And seriously? A mere ~400% bonus tickets for wasting a wish spell trained at 400% potential? Not worth it tbh

How am I supposed to steal an iron maiden without dying in the process?

>>13812254

They're like... means of activating your masked rider mode. You can even change what you look like in each of those separately so it's real neat. The omega core is the strongest IMO.

>>13819576
I tried using them, and the only things that happened are "its impossible" and Next:1h

>>13810472

I actually tried playing a melee char for a few hours and I now realize why people keep on "muh shining wave" when it has really shit damage.

You basically get Shining Wave on a point where you deal 150-250 dmg in your regular attacks. It's a 2k-ish ranged damage for sapping away 1/6 of your stamina at that current playing time which could be nearly nullified by being a Kumiromi-slut so basically people get a lot of confidence from spamming it.

But what these people realize is that once you rely on Shining Wave, you become reeaaally shit. What you'll be doing later is relying on weapon invokes so wasting supposed-to-be-weapon-skill-trained attacks replaced by a Shining Wave is beyond foolish. But dungeon rushing at that early game for rushing your fame? It's what you should use.

>>13819595

I don't really remember how I activated it since I only tried each once. My gauge was 100 and I had tons of buffs along with tons of trial and errors was what I remember when I used them.

>>13812159

>I know the general consensus used to be that too many pets spreads your resources too thin and gives you a party of mediocre pets, does this still hold for Elona+?

>resources

Since you already know that resources are an issue, how about you raise your income first before you try or even think of raising pets? Ah, no. 100 or 200k gold per dungeon cleared just doesn't cut it and getting satisfied with 100% skill potentials for your pets is just wasting time.

Then you won't even be asking here "how many pets should I raise?" you'll just be raising an amount directly proportional to your free time.

What does Literacy and Memorization do for pets?

>>13819597
you're trying to say that people shouldn't one shot things that they can't possibly kill at their level because that doesn't help developing weapon skills? Kumiromi or not, its still 20 sp meaning 20 turns to recover. its simply impossible to rely completely on it. putting apart the fact that using it sparingly to avoid underdevelopment is most likely the first thing anyone realize
>muh
don't

>>13819612
Probably it uses gauge then.

>>13819723

>can't possibly kill at their level

They're experiencing this since their PC damage skills are all rock bottom. That's the problem.

As I've said, for rushing things it's okay to use but if you're actually using it for actual fighting enemies outside your PC skills (even for enemies that don't even kite you like rats/minotaurs/tsathogguas etc.) it's not okay.

>>13819534
>how to obtain it
it's simple - you wish for one.

>I don't care particularly about having an extensive pet collection
perhaps not now, but 200 hours in you'll be like, 'man, I really wish I had copied Gwen back then, because now my pet harem has a loli-shaped hole in it'.

>>13819762
>loli-shaped hole
Are you joking? there's every shape of little sister easily obtainable. Gwen isn't even cute, she's a hick that spend her time playing with mudballs and dung in that Yowin shithole pestering travellers with her annoying buzzing voice and onion breath

>>13819775

>every shape of little sister
You mean that little sister made of snow meat and that other one made of cheese? Absolutely disgusting

>>13819568
You cant. I was only finally able to obtain one when I saw one being stored in the inventory of a visiting adventurer. There truly is no other way of procuring them safely only unless you wish for one, but wishes are far too valuable to be wasted on worthless furniture imo.

>>13819786
>little sister made of snow meat and that other one made of cheese
...what
>>13819790
why its so hard to have a personal torture chamber?

>>13819795
it's occasionally stocked by anyone stocking furniture.

also the value of wishes drop off a cliff in the lategame - with high enough casting you can use scrolls of wonder to get stock and hardcast that shit.

>>13819775
I present picture evidence as to why you are wrong.

>>13819851
Damn, seriously? I had no idea. Shit, so much time wasted searching and your saying could of bought one at a stupid vendor? Guess I should read the wiki more often. But still, almost all vendors in my game (including furniture and general goods) are all ranked over 100 and having 1000 hours of play time in not once have I ever seen one. Well, I still don't have a Statue of Ehekatl or a single stock in wish spells either if that's any indication of what RNG thinks of me..

>>13819795
Because being a sadistic psychopath that relishes in the suffering of your victims is suffering.

>>13820117

>>13819762
Well that was easy.

Of the class feats which are actually useful to a caster? I'm trying to decide between whether I want the warmage's 5% cast chance or the wizard's mana cost reduction.

>>13820246
Warmage's is useless if you intend to 2-hand and wear light armor. It's the best possible class feat for a caster otherwise.

Wizard's is helpful early-game, useless mid-game and late-game, and then becomes a resource saver post-game for those grueling endurance battles.

>>13820246
>>13820369
For a pet based character would the priest's 25% more healing be better than the 10% mana cost reduction? Seems like getting more use out of healing rain would be good

>>13820476
Early-game no, you can't sustain Healing Rain usage enough to make any real use of it. Mid-game yes, it's highly effective. Late- and post-game no, Healing Rain doesn't heal enough to be worth using.

>>13820542
What are you using late game to heal your pets if not healing rain?

>>13819851
Any ideas why Gwen became the pitiless? I know I should of played with her more when I had to stop over at Yowyn but gosh damn the world needed saving.

>>13820776
>What are you using late game to heal your pets if not healing rain?
I mount them and heal. Takes less actions per point of healing.

>>13820776
>why Gwen became the pitiless?
she got molested and raped by some adventurer.
or maybe she joined the army and got full PTSD

>>13820776
>why Gwen became the pitiless
Some kind of reference to the game she's taken from, isn't it?

>>13820950
What game she's taken from?

>>13820968
Guild Wars.

>>13819775

>>13819775

Cold hearted.

