/jp/ - Otaku Culture

yes

>>13593055

Nice Dubs
and NOPE.AVI

I miss my home

>>13593055
There were no good days of /jp/. If moot's gone, who's gonna axe /jp/?

I miss when /a/ wasn't shit, /v/ made interesting content instead of complaining 24/7 about sites stealing their memes and irrelevant women, and there was no such thing as a worksafe board.

I do not remember the old days anymore.

I come here in 2007, I believe I change with the site, though in opposite direction. The site becomes less edgy and less weeaboo, I become more edgy and more weeaboo.

I only miss the time when I had less responsibilities and didn't have to worry about money or getting a job.

>>13593146
dude....

>>13593083
/jp/ axed moot

Sometimes.

I miss when memes were quaint and silly and not called memes.

I do miss the good old days, /jp/ has changed a lot since then...

>>13593363
If you saw such memes being created today, you'd call them down for being shitty and annoying.

>>13593140
>2007
Summer newfag detected

>>13593458
I'm older than the creation of /jp/.

Yes and I am relatively new, I came back after a year and /jp/ has turned into a Japanese themed /b/.

>>13593478
That was supposed to be the Golden age 2011-2012 of /jp/, a replacement for old /b/.

>>13593441
They were always shitty. Hell I don't really hate new memes either. I hate that people try to force them and mass produce them and spread them to normalfags. It's like trying to publicize in-jokes and everyone's laughing but they don't really get it, and the actual punchline is that there's nothing to get.

I particularly hate what image macros have become, but I'm not going to pretend they were going places. http://macrochan.org/tagTree.php I mean I can just go there and see the shittyness.

The only memes I really hate are the "don't give source" meme and the related bible black/battletoads/boku no pico/darude sandstorm submemes, the thing the "feels good man" meme has degenerated to and everything else related to the whole feels/greentext story universe from dumb stories about spaghetti and bears to the "wayq" spam, and the "it's popular on 'site x' so we can't do it anymore and will also ironically make fun of it." thing. Matter of fact, I'm tired of "ironic" spam/shitposting in general. It's gotten to the point where it doesn't matter if they're being ironic or not because they're being equally stupid in the same way either way.

>>13593540
I can never hate the don't give source thing because it makes people really mad.

>>13593568
No one gets "mad" by anything you do.

>>13593575
Well no, /jp/ saging everything used to make people really actually angry because the other boards perceived it as an insult. I miss those days.

>>13593575
Actually I have made people mad to the point where they just tell me to stop it.

>>13593580
Maybe we should do that again.

>>13593055
You mean the good old days of countless NEET threads and "suck my cock, dude"? jaypee really hasn't degenerated all that much.

>>13593601
Nostalgia feels good even if sometimes it doesn't make sense.

>>13593540
Why constantly asking for source when you can just iqdb/reverse search? /r/ was created for this, follow the rules

>>13593540
99.9% percent of source requests are made by retards who can't do basic searching for themselves. I have no problem with telling those people to fuck off and learn to spend two seconds searching for something instead of shitting up the thread with their inane source begging.

I don't mind sharing source if something is genuinely difficult or impossible to find through conventional means but that is a very small percentage of cases.

>>13593710
>Why constantly asking for source when you can just iqdb/reverse search?

The meme isn't about people not using google, it's about editing images and file names just so people won't be able to look it up.

>>13593595
Sage isn't visible anymore so no one would notice. Feel free to keep saging though.

>>13593710
>Why constantly asking for source when you can just iqdb/reverse search?

The meme isn't just about people not using google, it's about editing images and file names just so people won't be able to look it up.

>>13593714
Then tell them to fuck off or just don't respond. Going "lel pico no bokutoads" isn't helping the thread, just like "who you quote" doesn't help anything.

>>13593776
Telling them to fuck off doesn't help anything either (they wouldn't).

The pico no bokutoads and wrqt make them fucking mad for some reasons, so it's valid.

>>13593776
>>it's about editing images and file names just so people won't be able to look it up.
I don't think that is possible
>Going "lel pico no bokutoads" isn't helping the thread, just like "who you quote" doesn't help anything.
That is a way of saying fuck off duh

Those dreamlike days ;_;

>>13593786
>The pico no bokutoads and wrqt make them fucking mad for some reasons, so it's valid.
You cancer really believe that don't you? Do you believe the janitors really get "steamed" when you post dumb images and they get deleted too?

>>13593796
>You cancer really believe that don't you?
That's exactly what happens every thread, so yes
>Do you believe the janitors really get "steamed" when you post dumb images and they get deleted too?
What have retards making rec threads to do with janitors? Anyway that must at least annoy them for sure

This guy draws the best four devas

>>13593478
>/jp/ has turned into a Japanese themed /b/.
Pff, that was /jp/ a few years ago. /jp/ today is not random at all.

>>13593885
Neither is /b/. I more meant the fact that everyone is using /b/ memes and language know, for example there is allot more misuse of the quotation function and calling people newfags and niggers.

>>13593790
Time to wake up buddy.

>>13593055
I miss the time I thought I needed something more than just being alive to survive.

>>13593930
On the other hand, alot of "/jp/" style posting (who are you quoting, no bully, x a shit, truNEET, etc.) has become very widespread on this site.

>>13594100
>the site
It's ubiquitous. Even well known raging pleb bins like youtube comment sections are indistinguishable from the board nowadays.

>>13593478
Japanese themed /vg/ you mean.

>>13594116
There's still over a billion threads about which 2hu's toenail you'd lick or whatnot, if that's to your liking.

>>13594133
I wish all the fetish and all the 3d porn threads would be shipped off to /d/ forever.

>>13594100
I don't think people realize how much culture /jp/ exported to the rest of the site back when this board was still allowed to do its thing.

>>13593790
The dream is over anon.
>>13594218
JAV and all that stuff certainly doesn't belong on /d/ though.

>>13593055
Those dreamlike days...

>>13593485
Oh, when /jp/ had nothing to do with otaku culture and was filled with underage idiots who shitposted throughout the board so hard almost everyone left or isolated themselves into general threads? Good times, yes. Good times. And no, newfag, gloryhole, homosexuals, and cliche gimmicks don't have much to do with old /b/.

Yes, then.

>>13594445
This might shock you, but alot of posters in the "Good old days were what you'd call "crossies".

>>13594833
No, but all of it has a better place than here.

>>13596204
Wow, you mean it was actually crossboarders who posted /jp/ content all over /g/? Noo fuckin way man!!

>>13593055
No, I don't miss them. I stopped doing that in 2013.
I just keep them always at my side, in my memories.
The past cannot be changed nor relived, we live in the present. And there's a huge tumor on the body of /jp/ now, thanks /a/ in general and /a/ mods in particular.

>>13596297
This has nothing to do with /a/. /jp/ ruined itself a long time ago. Unless your "good old days" are the deplorable japanese-flavoured /b/ from 3 to 4 years ago.

>>13596307
>>13589459 has fuck all to do with /a/, with that cancer spilling over to the rest of /jp/ in months.

