/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>13559793
Is there any event where we actually get to fuck the goddess?

>>13559816
Not yet

PRAY HARDER

>>13559816
Not yet, unfortunately.
I keep hoping, though. ;_;

So, does Nutaku have any other games they're gonna implement from DMM? Or is it complete radio silence on that front?

>>13559838
Peropero Saimin is coming soon.

>>13559855
Is it good?

>>13559865
I don't play it myself, but refer to some previous posts:
>>13482791
>>13483058
>>13483016
On that note, Nutaku just posted a trailer on pornhub of all places.
https://twitter.com/nutakugames/status/603681658152329216

The lack of music in Aigis bugs me sometimes. It gets a bit repetetive, hearing the same battle theme all the time.

>>13559902
This is a problem in nearly all DMM games. Hell Taimainin Asagi doesn't even have any bg music and I'm sure there are others like that.

>>13559890
>Surprise futa
There isn't one in Aigis, right? If there is, tell me who it is so I can discharge her as soon as I get her.

>>13559902
Just mute it and play your own music.

>>13559922
They should have genderbender prince events where the male units fuck a genderbent prince. It would give more purpose to raising male affection.

>>13559964
I must confess, I'm partial to the idea of the Prince fucking his entire army.

>>13559964
I've sometimes thought of that idea but I can't say I dig it. If that happened, the focus would be on the male units 'cause that's why you raise affection with them, just as you raise affection with the girls to watch them during sex (and for stats, of course).

And I honestly can't say I dig watching Conrad or Barbastroff having sex.

>>13560003
>can't say I dig watching Conrad or Barbastroff having sex
Well, I don't think I'd dig it if they were the focus, but I could probably get into watching them plough some sweet litttle thing.

>>13559838
They announced 5-6 of them like a month ago.

So on a whim, I decided to try out the Japanese version of LoV. Holy shit the normal lottery in that actually gives cards that are R rated and up. How long will it be before the Nutaku version of the lottery is nearly this good?

>>13560376
you can get R rarity cads on eng too
i have only seen one girl there, she's General of Fire Flare, and only her, have gotten like 5 copies since i started in Jan

>>13560405
Yeah, but in the Japanese version, every single roll was at least R, and one case I got an SR. I'm guessing its due to how much cards they have now, so they give new players that incentive.

>>13560376
>>13560411
Isn't their premium lottery way more expensive too though?

>>13560440
I'm talking about normal lottery.

>I can't bond with Spirit of Iron
What is this bullshit

>>13560583
Doesn't fit

>>13560592
>Full size onahole

>>13559922
There is.

Not currently in EN, but there definitely is one, I'll leave who it is a surprise though.

Are any of these really rapey games? I played tentacles tactics and it was fun. Just looking for something new.

>>13560827
>>13560827
Of the ones I remember that Nutaku announced off the top of my head.

Hellfire Girls
Haven't played it, but, 3d JAV girls. So if the scenes are the video clips like most of the other DMM JAV games; most of them sound like they're being raped. Dunno if that's enough for you.

Lord of Walkure
Mostly vanilla from the cards I saw.

Millennium War Aigis
Also almost entirely vanilla.

Pero Pero Saimin
Hypnotism + Rape for a lot of the scenes I think.

Girls' Union
This one was really buggy for me to play on JP; but I know the very first girl was a rape scene, not sure if that's the norm or not in this game though.

dat paizuri image of Calliope on danbooru though

>>13560376
I don't see the point in comparing the normal lottery if you tend to get more gold lottery spins than regular lottery spins for free. Honestly, the regular lottery is kind of redundant for anything other than getting UCs that are useful for exploration like Delta.

>>13561147
>tfw still unsure whether to CC Calliope or Cloris

>>13559922
They're not in Aigis yet, but they trap is meta-obvious when you see it.

>>13561200
If I had known back when I was in this situation what I know now - I'd have chosen Calliope. Cloris currently cannot be cost reduced.

