/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>13601437
I want to owe Mamizou so much money that she makes me do lewd things for her to settle the debt.

>>13601437
>overwhelmed by the work
Nah, it's finding cause to give a fuck

Closing in on release date, how exciting

I should probably make 1 or 2 other backgrounds, but I'm trying to make all the patterns not-unacceptable by my standards

If you can tell me which patterns are slow and how shit it runs on phones it'll help, it usually runs alright on my HTC m8 but it chugged at certain points and I had to make adjustments

Windows EXE
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9HAldnymhn2TnlxLUFEcDR4c1E/view?usp=sharing

Android APK
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9HAldnymhn2NFJQY3BmX2NFMjQ&authuser=0

>>13602327
What happened to your youmu game? It looked cool

>>13602327
shouldn't sanae's sprite be under the bullets?

>>13602408
I couldn't bring myself to work on it anymore, after such a long period of keeping my hands off it. I figured if there was anything new I wanted to try, just start over

>>13602419
Hadn't thought of that

Platform game checklist update.

anon who is learning how to sprite VX style here, after koishi I am trying to do miko but I can't get her headphones right, any tips?

>>13603554
Raise them a bit and maybe make the headphones a brighter purple.

>>13603616
better?

>>13603767
Yeah, I think that's actually pretty good.

>>13602520
What game is this?

>>13604964
>soma
my guess is the castlevania one

>>13602520
if you can't even implement a dash attack in your game
just quit

>>13605085
The issue is making it similar to the game I am referencing, not making a dash attack.
Fixing it probably won't take very long but I'm working on other stuff at the moment.

>>13603767
>>13604163
Are there really no TD sprites out there?
If there aren't any I can do some.

>>13601437
are there more kasen sprite angles apart from the front one?

Decided to start taking apart pieces of Touhou Crossing, so that I could use them to make something else. So I figured I might as well release them if anyone else want to use them. They are all Game Maker extensions. I'm still working on a few more.

Characters: https://www.mediafire.com/?4fznrhm9cbwx9er
All the sprites for each NPC, Shanghai, the five different fairies, and Renko and Maribel.

Clock: https://www.mediafire.com/?4fznrhm9cbwx9er
The clock in Touhou Crossing. Use clock_display to toggle its visibility. Read the script in the Create Event for more information.

Expressions: https://www.mediafire.com/?4fznrhm9cbwx9er
The sprites for expressions as well a script to show them on top of characters.

Decided to start taking apart pieces of Touhou Crossing, so that I could use them to make something else. So I figured I might as well release them if anyone else want to use them. They are all Game Maker extensions. I'm still working on a few more.

Characters: http://www.mediafire.com/download/4fznrhm9cbwx9er/TouhouCrossing-Characters.gmez
All the sprites for each NPC, Shanghai, the five different fairies, and Renko and Maribel.

Clock: http://www.mediafire.com/download/v731773764v1xtj/TouhouCrossing-Clock.gmez
The clock in Touhou Crossing. Use clock_display to toggle its visibility. Read the script in the Create Event for more information.

Expressions: http://www.mediafire.com/download/aa5u7z53oy4k9b9/TouhouCrossing-Expressions.gmez
The sprites for expressions as well a script to show them on top of characters.

>>13605468
done, I'll try to make futo now.

>>13607422
Good show, you have earned a commendation from me.

definitely feels better when playing with a real n64 controller. turns out chrome's gamepad api is a little different from firefox, which doesn't like my screen capture soft hence the framerate drop. star fox 64 appears to use huge bullets and a short fov to help players actually hit shit.

>>13601437
>d/ and /tg/ confirmed for being better at making game than us.
Are the games they made nice?

>>13607422
futo's hat is a fucking bitch does anyone have a good reference of her hat or I'm making her without hat.

>>13619521
Draw a black thimble.

Draw white crosses.

Tadaa~

>>13619553
this is taking forever

>>13620792
Are you drawing for a 320x200 max-resolution game? Seriously, I would never bother with a game that has 32px sprites in 2015. It's extremely disrespectful to expect me to deal with that shit on a 1080p screen. As if my eyesight wasn't bad enough already.

>>13620837
drawing basic 32x32 sprites is the best for original designs since rescaling them for bigger games is relatively easy, hard as shit if you try to do it backwards.

>>13620841
Our sprite artists are saying the exact opposite. Scaling them down is easy, just resize the picture and touch up a few details, but scaling them up often requires a complete redraw unless you expect it to look like shit due to missing details.

>>13620849
oh well I don't know who are your sprites artist I'm just finishing touhou VX style sprites, those are 32x32.
I have pretty much every character except TD ones, so I'm making them myself and learning how to draw in the process to do harder things in the future.

So did the anon making the touhou dominions ever release his mod?

>>13620792
That's actually pretty cute.

Playing touhoumon and I just got the HM for Cut but I can't teach to anyone. I've caught all the ones I could find and now I'm stuck at Vermilion. For some reason cut is steel and I checked the wiki and it says it should be normal.

any /jp/ danmakufu out there?

>>13628464
Funny, seems like the thing I'd most expect and yet I've never seen it here

>>13628464
>>13629736
I don't want to have to fix everyone's problems and errors

>>13629776
Why would you have to do any of that?

>>13629776
>>13629736
>>13629776
considering they are fun and not ridiculously hard to create.
I wonder why.

So is Touhou Crossing confirmed dead?

>>13634013
I would pitch in but I have no idea what animal crossing was about

>>13636310
It's all about social bounding when you think about it.
This is why I can't really help him, a shut-in like me have like no valid experience whatsoever.

