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Anonymous Fri Jul 24 14:00:34 2015 No.13820496 [Reply] [Original]

We need a proper Otakon thread.
Since MG panel is in less than 12 hours, let's start with them.

You'll be able to get the transcript of the panel through this link - http://bayoab.info/live/live2.php

MG has 5 announcements to make and they have a page dedicated to them - http://mangagamer.org/announcements/
Two of those announcements are new partners and it's possible that one of them produces BL games. According to doddler, none of announcements can be considered nukiges.

There's some expectation that there'll be at least one major title. However, we don't have enough information to be absolutely certain of this so please try to not expect something earth shattering. Also, expect Supipara to be part of the announcements along with Albatross Sky Butlers.

If someone here goes to the panel, please try to record it and post it later.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 14:16:05 2015 No.13820537 >>13820496 Supipara is not going to be one of the five games, just a bonus mention. But this thread is a good idea otherwise. Also Doddler also said that none of the projects will be official releases of fan translations, for more information.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 14:19:46 2015 No.13820554 Tulip Goddess Haruka and BDH (Big Damn Hero) are two fujoshi who are pretty damn excited for what is being announced.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 14:24:30 2015 No.13820569 >>13820554 BL confirmed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 14:25:33 2015 No.13820574 >>13820554 GH gets excited for literally anything and BDH isn't even a girl. I wouldn't take a BL announcement for granted.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 14:25:37 2015 No.13820575 >>13820554 >>13820569 Yurirei perhaps? https://vndb.org/v8508

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 14:25:55 2015 No.13820577 >>13820569 more like yurirei confirmed

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 14:27:48 2015 No.13820586 >>13820496 >If someone here goes to the panel, please try to record it and post it later. I wouldn't mind event only getting the audio

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 14:30:01 2015 No.13820596 >>13820575 >>13820577 Dies Yurirei confirmed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 14:32:35 2015 No.13820605 >>13820574 You don't have to be a girl to be a fujoshi.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 14:58:26 2015 No.13820699 File: 127 KB, 1024x768, CKsVZp7UYAA9Tvx.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is the place where dreams come true.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 15:02:51 2015 No.13820720 >>13820699 It's nice to see all the 07thexpansion merch.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 15:11:44 2015 No.13820760 >>13820699 Please send the one with with Ruriko here!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 15:25:51 2015 No.13820795 >>13820760 Are you the same person who has been harassing Doddler and m- others with Ruriko questions?

Anonymous Fri Jul 24 15:35:18 2015 No.13820834

>>13820795
I actually spoke of Ruriko in one of ask.fm questions I sent doddler back when PE was released but at most I sent one or two. Unfortunately, I'm not your man.
Anyway, I have to say that too much Ruriko is a concept that is impossible to exist. I'm sure doddler would agree with me since he really likes her too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 15:37:26 2015 No.13820840 >>13820834 Well, that's certainly very true. Ruriko is a miracle of the universe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 16:00:58 2015 No.13820893 File: 105 KB, 1024x768, CKsVZoiUYAAv5m-.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13820699

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 16:06:56 2015 No.13820931 >>13820496 >http://mangagamer.org/announcements/ Can we reason that the order of the announcements is related to how high profile the VN is?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 16:07:41 2015 No.13820936 >>13820931 Probably.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 16:19:06 2015 No.13820978 >>13820893 That black place on the right is where dreams go to die.

Anonymous Fri Jul 24 16:21:54 2015 No.13820989 [DELETED]

So less than 9 hours until I know what VNs will be tainted by you abominable EOPs.

j/k there's no logical reason for me to care about what you get as long as it doesn't affect future or current Japanese release. And honestly, you probably don't want that either. You don't want VNs to get butchered just so they can be safely repackaged for you, do you English Only Friends?

Anonymous Fri Jul 24 16:31:29 2015 No.13821019

>>13820989
>j/k there's no logical reason for me to care about what you get as long as it doesn't affect future or current Japanese release.
Even if VNs end up being popular in west and money starts flowing to Japan thanks to them, I hope the companies are smart enough to just keep doing what they are, instead of trying make things that appeal to western audience.
People love these games as they are.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 16:34:26 2015 No.13821031 >>13821019 >People love these games as they are. Not on Steam.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 16:35:47 2015 No.13821039 >>13821019 >People love these games as they are. Yes, this is my point. And I hope it's true on large enough scale.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 16:36:48 2015 No.13821042 >>13821031 And this is the worrisome part.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 16:38:57 2015 No.13821049 http://ask.fm/The_Doddler/answer/129301145841 >Should we expect at least a moege and a VN with serious plot this Otakon? >At very least!

Anonymous Fri Jul 24 16:40:56 2015 No.13821057

>>13821031
If anything, I imagine we'll see more alternate all-ages releases. The 18+ versions for moege like Evangile sell nicely for MG, and Steam version is making them steady money as well.
Rather than having third party company handle the content cutting for all-ages release, it'd be sensible if original devs did that stuff and added alternative content to give people incentive to buy both.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 16:48:55 2015 No.13821089 >>13821049 I hope the moege is Magical Marriage Lunatics. Don't be shocked if one of the serious games turns out to be Subahibi.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 16:54:45 2015 No.13821112 >>13821089 Doddler confirmed that none of the announcements will be preexisting translations. And Moogy himself confirmed that Subahibi's not getting licensed at all. So shut up about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 16:55:37 2015 No.13821117 >>>/cgl/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 16:58:52 2015 No.13821134 >>13821112 Yeah cuz translators have never trolled the audience before.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 17:05:00 2015 No.13821152 >>13820699 Is Bamboo there?

Anonymous Fri Jul 24 17:25:16 2015 No.13821219

>>13821019
>I hope the companies are smart enough to just keep doing what they are, instead of trying make things that appeal to western audience.
I doubt that is ever going to happen.

Except for ZE3 but that's a different scenario, new art looks just terrible.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 17:28:26 2015 No.13821230 >>13821219 Some might argue that Purple Software moved a little in that direction with Chrono Clock thanks to SP.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 17:30:36 2015 No.13821239 >>13820989 Well, you don't have to worry about MangaGamer causing that. It's Sekai Project you should worry about destroying Japan's VNs, because they've already done it for Chrono Clock. They're the true threat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 17:31:38 2015 No.13821248 >>13821049 >moege Dies Irae. >VN with serious plot Yurirei.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 19:01:49 2015 No.13821588 >>13821248 Yuri Dies confirmed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 19:05:07 2015 No.13821602 >>13821230 Not to mention Front Wing with Hatsumira.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 19:05:46 2015 No.13821604 File: 71 KB, 1280x720, yurikuma0103.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13821588 MangaGamer is going to kill yuri. Gao gao.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 19:22:19 2015 No.13821692 >>13821604 More like save it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 19:37:29 2015 No.13821778 Dies Irae Dies Irae Dies Irae Dies Irae Dies Irae Dies Irae Dies Irae Dies Irae Dies Irae Dies Irae Dies Irae Dies Irae Dies Irae Dies Irae Dies Irae

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 20:09:34 2015 No.13821960 >>13821778 Keep dreaming.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 20:22:02 2015 No.13822014 >>13821960 Baldr Sky DiveX "Dream World" confirmed.

Anonymous Fri Jul 24 20:26:33 2015 No.13822034
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>>13820699
Huh, did they ever get a May-Be Soft game in their lineup before? Isn't that Roza from Henshin 3 to the left? Looks like this article.
Henshin series was one of my favorite comedy eroge, but I've never seen anything about it being released in English before...

Anonymous Fri Jul 24 20:28:40 2015 No.13822041

>>13822034
I posted it in /vn/ earlier to find out who that was, and we theorized that MangaGamer may actually be trying to get that game. Probably not gonna be an Otakon announcement unless Doddler lied, though. But it will be cool if they do that at some point, it looks great.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 20:33:06 2015 No.13822058 >>13822041 Oh I see. Well, I will say I have never laughed so hard while having a boner at the same time before playing the Henshin games so if the west gets it it might be a nice change of pace.

Anonymous Fri Jul 24 20:59:27 2015 No.13822172

>>13822034
MG usually sells whatever random articles they can get their hands on in their booths, whether or not they're actually related to stuff licensed by then. Sometimes they'll even sell merch from eroge licensed by competitors. So I wouldn't take that as solid proof.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 21:02:15 2015 No.13822182 >>13822034 May-Be Soft looks really nice, and they have that one TG game. Never enough TG games translated.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 21:52:46 2015 No.13822404 >>13822041 >Probably not gonna be an Otakon announcement unless Doddler lied, though. "It's not a nukige, it's a comedy game!"

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 21:54:22 2015 No.13822414 >>13822404 Be fair, broski. He honestly hasn't pulled that shit before, so I think we can trust him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 21:56:43 2015 No.13822426 >>13822414 He thinks that Big Boobs War isn't a nukige.

Anonymous Fri Jul 24 21:57:38 2015 No.13822429

>>13822414
He may have helped overhype the licenses though, but Dies Irae was never very likely to begin with, and it's mostly the fandom's own fault for getting to carried away with their guesses.

>I feel like maybe we've gone a bit far toying with expectations. It IS hype, but seeing people convinced on things that won't happen is...
https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/624612907670638592

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 21:59:56 2015 No.13822440 >>13822429 We may not get what we want but it might as well be a good compromise if we don't. I think that's what he's trying to say.

Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:01:11 2015 No.13822447

>>13822429
I don't think many of us actually believe it's Dies Irae, or at least not here. But it's hilarious to keep pushing the idea that it is because on the off chance that it actually does turn out to be Dies Irae I can rub it in forever, and if it's not Dies Irae I can just pretend nothing happened. I win no matter what.

Also, fuck Taedirk.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:03:03 2015 No.13822457 >>13822447 Rub in what?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:03:52 2015 No.13822463 >>13822457 Your girly dick!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:03:52 2015 No.13822464 >>13822457 My DICK, hahahahahaha!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:04:32 2015 No.13822473 >>13822463 >>13822464 This sounds pretty gay

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:06:05 2015 No.13822483 >>13822440 >>13822447 There were people who were seriously pissed on other forums when Aoiro Rinne was brought up as a possibility. Apparently, if a game isn't to some peoples standards they want to send MG angry emails telling them so.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:07:59 2015 No.13822492 >>13822483 Are these the same people who called Himawari "no-name lolige"? Gosh, you would expect EOPs to be thankful for whatever is given to them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:08:03 2015 No.13822493 >>13822483 Well, there are always going to be idiots. That's nothing new. MangaGamer can safely ignore them, just like they ignore Taedirk.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:09:11 2015 No.13822498 >>13822493 >just like they ignore Taedirk. If only you could do the same.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:11:29 2015 No.13822510 >>13822498 Never. He shall burn, just like Aroduc did when he dared to criticize Cross Ange.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:12:43 2015 No.13822518 >>13822510 He hasn't burned at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:14:58 2015 No.13822533 This this post on Sekai's twitter is for real or just a joke? >Our translators are bullying us :( https://twitter.com/sekaiproject/status/624632354599010305

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:15:15 2015 No.13822535 >>13822518 He will always be subjected to my burning gaze. Incidentally, if this were Dies Irae I would suggest that gaze should be read as both gaze and gays.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:15:54 2015 No.13822539 >>13822483 Aoiro seems like a good game, it's Café's favorite after all. That's the same guy that chose Sweet Sweat in Summer, so I trust his taste. I'm not a buyfag but whatever MG releases it should be good enough for me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:16:29 2015 No.13822547 >>13822533 Typical whiny fucking Dovac victimizing himself without context. And what do you know! It's the goddamn Taedirk.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:17:41 2015 No.13822556 >>13822539 He chose that? Huh. Another reason to check it out, I suppose. Weird though, since it's so obscure it didn't even get uploaded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:17:46 2015 No.13822557 >>13822535 You're subjecting him to your burning gays? Why do you have gays? Are you trying to fuck him?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:20:47 2015 No.13822576 >>13822557 Indeed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:21:46 2015 No.13822584 >>13822556 I think what MG might be announcing obscure gems like that this time around. Maybe we'll see a back alley doujin kamige be released, who knows.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:33:09 2015 No.13822696 >>13822584 Gems like Aiyoku no Eustia.

Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:34:34 2015 No.13822709
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>>13822429
Clearly this is another hint. What product was famous for excessive hype and toying with expectations, leading to disappointment? That's right, Daikatana. Daikatana is written as 大刀, which is an unusual reading. You know what the usual reading for that is?

Daito.

We're getting Daitoshokan no Hitsujikai!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:37:05 2015 No.13822730 All the speculation going on here reminds me of when Cross Channel was first released.. Good times, good times.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:38:21 2015 No.13822747 >>13822709 daiteikoku lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:40:27 2015 No.13822764 >>13822539 >>13822556 Do you guys love when centipede ravages your rectum?

Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:40:39 2015 No.13822767

>>13822709
I'd be up for that, since the translation project seems to have up and died and I don't really hype myself for games. I just play them and probably like 'em since I like everything.

And I must say, it would be amazing if MangaGamer actually used logic like that to decide how to hint at stuff.

>>13822747
This too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:41:53 2015 No.13822778 >>13822764 So that's what sex with insects meant. Nevermind, that is now the last visual novel I will ever check out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:44:44 2015 No.13822802 >>13822730 You mean speculation about Cross Channel's ridiculous plot, or was there something going on outside of it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:45:52 2015 No.13822820 >>13820699 Why does MG booth have sonico poster?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:46:17 2015 No.13822822 >>13822778 What do you mean, you don't want your anus to be violated by thick, slimy centipedes? Heck, I'm getting really hard just thinking about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:46:42 2015 No.13822829 >>13820699 >Fiddler on the Roof >no one posting any jew faces Surprising

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:46:59 2015 No.13822833 >>13822822 Cafe, pls.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:47:17 2015 No.13822835 >>13822820 See >>13822172

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:47:36 2015 No.13822839 >>13822820 MG sells whatever merch they can get their hands on at cons.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:49:20 2015 No.13822852 >>13822829 It's more surprising that you would expect anyone on /jp/ to be cultured enough to know that. Well, I do, but I'm the exception, not the rule.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:52:44 2015 No.13822887 >>13822852 >>13822829 I knew that but would rather make a Diddler on the Roof joke.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 22:58:35 2015 No.13822943 File: 56 KB, 960x705, Part-HKG-Hkg10193089-1-1-0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 2 hours to go.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:02:06 2015 No.13822977 >>13822943 Be prepared for a funny image I will be posting right at the start of the panel.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:03:05 2015 No.13822987 >>13822977 Doddler's cucumber, amirite?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:03:14 2015 No.13822989 Looks like that guy that streamed last year is gonna do it again http://www.ustream.tv/channel/animecons-industry2

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:05:43 2015 No.13823012 >>13822987 No, but you should post that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:11:50 2015 No.13823058 >>13822987 Why does he have a cucumber?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:12:08 2015 No.13823062 >>13822989 Nice, it will be interesting to find out what these nerds look like in real life.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:13:08 2015 No.13823069 >>13823058 Tell me about Doddler! Why does he have a cucumber?!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:14:03 2015 No.13823078 >>13823069 Please refrain from using memes from other boards.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:18:00 2015 No.13823112 You know what would make my day? MG announces Makura as it's new partner and Ikikoi.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:18:16 2015 No.13823114 >>13823078 Wow, such wetness, much blanket.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:19:22 2015 No.13823121 >>13823112 >Ikikoi Can't happen. Had a complete fan translation. Even if the quality is, mmm, debatable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:23:12 2015 No.13823143 >>13823112 There's no way they'd do that. What reason would they have to release other moege after doing the kamige of the genre?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:24:16 2015 No.13823151 >>13823143 Um. Which one?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:25:42 2015 No.13823159 >>13823112 Scaji has been way too busy recently to have time to deal with MG. Even if he were interested in expanding overseas (which I doubt, to be honest) it wouldn't be until after September at the very earliest.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:30:15 2015 No.13823189 >>13823151 It's no exaggeration to say that Ikikoi is one of the few eroge worthy of title "kamige".

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:31:10 2015 No.13823198 What are you doing while waiting until the MG panel at Otakon? I'm watching TRIGUN for the first time. It's pretty good, makes me want to re-watch those old hentai anime/play the hentai games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:32:14 2015 No.13823204 >>13823198 Watching piss drinking porn so my body is ready for best eroge ever created.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:36:31 2015 No.13823234 >>13823204 >best eroge ever created >by moogy >company: TLWiki I can see it happening.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:38:47 2015 No.13823244 >>13823234 MG partners with Frontwing on an expanded remake of TBEE to sell on Steam.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:45:38 2015 No.13823280 >>13823189 I'm not sure if that's sarcasm/a meme since I don't know anything about Ikikoi, but I did see people in /vn/ saying something similar.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:46:44 2015 No.13823283 >>13823189 bwahahahaha

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:47:21 2015 No.13823287 >>13823198 If you like Trigun, try out Blood Blockade Battlefront (Kekkai Sensen) as well, it's by the same guy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:49:01 2015 No.13823293 I'm looking forward to MG licensing the one true kamige: https://vndb.org/v14838

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:50:24 2015 No.13823300 >>13823293 >dark theme welp this is it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 23:51:32 2015 No.13823303 >>13823198 Outside Ruby Skye nightclub in San Francisco. A dj that's a friend of mine is playing. I plan on drinking, doing blow, and constantly checking this thread and the transcript without getting caught and outted

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 00:01:08 2015 No.13823338 >>13823287 I'd check it out. Got Berserker, Rose of Versailles and NGE to watch next, I'm watching a lot of classic anime because the message it brings across is pretty nostalgic. >>13823303 Get a loli too so you could spice things up a bit.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 00:10:30 2015 No.13823375

>>13823338
Mm, true. If you have a lot of time you might also be interested in Legend of the Galactic Heroes. 110 episodes but arguably THE quintessential classic. But it's understandably hard to want to sit down for that when there's a bunch of interesting shorter stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 00:11:48 2015 No.13823380 /a/ pls

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 00:25:04 2015 No.13823416

>>13823380
Ha, I wish discussions were always this civil on /a/. Ironically, some of the best discussion is found in general threads for the lesser watched shows, like Ushio and Tora (unsurprisingly one of the best things airing right now, since it's based on a manga from the 90s).

