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Open this fucking pit up

So apparently they fixed the lag issues on Hellfire Girls. Has anyone tried it yet? I'm an LoV player and don't usually go for games with real girls, and I'm still on the fence.

I know it's most efficient to raise one girl's affection at a time but I just can't help spreading the love. Having lots of good units is a curse.

>>13590639
It's basically LoV with real girls. It felt somehow creepy to me so I'd recommed giving it a shot, even if you don't want to play it.

>>13590639
What this guy said >>13590729
And you can blaze through the game for the first ten levels since they reduce all stamina costs to zero until level 11. Let's you get a feeling about whether you want to keep playing.

>>13590729
And instead of fighting monsters it's you pimping the girls out for public sex and other assorted humiliation.

Man, everytime I go to the Nutaku frontpage I already had to see those two awful 3DPD games, and now there's a 3rd? Fucking hell.

>>13590814
Like a third of DMM's 18+ games are 3dpd, you should probably get used to seeing 3dpd on Nutaku's homepage.

>>13589241

Let's see, for non-unique classes without blacks we have:

Soldier
Bandit
Samurai
Avenger
Monk
Magesword
Sailor
Tenko
Warpriest
Dragon Rider
Bishop
Feng-Shui
Cannoneer
Dancer
Necromancer
Alchemist
Ranger (yeah there's only one but I'm pretty sure she belongs in this catergory)

And then the weird ones:

Puppeteer
Maid
Vampire Lord
Swordmaster
Dragon Shaman
Chrono-Witch
Druid

>>13590849
My guess would be one of the niche classes since the last one was Bow Cavalry. Something like Avenger, Sailor, or Alchemist?

>>13590639
I just tried it with Opera, don't know how laggy it was before since I only tried it now, but it still seems laggy. ~30 seconds to open pages I've already opened up, sometimes new pages take literally minutes.

>>13590946
The lag issue -was- fixed, but it seems to be bad again. Not sure what the issue is this time.

>>13590849
Well there aren't many healers up in black rarity so maybe they'll make a feng-shui or warpriest as broken as Saint Iris?

>>13590963
I also just sent a girl on the Tutorial 1 minute long Expedition, and it said it'll take 8 hours and 1 minute.

>>13590992
Yeah, it always does that for some reason. For me it still only lasted 1 minute.

>>13591005
Yep, seems that way. I'm gonna hold back on playing until they fix the lag for good though.

So Nutaku is making a contest about contests...

>>13591173
Heh, contest Inception.

...conception?

It occurs to me that since I have 3.8m in the bank, I may as well use Bronze 2k Gacha fodder in addition to DH fodder. This greatly accelerates grinding.

>>13591193
Maybe you'll get lucky and pull a Despara from 2k like that lucky bastard last thread.

God, Hellfire Girls is horrible. I can't tell what is supposed to do what and there are long fucking loading screens everywhere that give errors.
Also, most of the cards seem like they were screenshot from AVs and the girls aren't all that pleasing to look at.

>>13590814
At least its Japanese women and not that plastic old hag that they have as a mascot for the two Luv games.

Yeah, this didn't take for-fucking-ever or anything.

>>13591611
Was it worth it?

>>13591635
Probably not.

>>13591210
Pretty much you can get a way better experience just watching actual JAV videos than to waste your time on this.

>>13590639
I'll play it once they fix the hag issues.

>>13591899
>hag issues
Kek, you're not entirely wrong there.

>>13592345
Those are more prominent in the other two games. Nip bitches be cute.

>>13592345

nice dubs

>>13591899
So it looks like the game is under "Emergency Maintenance."
Maybe it'll work this time.

Smooth moves, Prince.

>>13593346
Have you ever been so horny you start kissing yourself?

>>13593690
I totally would if I were a girl with big enough assets.

>>13593336
Well, Hellfire Girls is back up again and is lag free, but I wonder if it'll just go through this cycle everyday.

Am I correct in understanding that megaboss spawns in LoV are based on which area you're up to, not which area you're spending the stamina in?
If so, is it more efficient to run low cost maps to spawn bosses? The game guide claims that higher cost areas have higher spawn rates, but in practice I haven't felt much change from 4 cost to 9 cost.

>>13590568
Add my name to the /jp/ valkyrie list:
whyamIhere

>>13593792
Still lagging here.

>>13593975
Yes, they spawn based on highest reached area.

It is unclear what spawns most bosses. Just farm what you would farm regularly (i.e. top event map for fat fodders) and the bosses will come

4 Skyfallen gift H today: no rubies, no diamonds.

Didn't get a single plat armor in like 11 runs of Golden Armor either this week. Starting to get really pissed off at the games RNG, hope I get a black from 2k to compensate for this.

>>13594157
I'm sure you'll get a black if you just bought some crystals for premium summons. Go ahead anon, it can't go wrong, gambler's fallacy doesn't exist.

Man, Awakening is so much harder than CC. Aside from needing way more exp, you also need to start using all your demon crystals on awakening fairies, and having to CC silvers means you need twice as many silvers. And if you throw all your gold at 2k to get those silvers, guess what? You need to spend 6-digit amounts of gold to awaken, too. And that's all if you can even manage to beat the god-tier maps to farm the awakening orbs.

They should add a 50k gacha or something that gives only non-combat units, e.g. fairies and armors. I'd go broke rolling iron fairies.

>>13594938
well it's not for not enough experienced people

>>13595068
what i would really like is a 10x roll (like in LoV) so you can get the same number of units and spend the same gold as if it were individual, but in less than half the time

>>13595078
>what i would really like is a 10x roll (like in LoV) so you can get the same number of units and spend the same gold as if it were individual, but in less than half the time

That would be a godsend, but it wouldn't make whales with a billion gold go broke trying to roll time fairies at ridiculously low rates.

>>13595078
I'm experienced enough, I'm just salty that I can't use my demon crystals to get units these days, and that I've been waiting for so long to get the silvers I need to CC the silvers I need to awaken stuff.

I got this girl instead of Calliope on one of the starting missions of jp version. Her matk growth seems to be larger than Cloris in exchange for less hp/def. Does that technically make her better at least until stuff gold benefits from kicks in?

>>13594157
2 more runs, this time Toast to Men H.

3 beers in each.

why goddess, why?

>>13595394
She's generally considered slightly better afaik but it's not a huge deal.

So with the mention of Vampires or Monks incoming and the Roana event people want, are there any units/classes I should aim to train before the next event?

>>13595463
If you happen to have ninjas, they wreck the melee-only map in the monk event.

kill yourselves.

>>13595394
She even attacks faster than Cloris.

>>13595486
why would we?

>>13595531
But I do wonder if cheesing magic war with awoken Cloris's awakening skill is viable.

>>13595909
What's her awakening skill?

>>13595913
Very slim chance for each of her attacks to instant kill.

I just rolled Victoria, Sakuya and Garrett, are any of them really worth using? Garrett's ability doesn't seem that useful, and I'll probably get Spica from the trading post, so I'm not sure if two platinum archers would be a good idea.

>>13596159
>Garrett
Pretty good armor, but he's a bit more oriented towards offense, so he doesn't work as well as a pure tank. Still better than Leanne, though.
>Sakuya
Don't know personally, but people say she's the best samurai.
>Victoria
4th best archer in the game. Pretty worth it. And dem scenes.

>>13596159
There are tons and tons of missions where you'll want 2 or more archers, so yes, 2 platinum archers is a good idea.

>>13596192
>>13596230

Thanks, thin I know who I'll use my affection items on now

So Nutaku just confirmed Vamps

>>13596308
So it's Karma?

>>13596308
So Liana's ailment healing will finally stop being useless on Nutaku.

>>13596308
I regret my life decisions. Namely, spending all my crystals.

>>13596317
We warned you it was coming.

>>13596308
What kind of units will be needed?

