/jp/ - Otaku Culture

So, there's still time to marathon it to get some weeb cred before it becomes a kusoge?

Can't believe you're actually using my trolling for an entirely new thread. I guess I should feel honored.

https://twitter.com/Conjueror/status/623038862227456000
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Didn't know 4chan doesn't support these type of characters

>>13802294
>7 minute OP

What the fuck? What insanity is this?

>>13802307

2muchplot

>>13802307
That video actually has 3 different OPs.

Holy shit.

Moogy-dono says it's not.

Gonna be funny to watch all the disappointment.

>>13802294
It's safe to say it would be more likely for a submarine to fall on top of your house than Dies Irae being translated OP.

Just saying

>>13803085
VN scene in a nutshell.

"This totally won't happen, it's impossible!"
>It happens anyway.

>>13804339
Who are you quoting?

>>13804339
Even Moogy has long acknowldged that Dies is theoretically feasible unlike KKK, Albatross, and the like.

>>13804348
Reality.

>>13804367
Indeed. And when even Moogy admits it, you know it's a sure thing.

>>13804367
What VN is "KKK"?

>>13804512
神咒神威神楽

>>13804532
Ah, this one. I know it but I was just drawing a blank from that acronym.

Well, we know MG's got a partnership with Light. I wouldn't actually rule it out, once they're done with DI.

>Suddenly, it's Silverio Vendetta

>>13804565
Would not surprise me at all tbh, it's one of the Dies Irae wannabes.

>>13804367
>theoretically feasible
Well, in theory you can really translate most stuff

The question is how well it can convey the original text's meaning, and that just won't happen in Dies.

You gotta be fucking insane to want to translate it.

None of the opening songs match those notes at all.

>>13804607
>You gotta be fucking insane to want to translate it.

Take a look at Conjueror's Twitter. I think we've found our man.

>>13804607
Insane you say?

>>13804779
What does the punctuation over a sentence mean? I saw that in Umineko too. I thought it was some fancy magic shit exclusive to that series, but perhaps not.

>>13804936
It's kinda like italics. Just for emphasis.

>>13804936
It's emphasis, like ** just not as emphatic (maybe smth close to 'this' in English language)

I was writing something and then it was kind of like the pen was floating across the paper and my hand wasn't there. It was so weird.

>>13805503
???

>>13805515
Strangest thing about this? I've never done drugs.

>>13805518
Ghost writer!!!

>>13804367
Everything, even if it contains content exclusive to the Japanese language, can be translated. People have been doing it with literature far more difficult than KKK or Asairo for a long time.

>>13804779
The fact that you cannot be trusted makes you trustworthy. Remain thus, Seisanhai. Your desire may paradoxical, but precisely that makes it interesting. From the beginning Carl and I have appreciated that aspect of you.
Thus, do what you will, so long as you do not disappoint us. Follow through with your twisted justice. To me, it is all the same.

>>13805596
I do not accept this translation.
>Follow through with your twisted justice
It's a nice try, but it messes up completely here
>To me, it's all the same

What is the same? There's something going on there that cannot be put into english for obvious reasons. That is actually one of the reasons I wouldn't want to translate Dies is because it pulls that off several times.

I hope you know what I'm talking about

I could nag more but that's probably the biggest problem, and though that's probably close to the best that can be done, it's still not enough.

And this is baby stuff on Dies, the more you approach mercurius the more your brain melts as you try to figure out how to put his sentences in English while trying to sound as ..."epic" as he does.

>>13805668
Also like to add that, I don't accept it, but I don't believe I'd be able to pull a better one either.

I probably wouldn't be able to translate much while accepting what I'm translating, it would drive me crazy.
Sorry if I sounded a bit hasty there.

>>13805580
to translate KKK the first step would be to publish improved translations of various ancient buddhist texts

>>13805668
>To me, it's all the same
He's probably referring to insanity and justice being the same to him.