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 00:25:30 2015 No.13823418

>>13823375
I might be able to endure it. I watched Monster for a few days straight. The suspense and psychological drama was impressive. Sitting through the original DBZ with 10 episode fight scenes was cool too.The way I see it, not much people could sit down patiently and enjoy stuff like that. IMO 70% of anime fans pretty much watch shounen anime these days while the 30% like myself take the time to enjoy a long, dramatic seinen anime. Different people different tastes, I suppose. /a/ is a good example

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 00:31:37 2015 No.13823435 >>13823418 If you liked Monster you should watch Master Keaton. It's by the same guy but it's the episodic adventures of an ex-SAS insurance investigator.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 00:35:50 2015 No.13823449

>>13823418
That's pretty true too. I'm open to trying all sorts of stuff myself so really for me it ends up being a matter of what I commit my time to. Of course, there's a lot of different stuff even within demographics, like Hunter x Hunter 2011, which is shounen but ends up subverting a whole bunch of the shounen tropes in pretty unexpected ways. So even though I wouldn't have expected to like a shounen this much, it became pretty much my favorite anime ever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 00:45:09 2015 No.13823472 Only 15 minutes until the panel starts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 00:46:58 2015 No.13823479 Dildoanon here. Excited to give my own small part of the panel in a few minutes. Unfortunately I was told too late to bring my tuxedo and wings, no acquisitions cosplay, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 00:52:14 2015 No.13823506 >>13823479 So who's gonna cosplay Dora and his centipedes?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 00:52:35 2015 No.13823509 Any links to a livestream? MG said on twitter that they're gonna have "awesome announcements", let's see the quality and determine if we could trust what they say.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 00:54:02 2015 No.13823516 >>13823509 This very thread, with a bit of ctrl+f

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 00:55:59 2015 No.13823521 >>13823509 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/animecons-industry2

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 00:56:15 2015 No.13823524 >>13823509 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/animecons-industry2

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 00:57:33 2015 No.13823532 >>13823521 >>13823524 Thanks, missed it earlier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:00:36 2015 No.13823537 File: 75 KB, 1280x720, Mangagamer panel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And here... we... go.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:00:45 2015 No.13823538 Is live!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:03:34 2015 No.13823550 They are talking about some fucking drama, wheres my chinese porn games?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:04:21 2015 No.13823552 >>13823509 Also http://bayoab.info/live/live2.php?panel=0&refresh=1

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:04:30 2015 No.13823553 >>13823479 Good luck, balista dude. You're my new favorite Mangagamer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:06:22 2015 No.13823562 This is really cringe inducing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:08:38 2015 No.13823572 >>13823521 >>13823524 It's live now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:08:38 2015 No.13823573 HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE! #albatrossskybutlers

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:08:46 2015 No.13823574 They said it. Albatross Sky Butlers is real.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:08:56 2015 No.13823576 >>13823562 >>13823550 Just making sure, but you two aren't retards who think the recorded crunchyroll panel from earlier is the mangagamer panel right? No one could be that dumb right? Because the mangagamer panel hasn't started yet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:10:23 2015 No.13823580 >>13823576 It has started. Try refreshing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:11:01 2015 No.13823583 >i worked on a bunch of nukige sounds like mangagamer

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:11:19 2015 No.13823585 >>13823576 No need to be rude. Do I really have to say that I was talking about Crunchyroll?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:11:20 2015 No.13823584 >>13823580 It started as I posted that, but check the timestamps of their posts against the "it's live now"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:16:55 2015 No.13823598 Glancing over lolige in front of a crowd of people like pros

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:17:37 2015 No.13823599 Kuroinu music is cool.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:17:56 2015 No.13823600 why is this fag not pointing at the damn screen

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:18:18 2015 No.13823602 >>13823599 The only thing that is cool in whole game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:18:39 2015 No.13823604 >>13823600 Because of the porn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:18:40 2015 No.13823605 >>13823600 porn is icky and he doesn't want to risk the handful of people watching reporting his account

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:18:50 2015 No.13823606 >>13823600 They can't show porn on stream, so he turns the camera away.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:19:06 2015 No.13823608 >>13823600 too lewd

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:20:49 2015 No.13823615 >story oriented >go go nippon

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:21:14 2015 No.13823617 double the content? That brings GGN up to almost half a real title

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:21:35 2015 No.13823619 >>13823615 You found the joke, good work.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:21:35 2015 No.13823620 >>13823615 Did Doddler make the script?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:21:41 2015 No.13823621 >>13823615 It kinda is story oriented, compared to nukige.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:21:49 2015 No.13823622 I spilled the spaghetti, anons ;_; I'm not good with public speaking...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:21:49 2015 No.13823623 File: 343 KB, 654x346, aud.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:22:23 2015 No.13823624 >>13823615 Yeah. That's why you need to take everything Mangagamer staff says about announcing full games and non-nukige with a gigantic grain of salt.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:22:41 2015 No.13823626 >>13823621 Wrong, most nukige have deeper and more interesting story than GGN.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:22:49 2015 No.13823627 >>13823622 I'm pretty sure anyone would have difficulty talking about the plot of Free Friends to an audience brah

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:23:04 2015 No.13823630 is this a real thread are you speople serious

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:23:24 2015 No.13823632 >>13823622 Shoulda brought a comfort cucumber

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:24:14 2015 No.13823638 Wait, did they say cafe is already done translating Myth?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:25:10 2015 No.13823643 >>13823638 No, he's doing the translation, and currently working on it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:26:01 2015 No.13823646 >>13823643 Oh, I thought I heard them say something about him done and thought it seemed quick as fuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:26:16 2015 No.13823647 >>13823638 I think so. He likely got it out of the way so that he could focus on Kuroinu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:26:26 2015 No.13823648 Come on MG, you know what we want.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:26:29 2015 No.13823649 >>13823638 He said over half I believe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:26:39 2015 No.13823652 >>13823646 In progress.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:27:26 2015 No.13823657 >>13823649 Can confirm he said half.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:28:12 2015 No.13823658 >>13823622 I think you're actually pretty well spoken, all things considered. I'm also impressed at how discreetly you typed that post because I was paying attention to you and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:29:40 2015 No.13823662 >>13823622 ... Who are you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:30:24 2015 No.13823666 >>13823662 The Fellatio Editor.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:31:43 2015 No.13823672 What's with the huge shadow in the middle of the screen. It's bothering the HECK out of me and my autism

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:31:59 2015 No.13823674 >>13823662 He's the guy who edited free friends and sucked off a cucumber in the process of doing so. Also, half hour mark already. If mangagamer's got five announcements, they better get going if they want QA too

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:35:05 2015 No.13823685 Huh. Why did they pan the camera away?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:35:29 2015 No.13823686 >>13823685 Porn. Its euphoria

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:35:55 2015 No.13823688 >>13823685 Euphoria is to hard core for USTREAM

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:36:03 2015 No.13823689 >>13823685 Euphoria on screen. One way ticket to bansville if you show that on UStream.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:36:17 2015 No.13823690 >>13823674 They'll only do Q&A if they have time. At this rate they'll run out of time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:37:21 2015 No.13823695 Which one is he? the one on the right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:37:42 2015 No.13823696 >"poop loop" >"That sounds amazing"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:38:12 2015 No.13823698 >22:36:35 <bay\|Ota\|Mangagamer> Euphoria killed my inner child.... if you like your content dark and grizzly and filled with all kinds of extreme stuff... then it's happening My sides.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:38:15 2015 No.13823699 >>13823658 Camera attention? >>13823658 The literal redshirt. >>13823674 Panel before us took forever to clear, and left the tech in a mess. Started really late.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:38:51 2015 No.13823702 You forget about how many games MG has coming out when you're not forced to sit through the OP of every one of them

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:41:05 2015 No.13823708 Hurry the fuck up, MG. It's been 40 minutes already.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:41:31 2015 No.13823711 >recap Jesus fuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:41:47 2015 No.13823712 Oh no, they forgot the yearly DC3 recap

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:42:22 2015 No.13823715 Doddler, if you're reading this hack them and make their new announcements come up on the projector like the good boy you are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:42:34 2015 No.13823717 >>13823708 It will take like ten seconds for them to actually announce the new titles so I can see why they want to bloviate a bit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:42:36 2015 No.13823718 >>13823702 This is why I stopped going to industry panels years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:43:02 2015 No.13823720 You guys disgust me. You'd be better of in /cgl/ or /b/ or wherever you go when you're a filthy normal attending conventions and porn game panels.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:43:14 2015 No.13823722 42 minutes, 0 new announcements made. How much do we want to bet that 4 of the new announcements will be something like Umineko 1-4?

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:43:19 2015 No.13823724

>>13823708

If you wanna ride the straight dip you can try refreshing

http://mangagamer.org/announcements/images/otakon-1.jpg
http://mangagamer.org/announcements/images/otakon-2.jpg
http://mangagamer.org/announcements/images/otakon-3.jpg
http://mangagamer.org/announcements/images/otakon-4.jpg
http://mangagamer.org/announcements/images/otakon-5.jpg

to see the second they get uploaded

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:43:40 2015 No.13823727 >>13823720 Nobody's attending, that's why we're here watching the stream

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:44:16 2015 No.13823729 >>13823717 If they play the OP for each one like they have for all the other shit, then they're already basically out of time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:45:06 2015 No.13823732 >>13823729 if they play the OP for all the AX titles and their new titles they'll be a half hour overtime

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:45:49 2015 No.13823734 >>13823729 last 5 seconds will the new announcements

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:45:51 2015 No.13823736 MG scored with Alicesoft, SP with Key. Who won the better partner?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:46:14 2015 No.13823738 They got sidestories for Himawari. Really fucking great job here, MG.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:46:14 2015 No.13823739 See you guys tomorrow when they finally get around to their new shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:46:35 2015 No.13823741 >>13823732 I don't think anyone is coming after them, so it's all good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:47:02 2015 No.13823744 >>13823736 Key consistently produces kamige, Alicesoft makes shallow porn trying to pass as video games. Sekai Project got Key's most prominent VN immediately, Mangagamer couldn't get Rance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:47:50 2015 No.13823747 >>13823736 All Key titles have been translated already, no? Seems pretty clear MG had the better announcement.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:47:56 2015 No.13823749 >>13823729 >>13823732 Just called to skip all remaining vids until new announcements... Bit late now though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:48:00 2015 No.13823751 >>13823736 Mangagamer, because MG will actually localize more Alicesoft games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:48:40 2015 No.13823755 >>13823736 >Jew project >Releasing untranslated stuff All they do is release shit that already got translated. I cant wait for the Little busters and rewrite kickstarters so I can pay for shit that already got translated ages ago!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:48:49 2015 No.13823758 Real announcements.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:49:44 2015 No.13823761 inb4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YUub07TQUo this plays

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:49:48 2015 No.13823762 >>13823758 And more videos.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:50:11 2015 No.13823763 >Supipara counts as one of the 5 Disappointing but expected

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:50:14 2015 No.13823764 >>13823758 Not quite

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:50:17 2015 No.13823765 >>13823758 >"real" announcements supipara

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:50:28 2015 No.13823769 Supipara Ep.1 confirmed for an announcement. 4 left

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:50:35 2015 No.13823771 >>13823758 Supipara isn't a real announcement if it was announced last year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:50:46 2015 No.13823772 So supipara was an announcement. Meh.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:50:50 2015 No.13823774 >>13823763 Shocking.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:51:03 2015 No.13823776 File: 264 KB, 1245x860, Clipboard02 cvc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13820537 >Supipara is not going to be one of the five games, just a bonus mention BTFO

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:51:05 2015 No.13823777 >>13823736 alicesoft games >>>> key

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:51:19 2015 No.13823778 >>13823755 >rewrite You sure Romeo's gonna cooperate?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:51:51 2015 No.13823781 >>13823769 Announcement #2, Supipara Ep 2. Announcement #3, rerelease KiraKira

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:52:11 2015 No.13823783 I would assume they're announcing it because they finally got it funded. Good fucking luck making on it to $200K though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:52:25 2015 No.13823784 109K on the fundraiser

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:53:08 2015 No.13823788 MG, move the fuck on

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:53:08 2015 No.13823789 I hope they're saving the best for last.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:53:18 2015 No.13823790 YURIREI

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:53:18 2015 No.13823791 Christ. I think they're somehow managing to make the game sound even shittier than it was, if that's even possible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:53:26 2015 No.13823792 >>13823783 Eden will continue to sell halfway decently when it gets a discount during steam events, and Supipara will sell enough as well to get to chapter 2, most likely.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:53:35 2015 No.13823793 Yurirei, to the surprise of no one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:53:50 2015 No.13823795 >>13823790 Get hype!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:54:18 2015 No.13823798 >>13823790 What does everyone think of the title Kindred Spirits?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:54:25 2015 No.13823800 Don't forget that they're still distinctly lacking yaoi this con season so far. You've got to assume that's one or two.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:55:10 2015 No.13823803 >>13823798 "lesbians on the roof" is a better title. it's more straight to the point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:55:24 2015 No.13823807 POLTERDYKES

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:55:27 2015 No.13823808 Shut the fuck up, Maria.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:55:36 2015 No.13823809 PROPELLER

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:55:41 2015 No.13823810 Tokyo Babel https://vndb.org/v9205

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:55:42 2015 No.13823811 >>13823798 >Yuri Into the trash it goes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:55:46 2015 No.13823812 Propeller Tokyo Babel. Well, thats cool enough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:55:55 2015 No.13823814 Tokyo Babel from Propeller!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:56:01 2015 No.13823815 >>13823798 I'll just call it Yurirei

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:56:28 2015 No.13823819 Hahahaha. MG site fucked up. The Shadows of Pygmalion, and Tokyo Babel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:56:35 2015 No.13823820 >>13823808 Stay sour, /haniho/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:56:41 2015 No.13823821 >>13823807 I like this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:56:42 2015 No.13823823 Uh, holy shit. I totally made up that rumor about the partnership with Propeller. That's a pretty amazing coincidence that it actually happened.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:56:43 2015 No.13823824 >>13823811 But it's Liar-soft

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:57:00 2015 No.13823825 >>13823807 My sides

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:57:01 2015 No.13823826 >chuuni shit 0 for 3 so far

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:57:06 2015 No.13823828 File: 109 KB, 975x729, oops.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That accidental drop.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:57:30 2015 No.13823831 The http://mangagamer.org/announcements/ site also shown https://vndb.org/v12072 for a while. So you're probably getting that too, EOP friends.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:58:12 2015 No.13823832 So that's all of them. Supipara, Yurirei, Tokyo Babylon, Shadows of Pygmalion, and Aoiro Rinne.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:59:22 2015 No.13823840 >>13823832 Aoiro Rinne is a fucking downer

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 01:59:58 2015 No.13823843 >>13823832 So I was right, it was only 1 new partner with two games. Though both are all ages, so whatever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:00:07 2015 No.13823846 Propeller has pretty good games. Ayakashibito was a great read as well. It's good to see more games from them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:00:11 2015 No.13823847 File: 1004 KB, 360x360, mg employees all week.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:00:15 2015 No.13823848 still hoping for dies irae

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:00:58 2015 No.13823852 >>13823832 Tokyo Babel is definitely the highlight for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:01:19 2015 No.13823855 >>13823840 >>13823832 Aoiro would be a new partner, and they said only two games were new partners, so it's not that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:01:30 2015 No.13823857 >liscensing the worst propeller game For what purpose?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:02:01 2015 No.13823860 >>13823832 m8

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:02:02 2015 No.13823861 >>13823846 I wish the same person was translating them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:02:11 2015 No.13823862 >>13823846 Maybe we can get Chrono Belt or Asairo later

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:02:30 2015 No.13823863 PE Fandisc

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:02:32 2015 No.13823864 Christ, a fandisk.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:02:43 2015 No.13823867 So. In the end it was shit right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:02:44 2015 No.13823868 Neat, Evangile FD.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:02:46 2015 No.13823870 sweet, fandisc to a shit tier moege can't wait

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:02:50 2015 No.13823871 23:01:13 <bay\|Ota\|Mangagamer> Moon Stone 23:01:23 <bay\|Ota\|Mangagamer> WHappiness Princess Evangile

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:03:07 2015 No.13823873 >"I wouldn't expect the evangile fandisc" - doddler

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:03:16 2015 No.13823874 >>13823870 I liked PE though, it was pretty comfy. And the fandisc is going to be pretty necessary with Ruriko's route being in there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:03:25 2015 No.13823875 Everything but the fandisc is all ages

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:03:34 2015 No.13823877 Well, this was somehow even more pathetic than I expected.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:03:57 2015 No.13823879 >Two games from the same new partner I don't like it for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:04:03 2015 No.13823880 So a partnership with Propeller, Yurirei and that's it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:04:04 2015 No.13823881 >>13823875 Yurirei is 18+ too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:04:36 2015 No.13823884 >>13823867 Total shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:05:01 2015 No.13823886 >>13823776 If I'd known their announcements were going to be so rushed I probably would not have said this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:05:13 2015 No.13823888 File: 260 KB, 1084x635, a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Uf, so that's all. So any of you EOP friends that were hyped for Dies Irae or Muramasa here? What are your feelings? Deep down you knew it's too good to be true?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:05:19 2015 No.13823889 >>13823884 What's wrong with Propeller and Liar-soft? Not moogy-approved enough?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:05:23 2015 No.13823890 So the only non-all-ages titles from MangaGamer announced this summer were Beat Blades Haruka, Yurirei, and Princess Evangile fandisk?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:05:25 2015 No.13823891 >>13823875 Can't say Doddler wasn't wrong, they really didn't announce anything like a nukige at otacon

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:05:38 2015 No.13823894 it's okay. yuri ghosts and chuuni shit. actually pretty happy about this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:05:51 2015 No.13823898 But at least Baldr Sky's being translated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:05:54 2015 No.13823899 >>13823888 Are any of these good? I haven't heard of a single one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:05:59 2015 No.13823900 >>13823889 Actually Liar-soft is on top of moogy list.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:06:00 2015 No.13823901 >>13823881 You're right. I must have been confusing it with something else.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:06:11 2015 No.13823905 File: 407 KB, 250x250, gif.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thank fuck I started learning Japanese

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:06:20 2015 No.13823906

We got shafted really hard. Panel before us ended late and dragged their feet clearing out, then left tech in shambles forcing us to burn even more time getting it working.

