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“Definitely very cute.”
“This isn’t American AT ALL!”
“This was clearly drawn by a Japanese person.”
“Seems influenced by Japanese artists.”
“This is so cute! But it doesn’t seem like it was drawn by an American.”
“Doesn’t look American. Redraw it!”
“It seems really Japanese. Cute though.”
“Don’t be silly, this is definitely the Japanese edition!”
“What’s the big deal? Japanese people are free to draw in a more ‘American style’ so why not the other way round? It is kinda funny though…”
“I’m not convinced this is American-made…”
“Just because this is the American version, it doesn’t necessarily mean the artwork was drawn by an American, you know.”
“Kawaii and Moe have made it to America!”
“I’m not sure this kind of artwork will be all that popular in the US…”
“MOEEEEEEEEEE!”

Why are Japanese people so stubborn to believe that people outside of Japan can produce good things?

>> No.13704175

>>13704140
What the fuck are you talking about? And did you mean to write "can't" instead of "can"?

>> No.13704180
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13704180

A lot of those quotes aren't saying anything about the country of origin or that the illustration is poor quality. Who are you quoting anyway?

Also the artist for that version of Alice was Filipino.

>> No.13704181

>>13704175
People in Japan are pretty much in their own little world and out of touch with the rest of the world. So they don't know anything about what's going on in the rest of the world but they say "This isn't American, this is Japanese." Yeah, because this is totally the first kawaii and moe thing EVER. Bullshit.

>> No.13704184

>>13704180
The Philippines are in South America, so they're American. Learn some fucking geology.

>> No.13704192

>>13704184
Don't you mean ``geometry''?

>> No.13704231

>>13704180
I never thought Filipinos considered themselves asians until they told me. The first thing it comes to my brain is "they look Latin American", not "They look Asian"

>> No.13704257

>>13704192
NO, you ASS. Do you THINK I care about dead languages?

>> No.13704274

>>13704140
Can I get a link to the Filipinos Alice in wonderland book?

>> No.13704280

>>13704257
If you didn't you wouldn't be speaking one!

>> No.13704284
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>> No.13704289

>>13704280
You're a dead language. And by that I mean you're dead. In the "You're going down, bud." way. Not the sexual way, the one where you get killed.

>> No.13704301

>>13704289
I demand a last request before I die.

>> No.13704315

>>13704301
Only if it's some sort of sexual favor. I'm not good at anything else.

>> No.13704338
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>>13704315
Then you're not much good at anything, are you?

I want Alice to be the one that kills me. I'm certain her gentle, merciless hands will lead me to a most painful and prolonged death.

>> No.13704356

>>13704289
>Not the sexual way, the one where you get killed.
Why not combine the two?

>> No.13704361

>>13704180
This was made by a Filipino?

>>13704231
Are Filipinos welcome here?

>> No.13704364

http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=659210

>> No.13704406

>>13704338
>>13704356
Sounds like a sexual favor, so I can make it happen. I'm actually a succubus, you see.

>> No.13704450

>>13704361
I never said I hate Filipinos.
I just said I don't get the few ones that keep telling me they're basically Japanese.

>> No.13704453

>>13704361
R-represent!

>> No.13704489
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13704489

>>13704140
Because art now means some guy putting paint on his ass and shiting on a canvas

>> No.13704493

>>13704361
Uncle Mugen is always welcome here.

>> No.13704496
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>>13704489
Ignore the file name

>> No.13704498

>>13704361
Pinoys begone

>> No.13704582

Nah, what I hate most is when they stubbornly lock mods to Japan only. They have open access to anything we make but what they make should be exclusive to them only?

Besides the more open access mods are the larger the community and the more quality work for everyone can be expressed. Their belief in their own superiority only hurts themselves.

>> No.13704654

>>13704582
You can do the same to them though if you are that butthurt about it.

>> No.13704665

>>13704654
Because that will solve the issue.

>> No.13704705

>>13704450
Filis are Filis, Japs are Japs. Both are Asians due to being in Asia...

>>13704453
P-proud t-to be p-pinoy!

>> No.13704726

>>13704140
I have this book, it's cute as fuck.

>> No.13704752

>>13704705
epic stuttering dude

>> No.13704754

It is known that Filipino is world's most powerful race.