>>13636310
Animal Crossing is basically just find shit to sell for money, ugrade your house, find things for your house, and chill with whoever is in your town. Punchy a best when it comes to chilling.

How good would Javascript be for making a simple multiplayer Touhou game? I was thinking about making a game where you can hang around Gensokyo locations with 2hu avatars and play simple minigames together. Maybe something like Habbo hotel.

>>13641535
Haven't used java for games so I wouldn't know, but friends of mine who used java for games ended up regretting it because how the language works or something like that.

>>13641589
Java or javascript?

>>13629776
>>13629736
okay I'm going to make one, I also want you to fix my problems If they happen to appear.

>>13641628
Probably Java. Game libraries and complex graphics in general in Java get really awkward. Javascript has a number of good libraries and gets to make use of HTML5 canvas, so even if it's shitty to optimize it's still easy to get into.

>>13641793
ok

>>13634013
I've been experimenting with a new game engine called Godot and have remade a few things already

>>13615092
I think /d/ made a few lewd games. Probably good if you want to fap, but nothing transcendant.
/tg/ made the chapter master game where you save mankind from damnation by killing everyone.

OP coulda also talked about /a/ and Katawa Shoujo.

>>13642588
>I've been experimenting with a new game engine called Godot
So we're going to wait our entire lives.

>>13622101
He released an MA alpha with Byakuren as a pretender.

>>13641535
Each time I'm thinking of making a multiplayer game I can't help but fear that it'll just be used by the few fake /jp/ and other meme spammers.

>>13644024
>worrying about what morons will do
You'll never do it anything at this rate.
>"noooooo I want to make a game but I'm afraid morons will play it"
>"noooooo I want to go outside but there are already so many assholes outside"
>"noooooo I want to live but I'm afraid of meeting a spammer if I keep on living"
>"noooooo I'm sure Heaven is filled with vegans, I don't want to meet them"
>"noooooo I don't want to go to Hell, I'm sure Saddam will do horrible things to my pooper"

>>13647499
You should be supporting the /jp/ insecure devs, not bullying them.

>>13651201
That is supporting. People need to get out of the mental block of worrying about trivial bullshit; all it does it prevent you from working on anything at all. It's like people trying to learn how to draw that are too worried about their drawings looking like shit for years, except this is even more pointless than that because their drawings will actually look like shit for years, while these worries are more or less unfounded and you shouldn't even care. Why does it matter whether or not your multiplayer game could be taken over by spammers? The point is that you made the game and people are at least playing it. Even if people don't like it, then whatever, note what you did wrong and take that as a learning experience.

>>13651201
If you support them too much, they become dependent from you. Just check the Katawa Shoujo general in /vg/, they spent so much time supporting each other that they're basically circlejerking, being unable to stand alone.

>>13651201

You should know that the /jp/ devs can take a chewing and be better for it. Touhou Crossing and Suika Fortress Anons have been roughed up a bit and aren't cracked in the slightest.

>>13641535
SHRINE'S CLOSED

>>13651597
I've been roughened up?

>>13652095
Shut up and get back to work faggot, it's almost time for your daily whipping by the 300lbs local pimp.

>>13652213
Some edgy people in here just don't know how to take it easy.

>>13652323
I work on Touhou Crossing because I want a game to take it easy

>>13653008
How's the progress going on Unity?

>>13653106
I gave up on Unity because it struggles to do 2D, pixel-perfect things

>>13653139
It's not but I won't argue, know of an artist who said the same thing. That's too bad, I guess.

>>13653196
I think I've argued with you before, but I ended up finding another engine like Unity, but better equipped for 2D. See >>13642588.

>>13653201
>I think I've argued with you before
Probably not since I never did it here.
Anyway the engine is just a tool so if you're comfortable with godot then it's all good.

Still don't have a clear idea or sprites to think of a 2hu game.

>>13653222
Well someone else did before. But you're right, this isn't the place for engine arguments. I just couldn't find myself comfortable with Unity.

Check the OP for sprites. There's lots of 2hu sprites to work with. And you can use art from other games as well.

>>13653238
Yeah most of them are for rpgs or vn and I didn't really plan to make that type of game, I thought it'd be better to just try some action/platformer, or a touhou-crossing like but you're already on it.

I should probably try to look around again at all the fake gameshots but can't find them anymore, besides they were never clear about whether you can use the sprites or not.

Which might explain why we'll never get a Paper Cirno

>>13653269
>Yeah most of them are for rpgs or vn and I didn't really plan to make that type of game
You can be creative with them. Like the side animations can be used for platformers.

>or a touhou-crossing like but you're already on it.
You can still give it a shot. You'll probably do things pretty differently from me.

>I should probably try to look around again at all the fake gameshots
There was an anon a while back making a game based on pic related, using the sprites from it. In Unity too!

>besides they were never clear about whether you can use the sprites or not.
I've stopped caring about that. It's better to have something than not.

>Which might explain why we'll never get a Paper Cirno
;_;

>>13653312
>There was an anon a while back making a game based on pic related,
That was me.

Drop it at some point because I really want a smooth movements, impossible due to the size and mismatch of the sprites. Tried to mix it with some 3D but lost the charm of the picture.

Huh, could probably try to just double the size of the tiles. Maybe I'll give it a shot later since I've got free time again.

>>13653347
I was wondering where you went. You just disappeared and it was sad to see your game stop since it was cute. You should pick it back up or post the code so others can work with it.

sakuya dash where?

>>13653347
>mismatch
I don't really see any mismatch; could you elaborate?

>>13653596
Need to repair my laptop though.

>>13653979
It already exists anon.

>>13655697
Inconsistency. Some tiles are larger than the others on the grid for example, but you only get to see that once you start working on a pixel level.