It's been a while since I've read Dies, and I'm not sure if this would work in any other scenes, but I think you shouldn't be afraid to go a little bit liberal here:

Follow through with your madness, or if you prefer, justice. "For what are those two if not two sides of the same coin?" or "It matters not whichever face you choose -- they are all one and the same to me."

I might've only ruined this though.
Translating this game is definitely a mad endeavor.

>>13805753
Yeah, that's what he is referring and is clear when you read from the Japanese text, but when it goes to English it becomes unclear and may even be saying something completely different.

Seisanhai's justice and his insanity are one and the same to kemonodono (the speaker), and that's really cool effect done by the reading on top of 狂気, you could try to circumvent this using parenthesis "your madness (justice)" but it would be confusing since you don't know why that's there, in english parenthesis can be used for explanation of the previous terms, but in this case it's used as a synonym, that these words are one and the same.

>>13805580
The problem is that the type of people who read visual novels are not competent translators, compared to those who have been working on said difficult literature. That's why you have so many of these fucks like Moogy saying "It's untranslatable" and stuff. Not even people who hold their own skills in "high" regard have the skill to translate.

http://uneedzone.jp/info.php?type=items&id=I0000022

Wouldn't be surprising since the anime is going to happen.

>>13805792
Did they managed to fund it?

Man, the anime would be so confusing, Idk how they'd do it.

>300% Over
holy fuck

>>13805790
Are there any competent jap translators on the market?

>>13805795
It's just going to be a single episode pilot, so presumably it'll barely cover the start or it'll be some absurd thing that tries to cover all the important points in under half an hour. Kinda silly this actually got funded, don't people know how VN anime usually goes? Well, the hope is that this pilot will be successful enough that it's picked up for a full series, which would hopefully also be pretty long. But that's only a pipe dream.

>>13805807
No, sorry I don't really give much of a shit about anime.

Didn't Grisaia get a full 13 episode series though?

>>13805815
13 episodes is generally nowhere near enough time to properly adapt a VN. Grisaia no Kajitsu did indeed get that but most agree that they fucked the pacing hard. However, there was also a 47 minute OVA for Meikyuu and a 10 episode series for Rakuen, which has been received more positively.

One of the few good adaptations was the recent Unlimited Blade Works, since it was 26 episodes long and focused only on covering that specific route.

>>13805830
29 episodes actually, my mistake.

>>13805830
There's no way they can adapt Dies into an anime
The first route can be quite hard to understand and the game doesn't expect you to understand too much either, you gotta play the other routes

Unless they pull off some original stuff not in the VN (similar to DEEN's F/SN...which was terrible iirc), it's just "woah you're setting yourself for failure" sort of thing.

>>13805836
Yeah, I'm not expecting much. Going by how most VN anime turn out, it's probably going to be the usual "Only people who have read the VN will understand what's going on, and they will not be happy with this, and everyone else will just get spoiled hardcore" situation.

In Aoiro Rinne, do you get to have sex with the girl?

>>13805836
It's Masada himself writing the script for anime, though.

>>13805906
Doesn't necessarily mean that it will be a good adaptation. Just that it won't destroy his own vision.

>>13805914
Already more promising that 99% vn adaptations.

Still, it will probably suck.

>mfw MangaGamer gets Dies Irae

>>13806068
If MG actually licensed Dies Irae many places will be on fire this weekend.

>>13806068
Kill yourself.

>>13806173
That would be remarkably apt, wouldn't it? Considering the original hymn.

Here's what I don't get. If the Japanese tweet is really not alluding to Dies Irae and/or Aoiro Rinne, how come literally nobody has offered up a better answer? Surely you can come up with SOMETHING it fits from all those VNs you've played. Or perhaps these really are the best possible fits and you just don't want to admit it.

>>13806496
And perhaps you're just desperate and full of wishful thinking.

We'll all know in few days.

>>13806523
Yeah, but until then, it doesn't hurt to TRY.

>>13806531
What do you want us to try? Most people haven't read Aoiro but it seems to fit the hint. A lot better than Dies anyway. MG is obviously going to be intentionally vague because they don't want people to actually guess it with any degree of certainty. You'll see what I mean when it turns out the hint was for お隣の黒人夫に抱かれて啼き悶える最愛の妻。 その引き換えに味わう黒人妻の肌。 -Big Black Cock & Big Black Butt & My Sweet Wife- the entire time.