>> No.13704755

>>13704453
>>13704705
Talkin' 'bout my generation!

>> No.13704762

>>13704284
Why did someone make this image? Did they think all the threads about this were some kind of viral marketing or something? I think it's just because people found out it's the cutest thing ever and got really excited about it. I mean, you've got Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, which is already amazing, and then you give it an anime art style. It's pretty much the perfect combination.

>> No.13704787

>>13704762
Not if Alice doesn't experience Wonderland chikan.

>> No.13704828

>>13704489
>>13704496
Basically, yeah. The edgier your performance art is, the more hipsters it will draw. For example: some girl reciting poetry about how she was molested by the patriarchy while queefing out Spaghettios from her vagina and spreading them out all over the floor with her hands.

>> No.13704851

>>13704828
I remember that. I think the video was called "Interior Semiotics"? Somehow it was on YouTube. I linked it to someone I hated without even watching it because I knew it was going to be something wild, and it found its way to a friend of mine and he was like "You should have linked this to me" because I guess it was right up his alley. This was all years ago. I don't think we're friends anymore, but it has nothing to do with this video. It was because I made a joke about misophonia. I thought it was a bit of an overreaction, but I should probably try apologizing to him, if I can find a way to contact him.

>> No.13704852

Show me an artwork not influenced by japanese art a all done by someone from outside Japan that does not look like crap or "my style" bullshit.

>> No.13704914
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>>13704852

>> No.13704965

>>13704914
Perhaps I should have added that it was done in the last decade, but yes, this is good art.

Also, I notice the artist is a pedo. Not that there is anything wrong with that as long as it is look and don't touch.

>> No.13705012

>>13704914
Who is the artist of this?

>> No.13705065

>>13705012
Kriss Sison. A Flip.

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13705115

(๑╯ﻌ╰๑)=3

>> No.13705263

>>13705065
Not the OP, you goof. The painting.

>> No.13705274

Kriss Sison isn't even Filipino, he's German. The Filipino one is a completely different artist with the same name.

>> No.13705309
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13705309

>>13705274
He's Filipino, though.

pic related is his Deviantart. The name is Filipino for 'one spoonful of moe'.

http://isangkutsarangmoe.deviantart.com/

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>>13704965
>>13704852
Last decade. Couldn't find exact year, but one of the soldiers represents soldiers in the Iraq War (the 2000s one) so it can't be older than a decade.

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>>13705012
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William-Adolphe_Bouguereau

>>13704965
You can like drawing pictures of lolis without being a pedo, dude.

>> No.13705466

>>13705309
>http://isangkutsarangmoe.deviantart.com/
For a long time I thought Kriss Sison was some Filipino girl.

If it were, then a few /a/ dudes would go Ume all over her.

>> No.13705478

>>13704140
Where did you get these? Stinks like the typical shitkaku sensationalistic shitarticle.

>> No.13705677

>>13704140
I agree that this guy's works look very MOE indeed but for some reason it lack the feels or the essence or a true MOE artwork that only a true Nip can create.

>> No.13705688
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>>13705677
As far as moe goes, this one's the only one where I really felt it as much as I do when witnessing MOE.

>> No.13706021

>>13705478
You can get the source from reverse googling the OP image.
I'm not fond of linking or endorsing garbage though, so you'll have to do it yourself.

>> No.13707305

>>13705688
Probably because she is eating something, you fucking American.

>> No.13707477

>>13704140
Are you sure that's what they're saying? You might be taking those quotes out of context.

It seems more that weeaboos think everything made in Japan is better whereas Japanese don't necessarily think that. So when Japanese doubt this is American they just mean that it seems like a Japanese style.

“Kawaii and Moe have made it to America!”
“I’m not sure this kind of artwork will be all that popular in the US…”

See I think that's all they're saying. I told a Japanese girl that I like denpa once and she laughed her ass off simply as it was hard for her to imagine a "western man liking denpa" but she thought it was cool.

They probably appreciate American animation and comics for their difference. I think one thing weeaboos and Japanese share in common is many of both have a complex. Neither against either by the way, I use the term weeaboo ironically.

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>>13704140
American drawing

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aDATXtewPrg

>> No.13707538

>>13707536
You wouldn't see these kind of animation anymore man.

it's all about flash animation now.