>>13596372
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php/437500-Nutaku-Millennium-War-Aigis-%28Updated-6-2-2015-Next-event-ETA%29?p=3633830#post3633830

Witches, mages, and rogues, apparently.

Time to put Berna to good use.

>>13596448
How strong of a group would you need (CC/levels etc)?

how much SCs will be needed on average?

would like, 50 do the trick?

>>13596526
You can, with some real fucking luck, get the black version of Karma without spending crystals. Of course, you might also need to blow a fuckton if you're unlucky. And I'm guessing you also need to spend at least a few to get her completely maxed out.

>>13596526
There's a list on the HF post.

This is assuming you spent the entire 2 week trying to obtain her, and going in with full stamina and charisma. Passing on everything else. Remember you get 8 SC from the event maps.

100
Min: 10
Avg: 19
Max: 35

101
Min: 8
Avg: 17
Max: 33

120
Min: 8
Avg: 16
Max: 30

140
Min: 8
Avg: 15
Max: 28

160
Mix: 7
Avg: 14
Max: 26

180
Min: 7
Avg: 13
Max: 24

200
Min: 6
Avg: 12
Max: 23

>>13596565
sounds very doable then.

worst case scenario I dump 30 euros in the game to get a strong guaranteed black unit. meh.

>>13596565
What do the 100/101/120/140/160 mean?

>>13596595
You get stamina boosts at those levels.

>>13596595
Levels. Higher levels = more stamina = less SCs to blow on refills.

>>13596448
>rogues
Time to CC Cypria and Level up Betty.

>>13596814
If you happen to have princesses, those are great choices too.

So if you fail to get enough items to get the black version, can you continue your progress if Nutaku does a repeat of the event?

>>13596828
tfw I still don't have Sherry

>>13596829
Nope.

>>13596840
I have 2 sybillas and a sherry.

but I would trade them all (plus Berna) for your Nanally. maybe even Despara.

>>13596829
No.

They use a separate currency for revival. But it will be about a year before Karma revival, and likely all revivals in en will be running alongside new events since they're constantly playing keepup to jp to have a whole event period dedicated to revival.

Best get her now if you want her.

Can I use Paypal to get crystals? I don't really trust this Probiller.

>>13596875
They promise paypal support in a week or so.

>>13596867
don't worry anon, even more broken units are on the way

>>13596867
The only one I really wanted was Lilia, and I just happened to get every black unit along the way. And I even mincosted my Themis.

>>13596941
b-but you have Lilia

>>13596944
Yeah, after like 200 rolls.

>>13597005
wish I had your money

Looks like JP is adding a button to empty one of your teams instead of taking them all out manually.

>>13597162
>another feature that will take a while to hit Nutaku.

>>13597162
Looks like they adding Charlotte to this event too. She's a completion bonus for the 7th map and a random drop on the 9th map.

I'm missing a lot of older units so it'll pretty nice if this is a new way to get older event units.

>>13597297
Is Charlotte even good anymore? Rune Fencers took quite a heavy hit in that patch a few months ago.

>>13597302
Well at least the black mage lowers their cost.

>>13597302
I don't think I would ever use her, but wouldn't mind picking her up since I wasn't here for her event.

>>13597302
What did the patch do to them?

>>13596497
Watching the videos, they have an assload of CC'd units, even in the last/later missions, but it doesn't look too bad. Anyone confirm what sort of units you'd need (level/CC)?

>>13597349
Iirc, -40% HP, -20% attack, but -5 cost.

Fuck i'm not sure which Karma I want

plat looks so much better and I don't want to use my crystals on this shit either, but black is so much better apparently

I kinda just want to stop at 600

>>13597442
I like plat's design too, but she's way too useless compared to her black version.

If you spend all of your stamina on the event you *should* be able to get black Karma that costs 20 and 3/5 on her ability(11 seconds of not being able to die). It's up to you if the extra 2 seconds on her ability and -2 CR is worth ~20-30 crystals.

>>13597442
Black Karma is so OP that people on JP still go out of the way to note if they don't use her in guide video titles.

>>13597442
i'm almost sure i will end doing this

>>13597461
>people spend that much money just for -2 CR and +2 seconds of skill duration

>>13597442
Black Karma is OP as fuck, but if you don't got the SC, then go for plat and save up your SC for when they do the revival event.

>>13597641
Reprint events cost way more crystals usually, so you've got that backwards.

>>13597638
If you look at in comparison to cost reducing a gacha black unit, it's actually quite cheap.

>>13597638
technically it's from 6 to 35 crystals

which is nothing to cr a black compared to anything else in the game, plus it's not like karma is the only thing you get

>>13597641
Your much better off going for 700 serum and getting Black Karma now if you don't want to spend crystals. You would need at least 800 revival crystals to get a similar 3/5 -2CR Black Karma which would cost a ton of crystals.

If you want Platinum Karma later you only need 150 revival crystals which is much more doable.

So how strong of a team do you need for this event?

>>13597638
Her skill is the only reason she matters at all, so improved skill duration and cd is kinda important.

>>13597662
Well technically you can do it with a shitty team by not farming the best map, but that would take way more stamina/crystals

>>13597691
Ah so you just farm the best map you can over and over for that resource. And depending on how many of that resource you have, you get either plat' Karma or black Karma?

Any idea on the requirement for the 'hardest' or best map?

>>13597698
If you can 3* castle retake you should probably be fine I think.

>>13597726
Nope. 1*

Not going to touch that bullshit mission for a long time/when I get something OP.

>>13597730
Well, the best OP unit I can think of for doing that easily happens to be Karma.

>>13597741
Of course. What else. I guess I'll attempt each mission and then just sit on the one I can 3*. How hard would it be to farm for the plat' Karma? I've only got 2 CC'd units so I doubt I can muster enough for the Black one.

Also how viable is it to level a character from 40 to 50 to CC if you have a lot of fairies?

>>13597750
You could probably get enough to get her just from doing each map once. That's how easy it is to "get" her. If you want to max the Platinum version you could probably do it without a single Crystal even if you can't do the last couple maps at all.

I raise units from 40 to 50 without a single fairy all the time.

>>13597759
Huh, how about a Black one then? Is it difficult to get the black version? I should read the hongfire event page some more actually. I sound like an idiot.

>I raise units from 40 to 50 without a single fairy all the time.
How much does it cost you? I have so many level 40 characters since I've had awful luck on getting plat' armours.

>>13597750
I'm another newcomer, and I've CC'd 3 units from 40 over the last 2 days with no armours. Dragon Hunting money and fodder are too good.

>>13597771
Depends on how the level and rarity of fodder (as well as if it has the "Veteran Trainer" passive. Those units aren't in Nutaku yet though). On JP I want to say it costs me something like 60k-70k. I think some guys in the last thread says it costs them ~100k here though.

If you can do Monday Daily Hard you get like 200k-300k each week though.

>>13597771
There's a chart further up, but basically. Something like 5-10 crystals if you somehow get perfect drops on every single map for two weeks straight. Average is more like 10-20 though. (This is only assuming you can actually 3* the last map)

>>13597771
I grind dragon hunting and 4 iron gives 500 exp, bronze gives more but I'll just use irons for the maximum it'll take. Getting 8000exp from just DH irons takes ~130k it'll be less since you get bronzes as well but you get the idea.

>>13597878
And of course, if you save up 3 bronze mages from DH and use them with a fairy you get 1000ish exp. Huge way to cut costs.

guys i am freaking out.
what the fuck does this mean?
i don't want to redo everything someone ease my pain!

>>13597779
I haven't tried Monday H, doubt I can do it yet. N seems to give 150-175k though which is great.

>>13597878
So it's legitimate to go to 50 without a plat' armour eh? I've only done it though plat' armours. It'll cost quite a bit but, seems worth it. Each CC makes a massive difference.