>>13561200
Calliope, Chloris is kinda of bad in the Nutaku version because you can't Cost Reduce her. Peolpe don't use her on JP either unless they Cost Reduced her during her original event.

14 Cost CCed Chloris vs a 9 Mincost CCed Calliope
Chloris is barely stronger on top of that, unless you Awaken her. Even then, at most she might have 106 more attack. 422 vs 316.

>>13561319
Isn't that much attack kind of a large difference?

Not that anon, but I'm actually debating the same thing, and it just seems like unless you have a ton of Calliopes to try and CR her with, Cloris is the better bet.

>>13561365
Well it is noticeable, but the attack stat makes the big-big difference for /archers/ due to defences.
Magic damage ignores them, so it's less important.

>>13561365
It's a decent difference, but not really enough for the Cost difference.

The maxed Calliope would average out to ~35.1 attack/cost.

Chloris would average out to ~30.1 attack/cost.

And keep in mind this is after not only Awakening, but then maxing Chloris out. (116,999 XP) while Calliope would only cost 32,000 XP.

So you get a unit that is only situationally better (maps with very limited ranged slots), at the XP cost where you could max out 50CC50 4 units.

>>13561388
Uh when something ignores defence something like 100+ attack is pretty huge....

>>13561388
Wouldn't damage be even more important if it ignores armour/defence?

>>13561400
That's definitely a better way of explaining it. Though, min-costing a Calliope must be a real pain in the ass.

>>13561412
No, see, if it is stuck with defence, 100 attack may make damage difference between 0 and 100 or 100 and 200.

For magic, the difference is always 400 vs 300.
And Calliope costs a lot less. A LOT.
Also, that's the difference with AW Cloris, which takes a lot of effort to get and is not even on nutaku yet.

Get yer Calliope.

>>13561425
Yea, to be honest, it kind of is. It's not really something you rush though. You kinda just toss in some duplicates when you get lucky and snag some while farming Event Maps and then hope for the best.

Besides that, if you need stronger Witches (for those maps with limited ranged slots), you can get Platinum Witches / pseudo-Witches from Events; and there's also a farmable Gold Witch for Magic Crystals now in JP. THAT Gold Witch is worth leveling up, since you can Cost Reduce her.

>>13561435
Hm, maybe I'll CC a Calliope then.

I've been hesitant to CC a witch at all on the off chance that I pull something that needs a few silver witches to CC. I only have 3 Calliopes, I think. So I'd be left with 1 spare, not enough to really do anything.

Though I might get fucked over and no events for the next few months will drop Calliopes.

>>13561435
Original anon that asked here.

Maybe I shouldn't bother CCing Cloris or Calliope then. I'm in Nutaku. I still have a healer to CC yet (thinking Alissa) It's just I haven't gotten a new unit yet. All of the ones I have are you get for free/confirmed (levelling, 3* etc etc) no event units or premium gacha bullshit.

>>13561454
No, you should definitely CC one of them (preferably Calliope), but CR can wait if you don't have an abundance of spares.

New Dragon Knight is too lewd.

>>13561435
Speaking of unfarmable CR, how does Katie fare in jp? I still see a bunch of vids that use her awakening here and there, and her max defense is like 100 higher than Aria's. But like Cloris, she can't really be farmed, can you even get extra copies of her? Is the only way to CR her and Cloris just through time fairies?

Third JP event map ranged slots are a trap.

Only place healers and melee.

>>13561555
You can actually; I've personally seen her drop during the Anniversary Gold Rush if I remember correctly. Also, I think a key factor in the reason everyone uses her is because other than Aria (many people missed her Event since it was so early) the only ones who can compare to her are Xenobia and Jerome; which are both Premium-only.

Other than that; yes. Time Fairies only. Which no one would ever even think of bothering to waste on Chloris; and likely not on Katie either.

>>13561558
You can use ranged slots just fine. Make sure you save up points so you can place them, and immediately after place a melee in front to mess up the enemy AI though.

>>13561589
The enemy out ranges CC'd archers on this map and it's like 90% ranged enemies. They out damage a single cc60 healer on the prince so any melee without a good amount of armor will be hurting.