>> No.13708076

>>13707477
>I told a Japanese girl that I like denpa once and she laughed her ass off simply as it was hard for her to imagine a "western man liking denpa" but she thought it was cool.

It really just sounds like casual racism to me. Some parts of the world are just years in the past.

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>>13704851
We all saw it dude. This isn't 1871.

>> No.13708086

>>13708076
Please don't do this shit here.

>> No.13708087

>>13707536
>pic
>2 buttons becomes 3 buttons
3spooky5me
also
>cab calloway whitefacing

>> No.13708090

>>13708087
Who ye quoting?

>> No.13708091

>>13708084
I haven't seen it.

>> No.13708098
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>>13708091
Okay.

>> No.13708105

>>13708090
It's called greentexting, get with the times grandpa.

>> No.13708114

>>13708091
You should. It's retarded, but a good example of the stupid noskill shit that gets passed off as legitamate art. I know strippers who would have done a much better job since they are people too.

>> No.13708162

>>13708086
What shit? Telling the truth? Yeah, I can see why /jp/ wouldn't be into that.

>> No.13708168

>>13708114
The thing is, by doing it first and getting praised for it, she came out as the victor. You could have been famous too.

>> No.13708181

>>13708162
Whining about stupid shit like racism and sexism in general.

>> No.13708199

>>13708181
Why are they stupid?

What makes them stupid?

How can they be stupid?

Do they lack intelligence?

How can they lack intelligence if they aren't individuals made out of matter?

>> No.13708229

>>13707305
>not blushing over the sight of lady-like eating

>> No.13708232
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>>13704140

>Lewis Carroll
>American

Fucking nips, when will they learn

>> No.13708234

>>13708199
Okay.

>> No.13708240

>>13708232
You can't blame them, it's not a very Filipino sounding name.

>> No.13708259

>>13708240
It's Brit, ya goof.

>> No.13708266

>>13708076

Kill yourself

>> No.13708271

>>13708259
This thread doesn't even have anything to do with Carroll, ya goof.

>> No.13708273

>>13708181
I don't see any problem with bringing up legitimate issues with society. You're probably a white male if you think otherwise. You know why people throw around the word "privileged"? Because that's exactly what you are. You're living the good life, looking down on the rest of us, and then you complain that we actually have a problem with that.

>> No.13708274

>>13708271
see>>13708232

Y-ya goof

>> No.13708275

>>13708271

Alice in Wonderland certainly has something to do with Caroll

>> No.13708277

>>13708271
>thread about Lewis Carroll's book
>has nothing to do with Lewis Carroll

Yeah okay.

>> No.13708282

>>13708275
>>13708277
Unless Carroll's recently been resurrected recently and has decided to redo the art for his books, no, he really doesn't have anything to do with this thread.

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>>13708273

kuso thread.

>> No.13708289

>>13708273
お願い、 don't be serious...

>> No.13708290

>>13708283
Don't feed it.

>> No.13708291

>>13708277

Who are you quoting?

>> No.13708298

>>13708289
I am completely serious, you fucking ニンジンケーキ.

>> No.13708457

>>13708290
Only on /jp/ would people dismiss someone talking about a serious problem with the world as "just trolling LOL!"

>> No.13708483

>>13708291
His mind

>> No.13708524

To be honest, there are only three countries that need to exist for my entertainment.

Russia, Japan and America.

Pillars of the World.

>> No.13708527

>>13704231
>I never thought Filipinos considered themselves asians until they told me.

Philippines is located in East Asia.

But they don't considered themselves "Asian" though.

>> No.13708571

>>13708527
Oh, how come?

I consider myself Asian (maybe that has to do with chink blood or something).

>> No.13708641

>>13708571
It's kinda like Italians considering themselves white.

>> No.13708677

>>13708641
But they ARE white (Caucasian, if you prefer that term)

>> No.13708686

>>13708677
Yeah. and Filipinos are asian *wink wink*

>> No.13708692

>>13708677
race is just a social construct

>> No.13708698

>>13708692
Language is just a social construct.

>> No.13708701

>>13708698
yes, and so the concepts of who is what race evolve from one generation to the next, just like language evolves

>> No.13708758
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>Filipinoland is in South-east Asia.
>South-east Asia
>ASIA
>Filipinos are not asian
What?

