/jp/ - Otaku Culture

We already have a new thread here >>13602909

>>13602950
Troll elsewhere.

>>13602950
It's just going to get deleted soon.

>>13602959
Nah, worst case they just delete the picture. They wouldn't wipe the whole thread just for that.

>>13602908
I prefer to play evil routes first, so I get good routes last and overall aftertaste for game isn't too bitter.
Is there any other reason to not play demons first?

>>13602959
He removed untranslated from the opening post, don't give the shitposter attention

>>13602968
Putting Untranslated in the OP just causes arguments

>>13602977
and removing it just causes different ones.

Please stop replying to shitposter.

>>13602979
the problem isn't the thread title, it's the bitches who post in the threads

>>13602962
It's been a while since I played through it but from what I remember, it's not very friendly for first timers and it's made with the idea in mind that you've played at least one of the other ones. Honestly feels kind of like an extra.
I'd recommend Human-Demon-Angel if you don't want to leave it for last, but if you want to see everything you're going to have to play though each route few times anyway.

>>13603015
Will go Human-Demon-Angel then, thanks.

I've been curious about this for a while - is there any kind of scale/ratio for converting script size to something people would normally measure length in?

Many developers will say how large a script is. If that were, say, printed in standard A6 paperback format, how many pages would it be? That kind of thing.

>>13603150
You could just strip out speaker tags and other engine scripting stuff, maybe punctuation too, and check the remaining character count I guess.

I ripped the iVirgin teaser movie off the BugBug DVD.

iVirgin Teaser.wmv 27.9 MB
https://mega.co.nz/#!QVFnjTaB!-Dg6KvFSP8CenK1QKB7RA0oUTI9Qf3L9VK8_QFI5IHU

>>13603172
As a foreigner with limited/very late access to marketing material, I appreciate it.

>>13603172
>>13603223
I just noticed the chinks uploaded the DVD too, but thanks again anyways.

A bit focused on Akuyome right now during my scarce free time so that slipped through my radars.

>>13603397
What is you opinion on that game? I'm a bit interested on it.

>>13603418
Not him but here's my opinion on a certain heroine >>13599984

>>13603418
So far (still in early game stages/common route), it's not very good. The VAs sound off for their respective characters in my opinion, the writing is bland at times, and the premise is quite laughable.

Still it's an Atelier Kaguya game even though it is GassaQ, so I end up giving it a chance for the heroines.

>>13603434
Not very recomforting, but oh well.

>>13603434
>>13603447
To the backlog, then. Thanks.

>>13603150
Script size is basically a proxy for character count. Figure 2 bytes per character for SJIS.

>>13602942
what are June's release?

>>13603759
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26397736

>>13603800
Practically all nukige this month. Oh well, at least there's July.

>>13603817
What does July have besides Sakura no Uta? Although I guess even that alone is enough.

>>13603841
That and the Liar-soft game, for me.

Speaking of which, they just uploaded the OP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=131&v=vmxh_qFUdjs

>>13603800
Backlog month, then.

>>13603800
Wow I don't know what to say
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU-rwmb70ms

>>13603863
So she's Hentai Kamen wearing that one outfit from Air Gear?

i'm only interested in Love Rec. this month. god damn its a shitty month.

>>13603447
>>13603562
I will note that Iris's tune changes a little when it comes to interaction with Nero after you see a couple of her events but unless that descriptions still holds true to the point that I'm up to even if it's a tad opinionated in terms of attractiveness. (I'm not at her route yet as I'm doing her's second last)

>>13603800
Looks like I'll be grabbing only two titles this month and only because they have the Ojous

>>13603959
>but unless that
but that**

fw you can't finish anything

>>13603852
I'm really interested in their new game, partially because of the artist, who I missed in their latest titles.

>>13603026
By the way, you will have top play Angel route two times to get into extra dungeon, since the item you need to get into it has to be in your possession by the start of it and in in can't be synthetized without an item you get by the end of it.

>>13603966
iktf

I play eroge for the skies.

You guys reminded me what Atlach=Nacha is so I did some research and went to tlwiki to see what I can do to kickstart a translation project so I can finally figure out what the hell is going on.

I manage to extract the script, was able to translate a few lines (those three semesters of Japanese are starting to pay off); however....I have no idea how to edit the actual game files.

Wat do?

>>13604243
What VN is that one from?

>>13604243
Pretty. Where's that from?

>>13604243
Sca-ji draws the best skies.

>>13602942
is ソレヨリノ前奏詩 good?

>>13603863
I really like that song.

>>13604289
It's hard to run. I tried using the 2DJGame crack and it did nothing.

And the other one recommended by girlcelly was way too suspicious to my liking.

>>13604296
the crack works fine for me, I don't know what happen to you.

>>13604300
The 2DJGame one?

I tried to run it and either nothing at all happened or I just got the meaningless "This program might not be installed correctly" error screen that sometimes pops up when you finish installing and older VN or something.

What mounter did you use to mount the ISO?

>>13604310
Deamon tools pro. I used the crack I found on Anime Sharing (in b4 anime sharing a shit), it worked.

>>13604319
That not the 2DJGame one. I avoided it.

>>13604268
>>13604270
himanatsu

>>13604289
I liked it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZoX_aPcnpM
>>13604296
I can confirm the cracked worked for me too.

Speaking of minori, which of their titles are worth playing?

>>13604386
eden*, ef, Prologue, in that order.

>>13604386
i suggest 12 no Tsuki no Eve too

Hi, I'm looking for a vn that delves a lot into the "ネット" culture of image-boards?
I'm talking about for example 電車男-esque ones.