I care enough about Gwen to draw a custom PCC for her from the monster girl character sheets.

Every pet I have, I draw a custom PCC for them. Extreme waifuing.

It's all on Elona Uploader already.

What is this tag thing I can do? Is it like the FE Awakening pair up system?

>>13822265
I personally don't use tagging that much as I don't find it useful most of the time. The main benefit of tagging I've found is farming AP for a weak pet. If you tag a weak pet to your character your character can kill things for your pet that are otherwise too strong for it and your pet will get AP for it.

>>13822265
It makes two (N)PCs act in sync. They share speed, movement AI, and can protect each other from AOEs.

Gonna let the kigarumi thread die.

We don't need that here.

>>13822328
>>13822462
Besides the AP the attached NPC doesn't get anything else right? Or maybe the kill exp? Also the fucking flooding godamn.

>>13822995
From my experience it's whoever gets the killing blow that get's the monster kill exp. This applies to tagged characters as well. Whoever in the tag team lands the killing blow gets the exp and it is not shared between the two.

Barely defeated Zeome, at 25% HP he was healing faster than me damaging him, and my pet delivered the killing blow only because she released her gauge attack.
It feels like I'm not progressing anymore: stats raise very slowly even when potential is at superb, still too weak to clear the quest rewarding you with the statue of Kumiromi, and I've done like 30 harvest quests without getting any herb seeds necessary to start an herb farm. Dungeon levels have skyrocketed, but I can manage to clear them somehow.

Is it better to restart over and don't rush things?

>>13824631
I don't see anything severely wrong with your character. Your stats are actually pretty good for your level. Having said that you entered South Tyris at a lower level than me. I was around lv 60ish when I arrived. Might want to get some levels to add to your HP and MP.

When you say dungeons have skyrocketed how bad are we talking? What's the dungeon danger levels? South Tyris is supposed to be harder so keep that in mind.

I don't think there is a need to start over unless you managed to severely make your dungeon danger levels out of synch with your actual power.

>>13824631
Don't know if you knew already, but dungeon levels are affected by the highest dungeon level you cleared.
It can get out of hand if you keep challenging yourself, and there's no fixing it short of a new character.

>>13824778
>>13824830
I knew that danger levels were also dictated by the main quest progress, but never expected to raise that quickly.
It was around 30~50 DL (never exceeded to defeat a lv50 boss) before Zeome and 60~110 after, this happening in both North and South Tyris. I was reluctant to continue, considering that defeating bosses at those levels would've meant increasing further the DL.

Ironically enough, I restarted and managed to find tons of herb seeds from my first party time quests.

>>13825108
you can get as much herb seed as you want by abusing the kumi fairy - fish lots, cook the fish, feed it to fairy for seed, throw cursed alcohol at it so it pukes it all back up. rinse, repeat.

>>13819612
Yeah you have to activate it when you have 100 gauge
still not sure what advantages is exactly losing health in exchange of a slight inferior stamina consumption, because it doesn't seem to do anything else

>>13824830
>dungeon levels are affected by the highest dungeon level you cleared.
>It can get out of hand if you keep challenging yourself
Uh, there's a reason if they're all 90+ now
damnit...

>>13824830
>dungeon levels are affected by the highest dungeon
Yu oh. I better not clear that level 60 dungeon while I'm still in North Tyris then.

Since opening bejeweled chests in higher level dungeons doesn't work anymore does that mean the items are generated when the chest appears? I've been collecting them in my house waiting for a mewmewmew day, I don't know if the luck helps or not.

>>13825673
No the items are generated when you open the chest. Open them where ever you like it won't make a difference. Apparently Luck does still make a difference.

On a different note while the barrier trait is clearly extremely strong which other trait has everyone chosen? I'm feeling Obstinate for myself and brave for my pets though the Dim one sounds interesting. How much does Dim ruin your day?

I was wrong, seems that all the shift cores do something different.
but they seem all equally useless

>>13825108
Dungeon danger levels between 60-110 isn't too bad for you but the upper limit might be a bit higher than you would like. What has kept me safe is sticking to the dungeon danger level x2 your level rule.

So if your character level is like 20 you should be doing dungeons with a dungeon danger level of 40 or lower. Even if you can do a dungeon higher level than that don't. Level up your character,increase his/her stats, and increase his/her skills within your dungeon danger level safe bracket and then when you feel it's safe to move onto the next bracket do so.

Once you have your herb farms set up and access to the void you can stray a bit from the x2 rule but that rule should keep your characters, especially your early game characters, safe from dungeon danger level problems.

>>13826063
>herb farms
I completely forgot I was supposed to do that at some point

>>13825861
Dim basically shuts down casters, it's amazing. It's less useful against other enemies, but still helpful.
Courage and Obstinate are both completely dependent on you being able to run around with low HP. If you barely ever drop low, such as because you're using barrier, they're worthless. If you spend a lot of time in the red, they're great.

>>13826097
>>13825861
What are you guys talking about? I can't find anything about barrier traits on the wiki

>>13826116
AP feats.

>>13826063
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. What is the main purpose of the Void? AP farming?
I'm considering to buy it pretty early, since I don't have any use for small medals aside the Shield Tonfa and a rod of domination.

>>13826149
Never heard about it. how do you get them?

>>13826235
Yes, void is definitely good for AP. It's also a good place to level up if you go down deep enough. Since the enemies down there have a lot of life it's a good place to train spells and skills. Lastly, if you do manage to mess up your dungeon danger levels you could in theory use the void to train up your character until you're able to do dungeons again.

>>13826259
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/AP

Haven't played Elona in over a year. Has someone finally fully translated the main quest?

>>13826612
Yes, but it's not integrated into the game.

