/jp/ - Otaku Culture

First for l'epic cuck

>>13663834
>first
back to /vg/ please

>>13664068
むしすれば？

>>13664082
漢字で書けば？

>>13664092
どうして、かんじでかかなければよめないか

>>13663742
That interface is nice. What game?

>>13664220
https://vndb.org/v16352

>>13664277
Thanks.

>>13664277
>spoonfeeding

Any moege that start with the protagonist already in a relationship?

Any good VN that talk more about the 'daily life' side of gender bender?
Every time I pick a new one it's either nukige-tier "Oh no, I guess being a girl means I must consume ALL THE COCK" or it's really stupid in its execution.

I wouldn't even care if it was a nukige, but I'm really itching for a VN that actually feels like someone turned into a girl and slowly learned how to enjoy pretty dresses and living like that, instead of being a trite doujinshi cliche salad.

I tried vndb, but I tried VNs already, and so far even the non-nukige ones have been quite bad.
Anyone have anything good to reccomend?

I have already played the whole X-Change series, most recently X Change Alternative2-キミノヒトミニウツルキミ-, as well as the most 'popular' ones, so I'm more looking for hidden gems.

>>13664563
I don't think there are that many. Games about fetishes are usually nukige, after all. It's the same thing with pretty much all fetish material in general so you'll have to deal with what you have. You may be able to find some doujin works on DL site, but don't expect AAA quality.

>>13664592
Unfortunately, doujin works seem to be even worse in that aspect, barely having any narration between sex scenes.
I guess X-Change Alt 2 has spoiled me, it had the perfect amount of 'getting used to life' and actual good VN-tier narration between H-scenes, so now I'm struggling to enjoy other works when they're so obviously inferior.

>>13664592
I'll never have a satisfying eroge that deals with the insane amount of trust and affection that can go into BSDM between two people who love each other and how it can be used to build and develop a relationship ;_;

At least there's a manga.

>>13664609
I know exactly what you mean.

>>13664609
>>13664612
Yeah, I've personally brooded about this before as well.
Since I've seen what NanaKao can do without even being explicit most of the time there truly is some good potential there for an eroge. It's a shame.

>>13664609
That'd involve depicting sex as an actual important facet of a relationship, and eroge developers apparently can't deal with that. An H scene can only be the prize once you finish a route.

>>13664592
There will never be a decent VN about the friendship between a newly turned into a girl teenager and his, now her, girl friends who will teach her all that's needed about being a girl, with alternative routes of either recognizing that even as a girl you want to be together with one of those friends, becoming closer than you could ever be as man and woman in a relationship of pure love, or realizing your new girly heart beats for your previously best friend, now love interest ;__;

>>13664649
Yuri in genderbender is a waste of time.

Damn.
I'm stuck at this guy.
I came close to killing it once because I managed to stun him but I tried 2 more times and stun didn't work (with both mushi girl and shuriken girl).

Any tips?
Can't time out or 撤退.

>>13664652
That's some opinion you got there

Bah, since I've never been in a relationship, I can't tell much about these wishes.

I just want more military-slice-of-life VN, I think the last one was Brayvon Veda but it was more scifi than straight out military.

>>13664689
I mean, no need to put the cart before the horse. I want more good VNs in general.

>>13664692
I believe as long as visual novels are still made, something good will come out.

Still, I'm a military nut so I can't help but wishing for more of stuff I obsess over.

>>13664701
>I believe as long as visual novels are still made, something good will come out.
If I keep shitting it's not going to suddenly come out as gold.

>>13664712
Well, visual novel has a large amount of producers, and some of doujin circles, so it's not just the same guy shitting every times.

Sometimes quality shit will come out.

Sorcery Jokers trial is out.

>>13664712
That's not a fair or accurate analogy.

>>13664757
So is fairytale requiem's.

>>13664563
Why not just read homo eroge?
It's the next logical step up from your gateway "gender bender" fetish.

>>13664826
I think a girl and guy fucking is radically different from two men fucking.

>>13664826
You'll notice my problem with those VNs isn't "I want more cock", rather "There is way too much cock", so your argument may be a little fallacious.

Or fellaceous, while we're at it.

>>13663742
>What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You how it goes.
>You how it goes.
Please fix this in the next thread, it bothers my autism.

T_T

>>13664884
The Drill has long been forgotten after the influx of new blood and the pointless OP changing wars.
It used to bother me too but making a big deal out of it just makes me feel as petty and low-level as the same people that started changing it so I've learned to just take it easy.

>>13664897
Or maybe you just wanted good grammar.
Guess I'm miffed about it by myself.

>>13664904
Isn't it more or less なんでもない?

>>13664886
;(

>>13664653
managed it if anyone cares.
カロリア's 毒針 has quite a good stun chance.

>>13664914
Why are you typing in Japanese when you don't understand the language?

>>13665016
How many times are you gonna get baited?

>>13665024
Probably samefagging since people aren't falling as often anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYWXHJhTdDY

Now that Sakura no Uta is almost confirmed to be delayed, guess I'll give Fairytale Requiem the priority next month.

If you look closely, the only difference between the 店頭用先行 version of the Sakura no Uta OP and the version released by Makurasoft on May 29th is that the latter has a slowed down framerate on the sakura petals instead of a smooth motion.

Turns out this ISN'T by the same people who made nanairo reincarnation, unfortunately. UNHYPE! At least the art is still really good.

>>13665125
Even with just the trial, it's really hard to think it's the same people anyway, it gives quite supernatural horror/mystery vibes.
It looks more interesting than nanarin at first glance though, but maybe it's because I like the 'little, isolated hotel in the mountains' setting.

>>13665125
Forgot my picture.

>>13665125
I'm playing it for this MILF

>>13665149
Really?

Does anyone know what 2 CG's I'm missing here in Kodachi's route in Daitoshokan? I'm pretty sure I did everything.

>>13665149
Too young

>>13664987
Stunning is the way to beat almost every difficult battle in the game, even Gunagan.

>>13665815
I don't think it's actually possible to beat the true final boss without stunning that character almost every turn

>>13665904
Yeah, as great a game as Rance VI is, the battle system isn't terribly nuanced.

Talking about final battle in the Rance series, what are you guys favorites?
I'd say Amu is the best final boss in the series, the final of 3 was pretty badass too

>>13666132
Poor Misuzu.

>>13664851
You might have more luck in yuri VN then.

A lot of genderbender stuff is about fantasized of getting fucks/raped.

>>13665943
I only remember the one from 9.
The fight itself wasn't that great and was pretty tedious without any real challenge, but the actual climax of the story was pretty good despite that.

>>13666196
That sounds gay.

>>13665372
It's been a while since I played it, but I think both are near the end-ish. The first I think is when Kodachi realizes who Kakei is and the second is when Kodachi helps Kakei sneak into the library world.

>>13664886
Kotorin ;_;

>>13666611
:)

>>13666510
IIRC the hugging one is when Kakei confessed to Nagi. How do you even missed that one? It's all linear after the route branch.

>>13666933
>>13666510

Now that's weird, I saw both of those scenes, yeah, I don't think you can even miss them. But for some reason the CGs didn't unlock.

Does anyone have an archive of eroge events for streaming? I get so lazy sometimes I don't even want to get up and start and eroge just to rub one out.
http://video.fc2.com/en/a/member.php?kobj_mb_id=67934049
This is all I could find and it seems they're all from demos.