>>13596307
There are a lot of posters around here now that sound and act like they're straight from /a/ or /v/ though.

y

>>13596348
>>13596322
They're just people who came to the empty wastelands and tried to find a space to live. They're the consequence, not the cause.
>>/jp/?ghost=yes&search_op=op&search_int=dontcare&search_res=op&task=search2&search_datefrom=2011-01-01&search_ord=old&search_capcode=all&search_text=madoka%20a%20shit&search_del=dontcare&offset=24
Oh, what a wonderful board it was. How I miss it. The good old days...
>>/jp/?task=search2&ghost=yes&search_text=suck+my+cock%2C+dude&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=2011-03-01&search_dateto=&search_op=op&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=old&search_capcode=all&search_res=post
>>/jp/?task=search2&ghost=yes&search_text=XD&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=2011-03-01&search_dateto=&search_op=op&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=old&search_capcode=all&search_res=post

>>13596387
And that's not even getting started with buttranger, "who are you quoting?" spam, beatrice spam, nocturnes, "hi im a girl and i want friends", electric blue or whatever that guy's name was, that guy who spammed napoleon, the whole /jp/ shitposting steam group, cocksucking discussion, anime screencap spamming, people trying to make anime discussion acceptable by using LNs as an excuse... and then people wonder why only crossboarders are around these days. You need to be insane, an occasional visitor or a bored shitposter to be able to tolerate the bullshit throughout the past four years.

The good ol days...

>>13596419
...when memes flowed like water

>>13596410
>>13596387
I'm not blaming cancer for being cancer. And it's true that we have already had /a/ shit like kancolle and several other generals by the time monstershitter got evicted here, but they contributed the most to /jp/ turning into another /vg/.
As for the shitposting, /jp/ were sage kings for a reason. We didn't have a catalog back then, and all the cozy discussions happened on pages 3+. You'd know it if you were /jp/ regular back then.

>>13596419
Filtered.

>good old days
>saying this on 4chan 2015

browsed /a/ before the split and /jp/ till ~january 2013

I came to /jp/ only for 5 seconds to see the main page for whatever reason.

This is the truth:
ABSOLUTELY NO SINGLE PERSON WHO BROWSED 5 YEARS AGO DOES NOW. Not me nor my friends I've known from /jp/.

You are all just a bunch of neo-newfriends pretending to be whothefuck knows. 4/jp/ is no longer otaku, you're an "otaku imageboard" equivalent to GAIA.

Sorry but this is the truth. Not on any topic you have great knowledge, nor can you be funny anymore. Not that I expect anything from 4chan in 2015. I hope you rot in here pathetic normies.

>>13596462
>As for the shitposting, /jp/ were sage kings for a reason. We didn't have a catalog back then, and all the cozy discussions happened on pages 3+. You'd know it if you were /jp/ regular back then.
Oh, but I did sage and discuss a lot back then, since I was an avid touhou player. Doesn't change that almost everyone who cared about the board more than a "place to discuss otaku culture" left because of the terrible shitposting. And sage has nothing to do with "hiding" discussion in older pages, /jp/ has been using sage since a long time ago. And I don't need to spell out the reason since you probably know already. Nowadays we have people regurgitating memes created by /bun/ idiots while desperately trying to defend the board from what cannot be defended.
>contributed the most to /jp/ turning into another /vg/.
You know, if I had to blame an "outside source" for ruining /jp/, I would go with /vg/. Poor JRPG threads, poor Ar Tonelico, etc. Besides, at least the generals are on-topic, which is something we weren't very good at for a long time.

>>13596494
>ABSOLUTELY NO SINGLE PERSON WHO BROWSED 5 YEARS AGO DOES NOW
I'm still here nigger.

>>13596494
im still here

>>13596533
Put your trip back on Sakura

>>13596494
I've been on this board since the Strongest Day

>>13596533
>>13596529
Idol fags kill yourselves.

You never belonged here nor were welcome here.

You were always subhumans and you don't even count as a /jp/ resident.

>>13596646
>Idol fags
LOL

I need my homeland

>>13596502
>Doesn't change that almost everyone who cared about the board more than a "place to discuss otaku culture" left because of the terrible shitposting.
Shitposting was a defence mechanism to compensate the lack of moderation (not to say that moderation as exercised here is a better alternative). Selective memory or not, I never really paid much attention to 'funposting' personally. Just report, hide and forget. Maybe that's why I'm still here after all.
However, there's a difference between shitposting for the sake of shitposting (which we had then) and shitposting because you're incapable of normal posting (which we have now). Guess where that biomass came from/who forced it upon us.
By the way, why blame /vg/ of all things? It's not even a real board, it's literally an extension of /a/ and /v/ with all their userbase intact in all their glory.

>>13596502
Sage was simply used for off topic. On a board that discusses 2hus, sage taught newbs etiquitte of goodposting by not saging, and saging when making a snarky or ironic metapost. The threads with the highest sage/nonsage ratio were usually the most entertaining.

Also, it was understood to sage in order to hide a funthread from janny.

>>13596756
I sage'd whenever I felt like my post wasn't contributing to the board.
>>13596706
It took away translated VN threads discussion to an extent (which had people who could later on move to untranslated titles) and the JRPG thread. Almost took away the Ar Tonelico threads too.

>>13593776
>just like "who you quote" doesn't help anything.
WRONGWRONGWRONG

>>13596771
A high sage/nonsage ratio indicated a high autism level. Yet another reason why blue anon threads were fine too.

/jp/ is probably the greatest example of elitism going horribly wrong.

>>13593478
>a Japanese themed /b/.
You mean nijiura.

tsk

get rid of the generals and /jp/ is the best board on 4chan by far
also more touhou is needed

>>13596771
>It took away translated VN threads discussion to an extent (which had people who could later on move to untranslated titles) and the JRPG thread. Almost took away the Ar Tonelico threads too.
Might as well blame /vg/ for not taking away boatfags and mobile-game-of-the-month threads then. VN general over there just gives enough exposure to make newcomers suitable for migration to /jp/, I don't see a problem with that.
It's not the question of how much quality content was taken away, it's rather about how much cancer was shoved here.

>>13596494
Using the term "normie" and greentexting tells me everything I need to know about you.

>>13596788
It really doesn't.

>>13596462
The problem happened long before Kancolle - which started in /jp/, by the way, and very literally should not be in /a/ - when "board culture" became synonymous with "underaged shitposting".

Boards which lose their culture are subject to ruin.

>>13596870
Kancolle should've been evicted when it got an anime.
Introduced/invasive species destroy an established ecosystem.

>>13596897
Can't destroy which was already destroyed.

>>13597193
Can fix it though. So go back to not destroying >>>/a/.

>>13597233
hahahah

I mostly browse 8ch now. It's nice there.
Also the css on their /jp/ is awesome.

>>13597233
see >>13596410

/jp/ is completely fucking broken. Deal with it.

>>13597307
You don't have a single fucking clue so feel free to shut the fuck up.

>>13597337
remember

no thanking

>>13596788
As much as you might think it helps you fit in like a big boy who gets to join in on the cool /jp/ memes, it doesn't help, also fuck off

>>13597371
It does help, I have witnessed it.

Due to it, /jp/ has next to no greentexting stories.

>>13597307
>Deal with it.
That's what I'm doing in >>13597233 if you haven't noticed yet. Applies to you as well.

>>13597381
probably because people who post them get told to fuck off, not because of every minor greentext having kiddies spam "who ye quote"

>>13597393
I don't know, "who ye quote" happens on a much more frequent frequency than "fuck off".

There were general threads in 2008.

https://archive.moe/jp/search/text/general%20thread/type/op/order/asc/

>>13597663
Also this.

>>13596502
It's not like /jp/'s posts aren't any better than /vg/, nowadays.

>>13596897
>>13597233
That's like giving CPR to a severed head.

>>13597668
I miss those big brother stickers

>>13596410
How can you actually imply that Nocturnes were ever literally a bad thing?