>> No.13708788

>>13708758
they are more culturally half spanish since the spaniards colonized them, roman catholicism, spanish first and last names, etc.

You don't see many vietnamese people practicing christianity nor do you see them take french surnames.

>> No.13708795

>>13708788
they're still asian is because of geography

not to mention all the chinese shit peppered into there culture

>> No.13708805

>>13704140

>that people outside of Japan can produce good things?

pretty sure they won't be surprised if the artwork was labeled as "from korea"

>> No.13708815

>>13708758
It's /int/ meme. Pretty sure there are lot of polandball comics making fun of them.
Speaking of SEA iirc A/Z manga artist is also an Indonesian.

>> No.13708823

>>13708805

ironic

>> No.13708845

>>13708457
A Japanese girl not realizing gaijins can appreciate denpa is not a "serious problem with the world".

>> No.13708849

>>13708845
>>13708457
It's a serious problem because how can someone like Denpa holy crap

>> No.13708884

>>13708845
Not on its own, but it's just one of many contributing factors to the decay of our society. The world is slowly devolving back into what it was in the old days. Hell, we never even made that much progress towards equality. And it's all because the privileged remain set in their decadence, satisfied to watch as the world goes down the shitter because they think it doesn't affect them. Soon they'll see just how wrong they are.

>> No.13708984

>>13708105
Who were you greentexting?

>> No.13709063
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>/jp/ thinks manga style art is secret japanese only skill

>> No.13709081

>>13709063
why do you lie anon?

>> No.13709129

>>13709063
Japan thinks a lot of things are only possible in Japan, that's the problem. "He MUST be Japanese!" is a common claim.

>> No.13709235

>>13709129
Is there a ruling xenophobia over Japanese (metropolitan) society? Or is it just inherent intentional ignorance evoked by Japan's (or even each person's) remoteness?

>> No.13709251

>>13709235
Both of them, probably.

>> No.13709492

>>13704140
>I’m not sure this kind of artwork will be all that popular in the US…”

It's funny how Japan is completely ignorant of weebs.

>> No.13709571

>>13709492
It's annoying how they are. And this isn't just your average Japanese plebs off the street, this is people like us saying this. The otaku. They SHOULD be informed about what's going on in the rest of the world. We are. So what the fuck?

>> No.13709579
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13709579

If it's drawn in "their" style, of course they would first think that a Japanese person drew it. Just like if a drawing is more Westernized, you'd think a Westerner drew it.

>> No.13709611

The artist is Kriss Sison and he's from the Philippines.

This is his pixiv: http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=2858681

>> No.13709638

>>13709571
> this is people like us saying this
Well that's the problem. Have you ever seen what people actually believe here??
In any case there are probably as many normal comments in the thread or whatever was referenced in the op or even more. They just choose the negative ones to have an article. It's shitty yellow journalism ala shitkaku.

>> No.13709811

https://twitter.com/kasunoko/status/542594152844632064

This is where they copypasta the comments from.

>> No.13710761

>>13708229
Who ya quote?

>> No.13710963

>>13709235
Isn't xenophobia often a consequence of ignorance?

>> No.13711579

>>13709638
It's actually RocketNews24, which is a lot less scummy than Kotaku and Polygon.

>> No.13711590

>>13708229
>lady-like

This is how you're supposed to eat. You hold your hand below the food so that crumbs don't drop on your clothes/the ground. Even I eat my food like this. Are you saying you don't?

>> No.13711641

Alice is so fucking hot. The Disney version is a top tier western bishoujo character.

Actually, there are a lot of fucking hot Disney bitches like Alice, Ariel, Tink, Wendy, and Jane.

>> No.13711643

>>13711590
I hold a plate or lid down underneath.

>> No.13711645

>>13710761
>Who ya quote?
Why is your autism raging?

>> No.13711667

>>13711590
Yeah, that's ladylike. Not holding out your hand and omnomnoming your food with your face a la japanese schoolgirl isn't.

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>>13711641

>> No.13712002

>>13711643
Sometimes you don't have a plate available. It's also helpful when you're sitting down and moving the food from the plate to your mouth.

>>13711667
I've seen Japanese schoolgirls do this too though. It's more like there are sloppy people and people who know what they're doing, just like with everything else in life.

>> No.13712142

It just suprises me because I've seen so many western artists that can produce even finer art in the same style.