It's not worth the effort to make them work compared to just putting melee around the bishop with two healers.

>>13560969
Hmm, I'll give that Pero Pero a try.

>>13560969
Any games that are less vanilla, more monster?

>>13561735
I don't think any that are Nutaku have announced. There's Tentacle Tactics off the top of my head for Japanese though.

i cant understand how latest event works.
some one explain it to me.
what is start trial?
how do i get the stuff .
all i am getting is red crystals and golden armors

Just got 15 demon crystals from my first daily today, things are looking good.

At 192 and got 3 more runs to do, 4 if I must.

Is there any way I can do crystal keeper H with only 1 CC archer? I only have 1 cc archer right now and 3 silver for Spica. I really really do not want to cc one archer just for grinding now and run out of silver for Spica when I get her.

>>13562026
Maybe.
Do you have 2x 50CC40+ healers? Do you have 2+ 50CC40+ witches? How about a high level damage sponge with MR?

If the answer to any of that is no, then don't even try it. Really, you shouldn't do it with magic damage anyway since the eyes have MR that makes magic kinda useless against them. I think it was 60MR.

I would just hold off until you get a second archer. Before prince buff, both archers need to be at 330ish attack and end up at 390 with it.
Hard mode, for me, has hardly even been better than normal mode. But maybe I'm just cursed with shit drop rates.

>>13562046
Bother my healers are at 50CC30ish
Witches are at 50CC20ish
I have Thetis or Kerry as a sponge so it actually looks doable.

Is there a guide or do I follow etn's video and stick the witches where the archers are?

>>13562026
I've never tried it but you might be able to use 2 extra archers instead and a magic sponge, you should have enough time before the end, or you could just rush to get spica to CC.

Although to be honest the three crystal keepers are still about 1 crystal per 1 stamina.
E is 1.07
N is 1.1
H is the best at 1.26 per stamina

H is the most efficient but it's not like you're wasting too much time if you can't do H like with the affection and gold dailies. Personally I would just wait until you CC spica in that case

>>13562055
Just wait. It's a lot of lost stamina for no real good reason if you fail. I personally get better results farming N mode than I do hard anyway.

>>13562055
>etn
Eth. Check out VP too, I prefer their style. Well, at least that's how I do things when I go in blind.

>>13562026
I doubt you can do it with 1, it's hard enough with 2 if you didn't max affection on both, so I doubt you can leave out an entire archer.

The thing about this daily is that there's not much difference between N and H in terms of reward. It's about 1.1 crystals/stamina for N and 1.2 for H if my info is correct. 36 stamina (24 hours + 12 if you kept full bar) in N give you about 39.6 crystals on average, 36 stamina in H gives you 42.6 (4 times H, 1 times E because 36 isn't divisible by 8).

So each thursday, that's a difference of 3 crystals. It pays off in the long run, but it's nothing to worry about too much. The problem with experimenting on H is that, if you fail even once in the process, you will need to successfully clear H for more than 2 weeks to make up the lost stamina compared to just safely running N instead. So H is only really worth attempting when you are pretty much convinced that your setup is going to work.

>>13562062
That feel when you complete H with 0 drops.

Gah, you guys are right. I am just a bit worried that I won't get her before the shop changes since occasionally I will not be in front of a computer for more than 12 hours so I will miss some of the regen.

...Maybe I will just get some refills.

>>13562065
Chydis only got swapped for Spica recently, so you have a few months to get her. I can't remember when Aigis started, but you probably have at least 3 months.

>>13559902
There's a bit more music on JP with new events, there's a desert map theme and an eastern map theme, and so on.

>>13561606
I first try 3*'d it using plenty of ranged units, I think you're just bad at placing units well

Oh shit guys, skill awakenings for soldiers. Julian and Jerome use their skills automatically, Zenobia gets 20 cost from hers but after using it once it becomes a 2x atk/def buff, Aria and Katie get an additional atk and def buff, respectively, along with lower cd it looks like.