>>13826706
Still?
This sucks.

>>13826721
The JP devs don't care about the EN players, this isn't really news. They've declined people who offered to assist in translation.

>>13826759
What about modding the dialogue?

>>13826612
If you're interested in the story and don't want to play in Japanese you can always consult:

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Story

to see what you're missing and get a gist of what's going on. Having said that Elona+ is a decent game to train your Japanese on so if you have some knowledge of Japanese you might be able to play Elona+ in Japanese.

I haven't played Elona in a long time, the version I have installed is 1.27, did the game changed too much? I'm also considering making a new game, since I am just lost in the middle of South Tyris.

>>13826980
There's been boatloads of changes, too many to list here, but it's not like the fundamentals have changed that much. Although, if you were wondering, there's really no reason to keep your level low anymore.

>>13827025
Was the level scaling enemies removed/changed?

>>13826980
I've updated from 1.37 a couple days ago and I have the impression that its actually more fun now. just being able to use the gauge attack manually and not wasting it on low level enemies is a great gameplay improvement

>>13827025
>>13827149
Thanks, I will try out a new character from scratch, this time I will try to make a proper character, instead of a Dual Wield Marksman Wizard that keeps fire breathing and zero shooting everything.

>>13826781
The cutscenes flat out do not trigger, there's no fix short of the devs pulling their heads out of their asses.

>>13827198
>Dual Wield Marksman Wizard
Sorry but I laughed

>>13827104
Scales to your fame, which sucks for you (or more specifically, me) if you do lots of quests and shit.

>>13827335
The scaling isn't that hard though, and fame is easy to drop in case of emergency.

Finally i've found a pet that is actually useful at he point I am.
fact is, my new buddy Murder Knight is so efficient that puts me to shame
>-your ego is damaged

>>13827212
While they don't trigger someone wrote a cutscene viewer. There's info on the wiki somewhere about it. I also remember reading something about custom English translations.

>>13827376
>The scaling isn't that hard though
The scaling must be broken on my end then because the level 60ish adventurers that are higher than me in the fame scale must be fighting level 150+ish rogues.

>>13827779
Don't think those adventurer NPCs have to worry about rogues unlike the player. I can kinda see how they could generate a lot of fame if they keep doing dungeons but it seems like all they do is easy dungeons for them since they don't seem to be leveling that fast.

Is there an option for changing the language to English? When i load 1.47, it's all Japanese.:(

>>13828479
On the main menu, hit Configure then Language.

Memory editing all that spell stock away after reading scrolls of wonders is ok ?
All that clutter of spells i don't care about is triggering my autism.
We're talking ten of thousands of stocks, not something i'd ever legitly get rid of.

Will Gene engineering to raise my pets levels/give them the skills they need hurt them in any way? I'm making sure they don't gain additional body parts and what not.

>>13829154
Not really. The only negative I can imagine is if you want them to craft specifically one type of items, but you teach them the other skill (Carpentry vs Tailoring).

>>13829154
When you go to gene engineer something into your pet you'll see beforehand if a monster gives them a limb or not as well as skills. Just nope right out of menu screens if you see that the monster will give a limb.

>>13828792

It's not okay you cheater. Get rid of your autism instead.

>>13829351
I hate you.

Ok.

I wish there was some way of getting rid of unwanted natural limbs. I want to chop off my legs and put in arms instead.

>>13819561
sandbag lets me do the thing early and pass post of the party in peace rather than having to dodge around for a whole hour.

>A mere ~400% bonus tickets for wasting a wish spell trained at 400% potential? Not worth it tbh

I have wishes coming out the wazoo. this is literally the price of a single scroll of flying. also I'm getting ~280000 tickets per show with this method.

Guys I just hit level seven and learned preaching but whenever I use it I get this error:

HspError 7 WinError 0 Ver 2660 Mode 0
efId 713 efP 100 Area 15/1
ci 65#690 ti 0#496 cc 0#0 tc 0#0 rc 0#0
3. main_init:End ct:0
2. turn_end:pc ct:0
1. main_init:Begin ct:245
0. main_init:End ct:0


Sorry.

after my game crashing in a notepad window.

I'm running 1.47 + Little sister interface, MG mod and the item mod.

>>13829860
Never could use preaching without crashing.
Tried alone and with pets, around npc or not, no change.

Been poking around the wiki trying to learn more and I have a couple of questions.

1. Does using a skillbook also train the corresponding attribute or is there a downside to using skillbooks besides the time restriction?
2. Is there a significant difference in which food you use as the base item for herbed foods? I've seen people talk about herbed herbs but the comments in the wiki didn't seem to have a definitive answer one way or the other. It is worth making herbed herbs or just make herbed whatever?

>>13829860
It only crashes for me when I get interrupted by something like a snowball.

Googled "elona preaching bug"
and got this:

Yeah, I have heard it has been a problem for a while.
It works like the performing system. If you are good, people give you money, but if you are bad they throw rocks at you.
It seems that the crash only happens if you preach around someone who would get mad at you and throw a rock at you.
Its a problem but you can still work around it. I would recommend preaching near low levels in a farm, that way you can still train faith.

I tried updating the monstergirl spritesheet and the /rlg/ itempack for 1.47. If someone updates the paste, please add the links to them. Also, let me know if they crash or anything.

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=22978656433932354095

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=09899544203934193022

>>13830129
How do I install custom sprites?

>>13830197
Go to your elona folder, and go into graphic. Rename the monstergirl spritesheet to character.bmp if it isn't already, and drop it in there. For the itempack, rename it to item.bmp and put it in the same folder.

>>13830202
Ah sorry. I knew that I worded my question poorly. By the way it works fine I was trying to install Gwen from the uploader but for some reason it's not working. I name the file Pic_13. I go in-game and try to shape-change my little girl but no dice. Pity.