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>>13711819
All the posts of the original print art is no good.
A few had Lewis's original drawn art, which wasn't figured good enough for the first print of the book
Dodgson-art has it's own charm

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>>13704274
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1626920613

>> No.13712414

>>13712142
I'm curious, care to share some examples?

Only thing I'm against western artists is that they don't do lewd contents.

>> No.13712439

>>13708884

>The world is slowly devolving back into what it was in the old days

No it's not. Even if it were, that would be a good thing.

>> No.13712448

>>13712439
All the animals come out at night - whores, skunk pussies, buggers, queens, fairies, dopers, junkies, sick, venal. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets. I go all over. I take people to the Bronx, Brooklyn, I take 'em to Harlem. I don't care. Don't make no difference to me. It does to some. Some won't even take spooks. Don't make no difference to me.

>> No.13712450

>>13712439
Please don't feed da troll.

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>>13712450

I just can't help it.

>> No.13712466

>>13712414
>they don't do lewd contents

Haha, what? Since when? You must have some settings turned off or something so it's only giving you the safe stuff. Although that stuff is cuter anyway, which is what should be important to you. You don't need to be lewd to be cute. Though there is cute lewdness, but still.

>> No.13712471

>>13712466
I like my lewdness thank you.

Cute is for boys, lewd is for men, and it's a study of anatomy, sometimes good artists can't draw nipples or dicks worth a shit.

And you haven't given any example.

>> No.13712480

>>13712439
You don't understand. It's all the bad parts of those days and none of the good. This is NOT something to look forward to, this is something you should be seriously worried about.

I think it's laughable that people's only defense to this is to INSIST that I must be trolling, simply because I can actually see what's going on in the world. You crack all your jokes about "checking your privilege" but have you ever actually considered what it means? I doubt it. And that's exactly why there's a point to it. You don't realize just how privileged you actually are. You won't realize it until it's finally taken away. And by that time, you'll be wishing you were dead. But you won't be able to do anything about it. And you know why? Because you don't have the privilege to.

>> No.13712483

>>13712471
I'm not the first guy you were talking to so I'm not obligated to provide any examples. Wait on his response, I'm going to go enjoy American cute lewdness privately.

>> No.13712486

>>13712483
Well, good for you.

>> No.13712488

>>13712486
Very good, yes. Hell, I've gotten erect just from talking to you. I'm not sure I need it anymore.

>> No.13712493

>>13712488
Nice, nice. Been in constant erection is the /jp/sie's creed.

>> No.13712511

>>13712483
>implying americans can make cute lewd

>> No.13712521

>>13704140

I dunno.

Because they are smalldick faggots who constantly see white guys go into Japan and basically fuck whoever they want?

Because Japan is an oligarchy isolated from the world, which intentionally chooses to make sure that English is not effectively taught, so that, the ruling elite can remain ruling, and that Japan can remain isolated?

Like, you're so low level in geopolitics, economics, just like anything.... just fucking sit at the kids table and fill in the drawings with crayon. Don't even try asking questions yet.

>> No.13712526

>>13712521
s-shit thread

>> No.13712529

>>13712511
Who are you quoting?
>>13712521
Please don't be butthurt.

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>>13712214
There's something faintly disturbing about those proportions, can't put my finger on what it is though

>> No.13712553

>>13712526
What does this meme even mean? People dismiss a whole thread as shit because of one post in it? I don't get it.

>> No.13712558

>>13712521
This isn't even true. English is taught in pretty much every country except America, where it's ingrained from birth. Problem is, Americans are so damn cocky they don't teach any other languages. So everyone's got multiple languages in their repertoire but America. It is not unlike North Korea.

>> No.13712572

>>13712558
North Korea teaches English in the bureaucracy feeder schools, actually.

>> No.13712583

I just found about about something called gfd, sounds pretty good. I recommend it if you like girls as much as I do.

>> No.13712596
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>>13705309
Artists becoming progressively better is my fetish. It happens 100% of the time if they are trying but they always delete their old artwork because it looks so bad.

See http://isangkutsarangmoe.deviantart.com/art/Yagami-Light-169497552

Vs pic related.

>> No.13712601

>>13712596
That's why it's important to save all the bad artwork you find so you'll have it when they get better and delete it. And then you can be like "SUCK ON THIS" and whip it out. Then later you can show them their old artwork.