>>13655697
Actually, discard what I said.

Tried to understand the artist logic rather than looking at the tiles mathematically, with some offsets they fit perfectly. He probably just did some modifications here and there at the end.

>>13655984
Yeah, I was wondering about that. It only looks like the tiles have dynamic heights, so they'll look off if you try to overlay patches from the image onto other patches.

It actually works very well following the artist's logic. Do you have any difficulties in assessing the heights in here?

Also, rather than trying to implement beforehand lots of things that I'll never finish, I'm thinking first of just giving /jp/ the possibility to work around and place stuff. Only then with some feedback we should think of what to add.

My dropbox doesn't work anymore with the unity web so if anyone knows where I could host it just tell me.

>>13657192
Yay, you're back!

>rather than trying to implement beforehand lots of things that I'll never finish
Remember to not get caught up doing boring stuff and getting bored. I like GML/GDScript more than C# because it's worse. I don't get obsessed with stuff like organizing design patterns or making perfect code. So if you're like me, don't fall into that trap, and just make something. And only make what you need now.

>My dropbox doesn't work anymore with the unity web so if anyone knows where I could host it just tell me.
Why can't you just put it in your public folder? Like: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8933990/Notes/SplosionTest/WebPlayer.html (not me, just an example I found)

I'm pretty sure another anon here was doing that with his Youmu shmup.

>>13657623
>boring stuff
I usually don't get bored doing code stuff so it's fine, what bores me is working on sprites or anything that is art-related.

My dropbox account is old and from what I've read the folders are not labeled as public for them, probably for security reasons.
I've tried it already, basically when you give a link dropbox secures the folder by not making it public, meaning that the webplayer can't find the data file.
In the worst case I'll just give a link to a PC build.

>>13657670
You have a folder in your base Dropbox directory called Public and anything in that directory can be accessed with a direct link. In any other folder, you need to change privacy settings.

>>13657689
>You have a folder in your base Dropbox directory called Public
As I said anon this folder does not exist anymore for old accounts. You can only share folders with other dropbox users but nothing more.

>>13657712
Weird. My account is old and I still have it.

>>13657722
>If you would still like to enable your Public folder, you must be a Dropbox Pro or Dropbox for Business user. Currently only Pro and Business users may enable Public folders from this page.

>>13657773
That's retarded. Then I guess your second best bet is something like pomf.se

>>13657623
>>13657192
I used Google Drive for the same effect

I think Unity Web is broken on chrome or something though

>>13657792
pomf is dead, dude.

>>13658147
>something like pomf.se

>>13658152
I want to remind people that it hurts

>>13643931
Ah, thanks. I read his post last thread saying he's done and he'd upload over the weekend, but that was a couple of weeks ago.

>>13658147
Never 4get

Don't have that much free time this week but worked a bit on it. This time I'll only use things from the original, no 3D additional shit.

I think I'm almost there for the simple release I talked about earlier. The big blocks on the original image are actually a big trap when you're thinking about the grid. I'm just treating them as 2 blocks and will code that visual sugar addition later if I feel like it.

>>13661418
Nice. I thought you were using the 3D shit to get around z-fighting.

>>13661453
Nah, this time I fought it fair and square.
Not going to have the smooth movement I wanted but screw that, that'll do for now.

I need ideas, I can't come up with anything that's fun and possible for someone to do alone

>>13661418
I never commented before, but I always imagined this to be a great sandbox environment. Probably not the direction you want to take it, but seeing the original picture made me think of a interactive world filled with dialogue and quests and environments.

>>13663267
Doing things alone is difficult.

I'd like to make pic related (with cuter sprites) but first I need to learn AI scripting.

>>13665481
I'll become ZUN, you'll see.
But first I need an idea so I can actually start

>>13665534
>>13663267
Make a touhou version of this
http://www.thewayoftheninja.org/nv2.html

>>13665534
1MA-ing sure gave me huge respect for ZUNs ability. Big shoes you've got to fill

>>13665534
Touhou Harvest Moon

>>13665534
something with spellcards

>>13665534
Just make something starring your favourite 2hu.

>>13657192
>>13657670
>>13661418
Teach me how to use Unity for 2D

MA Gensokyo 0.21
I added some stuff. Sorry for the delay, I was teaching swim lessons and teaching physical therapy
https://www.mediafire.com/?y3pn1s6fncz87t6

Back testing things after a long period of...not testing things, which shows with the amount of errors that popped up upon generating a test world, among them one that made yukkureimus and sukusuku hakutakus into sentient civilized races.

Anyway, introducing The Factory, with focus specifically the parts that are most likely to be sent into your fortress. Early in the game, you might be unlucky enough to have one of their poachers sent in to steal your children (sadly one cannot specify them to steal yukkuri instead); though not too challanging for the Suika assuming you have an actual soldier on hand (though don't underestimate them; they're far stronger then most of their minions sans the currently unimplemented redcaps), a poacher can easily kill a fairy in single combat; if he's feeling particularly like a dick, he might make it his priority to beat and otherwise bully your population for their lack of fairy children.

Late in the game, they'll send in their actual security to mop up the threat your fortress has become to their interests: these forces can usually be divided into incompetent guards which are armed with bludgeons and would much rather preform brutality on your civilians and livestock (which they do well) then face combat against your hopefully by then seasoned army, and the not so comical paramilitary organization- er, "private security officals", armed to the brim with high-powered rifles as well as aided by highly lethal (or at least difficult to kill) security robots turned offensive; the highest-ranked will have agumentations in order to keep themselves up to pace with the various horrors Gensokyo has thrown at them prior to focusing on you.