Either way how can I install custom ones like these:
>http://imgur.com/a/HekoV

>>13830213
Custom individual sprites go into the user folder. The files have a specific names so don't go changing it as its usually named so Elona can find/use them.

Is there a way to know what equipments each pet can use?

>>13830213
I think you'd have to crop out individual frames you'd want to use and convert them to bmp, because I don't think that the game supports gifs. Correct me if I'm wrong, though. Like the other anon said, all you should have to do is place the bmps in the user folder.

Also, I tried updating the kumiromi UI. Let me know if there's anything wrong with it, if anyone wants to give it a shot.

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=01968404471561064900

>>13830290
Cool thank you. Will I encounter any problems installing the above sprites given that they are animated?

>>13830315
If you mean slots, you can check with [G]iving them things, tab over to the Take (7 or 9 work) and it'll tell you on the bottom.

>>13830377
Ah, thanks. I never noticed that.

What exactly are the god items like <Fetter of earth> good for? Are they just joke items?

>>13830832
They have fairly specific utilities, such as help you train those skills being reduced. For example, reducing healing/meditation means if you cast a spell and quaff a poison you'll constantly be trying to heal hp/mana without having to keep casting or hurting yourself. The sasumata can let you train tactics without killing whatever you're hitting and the fetters are good for passing time, or boost PV of something that's riding.

Check the wiki pages for them, the comments have some suggestions for how each could be used.

>>13829970
Since skillbooks can increase a skill then yes it can increase an attribute tied to the skill that increased. As for herbed food using a Curaria as a base is the best way to get overall stat increases.

>>13830832
They're used to train skills. For instance the Tempest Collar reduces evasion. Evasion trains on failure not successes. So having a lower evasion will lead to more evasion skill gains.

>>13830901
Oh that sounds good. Time to get a pile of putits to get my fairy evasion up.

>>13830901
>Evasion trains on failure not successes.
Damn, that's news to me.
Does this apply to greater evasion as well?

>>13829154
Yeah, since adding more body parts to pets one after another through gene engineering will stifle their speed exponentially(body becomes complicated SPD- 5%). That's probably the worst thing about gene engineering, though you could always just compensate with a bunch of really good ether speed rings or something.

But if you absolutely need to merge something like, for the sake of power leveling or a really good skill (i.e. cats for greater evasion) and don't want any added limbs you should take them to see either Icolle or Gavela. The body alterations they make on creatures wont allow them to carry over additional parts when spliced with your main pet.

>>13831060
Yes

Would Itzpalt's ability to give yourself mana be the most useful for casters or is the Lulwy speed still better?

>>13831372
Depends on where you're at in the game. If you have enough speed to put yourself on even footing with most monsters then Itzpalt is the better choice. However if you're hurting for speed Lulwy provides a temporary solution.

>>13831141
My mistake. Icolle the biologist only resets slots over their default amount and won't go any further.

What's the easiest place to get an Executioner?

>>13831372
you have to take into account the passive bonus as well. Itzpalt gives you huge resistance to fire, ice and lightning, which is the best passive of any god.

>>13830341

Animated is in the body slot when you set appearance to Custom 1.

So you want to name the file pcc_body_number.

It goes in graphic/PCCs.

IE pcc_body_3.

You need to set all other things to zero (0) such as hair and eyes if you are using a full custom body sprite.

Also you need to turn off armor and cape with a dresser furniture item. The port town have one dresser that you can use in the bottom left portion of the map.

I am working on drawing Justin and Sue from Grandia atm.

>>13833863
It'll reveal my low powerlevel but how do I set the values to 0? and which values are these?

>>13833877

Give me a second to get some screens.

>>13833877

Here is an example.

Appearance. C> Interact> Appearance.

The PCC I have for young lady is pcc_body_7. In the game it is in body slot 7. Everything else is 0.

You need to set Custom to 1 first to use PCCs.

>>13833902

Forgot the screen.

>>13833877

When in game equipment interferes with your PCCs, you can turn it off with a dresser furniture item.

Ex: My strongest ally. Holo the Wisewolf. I didn't design her, but I did draw a full PCC for her.

Waifuing to the max.

If you don't have one, a dresser can be found in the lower left portion of the Port Kapul that you can use.

>>13833935
I wish I had artistry skills to make PCCs.
The best I can do is a custom single-frame sprite by hacking apart/together existing ones.

>>13833944

Hey me too. I start off by hacking them and putting them together. I still put them parts by parts together from existing ones and patching the holes. Eventually I got good enough that it doesn't even matter the method.

Just start leveling up your spriting skills my friend. Only started a month ago too.

>>13833935
>every stat is better than mine four levels later
damn it

Maybe all these "bad" have something to do with the fact I get like one point per level?

>>13834445
people need to stop thinking of 'stats at x level' as some kind of performance metric.

now that there are no downsides to overlevelling, the correct way to think about levels is as another primary stat like Strength - one that gives extra HP and MP and bonuses to certain spells.

if you absolutely positively need to compare your progress to somebody else, playtime vs overall stats/spells is better, though still imperfect since some people leave the game on while doing other things.

>>13834618
>now that there are no downsides to overlevelling
what does this mean, I can increase the stats without leveling?

>>13834637
it used to be that monsters get harder as your PC levels. this is no longer true. tl;dr: level as fast and as often as you can, don't use xp-drain gear etc to hold down your level while getting your stats up.

this doesn't apply to pets, btw - gene engineering is level dependent and pets should be levelled carefully.

I've seen people having their world map full of farms, so I'll ask here.
Is it possible to build a farm on a forest/snow tile, or if there's any penalty by doing so?