>>13667070
I guess you could just download savedata from repositories online.
If that's too much work I have no idea. Might want to watch some actual eroanime or something.

http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=860229

"Summer 2015" apparently means November for Nitroplus.

>>13667295
>ある日の任務中、早雲は激しい戦闘の末に、ひとりの少女と出会う。
>宝形イリア という名前以外の記憶をすべて失っている彼女は、謎のネクロマンサー集団に身柄を狙われていた。

Kinda generic setup.

Anyone here managed to get the Fiary requiem trial?
If so can you please upload it on mega or something?

>>13667597
Sure. It might take a while, but I'll start uploading now.

>>13667597
https://mega.co.nz/#!PkRwEARa!2VZ7j-PSG2_PjZ82BVjUGPdwaMibysdDfQ_IMRVzaT0

>>13667655
thanks.
Appreciate it.

Is there something special I need to play Favorite games? I got this same error when I tried to play Irodori and thought I just downloaded a bad file or something but I'm getting it again.

>>13667767
If I remember correctly, it might have to do with the date format or something.

>>13667773
You mean changing my system time to Japanese or something?

>>13667773
I tried changing my system time to Japanese if that's what you were referring to and I'm still getting the same error. Any other tips?

>>13667787
Not the time itself, just the time format.

>>13667790
In other words, not changing the time zone, but making the clock 24 hours or changing the date to year-month-day? I tried those out just now but it didn't seem to help. Or am I missing something obvious? What did you mean by format? Thanks for helping by the way.

>>13667822
control panel > region and language > formats
set that to japanese

>>13667828
Ahhh, shit. I already had everything else set to Japan but missed the format option. Alright, thanks, it works now. I've been looking forward to getting around to this game for a while, the heroines look fun and I don't hate the art.

Amakano was the best game for playing at winter, I'm really glad that they'll make another one for next winter too. If I like heroine design I might even buy this one.

>>13668010
Also their second game which'll be released at october seems great too, I'll play it just for this heroine (yes she is a heroine, not side character).

>>13668010
The Royal Garden designs look kind of strange, but I really enjoyed Amakano too so yeah, let's hope for the best.

>>13667295
>下倉バイオ
I'll pass.

>>13668275
love this epic maymay^)

>>13668293
It's not a meme to dislike people who write like a 13-year-old.

There's a new trial for neyuki no genei , this one has choices and got the first bad end 10 minutes in, it was hilarious anyway.

>>13667506
At least it's not the protagonist who lost his memory

Want to try and get into VN/eroge. So far played only Tojita Sekai no Tori Colony (and F/SN).
How is Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythm if any of you played it? Don't want something TOO heavily focused on ero.

>>13668636
Dropped it 15 minutes in and never looked back. Unbearably bad voice acting from every heroine (except Fukuen) and the teacher.

>>13668665
Don't listen to this guy.

>>13668636
Kind of boring in my opinion, but whether it'll bore you to death or you enjoy it depends on your tastes.

Most eroge that are not nukige (porn games) aren't that sex heavy. 3 scenes/heroine tends to be average. Just pick something that you find interesting and give it a shot and after a while you'll learn to what kind of games you like and what you don't.

>>13668636
Parts of it were good, but it was pretty terrible overall.

Where do you guys usually get your VN?

>>13668738
Amazon.co.jp
DLsite

>>13668738
chinks

>>13668738
japan

>>13668738
Getchu or DLsite if I actually want to buy stuff.
Mostly torrents though.

>>13668761
Is there a specific torrent site that has a lot of VNs or is it usually just scattered around?

>>13668769
I dunno, maybe...

>>13668746
I know Amazon jp doesn't ship 18+ stuff overseas (resulting in proxy usage), but what about DLsite?

>>13668772
DLsite works unless your credit card company/bank decides to be annoying.

>>13668769
Epic....

>>13668785
Just realized how stupid that question was lol.

Loli rivalry?

>>13668869
I side with migi since her expression is more moe.

How often do I have to beat that fucking Ninja fag in Seinarukana. Jeez.

Definitely hyped for it.
The trial was good, MC is super fun to read and his chemistry his girlfriend is pretty good and so is with the rest of the cast.
The story seems to be way darker than I expected though investigating the death of Kaho's friend three years ago which is rumored to be a double suicide with one of her 'clients' as she was paying her studies with her body.
There's also the owner of the inn, Touko, who services clients for free and asks Shigeaki to fuck her for the key to the dead friend's room. It's either fucking her or fucking your girlfriend for the first time, which seems to be an actual route since it doesn't lead to a bad end despite not investigating anything.
Also the daughter kind of gives service too but doesn't go to the end and the uniform girl who is probably fucking some old fart for money the night the trial lasted.
Left at a pretty interesting point too, the only thing bothering me right now is the nose placement, fucking terrible half of the time.

>>13669393

Currently going through Miyako's side story in Oretsuba Prelude. It's been a good time since I felt so engaged in a story and its characters. I didn't pay much attention to the hype but turns out all the praise is true; The writing makes everyday conversations and situations much more colorful and interesting than they would be in the hands of someone else. The MC's narrations are really detailed but in a way that shows a lot about their personalities and their way of looking at their surroundings; while different and longer than usual (for moege), it's a pleasure to read through. Taking in account only the events of the game, it shouldn't be anything special, just your regular high school SoL, yet the writing makes it incredibly entertaining (and quite funny sometimes too). If the main game keeps up these points then it certainly may end up being one of my favorite titles.

Would I miss anything if I just jump into Tsuyokiss 3gakki Full Edition after playing 2gakki's common route? I'm at the middle of Otome route and I can understand why did this shit got 56 at EGS, Its so bad that I cant believe they actually sold this. But if I really have to play for 3gakki FE, I guess I'll bear with it.

>>13670046
I find it amusing that your accompanying screenshot showed none of the writing you were praising.

>>13670046
I feel the same way about Air. Something about the writing makes it so much more enjoyable than the last few "SOL" games I've played. To put it briefly, I'm actually laughing at the jokes, and I'm actually considering the characters as people, rather than... characters.

>>13670116
Judging the writing of a VN by one or two passages isn't a good idea, though. Plus I just saved the parts I liked into a txt and screencapped cute CGs with silly text.

>>13670095
Yeah, go ahead. You don't have to play 2 at all.

It's been nice to be both a fan of galge and astronomy these last years. Hopefully this is as nice as Haretaka, since it's led by the Konosora team I'm hoping it's at least decent enough to be worth finishing.

http://www.pulltop.com/full-of-stars/

https://youtu.be/Hu2OTy8WlC0

>>13664886
What vn is this?

>>13671304
The name's on the top.

>>13671328
You might as well have typed it out for him, asshole.
終了ウインドウ　メッセージ環境設定

>>13671338
I'm gomennasai.

>>13671304
Why do you care? It's not like you can read it.

EOP scum.

What does /jp/ think of fuwanovel?

>>13663742
sorry for djt-tier post, but why is she using kimi and not anata?

>>13671384
I don't. Unless something has changed, it only deals with translations, so it's irrelevant to this thread.

>>13671416
Its also Clephas' home.

>>13671430
is clephas better than moogy?

>>13671433
It doesn't take much to be better than moogy

>>13671430
Literally who?

>>13671433
"Better" implies some criterions over which you compare objects, and you didn't specify them.

Clephas is notorious for reading hundreds of vns yet still not being able to read even kana without hooker (he has his hooker set to show romaji for kana) and recently he claimed that no matter how good you know japanese, its impossible to read VN without tools and reading LNs is a myth.