>>13598023
Yeah once you get more higher ranked units you'll want to save plats for the levels over 50 instead. At the beginning you don't have much money or decent exp fodder so getting a unit to level 50 without plats is very costly, so you'll rely on them, but once you start doing gold armor H you just begin to drown in money.

>>13598047
What's the requirement for monday H anyway? (Ie CC x y and z) I've got CC'd katie and daniela. Thinking of CCing Alissa then a Witch (Calliope or Despara)

>>13598062
CC Katie/soldier is probably the most important

CC Healer/Witch/armor will help but you can make do with two healers instead of one CC healer, if you have a CC witch like Despara you can probably make do with weaker healers since she should be able to just shred the armors, and you'll want to put some mages at the entrance for the end, they don't have to be CC'd, level 40 or so should be fine to help weaken the enemies. If you have a good high defense armor only the gold and plat armors can damage them decently so they can make good roadblocks in this map

>>13598094
Sounds like I might be able to do H. Just never attempted it.

How does H differ from N? I can crush N effortlessly (drop armour then katie, prince, healer then mage/witch) all at the mob spawn.

>>13598013
Maintenance is being done.

>>13598109
There're some video on youtube.

>>13598109
N is 4 gold armor at 40% drop, and the plat is 5% drop
H is 6 gold armors at 60% drop and the plat is 15%

Just better in every way. The gold armors hit hard though even with a lvl99 Prince at 350+defense so you want good healers if you have lower defense. It's up to you which one to CC first. You should still look up some vids first as a better judge if you can do it.

>>13598140
I mean difference in difficulty.

>>13598136
>youtube
Yeah where they have an assload of CC and a high level Prince. Difficult to judge anything like that.

>>13596448
>rogues
Woops, I was completely ignoring my rogue until now. Can they be substituted with Sherry and Kerry?

>>13597442
I know, I've been agonising over it for a week now. I mean, the differences between her normal form are small enough that I don't mind that much, even if I prefer platinum, but the black versions awakening artwork is soooo much worse than the plat. And now that someone posted the min/avg/max list, the max Karma sounds pretty damn doable, ~17 avg is good considering the random part should be in binomial distribution (very low chance of major divergence from the avg).

>>13597492
Oh god, I really don't wanna miss this opportunity now. Why does it have to be so hard? Why can't the dark vampire version be the strong one who can't die? I mean undead - undying, it would fit... I would gladly spend 30 crystals on that without hesitation....

>>13598149
Follow this youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbIvmyrcftD5TDCRrOW1kXg/videos

He makes videos for new players, showing how to do things with minimal leveled units.

>>13598212
Seen much on youtube inc eth. A lot of the time I need to come up with my own strategies (which always work) since theirs just don't and/or because they have strong stuff.

>>13598227
A ton of Japanese players also do the same thing but they all use different strats, looking around can really help.

How good will I be for the Karma event with these units anons? Pic related.

>>13598386
You're probably just good enough, but where are your Spica and Chydis?

>>13598386

0 Sacred Crystals...you're not hoping to get black Karma are you?

>>13598412
Chydis I missed as I didn't get good enough to farm Thursday H until about a month ago. I'm at 129 Demon crystals right now due to terrible RNG for the past few weeks so I can't get Spica for a while.

>>13598415
For black Karma, if I'm lucky, I won't need Sacred Crystals. If I'm not, I got a (hopefully) guaranteed 8 crystals just in case.

>>13598437
As we mention every thread or so, Thursday isn't very different on N and H in terms of rewards per stamina.

>>13598452
Regardless of rewards per stamina, getting a whole bunch of 0 drops every week is killing me.

>>13598465
Well H has the same drop rate as N, it just gives more crystals per drop. No guarantee your experience will change

Man, this thing sure is scary, but it's really weak.

I sat a Soma next to it and was shocked to learn it did over 50% damage with a really quick magic attack, but in melee it's a pansy.

So, I've been watching a japanese video about the last mission from the vampire event, where the guy had like a full 50CC50+ team and still had to use almost everything in his arsenal to beat the map. Suddenly I'm not sure how I feel about the difficulty spike caused by jumping a bunch of events ahead.

Does anyone know a video where a guy does it with a relatively weak team (with around half of your team CC'd)?

If I can't do it, is it at least similar to the thursday daily where the difference between the hardest and lower missions is relatively small, or is it like the Maribel event where the last mission is the only one with a somewhat decent droprate?

>>13598605
Shit put my archer next to him and got attacked, I'm fucked. Why didn't I see your post earlier.

>>13598626
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23029341

>>13598690
Thanks, that strategy looks a lot more doable. Although the core of it seems to revolve around that platinum event mage with over 800 atk during her skill, not sure my 400 atk Valerie can keep up, so I'll have to see if I can make up for it in another area.

That Black Heavy Armor on Map #9 really threw me off. His attack seems to be like 2-3x higher than normal. He wrecked my ~650 Defense Bernice because I didn't activate Paula's skill soon enough.

>>13598827
It is not Black Heavy Armor. Soldier is the one who have the ridiculous attack power.

how does awakening work?
i have a fairy, i have a CCd unit along with max affection/trust.
and i have the materials. but the materials aren't turning up. i can't seem to be able to use the silvers they want me to use. should i level them up or something?

>>13598915
need CC'd silvers

>>13598928
ok have all those
there are two things more it wants from me,
one of them is 200000 which i presume is gold
what the other one?

>>13599062
Awakening orb

Fucked up soma's placement and now i blew up 8 hours for nothing.... m8....

Just my luck, I got 3 Demon Crystals as a Sign-In reward today, and it's Thursday. Hopefully I'll do good today.

>>13596565
This is for a perfect Karma right? Is it safe to assume that having around 12 SC would guarantee a black Karma?

>>13599222
Yes this is for a total perfect Karma. You likely can get a base black Karma without many crystals, but do NOT imagine any "guarantees" with the RNG.

What is the drop table for all the vampire maps?

Are there any silvers or golds that we could get from spamming them or from completion drops?

>>13599303
Check >>13596448

>>13599303
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=682165&postcount=8621

First three maps only have irons and bronzes.

Fourth map has Crave.
Fifth map has Cecily.
Sixth map has Mortimer.
Seventh map has Daniela and Mischa (who will probably be replaced with Elaine again).
Eighth map has Leanne and Christopher.

>>13599222
>>13599267
Considering that you need 1200 crystals which involves a ton of small individual rng rolls, rather than depending on a handful important rolls like the Maribel event, and considering how many crystals you are above the average needed to reach black Karma, I would assume, as a rough estimate, that the chance of not reaching black Karma with 12 crystals is considerably smaller than the chance of winning the 1st place 3k gold reward of a nutaku facebook event. That's a very generous approximation. I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being smaller than winning the lottery.

Lots of small rolls have a stabilising effect on rng thanks to the law of large numbers. So for all practical purposes, I think you can assume you're going to get her, even if it technically can't be ruled out that you don't. Also, you have an additional safety net since the event will also provide you with more crystals, unless you already counted them into your 12.

Note that I don't have all the information available about it, so if there's some crucial factor I wasn't aware of it could turn out differently. When numbers like 1200 are involved in binomial distribution, you can quickly reach the point where things are pretty much as close to a "guarantee" as things can get.

As I recall, the last map has a 100% drop rate on the x10 serum, and a 50% drop rate on both x3 serums.

>>13599395
So in theory, even if you're the unluckiest bastard alive, you only need to run the map 120 times.

That would be pretty expensive, but it's the worst case scenario.

>>13599368
I ran some quick numbers through a calculator: Let's say you have the number of crystals to average 1200 Serums for the maxed Karma. Let's say every Serum has a 50% chance to drop, so the crystals gave you 2400 rolls so that the average is 1200. Now, the calculator for binomial distribution I found won't take numbers above 1000, so instead of 700 serums out of 2400 rolls, I will look for 291 hits out of 1000 rolls (the actual chance with more rolls would be even better for you).