Currently on Arisa's route and she's cute and hilarious at the same time. Her voice actress is really moe too i'm in love.

>>13604461
すみれ？

Kinda maybe.

>>13604462
>Dog Food

>>13604476
Now that's an interesting story.

>>13604462
Does this game branch off early? I'm in the mood for reading good ichaicha without the usual long common route.

>>13604731
The common route is probably about the length you'd expect from a moege.

>>13603800
Sorcery Jokers, Love Love Princess and Magical Dears all got delayed

https://twitter.com/3rdEye_tubuyaki/status/606732134091390976
https://twitter.com/pencil_official/status/606748462713929728
https://twitter.com/Navel_honeybell/status/606733774957637632

>>13604788
Oh joy only 1 title this month then

>>13604794
At least *everyone* has a backlog.

>>13604731
From vndb:
>it's a brief branch route, so the writer can focus making a deep and good common route

i.e. the branches are short, the common route is long.

>>13604800
It's still disappointing.

>>13604803
>so the writer can focus making a deep and good common route
Why? Why should that even matter in a moege? Why don't writers care about individual heroine routes?

Do most eroge developers make their sole living off of eroge, or do they have to have other jobs to survive?

>>13604813
From what I've played so far, there's a reasonable amount of 1-on-1 character interactions in the common route. The route choices basically are made via messaging the heroines.

>>13604813
Not that I don't agree with you completely but they do need to at least attempt to make you interested in the heroines and it's the job of the common route to do that.

>>13604813
Longer common route means more content with less effort. It's also supposed to introduce the characters and help the reader to get to know the heroines before the route.

>>13604820
Maybe I'll try it when I don't have anything else to read then.

>>13604822
>>13604834
Getting to know all the heroines for 20+ hours is excessive, especially if the writer can't do decent character interactions. Usually by 3 hours in I know which girl I want to fuck.

>>13604814
Artists do other work all the time, sometimes I play certain games because I know the artist from eromanga.
Scriptwriters sometimes write Light Novels or other scripts in general.
Some VAs do anime or doujin audio work.
Full time Programmers are almost nonexistant or companies use free assets like krkr or paid solutions.
I assume audio is also contractual work that gets licensed for use.

Unless it's a big company, you can see where that is going. Being only a studio director must be tough.

Long common route is still better than one true route.

Is there a single person in Eushullu behind worldbuinding? They somehow keep the world consistent between games despite changing scenario writer every time.

>>13604845
>Is there a single person in Eushully behind world-building

>>13604462
Man, this game could be longer. I'll be waiting for FD and hopefully it's not MiniFD like Fureraba.

>>13604845
I would assume there is at least somebody taking care of it, but it's not like their setting is that complex and I assume the writers at least know something about it before writing. The setting is probably taken into account when designing the game anyway.

>>13604438
>>13604450
I thought Perseus was worth reading just for the H-scenes.

>>13604866
One thing about that eroge though: Does anyone actually like Sora?
She is really grating on my nerves and I can't explain why. I hope she's somehow better in her route.

>>13604906
I think she's fine. What's your problem with her? As for me, anyone think Moemi's VA is kinda amateur?

>>13604906
I like her a lot, one of my favourites.

>>13604927
>What's your problem with her?
I have no idea, I keep flipping between being really irritated at her (irrationally) and liking her.

>anyone think Moemi's VA is kinda amateur?
Agreed. I kinda feel the same way about Karina's VA too.

>>13604788
Magical Dears delayed 3 months? That must be some serious trouble,

>>13604935
Karina is sub-character so I can forgive them for using shitty VA but Moemi is one of the game heroine. I actually like her character design but her voice turned me off.

>>13604970
Karina has a sprite, but their mother doesn't and I'd argue she has a better VA.

>>13604927
> As for me, anyone think Moemi's VA is kinda amateur?
She's had three eroge roles before, one of them being a doujin work, and I believe one of them as a background character.
Her voice gets better as she becomes more dere though.

ADV or NVL?

>>13604998
なんでもない

>>13604985
They gotta start somewhere I suppose.

>>13603800
Mosaic-senpai worked hard this month.

How do you deal with that empty feeling after finishing a particularly good VN, especially if it has a gutpunch ending?

>>13605217
Alcohol.

>>13605217
Sleep.

>>13605217
Time.

>>13605217
I go read a section of another VN that I enjoyed and then move on

>>13605217
Death.

>>13604906
Yeah she's kinda annoying. I didn't mind it at first but it got worse. Haven't played her route yet though maybe she becomes less irritating?

Did the digest trial for neyuki no genei. It's a really short one but looks really interesting from the ending movie.
Can't believe I forgot it was being released this month, I was hyped for it and all.

>>13605402
I could never get over how ridiculous those faces look.

>>13605415
In what way? They look more normal than the standard.

>>13605402
Whats the game about? I liked the writer's previous work Ai Shimai IV so i am interested in it

>>13605437
The trial was, literally, guy goes with his girlfriend (blonde) to an inn in the mountains. There he meets the owner, her daughter who dresses as a maid and the girl in the uniform who appears right at the end.
Some really weird and heavy shit will happen later on, especially since the game opens with a kind of unsettling sex scene. Looks promising.

>>13605416
It looks weird because the artist is going for a more realistic style but they seem to have no idea how facial features contour around the planes of the face. The girl on the right looks like a fucking fish. Middle looks like her facial features are just stickers on a flat plane. Left isn't as bad, but her eyes, nose, and mouth are misaligned. The coloring is nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jll2dy6tqfc
>和牛

>>13605454
Ooh that does seem interesting thanks for the info anon

>>13605487
Their last one was wasabi, I wonder where they'll go next.