>>13561979
Fuck yeah, got 9 more crystals on my second run, and I've now got my elf archer.

Its so great when a plan comes together.

>>13562184
I guess that awakening will put Xenobia as the best soldier

>>13562205
Not when you need more than 20 cost out of your soldier.

>>13562321
I am more said that Jerome's awakening skill seems pointless.

>>13562330
Yeah his skill awakening should at least give a better CD

>>13562330
Surely there must be some other boost like lower cd or charge.

Good guy devs saving you a second of hand moving and some clicking.

>>13562355
I mean I guess it will help you use the skill 1-2 UP faster which might be a big thing depending on how you look at it. But I imagine at cases where 1-2 UP is crucial, then most people would watch the cd like a hawk anyway.

>>13562361
The thing is, if you don't have to activate his skill, you can have your mouse right over the unit you're about to deploy and get them out without having to click twice first. Still seems pretty lame since that's all you get though.

Would this be good enough to complete Gatehouse Battle? I feel as if I need to CC a mage and healer.

>>13562392
I was able to get past it so you shouldn't have nearly as much trouble as I did.

http://www.mediafire.com/watch/kpc747y4h3rhmdr/Main%20Scenario%20Map%2024%20Gatehouse%20Battle%201%20star%20skip.mp4

>>13562392
I did it without a CC anything. Just need lots of ranged units.

>>13562434
>>13562431
Damn. Easier than I expected. Just about 3* but someone died right near the end. I didn't block the black armour from the left at all right. I did a very different strategy of course to >>13562431 since I have very different units.

>>13562471
Whoo, 3*. 4th or 5th try. Selling both archers and replace with magic is the way to go. As usual. Poor archers. Rogue fucked up their armour instantly too which is hilarious to see.

Went against my recommended logic and rolled premium for an attempt at one of the princesses in the spotlight (only have a Themis, would like any of the more attractive ones).

Gold light, oh man, Conrad.

No, I can't let myself get a bloody Conrad as my premium, one more try, just give me a bloody female.

Another gold light, I bet it's another Stray or Kerry because Demoness reasons (I have 2x Stray and 2x Kerry). Get a Betty. A new girl from the harem, I'm okay with this. She'll be useful when awakening is introduced.

Gonna happily walk away with 1 bad roll and 1 good roll and sit on 20 crystals.

>>13562539
Hey, Conrad's not so bad. Have you seen his awakening art?

I'm not sure which brave soul bothered awakening him, but he looks pretty badass. I mean, that's assuming you are willing to spend the absurd amount of resources to turn your ugly troglodyte into something slightly less repulsive instead of just letting him be fodder.

>>13562392
>>13562522
Next question, how would I fare against Castle Retake? That Lich looks hilariously strong.

>>13562585
>1.8k attack damage for 15 UP

why not?

>>13562166
I 3 starred it too, but the effort I had to put in to try to keep my ranged alive then saying fuck it and retreating everything back to the bishop where I could basically afk wasn't worth it.

>>13562608
It pretty much requires 2 CC'd healers, if I remember correctly.

>>13562608
According to what I read in a vid, it attacks your guys in placement order, so pop a tank down last.

As for your team, I would CC one or more of your healers. You want 600-700 healing power at least.

>>13562608
If you struggle with Gatehouse Battle, you won't be able to pass Castle Retake. It's a pretty fucking big difficulty spike.

>>13562631
>>13562627
Fuck me. Hopefully Monday daily N is faithful and gives me a couple plat armours. I don't think my army could do H, right?

>>13562635
I don't struggle with it. # of tries doesn't really say much in a game where it's mostly which units are where. And from that, it's just level/CC of said units. Very little actual skill is involved. I 3* Gatehouse regardless.

But, seems as if I need to CC a healer or two anyway.

>>13562637
you'll need at least a CCd healer and probably a CCd soldier to do H. so no.

>>13562631
It only goes by last placed if that unit is in range. The top left or right units will be in range before your tank if you place it in the best spot.