>>13596897
Blaming Kancolle for "destroying the ecosystem of /jp/" is some of the most hilariously misplaced blame I've seen posted and people blame a LOT of stupid things for why /jp/ is shit.

>>13597872
>How can you actually imply that Nocturnes were ever literally a bad thing?
Nocturnes the mediocre bad writing project was not particularly bad or particularly great, but he's probably talking about the one who spammed a thousand threads of it for shits and giggles.

>>13597945
Was that the one with the goofy looking owl?

>>13597966
That was the one.

>>13596820
It actually is a matter of how much content was taken away because you need a certain amount of content present at all times if you don't want the board to go to shitposting hell. As bad as /a/ and /v/ are, it's difficult for one dedicated shitposter to make either board substantially worse than it is, whereas in /jp/ two or three autistic morons could (and did) make the entire board basically unusable.

At some point they substantially upgraded the mod tools so it doesn't matter anymore, but that was after everything had already been shit for years.

>>13597399
Responding to a certain kind of behavior with a shitty canned post does discourage that behavior but it also contributes to the whole board being stupid. There is a certain level of quality the board should be at before you start whining about cosmetic shit like greentext unless it's exceptionally awful. Watching people defend /jp/ from "the evil crossie scum" in the height of 2012 was monstrously fucking stupid, like worrying about jaywalking when people are being murdered in the streets.

>>13598025
/jp/ might be stupid, but it is those shitty canned post that keeps /jp/ from being more stupid.

If you want to fix it /jp/, do it, I'm just gonna protect what's left of /jp/ culture.

So how many people sincerely take the Touhou vs Kancolle bullshit seriously? I mean, I was kind of depressed at first, then I realized I didn't like the direction the series was taking after Subterranean Animism and UFO, and realized it's really flinging shit around about it. Still sad, tho.

>>13598092
>/jp/ might be stupid, but it is those shitty canned post that keeps /jp/ from being more stupid.
Shitty canned posts have mostly contributed to /jp/ being incredibly fucking stupid. The plus side is you get slightly less of the unwanted behavior. The minus side is that you get legions of retarded children who feel like they're fitting into "/jp/ culture" by spamming shitty canned memes that should have died years ago.

>/jp/ culture.
Of all the things you latch onto as "/jp/ culture", you pick a shitty meme forced by a retarded tripfag IRC cabal long since removed from /jp/. Awesome.

>>13598113
Maybe I'm blinded by my own legions but I don't see how my canned response is any way stupid.

>>13598092
That's cool, but how you jerk off to a mug of Jone's ugly kike face while you do it.

>>13598118
It's a post designed entirely to irritate the person it was posted at. You know damn well he wasn't quoting anyone, at which point the discussion either devolves into shitposting about "the proper use of the Usenet quote function" or one person gives up.

>>13598121
I would sage my own post too since it's irrelevant.

You guys stick to 2008 /jp/ or some fantasy /jp/, I stick to Golden age 2012 /jp/ where /jp/sies were free.

>>13598138
Which is why it's good, it's meant to shame that they are doing it wrong on this board, it's short and it's memorable.

>>13598139
>Golden age 2012 /jp/
Every root and stem of the 2012 cancer which choked the former culture to death should be systematically purged from /jp/.

>>13598143
It's like the "no thanking shit." Did that actually stop people from thanking anyone? Yes, it did, at the cost of reducing the Comiket that thread that year to a bombed-out crater. It promotes a culture of getting your way by spamming shitty posts.

>>13598148
I dare say the 2012 culture was greater and more unique than post-/a/ 2008 culture.

>>13598150
If these people get their ass hurt by tiny little canned posts on the internet, they deserve everything going to them.

>>13598151
They were almost exactly the same.

>>13598161
It's not.

Post-/a/ 2008 culture (2008 /jp/) is a lot closer to /a/, while 2012 /jp/ is closer to /b/.

>>13598151
The primary features of 2012 culture are pretending to be retarded, shitposting, continuous warfare against mods, samefagging and lying out your ass, blogging about retarded shit, forcing your personal vision on the board and generally being an insufferable shit.

>>13598157
Is your "ass hurt" when you see greentext? No, you discourage it because you think it's shitty posting.

>>13598167
>No, you discourage it because you think it's shitty posting.
I don't think greentext is shitty posting, just that it's unnecessary, and /jp/ is much better for reading mainly because people don't greentext every mother fucking thing.

Not to mention to use greentext to paraphrase leads to saying shit people didn't say, which degrades argument even more.

And yes I did prefer my little rebel /jp/ over fucking soft pussy bitch /jp/ right now.

>>13598092
Here's a question for you. Do you "the /jp/ police" was actually trying to protect the bad posts and wasn't just trying to make an ass of himself?

>>13598179
>and /jp/ is much better for reading mainly because people don't greentext every mother fucking thing.
People didn't "greentext every mother fucking thing" long before Jones forced his shitty canned meme on the board and they won't greentext everything after we finally put this garbage meme to rest.

>Not to mention to use greentext to paraphrase leads to saying shit people didn't say, which degrades argument even more.
The "who are you quoting thing" has never worked on these people, because harassing people off the board doesn't work when they're out to make people angry.

>little rebel /jp/
Old /jp/ rebelled just fine when mods dis stupid shit. The entire board rose up in backlash against retarded decisions, which would be reversed.

Your "little rebel /jp/" is was made with rebels without a cause or a brain, the equivalent of people burning cars for this and giggles until the cops arrive and shoot everyone.

>>13598092
Here's a question for you. Do you "the /jp/ police" was actually trying to protect the board from bad posts and wasn't just trying to make an ass of himself?

>>13598179
>and /jp/ is much better for reading mainly because people don't greentext every mother fucking thing.
People didn't "greentext every mother fucking thing" long before Jones forced his shitty canned meme on the board and they won't greentext everything after we finally put this garbage meme to rest.

>Not to mention to use greentext to paraphrase leads to saying shit people didn't say, which degrades argument even more.
The "who are you quoting thing" has never worked on these people, because harassing people off the board doesn't work when they're out to make people angry.

>little rebel /jp/
Old /jp/ rebelled just fine when mods did stupid shit. The entire board rose up in backlash against retarded decisions, which would be reversed. Your "little rebel /jp/" was made with rebels without a cause or a brain, the equivalent of people burning cars for shits and giggles until the cops arrive and shoot everyone.

>>13598189
I would like to see that "who ye quote" has worked, considering the rest of site have embraced greentext to the point where they say things in greentext now just to grab attention. /jp/ has been relatively free from this taint, and I attribute this to "who ye quote" because for some reasons it enrages any kind of people greentexting.

You might be right about the finesse of old 2008 /jp/, but I simply prefer 2012 /jp/ more, people were more unique, and the old 2008 /jp/ is gone anyway, there's no going back to that.

>>13598195
Since I don't spam "who ye quote" for no fucking reason, no, I think I'm on the former.

>>13598210
People were not "more unique." People were more LOL RANDOM. Old /jp/ had plenty of unique posters. There were enough "regulars" that you could regularly enter threads and recognize people with a distinctive style - a style other than "I'm going to spam the board with the same images until everybody knows who I am."

2008 /jp/ gave you the freedom to be alone if you didn't want to play along with everyone's retard games. 2012 /jp/ insisted on getting the entire board involved, laying waste to the boards and everyone's threads in part of their idiotic campaign against moderation mostly for existing.