The result is that the chance to not get black Karma with these numbers is around 10^(-41), which is ballpark around the chance of winning the lottery (around 10^(-7)) 6 times in a row.

This is just to illustrate how powerful the effect of this is. I don't have the exact numbers, but whatever they are, it should play out pretty similar, especially if you factor in that some of them apparently have 100% drop chance.

>>13599414
and 70 times to reach the threshold for Black Karma

Although that's 17.5 days worth of stamina so you'll need a lot crystals, it'll be 30 days worth for 1200 serum

whats a fairy queen
whaats so different about her?

>>13599484
Well, she's a fairy, and she's a queen.

>>13599484
Depends if you're talkin about the healer or the fairy.

I'm assuming the fairy. She can act as any other rarity fairy as if she was that. So fer a silver she'd be a silver, a gold she'd be a gold.

>>13599416
To be honest, I won't even bother understanding the math there and just take your word for it. I remember asking my odds on getting Maribels from Lines of Armor 1 and you answered that it was somewhere between 1 and 3, which allowed me to set my expectation low and not get surprised to get just 1 copy (though that Maribel was essential in helping me retake the castle, which made me happy). I could actually get as many as 25 SC so I'm feeling pretty confident after you saying it's close to a guarantee with just 12 and another anon saying as long as someone could 3* Castle Retake, he should be fine. Thanks!

is there any "safe version" event on dmm going on at this moment?

>>13599349
>Eighth map has Leanne and Christopher.
Oh good that this is the map to farm. Need moar healz for male maps.

>>13599439
Well in the worst case it's

>420 stamina for worst luck barebones black
minus
>336 stamina for regen over two weeks presuming perfect spending habits
leaving us
>84 stamina to restore with crystals
dividing by
>12 stamina as the minimum bar
resulting in
>7 crystals needed

So even for worst case you can get by to get black at minimum with only this events' own crystals.

So how does this new event work? What's black and white? Do we want black?

>>13599496
I fail to see a point in having her. Gold and silver fairies would be immensely easier to get than her, and even blacks are probably easier still.

>>13599649
Farm items
Get a certain amount of item to get boosts to the event reward, Karma, eg get 100 item cost -1
Get 700 item for Karma to join at Black rank (she is platinum normally)
You get the idea. The main thing about black Karma's skill is that it has the extra effect of her being unkillable while it is active.

>>13599649
..Okay, I see you're a little confused.

This event's unit has two versions.
One is a vampire princess, dressed in black but is a unit of a platinum rarity.
The other is an immortal princess, dressed in white but is a unit of black rarity.

The black rarity is a better version.

You get her by farming a ton of special item drops (serums) from event maps.
You need 100 (easy peasy) for the basic platinum version.
Further serums enhance her skill and reduce her cost.
At 700 serums she evolves into the black rarity version, which is much better.
Then up to 1200 serums you skill-up and cost-reduce her some more.

>>13599661
>>13599668
I see, thanks.

>>13599496
Can she be a sapphire fairy?

>>13599711
yes

>>13599711
From what I know, yes.

She just can't be any of the fairies with unique skills.

>>13599668
wait, so i have no way of getting them both ?

>>13599766
Well you can get the other once they rerun the event in maybe a year

But no you only get her after the event is over.

>>13599766
Nope, just one. If you want to try getting a second from revival, better try for the highest one now because reruns are usually harder.

>>13599766
The plat version tends to be relatively cheap on the revival event so it shouldn't be too hard to get her afterwards. The black rarity one, not so much.

>>13599197
That's the same for everyone...

right?

>>13599524
no

>>13599982
Not on JP where whales can get stamp cards with rewards over twice as good.

Woo, awoken my Spica! Time for ridiculous bouncing elf tits.

>>13600029
Either you are playing the jap version or you're really ahead of Nutaku.

So I see that we can get a plat magic fencer pretty easily in the new addition to the current event in jp version. Though I'll probably get her either way, is she any good? I've never used any magic fencers before.

>>13600084
As far as I can tell, rune fencers are mainly just used when you would want a ninja, but want more magic damage instead.

2k gacha Danielas anon here, now it won't stop giving me Bernards.

>>13600084
Her skill at level 1 is 5 seconds.

>>13599395
If those are the correct numbers, then I shall hereby present you: The ultimate calculation to lay everyone's rng fears at rest! (assuming they can clear the last map)

First: Look at the min/avg/max table for your stamina. The avg number of crystals should allow you to, after clearing the previous maps, run the last map around 92 times, if you start with full stamina and make full use of what you regenerate. I'll assume the worst case scenario of you having only 12 stamina, i.e. each additional crystal gives you 2 more attempts at the map, and for ease of calculation I will assume that you got absolutely 0 serums from any of the previous maps.

(For those interested in the method to check what I did: C=Number of times you cleared the last map. I calculated the chance of getting at least (1200-C*10)/3 hits out of C*2 rolls)

Here are the results:

Chance of not maxing with +1 crystal: 10%

Chance of not maxing with +2 crystals: Roughly the chance of drawing Nanaly from Premium Summon

Chance of not maxing with +3 crystals: Roughly the chance of getting a 4 of a kind on your opening hand in Poker (regular 5 card draw mode)

Chance of not maxing with +4 crystals: Winning the lottery

So basically, if you have even just a few more crystals than the average from the table, you are fine. On the downside, this also means that you can't hope for luck to save a few crystals either, since the chances behave similarly in the opposite direction.

tl;dr: Expect to pay pretty much the average from the posted table above with almost no deviation. I doubt there will be any player paying even 3 more crystals, let alone 4.

>>13600130
This is, of course, assuming you're strong enough.

>>13599668
What are their skills? that seems to be the reason for gunning for the black, right?

I remember somethingsomething invulnerability but how exactly does it work?

>>13600149
The black rarity one becomes absolutely immortal for the duration of her skill, meaning that no attack can reduce her to below 1 hp.

>>13600153
Yes, i said i remembered that Invulnerable, immortal, almost same difference

Im asking for specifics.

>>13600153
I'm still not entirely convinced with that skill. I mean, what happens when the skill runs out? You can't heal her, so she just stays there waiting to die to the next hit. Seems way too situational and kind of unreliable for a black. Like, you'll need to withdraw her as soon as her skill ends.

>>13600161
For 8+(skill level) seconds, she becomes immortal and her attack and defense increase by 1.05+(slv/20)x, cooldown to use it a second time is 80-slv seconds, 1 second for the first use since she's black.

>>13600178
That's why you use her to tank the boss that does 2-3k damage per hit for her skill duration.

>>13600145
Yep, but judging from the Japanese wiki, the penultimate mission seems to have a rate similar to the last mission (2.12 avg serums per stamina vs 2.2). So based on that, I'd say, calculate around another +3 crystals or maybe +4 to make up for the lower rate of crystals on top of what I mentioned in my previous calculation. So even if you have doubts whether you can do the last mission, you should be safe if you have like 7 more crystals than the avg value.

However, if you're stuck with the even lower missions, things look a lot worse. There's a huge drop from the 2.12 per stamina down to 1.3. I doubt you could max her with anything less than 40 crystals if you're stuck at that map, but at least reaching 700 serums should still be alright for similar amounts of crystals as you would need for maxing on the last map.

>>13600197
How long is the event gonna be?

>>13600178
https://youtu.be/wInoI0FdBmE

This is how you use her. For those times when Nanaly and Despara together just don't have enough firepower.

>>13600260
So her HP remains at 1 forever?

>>13600283
Yeah, once she gets to 1 hp, she stays there, unless you let her get hit while her skill isn't up.

Should I CC Maribel for this event? She looks like she could be useful in it.

>>13600197
Is there a list of how efficient each mission in the event is?

>>13600390
Yes. It's a bit buried in a drop-down menu so it's probably easier to just add it as a picture.