I'll answer what questions I can, but my knowledge and clearances are very limited.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:06:29 2015 No.13823907 File: 695 KB, 967x614, new.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] MG, you disappointed me. I know not to trust your word next time when you say "awesome announcements". My question is, are both new partners Propeller?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:06:31 2015 No.13823908 >>13823879 Maybe the fact that they are only the okay and the worst game from the company will cheer you up a bit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:06:38 2015 No.13823909 >>13823832 not even aoiro rinne

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:06:53 2015 No.13823910 >>13823888 I was also pretty hyped for Yurirei and am happy they announced W Happiness sooner than expected, so it's all good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:06:58 2015 No.13823911 >>13823899 Yurirei is pretty good, no idea about the Propeller chuunige. But, then, asking if something is good is never going to lead to any accurate answers

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:06:59 2015 No.13823912 The hype was too strong, there was no way it could live up to the challenge Wonder who's doing evangile though? BDH?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:07:00 2015 No.13823913 >>13823899 Tokyo Babel is good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:07:05 2015 No.13823914 >>13823890 For Summer yeah, but they also announced Kuroinu and three low tier nukige earlier in the year. I do feel like they are going away from 18+ titles though. But hey, at least people can't say MG only brings over nukige this year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:07:18 2015 No.13823917 File: 200 KB, 500x276, expectations.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:07:21 2015 No.13823918 >>13823908 Thanks friend, that really helped

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:07:44 2015 No.13823920 >>13823888 The only thing I wanted is stuff i'd read Yuri stuff is always boring and the same stuff every time so I wont be touching the yuri titles. I guess 3 out of 5 isn't so bad

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:07:47 2015 No.13823921

>>13823899
Supipara tanked in Japan.
Tokyo Babel and Pygmalion are some of the more boring works from propeller-- be excited for Asairo maybe later on
Yurirei isn't what you think when you usually think Liar-soft either
Evangile was a subpar moege anyways

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:07:52 2015 No.13823923 >>13823913 That is not the commonly held opinion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:07:53 2015 No.13823922 >>13823899 Yeah, Yurirei is a quality yuri title, Supipara is amazing eye candy and both Propeller ones are good chuuniges (Tokyo Babel more than Negai no Kakera to Hakugin no Agreement).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:07:53 2015 No.13823924 >>13823906 You could have stood to skip a few more openings from the games we've seen a million times, I think.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:08:00 2015 No.13823925 >>13823899 Only yurirei is actually good, the rest are meh

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:08:07 2015 No.13823927 Having both Propeller titles be their all-ages titles is going a little too all-in on Steam, isn't it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:08:45 2015 No.13823933 >>13823908 >Okay and worst Which one is which?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:08:54 2015 No.13823936 File: 24 KB, 578x217, g.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Look at this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:09:03 2015 No.13823939 >Everything is all ages except the fandisc and yuri titles Could this be any more disappointing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:09:09 2015 No.13823940 >>13823907 I don't think they actually promised two new partners though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:09:24 2015 No.13823943 >>13823899 Of course you haven't. Your kind has only heard of the mega hyped titles like Dies Irae and so you call Himawari a "no-name lolige".

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:09:38 2015 No.13823944 >>13823906 Who's translating what? I imagine Maria's on yurirei, DS55 is probably on supipara, and the rest is?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:10:09 2015 No.13823946 I can't stand chuuni shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:10:18 2015 No.13823947 >>13823906 I guess the answer you can give is "we would love to work more with propeller in the future" but seriously was there no consideration to picking up Evolimit or another 18+ title?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:10:18 2015 No.13823948 >>13823939 hey, one of the all ages is pretty houjo ai too

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:10:24 2015 No.13823949 >>13823924 We would have had a healthy 20 minutes of questions out of an hour panel, had we not gotten powerfucked by the guys before us. Welcome to being the final panel of the night, I suppose.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:10:25 2015 No.13823950 >>13823940 Nope, everyone just assumed they had two partners when no one from MG ever said the two "new partner" slots were from different partners.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:10:42 2015 No.13823953 >>13823936 Yep. Tokyo Babel was the AWESOME NEW GAME THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR. Rocking that 73 on EGS.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:11:17 2015 No.13823955

>>13823921
>be excited for Asairo maybe later on
Be excited for 1000000000 TL notes, you mean?
>Yurirei isn't what you think when you usually think Liar-soft either
Liar-soft is such a bizarre company that I don't even know what the usual thing is to think of with them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:11:21 2015 No.13823956 >>13823948 Is yuri really that popular in the west?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:11:35 2015 No.13823957 >>13823914 Yeah, seems like thanks to Steam not only is nukige not the best way to make money, every 18+ title that's not a total nukige has to have an all-ages release too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:11:46 2015 No.13823959 >>13823953 73 hardly seems bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:11:52 2015 No.13823961 >>13823953 My faith in the localization industry is slowly fading. I hope JAST makes up for MG's shortcomings.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:12:03 2015 No.13823962 >>13823950 Having two game announcements from one brand new partner is highly unusual.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:12:27 2015 No.13823963 >>13823961 >Jast >Ever releasing everything Hahahahahaha

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:12:27 2015 No.13823964 >>13823933 Tokyo Babel is okay, Negai no Kakera is fucking shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:13:15 2015 No.13823969 >>13823959 In EGS terms it is, but I'm not him, haven't played it, and don't take that shit too seriously

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:13:18 2015 No.13823970 >>13823961 lol they have enough on their hands, seeing as how they never release anything

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:13:25 2015 No.13823973 >>13823899 Tokyo Babel. I hate yurishits and those who say they are good so I tell you they are very bad. Princess Evangeline was mediocre at best, Supapira no idea.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:13:27 2015 No.13823974 >>13823963 Anything* Typing is hard

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:13:33 2015 No.13823975 File: 8 KB, 972x90, 456.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:13:37 2015 No.13823976 >>13823963 The worth will be worth it. They're the oldest and wisest company of them all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:13:39 2015 No.13823977 >>13823961 >I hope JAST makes up for MG's shortcomings. I hope your balls are ready to be blued

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:13:44 2015 No.13823978 >>13823961 JAST doesn't even have a panel at Otakon. Their big thing this weekend was... their Groupee VN bundle.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:14:34 2015 No.13823984 >>13823973 Supipara came out and nearly bankrupted minori.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:15:18 2015 No.13823988

>>13823959
Then you must not be familiar with EGS ratings. It's basically a 65-90 range. Very few games are 85+ and 70-75 is the range where about 99% of the bland, generic, run of the mill churned out moege live. If something ends up under 70, it's pretty much a critical bomb.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:15:29 2015 No.13823990 >>13823984 is the vn industry declining?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:15:40 2015 No.13823991 >>13823946 I cant stand you and you are still shitposting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:15:53 2015 No.13823994 >>13823984 It's not a full game, either, so make sure you buy it to get the next episode!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:16:07 2015 No.13823996 >>13823906 Who was that brony that walked to table at the middle of panel?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:16:16 2015 No.13823998 >>13823990 Would you buy an $80, unfinished, all ages moege?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:16:24 2015 No.13824000 >>13823990 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:16:41 2015 No.13824003 >>13823984 So I'll take its bad but with a lot of eyecandy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:16:43 2015 No.13824004 >>13823991 I've only posted twice

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:17:05 2015 No.13824006 Don't worry, Sekai Project will save the industry by announcing the dates for Kickstarters and announce that they're working with Degica to kickstart MLA too!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:17:37 2015 No.13824010 >>13823990 No, minori just tried to stop making games with those icky sex scenes. And it backfired. For their next 4 titles they're having crazy amount of sex scenes and it's all good again. >>13824003 Not bad, but see above.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:17:39 2015 No.13824011 >>13824003 What's eyecandy without ero?

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:18:15 2015 No.13824012

Tokyo Babel didn't get the exposure on egs because it was all ages. It's written by the same guy who wrote Ayakashibito, Evolimit, and Bullet Butlers, and is by no means inferior to any of them.

If anything, I'd say Bullet Butlers is the weakest of his works (MG probably went for Tokyo Babel because it was easy to adapt to steam).

Either way, this might promise more propeller games in the future, so action vn fans should have a reason to be excited.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:19:10 2015 No.13824018 >>13824012 It has a lot more ratings than a lot of games do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:19:10 2015 No.13824019 >>13824006 Nigga, I already read MLA like 3 times, what do I do? The faggots supporting it didn't even want KGNE to be translated as a stretch goal, they wanted the anime.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:19:25 2015 No.13824021 Supipara is trash so it really shouldn't be counted as an announcement

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:19:28 2015 No.13824022

>>13824006
MG is the only that can save anything

Moenovel mauls and rapes the corpse of everything they try to localize

JAST might have a lot of good stuff but never releases anything, im still waiting for seinarukana here and they didnt even announce the updated version for that.

Sekai project is too busy milking already translated stuff with kickstarters to bring stuff people actually want to read so they're out of the running too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:19:52 2015 No.13824024 >>13824010 >icky

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:20:00 2015 No.13824026 >>13824012 Going with games because they'd be easy to get on Steam is a trend that I really don't like and hope doesn't keep happening, looking at the big picture and all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:20:19 2015 No.13824029 >>13824011 Point taken my friend. >>13824012 Is the crossover between Bullet Buttlers and Ayakashibito any good? I would like that one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:20:26 2015 No.13824030 >>13824012 I hope MangaGamer does Bullet Butlers sometime despite it supposedly being the weakest. Because it's Bullet Butlers. I just have to see it for myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:20:29 2015 No.13824032 >>13824012 >>13823969 >>13823959 So what is the EG rating of the other 4 titles?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:20:44 2015 No.13824033 >>13824024 That was a parody of how some parts of the Western VN fanbase tends ot think about H scenes.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:20:49 2015 No.13824035

Supipara, Yurirei and Evangile FD were really obvious announcements
It is a letdown that August wasn't one of the new partners, I really want fucking Eustia. And I know is going to happen sooner or later, just hope it ends up on MG or JAST hands rather than being mutilated by Sekai.
Propeller is not a bad deal though, both games look interesting enough and if it means we can get Bullet Butlers and/or an official release of Ayakashibito (gimme that friggin Hounan route) eventually I'm all in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:21:52 2015 No.13824039 >>13824012 >Tokyo Babel didn't get the exposure on egs because it was all ages. Because Clannad and Rewrite rated medicore in EGS too, yep.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:22:08 2015 No.13824040 File: 21 KB, 756x383, asd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13824032 Tokyo Babel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:22:08 2015 No.13824041 >>13824033 Sorry, I just wanted to make sure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:22:52 2015 No.13824045 >>13824039 Key is the major fucking exception to a general rule

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:22:59 2015 No.13824046 Man there is gonna be a lot of shitposting in this thread about "VNs dying" for a while. Guess I'll come back tomorrow to discuss the new announcements with sane people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:23:12 2015 No.13824047 >>13824039 Those are Key games, so that's a very unfair comparison. Kind of like saying anime doesn't need sexualized characters because Miyazaki films don't do it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:24:20 2015 No.13824050 I have mixed feelings, I don't want MG to lose money or anything but I want them to be dissuaded from doing chuuni shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:24:38 2015 No.13824052 >>13824046 Hype is a helluva drug

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:24:57 2015 No.13824054 >>13823798 I love the title, actually. I like having an English title I can call a VN by, especially when it's its own clever wordplay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:25:09 2015 No.13824057 >>13824050 Screw that, I like chuuniu stuff and i'll support them

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:25:20 2015 No.13824058 >>13824050 Just kill yourself in front of MG office, that will sure show them.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:25:21 2015 No.13824059 [DELETED]

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>>13824032
>>13824040
Negai no Kakera to Hakugin no Agreement

Also if you don't know how to read it, the columns on the right go
>median rating
>average rating
>number of people who rated
>standard deviation
>most points given by someone
>least points given by someone
>people who game up
>people who backlogged it
>median play time

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:25:32 2015 No.13824061 >>13824054 But Yurirei is so cute sounding

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:25:35 2015 No.13824062 >>13824026 I want to say it was probably propeller that chose the titles and not MG. As is generally the case, I expect that the Japan side just wants money and steam is the best option for that

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:25:35 2015 No.13824063 >>13824046 Tomorrow is Sekai's panel so I don't think you're going to see what you want then either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:25:36 2015 No.13824064 >>13823861 Only because they did ikkikoi :>

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:25:40 2015 No.13824065 File: 53 KB, 738x344, cvbvnn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Listen to koestl

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:25:46 2015 No.13824066 http://mangagamer.org/announcements/ Kind of neat that all the games from Otakon and AX now have their own pages.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:26:12 2015 No.13824068 >>13824052 I'd imagine it's even worse in places like Fuwanovel. But seriously, two Propeller games at once is a pretty big fucking deal. Well done, MG.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:26:27 2015 No.13824070 >>13824066 If only they would let Good Haro to redesign main page too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:26:52 2015 No.13824071 >>13824022 Isn't the updated version of Sein just the game with all the fandiscs and the actual game content cut out? If so I'm glad they aren't bringing that over. Or is their a newer version?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:27:16 2015 No.13824073 >>13824063 Oh, that's okay, Sekai sucks anyway. I just actually like MangaGamer so that's why this bugs me. And NOW I should go.

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>>13824059
Yurirei

This one also has "how long it took to become interesting" listed as second from the bottom. So as you can see, the game takes 1 hout to become interesting and lasts about 20 hours.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:28:05 2015 No.13824079 >>13824068 Will sure is a strange company License their shit to jast, start their own english company, and now license their shit to mangagamer

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:28:09 2015 No.13824080 >>13824071 I hear the newer editions improve on a lot of stuff but im not sure

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:28:12 2015 No.13824081 >>13824068 >two mediocre chuunishit games >big deal lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:28:20 2015 No.13824082 >>13823956 Isn't Propeller almost dead anyway? Their recent games got shitted on so bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:28:22 2015 No.13824083 >>13824061 I'd say Kindred Spirits does a good job of retaining the cuteness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:28:56 2015 No.13824088 File: 29 KB, 957x395, asdsdf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13824076 Supipara

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:29:18 2015 No.13824090 euphoria release window when?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:29:31 2015 No.13824092 >>13824081 If it means more Propeller it could be. Though you're probably used to hearing that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:30:21 2015 No.13824098 File: 24 KB, 873x344, sdfg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13824088 And the fandisc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:31:10 2015 No.13824101 >>13824082 Yes, they are following Xuse to the grave.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:31:10 2015 No.13824102 Did MG really bitch about other people fucking them over. They didn't even start 5 minutes late. Typical assholes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:31:18 2015 No.13824103 >>13824012 Higashide is so fucking shit though, okay that's a bit too harsh. But he is very average and his chuuni shit is boring.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:31:24 2015 No.13824104 >>13823946 >>13824050 >>13824081 Oh look, moebuta is throwing a tantrum.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:31:39 2015 No.13824107 >>13824098 Post PE's original one too

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:31:55 2015 No.13824109 >>13824098 >>13824088 >>13824076 >>13824059 >>13824040 >Lesbians on the rooftop has the highest score I dont know if I can take these scores seriously

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:32:36 2015 No.13824111 >>13824109 Just tells you how bad the other stuff is

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:32:38 2015 No.13824113 >>13824109 Believe it, motherfucker.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:32:51 2015 No.13824114 >>13824109 Why? It really is the best game out of this set.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:32:56 2015 No.13824116 >>13824104 You some kinda faggot son?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:33:01 2015 No.13824118 >>13824109 It's not exactly being put up against high-profile games

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:33:23 2015 No.13824122 The EGS obsession some people have is pretty pathetic. How about judging the games based on playing them instead of looking at some stupid numbers?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:33:59 2015 No.13824125 >>13824109 Because it's objectively the best out of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:34:29 2015 No.13824127 >>13824122 EOPs only have general consensus to go by

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:34:35 2015 No.13824128 >>13824101 Quickly, let's try to get JAST to convince them to get Saihate no Ima translated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:34:41 2015 No.13824129 >>13824122 >play game and judge it >OH YEAH, THAT'S JUST UR OPINION >here is the aggregate opinion of many people >OH YEAH, PLAY IT URSELF

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:36:18 2015 No.13824142

>>13824121
Damn, the nips really didn't like PE. I thought it was a good moege and had the best lead-ups into H-scenes out of anything I've read. When I compare it to Hoshizora the romance was done way better, although the overall plot and routes weren't as good of course.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:36:47 2015 No.13824143 >>13824142 They get a lot of stuff like it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:36:48 2015 No.13824144 >>13824057 ME TOO.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:36:53 2015 No.13824145 >>13824114 He's just a typical yuri hater. Ignore him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:37:01 2015 No.13824147 http://strawpoll.me/5021870

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:37:25 2015 No.13824149 >>13824143 That's drastically understating it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:38:09 2015 No.13824152 >>13824122 I agree, EGS really means nothing when you might like something that has a "bad" rating and hate something regarded as the best of the best.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:38:12 2015 No.13824153 >>13824109 Dont take it seriously and believe this idiot posting defending their yurishit. >>13824122 and this. There are plenty of title I liked despite bad score, just to go by some got bad score for not having when they expected it to have.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:38:14 2015 No.13824155 >>13824142 It has >魅力的な攻略不可キャラクター as the second top voted tag. They don't like when it happens. Of course the fandisc fixes it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:38:22 2015 No.13824156 >>13824129 The point is to play it and form your own opinion instead of getting your opinion from other people. I'm not talking about discussing it with other people, I don't care about that. Just learn to think for yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:38:58 2015 No.13824158 >>13824142 That was probably your third or fourth moege. In Japan, it's about their 9,712nd.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:39:54 2015 No.13824164 >>13824156 Not to rain on your rant parade, but I'd say most people will probably play those titles for themselves anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:40:10 2015 No.13824166 >>13824156 No, you're just an insecure little bitch who gets upset whenever anybody says anything mean because you want your little Tumblr hugbox.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:40:27 2015 No.13824169 >>13824158 This is a important point. Here we dont really get a lot of moeges and its nice when one gets brought over. Japan gets like ten titles of varying quality every week.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:40:48 2015 No.13824171

>>13824155
Oh, so the exact same thing that the English people were complaining about with Ruriko.

Don't the nips tend to review bomb games that have scorned them slightly? Like flooding Amazon with 1 star reviews to bring the score down? Is it like that on EGS too?