>>13562637
Definitely not.
If you're out of luck for Monday, try 1-star skipping castle retake, the next maps are much better grinding (and easier)

>>13562608
Me again, >>13562431 here.

I just did Castle Retake this morning. I didn't record it because I wasn't expecting to actually complete it. But here is the team I used.

In this case, Nanaly probably saved my ass since I used her skill to kill monsters that had killed Phyllis and started getting away. Otherwise she was used as a standard archer that could be replaced with a silver. Since your team is stronger, I think you may not need to worry as much about your units getting steamrolled by the ogres. I was able to kill everything except the lich at the end.

>>13562656
>Nanaly
Hate you so much.

>>13562649
Yeah I hear Dragon Hunting is a god-tier farm/grind map. I'm getting damn sick of Tower Overwatch too. I'll try to 1* Castle Retake. What are the two missions after this one like?

>>13562656
Did everyone in this thread reroll until they got Nanaly? The number of people with Nanaly's is absurd.

>>13562656
looking at your units, Nanally definitely saved your ass. there's no way you could've done castle retake if you had a CCd soma instead of that Nanally for instance.

>>13562660
Dragon Hunting is right after it. However, DH is not really a "godgly" farming map unless what you are after is prince exp. Lower maps have been proven to be more efficient for gold and unit exp. That said, I still farm DH for everything just because it is easy and I don't have to do it as many times.

It goes Dragon Hunting, Remnant Vanquish 3, Flame Dragon, and Immortal Beast. Don't even bother with the last one.

>finally get a plat
>it's a Sherry

;_;

Why why why

>>13562668
Dragon hunting also happens to be absurdly easy as well. You can beat it with 3 units and no skill activations easily by the time you're on the mission. I'm doing it right now with a 100 aff 50cc40 witch and archer and my prince. That's it. Takes 15 seconds or so to set up and I can walk away from my computer or play Witcher 3 or something while I wait.

>>13562684
>Sad about Sherry

Why? She's pretty godly in the category of "blow shit up" duelists.

>>13562684
Well, Sherry is a good unit.

>>13562692
I have 2 Sybillas already. Oh and a Themis.

Premium summonings loves giving me princesses. And rogues of course.

>>13562689
>>13562668
Well I just died to the first wave of gargoyles, somehow. Huge waste of stam. Don't get how I'm supposed to beat it with no good units. Fucking hate how all 7 of my premium gachas were silvers. I feel so cheated. Niggers breeze everything with plats/blacks everywhere.

>>13562662
Incidently, my Soma was the one that finished off the dragon after the lich had killed everyone. Placed her out of his range.

>>13562668
DH might not be the most efficient for unit and gold, but I still spam it even when I'm looking for those, because the extra rank experience means you can recover charisma faster by leveling up, and the higher levels means you spend less time grinding, even if it takes more charisma.

>>13562695
>2 Sybillas
Are you expecting sympathy from anyone here? Tons of us don't have any blacks, much less two and room to complain about getting plats. D:

>>13562695
Considering they are the ones with chance up right now, it's not that strange. Maybe you shouldn't have rolled before the next event.

>>13562695
This is what poor people must feel when they see those #first world problems tags.

>>13562668
The benefit of Dragon Hunting is that it gives enough gold and fodder that you don't really have to worry about gold running out.

>>13562700
Tbh it might actually be the most efficient for gold and units.

The units you get from it will give more exp than those from Return to Ruins, which means you don't need to do as many combinations => less gold spent on it.

>>13562701
>>13562704
>>13562703
Worth noting that I've spent money on the game.

And yeah, maybe it was not wise to do a roll with the current chance up.

seriously thinking about using 5 SCs or so to spam Crystal Hunter H.

I'm sitting at 84 demon crystals and I really need that Spica. at the rate I'm getting those crystals it will probably take over a month if I don't spend SCs to refill stamina.

>>13562698
Here's the basic setup, just add more units where necessary. It really isn't hard, even with silvers. Witch first, archer second, plop prince down after witch takes the first shot from the dragon.