From left to right:
1周あたり avg number per clear
ｶﾘｽﾏ20あたり avg number per 20 charisma
ｽﾀﾐﾅ1あたり avg number per stamina (this is the important value)
最少 smallest number per clear
最大 largest number per clear

The second row for each map shows the percentages for each individual drop, the 血清 is the Serum.

Also, it only features 5 maps. Map 1, 3 and 6 are left out, probably because they're not worth doing or something like that.

>>13600322
I'm not sure about her. The problem with vampires is that they will paralyze melee units for 12 seconds. Maribel being an offensive blocker and reliant on her skill...not as useful as having several dedicated meatshields + a ton of ranged firepower.

>>13600614
Their paralysis is decently countered by dodge chance though, because of how it works.

>>13600622
So rogues could be useful?
I have a 50CC40 Betty and Cuterie, please tell me they'll be useful for once.

>>13600614
Can they still be attacked while paralyzed by melee units?

>>13600626
Yes, rogues are super useful. Pretty much focus on prepping your mages and witches. when melee units are paralyzed, they still block enemies, so you will need the ranged damage to burn through the hordes.

...would be terrible if these forums die before really even getting started...

I kinda feel like it will make for a great community a while down the road when nutaku has a bunch of games out.

>>13600631
Yes, their Defense also goes to half and they can't use their Skill. So if Maribel gets paralyzed while she isn't using her Skill, she's fucked since her Defense is already terrible.

I only have Cypria at level 20 and the silver rogues unleveled, what should I be doing?

Got Garania, Mehlis, Cloris and Calliope at 50CC40 though.

>>13600667
Add in the fact that paralysis happens after being hit 6 times...if Maribel is blocking 3 vamps, she'll get paralyzed very quick.

>>13600686
I'd say look at the hongfire thread, watch the videos of the events, and plan accordingly. You're more prepared than me. I'm still new and only have Cloris and Katie CC'd.

http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php/437500-Nutaku-Millennium-War-Aigis-%28Updated-6-2-2015-Next-event-ETA%29?p=3633830#post3633830

>>13600652
Keep it alive. With puzzles.

See pic related, question i have is, should i use all 3 Vals to try and CR the CC'd one? or should i keep the lvl 30 one?

>>13600652
The problem is that there isn't really enough content to maintain a forum. It's kind of useless at the moment.

>>13600698
I'm the same boat (Katie and Daniela CC) and never done an event before. Hoping I can get a plat' Karma.

>>13600708
I personally use Roy and Valerie. Some would suggest keep two Valerie.

>>13600708
Do you have any other mages?
Its good to keep several mages on hand if you have to spam some AOE. You could always get some bronze mages for that purpose though.

>>13600708
I always try to keep at least three units of a given class before trying to CR/skill level up anyone. That way you've got enough in case you roll a plat mage.

>>13600715
>I personally use Roy and Valerie
I guess i should mention i have a 50CC20 Mehlis then.

>>13600715
Yeah, in addition to CC'd Katie and Cloris, I fucked up early on before I knew what CC was and I wasted an Alissa and Dorca. So I have both of them at 50, but unable to CC.

>>13600712
Hongfire is pretty active and full of info. Maybe we can do what they do?

>>13600720
Then yeah I would sack the level 30 too.
>Mehlis
Lucky fuck.

>>13600727
Also why CC Cloris? Surely you'd be better off CCing Calliope. I'll probably CC Calliope before Despara too.

>>13600736
>Mehlis
She a qt

>Also why CC Cloris?
Not him but.
At 1 point you stop caring about the MUH COST INCREASE although the 5 increase for mages IS a bit steep and just consider the stat increase of a gold above a silver.

Happened to me and my Clissa

>>13600736
I didn't really put deep though into CCing Cloris. I was just like (better go for the gold first). I have made a lot of bad decisions, but I like to just keep going with the account.

Anyways, what I'm working on now is I'm trying to CC my Mehlis before the event starts. I have the money and 3 platinum armors remaining.

In addition to her, should I level up my rogues or my Sybilla next after mehlis and valerie? (Cypria and Sybilla are around level 20. The silver ones are all at 0, but I have like 5 silver rogues hanging around).

>>13600733
Theirs is just a megathread nobody wants to go back and read through the entirety of. Pretty much the same thing as these threads are, aside from the fact that these get deleted so it doesn't look so intimidating.

I had thought the forum was meant as a dumping ground for useful information, as well as a place for discussions relating to particular maps. Things that are constantly being asked about and reiterated many times.

>>13600792
Wiki would do the same better.

>>13600756
Thought it was generally agreed here that CCing Calliope is far better. Well shit. Not sure which of the three witches to CC first.

>>13600756
Acquire Jerome, disregard cost limitation.

>>13600840
Current JP event gives increased premium summon for Jerome. When will Nutaku give us this blessing? ;_;

>>13600835
Not him but I have so many Calliopes from event drops and 2k gacha that that I'm like, why the hell not? Not really lacking CC material.

>>13600852
That sounds handy actually. Any anon comment whether it'd be worth CCing Despara first over the other Witches or not?

>>13600848
Actually that event ended yesterday. Now the other Plat soldier is up.

>>13600810
Wiki is not a place for discussion and community building

i heard there are events in the jp event that are exclusive to the r18 version and others to the safe version.
is there any exclusive running at this very moment?

>>13600978
Someone already asked that in this thread today.

Also why don't you just check?

>>13600882
There simply isn't a large enough community to maintain a fanforum. I was referring to what the anon said about putting useful information in one place.

>>13600999
oh sorry , i didn't notice.

>>13599349

Ok, I'll be able to 30CC all my dupe Fedoras after this event. Excellent. I will also be flooded with a million silver HA - already have like 7.

>>13600652

Let's see how things turn out when we get a decent event on LoV. The forums were born in the middle of this dry event.

>>13601016
Speaking of "other" Nutaku games, the Karma event made me completely forget that PeroPero Saimin is coming out on Saturday.

>>13601038

Twitter updated: it's coming out on the 9th. Right when Karma event happens.

In other words, Nutaku want me to decide whether to go for a princess before Tuesday no matter what. Fine, I give up on LoV's lottery gold deal. I'm sure I'll be coughing up cash in future months when something worthwhile hits the LoV shop. Curse you Flocci for convincing me I don't need 50+ SCs for Karma.

>>13601078
JP version's lottery is way better than ours anyway. Due to the amount of cards they have, the normal lottery drops R cards most of the time and card lottery gives SR more often. Just save up your continuous logins for when the Idol Theater even finally ends and they introduce more cards.

>>13601078

Leanne, Elaine, Dorca, Eunice, Iris, Fedora, Alyssa, Harissa and then...

THE ELATION. Sure I'd have preferred Sherry or Sybilla BUT I'LL GLADLY RECEIVE A LILIA.

People keep suggesting witches and mages for this event, but what's wrong with archers? I know wolves have a shitton of defense, so archers are useless against them, but what about the undead? Would Nanaly still be fine against them?

>>13601325
Nanaly is pretty much fine against anything.

Do I REALLY need the other princesses if I already got Themis and Anya? Feels like I'm missing out by not getting one of them.

>>13601038
What kind of game is PeroPero anyway?

>>13601359
They'll be back. There are more important things.

>>13601379
See 3rd post
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=22754
Another card game, kinda like LoV.

I remember hearing someone say that Pero is even grindier than LoV and Aigis combined. How bad we talking?

>>13601391
This makes me think PeroPero is Hellfire Girls - 2D edition.

Is there a table/site that shows the attack speed of units?

>>13601412
Almost every DMM game is like that, Aigis is a rare exception. Don't expect anything better.