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:41:30 2015 No.13824173

>>13824142
EGS scores aren't that reliable, it's like calling metacritic user scores a reliable way to judge a game's worth. You can judge critical reception sure but it's not very accurate as to whether you'll like it or not. EGS users tends to not like stuff that falls too far from their comfort zone, and tend downvote games very harshly for weird reasons, such not having a route for characters they like... something that could certainly have happened in Evangile.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:41:41 2015 No.13824175 >>13824166 >Someone says scores dont mean a thing >OH YEAH WELL YOU BELONG IN TUMBLR You have issues, seriously. Do you go on /a/ to tell everyone how the MAL scores are the objective opinion of everyone that watches anime too?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:42:05 2015 No.13824177 >>13824169 Just think about how many shitty harem anime VN adaptations there are. It's like a dozen a year, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:42:09 2015 No.13824178 >>13824066 It's nice that everything has proper English logo and title too. What's going on with MangaGamer?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:42:22 2015 No.13824181 >>13824155 Which character? everyone in that game was boring as fuck tbh

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:43:05 2015 No.13824182 >>13824178 Someone who cares was let to design pages.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:43:05 2015 No.13824183 >>13824177 I watch all of them and like them

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:43:07 2015 No.13824184 >>13824173 >All of Japan gets together in a conspiracy to downvote games Okay.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:44:58 2015 No.13824193 I liked anime expo more, Himawari looks more appealing than the stuff announced here.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:45:09 2015 No.13824195

>>13824175
You're the kind of bitch who would tell someone to watch Sharknado 48: Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen Go To The Mall and See a Shark because everything deserves a chance and you can't trust anybody's opinions.

Because you're an insecure little bitch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:45:42 2015 No.13824198 >>13824184 >thinks EGS represents all of Japan. lmao. EGS is a niche community within a niche market with their own specific tastes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:45:58 2015 No.13824201 >>13824147 Please add "was funny"

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:46:12 2015 No.13824202

Generally if EGS has something at 60 level, its good indication that game is shit, but otherwise score doesn't mean anything indeed. You should read reviews instead and check why people vote that way, because most of the time things that japs name as advantage are actually disadvantage for me and vise versa.
After all, they have Chusingura rated as absolute masterpiece yet its complete trash.

Also, there's huge crowd who downvote all-ages games.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:47:51 2015 No.13824211

>In a world much like our own, Hajiro Mina was an ordinary highschool girl. But one day, she awakens to an ability to see the inhuman beings lurking in mankind’s shadows–“Puppets”, powerful entities engaged in a secret war for control of the world. Hurled into this hidden battle, Mina is forced to join an organization specializing in the eradication of Puppets and fight to protect herself and those she cares about. Yet… one question still remains–who is controlling the Puppets? And to what end?

Sounds like the description for a boring shonen manga

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:48:39 2015 No.13824215 >>13824201 strawpoll doesn't work like that And was it really funny? I mean, it had it's moments like the guy who was super hyped for euphoria >>13823696 and maria's yurirei pitch made me crack a smile, but beyond that... Mostly just business

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:49:48 2015 No.13824216 >>13824182 Does Haro do the logo design too? God damn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:49:54 2015 No.13824217 >>13824211 Does it still count as shonen if its yuri? I like generic shonen stuff but yuri puts me off because it tends to make things boring most of the time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:51:01 2015 No.13824219 >>13824202 This. EGS is a hivemine.

balistafreak Sat Jul 25 02:52:57 2015 No.13824226
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inb4 namefagging

Back in hotel room. We got bullied out of Q & A time, so if any of you want to ask anything I can try to answer. If you try and ask me anything on a management/executive level I won't even be able to answer, I literally don't know.

I'm okay with shitposting too though

I'm okay with the amount of chuuni stuff

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:53:32 2015 No.13824229 >>13824195 It's clear that your posts are the only ones displaying insecurity. I'm guessing you were called a little bitch a lot as a child.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:53:34 2015 No.13824230 >>13824217 I just meant the story sounds like a standard shonen story - character gets special powers and is forced to join a super secret organization. I don't know what the story is actually like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:53:51 2015 No.13824231 >>13824226 Who are you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:54:26 2015 No.13824236 >>13824226 >>13824231 Someone that should use a trip probably

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:54:38 2015 No.13824237 >>13824226 You know what I wish this board had more of? Chuuniposting. I try to do it every so often but nobody ever joins in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:54:54 2015 No.13824240 >>13824226 Who's translating what Yurirei: Maria Supipara: DS55 Tokyo Babel: Conjuror Rest: ???

>>	Good Haro Sat Jul 25 02:55:00 2015 No.13824241 >>13824216 No, one of our image editors made the logos. I just put the sites together. Most of the staff collaborated on the translated titles for Yurirei and Negai no Kakera too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:56:45 2015 No.13824247 >>13824226 Did you bring your dildo to the convention?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 02:58:15 2015 No.13824250 >>13823537 Considering the reaction to the panel, I'd say this image turned out to be pretty appropriate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:00:08 2015 No.13824258 After thinking about it for a while, I guess the AX announcements and Yurirei are plenty enough for me. I'm not the target audience for the chuuni crap, steam is, so I can't really complain. I hope it doesn't become too common though.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:00:17 2015 No.13824260

>>13824012
The thing is that Tokyo Babel was their last game by that writer (and maybe his last VN title overall) and he then left propeller and gone freelance.
The latest propeller's game tried to emulate his style using 14 (!!!) writers and failed really hard at it (40/100 on EGS - the art was good but the writing was extremely bad). Maybe that's why they're trying so hard to make some money back by using Steam.

balistafreak !iK/S6sZnHA Sat Jul 25 03:02:09 2015 No.13824262
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>>13824229

I was, actually.

>>13824231
>>13824236

Sure.

>>13824237

You lost me.

>>13824240

I couldn't tell you because I don't know.

>>13824247

I'm still looking for the right one. Like a perfect waifu, I probably never will.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:02:55 2015 No.13824264 >>13824260 How is it possible for it to be that bad?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:02:56 2015 No.13824265 >>13824142 I liked the common route but the minute it branched into routes it dragged

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:03:10 2015 No.13824266 >>13823949 To be fair, he didn't get to show the last 15 minutes of his stuff. He got fucked by funi

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:04:31 2015 No.13824267 >>13824260 >14 writers I hope they fired whoever thought this was a good idea

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:07:00 2015 No.13824275

>>13824262
>I couldn't tell you because I don't know.

Man you're way too low on the totem pole to be able to answer anything interesting if you can't even do that.

How about you then? Editings not really worth tracking in the grand scheme of things, but what're you doing next? Yurirei? Or kouryuu think that's reserved for a "more experienced" editor?

Failing that, talk about anything interesting that might have been outside of the panel. I'm sure you can guess what'd be interesting

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:07:26 2015 No.13824277 >>13824264 >14 Writers >How is it possible for it to be that bad? Heh.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:08:35 2015 No.13824281
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>>13824266

Well, I mean, they COULD have taken the fall for us. If they were really, really nice. And selfless.

But realistically, that's how con panels work out. Cascading delays that result in the last guy getting rekt, and the tech staff aren't going to realistically put up with us, so they get the final say.

>>13824260
>>13824267

>14 writers attempting to emulate 1 writer

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:14:12 2015 No.13824293 >>13824266 Wait, it was Funi doing the previous panel? No fucking wonder. They're a scumbag company.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:14:25 2015 No.13824295 Somehow Mangagamer can afford to license titles with a bunch of named voice actors without a Kickstarter. Who knew it was possible!

balistafreak !iK/S6sZnHA Sat Jul 25 03:16:40 2015 No.13824299
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>>13824275
>>13824281

>low on totem pole

I talk to people on 4chan so maybe it's best that I be kept in the dark, lol.

>how about me

Me? I'm currently working on Kuroinu, which is a lonnnnnnnnnnng haul. I'm also slated for some other projects in the future, but I don't know them myself. I suspect that I'm going to know very soon though.

After both Free Friends and with Kuroinu occupying my plate for a long time, I'm actually looking to take something that's not superdark. Whether it'll be one of the chuuni titles or one of the other lighter titles that got announced recently, I couldn't tell you, though.

>interesting things

First experience working a con booth. Con customers are super interesting. I shilled so, so hard for Dengeki Stryker and Ef, and people who you could tell were hesitant about simply being caught near the Bukkake Ranch side of the products table ate it up. Apparently that's the opposite of the West Coast, where people head straight for that half the table and buy it without reserve. Something something, East Coast is more self-conscious about their tastes.

I got to describe Eroge! as "an eroge named Eroge! about people making an Eroge that showcases everything you could possibly find in an eroge". That brought smiles to people's faces. Humor makes people buy things.

I've worked retail before, but this kind of person-to-person sales where you pitch products based on your impression of the customer is actually kind of fun. Like selling a used car, I suppose.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:17:00 2015 No.13824300 >>13824295 Moreover, they can afford to license 2 of such titles at once (Himawari and Tokyo Babel).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:18:00 2015 No.13824304 >>13824299 > I'm currently working on Kuroinu, which is a lonnnnnnnnnnng haul. One dildo is not gonna cut it. You better request tools reimbursement from MG.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:20:10 2015 No.13824314 >>13824240 Pygmalion: BDH Evangile: ???

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:21:46 2015 No.13824320 >>13824314 Evangile probably by the original game translator whoever they are.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:21:52 2015 No.13824321

>>13824258
What! I exclaim loudly, striking a manly pose, like Sailor Mercury's. How dare you insinuate that our epic struggles are mere "chuuni crap!" My flaming fist roars a challenge at you! I, Lord Helldarkness Blackheart, will defeat you here and now to defend my honor! Eat this! Amazing Illusive Reality Blaaaaaaaaaaaaast!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:23:19 2015 No.13824326 >>13824320 I thought kou retired for jobs that actually pay decent money did mangagamer offer him a better rate? did kouryuu offer to suck him off on the side?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:25:00 2015 No.13824339 >>13824299 Wait, so MG hasn't even started on either of the Propeller games, and probably won't for a while if you expect to have a chance to work on them after you're done with that long-ass game? That's kind of disappointing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:26:07 2015 No.13824340 >>13824326 Uh, Kou and Kouryuu are the same person, so unless he's into autofellatio...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:26:43 2015 No.13824343 >>13824321 Kukuku, do you really think that you can just come here and just revolt in your misery in front of my presence? You better learn your place puny mortal. Open, Nocturnal Gate Overture!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:26:57 2015 No.13824345 >>13824340 I'm afraid they are not. Kou is some old friend of kouryuu's

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:28:17 2015 No.13824347 Shame that yuri-ish chuunige isn't 18+ I wouldn't mind see some of those characters naked

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:29:05 2015 No.13824352 >>13824347 It would probably be better if it was 18+ but yuri sex is always really boring and way too vanilla for me

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:29:23 2015 No.13824353 >>13824347 It still has some fanservice.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:30:26 2015 No.13824359

>>13824339

Editing is a lot faster than translating and they're both fairly considerable titles. Conjuror's already started on tokyo babel and assuming that he requests to be put on editing it in six months or so, it should line up about right.

It's best to keep in mind that none of these titles will likely be released this year or next (except for supipara). Mangagamer always gets the cocktease going early.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:30:33 2015 No.13824361 >>13824339 Conjureror is already translating Tokyo Babel.

balistafreak !iK/S6sZnHA Sat Jul 25 03:30:36 2015 No.13824363
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>>13824339

Editors have a less timeconsuming/easier job than translators (unless you have my autism) so they commonly handle multiple projects simultaneously. I actually started work on FF2, then added FF1 to my workload and worked on both in sync. After FF1 was done, I got the first bits of Kuroinu to start working on even while FF2 was unfinished. Now that I currently only have Kuroinu on my plate, I should expect to be offered/handed something soon enough.

Apparently some editors can even handle three or four at a time if it comes to that, but since I have fall classes coming up I doubt I'll get that greedy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:32:09 2015 No.13824372 >>13824363 What's your Japanese like?

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:32:25 2015 No.13824374

>>13824363
>Apparently some editors can even handle three or four at a time if it comes to that

Sounds lewd

>I should expect to be offered/handed something soon enough.

You can't even request titles yet? Man, is there anyone on the totem pool lower than you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:32:33 2015 No.13824375 >>13824363 You could help herkz with editing SubaHibi

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:32:35 2015 No.13824376 >>13824353 It will still be censored.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:33:26 2015 No.13824380 >>13824372 He's an editor so probably nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:33:30 2015 No.13824381 >>13824376 That word doesn't mean what you think it does.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:33:33 2015 No.13824382 >>13824363 You're a editor so can you answer why is that a lot of things usually get stuck at QC or editing when it comes to fan TLs or official TLs?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:35:20 2015 No.13824393 >>13824382 I'm guessing because translators are autistic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:35:25 2015 No.13824394 >>13824363 You are getting paid per project/per line?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:35:43 2015 No.13824398 >>13824352 The way I see it sex in yuri stories is more to further the story and character relationships than just fappability, which is why it's usually a bit plain even compared to other vanilla stories.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:39:38 2015 No.13824413

>>13824382

Not him, but for mangagamer titles that tend to get stuck at translation/editing 100%, it's that the japanese company is doing the insertion at their leisure(which is why despite being done first, it's looking like kns2 will beat euphoria, as doddler's handling everything)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:40:21 2015 No.13824416 >Editors Completely pointless if you have a TL who knows what they're doing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:41:07 2015 No.13824421 >>13824416 You don't understand how translation works.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:41:59 2015 No.13824426

>Tokyo Babel is a story born from the mind of Yuuichirou Higashide (Ayakashibito), one of the better known figures on the field of darker, action-oriented visual novels alongside talents such as Takashi Masada (Dies irae) and Kinoko Nasu (Fate/stay night).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:42:04 2015 No.13824427 >>13824416 Sadly, koestl is the only such TL out there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:42:16 2015 No.13824428 >>13824416 Just like authors and writers don't have editors, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:42:40 2015 No.13824429 >>13824416 Just like translators are pointless if you have a good machine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:43:22 2015 No.13824436 >>13824427 Koestl isn't even the best tl currently working in the industry. Lurk more.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:43:29 2015 No.13824437

>>13824426
Yeah, it's actually a pretty big deal. People are just eager to shit on anything that's not literally Dies Irae, but I can tell you that Tokyo Babel is amazing. Angels and devils fighting and shit and this awesome journey that's basically like The Dark Tower.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:43:45 2015 No.13824439 >>13824429 Just like writers are pointless if you have good imagination.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:44:17 2015 No.13824442 >>13824427 Is that a fact?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:44:29 2015 No.13824444 >>13824436 >Lurk more. Such an old meme. I feel like you aren't the best judge of translators.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:44:32 2015 No.13824445 >>13824428 Authors and writers are working from scratch, so that doesn't apply to translators unless they're inserting their own fanfiction

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:45:04 2015 No.13824448 Anyone checked /r/visualnovels already?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:46:28 2015 No.13824452 >>13824442 Yes. Literally the only one who is that competent.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:46:47 2015 No.13824453 >>13824448 who cares about reddit? even fuwanovel has more influence than them(aside from on dovac)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:47:19 2015 No.13824458 >>13824445 Translators have to write too. Unless you want literally translated garbage that reads terribly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:48:28 2015 No.13824463 >>13824452 I agree, Makoto sure is incompetent. That guy doesn't even include TL notes.

balistafreak !iK/S6sZnHA Sat Jul 25 03:49:58 2015 No.13824470
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>>13824372
>>13824380

Two years of college level, college level being five days a week for an hour of class a day with tons of self practice, group practice, and kanji drills. The first signs of KEY AIDS started showing up, so I decided to do something I always wanted instead of grindy college biology and threw it all away to enlist the Air Force, got stuck in the Air Force basic medical hold for like 7-8 months because KEY AIDS made a much stronger showing, now I'm back in college working towards psychology and keeping very close tabs on my health.

Working in this industry is my passion because I believe that if I should explode tomorrow, at least my name will be on something published that's of the multimedia type and genre I grew up with and loved.

Sometimes I look at the raw Japanese and make some calls. For example, a casual mode of speech on someone with a rough dialect, like most of the mercenaries of Kuroinu - they're getting a Southern accent with -in' and drawled vowels. But then another mercenary is using the formal modes in contrast, his　わかりました gets changed from "I got it." to "Understood.", which gives that one mercenary (and his lines in the same scene) a distinctly different flavor. Minor things like that, but they add up. I can't excavate any kind of deep meaning out of blocks of text with tons of kanji I don't know, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:54:57 2015 No.13824484 >>13824458 Or you just get a decent TL

balistafreak !iK/S6sZnHA Sat Jul 25 03:59:12 2015 No.13824497
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>>13824382

Sometimes someone jumps the gun when they see "100%" on the edited scripts, when the translator and the editor still need to go over the translation together. This is how the translator makes sure his/her editor isn't going insane and rewriting the entire plot into My Little Pony.

And then it has to get inserted/coded/hacked/ported/whatever the term is, like >>13824413 says, which can be a long wait. For fan groups, sometimes this step is a deal breaker, because they know how to rip the Japanese out of a game, but trying to put English back in breaks the engine in half, and then they just putter out and die because the engine was never designed to work with English. For example, there's a story of a game that had to get a variables redefinition every line just to display in English properly, because otherwise the english characters would get interpreted as coding and make the game explode. No way to do it automatically. I'd die trying to manually do that.

>>13824394

Payment is by volume of Japanese characters, meaning I don't get paid more for making more dense edits. This does mean that there's arguably an incentive to make as few edits as possible.

To allay fears that I'll sell out harder than I already have, let me tell you that some of the scenes in Kuroinu currently have as high as a 75% "lines that received some change" ratio. This isn't a diss on the translator, many of those lines are totally fine in and of themselves, this is me going through the scene systemically and livening it up. Spicing it up. And sometimes it's just something like we changed the way we refer to something in the story midstream (using airquotes on everything with a title got tiresome and busy, so now we just use capitalization to denote proper nouns) so we have to change every mention of it afterward.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:59:20 2015 No.13824499

>>13824484
Yeah okay, says something with absolutely no experience in this kind of work. Do you think translators just churn out lines right after reading the Japanese? Translate the words and mirror the sentence structure?

No, they have to sit there and figure out the best way to communicate the same intent and meaning and think of a decent English phrasing. This is creative work in itself and an editor is necessary.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:59:45 2015 No.13824500 >>13824155 Good that they don't, because I hate that too. Feels like there's ALWAYS a character that should be but isn't.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:00:01 2015 No.13824501

Since mangagamer likes to fire up the hype train for their cons so early each year, I wonder if they could turn it into a contest somehow.

A sort of "Guess what title's we'll announce and whoever guesses the most correctly the earlier wins a free copy of GoGoNippon". I can see something like that being shared around twitter and tumblr and bringing a lot of attention in from people that otherwise wouldn't bother to look, sort of like the survey.