>> No.13712602

>>13712596
No lewd as usual.

But I do agree that his art is pretty good.

>> No.13712603

>>13712553
It means this is a kuso sure.

>> No.13712606
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>>13709063

>Step 1
>Step 2

>> No.13712608

>>13712603
Why would sure be short for thread? That just looks like sure as in yeah sure. Which is fitting, because I'm feeling pretty skeptical about your claim.

>> No.13712611

>>13712608
Honto no kuso sure da.

>> No.13712636

>>13712611
Now you're just speaking nonsense.

>> No.13712659

Why does Japan put yuri in so much anime and manga and stuff stuff if they hate homosexuals?

>> No.13712664

>>13704140
I wouldn't say western artists are bad but rather they are filled with retards who never evolve past the ms paint scene.

>>13712601
The one flaw in your plan is 99% of internet artists never get better.

>> No.13712679

>>13712659
having a teenage lesbian phase is seen as normal, but doing anything else that isn't marrying ASAP is frowned upon.

>> No.13712680

>>13712608
>Why would sure be short for thread?

スレッド, silly.

>> No.13712688

>>13712679

It's funny because that's how lots of western cultures were in antiquity. Rome and Greece were the same way about homosexuality, totally acceptable when you're young but when you get older you best get married and make babies for you done fucked up.

>> No.13712752

>>13712679
What about marrying another girl ASAP? And how come a lot of the time it is clearly not a phase and they are destined to love each other forever?

>> No.13712758

>>13712664
>The one flaw in your plan is 99% of internet artists never get better.

True, but you can't take any risks. Save every picture and just don't let anyone find out you have badly drawn Shrek x Shadow the Hedgehog art stored on your computer.

>> No.13712760

>>13712680
What the fuck language is that chicken scratch supposed to be?

>> No.13712763

>>13712752
Same sex marriage is illegal in Japan. You can get the same legal rights with a roundabout method though. Lesbians can't get IVF and companies are allowed to discriminate against homosexuals when hiring people if they want.

Yuri works generally don't cover societal pressure for the same reason that all the high-school shows generally gloss over the years of cram-school and crushing expectations.

>> No.13712774

>>13712760
There's ethnocentricity and racism so deeply embedded in Japanese thought that they need an entirely new alphabet to say inherently-foreign words and concepts. As a result of its purpose, the aesthetic of katakana is shitty chicken scratch.

The more recent popularity in using foreign words (especially ones the writer or speaker is unfamiliar with) is the product of a rebellious counter-culture.

Ever wonder why engrish on japanese clothing makes you cringe?
It is motivated by the same thing as the fedora-wearing social rejects in the trenchcoat on the subway back at home.

engrish = neckbeards same same

>> No.13712790

>>13712680
That says sled, you jackass.

>> No.13713127

>>13705309
Kriss Sison is shit though. The only good filipino artist on DA is Demitasse-lover even though i need to admit she's a full blown fujo.

>> No.13713154

>>13713127
Nothing wrong with being a fujo. I find they're generally some of the happiest people on the planet. Perhaps we could all stand to learn something from them, and become happy ourselves.

>> No.13713345

>>13704140

http://www.rankbank.net/amaran/history/?date=15070101&cat=foreignbooks&asin=1626920613

Still amongst top sellers on Amazon.

>> No.13713533

>>13712774
This is the most wrong post I've seen in a long time.
This is why threads like this need to be deleted on-sight. It makes people like you stick around and shit up the rest of the place.

>> No.13713620

>>13704140
I would say it's made by Japanese too. Girl lacks nose, everything loosk like comic from Japan.
Or at least it's influenced by style widely used in Japan.

>> No.13713642

I hope most of you are trolling because the alternative is that you're all genuinely retarded.

>> No.13713676
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>>13704184
Excuse me, what?

>> No.13713680

>>13713676
what could possibly compel you to respond to that five hours after it was posted

did you really think you were the first person to realize this

>> No.13713704

>>13711667
>ladylike
what century is this you dumb atheist nigger

>> No.13713742

>>13713704
It's the age of metrosexual genderfluidness, of course. No wonder it triggered you.