>>13834445
I have to admit the design for the house in the bottom diagram is quite unique; is that a checkered pattern at the top?

>>13834586
Yes,and to increase your stat potentials you should start investing in the magic vendors you see in each town and in your house. Try getting their shop rank to at least 100 and when you do keep your eyes out for potions of potential. Buy them and get a stack of them. Then bless the stack with holy water, get a bottle of water and drop it on your god's alter in the truce grounds, and consume said potions. That should fix your stat potentials.

>>13834618
I agree with you to an extent that you should not avoid leveling but for me there is merit in paying attention to stats at x level as a performance metric.

Due to not completely understanding the game mechanics of the game you'll see characters that have 40-50 in each stat at lv 100 as opposed to someone who actually does know the mechanics and has stats nearing or a bit over 100 at lv 60. I would say the lv 60 guy is actually in a better position and stronger than the lv 100 guy. If you understand the mechanics of the game and you have stats that are appropriate for your level, such as the lv 60 guy, then you can apply another metric such as dungeon danger lv x2 your level and be safe knowing that you can do these dungeons with ease. The lv 100 guy earlier may have problems with dungeons that the lv 60 guy could do with ease and might have a hard time telling which dungeons he/she can do.

>>13835079
You can build farms on forest and snow tiles. There is no penalty for doing so oddly.

>>13835128
yeah. I was having fun building a cute crypt but at some point I realized I needed a bigger house to put in all the stuff I wanted to put in. so I halted the inner decoration works and now its just an half assed repository. later I'll make a stitch

Hey, sorry for vanishing a bit.
Updated the pastebin, included the bits about cargo changing and whatnot. I've been a little out of the loop, so if there's anything else important I need to touch up, feel free to give me a shout.

I won't be able to update the monster girl sprite sheet immediately, since I've got to dig through some backup files, since I had a real nasty ssd failure.

I added the two tinyupload links into the pastebin for now, temporarily, until I can get all my elona data back.

really bothered I lost all my custom pccs and whatnot

>>13835604
That sucks man. I hope your Elona saves didn't go with them.

>>13835230
>You can build farms on forest and snow tiles. There is no penalty for doing so oddly.
Thanks. I was confused since the Easy Gardening book states otherwise, but I guess that's just flavor text.
I'll build my comfy residence near Noyel.

>>13835604
Best of luck with your backup.

As for the pasta, you can still overburden yourself with cargo, as long as you don't exceed 2x the amount of your cart limit.
If there's anything worth mentioning, (1.46) soul mate pets can now craft always blessed high-quality light armor (if tailoring is higher) or heavy armor (if carpentry is higher), and it works pretty much like cooking. In the lastest version there's also an ensemble-like skill where pets help you read spellbooks, and train their literacy and memorization skill. It costs stamina, but nothing bad will happen in case of failure, unlike normal reading.

Is the old puking to death via cursed drinks still a method for killing things in Elona+ or did they change it to not be so effective?

>>13836095
It's not as effective anymore.

What's that new feat that says "you start to believe in yourself" or something?

>>13836295
Kokou (Isolation)

Increases Speed by 20% when there is no friendly NPCs on the map.

>>13836321
Thanks man

Dart type spell-wise what actually works once things start gaining resists? Does nerve arrow work well since you can remove resistances with nightmare? I'm finding it still does a lot less than magic dart when I'm up against undead and the like. Maybe crystal spear?

Fuck you hell crab

>>13834445
>
shit son get your LER up so you can get more bonus skill experience more often.

>>13836429
Magic elemental spells are nice to use as general damage dealers but some enemies have distinct weaknesses. For instance the undead are horribly weak against fire and fire bolt and fire ball do awesome damage against them. Use the right tool for the right job or in this case the right spell on the right enemy and you'll do well.

>>13835628
Some did, some didn't. I lost the two most recent versions,so about ~20-30 hours of progress. More bothered about the pccs and whatnot, since I had a good bit of hand drawn stuff in those.

That's how it goes, though, haha.

>>13835872
Yeah, I added the bit about cargo from skimming this thread, I'll add the pet stuff as well.

I finally got myself a evolution heart, not sure which pet I should put it on:
Little Girl
Fire@dragon child
Younger sister
Young Lady

>>13837277
it doesn't matter, you'll be swimming in the stuff later.

>>13811418
I lost some of skill, like cheer and rub after updating from (geez, old 1.41) to 1.47

how can you live without rubbing NPC's around? Any workaround?

>>13838026
Odd, I'm running 1.47 and I have access to the rub action. I don't have access to cheer but that's because I didn't take the feat for it. According to the wiki all you need is 5 charisma to qualify to get that action. Then you just level up and you should have it.

I found the rubbing action by pressing 'a' on the keyboard and scrolling to it.

>>13829648

I'd be getting millions if I try doing that and it's still not worth it. That 400% training potential on wish is just ruining it, it's not really the wish stocks; you could get hundreds of thousands of that if you just put your mind to it

Casting is really tedious to train

>>13824631

Hmm your speed for doing things should be really bad. You're at main weap dmg multiplier is only at
7.8 or are you hybriding?

>>13837277
The dragon, diary girls become useless past level 30.

>>13824631
My stats were much more shit than yours but I managed to plaster Zeome on the walls pretty easily.

What do I have to install so that Japanese text is not rendered in-game as gibberish?

>>13838224
wish's difficulty / stock cost stabilizes at ~lvl 300. with casting at ~1100 + living weapons and gear you can cast reliably.

also casting trains really fast with oracle.

One thing I'm still not 100% clear on, is the game being made simultaneously in Japanese and English, or are these releases just getting translated by someone else really quick?

>>13838350
Why's that?