>>13671430
>>13671433
I'd ask why you keep mentioning those people as if they mean anything, but I know I'll get a silly answer, so I won't.

>>13671459
They are opinion makers of western "raw japanese vns" fanbase, you can hate them as much as you want, but its pointless trying to deny that their opinions are echoed all around.

Anyone know good charage when at least one of of the heroine is interested in man other than MC? I need competition.

>>13671588
Try himawari to koi no kioku?

>>13670454
Thank you, But now I have another question: Should I read 3gakki or 3gakki FE? I thought that FE is the extended version, but seems like there are 3-4 routes which were in 3gakki but no FE so I'm kinda lost now.

Each time I run Muramasa, it takes about hour to start up: window doesn't appear, but process is there and slowly eats more and more memory, and after a while it would show things and run without problems.
Is this fixable?

Hey, which visual novel is easy to read?

I'm looking for visual novels with kana next to kanji signs as aid or entirely in kana. I don't mind if the visual novel itself is aimed for children.

>>13671923
Oretsuba and Saihate no Ima.

>>13668869

What's the name of that VN?

>>13671923
>or entirely in kana

That's a stupid idea, it would be harder to read that something easy with kanji.

>>13671930

Cheers, I'll check it out.

>>13671923
Pokemon
Youkai Watch

>>13671923
>I'm looking for visual novels with kana next to kanji signs as aid or entirely in kana.

I'm pretty sure there aren't that many as you're talking about mostly adult medium. If you need a lot of help, manga is always simpler to read than a mostly literary medium. That said, most moege/charage are rather simple to read as long as you know grammar and have basic volcabulary (both of which you should have before trying even the simplest VNs).

>>13671981

I see, I guess manga suits me more at the moment then. I suppose I should look up some manga instead, thanks by the way.

Can I play VN on Windows 8/8.1 tablet?

>>13671994
No

>>13671994
Yeah, some guy posted a photo of him playing Dies Irae on a tablet few months ago for example.

Although it would be good idea to check EGS/Google to see if the VN runs on 8/8.1 in general, the compatibility is lower than Win 7.

>>13671994
Maybe if you find a VN that runs on Windows 8.

>>13671931
It's in the Wei release of the new Koihime Musou game.
It's not out yet.

http://baseson.nexton-net.jp/sinkoi-eiyuutan/gi/index.html

>>13672407

Ok, I'll be looking forward to the release.

How is Sumire /jp/ ? Is it good?

>>13672517
16-sai is great, 17-sai is good but missing something.

>>13671740
If I remember right, 3gakki FE has more CGs for the main girls' routes (Nagomi, Erika, Yoppi, etc.) but cuts the routes for Inori, Mana, and Tonfa. There are a few unique CGs for Mana and Tonfa in 3gakki FE though in little mini-routes they have. Basically, if you care about Inori, Mana, and Tonfa's routes you'll have to play 3gakki regular edition.

Okay, the latest Saekano novel is pretty hilarous. We get to see Maruto dissing about certain eroge consumers' obsession about NTR and virgins in a joking manner.

Context: Aki-kun was explaining to Katou about what problems/issues to avoid when writing a plot.

>>13672905
Cont.

>>13672905
>>13672913
>>>/a/

>>13672940
fuck off EOP

>>13672913
>>13672905
Where are the pictures???
Why can't I hear voice?

>>13672952
It's a novel based on a VN (or something of that sort), it's relevant enough.

>>13672977
No, it's a novel, with an anime, and a visual novel based on said anime, for vita.
Completely unrelated.

>>13672983
Close enough.

>>13672983
I haven't seen/played/read it, but I was under the impression that the main characters are making a VN in it or something?

>>13672994
Yes.

>>13672997
In which case, I'd say it's pretty relevant to this thread.

>>13672727
I see, I dont really care about slut Inori but for tonfa I guess I'll just finish the FE, then download the regular edition and play just her route in it.

>>花咲ワークスプリング！ ビジュアルファンブック
>>ヒカリとののかの出会いや、ヒカリが遊真に恋心を抱くきっかけとなった合格発表の日という、本編に繋がる過去エピソードを書き下ろしたショートストーリーも見逃せない！

I think they are trying to fix the shit they have made, like making some arc about Ayano's highschool years just for showing how she really hated phoenix or something. It wont work though.

>>13673145
Aren't they benefitting from the drama anyway?

Finished Mahoyo. Nice game with very high production standards. I liked all the characters especially by the end Alice. I wish Type-Moon would get off their asses and make a game more often then every 8 years or so.

>>13673159
The only characters I liked in the game were Alice and Seijuuro, they probably end up together too in the end.

>>13673159
Why make more games when you can just milk Fate forever?

>>13673151
Dunno, But most of people bought that game just from the trial and advertisements so we'll see if the buyers are actually mad for them at their next release.

>>13673172
More franchises.... more money...!

>>13673170
I'd like if the last game, if it is ever made, would have diverging points unlike the first/only game. Aoko is alright but I'd like to at least see Alice win.

>>13673145
Was the shitstorm big enough to affect their sales or popularity anyway? I thought it sold pretty well. They're just milking the story a bit more.

>>13673215
As I said we can only see it with their next game, Yeah hanasaki sold well but most of them were pre-order or buying after playing trial or something. At least I was going to buy it since trial was good and opening was so cute, but after playing Ayano's route I changed my mind.

>>13671994
Yeah, I've got one and it runs eroge fairly well. The main issue is that not having a keyboard makes playing some games difficult, but you can use TouchMousePointer with custom layouts to work around that. Also, make sure to get one with at least 2 GB of RAM and at least a 1280x800 screen.

>>13672905
What device are you reading this on/what source?

The trial for fairytale requiem was pretty interesting.
You rarely see what amounts to actually insane characters hallucinating the whole game with a proper plot to back it up. Odile and Odette made me really curious since they have two endings in the library and Gerda was probably the best.
Art was really fitting too, it was extremely normal when it needed to be and super colorful for the rest, it's funny that people that aren't heroines. Music was nice too, even if I kinda hope they use some classic pieces for the routes, they all have operas, maybe not Rapunzel, and I think those are free.

>>13673180
Fate does enough for them, why work when an existing IP keeps getting you money? TM its probably not greedy and are okay with their current income.

>>13673977
TM does actually need a ton of money to make things on par with Mahoyo.

>>13674043
Well considering how it fared then i can see why TM doesnt bother to make something like that anymore.

>>13672905
I thought this was the eroge thread, not the LN thread.

>>13674130
Go away, EOP.

>>13674149
Stop trying so hard to fit in.

August's new work.

>>13674362
I'm kind of interested in the plot, actually.
Still no release date, though.
Here are some sprites shot from the back.

>>13674362
Meh main heroine.
>>13674365
The first one from the left looks gorgeous.

>>13674354
Stop assuming things about people.

>>13674365
Elsa is pretty hot in her uniform.

>>13674365
Mmm, I love rear 立ち絵.

>>13674371
Elsa seems to be the only one against the royal family, she's probably getting rekt eventually. I even thought she was a subchara at first.

>>13674380
Just say sprite????

>>13674371
Damn those hems on the school uniforms look good.
I'm not entirely convinced about Kotone's rear sprite though. It's as if she were holding down her skirt, but she's wearing a hakama so why would she do that. Looks like she's having dysmenorrhea or something. I don't think it fits her character image.

>>13674413
Forgot my image.