>>13674852

On topic of the test world, running it 2010 years led it to ending on an interesting scenario:

One of the last major holdings in the world is a kappa fortress-city (you heard that right: an entire city mostly walled in, with an additional set of walls for the keep) being assaulted by all of the Factory's forces, who had captured all surrounding towns but the capital itself. Making my first character, I wandered into a scene including dozens of bakebake harrasing the last few survivors from above, while rogue robots roamed the ruins killing everything on sight in a bloody pile.

Moving onto the first town, a group of bakebake and biokuri, being led by a human sergeant were attempting to fend off a pair of night creatures who quickly overwhelmed them and quite literally tore the majority of them into many pieces. They then overran my kappa defender and ended up mangling him to death.

Second try, I make a crossbow-kappa to actually combat the threat actively assaulting the town. Even though the bakebake were practically a non-threat, with their feeble attacks deflecting off her clothing, and died after a direct hit to their bodies, they were so numerous that she actually ran out of bolts before they all fell; nevertheless, the main horde seemed to had been routed as they ran away in fear. It was there that I did not notice a hopper sneaking behind and hastily clamping her head off; as a side note, I think I'm going to give kappa some sort of optical camoflauge as a special ability.

Third adventurer was a robot maid; this time starting in the dark fortress the Human Village had been forced to retreat into after the various monsters released by their Outside counterparts made most areas unlivable; things were mostly deathly silent as I wandered through towns that I at first thought were abandoned until I saw that the houses all flashed white: turns out synth rebels took over the Human Village and were using it as a factory for more deadly robots.

>>13674899

I barely manage to make it out in one piece as a group of sawteeth (living circular saws) attempted to quarter me, with a mobile barrel vacume firing some gunk in my general direction. As I flee off into the night, I think I'm safe, until I find myself smack dab in the middle of their HQ: the central AI was sitting in the centre of a complex consisting of a dozen tents of varying sizes, with hordes of angry robots occupying each. A wave of Terminators intercepts me, firing wave after wave of plasma-flavored danmaku as my own piddly laser just bounces off of them: they eventually overwhelm my poor VIVIY expy and crush her under their girth.

Which leads us to Cirno: spawn into same wartorn Kappa town, loot it for equipment (a bit hard as none of their clothing fits), daringly pass by Factory sentry robots and experiments, and face a Tschigumo; good to see that youkai still occur as well, even if their current bestiary is somewhat thin. Engage in honorable ice fairy combat, which translates to blasting it with perfect freeze and flying out of its reach, watching as it freezes to death in a most agonizing manner before its body disintegrates entirely: DF ice is a nasty. Find a kappa town that is being marauded by more bakebake as well as a pair of giant biokuri vampires; decide it to be a lovely place to settle for the time being.

Results are looking promissing; just need to add more immediately Touhou-identifiable stuff as well as youkai types. A part of me also wants to promote Bakebake into the sole playable antagonist? race, as using debug mode to play one led to fun when it got so tired from flying fast that it fell to the ground and exploded violently.

>>13674640
Nice job.

Toho Pinball when?

>>13675548
You've gotta step up to make sure the games you want get made, anon. No sitting around waiting for hand-outs! Become a game maker today!

>>13674113
Huh? You just use sprites and do stuff?
Just don't forget to do your maths for the camera if you want everything to be pixel perfect.

>>13676414
I really would like to give Unity a try for 2D. Godot is too immature and incomplete, so I'm leaning towards going back to GameMaker. I really would like to give Unity 2D a try, but I could just never get the feel for 2D in Unity.

>Just don't forget to do your maths for the camera if you want everything to be pixel perfect.
What do you mean?

>>13676475
One major reason that people still dislike Unity exit the whole 'bloated' drama for 2D is the fact that it's not "pixel perfect" by default, or, that it doesn't do correctly by default 2D stuff.

Since you're working with a 3D engine, you have for example to understand how the orthographic works, take into consideration the scale factor of your sprites and then have a camera with the appropriate size to be able to "view" a pixel perfect world.
But then again the fact that you're viewing it like that can't hide the fact that it's a 3D world behind, so you have to make sure that your camera moves correctly without reaching float values with too much decimals or you might see the infamous tearing or white/black space between tiles for example.

Anyway the thing is that you can do 2D with Unity fine but only if you're comfortable with their 3D engine first, and even when that's the case there are still some native things that I find stupid to work with for 3D like stupid animation system incompatible with manual offsets.
The thing is, when you use GameMaker for example, you just slap your sprites, do some code and it works. Plus GM had all the tools needed to work with sprites and create animations with those goddamn offsets (yes, I'll keep on ranting about that)

>>13676510
I think I'll just stick with GameMaker

Hi /jp/ i recently made a 2hu fan game, and i just learned that these threads exist, i built the game completely from literally scratch and since we all like 2hu here and i'm looking for the target audience, can i drop my project here and discuss with you ?

>>13678148
Holy shit.

whats wrong anon?,

I just learned about the existence of these threads, sadly a bit too late since my game is already finished but i wonder if i can still share it here.

and maybe add improvements and such

>>13678148
if you are okay with bullying, go ahead.

>>1367821
how so?
aint that allowed here orsomething?

>>13678204
Always interested to see /jp/ work, give it here friend!

>>13665534
>>13663267
Recreate the entire touhou games in RPG maker.

>>13678204
I'm more than interested of seeing it.

>>13678204
Okay then post it already holy fuck.

>>13678357
>>13679578

The suspense is killing us!

>>13680139
kek

I bet it's Sekiwriter. He came here because people started to write a story.