>>13605489
I'd recommend reading the trial, it's like, 10-20 minutes long and you can get a better idea on what will happen.

>>13605494
All right you've got me anon. i'll give the trial a shot since its that short.

>>13605487
Seems like a NTRge to me.

>>13605525
If you self insert as the girlfriend.

Best girl.

>>13605217
Reading a moege.
Happened with natsuyume nagisa, now i'll read hatsuyuki sakura.

>>13605556
Who?

>>13605587
Generic black-twintailed moege girl #48545305.

>>13605594
Anri is cute though.

>>13605789
Less than Tsubame or Anzu, and she's annoying as hell in her own route and Anzu's route.

>>13605794
>Anzu
Cuteness incarnate. I could barely take it.

>>13605794
Her face made me laugh.

>>13605794
Shit taste alert.

So I'm reading oretsuba; is this what good writing is like? I'm really enjoying it so far.

>>13605938
Magical eh, when it turns out all that endless praise wasn't for nothing.

Why are all eroge so fucking long? Somewhat annoying for me since I only have a few hours of free time each day.

anyone can recommend more netori games?.
love this type of stories.

>>13606135
thats why i play charages. just pick the girl/route you like and move on. completing everything just takes too much time.

>>13606135
It pays a lot if there is a true end. Also read faster!

>>13606138
愛姉妹IV

Haven't really played a lot of vns recently, most one every month or two. Since this year started I only finished Ao Kana (sprite), Amakano and Kanojo no Seiiki.

Now I'm about to finish Evenicle and I don't see anything else released in these last months worth playing aside the new omega star and smee games, any suggestions/did I miss anything?

>>13606887
Bansenjin if you're a chuunikid.

>>13606135
A few reasons that come to mind:
1. Script writers often get paid by the character, so its in their interest to write longer scripts.
2. Eroge have been steadily getting longer to the point where very long games are expected from the consumers. If a full priced game released today only ran 10 hours it would be met with backlash (even 15 hour full-price games get criticized for being too short) even though full priced games in the 90's were often even shorter than that.
3. Eroge are expensive, so on one hand I can't fully fault customers for wanting something long enough to make it worth their money. However, since so much of the extra length is boring padding-out of the script I don't think that justifies the price any more than if the script was slimmed down.

I agree with you that eroge are too long. I also have limited time to spend reading them, but also very few eroge use their length meaningfully. Adding extra boring, pointless shit just makes a game worse.

>>13606887
Last leyline.

>>13605794
She has much more personality uniqueness than Anzu.

>>13606887
Kami no Rhapsody.

>>13606946
Number 2 sounds like a potentially dangerous problem that might get out of control in the near future.

OH　MY　GOD

>>13606946
I don't know if you're right, but that's exactly what I suspected was going on. I don't like the development, but it's understandable.

Oh well, after a while you get quite good at skimming scrolling and controlling the boring parts, that obviously was put in only to make the game longer.

>>13607555
In my case I just got better at dropping things, and pickier about what I pick up.

Is 11eyes worth reading?

>>13607954
If that screenshot's anything to go by, no.

>>13607990
Indeed, BBA bullying is not tolerated on /jp/.

>>13607954

I read a little ways in and I just couldn't get into it. I ended up dropping it. At this point it seems like the only chuuni I can tolerate is Masada's stuff for better or worse. 11eyes seems to be decently well received so you might want to give it a shot and decide for yourself, I might just have shit taste.

For people that care information on Majikoi A-5 is coming out on the 19th

>>13609827
where did you get the info? and 19th means this month?

>>13610007
Staff notes and this month

>タカヒロ

>まじこいＡ５、
>６月１９日から情報を公開していきます

>宜しくお願いします

>>13609827
Information on 少女たちは荒野を目指す when?

>>13610339
When Takahiro finishes writing it.

>>13607954
It's ok, good fights, great soundtrack, good atmosphere, amazing backstory.
The plot on the other hand, falls flat, especially given how well they built the world itself, and the characters aren't particularly great either. Read it if you're into chuunige, otherwise you can skip.

What is an actually good chuuni game that isn't Masada or Nitroplus stuff anyways?

>>13611613
>good
>chuuni game

No.

>>13611613
I like 3rdeye games and I'm interested in their july game.

>>13611613
Fate and Steampunk series

>>13611616
xD

>>13611613
Not a big fan of chuuni, but 双子座のパラドクス was pretty cool.

>>13611433
Please no.

>>13611674
What?

Someone can recommend good vn that translated this year?

>>13611775
What do VNs translate? Other VNs?

Come on, one of you has an army of maids at home, why are you so dumb.

>>13611833
Some people treat 2D characters as real persons, others go a step further and attribute agency to software apparently.

At least there's one natural born meido

>>13611934
>>13611911
How's the game?

>>13611613
最終痴漢電車３

>>13611947
I like the art but it's nothing special at this point, just a cute gang of childhood friends and a priest who thinks he's a fighting Buddhist monk but I'm not so far into the game. Not bad, I just roll my eyes sometimes but that's with near every game.

>>13611947
The art is nice. That's about it.

>>13611947
Two of the routes are quite good.

Any VN where one of the heroines turns out to be MC's daughter from the future?

>>13612301
Yes

>>13612312
Care to name it?

>>13611613
None. I even laughed at how dumb Dies Irae was when I tried playing it.