>>13805777
I like the idea of using a hyphen here to convey that meaning. Maybe something like "Follow through with your madness-justice. For those two are all the same to me." It's a bit more explicit than the original but I think it conveys the meaning fairly well.

>>13806496
The hint is so vague, it could basically be anything related to apocalypse and symbolism, like, say, Sumaga, Subahibi, Swan Song, Cross+Channel, etc.

>>13806559
Should pull the ol' GHS. "Follow through with your madstice."

>>13806564
Cross Channel confirmed.

>>13806564
Could be Cross Channel: Final Complete.

Doesn't seem impossible. People would probably be happy about being able to read vastly enhanced version of Cross Channel with probably a better translation than both existing.

>>13806697
Let's be real. Cross Channel has never had a translation.

At this point I guess the only certainty is that no matter what we get, it's gonna be some crazy shit. I'm looking forward to it.

>>13806729
>mfw it's some normal moege and all the shit about end and rebirth simply refers to the act of finishing one route and loading a previous save to make different choices

He hint sounded nothing like Dies Irae to me, personally.

If anything:

漆黒 sounds like Shikkoku no Sharnoth
銀色の光 sounds like Muramasa (wtf)
最終決戦で流される血潮は might be related to Dies, but so it could be to a billion of other chuunige.
輪廻 sounds like Ao Rinne

And it reads nothing like Masada's writing, so yeah.

>>13805668
>And this is baby stuff on Dies, the more you approach mercurius the more your brain melts as you try to figure out how to put his sentences in English while trying to sound as ..."epic" as he does.
Yeah, I think meaning is pretty much always doable without losing much (even if I personally can't do it). But translating the ways of speech i Japanese is just impossible. That's not restricted to Dies Irae though.

>>13806750
I'm okay with moege too.

>>13806759
>銀色の光 sounds like Muramasa (wtf)

Oh man.

>>13806868
Jast gets Flowers from MG.
MG gets Muramasa from Jast.

I'd be fine with this.

>>13807634
It'd certainly be an acceptable alternative to Dies Irae.

It's Mahoutsukai no Yoru.

Wait, that's it. They're referring to multiple games in the hint. So that's why it sounds like nothing specific. Because all of the games they're announcing are alluded to in this.

>>13806759
銀色 has as much to do with DI as Muramasa

>>13807703
Muramasa is better, only 13 year olds think otherwise.

>>13809619
Yeah, I can totally see how you could get through that game without picking up 銀星号, and countless descriptions of her being like silver light/star piercing through the heavens.

Either way, it can't possibly be alluding to Muramasa, a coincidence at best.

>>13809654
I didn't say it had nothing to do with Muramasa, just that it also has equally as much to do with DI.

Maybe you shouldn't be posting if you haven't read both.

It's the Tsukihime remake.

It's Otome Function.

It's Sakura no Uta.

...I guess that joke doesn't really work anymore.

>>13809745
Hmm, I don't remember any silver lights being in Dies.

Ah, I guess you could argue that 水銀 has a kanji for silver, and the name of the company itself is "light".

Either way, the hint is too vague. You can tie it to pretty much any game if you try hard enough.

It's Katawa Shoujo: RAITA for REAL edition.

Completely new plot, no more romances, just hardcore cripple fuck.

And not made by weeaboos but actual nipponjin.

>>13809773
Jokes aside I wouldn't mind a cripple fetish nukige somewhere down the line.

>>13809785
Hear hear.

I mean, amputee is one fetish, why can't cripple?

>>13806545
Aoiro Rinne doesn't seem likely given Doddler's comment:

>Let me think... I don't believe any of the 5 titles have had a translation project before.
https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/623258011952218112

Cafe was fantranslating it before, that eliminates it from being a possibility.