>there's no going back to that
There's no going back to that because retards from 2012 had no respect for board culture and choked the life out of it. Rewarding that behavior is disgusting.

>because for some reasons it enrages any kind of people greentexting.
Probably because it's a deliberately stupid shitposting remnant that should have died long ago.

>>13598230
Since it basically goes from opinion vs opinion now, I like 2012, you prefer 2008 I wouldn't argue further.
>Probably because it's a deliberately stupid shitposting remnant that should have died long ago.
Well, it helped. It helped /jp/ to be relatively free from greentexting, so I'm gonna keep doing it. The end.

>>13598244
>I like 2012, you prefer 2008 I wouldn't argue further.
You insufferable shits should have gone elsewhere and made your own fucking community instead of invading and destroying one that already existed.

>Well, it helped. It helped /jp/ to be relatively free from greentexting, so I'm gonna keep doing it. The end.
The primary problem with this retarded shit is that it encouraged cancerous retards to force their vision on the board via shitposting, which you cheerlead all the way home.

>>13598255
Don't they already have ota or that gnfos board

>>13598230
>recognize people with a distinctive style
That's because they all had trips.

>>13598255
I'm sorry, friend.

Both 2008 and 2012 people have left, I myself decide to follow the 2012 vision, I don't know about you but I liked that vision.

>>13598275
The fact that some 2008 people are still around notwithstanding (because 98% of them are gone), 2008 people have left because YOU MADE THEM LEAVE.

Three years may have passed but the 2012 retards are the still the same cancerous shitposting newfags they were when they first got here, and there's no reason to turn over what's left of the board to them other than maybe the fact that it's unsalvageably shit.

>>13598310
Well, survival of the fittest, unless you want to use janny and mods to ban all of us.

>>13598314
I truly am overjoyed that the days when you could win an argument just by shitposting the entire board to death when you didn't get your way have ended. Staff may be made of newfags, but at least they're not the last remnants of a cancerous invasion that should never have been allowed to take root.

>>13598328
Well, we are on opposite path then. I prefer self-moderation.

>>13598338
Self-moderation is dead because it started relying on singular persistent retards winning victories through shitposting and spam rather than a collective effort by the board. Go to /b/ already if you really want to live in a lawless land.

>>13598354
Here comes J.

>>13598359
I don't know what kind of response you expected when your image of the ideal self-moderated board is an unrestricted invasion by shitposting children who destroyed the community I used to post in.

>>13598210
yeah i really missed tokiko, fukune, sudo, etc.

oh wait, no i don't

>>13598384
What about Marisa, BOOF (they are mostly on /k/ now) and Anonymous of Croatia?

>>13598369
The 2012 won over the 2008.

Vae victis!

>>13598414
You''re basically at the point where you're saying that you annihilated old /jp/ just because you could. Congratulations on destroying a community. The only mystery is why you're proud of it.

>>13598369
>who destroyed the community I used to post in.
I don't know what sort of idealized world you come from, but people, especially in online communities, are in a constant shift, and so you either accept and adapt to the change or become a grumpy old man that always complains about how the good old times were much better. Of course, you're free to do whatever you want, but it becomes kind of annoying when people like you won't pipe down about how they posted on /b/ in 2004 and it was the best thing ever.

I did, by the way, and it was just a bunch of children playing games. Much like today.

>>13598423
Because as I said, I prefer 2012 /jp/.

>>13598428
Community shifts should, ideally, happen over time, and not be the results of near-complete population turnovers by invading retards harassing the old population off the board.

>bunch of children playing games
All communities everywhere are children playing games but they're not all the same.

>>13598431
You're fucking disgusting.

>>13598436
I hope one day you will come to term with me.

>>13598440
You didn't care what anyone thought back when you shitposted the existing community off the board, so why would you start caring now?

>>13598464
Because I want to make peace with olden /jp/.

We aren't much left.

>>13598408
What the fuck happened to Croatia

/q/ killed everything still good about 4chan. It's all /q/'s fault.

>>13598545
What did /q/ do?

One day, one day a /jp/sies will make a visual novel detailing the chronicles of /jp/ from dust to dawn.

Jaypee Senki.

>>13598644
By that time nobody would remember /jp/ history anymore.

Why is /jp/ so shitty?

>>13598662
>>13598662
Ssshh. No tears. Only ｄｒｅａｍｓnow. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, jaypee. Let's not glorify the past. Let's glorify the future.

>>13598835
A lot of people saw it as shit and treated it as such.

>>13598849
I'm a nostalgic man, the future holds no promise for me.

>>13598436
>Community shifts should, ideally, happen over time, and not be the results of near-complete population turnovers by invading retards harassing the old population off the board.
Oh fuck off. What really killed /jp/ are /a/v/b/ fucks and these awful generals filled with redditors and tumblrfags and their ridiculous sense of privilege acting like they fucking own the place or deserve something (not unlike you). This place was always a shitposting den--it was created for 2hu shitposters.

Now we have fags everywhere taking themselves way too seriously and dragging in their retarded memes shit from elsewhere. It was legitimately better when shit threads were deservingly shitposted into oblivion and the general atmosphere was so incomprehensible that it kept out crossboarders. I'll take nightly flanfly threads over the two constant kancolle threads at any given time. I'll take gloryhole ironic boyslut threads over actual 3D slut JAV/idol threads. I'll take neet threads over these stupid unironic crossboarder weeb threads. At least no one took the shitposting threads seriously and at least they weren't so self-important that they actually thought they deserved a constant space carved out for them on this board. They seemed to understand what this board was actually for. Honestly, for those who want something like a general thread for specific hobbies and interests, how about trying a fucking forum. That's what you're actually looking for.

Also, whoever's doing the naiceposting. Good job. Seriously, it's a breath of fresh air. That's actually saying something considering.

>>13598890
>What really killed /jp/ are /a/v/b/ fucks and these awful generals filled with redditors and tumblrfags and their ridiculous sense of privilege acting like they fucking own the place
Generals are a result of /jp/ being shit, not the cause. The only place any generalfag has tried to "own" is their single thread, mostly because people decide to make the rest of the board mostly unusable. Shitposting has consequences.

>the general atmosphere was so incomprehensible that it kept out crossboarders
The people making that "incomprehensible" shit atmosphere were retarded children and almost certainly from somewhere else.

>>13598890
General threads have been around since the start.

>>13597289
Their /jp/ is nice. I've mostly stuck to small boards for a few years (visit /tc/ occasionally as well), they have a sense of community you can't really get anywhere else. Back to 4/jp/, I ended up hating this place because of how stagnant it became, just looking at the catalog the board is about 80% generals, 15% touhou shitposting and 5% threads that actually try to talk about something new.

When it comes to generals why don't you faggots ever start a thread about some subject with a unique angle or idea rather than "Kancolle/Idol/Monster Girl/etc. General #512"? Don't formalize the name so faggots can easily find their little hugboxes, make people look through the rest of the board so they actually interact with it and put thought into your OPs to get a decent discussion going. Make people think and contribute something novel that /jp/sies who don't usually visit those threads would be interested in, otherwise you just end up with these shitty subcommunities separated off into their little corners of the board with no one actually interacting with anyone else outside those threads.

Add to that it feels like the place has slowly become overrun with normalfags and the self-moderation associated with old /jp/ of NEETs outshitposting retarded newfags that try to troll them is also long gone (along with those NEETs themselves). It's just a containment board for generals the janitors don't want shitting up other boards at this stage.