>>13680151
i'm actually not, kek

>>13678173
>>13678213
>>13678357
>>13678750
>>13679578
>>13680139

Allright, so my game is called SkyRush, you play as Marisa flying on her broom, trying to evade a ton of obstacles. Its basically an arcade survival thing where u try to get the highest amount of points.

here's the gameplay trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WypqxUzYPaI

its available for pc as pay what you want

and theres a Free version for android if you wanna give it a go

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.willowandstork.SkyRushlite

I'm really curious what you guys think of it!

>>13601437
Why don't any of you have this guy's dedication? >>13679706

>>13674640
You should post this in Steam community or something. I think Dom has a forum too, that would make things a little easier, plus you could put a changelog.

>>13680291
You need a cooler name.

Or at least a cooler logo.

Tried the free phone version. So it's basically a flappy bird clone with added danmaku. Nothing too special, but seems like a fun time waster.

>>13680291
No one is going to pay for a 2hu game

>>13680546
thanks for the oppinion anon!

>>13680587

Sure they are; but I think it needs more content! Also, do the stages get any different the further you get in or something?

>>13680375

>>13680587
>>13680291
>>13680464

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Wiki:Copyrights
>Restrictions on derivative works
>I'd like to place the following restrictions on all
derivative works, regardless of whether they're commercial or independent:
>[...]
>Sale of software via the App Store, Android Market, etc. (for commercial
parties, please get in contact with me)
>Sale of works in channels that are further reaching than the distribution channels
used by the original works. The original works are primarily sold in general doujin
channels. So, please refrain from using download sales sites primarily oriented for
overseas customers, etc.

>If possible, please attribute us. (recommended)
>If possible, please include our contact information in the colophon. (recommended)
>Please do not mistake the names of the games or the characters.

>>13681836
SkyRush dev here,
thank you for linking that anon.

Will definitely look closer into that

For the most part ZUN is okay with people making money from fanworks as long as they're not distributed in ways/places where they could be mistaken for official Touhou media by outsiders.
Basically if you're distributing stuff through your own website, through a Touhou fansite, or through a medium dedicated to fanworks (such as an Artist's Alley at a con, or nowadays Playism) then it should be fine, but you should still include a "do not own" disclaimer at the start (and apologise in advance that the characters and tone differ from canon, because everyone in Japan seems to do that).

ZUN also tends to frown on people releasing stuff with "Touhou" in the title, because it's confusing to newcomers. "Gensou" is the most popular alternative.

>>13682180
I feel like I've only ever seen him request that people refrain from titles that follow the "Touhou Something - Vaguely Poetic Description" pattern.

>>13682191
Yeah it's not a hard-and-fast rule; he's even let through some stuff in that format if it's in an unusual medium or something (e.g. if this thread was titled, say, "Touhou Yotsuba ~ Joy of Admirable Derivation" then I doubt he'd give a shit).

Where's that chapter of the manga where Reimu says that Gensokyo's most important rules were never formalised because then people would look for loopholes?

>>13680291
>Free version for android
Yeah unfortunately that's not going to fly very well. Pay-what-you-want as a PC download is fine as long as it isn't hosted on massive platforms (hosting on a personal website or something is always ideal, really), but using app stores to distribute content isn't allowed mostly because it is such a massive platform. If you really wanted to distribute the app for Android you can (again) have the package uploaded personally somewhere; that's totally fine.

Really Touhou is just not a good option for building off of for the purpose of any kind of "professional" indie development. Trying to make profits (even if meager), or surfing off of Touhou's popularity to expand your own influence in a professional sense isn't met too kindly, especially when ZUN already has such lax restrictions. It should be treated as just another IP in this sense. This goes to everyone in the thread, if others weren't really aware of this stuff.

>>13682191
>>13682228
One major recent example of this is the currently-in-dev game by MyACG (a chinese group, the guys who made Defense of the Shrine), where they initially had 东方幻想乡 (Touhou Gensoukyou) as part of the title, and embarassingly had to change it because they weren't aware that it was a faux-pas.

>>13682180
>For the most part ZUN is okay with people making money from fanworks
Just a bit of correction/elaboration here; "making money" in this context is not a universal thing, where either things "make money" or they don't. Specifically what's encouraged is receiving compensation for a product, but only in the sense that these funds recover things like production costs and perhaps funding future works. When you start acting for the purpose of gaining money over spreading your fanwork to other fans, that's a commercial endeavour and generally isn't accepted, so the boundary for what's considered commercial is often more conservative than liberal. The transition for talented people to go from making fanworks to developing commercial products as an indie brand is often laudable, but you can't be using others' IP to take that step.

>>13682273

PSN and Ninty's E-Shop are technically fair game if you can contact ZUN about it first; but you'd need to impress him in some way to get the greenlight, as the stuff that get that blessing are Soku-tier.

Still, what you're saying is otherwise mostly correct: the reason ZUN has those restrictions in the first place is because of the legal headaches third party commercial stuff give him when they're released, which takes him away from making pretty musics.

>>13682361
>if you can contact ZUN about it first
Well yeah. Everything here is prefaced with the clause that if ZUN says it's okay then go for it.

>>13682273
To be frank, no offense to the flappy clone guy above but I'm surprised that we're talking about money considering the quality of the games we barely have to boot.

>>13682371

It's all just theoretical in case one of us were ever to actually complete something of worth.

>>13682371
The restrictions are blanket to prevent problematic things from springing up in the first place. Flappy Bird was shit itself and yet the creator is drowning in cash from ad money; you can't really make the argument that quality and profits are necessarily related anyways. Regardless it isn't like it's "okay" just because they aren't making "much" money; that isn't the point.

>>13680291
What the hell? I played an exact game like this made by a /jp/sie before. It was a PC XNA game, don't have the download anymore.

Is that you?

>>13680291
>flappy marisa
>breaking the guidelines
You cannot be serious.