>>13810554
You guys are reading into that comment too much. Remember how people thought "up until now" meant Lucas was replacing Ness? And then both of them were in anyway. Silly.

Obviously what he means is they haven't had a project completed, since the person was asking about them rereleasing fan translations officially. So any dead and/or unfinished projects are fair game.

Its not dies you dumb faggots

>>13810627
Yes, it is.

>>13802294
Sounds like Corona.

>>13810627
Only idiots call Dies Irae "Dies" for short.

>>13806729
You do well anon. Cojueror said this on a youtube video page:
>For now you can look forward to Himawari, and the next visual novel Gare and I are working on for MangaGamer (to be announced at Otakon). As a big fan of Dies Irae, I can assure that both of those are great games, too.
Source - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSIu2CCRrA4&lc

>>13809769
Mercurius = Suigin no Hebi

>>13802294
If it does happen, JAST would counter with Muramasa and the great eroge war of 2015 would begin. Nothing that SP could ever dream of releasing could compete with them. Grisaia brought a lot of new people into the vn scene but after reading a couple of SP's other releases they'd realize most of, if not all of their releases are kusoge.

>>13805801
Of course, but they wouldn't waste their time on porn games unless they were paid a lot. VN translators barely get minimum wage.

>>13812603
Aren't they paid per word and not per hour? So nobody who loves money would want go do a good translation of something hard to translate?

>>13812615
It's not good pay and the work is excruciating and brain-melting

>>13812539
Hey let's not tempt them now.

They can always license Scarlett.

>>13812539
Haha, if JAST countered with Muramasa the war wouldn't begin until approximately 2018.

Who has Aiyoku no Eustia? JAST or MG?

>>13812701
Why would anybody have an August game? That would mean an end to the curse, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

>>13812728
Because next month is August. It makes perfect sense.

>>13812696
>>13812683
What more evidence do you need?

>>13812975
I mean, regardless of them having it, it's not being released until 2018. Because JAST is fucking slow.

>>13813020
Or even 2020. Well. that's the price we've got to pay for a great game being translated by a great translator.

Does JAST have KnS 3?

>>13813027
Except that he just flat out isn't working on Muramasa at present.

>>13813055
Yes, they have Flowers.

>>13813083
Most likely he finished it and locked it away until Nitro+ decides to release it to the west or use it as a last resort to get back on top. Never could tell..

>>13813146
That would be seriously infuriating if a FINISHED Muramasa is seriously sitting around not getting released. This is the ultimate kamige and that's the one they decide to pull that shit with? Ugh.

>>13813175
Well convincing Nitro+ for the rights to it would be pretty tough unless they get a better fan base, I don't think he'd release a full fan translation. We just might get a trial patch with "coming soon" to build hype.

>>13813194
If they got the rights to all that other Nitro+ stuff why couldn't they get it for Muramasa?

>>13814051
Well, they're probably going to have to get a few more Nitro+ titles released before they'll be able to do something top-shelf like Muramasa. And in JAST time, that means we might as well sit back and not make any hasty assumptions.

>>13813194
JAST already has the rights to release whatever Nitro+ game they want, Muramasa included. The problem is that Makoto hasn't finished Django yet.

Wait. What if in the translation, they just put "madness" and then "justice" above it like furigana. Or whatever it was supposed to be. I've seen a game do that before. I wanna say it was Utawarerumono.

>>13815564
That actually would be a fun title to have especially since there are sequels coming out.

>>13815570
https://youtu.be/STg4Ya8bEFo

It's also getting an anime. Can't wait.

>>13815570
Atlus will probably do that if anything.

>>13815564
You could also do some programing magic and make the words justice and madness fluctuate between each other at a few second interval.

You can do all sorts of shit if you mess with the engine a little: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuF5gWLlSlE&list=PL4FE03279FA2A0C42&index=7

>>13815843
Damn, that's a cool idea too. And I bet Doddler could pull it off, since he's Doddler. See, these are some of the things VNs can do that books can't. It's good to be able to think outside of the box with stuff like this, there are a lot more possibilities for handling odd translations than one might initially assume from thinking in terms of normal books.