>>13598911
>Make people think and contribute something novel that /jp/sies who don't usually visit those threads would be interested in, otherwise you just end up with these shitty subcommunities separated off into their little corners of the board with no one actually interacting with anyone else outside those threads.
There's this leftover notion of elitism in /jp/ that before you are allowed to talk about something you have to be some sort of goddamn fucking expert in it, one which has long since outlived its purpose. Remember when people would actually make threads for translated VNs? Now it's just "we all played that years ago, fuck off to /vg/ if you didn't read it in Japanese when it first came out four years ago."

That community sense of "we're all in this together", where people would work hard to produce OC for the board and do their best to share things with others is long since gone. I lost it myself ages ago.

>>13598909
Not in the nowadays style with the stupid shit like xx edition, that's /v/ - /vg/ shit.

Though I'm sorta happy that some generals die over times.

>>13598911
And yet you're still here.

>>13598929
Mostly because I don't feel the people who post about translated VNs are /jp/sies, they are newfags, normalfags who just want some quick spoonfeeding before getting the hell outta the board.

I have no obligation to help them, even as an EOP.

We from the good old days are waiting for you. All you have to do is to proof yourself worthy and find us.
We may be few but I promise you that our new /jp/ is TWICE as good

>>13598931
Are you really just complaining about the way the OP is formatted?

>>13598953
It's more that the style leads to /v/ and /vg/ shady types.

>>13598952
8ch's /jp/ is 90% blog threads and gets like one post a day.

>>13598945
>newfags
We were all newfags at some point. Somebody had to fill us in.

>who just want some quick spoonfeeding before getting the hell outta the board.
If /jp/ actually had threads for translated VNs they'd have a reason to stay and incorporate. The best you have is VNTS which is pretty much just shitposting about translation around the clock.

Apparently these days /vg/'s visual novel thread is now the /jp/ onboarding process and people are fine with that. I still think it's a shit model.

>>13598980
It being slow helps, it's a close-knit community.

>>13598989
There is no need for them to stay.

I was a newfag too and I didn't need any welcome.

>>13598909
>>13598953
Don't even try to act as if it's the same shit. There's a difference between 10% of the board being generals (VN/language/Idol/Umineko general back then) and the catalog being absolutely full of them. The threads are cancerous, but a small number of them is manageable while a large amount dominating the board certainly isn't.

>>13598933
I don't think I've been here since some certain logs ended up public. I checked up earlier today to see if anything much had improved since I've read pretty much everything I want to on 8/jp/ and /tc/ and I saw the meta thread up.

>>13599012
I don't know which /jp/ you're browsing, but the Touhou threads here outweigh the generals by a large margin.

>>13599007
How long did you lurk before you started posting, then? Nobody ever caught you being new?

In any case, posters are constantly being introduced to aspects of the board they happen to not be experts in. I had been posting in /jp/ for years before I got around to checking out denpa (well, I had to learn Japanese first). "Introductory threads" are kind of shitty but they also knit the existing community together.

>>13599034
People caught me for being new.

I actually spent nearly two weeks just browsing archive (shoulda spent 3 months) because shit's too interesting while occasionally post sometimes.

>>13599049
While it would be exciting if everybody came into /jp/ being a full-fledged expert in every board topic and a broad knowledge of /jp/ history, that's not a reasonable expectation.

Even back in the day when people did lurk, watching retards get called out for bad behavior was one of the easiest ways to learn what not to do and thereby adapt to the board. If nobody explains the culture it's hard to follow (especially because /jp/ is filled with multiple cultures anyway)

>>13599012
Of the 147 threads currently up, 20 of them are generals of some kind.

>>13599029
Front page:
>Kancolle general
>Rhythm games general
>this meta thread
>AKB general
>another Kancolle general (why the fug is there two of them?)
>Reitaisai 12 thread
>2hu funposting
>JAV general
>Valkyrie Crusade general
>2hu funposting
>General Nutaku General :^)
>2hu funposting
>2hu funposting
>2hu funposting
>2hu funposting
Dank as heck.

>>13599098
And a billion more Touhou threads after that.

>>13599098
>>13599098
When has /jp/ ever been just the first page? There's around 77 Touhou threads up right now. 52% of the board. They're almost all imagedumps of one character or variations on "wch 2hu wdu fuk".

>>13598592
Post a bunch of dumb shit that moot and mods were dumb enough to listen to.

>>13598890
>at least they weren't so self-important that they actually thought they deserved a constant space carved out for them on this board.

Bullshit. A large part of shitpost and spam was from autistic people who got pissed for some stupid reason. Because the mod deleted their shitty thread, or they lost in an mmo to a bunch of neets who weren't even trying, or they didn't get their story accepted, or some other such thing and then they would flood the board with dumb shit.

>>13599233
Also there's the neet thread makers who are tied into the whole ironic shitposting thing that made up most of the remainder of shitposts, who did believe neet/hikki/depression threads deserved a place for some reason.

>>13599241
>who did believe neet/hikki/depression threads deserved a place for some reason.
Literally /jp/ heritage.

Fun fact: the person who burned those threads to the ground was a terminal NEET himself, probably because he got frustrated at how "ironically" shit they'd become.

>>13599246
Weren't NEET threads always accepted as being bad, like you're ashamed of posting in them?

>>13599249
There was a always a vague notion that you shouldn't blog "too much" and that you "should feel bad" for posting in them, mostly a big song and dance aimed at trying to make sure it didn't overrun the board or result in narcissistic faggots blogging about what they had for breakfast (which eventually happened). People liked them, though.

Would /jp/'s culture improve if most generals were banned?

>>13599262
Would /jp/'s culture improve if Touhou was banned?

>>13599266
would there be any /jp/ left?

>>13599271
47% of it. You can't act like general threads are a problem and just ignore all the inane as hell Touhou threads. /v/ has Touhou threads regularly, by the way, so I don't want to hear anything about crossies.

>>13599290
how much % without generals or touhou?

>>13599297
30%. A large number of which are Idolmaster threads kept alive for ungodly amounts of time.

>>13599290
>You can't act like general threads are a problem and just ignore all the inane as hell Touhou threads.
Only /jp/ has always been 2hu and the shitty generals have been fairly recent.

Yes, generals have long been part of /jp/, but not like this.

>>13599318
Oh I missed a general. 29% then.

>>13599262
>>>/qa/122041

Relevant thread.

If by most generals, you mean all 3D ones, then yes, it would improve immensely. Even with the monstergirl threads still around. (/jp/ never had a problem with monstergirls and whatnot before it was a general anyway)

>>13599290
/jp/ is a Touhou containment board.

>>13599297
Well MMO, Doujin game, and random eroge(like Illusion) discussion is almost dead, so not much. Mostly just VNs and learning Japanese threads. Oh and all those normiephone games if they broke up from generals.

>>13599329
>/jp/ is a Touhou containment board.
It was also a board for a lot of other things.

>Don't allow any one thing to dominate this board-condense your fucking threads.
The end result was that everything but Touhou got condensed into generals.

Do you guys still flanfly at the same time every day? Or do old habits die hard.

>>13599329
What part of MMO discussion isn't dead?

Last thread was deleted by a mod.

>>13599290
Touhou threads are basically filler that fills up the board when there's nothing else to talk about. There used to be a lot more filler, like endless TYPE-MOON wankery, but all of it is in /vg/, /a/, or just dead.

Removing content doesn't magically make new content spring up in its place, it just removes content.

>>13599347
There's just nothing Type-moon to talk about.