>>13612301
The only one I can think of that did that was With Ribbon but she wasn't really a heroine.

>>13612301
Wouldn't that create a paradox?
A heroine who is the mother of herself.

>>13607954
If you like chuunige in general then it's alright, but the plot shits itself in the end and there's lots of SoL before something ~real deal~ happens. I actually liked the setting behind things, so that was a waste.

I ended up playing all the way through because I liked one of the heroines. The routes all play out the same, except for one which actually explains things in the epilogue.

>>13612301
12の月のイヴ

I can't get Princess Evangile W (fandisc) to launch.

I actually got it running once but now it never opens again. It just crashes immediately upon starting. I tried it with the alsignup_110722.exe crack and also tried the 1.01 update and some guy's cracked exe from anime-sharing but it still doesn't work.

It's the exact crash I had when trying the MangaGamer version while the system was in Japanese locale.

>>13612640
Ask /vg/.

>>13612645
This is the untranslated fandisc. It's just strange that the original game only worked when launching it with English locale. I'm getting the same kind of crashing with the fandisc, but neither locale fixes it.

>>13612649
Use japanese language or set japanese unicode. That fixed the problems i had with other games.

Is it just me or are newer games really being lazy with their BGM? A boring OP song is no big deal for me, but uninspired BGM racket on the level of early SNES RPGs really grates my nerves. Yet I'm hesitant to turn it off entirely since an abrupt music change often indicates sudden plot development.

Maybe I'm just playing the wrong games?

>>13612725
I liked the BGM in Bishoujo Mangekyu in particular. I might even transcribe some of the piano stuff.

>>13612649
Did you install it in Japanese Locale?

>>13612745
Yep. The weirdest part was that I launched the game fine and then I tried it again a few days later with Visual Novel Reader and it never worked again. Not sure if that's related. Tried reinstalling a few times, rebooting and it still won't start up.

>>13612755
Seems like you got what you deserve.

>>13612755
>Visual Novel Reader
What's that?
Why would you need a reader for a vn? Seems pretty absurd.

>>13612733
That is still sitting in my ever increasing backlog.

The last game which had really pleasing BGM for me was 夏空のペルセウス.

>>13612755
>machine translations
>>>/vg/

>>13612837
N-no bully

>>13612843
Epic

>>13612837
>>13612843
Samefag, also who are you quoting?

>>13612852
Ebin meme my friend.

>>13612843
Fuck off dude

>>13612863
You fuck off

Dear diary, today /vng/ was shit.

>>13612896
I imagine your diary is much of the same

>>13612896
The fuck is /vng/? It's not here, and it's not /vn/

>>13612921
He probably thinks all boards are /vg/ and all threads need to have those stupid abbreviations. That kind of crossboarder thinking is the source of a lot of this thread's issues lately.

>>13612951
A lot of these threads issues are related to hostility and people generally being dicks to each other

>>13612958
Hostility is the price of having standards.

>>13613016
It's pretty clear the standards here have long left

>>13613033
Because people talk about things you don't like?

>>13613043
Yes

>>13613043
You can like VNs and not act like angry with an inflated ego. It wasn't like this a few years ago.
>>13612896
Every once in a blue moon I take a look there it gets worse. I have no idea how people who know japanese even bother to go there.

>>13613232
>Every once in a blue moon I take a look there it gets worse.
Just like this thread

Finished sayooshi. Overall, almost perfect for me. I had high expectations for this and it well exceeded it. It's depressing, anxiety provocative, disturbing and I love it. The writing's good and there are some really nice lines. The music fits nicely. The art on the most part is good and it has really good shading, especially on the legs I noticed.

It pretty much does what I want an eroge to be. Something that utilizes text, art and music and it does all that. The ero scenes are good. Not usable but good it read. It takes the typical wander around a school to different locations and flips it on its head.

It has a really dreamy atmosphere. Everything occurring either during sunset or a dream is really good.

At first thought the last scene of every route gives a lot away was a bad idea and killed my enjoyment directly after but I actually think it works well. I still like being in the state of not really know whats happening. But it pretty much states most of it so you should be able to figure it out for yourself.

There is no backlog and no skip previously read text. It always freezes with long lines even with the update patch. Also if you have the game running in a window and have the mouse in another window the mouse lags.

Anyway, it's beautiful. The more I think about it the more I like it. It's shorter than most, it only took me three days.

>>13613623
>There is no backlog and no skip previously read text. It always freezes with long lines even with the update patch. Also if you have the game running in a window and have the mouse in another window the mouse lags.
Seems like crappy programming. That's a major turn off for me.

>>13613944
It's just old. Games back then almost never had them.

>>13613623
Too bad there's really no other good denpa games.

>>13611947
I read the entire thing (including the PSP only route) and it was not bad. I enjoyed the music though because glorious Szak.

Hina's route was definitely my favorite.

>>13614259
Is the PSP extra route worth playing?

>>13614901
Do you like Tsukiko? The route itself is nothing special.

>>13613232
Why are you using "there" to describe thread you post it in? I bet you mix up "kore" and "sore" too.

>>13615454
Not even him, but since he's talking about /vg/ and now he's in /jp/, from the viewpoint of here (/jp/), /vg/ becomes there. No matter if he's a /vg/-faggot or not.

So next time you want to be a smartass, don't be retarded about it.

Also you sound like you mix up 行く and 来る a lot.

>>13615527
Just ignore the EOP scum.

ugh i just accidentally deleted my whole eroge collection fuck my life...

>>13609827
Nice.

>>13615693
Your kidding?

>>13615704
No, his eroge collection.