>> No.13713744

>>13713742
MORE HOTPOCKETS

>> No.13714335

>>13704231

Malays are Asian. Flips are originally Malays, but got some Spic, Chink, Nip, and Burger blood mixed in due to colonization, trading, etc.

Flips more closely resemble SEAsians than Mexicans though.

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>>13713704
Not him, but I like women (and men) who know how to conduct themselves.
It's a really pretty/handsome trait.
And please, don't use words like "nigger" around here. It is not an easy word.

>> No.13715993

>>13713680
>five hours
>FIVE HOURS

You just embarrassed yourself a lot more than he did.

>> No.13716070

>>13715993
57 hours is much like 5 hours, but with an 7

>> No.13716202

>>13716070
You're much like an intelligent person, but without any intelligence.

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>>13704140
Old 60's drawings where pretty good

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>>13712596
>Artists becoming progressively better is my fetish
Mine too.

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>>13713704
What, you don't like ladylike traits?

Sorry for triggering you by belittling your (reasonably belittled) uncultured slut preferences between the lines.

>> No.13716946

>>13716693
Mine is macrophilia.

>> No.13717111

>>13704181
To be honest, even when a western artist tries to draw something in anime style, you can still tell it was made by a western artist. This is like the first commercial release of such a thing where the art is this high caliber and consistent for all those endless illustrations.

>> No.13717192

>>13717111
It's the same for telling if something was done by Chinese or Russians too. It's something about the kind of styles they use. I think it lies in putting the particular cultural influence on the drawings. A though like "I like anime but I dislike Ψ about anime styles", and then they try to fix Ψ to their tastes. If they could just accept it and draw in incorrect, broken ways without caring like "anime style" they could replicate Japanese works.

>> No.13717229

>>13717192


What? Isn't that Poseidon's trident?

>> No.13717233
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13717233

NON-JAPANESE ARE WORSE THAN JAPANESE IN EVERY POSSIBLE FACET

>> No.13717265

>>13717229
Isn't it that Korean singer?

>> No.13717343

>>13717265
No, that's μ's, the idol group from Love Live.

>> No.13717403

>>13717233
Like being irradiated

>> No.13717418

>>13712596
>that waist-hip ratio
Disgusting.

>> No.13717424

The funny thing about the "He must be Japanese" when it comes to artists drawing anime style is that they are most often non-Japanese Asians and not actually white people.

White people cannot into anme.

>> No.13717473

>>13717424
They said this about KirbyM too though, and he's as white as they come.

Funny thing in that case is that it wasn't even because of his art, which obviously isn't all that. It was his knowledge of Touhou that apparently meant he MUST be Japanese. Japan just has this kind of, you know.

>> No.13717512

>>13712558
Please stop speaking out of your ass. Foreign languages ARE taught, is a required course but it's mostly Spanish, French, or German. French and German fluency gets lost because there is nobody to talk to. Spanish is a little better but unless you're around other beaners who know English too so you can ask them questions, fluency gets lost there too.

>> No.13717533

>>13704140
ha even Da hootch is 100% american

>> No.13717728

>>13717533
What the hell is "Da hootch"?

>> No.13717861

ITT: burgerfats who have no clue what they're talking about and blowing things out of proportion from a handful of kuso 2ch threads

>> No.13717898

>>13717728
A smut monger who is capable of doing only 2 kind of stories:

- Bitch hore swine sluts.
- Cripple love making with tender feelings.

>> No.13720332

>>13717898
That sounds like American lewd then. Got a link?

>>13717861
It's Twitter, you ass.

>> No.13720522

>>13720332
>It's Twitter, you ass.

That's actually even worse.

>> No.13720557

>>13720332
Basically American hentai artist. NSFW.
http://pururin.com/browse/694/10/da-hootch.html

>> No.13720702

>>13720557
This looks pretty competent. Where's the idiot that was saying westerners can't do lewd?

>> No.13720709

>>13720557
ShindoL has been living in Japan, though I think. He's also ethnically Japanese (Japanese-American) iirc.

>> No.13720712

>>13720702
Me here.

I'm speaking in general, most western artists (with attractive looking arts) don't do lewd.

>> No.13720822

>>13720712
You should have been clearer in the first place, your post had given the impression you were simply looking for examples. Well, in the end, the fact that there are examples is what matters, I suppose. As long as there's something, it's something, you know?