TM shit is anime adaptation now, and we don't talk about that here.

Everyone who knows jap already read Mahouyo and EOP still wait for translation.

>>13599290
>/v/ has Touhou threads regularly, by the way, so I don't want to hear anything about crossies.
I know ours are bad, but theirs are so much worse, and you can immediately tell when a /v/ crossboarder is posting in a /jp/ touhou thread.

>>13599262
Yes.

Why is jav even here, when it'd be much happier on a porn board? Those boards are slow enough that their little general wouldn't get bumped off, and it'd be more relevant to them than it is to /jp/.

Most of the time, they're just swapping mega and torrent links, posting girls they think are cute, and talking about the content of videos. They don't actually post many images, something I feel is constrained by the fact /jp/ is a blue board.

>>13599098
/jp/ is being overrun by posters like this.

>>13599352
There's Strange/Fake, Prototype: Fragments, and Apocrypha, I think, I don't actually follow the franchise.

Also there's been nothing new EoSD to talk about for a decade but we still get vampire loli threads all the time, same with pretty much everything else. Yeah, there's been four or five "current event" threads ever since Reimu bashed someone's head in, but most Touhou threads are still random wankery.

>>13599343
Also the closest thing to those kind of posts is already getting tinfoil hat faggots going apeshit and backseat moderation about what everyone else posts when it's within the rules and politely condensed so far.

>>13554264

It's always the same kind of people.

>>13599356
These are pretty much fetish threads, but the lore threads are taking hold. They are even more popular than the STG general which is dead.

>>13599343
That wasn't anything but one of those threads where someone wants to get people to play TERA with them. People still talk about RO occasionally, and when ToS comes out, it'll probably be present on /jp/ for all the two weeks anyone plays it.

>>13598929
>There's this leftover notion of elitism in /jp/ that before you are allowed to talk about something you have to be some sort of goddamn fucking expert in it,
What don't you understand about otaku culture, and imageboards in general?

We don't come here to learn, we come here primarily to discuss. If you want to learn, learn by reading the thread or searching, not by asking and disrupting the flow of conversation and wasting post counts.

>>13598965
>>13598931
More and more of them look like they were ripped straight out of /v/ and /vg/, which they were, but

>>13599353
>posters like this
>posted regularly back in 08-11
Truly, the worst sort of poster.

If only ZUN!bar was here...

>>13599362
>We don't come here to learn, we come here primarily to discuss.
People learn by talking to each other. If I already knew everything you knew and you knew everything I knew, there would be no point us having a discussion.

>disrupting the flow of conversation
This only matters when all the discussion is being confined to a big general thread like VN general. A new thread about Yume Miru Kusuri isn't disrupting the flow of anything except maybe /jp/'s unbroken chain combo of thirty consecutive Touhou threads.

>wasting post counts.
I hope we don't run out soon.

>>13599361
Yes, it is kind of obvious when someone speaks about korean garbage being from /vg/.

It just feels sorta amiss to say any discussion is even allowed in the first place when this kind of moderation happens often and it's condoned, there doesn't seem to be any of relevancy as it's been censored and it probably should stay that way, unfortunately.

I've seen other boards get their own rulings corrected after countless events and I never see a word about people backseat moderating and flaming, it's almost like a meme.

Sometimes I miss report function.

>>13593069
Me too dude, I hate New Mexico with a burning passion.

>>13599336
Moot's first mistake was being scared of hot-glue.

His second mistake was not letting the board be non-worksafe.

His final mistake was not axing it.

Everyone would be so much happier if /jp/ wasn't here. All the games could go into /v/ or /vg/. The 3d types would carve out their niche in /mu/ or /s/, the monster girls could either stick in /a/ or deal with /vg/ or realize they're wasting their lives and give up their dumb fetish and go back to calling them kemonomimi like decent people. Neets would go to /r9k/, anime posters back to /a/. There's really no reason to post here, if only everyone would stop dumping their shit in /jp/ because "muh friends r here".

And don't say those other boards are shit. You came here and brought that same shit with you and now /jp/ is shit too.

>>13598890
>these awful generals filled with redditors and tumblrfags

Those "redditors" and "tumblrfags"? That's original /jp/ posters. They enclosed themselves in generals to avoid, well, /a/b/v/ fucks like you.

(With the obvious exception of the monstergirl general, which is just a chunk of pure undiluted /a/ posted on a wrong board. But I digress.)

>This place was always a shitposting den--it was created for 2hu shitposters.
No, this place was created for what people on /a/ considered wrongposting. Which, unsurprisingly, turned out to be everything BUT shitposting. Until you fags decided /a/ is not enough for you, that is.

>I'll take (...) over (...)
And I'll take all of them over you.

>>13599389
I don't think /jp/ should be a yellow board, but I'd prefer it being a little bit laxer with naughty pics.

>>13599389
>NEETs would go to /r9k/
I'd rather go to gensokyo

>>13599389
If /jp/ were pink it would just be porn dumps everywhere.

>muh friends r here
The "my friends are here" era is over. Now people are just here because they got thrown out of wherever they were before.

>>13599358
And before you say ignore them, it's always like this.

The most important aspect of /jp/ is being able to take it easy.
I can't do that here anymore since I'm too scared if someone bringing down the hammer on me if they don't like my post.
I'm feeling constantly watched.
Can't take it easy like this

>>13599423
You were probably watched for a good reason then.

>>13599432
As much as I hate "the shitposters" the mods fucked up countless times while they were at war, particularly when they decided it it was their job to delete even on-topic threads for arbitrarily failing some random quality criteria.

If this were 2013 this thread would be deleted and we'd all be banned except maybe the people who the staff liked.

>>13599407
>Now people are just here because they got thrown out of wherever they were before.
That's what it was to begin with. /jp/ is a ghetto. It's why it hates the other boards so much.

>If /jp/ were pink it would just be porn dumps everywhere.
It is just porn dumps everywhere. It's just that it's fat porn and fart porn and foot porn and giantism porn and "worksafe" giant tits and stuff. People aren't afraid to post NSFW stuff in drawing threads, JAV, VN, Doll, Kig, and monstergirl generals anyway. Might as well be able to discuss Eroge properly. It'd be more leverage to get 3D threads pushed off to /s/ and /hc/ too.

>>13599443
No argument there. The shitposters and dumbass mods are equally annoying.

>>13599444
>People aren't afraid to post NSFW stuff in drawing threads, JAV, VN, Doll, Kig, and monstergirl generals anyway.
Every now and then somebody will post something NSFW but it's still a minority of what gets posted, often spoilered to boot, and I highly prefer it that way.

I don't like the JAV thread but honestly as long as they're posting pictures I don't really give much of a shit.

>>13599443
Yes, I totally second this though, it's what I also had in mind. Also, try earlier than 2013, like, 2010.

This feels like a post that would've gone in /q/ of all places if it even still existed and had any people posting seriously and taking feedback out of each other in a decent way, nevertheless, it's still a tad meta in this exact board and I have no idea why we're still allowed to post.

I was just pointing out that you made it sound like you were some kind of memeposter, it's now clear to me that every little shit is probably sleeping or in school at this hour.

>>13599451
Why do you want them to post pictures so much? This is a discussion board. Back when they were still edging their way into the boards, the mods wouldn't allow them to just dump pictures without talking.

>>13599454
Back in 2010 meta was still allowed, and they'd delete the thread no harm done after a few hours. I think. It's been a while.

That post was actually not mine, but I do sympathize with it.