>>13601522
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%B9%B6%B7%E2%C2%AE%C5%D9

>>13601527
Their more recent games are getting better. Aigis is honestly probably the best DMM game in pure gameplay though. Unless you prefer something more RPG/Simulation based like Kanpani or Grand Harem or their new SRPG.

>>13601610
Yeah I guess I've seen a lot of praise for FKG and stuff but at that point why not play a real JRPG?

>>13601610
There's a couple of games on Nutaku's future list that are more gameplay oriented. Osawari Island, Girls Union, and Patriarch Ecstasy for example.

>>13601555
Anything with images or in Engrish?

I should be putting dupe x unit into x unit that's CC'd at least once right? Say a Christopher that's CC'd. I should be putting at least one extra/dupe of him in for the confirm cost reduction?

>>13601756
No. Only if you have a lot of extras. CR is not really as vital as it sounds.

>>13596308
>showing off their Deine

>>13601749
Google Translate:
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://aigis.gcwiki.info/%3F%25B9%25B6%25B7%25E2%25C2%25AE%25C5%25D9&usg=ALkJrhj-NxFcrsEnGBqndysyjMlWSFGajg

>>13601839
Holy shit that google translate site is actually pretty good.

>>13601825
>Not noticing the Despara and Sybilla.

>>13601882
motherfucker

>>13601865
"Seconds count" is attacks per second I believe. I think attack interval is frames between each attack, not sure about that one though.

>>13601900
Seems like it. How do you get that translate to work for other sites? I put in the address and it loads it up with the google translate overlay, but it doesn't do anything. I select the languages and that doesn't work. Nor does auto-detect.

>>13601906
https://translate.google.com/
Stuff the url in here and hit translate. Should move you to overlay site translation

>>13601914
Yeah, exactly what I did. I'll try it again anyway.

>>13601899
Most of their units are mincosted too, so even if I have most of the same units they do, they still have me beat.

>>13601906
>>13601914
>>13601916
Or you can just use Google Chrome.

>>13601916

>>13601900
It has some funny mistranslations like Vangaurd Tactician as avant-garde tactician, shaman as Sherman lord as load (didn't nutaku make a mistake like that too?), rogue as logue, etc.

Anyone know the details about awakening skills and stacking benefits?

>>13601755
>>13601824
When a family member asked me what was inside of the package I ordered, I said "it's a secret."
I think that is a much nicer way of saying "none of your business."

>Do Crystal Keeper H
>Get a single fucking drop

>>13602999
Welcome to my last few weeks. I hope you enjoy never getting Spica.

>>13603032
I already have her.

>>13603038
Do you have Saki too?

>>13603038
How can you say you have her if she's not even min cost?

>>13599644
That's great news anon.

>>13603054
and not at level 5 skill

>>13603193
You don't need to use copies of her to skill up, though.

I have a 50CC42 Soma and a 50CC38 Daniela and I just got Spica. Should I replace Daniela in my party with Spica? What do I do with my Daniela, then?

>>13603659
If bring all 3 isn't feasible, you could try cost reducing Daniela and using her when you need a cheap archer.
If I'm not mistaken, the second last map in the upcoming event drops her so you could farm up some extras for it.

>>13603686
Well I was actually thinking of farming Daniela to use her for CC'ing certain units which require silver archers.

>>13603659
You could just keep her in case you ever need more archers for a future map. Spica will outclass both Soma and Daniela anyway

Who you will buy first?

>>13603891
Saki. I want a different samurai and I've already got fucking excellent archers.

In jp event has anyone ever got anything but a single crystal from the 30/2?

I figured it'd be much easier to get Charlotte from that since I need silver rune fencers as well, but the drop rate is fucking abysmal. I've been running nothing but it and I still haven't gotten anything but a crystal each time.

might just have to go farm the 50/5 instead

>Start one final round of crystal daily for today.
>Can't move any units. Menu button, speed up, etc works fine, so it's not like the game itself can't receive inputs, but there's no reaction when trying to drag units to the battlefield
>Hours of stamina lost

So.... does anyone have any idea what happened and knows a way to fix it if something like this happens again?

>>13603906
I got plat fairy + demon crystal on my first run, just a demon crystal on my second run and plat fairy + the silver rune fencer on my third. Probably just luck.

As for me I'm unsure whether or not Charlotte is worth using unless I manage to raise her skill level... her damage seems pretty weak and she doesn't seem very durable either.

>>13603906
I did like 10 runs, got a few plats, but still no drop completion. Had a run where nothing dropped at all.

I know I should save SC for events. I know there's a lot of things to do with SC. But I keep gambling, help.

I don't know if my luck is supposed to be bad. First I rolled a normal gold, then I rolled a black, seems to be great but after that I proceeded to roll 4 male silver/golds in a row and then this.

Seems to be the feature platinum, anyone know if she's any good?

Thx 2k gacha, just 2 more to cc my spica

>>13604728
They're good but kinda very expensive for how little they do.

One block higher stat valkyries with a skill that enables a ranged magic attack. Their premise is good but for a cost that is almost as high as Anya they just don't have enough going for them to warrant throwing one of them down instead of Anya.

>>13604751
Erm... that's speaking as if I have an Anya to throw down to begin with. I only started playing a few days ago.

>>13604734
How much did you end up spending to get it? I am in need of a silver mage, so I was considering doing the same.

>>13604763
Well, Anya was just an example of another really high cost unit that you rarely get to use effectively despite her being godly because of her cost.

>>13604792
True enough, it's definitely not a unit that can come in early in the battle at least. Her stats seem to be huge compared to some other units though so it might be possible to switch out units for her in latter half of battles. Depends on the battle.

>>13604768
today that was my 2nd roll, but my last silver was over a month ago from rolling at least 100x per day

>>13604728
Actually trying out the unit in combat... the range of her skill is stupidly large. Too bad it only lasts 15 seconds. Feels like she can temporarily act as a pseudo princess since I don't have one. In fact she feels more like a magic fencer than Charlotte does.

Does she even have much faults besides her cost?

Reading class descriptions, a good samurai sounds awesome to have. Is the one in the exchange good?

>>13605040
No

>>13605040
I've drawn Sakuya from the premium summon, which someone claimed iirc was the best samurai. Not sure if this is maybe only after you have awakened her or something, but so far she had been really underwhelming for me considering her cost. Even with their AoE, the damage isn't better than a normal duelist, just with the added downside of being attacked by 2 monsters at once. Before you ask, their defense value isn't great either.

I've also heard that their cost has been reduced on JP at some point, which would also suggest that they were underpowered before that change, so maybe that will make a noticable difference (right now she's more expensive than my Sherry despite seeming a lot weaker).

Also, I think awakening actually increased their number of blocked enemies, which instantly increases their effective dps by a factor 1.5, so that could also make a huge difference.

Long story short: Maybe I'm just using her wrong, but my samurai seems pretty underwhelming in the current state of the game.

>>13605040
Samurai is kind of unless until awakening comes.

>>13605040
>>13605086
Akane is probably the most useful samurai to have, but even then, that's not saying much.

The problem with Samurai pre cc is the only thing they have going for them is attacking a second unit until awakening. They don't have amazing damage or defense.

Akane has a 50% evasion for 20 seconds skill by default, which gives her a lot more survivability to work with, something pre-awakened Samurai need desperately to compete with heavy armors.

>>13605167
>The problem with Samurai pre cc
I mean pre awakening.

>>13604728
With skill ups, dragon riders can be incredibly powerful.

http://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25881895

With cost reduction, you can only get it reduced by one per combination, right?

So the image shows that -1 is x%, then -2 is y%, -2 means if you've already had it reduced by one already? It can be interpreted as you can get -2 in one combination. And is it all right to just combine one unit at a time? I don't think the chances stack or add up if you use more than one at a time.

>>13605734
-2 means chance of getting from -1 cost to -2 cost per unit fed. It doesn't matter if you feed multiple at once or not.

>>13605734
Combining one or more at the same time is no different than doing one at a time.