>>13815956
Doddler is best at snow.

>>13811943
If the hint is about the game they're working on then it's going to be Silverio Vendetta since they both played it and it's from light.

>>13816348
That would be pretty funny. I hadn't even heard of that game until I was browsing Light's games to see what else they have, but then I was like "Holy crap, this actually sounds like the silver thing they're talking about." So it actually seems kind of possible. Although it's really new, so that would be extra impressive, but a good sign for VN localization.

Really, any non-DI Light game would still be a seriously big deal, because it's practically a guarantee that they'd be able to get Dies Irae if there's enough interest. I don't know how Silverio Vendetta is since I don't really trust a buncha votes with no opinions behind them, but it sounds pretty badass. If I had to guess I'd figure it's still good, just that it doesn't get as much attention because everybody's all about Dies Irae. I think all of Light's games are like that, pretty much.

>>13816722
I don't think Masada's involved in it at all so I reckon it's a pretty different beast from DI. Either way, a light partnership would be legendary no matter what they're releasing. Emphasis on the "would."

>>13815744
Are they really? Didn't Tears to Tiara II sold like shit? Well in any case, if MG were to get it, they could only get the first Utawarerumono since it's on PC. The sequels are on the Playstation consoles and MG has no money for that.

>>13817513
I have no idea about the sales (there's not much sales data for stuff like this out there), but I mean that Atlus is the company with the partnership with Leaf. They also did Aquapazza. So if anyone does Utawarerumono it'd probably be them.

I figure the PC Utawarerumono is too old for MG anyway. There's not a whole lot of point to them doing it.

>>13817513
For MG, sure. But SP has a PSN developer license already (since they have released for the PSP), so it would probably be a lot easier for Dovac & co to get their grubby hands into the Aquaplus jar, and, given his well-known greed and lack of ethics, he might even kickstart it to ride the anime's wave.

>>13817554
>(since they have released for the PSP)

Eh? When?

>>13817533
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/75219/tears-to-tiara-ii-haou-no-matsuei/USA/

>>13817559
Yeah, you're right, looks like they didn't. I could swear that I'd seen something to that effect somewhere. My bad.

>>13817609
They used PSP grisaia as a basis for making their all ages grisaia iirc, that's probably what confused you

>>13817559
>>13817609

It was one of the kickstarter goals for Grisaia to be on the Vita. Funny thing was he promised that before he even got the license.

>>13817617

>>13817632
I'm just glad we're getting Michiru no Naku Koro ni Chiru.

Man, imagine having a Dies Irae background and emoticons on Steam, though. Shit will be great.

>>13818240
VNs themselves are great. VNs on Steam, not so much.

>>13818247
Maybe in terms of playing them, but you cannot deny the appeal of plastering your waifu all over your Steam profile.

On that note, let's hear from everyone. Who is best Dies Irae waifu? You may choose a man but you still have to call him a waifu.

>>13818346
Just fucking stop.

>>13818358
Oh, I have only just gotten started, my friend.

>>13818362
Really? I can't imagine this level of faggotry not being a lifelong thing.

>>13818367
You misunderstand. I have only just gotten started with taking my faggotry to an even higher level than that. Be prepared. The entire world will shudder.

>>13802294
>in that twitter post a poster said
>English motherfucker, do you speak it?

Got me off guard with that one.

>>13818374
There's no way you could be more of a faggot than you are now. It's just not physically possible.

>>13818382
Oh, you'd be surprised. By the way, your genitalia looks rather appetizing.

It's not Dies Irae, and if you still think it is, you're an idiot and will probably be majorly disappointed when you learn what it actually is.

>>13818905
Didn't the translator himself denounce the rumor in youtube comments or something?

>>13818477
Very gay.

>>13818935
Several MG-related people have pretty much confirmed that it isn't DI.

It's Aoiro Rinne, by the way. Not really a surprise at this point, but yeah.

>>13818948
Are you absolutely sure it's Aoiro? A few things don't really add up there.

>>13818954
I hope this VN isn't as hellish as Yu-No.