>>13599458
>Back when they were still edging their way into the boards, the mods wouldn't allow them to just dump pictures without talking.
... which thread are you complaining about in particular? Dolls? All of them?

>>13599458
That's because a lot of people used autoposting scripts to make dump threads and horrible counter-replies to people who they didn't want to listen to.

If it weren't for them all kinds of imagedumps would be allowed, on the other hand, this is yet another case of putting everyone in the same blame when it shouldn't be that way.

>>13599458
>>13599473
Oh FUCK, sorry, I didn't write what I meant to - I meant "as long as they're not posting pictures" but I wrote the exact opposite and didn't realize it.

>>13599473
I think so, but the main point is that moot still posted actively around 2010 and cared enough to make a sticky where everyone got banned for not attending a con in Japan with him.

Sometimes I miss that kind of havoc in my life, it was fun to get someone upset over something silly like that, but it's always been strange how post /jp/ has always been such a heavily moderated containment board but mods care about some really personal details like that to the point of getting so hotheaded about it, even when everything is their own fucking fault or they have no reason to actually do the things they do.

>>13599498
Post /a/ /jp/*.

/a/ rarely had these kind of dramas. Goes to show how autistic this board's userbase usually is, come to think of it.

In summary: /jp/ ruined itself.

Is there honestly anyone out there who would be unhappy if they split a /jpg/ off of /jp/?

If what's left of /jp/ dies as a result they can just axe it like moot wanted to back in the day.

>>13599443
>they decided it it was their job to delete even on-topic threads for arbitrarily failing some random quality criteria.

That was during the time when the shitposters would compete in making the worst "on-topic" thread they could think of and see how far they can push the board's Overton window.

So it went in the other direction. Good decision.

>If this were 2013 this thread would be deleted

And it should be.

>>13599508
That's actually a really interesting idea.

Make a general version of /jp/ that will probably not suck as much as 90% of /vg/ and leave the dumps and dumbposting to /jp/. Probably get the bits that were missing in /jp/ and got moved to /vg/ or /a/ too.

>>13599514
Jannie detected.

>>13599508
>>13599516
So it'd be like a... Japan General?

>>13599526
Just like old times.

Do you realize all this metaposting will solve nothing?
Mods babysit this thread so we can vent our anger but will ultimately do no nothing, just add more people to their watchlist of dissenting posters.

>>13599514
>That was during the time when the shitposters would compete in making the worst "on-topic" thread they could think of and see how far they can push the board's Overton window.
And in the process ended up pissing off the majority of the users who had no qualms about those threads and were making and posting in them unironically.
Stellar job Team 4shit.

>>13599507
/jp/'s shitposters, /jp/'s normal posters reporting literally everything, the archives of /jp/ allowing a ghost posting subculture to form in the midst of the split after the first archive died, and those idiots who have tried to stomp out anything creative or productive /jp/ did ever.

>>13599516
So you want Japan/General to exist again?

>>13599514
I had several of my own on-topic threads deleted because someone shat them up and the mods couldn't be bothered to do their job. And then there's just random shit like deleting every thread mentioning Touhou and Kancolle in the same breadth, or killing the only thread announcing the new Idolmaster game (which as far as I'm concerned, was the final straw that made IM@S leave for good aside from Hibiki butt threads.)

>>13599516
It'd probably end up taking DJT and the waifu threads from /a/ if it existed.

>>13599516
>>13599508
/jg/, /japanese games general/ when?

>>13599516
>leave the dumps and dumbposting to /jp/

No need for a separate board, just move them to /a/, they'll fit right in.

>>13599537
All good to me.

Just don't allow dumb posts like waifu roulettes and shit.

>>13599544
Interesting suggestion too.

>>13599533
>Mods babysit this thread so we can vent our anger but will ultimately do no nothing, just add more people to their watchlist of dissenting posters.

I like/hate? how over time the anti mod group has become this tinfoil hat level crazy group that believes it's their job to subvert the mods. I mean they're gone as far as hiding tiny unnoticeable images of cats and stuff in images because they think people will keep posting them over and over and then one day the mods will notice every image on /jp/ has tiny cats in it and become angry or something.

>>13599533
>Mods babysit this thread so we can vent our anger but will ultimately do no nothing, just add more people to their watchlist of dissenting posters.

I don't care about /jp'/ anymore then.

That's all the more reasons to evacuate people to greener pastures.

>>13599561
I mean at one point, they got into this loop of making shitty threads just so they would be deleted as >>13599514 said, but then get actually mad about them being deleted and then post spam, and then get that deleted and then become even more angry and go post angry posts on the archive about it, then go make and make more threads to be deleted.

>>13599561
Most people on /jp/ have been banned for ban evasion at least once.
And not because of the zealousness of rule enforcement.

tfw reminiscing about /jp

>>13599572
Mixed into there were plenty of perfectly ordinary posters mad that their perfectly ordinary threads got banned for "containing a meme" or not having a robotic high-quality on-topic OP full of discussion-inducing questions.

>>13599573
I have evaded bans many times (not currently) but the only time I ever got a ban evasion ban was when I was not evading and mistaken for someone who was.

>>13593854
Seems Konngara is one of the Devas before she left the group and became Fudo Myoo disciple with another Oni.

>>13599573
So why is it that you suddenly jump into that defensive position telling us that you ban evaded ''like everyone else''. What does that have to do with cat meme people, unless you're one of them.

I haven't ban evaded, I served my bans, and I don't think you're innocent.

>>13599796
None.
I was talking about the moderation or the evident lack of it.

There are justified bans and there are bans for evasion which is the mods way of saying "I dont like ur face lol", which is a clear abuse of power.
Accusations of being a proxy or a pedo might apply, as anything else where they don't have to link the actual rule breaking post.

>>13599290
/jp/ was made for 2hu. Banning it would be like banning 40k from /tg/.

>>13599820
Are you Trevor.

This is like some pity reply bait Trevor would say to try to get a compensation out of getting banned for having a dynamic IP.

>>13599823
see
>>13599336

>>13599796
>I haven't ban evaded, I served my bans
Me too. That hasn't stopped me from getting banned on this board for "ban evasion" three times in the past year all of which I warmly waited three days and appealed.

>>13596820
>VN general over there just gives enough exposure to make newcomers suitable for migration to /jp/
No, not really, specially when out of nowhere a bunch of butthurt pseudo-elitists started forcing jone's stupid meme and trying as hard as possible to stir up meta discussions and trying to look superior just because they can read japanese. It's fine to tell the person to not post in the thread because they want to talk talk about whatever they read through a translation, but the sort of attitude being propagated these days is retarded. It really looks like a few people from /a/ learned japanese and decided to invade the thread and force their retarded elitist mentality.

>>13599864
Pretty sure they are, and at least one of them is unironically from some shitty place like Baka-Tsuki.

They also tried to force /a/nimated light novels like Railgun into /jp/, until mods got pissy about LNs for some reason.

>>13599829
Dynamic IP is actually the norm outside of the US and maybe Australia. Guess why.

If they can tell someone is evading they should also be able to tell the original offense too.
I'm not talking about evasion from legitimate bans. These are all bullshit crazy fake bans for wanting to shut you up when you don't actually break any rules and mods want to avoid accountability.

Even if you appeal like this guy >>13599851 you are still effectively out of the game for 3 days while the original issue have been swept under the rug. In most households IPs reset every day so this often is not even an option, though.

>>13599838
I'm not saying that /jp/=/2hu/, it isn't. /tg/ is also far from being /40k/.
Both series are nevertheless essential parts of these 2 boards.