>>13615711
You sure got him good.

>>13615714
Thanks I thought so too

>>13615704
>>13615711
>>13615714
>>13615784
Epic

>>13614981
Who doesn't like Tsukiko?

What's the chance they will release a new envoy in DMOC?

just started Yuuno's route in Memories Off 6

>>13607183
Elaborate on what game that is?

>>13616091
I may be wrong since I haven't played it, but I think it's Pure Connect.

>>13616093
Yep.

I'm not an EOP, but there are a few "classic" titles I've never read. Is the original Muv Luv any good? It looks like normal SOL to me which I already am reading a lot of at the moment.

>>13616209
It's a pretty funny satire that can get tiresome in it's extended parodies but is ultimately pretty OK, especially on repeat playthroughs where foreshadowing is more obvious and enjoyable.

>>13616209
The first half of ML is a normal comedic SOL, yes. It's basically a parody though and it's entertaining in its own way. Don't expect something amazing. You need to play it before moving on to MLA though, and it really is worth it.

>>13616209
It's fun enough. I personally can't see the big deal about Muv Luv series as whole (it's not that great imo) but if you're into that kind of stuff, go ahead. The original is basically necessary to play for you to really enjoy the later ones.

Also, all the spin-offs are complete shit.

loli

>>13616499
Why does it say ``trap girl'' on the cutest girl's shirt? This doesn't bode well...

>>13616499
What game is that?

>>13616456
>I personally can't see the big deal about Muv Luv series as whole
The extreme lack of mecha and sci-fi VNs alone would elevate Muv Luv so high. That it's pretty great too just helps.

>>13616456
Chronicles are not great but I wouldn't call them complete shit. Granted I didn't even read Vol.4 since I got tired of the franchise in general, but it's not like they are unreadable garbage.

>>13616506
ロリポップファクトリー

>>13616514
>>13616507
I thought the base games were kinda mediocre but still somewhat enjoyable and I've tried every single spin-off without reading any of them completely.

Honestly, I'm not sure how good my opinion is to listen to when it comes to this kind of stuff as I found Extra to be the most enjoyable and had trouble getting through Alternative (which is somewhat strange as I'm not usually a big fan of SOL). It just feels like it's too all over the place and didn't know where it wanted to go.

>>13616549
>It just feels like it's too all over the place and didn't know where it wanted to go.
I feel like that's a pretty inaccurate assessment, since it's pretty clear it was planned out for years and had a very coherent plot.

>>13616551
Most of the stuff in that game has little to no bearing to the main plot, being either thrown in setting building or filler.

>>13616564
I don't know what you're talking about. Unless you're insinuating that world-building and characterization has "no bearing" to the main plot.

>>13616564
> filler
It had pacing issues. Just like 90% of eroge. I agree that it's a major problem, but it has nothing to do with the scenario being good or bad, lacking directionality etc..
>thrown in setting building
How is this a bad thing?

>>13616574
>>13616577
Mostly my problem with the way it did setting building is that it never felt like half the stuff was all that relevant beyond this character is now going to give us a wall of exposition, which probably contributes to why I felt like it was kind of all over the place.

I'd also say that with all the characterization it did, most of the side characters are pretty forgettable and ended up blending together afterwards.

My problem with the filler was that by the end of it I was getting bored and started to have problems with telling what I should actually pay attention to and what to skim through and that, for me, took a lot of the impact the story could have had away.

>>13616610
I think the problem here is that you just don't like sci-fi settings. I'm struggling to word this in a way that doesn't make me seem like a cocky dick, but for me, all that exposition was *interesting*, and I liked putting the world together, and I liked learning more about it. In your case, you just think it's not relevant. Like, skimming through it? To me, that's like, a horrific thing to do. Muv Luv wasn't "all over the place" and it didn't have filler. You just don't give enough fucks about sci-fi settings or learning about a fantasy world.

>>13616224
>>13616440
>>13616456
Thanks, I'll give it a try then.

>>13615836
Seems like there are things she loves even more than paizuri. I think Tsukiko's great, will have to play the PSP game.

I guess I like the ``spooky'' turn. I'm a sucker for some youkai fun.

>>13616623
You're probably right, which is kind of strange because I usually do enjoy world building quite a bit in many games, but in Muv Luv's case I just couldn't get into it all that well. The fact that a decent amount of it came down to 'because science' didn't help. For me the politics were pretty interesting though.

>>13616630
Her route is mostly about revitalizing their town.
I couldn't not play it after Hina's route, what a cocktease.

I understand now why Japan like her and this game. I don't even like trap or have any interest in fashion design but this game doesn't bore me at all. I wonder what's going to happen once Luna found out Asahi is a guy.

>>13616657
>I couldn't not play it after Hina's route, what a cocktease.
Tell me about it.

Every time I think "H-scene's are going to be a waste of my semen, I'll go for the enhanced one with no H" and start reading it I end up wanting to fug but I can't.

You would think I would have learned to go for the 18+ version every time by now.

>>13617009
Why not playing both? The 18 and all ages version?

>>13617009
Why would you play an eroge without ero?

>>13617021
Additional content.

>>13617024
Wut i would rather have H-Scenes than "additional content"

>>13617136
More routes if they are decent beat sex scenes by a mile.

>>13617140
But what's the point of a route if you can't fuck the girl in it?

>>13617180
Having a nice read?

>>13617189
Why don't you just read an actual novel then?

>>13617190
Why don't you read erotica then? More sex in less time.

>>13617180
I particularlly enjoy the character interactions and how the plot develops. I always skip the h-scenes when reading and only read them when i want to fap.