>>13674405
Not weeaboo enough.

Any good VNs where you play as a delinquent protag or routes within a game that has a good delinquent heroine?

>>13674709
>routes within a game that has a good delinquent heroine?
Tsujidou-san is the obvious one but you have to deal with a protag who is mostly horrible

>>13674728
>mostly horrible

That I can agree - he got a body that takes hits pretty well so became the punch bag.

>>13673445
This game is probably not going to get uploaded during the first week.

Do any VN-related events or conventions in Japan happen during October-December? Besides winter Comiket.

>>13675478
It will if you buy it and upload it for everyone.

>>13675478
Does Liar Soft ship overseas? I'll buy it if so

>>13676145
You'd have to use something like Tenso.

>>13676145
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=LTD-PCG-04495

Anyone played Sumire? What's it like?

I'm stuck in Evenickle again. I'm at the ranger school and I just freed the pink haired girl who turned out to be a zombie, then I returned picked up the item and was blocked by a gate. It seems I'm missing some event before I can proceed. The only obvious one is the bottom one in the pool room, but I don't understand what to do.

>>13677935
You have to click on every switches
One of the switch is hidden and won't show as a (!) so click on everything, I think it's in one of the room after the stair

>>13677994
Found it! Oh my god that's such a shitty move.
Thanks!

Where can I download stuff other than sukebei?

Is perfect dark still used?

>>13678884
Eroge Download is pretty solid.

>>13678919
That's an EOP site.

>>13679018
It works well for translated eroge you wanna read untranslated because they provide the translations separately.
>>13678884
Anime Sharing worked very well for the majority of titles I couldn't find on Sukebei.

>>13678884
Chinks

oh god

I love elf

>>13678884
baidu

I have a VN artist related question. Should I ask about it on this thread or should I ask about it on the translation status thread instead?

>>13680011
Make a new thread about it. If the 2hus can do so why not you?

>>13680011
How well people here and there can/will answer it probably depends on what VNs they have done art for but it never hurts to ask.

>>13680016
Well I am autistic. I just don't feel like making a thread about it.

>>13680011
>VN artist related question
>should I ask about it on the translation status thread instead?
I don't see how VN art has anything to do with translations.

This is a illustration that is drawn by Kuuchuu Yousai on a shikishi. Is she a character from Makai Tenshi Djibril?

>>13680022
Well that's true. The lack of sleep really has driven me crazy.

>>13677935
How's evenicle? I was thinking to play it. Never played an alicesoft game before.

>>13680032
I don't think so, but there are so many games in that series that I can't say I'm 100% certain.

>>13680032
No.

http://prot.co.jp/psv/himawari/index.html

>>13680071
Thanks for the reply. I don't really play much VN games so I am clueless about it. Asking on /a/ about this sure is a big mistake.

>>13680080
Holy shit. Thanks a lot. /jp/ sure can be kind.

>>13680061
It's very easy and quite "moderate" content-wise for Alicesoft standards.

>>13680097
No NTR?

>>13680080
Is this VN popular around here?

>>13680141
One of the "heroines" gets raped by monsters. I say "heroine" because she's arguably the least developed of the bunch and you only H her late in the game as a final trophy of sorts. Some other characters (not the protagonist or his entourage) get NTR'd.

>>13680146
I guess, although it's not talked about much nowadays.

Lose is now blocking all non Japanese IP thanks to you faggot who mass troll-voted on their site a few weeks ago. Good job.

>>13680652
I thought they already gaijin blocked. Oh well, if there's one brand that probably should block non-Japanese IPs it's Lose.

>>13680652
I fucking hate you people

>>13680674
Yup. Always found it odd that Lose didn't gaijin block considering the loli content.

>>13680652
It's working fine for me.

>>13680652
Working fine here. But I wouldn't mind if they did it to be honest.

>>13680652
It always sends me "http://www.lose.jp/wp/wp-admin/install.php" regardless whatever I try to do and whichever proxy I use, is that gaijinblock or just some bug?

>>13680677
Hate the game not the players. Not like they were going to listen to the polls anyway.

>>13680652
I can get to the splash page but beyond that is NG.
It might be two things:
- A faulty WordPress install or a broken plugin (these things are hella buggy sometimes)
- A gaijin block that isn't site-wide from root (why not?)

I just tried with a Japanese IP on the 2nd try that works on AB2's site and I get データベース接続確立エラー so it really might be a faulty WordPress configuration or something. I honestly would not mind if it is in preparation of a gaijin block-- it was kind of retarded what some people were thinking they were blindly doing at that vote.

They've been having server problems ever since they updated the site layout. Try clearing your cookies if you can't get to it.

Unfortunately I bet they're not even aware of all the gaijin voting on their polls.

>>13680767
Well I bet >>13680677 feels like a fucking moron now.

>>13680652
The whole site works fine for me.

I'm guessing it's what the other anon said; they just changed the design of their whole website so it was probably just bugged.

They should be blocked though, fucking retards voting on a poll for a game they aren't going to play.

>>13680767
Well, that's just probably WordPress fucking up. Wish they didn't, a lot of times I read technology news it involves WP plugin breaches.

>>13680775
I stand by what I said

>>13675421
Hatsuyuki Sakura

Oh wow, that dress poll at lose is fucking insane.
How I even supposed to choose between transparent micro-bikini and nazi uniform?

>>13680868
Wait wait wait, is there literally a nazi uniform option?

>>13680885
I'm sure he's calling the train uniform a nazi uniform.

>>13680908
Shame, I would love some uniform options

>>13680914
But there's a lot of uniform options on the poll.

>>13680885>>13680908
There are "German military uniform" and "SS Uniform" options.

>>13680868
They're doing more polls for us to trollvote? I guess I'll go post it at reddit.

>>13680933
Oh, my mistake. I remember people calling the train uniform a nazi uniform awhile ago so I assumed he made the same assumption.

>>13680933

My carefully picked options.

>>13680061
Pretty easy to play, pretty easy to understand. I'd recommend it.

I just defeated the snail boss in the salt temple. First time I fought him, my team forced me to flee, then I found the salt ball. I thought it would activate during the fight, but I ended up just killing it by poison (since that deals a percentage of total HP). What was I supposed to do if I wanted to melt the snail by salt?

>>13680946
What other polls they had? I remember first one for best girl only.

Opinion: Faceless protagonists are the worst thing in VNs

Not ony do they make any relationship between the MC and the other characters incredibly bland, it just takes me out of the story so much when CG pictures are incredibly awkward in how they're clearly made to not show the face of the MC in convoluted ways, making him face away from the 'camera', having things in front of his face, or the ever-dumb "My hair over my eyes is a curtain of impassable darkness".

>>13681010
When I was reading ChuSinGura, I finally realized that faceless protags are much better than protags with ugly/annoying face.

>>13680967
Why are they so desperate with their pandering? They should at least give the heroines names and a character description plus a short setting description before they conduct polls. What's the point otherwise?

>>13680652
It's blocked for me yesterday, but today it works fine
Huh

>>13681010
I bet you play moege and complain about all VNs being the same too.

>>13681027
Not at all. I'm obviously not referring to heavy book-like plot driven VNs, in which the MC has to be an actual character.
And I'm not even going to the opposite side, playing moege and expecting deep plots.

What I'm complaining about are the VNs in the middle, the ones that could have an interesting story, but they feel like a dish in which someone forgot the salt, since the complete lack of any personality and appearance of the MC makes the whole thing bland.