>>13818958
It's worse.

>>13818954
I guess I won't say "absolutely", but yeah, that's what it is.

>>13818948
>Aoiro Rinne
>Unavoidable Rape 2.3
>Netorare 1.7
>Sex with Insects 1.2
>Necrophilia 1.0

I really hope this isn't the announcement.

>>13818938
Thanks, that's how I like it.

>>13818973
>Sex with Insects 1.2

You fucking what?

>>13818973
Sounds like this should belong to JAST.

>>13818973
Someone from MG actually said they would never do a game with necrophilia a while back at some convention when the euphoria speculation was big. It wouldn't surprise me if they changed their minds, but it's interesting.

>>13818979
Isn't SP already doing that?

>>13818992
Ready for censorship?

>>13819003
Yes. Nevertheless I am very curious what it means in the context of this game. Can someone who played it explain?

>>13819036

doddler pls

Thankfully, I'm fine with either games.

Dies Irae being philosophy wank chuunige is interesting but the extreme content in Aoiro is interesting too (and I like games with heavy focus on the sexing and gross content anyway).

>>13819054
It's not Dies Irae. If it's anything by light, which it probably isn't, it's Silverio.

>>13819036
I wonder if they'll actually mention Albatross Sky Butlers at the panel. That would be amazing. Well, if they aren't, someone is planning to.

>>13819061
If it's not Dies Irae, please let it be Aoiro.

God, it's obvious as hell that MG staff fucking browse /jp/ now.

Is MG the official /jp/ company?

>>13819069
How new are you?

>>13819069
It's "obvious as hell" as if they haven't literally posted here on numerous occasions. Come on, dude.

>>13819069
Good Haro posts on /jp/ fairly often and I seem to remember Maria as well. It's not some sort of secret conspiracy.

>>13819073
>>13819074
I've seen them here but they are using /jp/ memes now.
No more secret hangout.

>>13819065
It's gonna be the new game, Dies Rinne.

>>13819078
Bro. They were /jp/ posters before they even started working for MangaGamer. It's not like having a job in the industry changes your interests.

By the way, if you look very closely at the small text in this image, you'll notice that it's the introductory lines of Dies Irae.

>>13819091
If you zoom it even further, it says "Oiran Rouge".

>>13819082
/jp/ is more mainstream than I thought.

>>13819125
A lot of people think wrong things about /jp/, I've noticed.

I have been thinking of creation of +18 version of Steam, is it possible?

>>13819145
If you have to ask the answer is no.

>>13819156
I know it's not possible to totally revise Steam.

I'm talking about propping up sites like DLsite, make it a bit more professional looking like the Japan version or Steam, and basically serve as the digital eroge store.

>>13819097
And then you have to zoom in even further to see a miniature copy of this very thread

>>13819169
There are already similar services that allow adult content.

>>13819219
But not as widespread nor popular as Steam.

We need an "adult" Steam where everyone know to legally buy eroge.

This too would hopefully decrease the need of Steam bucks or all-ages releases.

>>13818948
There's no way Conjueror and Gare would hype Aoiro this much. I'm absolutely certain that the project they're working on isn't it.

>>13819218
I've maximum zoomed it and this is all I got.

How much longer until the announcements?

>>13819501
http://mangagamer.org/announcements/

>>13819504
That page looks quite good compared to their main page.

>>13818948
They haven't played it. If MG announces it, it's going to be Cafe who's translating.

Conjueror just posted a tl of the final part of Beatrice vs Eleonore: https://vnrw.wordpress.com/2015/07/24/translation-dies-irae-beatrice-vs-eleonore-part-iii/

If he were working on this, would he post his work right before the announcement? Makes me think that it won't be DI.

>>13819811
no shit

The secret club is falling apart. I hope they will never get to rail-soft and shumon stuff at least.
I never seriously thought this day would actually come.

>>13819842
lick out my boypussy you fucking faggot

>>13819861
Go read those PC98 masterpieces, I'm sure they won't get those.

>>13819496
Oh shit, Cross Channel confirmed.