>>13682364
well, aren't there a crapton of 2hu games anyway, i cant believe every one of those contacted ZUN about it for permission, just saying and wondering. And isnt that the whole idea of the touhou games being open and all?


>>13684107
thats odd though, no it wasnt me, its not made in XNA either though

thanks for the thoughts and replies.
skyrush dev here,

>>13684199
There are are like a thousand free Japanese Touhou apps in various app stores, if ZUN cared even slightly about those they'd all be gone.

If the PC version is actually sold (even with a $0 option) through a commercial site rather than just "donate me X dollars if you liked this game" that would be a problem though.

>>13684382
skyrush dev here.
that was my thought,

are you sure though?
i mean there are even apps on the appstore i.e. an alarm clock which they ask 6 freakin bucks for

i offer a free functional game, and one without ads for a small fee basically on an "indie dev site"

>>13684290
>well, aren't there a crapton of 2hu games anyway, i cant believe every one of those contacted ZUN about it for permission, just saying and wondering. And isnt that the whole idea of the touhou games being open and all?

Read http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Wiki:Copyrights - Touhou is a doujin work, and you explicitly don't need ZUN's permission to make other doujin works based on it. It's only an issue if you're distributing stuff through mainstream channels.

>>13684793
Most IP owners take the same view, really. It's just that Team Shanghai Alice is a one-man operation, so it's easier for him to be consistent about it.

The creators of Magical Battle Arena didn't ask permission for any of their stuff...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXvaIYmpEMk
...and they never ran into any lawsuits, despite the large number of IPs involved. That's because it was released solely through doujin channels (e.g. Comiket) where all the customers are existing fans of the franchises in question, and no confusion can ensue.

They've released similar games on Steam which use original characters, but MBA will never be released there because it's a mainstream channel.

>>13661418 here
This game is cursed, I'm being thrown out of my current living place and don't know where the hell I'll stay in the streets. I have 7 days left to pack so I'll just try to give you the source if I can connect my pc to some internet point, currently using a relay, but can't promise anything.

It was fun while it lasted /jp/.

>>13685065
I wish I could house and feed a /jp/sie making cool games.

>>13684517
I'm fairly sure no revenue stream is allowed in games that are distributed through the app store or other non-doujin distribution channels (to be honest, I don't think it's even "allowed", everybody just ignores when free it because it's the only way to distribute phone games given that most people won't be installing apks.)

You could ask ZUN's friend/assistant about it on twitter, he speaks English.

>>13685065
Holy shit mane, sorry to hear that.
Best of luck to you

>>13685065
Good luck, anon.

>>13685065
Well shit.
Good luck, anon. Hang in there.

>>13685065
hang tight man, you'll get through it

I keep getting error in pic related every time i try to launch gensou shoujo taisen kou. I played up to Chapter 9 before this started to happen. Does anyone know how to fix it?

Searched the web for help but couldn't find a solution, thus i turn to you, /jp/.

>>13687179
>GameMaker
Really? That's neat.

Can't help. Just found that interesting.

>>13687179
Error persisted trough reinstalling the game. But a simple PC reboot seems to have fixed it. Damn computers and their sorcery.

>>13684793
>other doujin works
The important thing is whether or not people understand what doujin work even is.

>>13684382
There being tons of infringing content on app stores isn't reason to say that more infringing content is okay. We should be respectful of other content creators, not dump all over the already-lax permissions granted just because you can get away with it. It isn't like people are going to harass someone to take down a tiny app, but if you're aware you shouldn't and care even slightly, then don't put it up.

>>13684290
>well, aren't there a crapton of 2hu games anyway, i cant believe every one of those contacted ZUN about it for permission
Like I said in the previous post, you're fine by default if you aren't doing anything commercial or otherwise disallowed. You don't need to ask for permission to do anything unless it's breaking an existing rule, you aren't sure and want to confirm, or if you're trying to establish a business relationship. That's how the community thrives, but only because nearly every creator follows the given guidelines.

App stores are massive non-doujin distribution channels and so are often no-go, and generally are met with disapproval regardless. In-game ads are also entirely a profit mechanism, and are often seen as worse than just selling it for a buck or whatever. Asking people to pay a little for a product is more honest than pushing it as free yet still profiting, is more or less the idea. Recommended is just publishing the apk yourself (maybe similarly to the PC version?), but again you probably won't get divine retribution or whatever from putting it on a store.

>>13684382
Saijee please.

>>13685065
Holy shit. Finding a new place to live is priority number one, mate. Forget the game, focus on surviving.

>>13687795
>There being tons of infringing content on app stores isn't reason to say that more infringing content is okay.
If it's free (and doesn't make ad money) I don't see how it's any different from an indexed list of downloads. The prohibition seems to be on sales as opposed to mere distribution or else we couldn't even distribute them here on 4chan.

Somebody who knows more Japanese than me should tell me if 販売 doesn't think what I think it means, though.

>>13688576
>Saijee please.
Epic.

Just shut up about it and it will be fine.

>>13685065
Original requester here, best of luck to you Anon. I wish I could help but alas I'm a NEET. I swear I didn't put any curse on it.

>>13685065
Shit, that sounds horrible, good luck, be safe please.

>>13688599
>If it's free (and doesn't make ad money) I don't see how it's any different from an indexed list of downloads. The prohibition seems to be on sales as opposed to mere distribution or else we couldn't even distribute them here on 4chan.
The app store thing had two problems though, only one was about commercial activity. The other is that similarly to Steam, it's a massive distribution platform that isn't geared towards doujin works. Western fans probably find it a weirder restriction due to the smushing of "indie" and "doujin" ideas, but it mostly has to do with keeping a handle on his IP within the constraints of doujin culture, the mainstream image of what the original series is, and perhaps more generally toeing the line of "doujin" being to make works for the enjoyment of your peers.