Only problem would be who'd want to waste a week going over the entries

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:02:00 2015 No.13824506 >>13824497 >Spicing it up. Another visit to vegetable isle, eh?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:02:26 2015 No.13824510 >>13824501 They could hold a punishment game or make a bet The loser has to go over the entries

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:03:42 2015 No.13824514 >>13824470 Pls don't die on me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:05:26 2015 No.13824521 >>13824463 Anyone who willingly associates themselves with a company like JAST cannot possibly be considered competent, regardless of the quality of her translations.

balistafreak !iK/S6sZnHA Sat Jul 25 04:11:13 2015 No.13824551
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>>13824499

This is really the biggest part of the job. They do their best, but a lot of the time what I call "translator cadence" comes out, where a sentence just doesn't feel right when you say it aloud/do more than just skim it. The translator needs to keep to a quick schedule because only they can move forward - I'm there to catch what I think needs improvement, and I can still work faster than they can translate. If they take time to make every line perfect, they waste my time waiting for them to progress, since I can't.

And frankly, a lot of the time, the original author is himself a shit. There was an entire scene in FF2 that basically had to be rewritten because the adjectives and viewpoint character's internal monologue were completely out of character for him; there was this sudden scatological turn to every single adjective and the character was suddenly trying to give the heroine a literal prolapse with every thrust. (Our current hypothesis was that the listed author couldn't bring themselves to research anal sex properly, so they had someone else write the scene who was much worse at writing in general, AND had a fanfiction-tier knowledge of how anal sex works.)

The translator can't be assed to fix this kind of thing, they'll give the most faithful translation they can, but make a note that anuses do not self lubricate with "intestinal fluids". I'll go and write in a proper anal sex scene in its place, because good lord, those lines would become new doujin-dialogue reaction images otherwise.

>>13824506

Honestly, I think I'm getting better at it. It helps that I made a chart of phonemes to consult without having to say it aloud again and again.

>>13824514

I-I'll try anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:16:05 2015 No.13824568 >>13824551 >but make a note that anuses do not self lubricate with "intestinal fluids". As someone with extensive experience in anal masturbation, I can confirm that it is possible to get damp. Though I don't know where that dampness comes from.

>>	Conjueror Sat Jul 25 04:19:33 2015 No.13824580 >>13824497 I like your approach. I'll keep an eye on you.

>>	Moogy Sat Jul 25 04:22:25 2015 No.13824587 >>13824580 Mou~ Please stop flirting with boys behind my back!

>>	Dovac Sat Jul 25 04:23:51 2015 No.13824593 Sup y'all, just dropping in to let you guys know we picked up Muramasa. Peace.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:24:14 2015 No.13824594 >>13824568 Blood? Your pooper can actually bleed without actually doing serious damage to it. You might notice this if you wipe your ass hard enough and long enough, eventually you'll get a red tinted piece of toilet paper.

>>	herkz Sat Jul 25 04:24:38 2015 No.13824597 >>13824587 Moogy, no! I thought I had you all to myself!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:26:01 2015 No.13824606 >>13824594 No it's not blood. I'd notice if it was blood.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:27:12 2015 No.13824607 >>13824594 Ah, so that's why that happens to me.

balistafreak !iK/S6sZnHA Sat Jul 25 04:28:13 2015 No.13824611
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>>13824568

Damp =/= lubricated. There's natural evaporation/condensation down there, sure, the intestines are very moist.

But believe me when I say it's not lubricant in the same way that water isn't. Or soap. Oh god, soap as lubricant, the horrors.

I was an EMT in high school and still have my registration active since I've taken the classes to maintain it. I got to see the results of trying to do it in the ass without lube/something arguably worse than lube firsthand. Let's just say that when doing our assessment, we honestly had to hesitate and wonder if we could call the damage a "major bleed" aka losing life-threatening amounts of blood.

We did, which meant we had to hold direct pressure, screams of indignity, bloody murder, and pleas to God for a quick death aside. As the high schooler on the crew, I got the privilege, and that's not me being ironic, it was definitely an experience I wouldn't want to miss the first time it came by. Seriously, prolapse is bad enough, but prolapse and then massive tearing trauma nearly to the point of evulsion, that's just nasty.

>>13824580
>>13824587
>>13824593
>>13824597

what the zog

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:28:40 2015 No.13824612

http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/anal-ejaculate

>Actually, it's normal for the inside of the anus to continually produce some natural lubricant. During sexual arousal, the inner anal canal may generate more lube than usual. This substance can be "ejaculated" through the anus as a result of contractions due to stimulation and an empty bowel. Although you liken your anal ejaculate to semen, it's plain ol' mucous that's been secreted by the lining of the bowel.

Seriously guys, pretty much every organ in your body naturally secretes mucus, and that includes the colon and the rectum. You couldn't poop if natural anal lubricant wasn't a thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:30:24 2015 No.13824620 >>13824611 Question: Don't you think SJW has kind of become so overused that it's lost its meaning? Every time I see it, I mentally replace it with "skeleton" because that makes it much more entertaining to read.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:30:40 2015 No.13824621 >>13824612 >You couldn't poop if natural anal lubricant wasn't a thing. I don't poop anyway because I'm a girl IRL.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:31:14 2015 No.13824625 You can always count on /jp/ to be well informed about sticking things up their asses.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:31:40 2015 No.13824628 >>13824620 >Don't you think SJW has kind of become so overused that it's lost its meaning? Probably has more to do with SJWs being everywhere these days. Except 4chan, thankfully.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:32:41 2015 No.13824633 >>13824625 >/jp/ - Anal/Random

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:34:31 2015 No.13824638 >>13824628 Don't be so sure. I'm right here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGcCjcU0z8Q

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:36:08 2015 No.13824646

>>13824611
Here's a real question not related to anal prolapse or gay stuff.

Why did mangagamer decide to localize euphoria? And will it really sell?

It looks way too extreme for the average person and the kind of game you'd see banned everywhere because no one wants to be caught selling that or playing that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:37:12 2015 No.13824651 >>13824638 I figured as much. Only a SJW would be so arrogant enough to bring themselves up in a conversation that has nothing to do with the topic.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:40:21 2015 No.13824659

>>13824646

That's before he signed on, but if I recall, originally kouryuu claimed that they'd get a lot of people coming up to their booth and asking for "the most fucked up shit they had", and he thought it'd be a good fit for that potential market.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:41:26 2015 No.13824665 Hey guys, has anyone here heard of Kuroinu? I'm not saying it's deep, but it's deep.

Good Haro Sat Jul 25 04:41:49 2015 No.13824668

>>13824646
>Why did mangagamer decide to localize euphoria?

It's pretty simple, people won't stop asking for it + MG already had a relationship with ClockUp. The notoriety of the game also gives it really strong word-of-mouth power. You'd be amazed at how many people ask about Euphoria at cons (probably one of the most common questions I got when I was working the AX booth despite manning the fujoshi corner the whole time).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:43:08 2015 No.13824671 >>13824651 Actually I brought it up because balistafreak is pretty heavily anti-"SJW" and this seemed like a good opportunity to ask about that. I hoped you would at least appreciate that great music.

balistafreak !iK/S6sZnHA Sat Jul 25 04:44:39 2015 No.13824675
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>>13824612

As someone who has gotten to study in a cadaver lab and researched this topic after said EMT incident, this guy has no fucking idea what he's talking about. Poop comes out easily precisely because it's moist and so is the body. It's the reason why if you cut tofu with a dry knife, the tofu sticks to the blade, but simply splashing water on the knife beforehand means that the tofu slides right off. You don't have to lube the knife to make it cut cleanly through the material, all it takes is a little water on water. Turn the adhesion into cohesion and everything slides around just fine.

If anal lubricant was a thing, constipation wouldn't nearly as major of a problem as it is.

Is there a little natural moisture there? Yes, and it acts together with a moist stool to let it pass through cleanly. It doesn't lubricate completely inorganic things like dildos nearly enough for, uh, proper usage.

A dick that's gotten a dip in a lubricated vagina or that's frankly wet enough (spitting can in fact be enough) to let it penetrate, albeit laboriously, but it's not going to be sufficient to jam in the latest acquisition from Bad Dragon without some kind of tearing.

>dated to the year 2000

Yeah, no.

>>13824620

I think titles for people are pretty meaningless. Here we use ____-fag a lot, the OP is a faggot, etc.; the Australians use "cunt" as punctuation; here at the con we've got black weebs calling each other "nigger" with smiles on their faces; a name only means as much as your meaning behind it.

>>13824646

Like I said, I can't explain executive decisions. But working the con boooth, we have tons of people coming up to us after seeing our Euphoria banner and going OH MY GOD WHEN IS IT OUT YET WHEN TELL ME NOW. People of both genders, fat/anorexic, white/black/latino/asian/I have no idea, rich/poor, big vocabulary/small vocabulary.

People of all walks are definitely into it. And it's not b& in the US here, which is probably the biggest market, so...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:44:39 2015 No.13824676 >>13824668 You guys are probably gonna make a lot of money off that one, I bet. The real question is how much you will make off Aoiro Rinne.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:45:49 2015 No.13824682 >>13824675 That's quite a good answer. I can respect that, cunt.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:47:44 2015 No.13824687 >>13824668 h-hey you! hi

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:48:55 2015 No.13824689 >>13824676 Will euphoria become the next rapelay and the next thing people will furiously complain about when they talk about VNs with how extreme it is and all that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:49:07 2015 No.13824690 >>13824671 >Actually I brought it up because balistafreak is pretty heavily anti-"SJW" Seems like a bro.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:49:56 2015 No.13824691

>>13824675
>big vocabulary/small vocabulary

Is that really something you can measure working working a sales booth? Do you get people that wander up and are like "Me want porn" and people that go "Hello my good proprietor, I wish to purchase a quantity of your most capital semi-interactive adult photo-literature?"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:51:52 2015 No.13824692 >>13824689 I've consulted my crystal ball and the future looks clear for atleast one year after release

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:52:41 2015 No.13824698 https://twitter.com/balistafreak/with_replies

>>	Good Haro Sat Jul 25 04:55:35 2015 No.13824707 >>13824689 I doubt it. No one actually pays enough attention to VNs to cause a stink without a sensational title. Plus, Euphoria has some unusual qualities like it's surprising contingent of female fans.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:56:21 2015 No.13824712 >>13824689 Like >>13824692 said, it's probably going to take a long time before people catch on and realize it's a "bad thing." Retards are slow like that. Imagine if we do get Aoiro Rinne.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:57:01 2015 No.13824715 >>13824707 >Euphoria has a female fanbase in the west I dont understand, how is this possible

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:58:15 2015 No.13824718 >>13824715 Girls like things too. I wish I had a female girlfriend to read Euphoria with.

Good Haro Sat Jul 25 04:59:18 2015 No.13824723

>>13824715

Well, I didn't say in the west, but it wouldn't surprise me if the same thing happened (there are a number of very vocal English-speaking female Euphoria fans on Twitter already). Hell, I know more women who read Fraternite than men if that tells you anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:59:46 2015 No.13824725 >>13824707 haro am i a bad person if i'm a lolicon i stalk your twitter and a lot of your twitter friends don't seem to like lolicons

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:00:36 2015 No.13824728 >>13824715 Everyone knows women are deviants

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:02:35 2015 No.13824732 >>13824012 What's the point of licensing Tokyo Babel when you can have a fucking amazing chuunige like Evolimit ? Fuck MG this Otacon was such a letdown.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:04:29 2015 No.13824739 >>13824715 They probably want it to happen to them. Masochism, I think? It's a thing.

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balistafreak !iK/S6sZnHA Sat Jul 25 05:05:10 2015 No.13824744
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>>13824665

m8

>>13824671

I was anti-stupidity and censorship a while back, when SJW was getting aimed at very particular groups of people at any given moment. Now the movements have moved on, the fronts have gotten fuzzier and weirder, both sides are turning on themselves like the #enemaourobouros #pooploop, and I can't be assed to claim sides anymore. Hell, by a lot of what some people seem to define an SJW as these days, my best friend's wife would be one, and she's an amazing, awesome person.

>>13824676

If we made a sale of a $30-50 game every time someone asked for Euphoria (not about, FOR Euphoria) we would have outsold any single other game.

>>13824689

Rapelay got a lot of backlash because it was a 100% Japanese game and people couldn't understand it, so they naturally feared it. Believe me when I say most people wouldn't be able to figure out how to "play" Rapelay without knowing the language at all.

You know what happened with GTA's Hot Coffee "scandal"? Rockstar made off like fucking bandits with all the people buying the game to find out for it themselves.

>>13824691

We had a guy who could only speak like a Cro-Magnon and clearly had a sibling... handler, to be polite. "Euphoria? Want Euphoria. When Euphoria?" And then you have people hang out in the booth and talk with you, it's clear they've got a college education when they start talking about things like their thesis paper and graduation and major when the conversation turns that way.

>>13824698

SHUT

IT

DOWN

Nah, I haven't said anything I'd be unwilling to own up to. Maybe it was a bit embarrassing in hindsight, but it was a weirder time back then.

>>13824715

Lots of the people asking us about Euphoria were girls. Younger, barely 18 girls (they'd buy another game, we'd card them, oh look, 18 and a week) and grey-haired, post-menopausal women.

Something something, gender equality through scat fetishes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:06:56 2015 No.13824752 >>13824732 So Propeller could get quick money to actually hire competent people and make good games again. I hope...

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:07:28 2015 No.13824754

>>13824718
I understand that they like things, most of them like to make money by making stupid things like Girl does (thing).
The problem is the thing we're talking about.

Do girls really want to see other girls be treated in one of the most fucked up ways possible? Or get turned on and wish they were treated that way?

>>13824723
>>13824728
>>13824744
I guess weird things like these always happen but its still pretty surprising. I guess shit fetishes are really universal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:09:51 2015 No.13824759 >>13824744 >Younger, barely 18 girls (they'd buy another game, we'd card them, oh look, 18 and a week) Fuck dude, how do I get a job working at one of those booths so I can pick up chicks?

>>	Good Haro Sat Jul 25 05:10:47 2015 No.13824764 >>13824759 You don't want to pick up people at anime cons.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:10:51 2015 No.13824766

>>13824754
>Do girls really want to see other girls be treated in one of the most fucked up ways possible? Or get turned on and wish they were treated that way?
Wasn't there some study awhile back that said people were willing to engage in porn three "stages" above what they'd ever do irl?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:11:54 2015 No.13824772 >>13824764 I'd pick them up and throw them in a lake so that they could bathe for the first time in a while. Don't fuck with me, Nana Mizuki.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:11:57 2015 No.13824774 File: 218 KB, 460x386, Aiko_c145p3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13824764 I do.

balistafreak !iK/S6sZnHA Sat Jul 25 05:13:17 2015 No.13824777 [SPOILER]

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>>13824744

fug it's three hours to alarm clocks ringing and five to booths opening, I'm out

Good night/morning for now. I'll slink back into anonymity until further notice. If this thread is still alive by tomorrow afternoon and people are dying with questions I might answer more, but probably not.

I will take the shittiest of baits in other /jp/ and /vn/ threads if only to prove I'm there and dumbfounded by it though

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:13:51 2015 No.13824781 File: 135 KB, 1120x1080, 1419487494960.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13824715 >Euphoria has a female fanbase in the west Faith in women restored.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:14:14 2015 No.13824784 >>13824725 that silence is disheartening :(

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:14:24 2015 No.13824785 >>13824732 Otacon would love this Otakon. With all the chuuni stuff, it's just like one of his Japanese animes. Also, just what is the problem you have with Tokyo Babel? Have you actually played it?

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:15:25 2015 No.13824789

Good Haro, just wondering. Is there any specific reason why we see so few games from Navel? We already know that Oretsuba is a license really hard to get because of 5pb but at first glance, it doesn't seem like that's the case for Tsuriotsu. Given that a PSVita version of it is to be released this year and since the game got the 1st place on Getchu rankings of 2014, I have a hard time figuring it out why MG doesn't license it to release it on Steam. Could you perhaps shed some light on this topic?

Good Haro Sat Jul 25 05:15:53 2015 No.13824793

>>13824754
>Do girls really want to see other girls be treated in one of the most fucked up ways possible? Or get turned on and wish they were treated that way?

I think it's different for everyone but a lot of the women I know who read stuff like that (I mean, I read Fraternite myself the week it came out even) enjoy it more for the psychological fucked-up-ed-ness of it than anything. It's not really fap-fodder so much as "oh that's fascinatingly deranged"--not that there aren't women who get off on that stuff (which is cool too), but there's more than one way to engage with weird porn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:16:26 2015 No.13824797 >>13824784 If she's anything like me, which she is since she enjoyed Captain Earth, she probably just tends to ignore lowercase typers on principle. They almost never have anything of value to say.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:16:34 2015 No.13824799 >>13824744 >grey-haired, post-menopausal women. You will never read Euphoria with your qt christmas cake gf.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:17:37 2015 No.13824803 >>13824785 Snake ? Snake ?! Snaaaaake!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:17:37 2015 No.13824804 >>13824799 Christmas Cake is 25+, not grannies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:18:47 2015 No.13824810 >>13824804 It's still a cake if she's a virgin you know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:18:48 2015 No.13824811 >>13824799 >christmas cake >post-menopausal women I think that'd be more like a yule log that's been sitting in the freezer since the 70s

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:22:37 2015 No.13824828 I think we should be more excited that such old women are reading VNs. And VNs such as Euphoria, of all things. That's kind of amazing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 08:33:08 2015 No.13825278 So how many hours until Sekai's panel?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 08:44:57 2015 No.13825301 >>13825278 About 6

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 09:08:40 2015 No.13825321

Man, I just watched Tokyo Babel OP on MG youtube channel and I'm all hyped for it. The setting seems cool and the VN being about 50 hours long just makes me want to read it more.

Although The Shadows of Pygmalion doesn't seem as cool as Tokyo Babel I'll give it a try. I'm a sucker for some chuuninge so I'm sure I'll have fun reading it.