>> No.13720827

>>13720709
ShindoL is pretty popular in Japan. One of the characters in Ore Twintails is even named after him.

>> No.13720846

>>13720822
I hardly even consider ShindoL a western dude.

He's ethnic japanese now with a japanese nationality.

He only starts drawing commercial lewd when he gets to Japan as well.

>> No.13720900

japs have shit-taste in non popular girls, whats the problem if I have to relay on western artists to fullfill my desires

>> No.13720905

>>13720900
Err...You can fap to whatever you want.

>> No.13720922

>>13720846

Are Japs inherently better at drawing doujin? It must be genetic.

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>>13717229
Yep, that means you're his Broseidon, Cue gay shit; now that the World Court of Freedom has legalized it, it's mandatory for everybody.
Congratulations, Lebrodudeski!

>> No.13720938

>>13720922
IMO, they just draw more and get better at times.

>> No.13720945

>>13720827
>ShindoL is pretty popular in Japan
Yep. Popular enough to have done a Comiket bag that only he could do, I think.

>>13720846
For all intents and purposes you can't even tell. I think the only thing he picked up from living in America is a realism to his drugs (go figure).

>> No.13720949

>>13720945
IMO, his slut stuff is pretty amusing, but it's pretty similar to the kind you find in jap national doujin, like Alice no something something.

I'm glad the guy doesn't lose to western sensibilities.

>> No.13720959

>>13720949
>it's pretty similar to the kind you find in jap national doujin, like Alice no something something.
It tends to be a little more involved, but yeah, it's pretty typical slut eromanga stuff. I'm just glad he doesn't do that dumb MAGICAL APHRODISIAC INJECTION drug stuff. On the other hand it makes it a little more depressing.

Alice no Takarabako puts out incredibly one-dimensional stuff, but whatever. It's erotic in that way.

>> No.13720961

>>13720959
The stuff Alice puts out (that I read) usually has to do with comform women in mind, so it's not really one-dimensional.

>> No.13720963

>>13720961
Oh, huh. I must be reading the opposite stuff. Sometimes you see a little resistance, but I've mostly just seen hyper ultra-sluts. I don't complain because I actually really like that kind of stuff.

>> No.13721011

>>13720900
True, this is a big appeal of non-Japanese stuff. You can get all the girls that Japan ignores.

>> No.13721013

>>13720963
It's not about resistance, it's about girls who choose to be sluts.

Just read his 3 parts Touhou doujin about how the girls adapt to the real world.

>> No.13721447

>>13708701
Just like how there's a spectrum between yellow and orange, red and pink, or black and white. Where one person may say a color is pink, another may consider it red. That does NOT mean, however, that yellow and orange or black and white have no basis in objective reality. While they may be collectively defined by humans, race likewise has an existence in objective reality via DNA and corresponding phenotype. Social construct != fake, or false.

>> No.13721475

>>13704140
what i remember there's official Aldnoah zero manga is made by indonesian

>> No.13724006

>>13721475
Aldnoah Zero isn't good, so that doesn't count. It's like making a Chinese knockoff of a Chinese knockoff.

>> No.13724266

>>13724006
im glad even in /jp/ A/Z is loathed

>> No.13724405

>>13724266
Even idiots on MAL and shit can see it's flawed, not too surprising. The truer test of someone's intelligence is whether they can see how good Argevollen is or if they just call it "generic." People love throwing around generic even when it doesn't actually apply.

>> No.13725891

>>13704140
Tbh if you look at some of the facial aspects i (think) you can tell its not done by a japanese (??). Ive just never seen a zipperhead draw a face like that.

>> No.13726192

>>13725891
What the hell does "zipperhead" mean?

>> No.13726249

>>13726192
>>13726192
fuck off gook fucker maybe you should open your fucking eyes so you can see what it means

>> No.13727956

>>13726249
That is rude.

>> No.13728861

You are a bureimono.

>> No.13729829

>>13704140
>>13705688

This reminds me of Namori.

Maybe just because she is a blonde girl with a ribbon.

>> No.13729920

>>13729829
I've heard some rumors that this guy actually IS Namori, just like how Bomber Grape is the DLHSB guy. He won't actually admit to it, though.

>> No.13730144

>>13729920

Namori is a girl, though.

>> No.13731695

>>13730144
Because people totally can't lie about their genders.

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