Whatever the reasons, mass distribution outside of doujin-centric places needs permission. The App Store and the Android Market are listed explicitly as restricted, whether you're a doujin author or a company. Distribution on 4chan wouldn't really qualify due to the size of the audience and who they are; an indexed list of downloads is also very likely geared towards peers looking for these sorts of things. See the japanese Danmakufu wiki, for example.

This make it any clearer? Again, I'm not here to demonize or anything.

>>13688695
The App Store and Android Market are restricted for sales, but it's not clear as written (or at least I don't find it clear as written) whether they're restricted as methods of distribution. I can certainly agree with the notion that they should be off-limits but has ZUN actually written it down anywhere?

>>13688599
>The prohibition seems to be on sales as opposed to mere distribution or else we couldn't even distribute them here on 4chan.
>>13688716
>The App Store and Android Market are restricted for sales, but it's not clear as written (or at least I don't find it clear as written) whether they're restricted as methods of distribution.

The distribution is the only part ZUN really cares about. Selling stuff is fine, as long as you're just trying to recoup costs rather than make a lot of money.

The main issue is whether you're distributing your work to people unfamiliar with Touhou. A /jp/ thread with "2hu" in the title is definitely fine.

>>13688716
>The App Store and Android Market are restricted for sales, but it's not clear as written (or at least I don't find it clear as written) whether they're restricted as methods of distribution
They fall under the category of mass distribution.

>同人サークル以外の企業による二次創作、また二次創作作品を同人ショップ以外の一般流通で配布したい場合は、必ず私の許可を取るようにお願い致します。
"In the case of doing business with derivative works outside of doujin circles, or if you want to mass-distribute derivative works outside of doujin shops, you must always receive my permission." 一般流通で配布する being the relevant part here, which is like "distributing by circulating to everyone" or "distributing to a general audience". This is meant to cover the sense of producing works for people that aren't your peers (fans of the same stuff, etc). "Peers" is pretty lenient, considering basically anyone interested in doujin works would qualify, but putting it in a spot where it's available for everyone to see and grab is seen to be too far-reaching.

>>13688900
>Selling stuff is fine, as long as you're just trying to recoup costs rather than make a lot of money.
> A /jp/ thread with "2hu" in the title is definitely fine.
So this means I can have fun developing 2hu fangames and get some money by selling them to /jp/sies? I wonder if I can make enough money to buy some games

>>13691246
/jp/sies aren't going to buy anything, they'll just pirate it

Where do I learn all about the touhou lore and characters so I can pretend I'm not a secondary? Most of my knowledge comes from doujins and /jp/

>>13691808
The games.

>>13691808
The wiki for basic stuff. The official mangas.
And of course the games.

>>13691808
>>13691874

Specifically the side games, which usually have a somewhat larger focus on story then the major games, as well as THs 2-9 to better explain some of the finer details of the lore (3 skippable, and 2 only really needs to be played up to Marisa if you can't stand its archaic mechanics): the other games don't really reveal as much plot beyond what you can read from their manuals, though they do reveal good chunks of the character's personalities, which lots of primaries manage to get wrong even.

>>13691327
Slander. I bought Higurashi legit.

Are there any writers here? I'm thinking of making a strategy game (FE style, I guess) and I'd like to know if other people here would be able to help me write/make characters.

>>13706116
That's not complicated.
I can lend a hand but nothing more for now.

>>13706116

That depends on the bend. I have a couple old plots that I've really been wanting to use and have taken the aspects I could salvage from into my current project, but even then I can't well use them the way my current game is turning out, so I would be glad to dump them.

>>13708050
I already have the rough idea of the plot made, its mostly figuring out how everything will go through and adding in supporting characters.

>>13709148
Can you actually code the game though?

>>13709156
With help from templates people have made previously, probably.

>>13710096
That's a good start. Since you're doing it in GameMaker, I may be able to give help as well.

I shall post something by the end of the week.
Stay tuned!

Anybody here work with Multimedia Fusion 2 or even Fusion in general? It's used for making 2D games and I'd like to try my hand at making a danmaku game with MMF2 but I'm not sure how hard it is

>>13710452
I'm gonna hold you to this

Don't disappoint me anon

>>13710452
More lies.

>>13716611
Patience anon, it's not even the end of the week

With audio: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3877425/touhou-crossing/intro-audio.webm

>>13719062
oh damn

Alright, some Sumi sprites for the 2hu Crossing guy.

I wanted to make a cape for her as well, but that would require time that I simply do not have. Same for the pattern in her dress. But hey, it's better than nothing, and I'm sure I'll come back to this at some point, so yeah.

>>13719681
I feel you about the cape. The ones from the back are basically going to be nothing but cape and footsteps. I'll still finish these, more options are generally better.

>>13651695
Shhh I love that idea I'd play lol
>>13641535

>>13719700
Her cape was a pain. Please feel free to tell me if I fucked up somewhere and didn't notice.

>>13720154
Thanks anon. I had to adjust her shadow a bit. Her feet in the diagonal walk look a little weird though.

>>13719681
Yours looked a little too flat, sorry.

>>13720449
Yeah, her feet were weird. She has a shorter skirt than other characters, so I had to fiddle with her legs. How's this?

>>13720449
>Yours looked a little too flat, sorry.
It's OK, dude, don't worry about it. As long as Sumi is in the game, it's all right with me.

>>13720573
One more, sorry. After watching the webm, I think it'd look better to have her cape move a little when she steps diagonally.