>>13681022
It's just for the extra ero scenes. It's not the first time they've done something like this.

>>13681039
Most games where the protagonist actually matters give him at least some kind of personality, even if he can be a bit bland due to being a perspective character. Whether he has a face or not seems to be up to the artist most of the time though. I've even seen games where the protag actually has a face but it just keeps disappearing for most CGs.

Still, I wonder what you mean by "VNs in the middle" considering we're talking about genres, unless you use moege to refer to anything but really heavy edgy stuff like this thread sometimes tends to.

To be honest, having read enough games with insufferable protagonists, sometimes to the point where I just can't bring myself to finish the game, I've grow to appreciate a bland protagonist in some games.

I think an important distinction to make is whether the protagonist is actually a character in his own right, or if he exists purely as a (static) medium by which to interact with the female characters. I don't see the point in hating static mediums. The game wouldn't be improved, necessarily, by having an actual character get in the way of moe.

>>13681072
I know there is some VN in which you could consider the MC to be 'superfuous', but that's exactly while I likened it to a dish missing salt.

In a VN with a bland/inexistent MC you can still feel the taste, you can still appreciate the plot. But the MC is the eyes through which the story is told, the one whose thoughts should give a particular lens through which the story is seen.
If you're going to give me a faceless protagonist, don't have one at all. Just give me a narrator point of view and I'll be happier, compared to having a placeholder character whose sole reason of existence is letting people like pic related have a place in the story.

>>13681072
>where the protag actually has a face but it just keeps disappearing for most CGs.
this is even more annoying
>>13681085
>The game wouldn't be improved, necessarily, by having an actual character get in the way of moe.
It pretty much always could. It makes everything slightly more believable which makes the moe more enjoyable.

>>13681018
He's not ugly though.

Source: I like guys.

>>13681095
I disagree.

>>13681088
Giving a bland protagonist a face isn't going to make him more interesting, just like removing the face from an interesting protagonist isn't going to make him less interesting.

>>13681102
Girls who fall in love with a faceless protagonist for no reason aren't moe, they're just sluts.

>>13681104
Love is pretty much like that. People fall in love with people at the drop of a hat. But. It's through the relationship that this superficial love deepens and strengthens, or perhaps dies away. It's simply the human condition. No if ands or sluts about it.

>>13681103
That's just semantics though.
Protagonists with a face are written to have a personality from the start, while faceless ones are usually written to be empty shells for the reader to insert to.
It's not just a cosmetic complaint, it's what that cosmetic change usually represents that bothers me.

And please don't come out and give me one or two 'exceptions' as if that'd prove that I'm wrong, you know full well this is the usual rule in Japanese VN writing.

>>13681106
Real life love actually blossoms from a friendship that deepens into love, unless it's something purely physical.
Stuff like "Oh man I just fell in love with her but I don't even know her name" isn't actual love, it's just lust for an attractive appearance.

I have never successfully self-inserted in eroge/visual novel.

A bland guy is a bland guy, that's his personality. I would do things he wouldn't do and vice versa, the only common things are the choices I/he can make.

>>13681088
>>13681095
Have you tried yuri? Because that's pretty much what you're describing. There you have a protagonist that has an actual character which is written just as well as the heroines (she could be considered a heroine herself), she won't "get in the way" of anything and is not just a stand in for the player while you can still get your moe and romance.

>>13681127
How do you self insert?

>>13681127
>Real life love actually blossoms from a friendship that deepens into love,
Ah yes, all the men in the friendzone can attest to that.
>Stuff like "Oh man I just fell in love with her but I don't even know her name" isn't actual love, it's just lust for an attractive appearance.
That IS real love, doofus. What do you think love is, a mystical pixie dust scattered over us by God and his angels? No, it's an urge to mate.

>>13681127
>>13681143
You are both wrong...and right.

Lust can blossom into real love, just like as friendship, or even denial.

Even forced marriage can blossom into real love if both parties reach an understanding.

>>13681127
>Real life love actually blossoms from a friendship that deepens into love, unless it's something purely physical.
>Stuff like "Oh man I just fell in love with her but I don't even know her name" isn't actual love, it's just lust for an attractive appearance.

Love and friendship are to completely different things, as are lust and love, and friendship is not necessary for love. Strangers hook up all the time and can have a good romantic relationship without ever being friends.

>>13681133
But I don't want moege, I'm talking about plot-driven VN.

>>13681140
Either into one of the characters I can most sympathise with, or I don't and I just enjoy the story as a reader.
I mostly loathe the concept of self-inserts inserted on the author side, because it cripples stories just for the sake of a reader that lacks the proper imagination to insert in a story where there isn't a pre-made empty shell for them to occupy.

>>13681127
>Protagonists with a face are written to have a personality from the start, while faceless ones are usually written to be empty shells for the reader to insert to.

That is starting to be less and less clear these days. We are starting to have more and more games with bland protagonists that have bland faces (black hair and eyes, somewhat soft, kind looking features) and games with protagonists that do not have faces but do actually have a personality (see a lot of recent games with "proactive protagonist" as an example).

>>13681171
So in other words, you don't self insert.

Sympathizing with a character is not self inserting.

>>13681171
>But I don't want moege, I'm talking about plot-driven VN.
What kind of games are you playing? I asked this earlier and I'll ask this now: what kind of 'middle of the road' games do you find with so incredibly bland protagonists? Unless you're talking about some charage or something I have no idea what kinds of games you're even talking about.

>>13681179
Aren't all moege basically charage?

>>13681177
Not while reading the story.
I never got the concept of self inserting the way it's cultivated in VNs.
If I'm reading something that's tantamount to a book, what I want is abandoning reality and enjoy a story set in a world that's not ours.
How can I possibly enjoy that in a story where I am in there?
How can a fantasy perfect world exist if I'm one of its inhabitants?

Maybe I'll fantasize about being IN the world later, imagining how it'd be living in there and participating in the events of the plot. But being in there WHILE the plot is still going on?
That'd feel like I'm ruining the story.
I clearly can't do half the things a fictional character could, it breaks my suspension of disbelief so hard it makes me unable to enjoy things every time the MC is clearly made for me to 'insert' into.

>>13681179
I agree with this.

Less general meta posting regarding the medium, more discussion on specific games.

We're seeing the forest but missing the tree.

>>13681186
How do you know when the MC is clearly made for you to insert into when you don't even know how to self insert?

>>13681191
not him but the signs are pretty obvious
no face, bland black-hair-over-eyes appearance, little to no strong opinions on anything, almost no personality, but somehow still the center of the story despite being unremarkable in any way

>>13681188
>We're seeing the forest
Perhaps, rather, we're extrapolating a forest from a perceived tree or two.

>>13681198
That just means he's a bland character.

You still can't self insert into him because you can't do half the shit he does and vice versa.

>>13681200
The trees are still haven't been specified yet.

>>13681209
Even worse.

>>13681202
self-insert main characters usually have a reason for being able to do stuff, though
they save a goldfish, they accidentally trip over an ancient artifact, they get hit by a random ray of energy
the core of the thing is that the mc is completely unremarkable, yet a fortuitous occurrence (or something earned purely out of 'being nice') gives the mc powers that will aid him in doing incredible things, despite still being the same person as a reader might be

a reader can insert just fine because they can think 'I'd be exactly the same if I just got that power, after all I'm a nice guy so the magic goldfish goddess would surely give me a prize llike to the mc'

Isn't it easier to just create your own shadow mental character when you need to self-insert, rather than taking a character that already exists? Self inserting into a story rather than a setting makes little sense, as by the simple act of self-inserting your inserted personality is going to alter the story and lead to different, desired outcomes. Why else would anyone ever self-insert?