>>13617195
A lot of characters in nukige aren't virgins

>Get sick of hearing the same BGM on loop
>Don't want to mute it incase I miss a sudden song change or sound effect

Halp

>>13617249
Learn to read faster.

>>13617190
Not him, but I like some tropes associated with VNs and the Japanese-style (anime-style) art.

Granted, I also like H scenes to top off a nice route. But I can do without.

>>13617190
If actual novels were both packed with likable girls and voiced I'd be all over them, but they're not..

What do you feel about heroine that always use 敬語 /jp/ ? Does it turn you off?

>>13617513
Add a watakushi and a yamato nadeshiko-like personality and I'm hard.

>>13617249
Just play games with better music, like nekonade distortion

>>13617521
I remember playing it for the op, big mistake.

>>13617519
>watakushi

No, thank you.

>>13617513
Not at all, if anything it's a plus.

>>13617519
Watakushi is mighty annoying for me. It's also more an ojousama trait than a yamatonadeshiko thing.

>>13617550
>>13617598
Isn't that pretty なんでもない though? I can't imagine actually being bothered by it.

>>13617657
>pretty なんでもない

Uhh, what?

>>13617664
He probably meant "pretty どうでもいい".

On a partially related note: Onii-sama is the best way for a girl to call her brother.

>>13617671
he probably shouldn't insert random japanese phrases in the middle of an english sentence when there's no need to

>>13617664
As in "なんでもない"

>>13617671
That's a completely different phrase.

>>13617686
I don't think it really matters, does it?

>>13617687
Do you even know what "なんでもない" means?

>>13617715
I have my own beetle understanding, sure.

>>13617693
Yes. And I feel it fits better into the sentence.

The perils of trying to use random Japanese words in the middle of an English sentence when there are plenty of perfectly good English words you could've used.

>>13617513
I don't mind the speech style itself but the type of overly polite and reserved heroine it's usually attached to is really boring to me.

While we're discussing heroine speech patterns why the hell are most eroge practically devoid of heroines who use some type of dialect or slang? You'd imagine there would be a market for strange speech archetypes like there's a market for your usual tsundere and such.

>>13617886
I just went with what felt right, I really don't think it's a big deal

>>13617890
Speech patterns like old man, ojou, etc. are a literary device.
Dialects are an inconvenient part of real world culture which the Japanese government has tried and is trying to suppress.
The same happens in other country (like mine). I can assure you they do a very good job at brainwashing people. Whenever I (and many of my countrymen) hear even just some dialectal accents I instantly cringe and I naturally feel like the speaker is somewhat ignorant since he doesn't speak the "common language" like I do. Unless it's for comedy, than it's ok.
Even if I know of this bias, I can't gen rid of it. After all, it's not like it's completely baseless. It's just blown out of proportion.
I can imagine the situation in Japan is really similar, after all comedy is often performed in/includes kansai-ben, and the other dialects are extremely rare probably because educated people (ie. people who went to school and learned the enforced common language) just don't like how ignorant they sound.

>>13617657
I am. I also don't like it when girls end their sentence with わ. Thought that's probably because of my native language though it's not as bad as watakushi.

>>13617684
No doubt about that.

>>13617994
>I also don't like it when girls end their sentence with わ

But it's cute and girlish

>>13617994
>Thought that's probably because of my native language
How do you figure? わ is pretty moe to me.

>>13617991
>Whenever I (and many of my countrymen) hear even just some dialectal accents I instantly cringe and I naturally feel like the speaker is somewhat ignorant since he doesn't speak the "common language" like I do

It's the same here, though I have to say it depends on the dialect. Some of them are more country bumpkin-ish as others, and some or straight up hilarious.

I have to say your typical Kansai dialect isn't even that bad and easily understandable. I might have a twisted view because of all the fake-Kansai dialect in eroge though. I had some problems with dialects in ものべの but it wasn't anything too wild.

>>13618002
>>13618004
It's a colloquial expression in German to seek agreement, basically like "ね", generally used by men. Coincidentally, "ne?" also works like in Japanese.

>>13617513
I like it especially if she's snarky and not a complete pushover. I started Puramai Wars recently and Mei stood out for me because of that.

>>13617513
Why would a girl with manners be a turn-off for anyone?

>>13618132
Some people like feeling close to the girl they're dating.

By the way why doesn't any company makes heroine with Kansai-ben? I think most of the readers like that kind of stuff but for some reason they are rare as fuck. Do they cant find a VA who can voice kansai-ben or something? Even the countryside themed games dont have that anymore.

>>13618220
Hello.

>>13618220
They do make them from time to time but
>I think most of the readers like that kind of stuff
Since Kyoani removed all the kansai-ben from Euphonium when they adapted it, I wonder how much the average otaku likes it. Probably not that much.

>>13618242
This is what I meant, even though they are great as fuck we can only seem one per 2-3 years. To be honest I cant even remember except Her, blue haired girl from noble works and some from koihime series.

>>13618254
I see, if they really removed the kansai-ben as you said it might be not that liked. Well I'm not even sure why did I thought everyone like them.

I wish more games would have heroines speaking Kansai-ben because it makes my penis inexplicably hard.

>>13617513
It makes me think of the irrational Japanese adherence to unnecessary but "traditional" things, and it's a turnoff.

On the other hand, a heroine who drops the 敬語 when a senpai/superior/toshiue pisses her off has my respect. Nothing reeks of fake like using 敬語 towards someone you're angry at.