>>13838099
>rub
my rub is gone, i wonder why, and so does my cheer, was it because the ether wind? I recently got my face crumbled and it deduct my chr by 25,

it was fine in 1.41, i don't miss any skill

>>13838522
Translated.

>>13838579

Don't mind him. As long as you raise a pet properly according to its role in your party and equip it weapon/s with decent weapon invokes according to its role, even a slime with no skills would be useful.

>>13838436
Japanese language pack for Windows.

>>13838758
Not him, but I am alo with a Little Girl and a Fire Dragon Child currently.
Are there any guide or something like that for how to build your pets?

>>13839261
If you can afford it give them all the ores you get and eventually get enough alchemy to make the pot of fusion items for them to sell. Also you can give them the quest gold after you take all the items by having them walk on it. The top thing is to keep their potential up and gear them up. Assuming you keep their potentials high they can keep up with you. Too many pets will spread your gold thin I suppose.

>>13839884
That's true (I guess since I'm not that expert) but in the end it doesn't pay off if you ask me, they will be always inferior to higher level pets with the same equipment. also they will miss special actions and whatnot since they're all pretty vanilla

>>13839261

>>13839884
This.

I'll also add that later on in the game you should let your pets loot the gold off of your dungeon boss kills if you don't need the gold yourself.

In hindsight I think the 3 most important things for building up my little girl/valk were gold, herbs, and AP. I'm sure this would apply to any pet as well and I personally think any pet can be brought up to become a powerhouse.

My ally needed gold so she could train her stat and skill potentials. Herbs grew out her stats. Specifically, I preferred using Curarias but when supplies were short Stomafillias were used instead. Lastly, AP was used to get her speed up to a reasonable level and then herbs, raw shoes, speed uppers, and blessed Hermes potions carried her to 2000. Nothing amazing in how she farmed AP. She accompanies me in almost every dungeon I do and gets her AP from killing things.

After using AP to bring up her speed I made her learn learn the AP feats/traits charm and barrier. Had her learn tactical attack and dumped all future AP in bonus skill points. Used the bonus skill points and dumped them into tactics and two handed skills. This along with her just killing things and leveling them up naturally has lead to her having a damage multiplier over 100.

I suppose the hardest part of raising a pet/ally is acquiring the three things mentioned above. Herb farms will take time to set up and gold and AP acquisition may take time as well. However, once you have the means to access all three easily watch your ally/pet explode in power. They grow faster than your character.

>>13840118
Yuki-san is really pretty

>>13840118
Scratch the raw shoes part. That's what I did for my character instead. Not sure if pets can consume raw equipment so I stuck with herbs, speed uppers, and Hermes potions.

>>13840118
>>13839884
>They grow faster than your character
My character is only level 8, but both my Little Girl(lvl 8) and Fire Dragon Child(lvl6, but has 4 times more HP than me) are stronger than me.
What I was doing is trying to cook all the raw meats, so my pets would eat better food, but I guess it doesn't matter much if all they are eating are yeek corpses.
So, basically, what I need to do for now is:
>Let them get the gold rewards
>Let them get the ores
>Herb Farm
>Pot of Fusion

Here's a pick of my new priest(ess?) Chyran <3!
Btw, can i only worship Jure of Healing during the Festival?

>>13840949
No, but it's preferable to do it during the festival because you can get a dakimakura(body pillow) of Jure from a follower NPC that attends the festival.

Outside of the festival you can convert to Jure by going to the Truce Grounds, north of the Palmia, and pressing 'p' at Jure's altar.

I'm newer to this game so im getting used to the controls here. Is there a way I can select a target to hit with when firing ranged attacks or spells? Controls say "target" is specifically " * " but pushing asterisk tells me the key is unassigned. I then checked if it was unassigned in the config.txt and it seems to be assigned to *. Am I missing something here?

>>13841493
Hit the 'l' key on your keyboard(lower case L). Once you do that you'll see letters by the enemies and you just hit that letter on your keyboard to select that enemy to fire at.

>>13838591
>rub
nvm cheer's in my wide skill, Shift+W

but man, i still lost my rub

>>13841538
What's your charisma at? Is it at least 5? If it is try leveling up and see if you regain it then.

>>13841511
Thanks

>>13841493
While as mentioned the l key may solve most of your problems you lose a little utility that * provides such as being able target the ground for destroying objects/checking for invisible enemies/throwing potions at said invisible creatures.

Are you trying to use the * (shift+8 for me) that isn't part of your number pad because that one doesn't work, it treats it as your 18 spell/action quick slot (hence the unassigned message). For me the * that does work is the one that is part of my number pad. If that doesn't work I suggest remapping the key because eventually there will come a point when you'll need it's functionality.

>>13841705
Yes I am trying shift+8 on my keyboard (the non numberpad one)

And yes I was a bit disappointed that I could not "target ground" especially for beam spells.

Remapping it worked though, thanks again.

>>13841854
" that isn't part of your number pad because that one doesn't work"

Well, I misread that.

So it seems that one works.

>>13840949
Have fun, Jure is basically Elona's cute girl Jesus Christ. One of her rewards for good service is the Holy Lance itself.
The Truce Grounds look like a collection of large grey crystals. You'll know them when you see them.

>>13841552
yea i need to recover from this foul ether disease, my charisma is at freakin 1, and everybody hates me.

this is gonna be tough.

>>13842591
get some engagement rings from the puppy cave, turn them all to candy and chow down.

on lucky days you can gamble at the casino and win cure corruption potions.

Elona really miss a spell creator.
Keeping the same mechanics about stocks and potential, but with a spell creator akin to Morrowind.

Have you imagined a life with a 4-dimensional pocket? Like putting all your important things in the 4th dimension and never have a chance to lose them since they're listed? Or maybe, putting all your lewd portfolios never to be seen by anyone but you?