>>13681211
Then that reader is deluding himself, because there's no proof or anything that proves he would behave the same way as the MC.

>>13681219
>Then that reader is deluding himself
Isn't self-insertion a delusion to begin with?

>>13681214
Self-insertion is possible in RPG where you can create your own characters, in that you can roleplay yourself.

Visual novels have too much exposition, too much thoughts, too much reflections for them to us to make shit up.

>>13681214
It's exactly what I meant here >>13681186

If you self insert into a story you'll be ruining it, it's better to self insert into a setting with your imagination, rather than using an empty puppet.

>>13681222
Which is a paradox.

The reader is deluding himself into believing something else that is not him, thus it's not inserting yourself, rather you become said character.

>>13681230
Name some eroge where you play an empty puppet.

>>13680652
Works fine here (Europe).

Nonetheless, I did notice Fuwafags voting in the first poll en masse. I wouldn't really mind if they just ignored all foreign-IP votes.

Also I agree with this guy >>13680674
>if there's one brand that probably should block non-Japanese IPs it's Lose.

>>13681236
夢見る薬
ものべの
ないしょのないしょ

Just to name some incredibly popular ones

>>13681242
>ものべの
That can't be true.

The character moves and has thoughts on his own, that's not an empty puppet.

>>13681246
The most complex and opinionated thought he ever makes is "Natsuha sure is cute" or "Ah, this place never changes".
All his other thoughts are consequences of the choices you make as the player, to the point where it's not the character's "thoughts", it's just a narration of the choices you made.

>>13681253
I would still deny it because an empty puppet wouldn't narrate or think at all, in fact, you would narrate for yourself.

>>13681253
To be fair he also wants to be a doctor.

>>13681242
>夢見る薬
The guy is a bit of a dick turned into a whiteknight depending on the route, but he HAS a personality. Not every character needs to have a very strong and distinctive personality, real humans rarely have such outlying personality. The game doesn't have any magical stuff happening in it either, he's just your average guy dealing with women with issues.
>ものべの
Guy's personality is meek as fuck, but he still acts according to intentions (his own) rather than being a sage whose only purpose is to let the story pass through him.
>ないしょのないしょ
Well, it IS a nukige, not exactly a plot driven eroge, you know. Here you might as well remove anything that is not sex scenes, the MC is just there to provide a cock.

>>13681281
Even nukige MC is just too normal/cruel/alpha/beta to be self inserted into, like BISHOP titles MC.

>>13681281
>real humans rarely have such outlying personality
I more or less agree, people are bundles of opinion and controversy. There are certainly plenty of zen people without much to say, but nine times out of ten, you'll have a pretty opinionated person. Look at how serious people are about video games. That same attitude is directed at important life questions.

>>13681182
Charage focus on character development and interactions, often with decent amount of drama or conflicts.

Moege tend to focus on being feel good games with waifus that exist for you to adore and a lot of cute things. A lot of people here use it to describe anything with moe, but that compasses most of modern eroge so it's not very useful descriptor.

Still, it's not like there are written down 'official' definitions so plenty of people have different ideas about what counts as what.

>>13681299
>I more or less agree
I mean completely disagree. Fuck, what a typo

>>13681302
Please don't use "waifu" so casually, you mean "heroines".

>>13681312
I think people in general don't give a shit about video games. You're looking at a tiny subset of the population if you think people are serious about games.

>>13681299
Being a bundle of (often uninformed) opinions, doesn't make you an outlier/interesting.
Plus, if most people are outliers - well they can't be can they?

>>13681299
Have you talked to an actual person in a while or are you american?
Most people don't particularly strong opinions in most matters. Most people are fine with their own worries and hopes without giving much thought to anything unrelated to their immediate surroundings.

>>13681316
Gamers are fairly serious about games. Of course, random people wouldn't care, just like I don't care about football.
>>13681318
He claimed
>a very strong and distinctive personality
to be and outlier, but it's really not; most people have strong personalities (even if hidden behind zen or aloofness), and are pretty distinctive.

>>13681302
Waifu does not mean "girl." Take the word abuse back to wherever you got it from.

>>13681325
He obviously meant "girls intended to be waifus because it's a dating sim based around you falling in love with girls and having romance with them".
>>13681323
People without strong opinions are simply uninformed or intellectually bankrupt.

>>13681315
>>13681325
I use waifu because I find that the best way to describe a 'perfect' girl that may have flaws but they too are supposed to be attractive.

>>13681331
No, what you meant are "heroines".

And it's not "you", it's the main character.

You are witnessing them, you are not them.

>>13681324
Well yeah, people are only opinionated about stuff they actually care about, and most of the time these opinions are vapid and uninformed carbon copies of the opinions of the people that surround them - family and friends.

>>13681335
Really? Are you really going to be a pedantic fuck? Are you really going to waste everyone's time with that drivel?

>>13681334
It's a terribly choice for word since "waifu" doesn't even mean that.

>>13681341
I understood what he meant.

>>13681324
Depends how you mean that really. Sure, someone can be distinctive in a small sample of people, but they aren't interesting or special if you look at the whole population.

>>13681340
I am, yeah. As you said yourself, "People without strong opinions are simply uninformed or intellectually bankrupt."

It's time we make a distinction, you are not the MC, at best you are making choices and his schedule i.e. being his manager but not him.

>>13681347
Well, congratulations on pretending to have strong opinions and frivolous shit. You sure showed me.

>>13681345
Well, I don't, so I'd rather he use words I understand.

>>13681331
>People without strong opinions are simply uninformed or intellectually bankrupt.
Or they just, I dunno? don't give a shit. It's okay to not care sometimes, you know.

>>13681350
Indeed.

But I don't think it's frivolous shit. The problem here is people making a mistake, mistaking between the main character and yourself.

>>13681341
No it does not, but it gives you an idea of something that gets the point across just fine, it seems.

>>13681357
I actually don't get it, but whatever.

>>13681354
The things in life are pretty important to give a shit about. If someone doesn't, I can only assume they're either ignorant of the situation or they're too dumb to appreciate it.

>>13681368
>The things in life are pretty important to give a shit about.
? I don't understand, sorry.

>>13681368
Being ignorant and dumb are personality, so yeah.

>>13681356
Yeah, how dare people self insert as the main character, they're clearly doing it wrong and should stop doing things you don't do

>>13681368
The more you know of a situation the less likely your opinion on the issue is going to be some radical far-leaning bullshit

>>13681368
Would you say that the current waifu/heroine discussion is is a) important or b) you're too ignorant to care or c) you're too dumb to appreciate it.
Or d) it's not worth my time, regardless of my knowledge of the topic.

>>13681379
Nuanced opinions are even better. By strong I didn't mean "loud and shouty".
>>13681381
Waifus are serious business.

>>13681379
Considering I do not/cannot self insert, I do not understand that feeling.

>>13681381
Also, you're assuming I meant that everyone must have an opinion on everything, which is not what I meant; rather, everyone should have opinions on plenty of things (economics, politics, life) etc and if they don't, it's because they're ignorant or dumb. However, smaller topics such as pedantry and video games, yeah sure, some people may not have opinions. You don't have to have an opinion on everything. But if someone has no strong opinions - dumb or ignorant.