I've just heard MangaGamer is coming to GOG. This is great, because GOG is great. CD Projekt is probably one of the best companies ever.

>>13819811
Uh, to give people a taste of what he's working on? I don't see how that disproves the DI theory.

>>13820352
Well, when you consider the hint text having nothing to do with DI and all of Doddler's tweets then there's really nothing to suggest that DI can even be considered a "theory."

>>13820310
That's actually really cool.

>>13820451
Some theories are complete nonsense yet still turn out to be true, like Gaia theory.

>>13820310

The hell did you "hear" that? I'm sure mangagamer would love to, but it's been GOG allowing them that's been the problem in the past.

>>13820553
Groupees chat. No idea what the source beyond that is but a number of people were talking about it like it had been confirmed so it might be true.

>>13820352
By posting partial translations, the only thing he's giving a taste of is his dick.

>>13820621
To be fair, this is one delicious dick.

>>13820621
Well, that and anybody who hasn't read Dies Irae is just getting a big taste of major spoilers by looking at the parts Conjueror translated.

>>13820621
Why would a person who hasn't read DI up until that point even care about the sisters in the first place?

In fact, why would anyone read a "partial translation" if they cared about spoilers. Anyhow, if anyone hasn't read DI yet and plans to in the future: don't Google it, don't visit message boards etc until you've finished it the first 3 routes at least. You will get spoiled.

>>13820692
They wouldn't, that's why I'm saying no EOPs want a taste of that shit.

>>13815564
That's roundabout. Written word is secondary. It's a mere tool to represent a spoken word. Thus, the proper order of translation is first to forget these >>13804779 characters exist, translate a spoken line into English, then represent it with written English using practices of written English. Furigana is not one of them.
>>13806559
>>13806674
The problem with these variants is that he doesn't speak about "justice", he only attributes the meaning to the word without anyone but himself and reader knowing it. You, on the other hand, put "justice" right into the speech.
>>13805777
>you could try to circumvent this using parenthesis "your madness (justice)"
That's no circumvention, that's the way to do it.
>but it would be confusing since you don't know why that's there
Using parenthesis within direct speech to denote something that is thought by speaker, but not spoken is not uncommon. The reader shouldn't be confused unless he is a retard and a Japanese retard would be as confused by original text as an English retard by translation.

>>13820800
What about >>13815843's idea? I still think that would look really neat. Justice could be all faded and stuff, like it's secret.

Better topic: how would you handle such a line in anime adaptation?

>>13820841
When you watch the episode, Masada personally comes to your house and whispers justice in your ear at the appropriate moment.

>>13820800
>The problem with these variants is that he doesn't speak about "justice", he only attributes the meaning to the word without anyone but himself and reader knowing it. You, on the other hand, put "justice" right into the speech.
Are you sure? Usually furigana denotes pronunciation, so it would be "justice" that he's saying, with "madness" as the extra unspoken meaning. What does the VA actually say there?

>>13802294
I'd almost say that Akatsuki Works had something alog these lines but after checking, it seems they don't.

>>13821024
Isn't Akatsuki Works tied up with Akabeisoft somehow?

I misjudged about VNTS2 making it to the announcements, apparently. Well, it probably would have, but I see we're being spammed by some idiot. What's worse, VNTS2 or literal spam? Quod erat demonstrandum.

>>13821140
Not anymore. Akabeisoft is a sinking ship that all of the actually successful brands are abandoning.

>>13822346
Someone created a new thread just for the Otakon announcements.

>>13820496

>>13822381
I know, I've made quite a few of the posts in it.

>>13822346
Why are you posting your grievances here? VNTS 2 is an abomination.

>If it's actually dies

>>13822444
Because this is technically one of my threads. Well, I didn't create it, though. But I created the meme, if you will. And I don't mean that in the internet meme sense, I mean memes as in pervasive ideas.

>>13822480
It's already been confirmed by several people who know what it is that it's not.

>>13822508
But man if it is..

>>13822508
I don't believe that any of them actually know what it is. They're just trying and failing to calm people down.