>>13723024
Looks good

>>13719385
Reported for off topic post.
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Please read the rules before making a post. The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.

>>13710452

You guys still have the v1.01 english patch for Touhou Soccer Moushuuden? I'm stuck on 3rd match against Alice

>>13710452
>>13711428
>he never delivered

>>13730496
Looks like I'm on the wrong thread.
Where is the doujin game thread? /jp/ or /v/?

>>13731197
Yes.

>>13731197
No.

>>13731197
Maybe.

>>13710452
>more lies
I have been a fool to trust Anonymous.

>>13731197
I don't know.

>>13743984
Trust is the first step toward desillusion.

>>13750439
show us "the precious thing"

>>13751055

>>13751653
Lewd fairy!

bump

>>13756424
you gonna post progress?

>>13757714
Soon

>>13757714
Busy with Neptunia.

Is /jp/ faster than normal? Threads didn't die this fast.

>>13767180
That's basically my life right now too.

>>13757714
I've been busy with school and haven't had much time

>>13768634
Busy playing it, busy trying to make a game about it.
Sucking abysmally at both.

How is that Cirno Racing coming?

>>13772430
/prog/snake is what reminds me of the good old times.

>>13767398
It kinda seems like it. Everyone needs to take it easy and go back to being slow.

>>13757714

Suika Fortress dev here to confirm I am still around, stuck to a laptop which has slowed work down, but I'm just about ready to early release the game (bugs and all, though I've squashed all the game-breaking stuff) as soon as I add a couple more races and write the play guides for the Suika and Fairies so I don't leave you all in the darkness that is Dwarf Fortress.

The humblebundle this week has some shit on sale that you guys might be interested in.

>>13779999
I've seen that, but I'm not an artist, only a programmer, so it wouldn't benefit me much.

>>13779999
Neato! Thank you my man.

>>13772430
It's called gensou sky drift

>>13788089
And it's pretty garbagey.

"We just wanted to dick around with Unity: the Game"

I'm restarting the sinsack project. Tomorrow I'll try to give this Satori some idle and walking animations.
I'm thinking of giving her a shorter skirt too.

I was thinking of making a funny 2hu game for shits and giggles on RPG Maker VX Ace.
Give me ideas.

>>13789380
Kogasa tries to scare people (featuring Nue and Mamizo)
Mokou and Futo light shit on fire
Cirno, Sunny, Luna, and Star prank people
Shinmyoumaru has a little adventure
Choujuu Gigaku fight the other musicians of Gensokyo and try to make themselves known
Tenshi tries to cure her boredom by wandering around and messing with the residents of Gensokyo

>>13789380
Tenshi and Okuu go an a wild adventure and an ancient evil awakens

These threads would be a lot better if we stayed on topic. Let's focus on creating games instead of our personal interpretations of ZUN's copyright. There are no law school students in this thread. Only NEETs with dreams. Let's leave it that way.

i finally got the physics to work properly with arbitrary environment models. turns out i was loading the triangles wrong the whole time. and now back to chen fox 64.

>>13790460
What are you doing this in?

>>13790591
javascript/webgl. don't ask why.

ok im having way too much fun just playing around in static areas

>>13789380
Sekibanki get spanked.

>>13790671
Why?

>>13790741
What are you even doing?

>>13789993
This

>>13790460
>>13790741
Aren't MMD models in .pmx ? How did you manage to export them in a compatible format for games?

>>13797597
im loading the PMD files directly

>>13797694
That's a pretty big amount of work just to play around with js/webgl.

>>13798771
it's already included in the framework. and MMDjs is old, but surprisingly still works fine.

I want to make a 2D hack and slash /jp/

Which character would be appropriate as protagonist besides youmu?
Any ideas for a plot and what the enemies could be?

ちょっとすみません、私がそれを使ってやるゲームの素材にするだろうか。とても感谢します

>>13802067
>谢
What

>>13802064
Appropriate protagonist:
If you want characters that can hack away with weapon:
Reimu
Sariel
Momiji
Mima
Miko
Sanae

As for plot. Hack n Slash doesn't really have to have a plot, but you can always base it around the main games. Or you can make the game based around youkai from the outside world causing trouble in gensokyo after recently arriving or something.

>>13789380
2hu Harvest Moon.

>>13802064
>plot
x Youkai is bored

I need some help for Touhou Crossing. The bridge doesn't reach the end, but duplicating it makes the pillars look awkward. I'm also limited to diagonal bridges. I would like to have horizontal and vertical bridges as well. Hope someone can help out with this.

>>13808563
Extending it

>>13789380
Byakuren joins a biker gang and hassles the shit out of the Taoists.
dies as a result.
Miko takes this as the moment to return to her roots as a badass vigilante that arms the whole neighborhood to drive out the biker scum

>>13809569
*Tojiko dies as a result

>>13809574
Futo ends up dying in a fire. That she started.

>>13802064
Meira, make it about her trying to fight her way to the hakurei shrine
done.

>>13808567
>>13808563
First of all, isn't the angle wrong?
It looks like it isn't level with the shore.

>>13808563
>>13808567
A kind anon on /v/ helped me. Thank you! I fell asleep before I could thank you.

>>13811230
Additionally, there are three more things I need: a vertical bridge, a horizontal bridge, and a river water effect. You can use the pic to build the bridge for. Simply rotating the bridge doesn't work, as it causes compression to make it look blurry, so it has to be redrawn.

The other thing I need is some river water effect. Animal Island has the sea (since it's an island), but I don't think the effect will look as nice when used for rivers. I've also put the sea effect (which can be tiled together to form the ocean) as reference. I hope this helps.

Thank you, and I hope I'm not asking for a lot.