>>13681368
What is your opinion on Kenyan political parties?

>>13681382
Yeah, and the more nuanced your opinion becomes the less you even want to argue about it or bother thinking about the issue anymore. Not caring doesn't necessarily happen as a result or ignorance, that's a rather ignorant thing to say. Getting all uppity about stuff is a waste of time and energy, that's what I call ignorant

>>13681398
Who choses what topics are important enough to warrant an opinion? I notice you didn't include sports despite it being one of the most often discussed, debated, cirklejerked, topics of all time.

>>13681398
I assume you don't actually mean strong, but relatively deep and nuanced opinions.
In breaking news: people who have no interests are boring as shit! wow!

>>13681400
See >>13681398
>>13681405
It's an individual choice. An individual who thinks no topics are worth having an opinion about is either dumb or ignorant.
>>13681403
I never said you had to argue about it. This is in the context of eroge protagonists and someone saying most people don't have strong opinions. That's false. People develop strong (i.e. nuanced and complex) opinions and outlooks over their lives. I never implied they had to argue about it.

>>13681409
Probably because in most cookie-cutter eroge nothing ever really comes up for the protag to show his strong, nuanced opinions. And most people, at the root of it, really don't care about anything but the most pressing issues that touch their lives directly. Especially not young people like you see in eroge. These protagonists are goddamn highschoolers

>>13681424
Are you seriously implying that highschoolers aren't among the most vocal and angry opinion shouters? A "realistic" eroge protagonist would be someone who calls all the heroines SJWs and rants non-stop about women and politicians online.

>>13681409
I think chocolate ice cream is the best kind of ice cream. For me, this is important as I enjoy ice cream quite a bit and eat it rather often in hot summer days like this one and I have tasted hundreds of different kinds of ice creams to form this opinion. For you, ice cream may be the least important thing in the world, but I can describe the fine differences between chocolate and different kind of chocolate.
For you, American politics may be the most important thing in the world, but I don't have a strong opinion on them as they have nothing to do with my daily life, my interests or my surroundings.
Both of these are just as important, but chances are that if we met on the street one day, neither of these subjects would come up, unless I'm so fanatic about the ice cream that I declare it to all the world on daily basis or you find the politics such an important subject you just have to bring it up at every chance.

Is this what you mean?

>>13681438
I mean, pretty much. The example I had in mind while typing these posts were an young 18-year old something reading marxist texts online and gradually getting really passionate about the implementation of universal basic income or something; rather than something like ice cream, but I you've got the idea down.

Combine your opinions of ice cream and all the other opinions you've built up and baby you've got a human, a nuanced and distinctive individual with strong opinions on a variety of subjects. Which is normal.

>>13681437
No, that's university/college kids. Highschoolers don't give a fuck because they're too busy trying to get their genitalia wet.

Soon.

>>13681437
Well, I thought the discussion had moved in the direction of a "strong opinion" referring to more nuanced and complex thoughts, in which case highschoolers are exactly as you said and the exact opposite of a character you'd expect to have the strong opinions this guy wants to see. I don't think any young person that shouts and parrots the shit they heard on the radio or from their father's rants while watching CNN really care about what they're shouting about, it's all an act to express some individuality and get some attention. Which is a vapid and simple behavior, not complex at all.

>>13681450
>all ages

Dropped.

>>13681449
This is one of those cases where I'm absolutely, 100% sure you're wrong, but can't substantiate myself with evidence, so I'll have to just agree to disagree.
>>13681451
The degree of complexity is too subjective to consider; in the end even a high schooler shouting second-hand opinions has a "distinct and strong" personality simply due to the 10~ years of life experience they've built up.

>>13681437
>A "realistic" eroge protagonist would be someone who calls all the heroines SJWs and rants non-stop about women and politicians online.

If that's what you want then by all means continue to mourn the current state of eroge, I'll just keep enjoying myself with unrealistic characters

WTF is this, /pol/?

>>13681459
>This is one of those cases where I'm absolutely, 100% sure you're wrong, but can't substantiate myself with evidence, so I'll have to just agree to disagree.
To be fair, that's one of those things that depends on where you live. Highschooler can refer to anyone from 14 to 21 year old, depending on where you live and even within same age groups the surrounding culture affects a lot of that.

>>13681483
/jp/ - just politics

>>13681483
Too much philosophical discussion and not enough memes to be /pol/

I asked this some while ago, but didn't really receive any answers so I'm going to try again. What are the best PS3 (or other console only) exclusive VNs, if any? I'm planning on getting Utawarerumono 2 when it releases and I already played through Root;Double on PC so I'm not really interested in replaying it even if the PS3 port supposedly fixes the shitty final route. Searching "PS3" and "VNs" in the archive doesn't really turn up with usable results.

>>13681450
>>13681457
I'm most bothered by the episodic structure. One thing VNs usually have better than anime or LNs is that they usually come with actual fucking endings, but the Angel Beats isn't going to have even that, made even more worrisome by how long it has been in development. And it's questionable how they're going to be expanding it story-wise, or if they're planning to do it in the first place instead of just recycling the anime plot with only minor differences.

>>13681450
Why would I want to play 1/6 of a story I already watched five years ago?

>>13681512
I tried a bit of that yandere harem which name I don't remember and it was readable but unremarkable.

I don't think there is anything else worth, at most some are also available on Vita
The PS2 has a wealth of really good exclusive VNs though if you want to get into them

>>13681512
https://vndb.org/v/all?q=&fil=olang-ja.plat-ps3

>>13681186
>How can I possibly enjoy that in a story where I am in there?
How can a fantasy perfect world exist if I'm one of its inhabitants?
Because you as the reader are the one inside the story. Something like Ever17's Blink Winkel.

>>13681450
>No ero

Nah, bait game.

>>13681457
>>13681549
Epic

>>13681512
I tried to assemble a list of them a while ago. Here's what looked promising to me (plus ports + exclusives, etc.)
PS1: Double Cast, Maboroshi Tsukiya, Tokimeki Memorial, Mitsumete Knight, Kuno no Kizuna (the remake for the PS2 had controversial changes and the PC remake is completely different, they really should separate the entries on vndb), Fuuraiki, Mikagura Shoujo Tanteidan, Sentimental Grafitti, L no Kisetsu, Machi, Prismaticallization
PS2: Ayakashibito, Pissicato Polca (new route by Romeo), Utawarerumono (a huge amount of bonuses, it's available on PSN), Natsuyume Yawa, My Merry May + Maybe (by the writer of Symphonic Rain), Sakura Taisen (JRPG + VN hybrid you're probably familiar with), Kita e (first game is for DC only), Demonbane (a LOT of new content), Routes (it has voices in the port), Akai Ito (apparently it's much better than Aoi Shiro)
PS3/Vita: Root;Double as you mentioned, and & (new route). Can't think of any with actually new content.
By the way, don't get Suigetsu's port. There's some other PS2 titles I believe but I can't remember them now.

>>13681712
Oh a few more things: Baldr Force for PS2 is worthy of getting since it has better voice acting and an improved gameplay. It's a shame the OP fucking sucks; some games I listed have PSP ports, but as far as I've researched, it seems the japanese are pretty awful at porting older VNs to it so I'd stick with the original console versions. Let's not forget Galaxy Angel (most titles still untranslated), and the Memories Off series.
Ah, PSP: Mashiroiro Symphony, Tenshi Ranman (thank you anon who mentioned them a long time ago)
I'm sure there are many more for the PSP, maybe even some otomege worth checking, but I know nothing about them.