>>13841595

That L is only a look option. You can't target the ground which is useful at times.

So I started playing this, and it's pretty nice... but there's a horrible minotaur that kills me and my companions in a single hit, in floor 5 or 6 of Lesimas. And although my Little Girl still loves my, my Mad Scientist hates me (got him under 25).

I'm level 8 too...

All the people in Vernis hate me too. Specially the item identifier and, to a lesser degree, the innkeeper.

>>13847179
Level 8 is too low, Lesimas gets harder every floor, so thread it with care.
Pets will lose impression of you when they die.
Don't talk to NPC's if you have low charisma.

Read the Elona wiki, it has almost eveything you need there.

>>13847183
>Don't talk to NPC's if you have low charisma.
Ah. Dammit, I actually have a good charisma (16), but I have a GOAT breastplate only diminishes the charisma for, I think 8, as a downfall. So I guess I should just take off my breastplate whenever I talk to people?

And yeah, I understand that pets lose impression when they die. That's why I was saying hot my Mad Scientist hates me after the minotaur killed us a fuckton of times.

And I'm pretty sure I killed everybody in the level other than the goddamn minotaur in 2-3 shots. The minotaur though...

But yeah, thanks. I guess I'll just wait 'til I'm 10 or something to try and hit the minotaur level again.

>>13847179

You are at a stage where this game is currently new to you and is really confusing. Please take things step by step and stay away from Lesimas for now.

What you should do currently is to raise fame to 50000, get platinum coins, gold. That's what you should be doing for the first 20-30 hours before doing anything adventurous. Use your platinum coins for raising the potential of your desired skills faster and spend your gold for food/weapons etc. Also avoid equipping/eating/drinking any cursed items you find while grinding. Fame is raised by finishing quests and dungeons; dungeon clearing yields loads more fame than finishing quests.

That's all for now.

>>13847207
Yeah, I have like 10 hours under my belt, and I have like 1k fame, and more than 50 platinum coins I don't know what to do with (I mean, I've used them to learn cooking and alchemy, but other than that...)

I did recover Shana's barrels though. And delivered the letter from that dude from Lesmias who died to his king.

>>13847213

Your plat coins could be used to raise a skill's potential up to 400%. The higher the potential, the easier it is to train the skill. As to what each skill (accessible by pressing C) does, consult the wiki; but the gist of what you should focus is to raise your damage. More damage means more fun and an easier time right?

>>13847222

As to how to train each skill, there is this http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:16301.. Go to that Google Doc

>>13847241
>>13847222
Thanks. Will give it a check.

>>13847241
>magic gauge technique train magic device
Guess that explains why it levelled out of nowhere.
And trains by quite a lot, too.

Inner gods should have 2000 Life and have their stat limit raised to god knows how much. What's the point of being a god worshiped by millions if you get killed in 1 hit?

>>13847241
>that travelling formula for training others skills
OH SHIIIIIT
Guess it means getting to 188 travelling is my next goal.

>>13847294

Calm your tits, it trains random skills so you can't control it to train a skill to your liking and even if it trains everything, there's still that issue about plat coins being tedious to grind. Why 188 travelling though?

>>13847303
The max is 50 exp per mile, and the formula is travelling/4+3.
188/4=47+3=50

>>13847303

I don't really think it's random since all the weapon skills that I'm not using have exactly the same level. If it's random, the unused weapon skills should have different levels I think.

As a fairy wizard should I be leveling up a secondary weapon skill like throwing or firearms for when I'm low on mana/don't want to use it? I'm currently just throwing panties and the damage isn't great though the confusion is nice.

I just noticed I lost my Nine god sign, is it possible that my fireproof blanket didn't protect it?

>>13841705
>>13846860
Aside from making invisible creatures wet,thus revealing them, by throwing potions at the ground what other neat things can be done with the * way of targeting things? I ask because 99% of the game I've used the lower case L key to target things because it's quicker than * and it could have been 100% if I had gotten the Lucky Dagger or Sage Helmet before invisible creatures started becoming a problem. Is it possible to burn down a whole city and not take a karma hit because you started a fire by throwing molotovs at the ground instead of at a person?

>>13847290
Please don't make it sound easier than it really is. You'll spend at least 300 hours before your character is able to accomplish deicide. More to get to the point where you'll one shot them. Also, gods being able to die is a thing. Just look at Norse and Greek mythology.

>>13847546
I find it useful. Definitely useful for when low on mana but it's also good when you eventually encounter enemies that make you dim and cause insanity. Casting while those Yith enemies attack you is dangerous as you'll either blow yourself up due to magic reaction or drain your mana heavy into the negatives. So having a ranged weapon for them to take them out can be useful if you can't kill them easily with magic.

What are the conditions to unlocking the G quest in the maid mansion? I've owned it for about a in game month and it hasn't appeared.
Also is the pro-jet is best off as a front line combatant since it has the metal attribute?

>>13848570
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Maid_Mansion

Check the basement section on the wiki link. Pro-jet seems to be a front line pet since it's a warrior and has shadow step. Problem is that it doesn't come with hands by default so you'll need to fix that.

>>13841342
Is the body pillow worth it?

>>13848947

Not really. It acts like a sleeping bag. It's cute though.

>>13848947
It's certainly not the best bed in the game but it is so worth it. Make Jure cry in embarrassment knowing that her likeness is inscribed in body pillows that are hugged tightly at night. Bullying Jure makes it worth it. Also, creep out your allies or find out which is a latent Yandere when you sleep with your pillow at night.

So, I checked to see how many Tactics levels I'd get with 600 bonus points. Got about 30 at 400 Tactics. Man, trying to get 2,000 is going to be torture.