>the Vampire Bride will not be arriving until the 16th. This is partly due to a major required game update that is eating into Japan's development time. It sucks but there's nothing to be done for it.

JP devs are faggots.

>>13606005
Look on the bright side. Some more time to grind, get crystals and paypal will be available before the event begins.

>>13606005
Awesome. More time to grind up. CC'd my Alissa just before. Time to CC a Witch I think. Who should I CC out of: Calliope, Cloris and Despara? I'm thinking either Calliope or Despara. Swaying towards latter. Although it'll be expensive.

>>13606005
Man I've been grinding Immoral Beast to try to make the breaks less boring, but they're really going to need to add that autocomplete feature soon if 2-3 week breaks are going to continue.

>>13606044
Remember that Nutaku is mostly around 2 years behind, and that gap is currently widening.

>>13606044
>grinding Immortal Beast
What kind of army do you have? And any word when that auto-complete will be added to Nutaku? And will there be more story missions? I've never played the Jap' version.

>>13606079
I don't care how behind we are. I care how there's nothing to do but grind in the meantime.

>>13606079
Well we have things that the JP side didn't well in advance. Dailies, platinum armors, and the trading post were all added before their JP timeline equivalent.

>>13606084
All silvers/event units but pretty high leveled.
Just that they've seen requests for it and know it's wanted.
The JP version has more story missions but no idea on when they would come over.

>>13606084
There are eventually more story missions, and they're much better to grind. You don't need to beat immortal beast to get to them.

What if there was some sort of system that rewarded the more active players? Some people or sometimes people spend minimal time on the game such as blowing all their stam/char ASAP then leaving for the next day. I've done this sometimes. But some days I have more free time and would like to play/grind more.

And I do not mean instant rewards like "you've been logged in for 5 hours, here's a free gift!" I mean like faster resource regen', or bonus missions or something. Something more to do and/or allow us to grind more or so. Split-balling here.

>>13606162
I would much prefer something like Expeditions. Would reward more activity without forcing you to keep the page open.

>>13606005
This is good news for my Sybilla account.

On another note.
Captcha
>Select all images that match the one to the right
>No image to the right
Google pls.

So many girls, so little rubies.

>>13606380
With this break I'll be giving rubies to girls who probably won't ever make it onto my team at this point. Obviously I need more girls.

>>13606380
I feel your pain, I need nearly 600 more affection just for my main gold and up girls that I actually use.

>>13606430
I just happened to get a bunch of girls I wanted on my team at more or less the same time (Chydis, Maribel, Bashira, Iris and Echidna), and then add to that finally leveling Cypria after someone told me she's good in the vampire event.

And then I guess I'll start spending them just to get scenes. Gotta fuck 'em all.

>>13606380
>>13606444
I don't get how people run out. Every girl that I ever use has 100% Affection other than Fedora who I'm debating on because I might get Chydis next time she rolls around.

>>13606468
Pic related.

>>13606468
It's what happens when you throw your money at the goddess.

>>13606468
What do/did you farm for them?

>>13606512
Phalanx 2 and Skyfallen Gift H.

>>13606478
Damn I wish I had Dahlia ;_;

>>13606515
Figures. I can't get past Toxic Swamp 3, which is very close to Phalanx 2. How strong of a group is needed for Skyfallen H?

>>13606468
Well, on JP there are these things called events which make it so that there are other places to spend stamina than Phalanx 2.

>>13606518
I rolled 2 almost in a row once. Haven't touched them since I already had a CC Thetis, but I guess another strong valk would be nice eventually.

>>13606524
The assumption is that they're talking about Nutaku Aigis.

>>13606518
I would have preferred a Thetis actually.

>>13606538
Well not everyone is so I was answering his question for a portion of the people here.

>>13606523
CCed Witch, CCed Healer, and CCed Archer is the lowest I've seen so far.

>>13606537
>>13606547
I'm not sure I like Thetis. I mean, it's basically the only chick in the game that doesn't want to fuck you, she actually wants to fuck your waifus and ntr you. She only has scenes because Bashira is smart enough to convince her to a threesome.

>>13606568
She's so much better than Dahlia stat/skill-wise though. Also, Dahlia constantly brings up her dead husband, even during sex which is kind of weird.

Newer numbers are out for 2k Gold Gacha. Finally have approximate drop rates on Plats and Blacks.
Silver ~1/40
Gold ~1/2000
Platinum ~1/10000
Black ~1/25000
So on average approximately
Silver - Once every 80k
Gold - Once every 8 mil
Platinum - Once every 20 mil
Black - Once every 50 mil

>>13606649
Used 2k over 100 times and not a single Silver or above.

>>13606667
That's not that unlikely. Come back in another few hundred rolls and then maybe we can feel sorry.

>>13606649
Can someone do the math on farming whichever difficulty of Monday gives the most gold per stam (not sure if it's extreme or god) to give a rough stamina per black estimate or something?

>>13606649
Made a mistake there, it's approx 2 mil per Gold, not 8 mil. Rest of it should be fine though.

>>13606725
You mean 4mil.

>>13606742
God dammit, I was thinking 2mil because that was number from the old data. (1/1000 drop rate).

>>13606710
Give me the numbers for the droprates and stamina cost of each difficulty and I'll calculate whatever you want to know.

So exactly how many Rogues and Mages should I prepare.
I've got one Mage that doesn't really need anything and another I can get ready quickly.
My Rogues kind of got sidelined so they're not exactly combat-worthy yet but given the extended timeline I could probably raise them for the event. I just want to know around how many I'd need to focus on.

>>13606710
I think it's actually just Hard.
Hard - 60% x6 Gold Armors + 15% Plat
Extreme - 60% x6 Gold Armors + 20% Plat (but higher Charisma cost)
God - 80% x5 Gold + 20% x2 Plat (but double Stamina)
So with Hard you'd average out 3.6 Gold Armors + 4500 Gold per 3 Stamina. 26,100 Gold per 3 stamina or 8700 Gold per Stamina. So you'd need ~5750 Stamina per Black.

>>13607048
If you farm Pastoral Gate with an Awoken Betty / Laila / Patras / Moret + Mia though. 45 enemies x 30%(?) x 100g x 1.13 x 1.5 + 900 x 1.5 x 1.13 + selling drops. You could probably average 5k Gold per run, at 12 Charisma. If you're a high level player with ~400 Charisma, you'd be making about 170k Gold per Crystal. Compared to the ~100k Gold per 1-2x Crystal (Monday Daily is harsh on Charisma too) with Monday Daily H.

Did the english version of Aigis really remove loli?

>>13607391
Wasn't in to begin with. I presume it'll be in soon.

>>13607398
Wait, so the japanese version didn't have loli?
What was the backlash about loli then?

I only recently got on this boat but there's hardly any news anywhere about whatever happened

>>13607404
There's next to no information about Aigis in general, so it's mostly up to the little community to throw stuff around.

>>13607404
There were lolis in the game at JP release.
There were no lolis in the EN release and there hasn't been any news about them being put in yet.

>>13607419
Oh.
Is there any way to mod them back in, or do I just have to play the JP version?

>>13607432
The latter.

>>13607437
Alright, thanks a lot.

>>13607432
I'm guessing they'll be put in eventually(some probably altered), but at the rate we're getting updates it could be a while.
JP is always an option just don't expect to get too much done in the first few events.

>>13607432
They're going to give the lolis a boobjob like they did with LoV.

>>13607459
Who actually got boobified in LoV?

>>13607484
Kagura is the first one to come to mind.

>>13607484
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Edited_cards

>>13607489
Fuck that looks shit. What is westener's obsession with cow/bolted on tits? Since when is small/flat = child? The fuck. Even illegal teens can have fairly large breasts.

>>13607505
I think it was the bank that said they're going to have to do it or something like that.