>>13681712
>>13681758
>don't get Suigetsu's port

Why not?

>>13681758
>I'm sure there are many more for the PSP
Himanatsu has one extra route for example.

>>13681812
Check out the first review.
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%AD%E3%83%83%E3%83%89-%E6%B0%B4%E6%9C%88~%E8%BF%B7%E5%BF%83~/dp/B0002UXDIO/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1435004387&sr=8-
Seems like it's worthy of checking out due to voices but this new text addition and CGs make me think the original would probably be better to check out first.

>>13681712
Many thanks. I'll make sure to check those games out.

>>13681712
The PS1/PS2 have a lot more than that, PS3/Vita also has the Fortissimo sequel thing

In my opinion, without counting Machi/428 since I didn't play them yet, I'd say the best console only games are My Merry May Be, Natsuyume Yawa, Tokimemo 2, Sakura Taisen 3, Super Dangan Ronpa 2 and Second Novel

>>13682242
>Sakura Taisen 3

Sakura Taisen 1-4 are on PC too.

Also the Fortissimo sequel is coming to PC too.

>>13682300
>Sakura Taisen 1-4 are on PC too
wot

>>13682303
http://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_ime_c_0_8?__mk_ja_JP=%E3%82%AB%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8A&url=search-alias%3Dsoftware&field-keywords=%E3%82%B5%E3%82%AF%E3%83%A9%E5%AF%BE%E6%88%A6&sprefix=%E3%82%B5%E3%82%AF%E3%83%A9%E5%AF%BE%E6%88%A6%E3%80%80%EF%BC%B0%EF%BC%A3%2Caps%2C349

http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=43708

>>13682242
Yeah I'm aware, the amount of ps2 ports and ps1 exclusives/ports is insane. Also it's good to mention all of those Kogado PSP games, like the deep blue series and that nurse yuri game, and the .5pb games like dunamis15.

>>13682319
All the Kogado games except the latest version of the nurse game are available on PC

>>13682315
oh baby

Can someone help me install Sorechiru? It keeps asking me for the master disk.

New thread

no new thread ;(

>>13683215
Get the DVD edition from Baidu and then follow.
http://bartlettjp.blog133.fc2.com/blog-entry-413.html

>>13683516
>>13683852
Please visit an appropriate specialist and get your autism checked.

I started to play Evenicle. I've done only the proologue and the first mission (the one in wich you ned 100G to enter in the town).I have some questions: are the ! the only way to acquire newmission? Is there an H scene for every girl in the game?

no new thread ;((

>>13684059
sorry

>>13683937
Missions just come around with the plot.

There is a sex scene with pretty much every attractive girl in the game (bar shopkeepers) but not all involve Aster

I wouldn't recommend playing if you can't read Japanese

>>13684195
>I wouldn't recommend playing if you can't read Japanese

Why are you assuming he doesn't know Japanese? Please don't be rude.

>>13681010

Currently reading 時計仕掛けのレイライン, it's pretty cute and all but I feel like theres a lack of story. One bigger case happens and then all that happens is that the protagonist falls in love with one of the girls. Played two routes so far. Has anyone played the sequels? Do they step up?

>>13684316
They're meme games

>>13684323
What do you mean by that?
I know it's one of those recommended VNs for starters (if that's what you mean) but that's exactly why I'm playing them aswell. My Japanese is not that good and this is about one of the few VN I can read without assistance.

>>13684316
They step up a lot, a real lot.
You should just do Ushio's routes for the first two games, as they are the only canon things.

>>13684316
The story picks up in the second game. But yes, the side routes are a joke.

>>13684316
Worth a read, they are short games too so just fucking do it.

>>13684316
The second game is much, much better, though it also has two very short and completely irrelevant side routes. You can skip the side routes in the first two games if you wish. However Ushio's short epilogues (that you can accidentally not unlock depending on your choices even if you stick to the main route) in the first two games are both canon and while they don't really have any real major plot points the protagonist and her "relationship" is referenced a lot in the third game's main route, which has no branching parts and the extra side stuff is only unlocked after completing the main story.

tl;dr skip the side routes but do Ushio's epilogues

but really, where is the new thread?

https://twitter.com/_tsuminohi/status/613276747501404160

Wonder if it's going to be another tittyge, they're getting rather decent at it nowadays.

>>13684328
> My Japanese is not that good and this is about one of the few VN I can read without assistance.
Calling games meme games is a common shitpost, just ignore it.

But what you just said is stupid. Pretty much all games are similar difficulty. If you can read that you can read 90% of what comes out.

>>13684849
>Pretty much all games are similar difficulty. If you can read that you can read 90% of what comes out.
You don't seriously believe that do you? Not every VN is written the same, and many use more complex sentence structure, a wider vocabulary, unusual words. Saying most of VNs are similar in difficulty is silly.

>>13684849
Unisonshift Blossom games are actually very lenient in their kanji usage, and use a lot of furigana for silly things. It's like the Blossom branch simplifies their writing on purpose to make them feel more fairytale-like.

>>13684888
>Not every VN is written the same
No, but most are pretty close

>>13684896
Furigana aren't helpful for beginners.

>>13684923
What part of "complex sentence structure, a wider vocabulary, and unusual words" did you not get? There's plenty of stuff out there that's too hard for a beginner to tackle, if your Japanese is good enough to read a Unisonshift Blossom game that certainly doesn't mean you're ready to pick up anything that interests you

>>13684942
Why is 90% != 100% so hard to grasp for you?

Go play a Clochette game and explain why it's far harder than those games.

>>13684969
Well it depends on what you read I guess. I'm the guy you originally replied to and everything I have on my computer is harder to read than 時計仕掛け. Some to the point where I have to look up things in every sentence.

>>13684969
Even if that 90% figure is about right, that's 90% of all games that exist, but not all games worth playing.

>>13684988
> that's 90% of all games that exist, but not all games worth playing.
Well if you mainly like moege it's probably more than 90%, but if you like chuuni battles then okay that's true.

Still, the whole "recommended beginner VN" charts started a whole generation of pussies who can't handle a little bit of challenge. They should go read the IM series as their second or third VN and learn to man up.

>>13685002
I do agree that a vast majority of all VNs that exist simply aren't difficult enough to be unplayable, regardless of how bad at Japanese you are. The issue is more whether people have the patience to slowly work through something more challenging.
Very few things are impossible to read through.

>>13685014
If you have to slog through and look up a million words chances are you're not going to enjoy it much, you should probably get to the point where you can read it without much trouble if you really want to get something out of it.

>>13685044
Obviously. I was just pointing out that it's still possible (but not necessarily fun).

>>13685047
I would argue that if you're not enjoying it then it may as well be not possible

>>13685057
Agreed. The thing is, few things are impossible to read for the unskilled. Therefore, the only way someone can know whether they can handle a VN is if they try it. So asking for recommendations in a difficulty sense tends to pretty useless.

no new thread ;((

>>13683857
>Get the DVD edition from Baidu and then follow.
Can you provide a link for this? I've tried searching and can't find it.

>>13685168
Well shit, now I can't find it either.

It was this long thread a Chinese site (not sure if right on Baidu or somewhere else, the download links lead 100% to Baidu) and it had many more obscure VNs, and Sorechiru was one of them. I found it why looking for some other VN.

>>13685168
>>13685207
Tried searching more, this is most likely it.
http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=470131&uk=1396098369
Pass :qxj9