>>13849002
THIS PLEASES SLAANESH

if I start as a debug race and pick Bell, will I get the 10x damage reduction?

>>13848490
A few uses off top of my head are if you're trying for a wish and you've exhausted the wells near by you can just burn them with firebolt, etc. and wait for them to respawn.
Looking for godly furniture? If you destroy most of the furniture in town you get more chances for that sweet house improving loot.
Fucked up by causing a fire that threatens to burn that npc/adventurer you've been buttering up? Toss a potion on that blaze.
Granted l is quicker to use in most combat situations but having the additional utility is hardly a bad thing.

Is it possible to use a two tiles sprites for the player character?

Oh man, I got a rod of wishing from the salary box, but I don't what to use it on. I am currently level 11, and all the suggestions on the wiki looks meh, is wishing really not that great?
I am thinking of getting an astral light pen.

For melee is two-hand more beneficial than dual wielding or the other way around? I figure with dual wielding you can stack a bunch of invoke weapons which would possibly be better?

>>13852576
Never thought I'd hear that wishing seemed meh to a level 11 character. At that point I had an entire list of things to wish for. You sure you read the wiki? There really are some good suggestions there...

Anyhow, Astral Light Pen is a good wish. So is the Happy Bed and the Seven League Boots seem really popular for a wish as well. My personal favorite? It's entering miromi in the wish text box. That gives you an item which you can use to gain an extra feat of your choosing.

>>13852736
From everything I've read so far dual wield doesn't come come into its own until much later in the game. It is very dependent on the quality of your weapons(invokes, damage die, etc) and to get the most of it you should specialize in one weapon type to train to maximize your hit chance. On the other side of the fence, two hand is rather straight forward and is powerful right at the start of the game and throughout simply because the damage multipliers they can achieve is absolutely crazy. Just look at someone's pet posted earlier in this thread. Yuki has a damage multiplier of 111.

>>13851844
It might be but it's not going to be straight forwards nor are you going to be able to have an animated sprite. It'll probably involve elosnak.

I-is she seriously going to have a kid now?

>>13854912
Yes, although her kids will be aliens and they'll burst through her stomach and proceed to kill and also impregnate people around her. Suggest giving Sanae acid to drink or bottles of dye to kill the aliens in her stomach.

>>13854912
You better make her get an abortion. I hope you have some acid.

>>13854920
Too late.
That was fucking quick

>>13854912
Insert Sanae a slut joke here

>>13854924
It ran away in derphy of all places. There aren't even guards there to kill it so chances are its going to become an infestation.
Make Sanae drink some acid/dye/poison/cursed food anyways. She's permanently pregnant till you do so. Because >>13854926

Hey Cock suckers,

My name is John, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.

Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than "jack off to naked drawn Japanese people"? I also get straight A's, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.

Pic Related: It's me and my bitch

>>13854912
You're always supposed to give pets <It prevents aliens from infesting your body> enchanted items right away!

>>13852853
It is just that when people usually ask what would you ask for if you had a wish is stuff like Immortality, Infinite Money, Power...
Instead the wiki recommends that I get items that are not extremely better than items that you can easily get, or a few status boosts.

>>13855035
I killed the one in Derphy as it was fleeing so we're good there.
She had three more in Vernis and the guards didn't do shit so she ended up getting rekt. At least that gave me a chance to find some dye.

>>13855075
I've seen some of those and I thought "how does that even work?"
I guess I know now!

I am disappointed. I thought I was gonna get a new pet.

>>13855179
The line about swallowing something bad didn't clue you in?

>>13855179
I came across the items way before all this happened.

>>13820776
>Yowyn horses
Gee. I wonder why.

>>13855381
What?

>>13854924

Just in case you're wondering how to kill all people in Derphy if everyone is impregnated, there's a nuke there you can buy for cheap 12000 gold in exchange for a karma loss.

>>13852736

Two weapons are always better than 1. That should never be mistaken. As for the reason, find it out on your own.

>>13856159
Three weapons are always better than 2. That should never be mistaken. As for the reason, find it out on your own.

Finished Justin and Sue from Grandia I. There is no Feena. . . Yet.

They are both sprite games so I did it as close as possible.

It's on Elona Uploader.

>>13860836

Is there a sprite compilation somewhere? Too lazy to search one by one.

>>13860939

What do you mean?

It's on here.

http://www.elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm

>>13860945

Thanks! I'll dedicate a wish to you later.

Mani's the best.
Lulwy's a cunt.
( Don't tell her i said that )

>>13867157
Mani used to be a mortal disciple of Lulwy. Lulwy loved him, and used her to become a god, betraying her trust in the process.

Becoming a god stripped him of all his memories, so far as he knows he did nothing wrong and can't understand why Lulwy is so pissed at him.

>>13867177
Where did you got that lore ?

>>13867248
http://elonagather.wiki.fc2.com/

>>13854924
You know you can use custom sprites for pets, right?

>>13867157
Mani's a fucking faggot. I put usb pens filled with malware on every of his altars I found
just wait I grinded enough you L33T faggot, I'm going to debug the faggotry out of your carcass by kicking your silicone anus you piece of amiga 500
bitch
your mom should had buried you in new mexico when you still were a little shit
gay cunt
that's what you get for treating ladies like shit
I hope you like blue you shitter cuz when I'm done its the only thing you'll see before you get formatted out of existence

Siva is the strongest critter in South Tyris ?

>>13875482
Yes

>>13875632
Noice, i'm ready for the boss then.

How am I supposed to play a Fairy mage? All the staffs that bosses drops that have "Enhances spells #####" weigh more than 1.0s. Do flying scrolls work on special weapons?

>>13876414
Yes

>>13876414
Alternatively, make a living weapon with it.