>>13599877
Ok Trevor.

I had dynamic IP and I got banned once for like 30 days, for ''ban evading'' because I used to have dynamic IP. I appealed, asked what was going on exactly, gave details and my ban was removed.

This is something you should be discussing privately with someone who works in 4chan if you can't appeal, not with us, there's even a mail if you feel like asking, it's no one's fault you have a retarded internet service.

You were probably banned for a reason, and so was your friend.

>>13599891
>You were probably banned for a reason, and so was your friend.
Hello "Trevor's friend" here, 2014+ /jp/ is the only place this has happened to me after 11 years posting on this site so don't act like it's some routine thing or my ISP is some magical minefield.

>>13599891
>I had dynamic IP and I got banned once for like 30 days, for ''ban evading'' because I used to have dynamic IP. I appealed, asked what was going on exactly, gave details and my ban was removed.
Why should I appeal for someone else's ban? Why should I take hours away from my life to appeal for an address I can change in seconds and would simply lose in a few hours or tomorrow at latest anyway? How should I even know if I'm evading someone else's ban just because we live in the same country?

>there's even a mail if you feel like asking
No, there isn't.
There is a magic box where you put your time in and get nothing back. There are already things called women for that.

>it's no one's fault you have a retarded internet service.
Spoken like a true retard. If everyone had a static IP people would be extremely vulnerable to private hackers and government surveillance.
Thank god I live in a free country where it's natural the ISPs don't bend over to Hollywood or the government and protect their users.

>You were probably banned for a reason, and so was your friend.
True, there was a reason, but mods not liking your face is not considered a valid one. That's why SA is a shithole.

>>13599936
Oh, what a shock.

Just like my one time I got banned for 30 days and then my ban was lifted which never happened again, which was over 4 years ago.

Wonder why you had to serve your ban.

>>13599947
>Just like my one time I got banned for 30 days and then my ban was lifted which never happened again, which was over 4 years ago.
>three times in the past year
Please try to keep up.
It's mind boggling that staff and ex-staff will defend this behavior while in the same turn calling the users "paranoid of the jans."

>>13599946
>Why should I appeal for someone else's ban?

How about you fucking post some proof that you aren't ban evading and serving a big ban?

>There is a magic box where you put your time in and get nothing back. There are already things called women for that.

Wat.

Jesus christ, grow up you fucking lazy autist.

How is anyone supposed to care that you weren't banned for a reason if you don't provide any reason to, to being with.

>Spoken like a true retard. If everyone had a static IP people would be extremely vulnerable to private hackers and government surveillance.
Dynamic IPs aren't even that common.

They are bought for people who usually have multiple networks and have some shit to do, not for some shady protection plan.

I wonder how bad AoC feels knowing him leaving in the end of 2010 ruined the board forever and people are still lamenting over it 4 years and a half later.

>>13599974
Shut the fuck up AoC

>>13599967
>How about you fucking post some proof that you aren't ban evading and serving a big ban?
Please, do tell, how the fuck am I supposed to post such proof?

>Wat.
You must be trolling.
https://www.4chan.org/contact
"Unban requests are not accepted via e-mail."

>Dynamic IPs aren't even that common.
Yes, they are. Dynamic IPs are the norm and you need to buy a static one as an extra, which 99% of the people don't need.

>They are bought for people who usually have multiple networks and have some shit to do, not for some shady protection plan.
Those who run webservers usually don't use the said server to watch porn or browse forums. They have their PC for that.
Heck, even my friend runs his private server on dynamic IP. If the network dies he just registers his new address on his account and that's it.

>>13599995
I never fucking said you had to ask to be unbanned, jesus.

You can fucking post proof in so many fucking way. Seriously, if this weren't /jp/ I would be really surprised at how autistic you are.

And there's no way dynamic IPs are the norm in your country. Proof: my country is in Europe and almost all the IPs are static.

Okay, can we stop pretending "ban evasion" bans aren't a thing? I had like half a dozen in the last year (some even technically "valid" because the previous one didn't run out yet), starting from last Reitaisai.

It's hardly even a nuisance, I just reset my IP and continue as if nothing happened because I'm not some warosu faggot. But it's obvious it's being used as "I don't like this poster but he's not breaking any actual rules".

>>13599974
In the janitor IRC leaks, he's kicking himself like every second post.

>>13600010
>You can fucking post proof in so many fucking way.
Nice examples. :^)

>Proof: my country is in Europe
Bongs and other nanny states need not apply.
Nice proof btw.

>>13600018
>things called women
>friend
>:^)
>bongs
>dynamic ip
Give me one reason not to believe you're Trevor or worse and I'm not wasting my time.

>>13600048
Give me one reason not to believe you're a troll or worse and I'm not wasting my time.

Who the fuck is Trevor and why do you W-fags blame every action ever on him?

>>13600062
>>13600063
Are you being ironic right now?

>>13600065
I'm not. Who the fuck is Trevor?

>>13600077
Some shithead who spammed the board and got doxxed in warosu by a huge autist. After that people started pretending to be him and he became a meme, despite the fact no one can really know if he's even around at all. Well, unless he posted some timestamp.

>>13600077
Boogeyman the janitors invoke when they need an excuse to ban request arbitrary posts.

>>13600175
Maybe they just wanted you gone too.

Have you thought of that.

>>13600189
You can stop pretending the logs don't exist any time.

>>13600201
Logs of what, you getting the boot for being retarded?

>>13600208
You're delusional.

If you were banned for ban evasion there's a 99% chance you're some sort of massive shitheel who needed banning anyway.

The good old days...

>>13593055
The old days? More like allahu akbar

>>13600208
>>13600422
(ex) Janitor detected. Really, can you be any more fucking obvious?
>those logs don't exist :^)
>Janitors never did anything wrong!
>everyone who disagrees with me is Trev
You could at least pretend not to be this retarded.

>>13593055
those days are gone, long gone.

>>13600610
>those logs don't exist :^)
I read a few days worth of those logs and there was nothing interesting in it, and nothing people posted in /irc/ was interesting.

>everyone who disagrees with me is Trev
Dunno who you're quoting, but it's not me.

there's no reason for jp to exist as things are

/jp/ should be otaku /b/ (and nsfw, obviously)
autistics and people who take themselves too seriously should go to reddit
generals can try and stay at their own risk (there are other boards for that shit)

>>13600641
He's a dumbass.

If I were an admin I would've erased /jp/ and remade it.

>>13600641
I just searched for /jp/ and ignored everything else. Even then I couldn't go through entire fucking 100M of text, but plenty of interesting things came out nevertheless.

>>13600643
You can go shitpost on /b/, /a/, /s4s/, pretty much elsewhere on 4chan.

But you want to do it on /jp/ for some reason. Because not even one board free of your shit can be allowed to exist.

>>13600747
All I recall learning is that the janitor really hated "the shitposters", which is not anything new to anyone here.

Shitposting (funposting) is like salt, small quantities of it make most things better but people overdo it.

>>13600764
Just like in this thread.

>>13599376
>People learn by talking to each other. If I already knew everything you knew and you knew everything I knew, there would be no point us having a discussion.
You read what you wanted to read and responded in kind. So, I'm going to do the same.

There's no need to entertain people who don't know what they're talking about, and people still in their nappies and have more learning to do before they contribute anything of worth shouldn't post, is what I'm saying.

>A new thread
What are you talking about now?

>>13600643
Get the fuck back to GNFOS fag.