>>13607459
>>13607489
>>13607505
>>13607511
I wonder if its possible to take text files or scripts from the translated version and apply them to the JP version

>>13607419
They actually teased a picture of Mischa awhile back when someone asked them about whether the lolis were coming back or not via Twitter. Mischa got a complete remake almost immediately afterwards though so I'm not sure if the progress on her got completely nuked by that. Which would explain why they still haven't released her yet.

>>13607525
I wonder if it's possible for the Nutaku version to just add content and lolis without fucking up. Would it be too much to ask for to simply have Aigis in English and that's it?

>>13607525
Considering they're browser games, I assume most of the stuff is stored on their side.

>>13601002
>There simply isn't a large enough community to maintain a fanforum.

This may be true right now, but that doesn't mean it is a bad time to start one. Communities like this take time to build up the userbase. And as it builds, it becomes more attractive to new (and old) players that may choose to stick around.

It really just needs a spark to start setting it off. And useful content. Content is king for any website - new or old.

>>13607532
Sure, if you happen to be the president of a major Bank and tell them that'd you'd be okay with handling their shekels even if they put nude lolis in their games.

>>13607532
Based on current demonstration, I've concluded that isn't possible

>>13607535
Too bad I'm shit when it comes to stuff like this, I'm curious if it'd work

>>13607537
Why can't Nutaku just use whatever the Jap version use? They'd have to be partnered together and such since they're sharing the same game.

A question for the veterans, which would you choose, Bernice + Nanaly or Black Karma + Mehlis + 2 Gold Mage Men?

>>13607536
These kinds of things are extremely niche. The playerbase isn't going to grow very large anyway. I'd give the forum few hundred registered members as a somewhat realistic high point, with most of them inactive.

>>13607543
My guess is that there's something preventing that. Something like extra charges or something because of out-of-country fees, or it would make transactions a lot more difficult. Or maybe it's just because they just don't want to deal howaito piggus.

>>13607548
Nanaly.

>>13607537
I don't really get why they don't just release the lolis without scenes. It wouldn't appease everyone but I think a lot of people would prefer to have the units at least.

>>13607560
> Or maybe it's just because they just don't want to deal howaito piggus.
Who? If it's the bank, then no. They can't have an arbitrary reason to decline money because of "eh, just cuz" Banks will never decline money.

>>13607571
>loli without scenes
No anon. No.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivkugR-dI3M

Karma continues to be relevant.

>>13607575
Surely it's better than having no lolis at all.

>>13607575
there will be no loli scenes on nutaku regardless since they'll be edited to be not loli

>>13607596
You mean they'll be edited to be oppai lolis.

>>13607641
Seems to be the fad right now anyway
>Hestia

>>13607648
Current JP event is an actual danmachi joke

>>13607674
how ironic

I just want the vampire loli

https://www.lewdgamer.com/2015/06/05/interview-with-robert-mann-and-david-lalonde-of-nutaku/

Anyone check this out? Anything meaningful? Don't feel like listening to 22 minutes of this right now.

>>13607702
Only watched the first ~6 minutes before had to stop because of their annoying voices. It was the usual filler to blow smoke up people's asses. "We're looking to put content in as efficiently as possible" "This game is x y and z buzzwords" etc

>>13607702
>>13607717
Video won't even load up for me.

>>13607724
What about this? https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BydbB0JHf9AOc1ZfUkt4bld2dVk/view

Can download it too: https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0BydbB0JHf9AOc1ZfUkt4bld2dVk&export=download

>>13607734
Yup, the google link worked. I'll listen to the whole thing while browsing 4chan. I'll tell you guys if they say anything important.

>>13607752
Appreciate it.

>>13607717
What do you expect, all they're after is weeaboo dollars

>>13607758
They've talked about reaching out to Indie developers to offer publishing / help making Indie H-Games. Their main aim is as a distribution platform, but they didn't sound oppose to idea of eventually creating their own development team to create their own H-Game when asked.

They mentioned lolis. The reason they can't do lolis is not just because of the banks, but also payment processors (Paypal and such). They actually expect censorship to start decreasing any time now as the Jews begin smelling the shekels.

Osawari Island, Quiz of Walkure, Angelic Saga, Patriarch Excstasy coming out "8-9 months". Girl's Union. (Ask me if you have questions about these.)

Asked about Visual Novels. Nutaku plans to put up a Visual Novel onto their site (playable through the site). If popular, they will bring more in.

>>13607805
What kind of games are the ones they're planning to bring over?

>>13607805
>They've talked about reaching out to Indie developers to offer publishing / help making Indie H-Games. Their main aim is as a distribution platform, but they didn't sound oppose to idea of eventually creating their own development team to create their own H-Game when asked.

Should probably work one step at a time. I don't think anyone's opposed to more games either, but they should focus with what's on their plate now.

>They mentioned lolis. The reason they can't do lolis is not just because of the banks, but also payment processors (Paypal and such). They actually expect censorship to start decreasing any time now as the Jews begin smelling the shekels.

Wishful thinking that it'll change anytime soon, but I do wish SJWs would fuck off.

>Osawari Island, Quiz of Walkure, Angelic Saga, Patriarch Excstasy coming out "8-9 months". Girl's Union. (Ask me if you have questions about these.)

Doubtful, but any word on Kancolle?

>Asked about Visual Novels. Nutaku plans to put up a Visual Novel onto their site (playable through the site). If popular, they will bring more in.

I remember they teased this earlier, but I haven't got the slightest clue what they were referring to. Could be interesting, could be not. Can't really say much without anything else to go on.

From interview
-Nutaku would like to help indie hentai devs
-They localise, translate, and help market
-Lolis must be edited
-They say that the more shekels they make the more likely the censorship laws for them will lax

Some planned stuff
-osawari island
-quiz of walkure
-angelic saga
-patriarchal ecstasy at end of the year
-girl's union

-Aigis is the most successful title
-Some sort of Mobile app being developed, Mobile Aigis in late summer
-some sort of patreon indie dev partnership support

>>13607845
You're delusional if you think SJW have done anything meaningful or any sort of relevant change.

>>13607805
More social features. Can chat with other players, can "follow" them etc.

Mobile versions of their games. A Nutaku App, once you download the App you can download the games through the first app. They stated late-summer.

This is probably really only important if you're someone making H-Games. They talked about how developers who want their games on Nutaku get to keep full-rights to their games, but Nutaku wants to keep exclusivity.

>>13607824
Osawari Island
Real-time RPG, collect girls, you DON"T have to feed them copies of themselves to limit break (you use a special currency that drops in basically every map). Events are fucking grindy and often p2w as fuck on JP though. Also, not very AFK friendly because to Auto-Battle, it costs a special item, 1 per 1 second of auto-battle. I guess the plus-side is that means there's tons of game-time unlike most Energy-System games.

Quiz of Walkure
I've only seen JP screenshots, but it looks like Lord of Walkure Universe, game asks you questions.

Angelic Saga
A deck-based game. Not one like Lord of Walkure where you get cards and they auto-battle though. It's like a legitimate card game. You set up a deck, go into combat, draw cards, choose which ones to use (you can use more than one per turn). There are Unit-Cards, Buff-Cards, Trap-Cards, etc.

Patriarch Exstasy is a TPS, you fly a plane so kinda like World of Airplanes or something like that. Haven't played the game, only seen screenshots and looked through the galleries on DMM. Seems like the girls are engineers that give buffs to your plane or something?

Girl's Union
Like Clash of Clans, but instead of "unit types", you have Girls who have their "army" that level up with them. So you can equip like, 3x Knight Girls, and have access to three armies of Knights that each have X Soldiers in them.

https://www.lewdgamer.com/2015/06/05/interview-with-robert-mann-and-david-lalonde-of-nutaku/

LewdGamer did an interview with the owners of nutaku.

Sheds light on a lot of shit as well.

And I should probable like...read before posting...