>>13618034
I cant believe there are some people who doesn't like ね, Its the cutest thing ever if a loli is saying that as "ねー"

>>13618304
Nobody said they didn't like ne, you fucking sperglord.

>>13618304
Is that a super honorific or something? Cute as hell to be honest.

>>13618304
Didn't say anything about ね, though.

>>13618293
Kansai-ben is relatively common, try looking for Kyoto-ben, or even rarer ones like Kyuushuu/Hakata-ben.

>>13618309
What? Didn't he meant that people might not like わbecause its being used in german, and from the same logic people might not like ねeither because its being used in german too.

>>13618317
I think you leaved DJT a bit too early.

>>13618323
No, he's just using an example by saying "ne" in Japanese has similar usage to "wa" in German, except "wa" is mostly used by men.

>>13618323
>Didn't he meant that people might not like わ

What? No, I was speaking strictly about my own preferences.

>and from the same logic people might not like ねeither because its being used in german too.

I was just mentioning that "ne" and ね are used in the same way. There was no connection to the previous sentence.

>>13618335
I see, I misunderstood then. Sorry about that really, its currently 5 am of the morning and I'm dumb as fuck.

Speaking about speech patterns, I wonder if older Japanese men wake up one morning and decide they should use washi as first person pronoun from now on.

Still, I have a soft spot for them in eroge. Moe as hell.

>>13618326
>leaved
I think you left DET a bit too early yourself.

>>13618375
I don't need English for my porn games.

>>13618379
You need English to shitpost on this board.

>>13618379
Pleb, i bet you don't translate the games to english in your mind even though is not your native language.

>>13618386
It's enough for here. Bad English is par for the course in this thread. I actually wonder how many Russians we have, with all the omitted articles and stuff.

>>13618392
I thought the ESL people in these thread were BRs. They write like fhc.

>>13618392
Native speakers often speak bad English too. Most "should/would of" and "its/it's" errors come from them.

>>13618407
That's not really bad English, that's just essentially typos/misspellings.

>>13618317

>>13618410
Those are neither typos nor misspellings.

>>13618414
Doctor West doesn't use just any "de aru", he uses the super-evolved "de aaaaaru".

>>13618410
It's very hard to tell whether it's a typo or they just don't know the difference.

>>13618367
Japanese old men don't actually use わし, that is just an anime/game thing.

>>13618455
I've only ever met one Japanese old man, but he used 僕.

>>13618472
Could be a regional thing. I was talking to my colleagues about pronouns, and they said that わし isn't actually use normally in real life after I asked the same question of "Do they just decide one day to start using it?".

>>13618455
I think he was saying exactly that.

>>13618420
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographical_error

>>13618407
>[Citation needed]

NEW THREAD WHEN

>>13618652
We are at 329 posts on page 2.
Maybe tomorrow.

>>13618652
You're the worst.

>>13618705
The word is saiaku, I believe.

>>13618455
>anime/game thing.
It's not restricted to otaku things, regular literature features this stuff too, it well predates anime.

>>13618705
Excuse me for wanting to post in a thread that isn't about to die

>>13618794
This is a slow board. This thread still has a good deal of life left before it dies. Look at the /a/ crossboarder general, they have no problem reaching 1500+ posts before the thread dies.

>>13618906
Which thread is that

>>13618921
How do you not know what I'm talking about? It's that one disgusting, unwanted general that /a/ pushed over to here.

>>13618937
I only post in these threads.

>>13618943
Look in the catalog. It starts with "Mons"

>>13618495
Writing "of" instead of "have" is not a typographical error. It's using the wrong word because you think it's correct. Try again.

>>13618600
Only people who have learned those things from their environment, and not from a class, would make those mistakes. For everyone else, they're too silly.

>>13619083
Great citation m8, you could publish that on wikipedia.

>>13619096
Looks like I tickled someone's autism. Go be angry somewhere else pls, this is the VN thread.

>>13619111
This citation is even better.

>>13619118
I don't think the anger is debatable, since you obviously think it's important enough to keep the thread derailed over. You can prove me wrong by keeping quiet, but I doubt you will.

>>13619125
I think it's plenty important to call people out on shit they make up.

>>13619134
Such as trying to obfuscate the point with things as hilariously ridiculous as trying to disguise an ignorant mistake as a typo?

>>13618321
>Kansai-ben is relatively common
It really isn't.

Sure, if you look specifically for games with kansai-ben heroines I'm sure you can find a few, but it's not common enough to pop up frequently when playing games just because they are good, and that's what matters. I want more Kansai-ben speaking heroines, but I'm not going to pick up a game for it.

>>13618414
Am I supposed to understand a shitty meme from /a/ ?

>>13619798
It happened on /vn/

>>13619844
That's even worse.

>>13619872
>muh elitism

>>13619886
Epic, keep it up.

>>13619893
Almost as epic as you thinking this place is better than any other general

>>13619901
Well, crossboarder from /vg/ like you is the reason this thread quality deteriorating recently.

>>13619948
>recently

>_<

>>13619615
"Relatively" means in comparison to other -bens.

>>13602942
Is Fortune Aertial worth reading? I watched the anime years ago, now that I can play VN I was wondering if it's good or not.

>>13620443
It's pretty good if you like August's other stuff, but it's nowhere near as funny as something like Daitoshokan. I'd say give it a read but don't expect anything amazing.

>>13620443
did you like the anime. if yes then you should play it

Speaking of August, I'd like to try 夜明け前より瑠璃色な but I'm not sure how is that connected with Moonlight Cradle version. Is that a FD or a remake? Should I just play the Moonlight Cradle version or should I play the original first, then go for the cradle? If someone can inform me about this I'd be glad.