I'm not disappointed by the other MG announcements. After reading MG description of Yurirei, I'm looking forward to read it even more. I already expected Supipara but I'm looking forward for it too. What I wasn't epecting so soon was PE fandisc. I'll finally have Ruriko and Konomi all for myself. Since you guys spoke of anal a lot on this thread, I'll let you know that there's anal in the fandisc with two girls. I don't want to spoil you more than this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 09:19:54 2015 No.13825338 https://twitter.com/tulipgoddess/status/624832096473849856 >In conclusion I'm really excited to be able to work on Poltergays!! Fuck. You got me

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 09:23:10 2015 No.13825347 I'm happy that someone on MG staff is anti-SJW. Would definitely support.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 09:36:03 2015 No.13825375 >>13825338 It would probably be a terrible decision from a business perspective but Poltergays would be a great title.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 09:37:29 2015 No.13825379 >>13823921 Thanks for the summary dovac.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 09:50:34 2015 No.13825400 >>13823956 Yuri has a dedicated fanbase who will buy just about anything yuri. And some even go so far as to buy multiple copies of yuri media to support more yuri being made/localized.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 09:54:00 2015 No.13825405 >>13823957 They created one for Cho Dengeki Stryker. The H content just needs to be easily removable without damaging the main story. Then again people on Steam love to cry censorship, so all-ages only could gain steam.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 09:59:51 2015 No.13825412 >>13823984 It was an episodic game that they charged full price for and it doesn't have any ero when minori's fanbase is made up of eroge fans. It being a financial failure in Japan doesn't have anything to do with the game's story.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 10:00:34 2015 No.13825417 >>13824295 >>13824300 Hey now, they aren't as expensive as SP's projects. It's just Kamiya Hiroshi, Sawashiro Miyuki, Sakurai Takahiro and half the cast of Index! Man, SP is shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 10:23:09 2015 No.13825468 >>13825417 More like the entire cast of Bakemonogatari. And Himawari has Tamura Yukari and Kawasumi Ayako.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 10:27:19 2015 No.13825477

>>13825405
I think that's true. The financial benefit from creating a non-adult version outweighs the censorship whining. People might have learned the wrong lesson from MoeNovel, and now new games from Purple Soft and Front Wing are designed to have 18+ content that can be removed seamlessly. (This isn't a trend I particularly like, I have yet to see a good game that came from trying to write with the West in mind.)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 10:43:32 2015 No.13825517 File: 13 KB, 516x279, Poll.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fuwa votes for their favorite MG Otakon announcement. Tokyo Babel is winning by a large margin and most don't seem to care about Supipara.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 11:02:11 2015 No.13825553 http://www.strawpoll.me/5021894/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 11:05:11 2015 No.13825561 >>13825517 >20 votes barely anything to go by

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 11:07:43 2015 No.13825569 >>13825517 I'm loking forward to Supipara but man, I'm looking forward to Tokyo Babel even more.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 11:18:28 2015 No.13825585

>>13825553
>>13825517
I don't really care much about any of them. I voted Tokyo Babel because that's the only one that seems at least worth trying.

>>13824295
>>13824300
>>13825417
>>13825468
Am I the only one who's sort of expecting another 'no voices until X sales!' fiasco?

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 11:23:06 2015 No.13825596

>>13825585
>Am I the only one who's sort of expecting another 'no voices until X sales!' fiasco?

I think they're hoping that Steam sales alone will cover the cost. Koihime Musou got its voices back after 2,000 sales, which should be fairly easy to get on Steam.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 11:49:20 2015 No.13825649 >>13825585 >>13825596 They also highlighted it during the panel itself that it had a great cast of voice actors, so it would be pretty silly to do another "no voices until X sales" run.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 11:58:26 2015 No.13825679 >>13825321 >The setting seems cool and the VN being about 50 hours long just makes me want to read it more. >>13824860 After reading this I'm pretty much sold

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:10:40 2015 No.13825713 >>13825679 >50 hours long You're off by around 50%

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:16:47 2015 No.13825726 >>13825713 >You're off by around 50% https://vndb.org/v9205.13 Perhaps you should talk with the translator. He himself edited the VNDB entry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:18:42 2015 No.13825731 >>13825726 >the translator would give a totally unbiased opinion a game's qualities and his word should be taken instead of the overwhelming aggregate opinion everywhere else Okay

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:21:01 2015 No.13825735 https://twitter.com/DIV8_ASDF/status/624859322145570817 Psycho-Pass VN in English? Now that's a surprise.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:23:24 2015 No.13825736 >>13825731 According to TLWiki, Tokyo Babel script size is 1.82MB and 29189 lines. Is this correct?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:23:32 2015 No.13825737 >>13825731 Of course. Maria said that Sonicomi is actually a fantastic game, and Free Friends is great too. She's the translator. She would know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:26:13 2015 No.13825743 >>13825736 >1.82MB and 29189 lines If that's true, that is nowhere even close to 50 hours. That's only marginally longer than G-Senjou, and that's 10-30 hours on VNDB.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:29:33 2015 No.13825752 >>13825743 And .5mb / 5000 lines shorter than Kira Kira, which is also 10-30 hours. So it's just someone with a vested interest editing a wiki to try to market their shit project.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:34:20 2015 No.13825761

>>13825752
Just because it's not as long as the translator says for whatever reason doesn't make it a shit game. Although I agree that nobody should have to lie about its length, 1.8mb isn't 50 hours of reading, that's for sure. I don't see why everybody wants their plotge to be War and Peace times 3 anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:35:58 2015 No.13825764 >>13825761 It's shit because like every recent Propeller game, it's badly written.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:38:21 2015 No.13825771 >>13825764 At least it's only got one writer

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:38:56 2015 No.13825774 >>13825737 She's right though. She also said kindred spirits was the hardest game she translated so far. Liar soft stuff is pretty hard to translate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:42:52 2015 No.13825782 So why don't you just learn Japanese instead of letting these companies treat you like shit?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:44:35 2015 No.13825788 >>13825782 I'm sure a lot of people here are trying, if your Japanese is shit there's a lot of stuff you shouldn't be attempting to read. I still rely on translations for stuff that would be wasted on me in its original language.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:44:50 2015 No.13825790

>>13825771
Japan needs to get their shit together with writers. If you put multiple writers on a project, they should be collaborating and working together, not divvy up pieces of the script and all go fucking off to do their own thing and putting that shit together only at the end. Same with editing. So many games badly need just a basic editor to point out problems and tell the writers when something is stupid or doesn't work, but instead, respect is so fucking ingrained institutionalized that things like that are showing great dishonor.

/offtopic rant

Sorry, but it always astounds me how backward the Japanese writing industry is.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:53:40 2015 No.13825813

>>13825752
>>13825743

You guys are acting like measuring VN reading time in hours is even remotely standardized. Everyone reads at a different pace and there are more things that can influence play time than just script length (for example, routing structure).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:55:43 2015 No.13825818 >>13825813 Yeah, we have to accommodate for the stupidest and slowest people in the class. That's something you're no doubt used to, being a brain damaged child.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 13:00:30 2015 No.13825828 >>13825813 What the translator is doing is attempting to make the game look like its epic in length when its not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 13:01:38 2015 No.13825834 >>13825813 I highly doubt 1.8mb is 50 hours worth of reading for most people now matter how generously you want to slice it. Not that that's a bad thing, I'm a fan of good pacing, and fuckhuge games generally don't have that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 13:01:47 2015 No.13825836 >>13825828 Welcome to MG trying to stealth market their shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 13:03:07 2015 No.13825840 >>13825735 >XBONE Why

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 13:12:05 2015 No.13825849 >>13825834 Hmm, it took me about 60 hours to read Tokyo Babel (around the same time as Ayakashibito). I don't know what kind of photoreading skills you guys have.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 13:15:40 2015 No.13825852 >>13825849 Then this is where you learn that you read at a 2nd grade level.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 13:17:38 2015 No.13825856 >>13825849 I read Ayakashibito in about 30-40 hours with auto-mode on the fastest speed, sometimes clicking to go through even faster.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 13:19:49 2015 No.13825860 >>13825856 >Ayakashibito >50974 lines >2.82 mb >30-40 hours >Tokyo Babel >29189 lines >1.82 mb >50+ hours Makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 13:21:42 2015 No.13825864 >>13825852 Well, Muv-Luv Alternative took me 60 hours, too, and it seems to be listed as a 50+ hours game on vndb.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 13:24:07 2015 No.13825871 >>13825860 >1.82MB >50+ hours I'll finish that shit in 20 hours. The length seems to favor ESLs and 12 year olds.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 13:24:10 2015 No.13825872 >>13825864 So you read one game in 60 hours, and you also read a game that's about 66% longer in 60 hours. And you don't see how you're full of shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 13:28:31 2015 No.13825881 why are we arguing over how long a shitty chuunige takes to read?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 13:34:17 2015 No.13825895 >>13825871 Well, egs seems to list Tokyo Babel, Ayakashibito, Eustia, Tsukihime, Ever17, and Demonbane as same length 30+ hours games. I kinda trust JPs to know the length of the games they actually read better than speculating EOPs.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 13:44:31 2015 No.13825918

>>13825872
Where are you getting your numbers? TLwiki is giving me 1.82mb vs 2.73mb. Maybe Tokyo Babel took me longer because it had more complicated words, but it's definitely in the 30-50 hours range at least.

Himawari is 1.77mb and it's listed 30-50 hours on vndb, too.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 13:50:24 2015 No.13825943

>>13825918
Well how does your Japanese reading speed stack up against your English reading speed? Because I can fly through something written in English with no breaks no matter what the vocab level but with Japanese I'd have a hell if a time reading chuuni shit.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 14:04:37 2015 No.13825994

>>13825943
I don't read chuuni in English so I wouldn't know, but I imagine it would go faster. But that's why I said 30-50 hours range despite it taking me 60 (I think it should be around 40 hours long in English, maybe?).

Would be nice if there was someone else who has actually read the thing to compare the lengths with.

The game has three fairly long routes so I can't imagine anyone finishing it under 30 hours though (maybe it's the chuuni effects that slowed me down? all fights are full of those).

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 14:09:23 2015 No.13826002

>>13825994
Yeah, I can't see myself ever having to look up a goddamn word or thinking of anything as complex in English so complexity is pretty much irrelevant in translations. All I know is that even something like FSN didn't take me a hell of a lot longer than 60 hours. Maybe 65.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 14:11:35 2015 No.13826009 completion times can be a lot longer especially if you take the time to listen to the voiceover.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 14:13:22 2015 No.13826017 >>13826009 Yeah, when I read shut in Japanese I always listen to the full voice because it's easier on the brain. With English translations, not so much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 14:43:03 2015 No.13826092 At least I'm gonna get to play Nitro+ Blasters on my good old PS3.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 15:22:27 2015 No.13826241 The stream is running Sekai Project's panel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 15:34:20 2015 No.13826312 >>13826241 They going to announce anything?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 15:37:16 2015 No.13826331 >>13826312 They have announced Tenshin Ranman Happy-Go-Lucky thus far.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 15:38:23 2015 No.13826339 >>13826312 Check out their Twitter, they've announced a bunch of stuff already. This thread's just quiet for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 15:39:20 2015 No.13826346 >>13826331 So Yuzusoft partnership then

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 15:43:48 2015 No.13826374 >>13826331 Hope we get a porn version, that's the best part of Yuzusoft.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 15:46:40 2015 No.13826383 >>13826374 >Sekai Project >Porn I'm sorry anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 15:49:52 2015 No.13826399 >>13826383 That's exactly why I have to hope instead of halfway believe. I seriously think companies that won't do porn should just keep their hands off of moege.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 15:58:44 2015 No.13826435 http://www.strawpoll.me/5026602

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 15:58:54 2015 No.13826436 >>13826374 During their QA session they pretty strongly hinted that there will be a denpasoft 18+ release for every game that could get one. Also apparently Grisaia unrated is coming out next week? Not sure if I heard that right.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:01:41 2015 No.13826457

Looks like the main announcements were
- Chiruchiru release in less than a week
- Picked up Tenshin Ranman (was a fan project)
- Obscure/unremarkable doujin games Nenokami, Witch Boy Magical Piece, Nekopara vol 0
- fault milestone two, and some OELVN that's getting a kickstarter
- Other stuff: putting out the Gate manga adaptation, Yoshimune video message

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:03:21 2015 No.13826465 >>13826457 >Gate manga adaptation Isnt that CR's territory? And I thought GATE was a LN original

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:03:47 2015 No.13826467 >>13826457 >- Chiruchiru release in less than a week This wasn't translated by koestl and he seems a bit salty over it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:06:18 2015 No.13826478 >>13826467 lol, herkz just announced that they'll be releasing their own unauthorized ChiruChiru translation after the trilogy is completed. They seem really salty.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:06:46 2015 No.13826483 >>13826436 I still have no faith in them to give me porn, hope that changes. That and the whole shit translations thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:07:08 2015 No.13826487 >>13826478 SUPPORT OFFICIAL TRANSLATIONS

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:08:57 2015 No.13826493 >>13826467 It was translated by random fuwatard who doesn't even know japanese. What the hell sp/frontwing management is thinking, i wonder

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:10:11 2015 No.13826498 >>13826457 >Picked up machine translated Tenshin Ranman fan project Oh god, SP. What the fuck are you doing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:12:03 2015 No.13826504 >>13826493 It was a guy who posted about it on fuwa once or twice and never posted anywhere else there, and there is literally nothing to go on to determine how good his japanese skills are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:13:04 2015 No.13826509 >>13826504 Also herkz said this was done almost entirely by Frontwing themselves so it may not even be translated by that guy. Or maybe they hired that guy behind SP's back? That would be weird. Frontwing seems to be really difficult to work with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:13:22 2015 No.13826513 File: 126 KB, 960x536, 1356841563361.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13826498 Perfect for Sekai Project.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:13:57 2015 No.13826515 >>13826509 We all know how translations turn out when the Japanese companies are in charge

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:14:05 2015 No.13826517 >>13826498 They said absolutely nothing about whether or not they're using the fan translation. It seems doubtful.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:14:10 2015 No.13826520

>>13825713
>>13825726
What you guys have to realize is that it takes some people a lot longer to read VNs than others (and some are a lot faster). Like, if VNDB says a VN is 30 hours, I know I'm in for about 50. That's why it's kinda pointless to think much about specific playtimes, it varies wildly from person to person. The only thing you need to know is if it's "kinda long" or "kinda short."

>>13825743
Yeah, G-Senjou actually did take me about 50 hours, so there you go.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:15:25 2015 No.13826524 >>13826517 That they would call it a translation says all you need to know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:16:27 2015 No.13826528 >>13826520 And everything has to be about you. So even though you take 50 hours to read something that it takes 95% of the population 20 hours to read, it should be marked as a 50+ hour game. Because you're retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:16:51 2015 No.13826531 >>13826513 Is jew project trying to kill VNs?

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:17:18 2015 No.13826532

>>13826520
You can like at the size of the script and compare it to games of a similar length that you've played and get an estimate of how long it'll take you to read. If you read at a decent speed for an English native 1.82mb won't take 50 hours. End of story. Of course there are exceptions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:17:45 2015 No.13826533 >>13826531 They're certainly trying to kill translators.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:17:47 2015 No.13826534 >>13826524 What? That who would call what a translation? Sekai Project didn't even mention the Tenshin Ranman fan project. The people involved with it are practically dead in the scene and haven't done shit in years. They aren't using it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:20:01 2015 No.13826541 >>13826534 Yeah, just like they aren't using the Clannad fan TL. I'll believe it when I see it, they haven't been averse to putting out dogshit in the past.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:21:03 2015 No.13826544

>>13826517
Sorry, looks like I shouldn't have jumped to that conclusion. I just assumed because I doubted they'd translate it from scratch without even a Kickstarter, and it seems like a pretty big coincidence considering there was a fan project for it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:21:53 2015 No.13826550 >>13826541 Maybe the translation will still be shit, who knows. But I would be shocked if the craneanime idiots were involved.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:23:50 2015 No.13826562

>>13826544
Actually I take this back, it is the same fan project. But a different translator, no info on how good it is. Looking at the CraneAnime fan translation page, it says "July 5, 2015 - The project revived with two new translators. Progress table update later. "

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:26:06 2015 No.13826572

>>13826528
I didn't even remotely imply any of that, so it's pretty ironic that you called me retarded. I'm saying that it's not so simple as "95% of the population", it varies much more than that. So it's pointless to mark the games with average playtimes to begin with.

>>13826532
It's true that script size/word count is a better indicator, but again, that varies depending on what the writing is like, how long the voice clips take to play, et cetera. I think people seriously underestimate voice clips. Really, if anything the lesson here is that VNDB should just put word count/difficulty instead of playtime.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:28:01 2015 No.13826578 Really, the biggest news here is that Sekai Project may actually pick up Dracu-riot. I'd love that, kick Insem right in the ballsack.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:28:41 2015 No.13826581 >>13826572 I would still argue that the writing would have to be some high-grade lit-tier prose to slow down any native English speaker. And we know how eroge translators write.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:29:02 2015 No.13826584 >>13826572 Since you don't know what irony is either, you're just convincing me that you're nigh illiterate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:30:58 2015 No.13826590 >>13826578 So instead J-C-E translation we will get google-kun's translation.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:33:44 2015 No.13826604

>>13826532
>If you read at a decent speed for an English native 1.82mb won't take 50 hours.
There is no 'decent speed for an English native'. Once you're fluent enough that you can read stuff without having to look things up and whatnot, you're at your maximum reading speed. And for some people, regardless of intelligence, that speed may be slow or fast.

My reading speed in English is as fast as my reading speed in my native language (then again, I have been using more English than Dutch in the past 15 years), but I'm just a slow reader because I'm bad at communication in general; it takes me a relatively long time to parse sentences (written, but even more so spoken) and when reading I'm autistic enough to re-read lines often to make sure I'm not missing anything (stuff like 'did he just say "what now?" or "what do we do now?"' - I always make sure I interpret everything 100% correctly).

Fate/stay night took me 120 hours (as measured by the in-game timer).

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:35:15 2015 No.13826611

>>13826604
>Once you're fluent enough that you can read stuff without having to look things up and whatnot, you're at your maximum reading speed. And for some people, regardless of intelligence, that speed may be slow or fast.
You are objectively wrong and only making a stronger case that you have no idea at all what you're talking about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:36:42 2015 No.13826616 >>13826611 That was my first post in this discussion. Tell me why I am 'objectively wrong'.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:37:18 2015 No.13826620 >>13826604 That would mean you don't read at a decent speed. Which is fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:38:25 2015 No.13826626 >>13826590 I would take literally anything over Insem getting to laugh about the translation never getting released. Fuck Insem. Sexually.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:39:26 2015 No.13826629

>>13826616
Really? You have never heard of people speed reading? You can't take the .5 seconds to use Google and see that your claim that reading speed is permanently set in stone is a fat load of shit and there are all kinds of ways to learn to read faster?

Oh right. Because you're an ignorant dipshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:40:30 2015 No.13826631 >>13826629 This. There are many ways to improve your reading speed. People do it all the time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:41:27 2015 No.13826634 >>13826581 There are things that will slow down native English speakers that aren't "high-grade lit-tier". For example, look at the writing in Treasure Island. Specifically the way some of the characters speak. Yikes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:45:17 2015 No.13826648 >>13826634 I've yet to come across anything of the sort in eroge and somehow doubt this Propeller title is going to be an exception.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:50:20 2015 No.13826674 >>13826604 >Fate/stay night took me 120 hours What the fuck? And here I thought my 57 hours were a lot. And that includes all routes and bad endings, too. I guess that explains why it took you 50 hours to read G-string.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:51:42 2015 No.13826686 >>13826648 Well, it took me a long time to read Ixrec's Forest, but that might have been more of a translator issue than anything. GHS's Cross Channel is pretty damn incomprehensible, too.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:02:08 2015 No.13826749

>>13826629
Well, yes, I know about speed reading. But like skimming, it's a method of sacrificing comprehension for speed. I was talking about properly reading things. You can't enjoy speed reading written fiction like you would enjoy reading it normally.