What's really annoying is that even once he gets his punishment this smug bastard will get to feel pleased with himself about having destroyed this place for a while. Being timely is important in stuff like this because the bad guys win if you let them have time. Like Ozymandias. Well, not that he was a bad guy, but you saw what he did with his time.

>>13822830
He didn't really destroy anything, though. None of my favorite threads have died, and we're still discussing stuff like this. It's just a minor disruption at best; nothing that one line in the filter won't fix.

>>13822877
I suppose not, but the longer the disruption goes, the less minor it will become. That's because people are realizing there's no janitor cleaning things up and are starting to post their own spam.

>>13822965
Ah, speak of the angel. We are saved.

>>13802294
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>no dies irae
lol

OP where are you?
Come here I will play with you.
But stop crying and wipe your tears first.

Chuunishits blown the fuck out

>>13824017
They're still getting two chuuni games. Just nothing they've ever heard of.

Don't worry OP, Dies Irae wasn't that good to begin with.

>>13802294
>>13823872
>>13824002
>Remember, it's still possible that it isn't Dies Irae after all so don't expect it with 100% certainty.
Anyone who was disappointed by no Dies Irae announcement simply didn't stop his wishful thinking.

>>13824023
I've heard of Tokyo Babel, you piece of fuck. Propeller is legendary in the chuuniverse. Just not on the same godlike tier as Light.

>>13824844
Yeah sure. I shudder to think about what other shit is "legendary" for chuuniges. Humor me, name a few others.

>>13824924
There is only one you need to know.

When you think about it, Dies Irae would be announced with much more fanfare anyway. Like, they wouldn't stick it at the end of a boring panel that's just a bunch of opening movies. They'd hype it up on its own. So, maybe next time.

Hey, at least there's the anime to look forward to.

Fun fact: Ayakashibito is actually rated higher on egs than Dies Irae.

>>13825145
I'm sure that won't be mediocre at all

>>13825683
If it's mediocre that will mean they improved upon the VN.

To be honest, I'm really in the mood for Yuri and thus was not let down that much by MG's announcement.

It's just not DI, Baldr, or anything earth shattering.

>>13825992
It's the only good release there. I'm kinda glad to see they partnered with propeller but sad to see they didn't get Bullet Butlers instead.

>>13825701
SAVAGE!

>>13825992
When you say "really in the mood for yuri," you realize we're probably be going to be waiting until next year for both of these games, right? So will you be able to stay in that mood for that long? Personally, I'm always in the mood for yuri, so it's not a problem for me, but perhaps you may have cause for concern.

I think it's probable that Flowers will be out quite a while before any of the other announced yuri titles, so that's the one I'm looking forward to reading first.

Just to double check, does Dies Irae have a fully voiced protagonist? And it's Kousuke Toriumi?

I ask because I don't always know if VNDB is accurate.

>>13826790
>does Dies Irae have a fully voiced protagonist?
Yes
>And it's Kousuke Toriumi?
No idea

>>13825701
Teach me how to be as cool as you are dude.

>>13828295
Shit, that reminds me. Reading Steiner said to look forward to news about C;H before the end of the month. So I wonder when that's going to come into play. I guess JAST probably still wants to do some announcements despite not being at Otakon.

>>13828295
It's easy, just graduate middle school.

>>13828658
You are so fucking cool man

You know what's really cool? Dies Irae.

>>13828658
burned lol

>>13825996

I actually wanted Tokyo Babel over Bullet Butlers. I don't really like the art style/designs of Bullet Butlers in comparison.

>>13826552

Well it's like specifically the Yuri action genre. Basically I've wanted to read something exactly like Pygmalion for a good while. So I'm pretty excited for it.

Flowers looks good too, but I really like the designs for Pygmalion.

>>13844238
That is good, but what I mean is, will you still be okay with waiting like a full year for it? Because they announced it way in advance.

Look. This is totally that character from Dies Irae. Dies Irae confirmed.

VS forum across all over internet will be in Shitstorm since Demonbane.lol