>>13620573
Also is there any difference between the original's all ages version and +18 one except the h-scenes? Seriously why the fuck did they released same thing for 5 goddamn times.

>>13620573
I love the title of that game.

>>13620578
Reminds me of Shimazaki Touson's book 夜明け前.

>>13620573
Maybe do some research first.

You have the regular game – Yoake Mae yori Ruri Iro na.

Then yoi have the enhanced non-H version – Yoake Mae yori Ruri Iro na - Brighter than Dawning Blue.

And then you have the fandisc – Yoake Mae yori Ruri Iro na - Moonlight Cradle.

And the descriptions on VNDB tell you the FD follows the expanded version scenario.

If you want it all, I'd go the first version of H scenes, then Brighter than Dawning Blue for enhanced scenarios and then the FD.

>>13620596
I know they extanded the original game with adding 2 new heroines / routes at the All ages version, what I meant to ask was if there is any difference between original heroine routes except the h-scenes or did they extended those as well.

In short:

Should I play Original game > 2 new routes from all ages version > FD or All routes from all ages version > Just h-scenes from original game > FD.

>>13620614
Now that's a question for the ages.

Well, https://vndb.org/r598
>The PS2 port has an expanded version of the original story as well as two new heroines, Estel Freesia and Toyama Midori.
implies the non-H port has new stuff even for the original heroines.

>>13620625
I'm starting with the all ages version then, Thank you for helping.

>>13620628
VNDB is kinda sketchy source. Sometimes people on EGS write details about version differences, but not for Yoake. I also skimmed the Japanese Wiki article for it, but it didn't seem to have any details too. So VNDB has to do, I guess.

Koichoco full patch when?

>>13620665
It's not that hard to find it if you try.

http://yiyun.baidu.com/wap/shareview?&shareid=1758549106&uk=1694768359&dir=%2F网盘游戏分区%2F恋と選挙とチョコレート&page=1&num=20&fsid=681184079551831

>>13620680
English patch ?

>>13620684
Japanese patch.

>>13620690
lol

>>13620701
Is it really that hard to understand the thread title?

>>13620769
Only the deluded thread name changer/OP changer that initially did the change was convinced this would deter these kind of people.

Reading VNs you've already read translated is so weird.
It's like reading a different work altogether at times.

Anyone /g/ here?

I'm thinking of switching over to Linux. Dunno much about the OS itself and I do plan to read around about it. But I'm just wondering if there's anyone else here who plays eroge on Linux, and if they could tell me about general compatibility?

>>13621294
Dual boot.
Virtual machines.
Wine.
Choose.

>>13621294
>>13621300
Except for some very rare cases ( shitty programs) I can do everything on wine.
it's a pain sometimes to make it work, but it can work. PlayonLinux works for western games, and most visual novels work out of the box.

>>13621294
serious question: why bother? if you're not going to utilize linux's strengths you may as well not switch. windows is orientated for normal PC users and if that's you not need to make things harder for yourself.

>>13621322
I'll probably be getting a new laptop in the next few months and I'm not a fan of Windows 8 or Apple. I'll see what Win 10 is like first I suppose before deciding.

>>13621300
>>13621314
Good to know, thanks.

>>13621349
Anything you don't like about W8 probably doesn't compare to how many problem's you'd have with linux. Not to mention W8 is pretty much just W7 with optimizations so I don't know why you wouldn't like it.

>>13621366
The number of VNs that don't work on Win 7 is "barely any". With Win 8 it becomes "a little bit more".

>>13621366
Admittedly, I haven't tried it out much since the lack of start bar and touchscreen-based OS put me off (yes I know you could install a mod for the start bar but still). Not to mention I'm happy with W7 so saw no reason to bother with W8.

But W10 looks to be better, and I'm happy to give it a try for a while. Free upgrade and all.

>>13621366
Windows 8 has the annoying side bar that comes up when you slide in from the right side of the screen, which is especially annoying on a laptop if you use your right hand to control the cursor.
The start menu also doesn't work and instead takes you to some big facebook screen instead.

>>13621425
Sure, there are a couple of annoying features, but god help you if you move to linux, which has infinitely more annoying attributes to work around.

>>13621444
>linux, which has infinitely more annoying attributes to work around.

Like needing to realize you can install a DE that's similar to Windows?

>>13621322
I've found that there are some advantages to using wine for eroge. You don't have to worry about things like Baku Ane's clock lock thing, or mess with compatibility settings. It might not be worth the trouble for most people, but it's nice.

new thread when

>>13621602
After we hit page 11

There was a new nukige I played 2-3 years ago that had pretty good art, it had something with two girls fighting over the MC with lots of 3P scenes. I think the girls had magic but it was set in modern times. And there was another route with one other heroine.

I know that's a pretty generic description, but does anyone know what I'm talking about? Trying to find it again.

>>13621711
Nevermind found it.

https://vndb.org/v14082

>>13621294

>>13621711
>>13621760
>good art
You have some pretty low standards.

>>13622298
>>13622298
>>13622298

New

It makes me really sad to see a thread live on for a while with 0 activity in it.

>>13621322
You already use several Linux strengths just by using it.

>>13621294
Most eroge works nowadays on Wine-staging, but they use a bit more CPU.

>>13617519
>nadeshiko-like personality
I knew there are Japs who like this but I didn't think I would find someone deranged enough here.

testing a post

test again

Poor thread, you could have lived for so much longer...

>>13602942
sxc