But perhaps that is where the difference lies. When I read fiction, I make sure to completely immerse myself and try to comprehend it fully. I read all my VNs in fullscreen, always use headphones, make sure not to interrupt the experience by alt-tabbing or anything (if I have my second monitor connected I turn it off), listen to all the voices and so on. The fast readers I've talked to seem to usually read their VNs windowed, often doing other things while reading.

>>13826674
I'm not the guy that said he took 60 hours for G-Senjou. I have no idea how long G-Senjou took for me as there was no in-game timer and I wasn't measuring it in any other way.

From talking to people, it seems that fast readers read f/sn in 40 hours, average readers in just over 60, and slow readers in over 90 hours. I'm pretty much among the very slowest readers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:03:23 2015 No.13826753 >>13826674 The in-game timer keeps going up even when you're idling, so he probably didn't actually take the full 120 hours on it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:03:59 2015 No.13826760 >>13826749 No. The difference is that you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:20:32 2015 No.13826817 https://twitter.com/sekaiproject/status/625047979133640704 I wish he meant it. That would be the first good thing to come out of SP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:39:36 2015 No.13826879 >>13826749 >often doing other things while reading. That's just plain wrong, no matter what speed you can read at.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:49:06 2015 No.13826899 the craneanime folk are disavowing any involvement in SP's tenshin ranman release.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:50:49 2015 No.13826903

>>13826879
Not that guy, but I see people do this for games in general, not just VNs. Really pisses me off when someone's playing an Ys game and they don't get to appreciate the music. People need to stop trying to multitask so much and maybe they'll enjoy things more. Honestly, in the end, multitasking is more inefficient because of stuff like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FleAlncLO8I

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:52:29 2015 No.13826910

Huh, so if frontwing supposedly pushed dovac to use that fuwanovel translation, it also kinda lines up with their himawari version since it's fantranslation was mostly done aswell. I wonder if frontwing is just concerned about short term profit and is willing to sign off to whoever's willing to give it.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:55:18 2015 No.13826917

>>13826910
At least Himawari's done by a really good translator. I actually wish more games would not be announced until they're almost out sometimes, I hate seeing an announcement and then realizing it's going to be another year before I play the game. Really drains my enthusiasm.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:55:56 2015 No.13826920

>>13826910
In the case of Himawari, the translator was working alongside MangaGamer to get that licensed instead of interacting directly with Frontwing. In ChiruChiru's case, Frontwing heard SP turned down that translator, said "hey wait a minute", and decided to go with him behind their back anyways just so they can release it faster.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:56:52 2015 No.13826922 >>13826920 I actually love this because it means SP got trolled hard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:58:42 2015 No.13826927 So uh. "fault milestone two side above". Does that mean it's a part one of the second title in a series that's already episodic? What the Jew.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:59:04 2015 No.13826929 >>13826922 And now we get to see their staff act all mortified that SP's somehow been conned into releasing a subpar translation. Oh, the humanity!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:00:13 2015 No.13826933 >>13826927 Sasuga jew project SP trying to kill VNs and MG trying to save VNs while JAST just stares at them while sitting on a pile of VNs that will never be released

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:00:24 2015 No.13826935

>>13826920

I don't think that's what happened.

I think front wing heard that the fuwa translation was declined, probably on koetsl's advice to dovac, and told dovac to use it anyway. It would explain that mysterious "our translators are bullying us" tweet, because that would have been been koestl and herkz privately calling dovac an idiot for using it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:01:33 2015 No.13826937 >>13826929 Yeah, I mean. Honestly, it's consistent with the rest of their work.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:02:22 2015 No.13826941 >>13826935 You're right, that tweet now makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:02:50 2015 No.13826943 >>13826899 Where? Unless the main translator is who's disavowing it, they're probably just out of the loop. Same thing happened with Antheon and the Steins;Gate fan translation.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:02:59 2015 No.13826946

>>13826933
Don't forget that Fault Milestone is the series written by a guy who isn't even Japanese but just wrote it in Japanese for the hell of it and then Kickstarted a translation. Like goddamn, maybe the game itself is good, but you guys are really not inclining me to pay a single cent for it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:05:10 2015 No.13826954 >>13826946 He then proceeded to make an ass of himself on the vndb forums.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:05:49 2015 No.13826959 File: 27 KB, 331x441, classic HERKZ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Herkz, paragon of maturity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:07:27 2015 No.13826966 >>13826954 In the end, they really should have just done Fault!! instead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:10:21 2015 No.13826984 https://twitter.com/sekaiproject/status/625029472291524608 >Jew project

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:11:58 2015 No.13826989 >>13826984 Since someone mentioned that tweet I'll take this opportunity to say that I HATE this "Ayyy" meme. It's caught on so much that people just toss it around randomly with no real meaning. Hey I just ate a sandwich! Ayyyyy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:14:44 2015 No.13827000 >>13826989 Because epic memes and people love adding "Ayyy lmao" to anything and everything. I dont mind when random people do it but they shouldnt be going hard on the memes on the official company twitter but its them we're talking about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:20:29 2015 No.13827021 >Our last Otakon news is: Root Double- Before Crime * After Days- Xtend Edition is coming to Steam and a Kickstarter is being planned.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:23:06 2015 No.13827035 >>13827021 >immediate negative responses to the Kickstarter They're starting to learn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:26:33 2015 No.13827049 I wonder if this Nenokami game is like Chrono Clock in that the h-scenes are separate. I notice there's only an "append disc." God, I still really hope someone translates that, though.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:27:13 2015 No.13827055

>>13826935
If memory serves, the guy that translated about 75% of Chiruchiru and approched SP to release it was told by dovac to fuck off (I believe someone posted on the VNTLS thread months ago a print with his post on fuwanovel). He said that dovac didn't mince his words at all. So, how butt-blasted is dovac with his? He already said on reddit that he won't answer any questions. Also, people seem to be getting wary of the translation given multiple comments being made. This is excellent reputation to SP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:35:23 2015 No.13827078 >>13826478 Is this what dovac meant when he said the translators were bullying him?

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:41:26 2015 No.13827101

>>13827021
Imagine a scenario where SP says they have a license to a certain game and will use kickstarter for it. In the end, the kickstarter fails. What would they do with the license?
And speaking of Root Double, it's completely beyond me how the fuck Lemnisca thought that partnering with SP was a good idea. Anyway, it's nice to see Root Double getting a official release. I'm looking forward to. At least I know competent people are working on it.

My current biggest worry regarding SP is that they have a deal with Akabei Soft which is related to Akatsuki Works. I can only imagine they delievering a massively butchered translation if they work on something by Akatsuki Works.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:42:30 2015 No.13827106 Frontwing really must be paying attention to the west if they found about this random translation of Chirurchiru if SP didn't bring it to them. Guess I should have realized that after they took down the countless Grisaia Let's Plays.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:43:09 2015 No.13827112 >>13827106 I hear the fuwa TL contacted them behind SP's back

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:45:05 2015 No.13827119 >>13827078 Apparently so. Get rekt, Dofuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:46:41 2015 No.13827124 >>13827055 > (I believe someone posted on the VNTLS thread months ago a print with his post on fuwanovel Here it is: http://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/6789-idol-mahou-shoujo-chiru-chiru%E2%98%86michiru-part-1/page-2#entry250302

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:50:12 2015 No.13827133 >>13827119 Does this mean that the backers will get stuck with the shit translation for the hardcopy? This could really piss off people who backed for that reward.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:53:09 2015 No.13827142 >>13827133 Good. After they've released this princess knight game, Sekai Project can fall apart as far as I'm concerned.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:53:48 2015 No.13827144 >>13826922 That's the line that SP and their staff is feeding people, despite having never turned down a shitty translator ever before. It makes literally no sense.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:54:48 2015 No.13827146 >>13827133 Well the original translation team did say they plan to still do a chiruchiru translation after they finish the main series. I imagine they can maybe offer some sort of official update but they will have to wait.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:56:36 2015 No.13827150 >>13827144 The fan translation could be original Clannad tier. It has to be seriously bad for them not to want the credit for having it translated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:57:59 2015 No.13827155 >>13827124 This guy honestly seems pretty well-spoken, especially compared to Dovac. I can't imagine his translation actually being bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:59:03 2015 No.13827161 >>13827146 Only Herkz has said they will, and he has no authority at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 18:59:53 2015 No.13827164 >>13827146 Didn't they say they were going to offer the update unofficially? Sekai likely can't undermine Frontwing, so the official version is screwed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:00:06 2015 No.13827165 >>13827155 It's literally machine translated and then edited.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:00:24 2015 No.13827166 That fucking user ChaosRaven from MG forums that called Himawari a no-name lolige strikes again: http://forums.mangagamer.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=671&start=15#p15594 >Yuri Ghosts on the Rooftop looks horrible so I'll definitely pass on it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:01:39 2015 No.13827170 >>13827166 So whine there instead of bringing it here and hoping for a hugbox, you little shit. Not your personal army or circle jerk.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:01:47 2015 No.13827171 >>13827165 We'll see about that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:01:57 2015 No.13827175 >>13827166 It does look kind of bad though, if I wanted yuri then i'd just pick up one of the million sono hana titles

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:02:55 2015 No.13827177

>>13827166
God damn, stop giving him attention. Or at least insult him there, like the other guy said. He pisses me off too but if we don't talk about him his words won't mean anything. He clearly does not seem very representative of the usual people to buy from MG anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:04:02 2015 No.13827184 >>13827175 And you say this based on nothing since you haven't read any of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:06:21 2015 No.13827193 >>13827184 You can judge the artstyle based on screenshots, but people who act like art quality correlates with story quality are idiots.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:08:07 2015 No.13827201 >>13827193 The art style is pretty damn cute anyway, I've never seen a VN with art quite like it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:10:56 2015 No.13827213 >>13827164 I see no reason for Frontwing to not allow them to update the translation if it's bad. There is no downside for them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:11:04 2015 No.13827215 >>13827184 You posted here looking for people to reply to you and im just saying what I think about it. Yuri as a whole tends to be pretty boring and if the main draw is lesbian ghosts trying to make a yuritopia then I don't want any of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:13:19 2015 No.13827223 >>13827215 The problem is you said it looks bad. Just say it doesn't look like your kind of thing. That's all, no need to speak in absolutes like you're the king of deciding visual novel quality. People hate that, it's obnoxious and egotistical.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:16:21 2015 No.13827236 >>13827213 It indicates that Frontwing is allowing shit translations to be distributed as official product. It's a black mark on their reputation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:17:29 2015 No.13827242 >>13827223 Its a opinion anon, people like different things. You might like stuff I don't and I might like stuff you don't. Im free to say something looks pretty bad in the same way you are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:18:24 2015 No.13827247 >>13827223 Eat a dick, you overly sensitive little piece of shit. If you need every single sentence anybody says to start with "My opinion is" then you need to step out of your little bubble and grow a dick.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:22:05 2015 No.13827260 >>13827242 You're free to say it, but it doesn't make it not a dumb thing to say. Especially when it isn't based on anything substantial. >>13827247 Dude, why would I have ANY interest in dicks if I'm a yuri fan? Think about it, durr.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:23:10 2015 No.13827265 File: 12 KB, 1558x193, potential TLC.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] There may be some hope for koestl TLCing Chiruchiru Michiru or something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:23:15 2015 No.13827266 >>13827236 A company that decided to work with Sekai Project already has a huge black mark on their reputation, so it doesn't really matter at this point.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:27:56 2015 No.13827280

>>13827260
And here we have a retarded yurifag fresh from shitty forums that expected people to circlejerk with him but only got told to eat a dick.

This is another of the things wrong with yuri, most of the yurifags on this site are some of the worst people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:32:13 2015 No.13827292 What if I just want to play a cute Liar-soft game and don't give a shit if it's yuri or not? I don't see why everybody is able to just hear a single word about the content of a game and immediately decide it's no good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:33:33 2015 No.13827297 >>13827292 If someone having a different opinion than you triggers you then this really isn't the site for you

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:35:16 2015 No.13827304 >>13827265 It's supposed to be released in less than a week. Even if he wanted or intended to, he's not going to TLC an entire game in that time.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:35:20 2015 No.13827305

>>13827297
I'm not that guy you mongoloid, I think it's humorous that the word "yuri" triggers YOU, actually. Like it makes that big of a difference. It's like hearing a game has no sexual content (say Steins;Gate) and immediately throwing it in the trash.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:35:28 2015 No.13827306 >>13827280 >being this salty

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:36:18 2015 No.13827311 >>13827292 What if you learn to not take personal offense every time someone expresses an opinion and throw a fit demanding that people qualify all their statements by explicitly declaring it as such? You little shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:36:28 2015 No.13827312 >>13827305 And why do you care if someone dismisses a game for whatever reason? Stop looking for others acceptance and do whatever you want.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:37:35 2015 No.13827315 >>13827265 >I would like nothing better >Would you rather have koestl do TLC or have him do nothing >I would like nothing better

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:38:50 2015 No.13827320

>>13827101
>Imagine a scenario where SP says they have a license to a certain game and will use kickstarter for it. In the end, the kickstarter fails. What would they do with the license?

Bite the bullet and use profits from other games or take out a loan as an investment?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:40:00 2015 No.13827327 >>13827312 I'm not looking for acceptance, I'm calling people that refuse to play games for no reason idiots. If anything you're just salty that your hyped moogy circlejerk game didn't get licensed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:42:12 2015 No.13827334 >>13827327 >I'm calling anyone who refuses to play games I like idiots Really, just go back to the forums if you want people to circlejerk and agree with whatever you say without ever saying anything bad or mean about shit you like.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:44:35 2015 No.13827345

>>13827334
I've already stated the the initial shit-stirrer wasn't me, I just like to call out retards who can't even bear the mention of the word "yuri" without foaming at the mouth and calling for a MG boycott. I don't even like yuri but that shit's over the top and ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:45:11 2015 No.13827349 >>13827311 What if you didn't assume every person with a similar opinion is the same person, retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:45:53 2015 No.13827354 >>13827345 Who even mentioned a boycott? Someone just said that the game looked bad and that they weren't going to try it. That's it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:47:26 2015 No.13827361 >>13827354 People were salty over all the yuri licenses and I exaggerated as any non-autist can see. Flaunting your own ignorance of a game's reputation like a badge of honor is enough to set me off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:50:15 2015 No.13827373 >>13827361 >Flaunting your own ignorance of a game's reputation like a badge of honor is enough to set me off. Same, to be honest. And I assume the guy that got mad about the ChaosRaven post thinks the same way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:51:16 2015 No.13827378 >>13827345 >>13827361 >I just like to call out people that wont play games I like Just stop posting

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:53:31 2015 No.13827387

>>13827373
Yeah, and I'm not saying it's going to be a great game or anything, how the hell should I know? But don't act like it's some no-name piece of shit. It was a well-received game, sometimes I think people don't play a big enough variety of games to realize that they can enjoy different things too. Not that that guy needs to keep spamming that irrelevant Fuwa resident's opinion here, either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:54:54 2015 No.13827395 >>13827378 When did I say I liked it? If you won't play a well-received game for a superficial-ass reason I can only look down on you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:55:06 2015 No.13827399 >>13827378 Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:56:13 2015 No.13827403 I get the feeling there's just this one random guy shitposting on every /jp/ thread by trying to blend in and making the stupidest arguments out of nothing.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:57:41 2015 No.13827408

>>13827395
>>13827387
Yeah, you're totally going to convince everyone that didnt like it to play it because its "Well-recieved" or "Has high EGS scores". That's like recommending games to other people just because "It has high metacritic scores!" and dismissing everything that has a low score as absolute garbage.

None of that shit matters, your own opinion is the only one that matters because we're not a hivemind. If you think something is good because you enjoyed it then its good and if you hated something then its bad. That's it.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:59:55 2015 No.13827418

>>13827408
They can't not like it if they haven't played it, and while scores won't tell you whether or not you'll actually enjoy something chances are when you're looking for a new title to play you're not gonna go for the one 80% of everybody ever disliked.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:00:08 2015 No.13827420 >>13827403 Yurifags are everywhere and they ruin literally everything. Expect them to defend their shit to death and shitpost anyone that doesn't agree with them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:01:16 2015 No.13827426 >>13827420 I'm not a yurifag, I like Liar-soft and am actually willing to try games because I like a lot of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:01:22 2015 No.13827429 >>13827408 >If you think something is good because you enjoyed it then its good I feel bad for the people who raised you this way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:03:55 2015 No.13827443 >>13827403 That can't be true, because I do that but I also see other people doing that.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:04:02 2015 No.13827445

>>13827408
>None of that shit matters, your own opinion is the only one that matters
This so much. People here rely too much on the EGS score as if it's some objective judge of quality. I have a feeling that the only reason people hate Umineko is because daddy EGS told them to.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:05:12 2015 No.13827452

>>13827426
Then do so and enjoy it, I personally enjoy Liar-soft's stuff too but trying to convince and tell people to play it just because it has high scores or because the hivemind liked it is stupid. If you force someone to play something then odds are they wont change their opinion and will just shitpost about it.

There's different genres for different people and different audiences for different games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:05:34 2015 No.13827454 >>13827429 I feel mad at the people who raised you to shit on everyone who actually enjoys themselves.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:06:09 2015 No.13827458 >>13827445 I like Umineko but can totally understand why someone would feel let down by it. It's really not that inconceivable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:06:35 2015 No.13827460 >>13827420 >being this salty

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:09:16 2015 No.13827481

>>13827445
>>13827454
Yes, and your opinion isn't worth shit. In spite of the morass of subjectivity you'd drag us into, there are such things as artistic standards — common standards, shared among certain groups of people, people who know what they're talking about, people who express themselves better than others. Better according to whom? According to me. (It's all subjective, remember?) Objective standards might not exist in the realm of art, but these inter-subjective standards fulfil their role quite adequately. And they still allow plenty of room for argument and opinion.

In any case, your comment is made in bad faith. You've come in the level-headed guise of one advocating reason and common sense, but in truth your only aim is to justify your own juvenile opinions. "If I like it, it's good" is an excuse never to confront the flaws in the things you like, never to question your opinions, for fear you've built your fanboy life on piss-weak foundations.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:10:01 2015 No.13827487 >>13827481 >Yes, and your opinion isn't worth shit. Yours isn't worth shit either so why are you bothering?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:11:10 2015 No.13827494 >>13827481 >All this pseudo-intellectual shit because someone said the yuri title looked bad Hahaha holy shit

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:15:30 2015 No.13827522

>>13827458
I really hate 07's writing from what I've been exposed to of it, which is admittedly limited.
What he wrote for Rewrite is such a shoddily executed mystery that I can't stomach the idea of an entire series written by him.

Unreliable narration is fine, but when it's someone actively lying to themselves for no reason it crosses a line. And "SUDDENLY ALL THE ANSWERS WITH INFORMATION THE READER NEVER GOT TOLD" is the absolute worst way to resolve a mystery.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:16:13 2015 No.13827525 >>13827494 >pseudo That's straight up intellectual, bro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:16:17 2015 No.13827526 >>13827452 I don't see why EOPs who get 2 titles a year have room to be throwing well-received games that they know nothing about down the gutter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:17:36 2015 No.13827528 >>13827481 >"If I like it, it's good" is an excuse never to confront the flaws in the things you like. How so? It's not impossible to like something or think something is good despite it's flaws.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:17:52 2015 No.13827531

>>13827522
I can assure you that's not how it happens in Higurashi or Umineko. I don't know what Rewrite's like (and I've heard the English translation is pretty bad) but I have to assume it was some weird exception and he only wrote it for a quick buck since they could use his name to sell more copies. Kinda like how Gen Urobuchi gets blamed for shit he didn't even do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:18:18 2015 No.13827537 >>13827526 >>13827525 You're killing me here with this comedy gold

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:28:55 2015 No.13827578 So MG announced Yurirei and a bunch of kusoge, and nobody else did anything of value. Oh well. Guess I was right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:30:47 2015 No.13827589 >>13827578 I'm not seeing any kusoge in MG's announcements, you may be looking at Sekai Project's release catalogue.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:30:50 2015 No.13827590

So since everyone is shilling this Yurirei hard, I want someone to tell me what exactly is good about it?

MG described it as "Lesbians on the rooftop that want to make a YURITOPIA!" which sounds pretty generic and not interesting at all. So what the appeal of it without using the company that made it or someone else's opinion/scores?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:31:15 2015 No.13827594 >>13827578 Deciding something is kusoge from its EGS score is about as bad is deciding that based on its premise

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:31:51 2015 No.13827598 >>13827578 But yurirei is counted among the kusoge

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:39:44 2015 No.13827641 >>13827594 No. No it's not. You are retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:41:28 2015 No.13827648 >>13827266 The kickstarter was obviously a cashgrab by Frontwing. They don't care about the western audience now that they have their kickstarter money.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:42:02 2015 No.13827650 >>13827641 At best you can decide it's not as high-profile and well-received. Kusoge is a retarded term to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:43:01 2015 No.13827657 >>13827650 No. You are retarded. Everything you say is retarded. Stop. Put the keyboard down. And leave.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:43:57 2015 No.13827660 >>13827320 Not if the game is too risky of not being profitable. They won't risk taking a loss.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:46:32 2015 No.13827673 >>13827657 How can you call a game you know nothing about save a single number assigned to it bad? It might very well be but you simply can't know yet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:47:19 2015 No.13827679 >>13827590 It's cute and it has cute yuri and it's 18+ and it has cute yuri sex and it's really cute.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:47:42 2015 No.13827682 This thread is great proof why yurifags are the worst kind of posters that no one likes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:47:50 2015 No.13827685 >>13827673 Because unlike you, I'm not retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:49:41 2015 No.13827702 >>13827685 "Ignorant" would probably be more accurate, look at all of us, arguing about games we haven't played and couldn't even if we wanted to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:52:37 2015 No.13827715 >>13827679 So it has yuri sex, I got it from the yuritopia part. Where are the real reasons to read it? Does it have anything to offer that isnt lesbians?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:09:40 2015 No.13827794 >>13827590 >shilling >generic Anyone dumb enough to use this word is never going to genuinely enjoy a game anyway, so why bother.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:10:18 2015 No.13827796 >>13827794 Im still waiting for the reasons

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:12:04 2015 No.13827805

>>13827715
>Does it have anything to offer that isnt lesbians?

Dude, it's a yuri game. What exactly do you expect? It's just well written romance. If that's not your thing, why are you even looking at it? It's like asking "Does this gun do anything besides shoot bullets?"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:13:09 2015 No.13827809 >>13827796 Fuck off, retard.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:14:59 2015 No.13827818

>>13827715
>>13827794
Does [insert popular moege title] have anything to offer that isn't heterosexuals?

The answer to both questions is comedy, romance, cute and likable girls.

If it seems like it's being overrated, that's probably because it's being compared to most yuri games, which are lame. The tagline for this game could be "It's actually relatively good!"

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:18:55 2015 No.13827836

>>13827818
I think the problem is people confuse "generic" with bad. Quality, not originality, is what makes a good game.

That's why people dismissing Tokyo Babel simply because "I've seen this type of story before" are stupid. Yeah, but have you seen it told like THIS? What's this, you ask? Read it and find out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:22:03 2015 No.13827849 What's with all the massive skeptics that always show up to look down their nose at literally every new VN that's announced, anyway?

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:24:16 2015 No.13827857

>>13827849
Elitists and Yurifags

Elitists hate everything that isnt moogy approved or is translated because "fucking EOPs man"

Yurifags hate everything that isnt yuri, are violently allergic to males and will react badly to anything with males while unironically using words like "hetshit" and the like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:28:44 2015 No.13827879 >>13827857 I was the one defending Yurirei and both Propeller titles. That's retarded.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:29:03 2015 No.13827881
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>>13827522
>What he wrote for Rewrite is such a shoddily executed mystery that I can't stomach the idea of an entire series written by him.
...except no part of it was a mystery. I think you may have had the wrong expectations, probably due to R07 being considered a mystery writer (especially in the West where Umineko is more popular than Higurashi). The start of it was just a drama story with unknown elements and a lot of misdirection (with the (in my opinion well-accomplished) purpose of making the reader think the rumor wasn't true). After that it's not even remotely like a mystery.

Ryukishi07 pulled a similar trick early on in Higurashi episode 2 where you have never heard of Shion before, Keiichi meets Shion and there's confusion about whether Mion's just pretending to have a twin sister or if she really has one, nudging you towards 'just pretending' before revealing that she DOES have a twin sister. I somehow managed to avoid even that basic information before reading and was caught completely off-guard by that simple twist. Ryukishi07 is a genius at playing with your head.

Though the early Lucia route twist in Rewrite didn't have quite that impact, I was definitely convinced the whole 'everything I touch dies' thing was just in her head...until she demonstrated it to Koutarou.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:32:54 2015 No.13827904

>>13827879
Maybe I should have used the word "most".

There are certainly exceptions and rational people that like yuri but sadly, the majority of the "yurifags" that post on this site are like that and are really the kind of person you dont want to discuss things with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:34:28 2015 No.13827913 >>13827904 Is there even such a thing as somebody who play exclusively yuri games? That would mean they play next to nothing.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:36:41 2015 No.13827926

>>13827913
There actually is.

There's people that consume only all-girls media and violently reject anything that isnt all girls or has a male MC. If they're not lesbians then they'll delude themselves into thinking the girls are totally lesbians and want to fuck each other.

If they explicitly state the girls are interested in men and not women then they will furiously shit on it or disregard it and push their yuri stuff anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:38:23 2015 No.13827935 >>13827849 And yet, you only get upset by that. Not by people excited by literally every new VN that's announced. Why might that be, you hugbox little shit?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:38:33 2015 No.13827937 >>13827926 Then I'm inclined to believe those people are such a rarity in the western VN scene that you need not worry yourself over them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:39:46 2015 No.13827940 >>13827857 I have literally never seen yuri fans hate on non-yuri announcements. If anything, I see a ton of whining about "yurishit" any time a yuri game is announced, along with all the "fucking EOPs man" posts. You're just trying to push an agenda.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:40:48 2015 No.13827945 >>13827935 >Not by people excited by literally every new VN that's announced. Because there are no people like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:41:40 2015 No.13827952 >>13827940 How about this thread and everyone calling all the VNs announced that arent Yurirei shit?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:41:48 2015 No.13827953 >>13827926 Holy shit, you remind me of those psychos that freak out about "the SJW menace" at the slightest provocation.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:42:08 2015 No.13827955

>>13827836
Yeah, I know what you mean. My bad, actually, I meant to respond to >>13827590 but instead responded to 13827794 . Maybe I shouldn't have bothered elaborating, it's just I got the impression that anon might be sincerely curious about Yurirei, in spite of their using flamebait terms like "generic" probably learned from /a/.

Looking at the number of comments on Reddit and votes in strawpolls, Tokyo Babel is being viewed favorably, so I assume any negative reaction is an instinctive cringing at the pure chuuni-ness of the premise. I played a bit of it before and liked it a lot; Lilith and her seiyuu kick ass.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:42:46 2015 No.13827960 >>13827935 There's a difference between being excited for something and not excessively shitting on Mangagamer for not getting Dies Irae.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:42:51 2015 No.13827961 >>13827952 They're not saying that because of yuri. They're saying it simply because Yurirei is the only one with a positive reception in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:44:41 2015 No.13827973 >>13827952 They were just people that take EGS too seriously, not Yurifags.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:45:26 2015 No.13827976 >>13827961 And using that to call everything not Yurirei shit or kusoges. Just read up, all these arguments and discussion is all about yurirei and how hivemind ratings are the word of god.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:46:28 2015 No.13827984 >>13827976 Which has nothing to do with yuri and everything to do with wanting to get games the japs liked.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:47:06 2015 No.13827986 >>13827976 You're aware that people like to troll, right? Stop taking everything as a personal attack on you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:47:40 2015 No.13827989 >>13827984 >>13827973 >>13827961 I'll honestly never understand the obsession people have with ratings and stuff. Or the people obsessed with Japan's taste on things.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:50:07 2015 No.13828001 >>13827881 >a drama story with unknown elements When the unknown elements are the core focus of the drama, how is that not a mystery story?

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:50:22 2015 No.13828002

>>13827989
It's kind of silly but people want to get games thay were originally well-regarded. People feel like they're getting shafted with games like Supipara thay nobody liked over there because they want to get the "good stuff." Not that I have much faith in an unfinished all-ages moege myself.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:50:42 2015 No.13828004

>>13827989
I don't either. Especially the ones that seriously say how this game is totally a "kusoge", it's like, you aren't Japanese, did you seriously just use that word?

But even outside of Japan it's stupid. So many idiots going "Wow, look at this Metacritic average, must suck". Average scores are literally the worst thing you can pay attention to, if you're going to look at someone else's scores, at least look at the INDIVIDUAL scores. It almost feels like a joke when they seriously point to averages like an important thing, yet they're completely serious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:52:41 2015 No.13828010 >>13828004 To be fair, reading EGS reviews can be a good way to get a feel for if you'll like a game or not. And if a lot of people are saying something is disappointing and the reason is well defined then there might be something to it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:54:21 2015 No.13828017 >>13828010 That's what I mean, reading the actual reviews, not the average scores. Especially when averages can be thrown off hard by varying opinions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:55:21 2015 No.13828019 >>13827955 >Lilith and her seiyuu kick ass. >Miyuki Sawashiro Oh hell yes.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:57:13 2015 No.13828029

>>13828017
I'd like to think most people look at the EGS score and then look at some reviews to see why, at least. They're usually not that hard to read even without much Japanese knowledge. You still shouldn't just easily write something off unless it looks genuinely terrible, of course, and with popular stuff it's not often that you run into anything that's genuinely, offensively bad.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 21:57:35 2015 No.13828030

>>13828010
>>13828004
>>13828002
People do joke reviews or votes a lot too.
Like voting things as 10/10 just to make a joke or just vote 1 all the stuff they didn't like or didn't appeal to them.

Japan tends to hate on some things for stupid reasons and metacritic scores are a huge joke over here with stuff like "10/10 its shit".

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 22:00:16 2015 No.13828038

>>13828029
I'll personally write anything off that isn't the kind of stuff I like. Time is too limited and life is too short to be doing things you don't want to dp or reading things you don't like just because they were reviewed higly by someone you don't know.

The only time i'll ever consider something outside of the stuff I like is if a friend recommends me something and proceeds to tell me why its good and why I should read it.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 22:00:37 2015 No.13828040

>>13828030
Ironic votes should be pretty easy to pick up on if you look at the damn reviews. Especially if the game in question seems genuinely bad like something people would jokingly pretend to like. That's why it's important to find if the hate/love is justified.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 22:01:24 2015 No.13828041

>>13828001
>When the unknown elements are the core focus of the drama, how is that not a mystery story?
It's only a mystery story if it is expected that, through deduction using given hints, the reader predicts the twist before it happens. Hiding elements that draw the interest of the reader and revealing them as plot twists without them being reasonably solvable, often with foreshadowing, is plenty common in fiction. For another example in VNs, the identities of the Servants in Fate/stay night is shrouded in mystery and you are constantly wondering which heroes the Servants are. It's even a central element in UBW (complete with tons of foreshadowing), yet nobody's going to call it a mystery.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 22:01:43 2015 No.13828045 >>13828040 But reviews tend to have spoilers and what kind of person would spoil themselves on something they havent read just to find out if its good or bad?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 22:02:01 2015 No.13828049 >>13828038 In the world of translated VNs I can't imagine drowning in too much stuff to read that I'd have to be choosey. It would be nice.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 22:03:46 2015 No.13828057

>>13828029
>I'd like to think most people look at the EGS score and then look at some reviews to see why, at least.

Me too, but I've seen a lot of Americans who only ever look at review scores when they judge a game, and write them off immediately. I can't underestimate human stupidity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 22:05:46 2015 No.13828061 >>13828049 You underestimate how long it takes to read VNs and how many translated VNs there are out there already. Not to mention games to play besides VNs, like The Witcher 3. There is so much to do even without worrying about Japanese-only games.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 22:09:02 2015 No.13828070

>>13828049
But you can.

Why read a VN thats not your thing when you can do something you actually enjoy? Why waste 20+ hours of your life reading something just because it got a translation?

Play a game you like, watch a show you like or do something you actually like and you'll enjoy yourself a lot more that way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 22:15:02 2015 No.13828088 >>13828070 Except I like pretty much everything I play and if I don't I drop it. There's really not much translated

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 22:37:13 2015 No.13828155 Gonna try Ayakashibito before these other Propeller games come out. If I like it, it means those two will be good as well.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 22:43:04 2015 No.13828169

>>13828155
>Gonna try Ayakashibito before these other Propeller games come out. If I like it, it means those two will be good as well.
Not always.

For example, Majikoi and Akame ga kill were written by the same author and they're pretty different so if you like one, you might not like the other.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 23:22:10 2015 No.13828308
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>>13827049
>I wonder if this Nenokami game is like Chrono Clock in that the h-scenes are separate.
The official site says that the append disc adds the ero content to the main scenario, so I guess you could think of it more like a reverse Nekopara.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 23:33:28 2015 No.13828338 >>13828155 Propeller has been notoriously pretty shit in recent years. Their most recently released games is a holy shit giga mine on par with Death March.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 23:42:42 2015 No.13828363 >>13828169 Not the best example there since I do like both of those, but I know what you mean. >>13828338 I'm not sure what that means, but these two are both a few years old anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 01:04:08 2015 No.13828667 >>13820554 When you think about it, it's pretty damn silly that the game BDH typed "Otakon Hyyyyyyyyyyype" for was Agreement. Well, does make sense that she would be hella excited for a yuri game, though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 01:17:31 2015 No.13828745 >>13828667 According to some MG staff, MG chose Agreement over other propeller games because BDH insisted on it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 01:38:08 2015 No.13828827 >>13828667 Well, propeller partnership was pretty hype for me. I hope they pick their older titles along the way.

Anonymous Sun Jul 26 01:55:14 2015 No.13828893

>>13828745
Really now? Well, good for him that he's working on something he genuinely likes and wants to work on, it's always nice to see that. I wonder what else they were considering, though.

>>13828827
It is definitely a cool thing. Bullet Butlers someday, perhaps.

Anonymous Sun Jul 26 03:37:40 2015 No.13829245

>>13828308
Interesting. So they didn't necessarily write it with ero in mind, but worked some optional ero content into the plot for people who want that. Meaning it's not exactly a "cut", so all-ages only is more understandable than usual in this case. I wouldn't mind that so much, but man, I really need to see lesbian sex. Like, desperately.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 07:16:56 2015 No.13829774 >>13828667 Are we talking bullshit light subtext or do we actually get something approaching kissing? While I don't generally enjoy chuuni stuff, a female lead and possible shoujo ai romance with Hana Kana would make me give it a shot at least.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 07:40:43 2015 No.13829821 >>13828893 And Evolimit anon, don't forget about their best title.

Anonymous Sun Jul 26 08:39:57 2015 No.13829960

>>13825731
https://vndb.org/t3188
>This is a game that will take at least thirty hours for even the fastest reader to complete and most people at least fifty hours, so don't expect to be able to clear a path in a single day unless you are pretty fluent.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 08:56:42 2015 No.13830001 >>13828667 >she Poor BDH. I think he's losing his masculinity. Perhaps he already turned into a little girl?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 08:59:26 2015 No.13830005 >>13830001 He was always a little girl, inside.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 09:04:42 2015 No.13830017 File: 157 KB, 1024x576, 4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13829774

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 09:34:43 2015 No.13830101 >>13830017 How endearing, they must be great friends.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 11:38:49 2015 No.13830393 >>13829960 That's a quote from famous machine TL user, clephas. Of course it'll take longer to read a game if you're trying to make sense of ATLAS.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 18:27:11 2015 No.13831685 >>13825743 >>13825752 Taimanin Asagi 3 has 131869 lines and is 1.71mb. 10 - 30 hours on VNDB. Clearly these are not good metrics.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 18:28:50 2015 No.13831692 I trust Conjueror about Tokyo Babel anyway, since I like him. And in the end, that's really all that matters.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 19:41:13 2015 No.13832016 >>13831685 Script size in MB is the best we've got, vndb's estimated length is too broad and there's probably not much thought put into it. I'd ignore that altogether unless they have it tagged as really short or really long.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 21:28:13 2015 No.13832455 >>13832016 That's exactly what I was saying earlier.

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