So tempted to buy 100$ worth of crystals since it's the most efficient. Prey to RNG for some blacks and good units through premium and keep a bunch of SC. 20 premium gacha is 100 SC, sounds like an awful lot.

How much have you anons spent? I'm on the fence. I don't want to blow 100$ just to get absolute trash.

>>13562725
Issue is Castle Retake.

>>13562719
I did it last week. No regrets. Basically traded a Bandit Eunice or something for more time with the Elf Waifu so she could be ready to crush stuff next event.

>>13562698
It's tricky. You have to manage your unit points like a pro.
Keep in mind that this isn't my first time through all these maps either.

For Castle Retake, I started off with Cypria in the top left spot, followed by Katie and Phyllis behind her. I put Phyllis in the spot right behind Cypria. And an archer (or witch if you prefer) right next to Phyllis. This is the point where things get a bit close. Usually, a little goblin manages to sneak past Katie, so I had to plop down a mincost solder to kill it - which is the one you see in my posted team above. This is also about the time the armor comes out, and Cypria needs her skill activated to hopefully kill it. If she does, then withdraw her asap along with the soldier that killed the getaway and by this time you need to have enough unit points to place a mage right next to where Cypria was, just above the archer (or witch)

You may then need to place a witch closer to the exit the red flyers are heading to.


Kinda hard to explain, but eventually I'll have a video posted of it.

>>13562719
I'd recommend doing it just before the trading post changes. The current one may stay for months.

>>13562727
100 bucks or so at this stage I believe? I have a steady full time job though so I suppose it varies from person to person. I would never have blew this much if I was still in college.

>>13562727
I've spent around 140$, got 4 blacks, a tons of golds but no plats whatsoever.

The RNG is a bit fucked. But if you do spend 100$, you're doing 30 rolls. You're almost guaranteed to get something half decent from it at least. I mean, at the very least a couple of worthy units.

>>13562741
That's depressing.

>if you spend 100$, you should get a couple good units!

>>13562744
Well, it's the reality.

You might even roll 5 blacks and 10 plats from it lol. I'm saying that if you spend 100$ it's very very unlikely that you'll just end up with a giant stash of silvers and useless golds.

>>13562757
Currently have no job but when I get a job again, 100$ is nigh-nothing. Does Nutaku ever have sales or some shit where it'll make a certain time to buy premium gacha or SC better? Or is now as good as ever?

>>13562769
Nutaku is pretty new so I have no idea, they've never done something like that though.

Not sure if they had stuff like that at JP.

>>13562769
Not that I know of but you do get more SC the more you spend at once. Most notably 50$ is 70SC and 100$ is 150SC.

>>13562668
Immortal beast has nothing on something like 2 pyramids, with its giant mummy kings that hit for nearly 3k when they're low on health, or the mage mummies that are like AoE liches that can hit for like 1500 when low.

Just came up to Castle Retake, think I can cheese my way past it?

Going to CC Calliope next, I think.

>>13563164
lol you've got deine, nanally and bashira. there'd be something very wrong if you couldn't.

>>13563164
I already said it to you, but I'm throwing jelly at my screen.

>>13563189
From what I've seen of the map, it's going to be the early red gargoyles that fuck me over. Nanaly doesn't exactly carry me through those.

>>13563196
put a witch right by nanally.

activate triple shot and you should be fine.

>>13563195
I'm so sorry, anon.

I'm 1 SC away from another prem roll, please stay tuned.

>descendant of a knight
hoho what a good start

What should I be doing? I spent 5 crystals on a summon, but other than that I've kept them all. I'm starting to slow down in story mode, should I just go back to old missions and farm them for units to combine with?

>>13563415
Please don't tell me you spent all silver units before actually CCing anyone.

>>13563426
I don't know what CC'ing is. I've used 2 or so silver units for combine, though.

>>13563415
>>13563430
You fucked up go re make since you invested nothing. keep silver rarity+ they are important. And also read unit's info on what they do.

>>13563430
remake your account, but do a premium summon with those 8 crystals before just in case.

CCing is class changing. kind of like envolving. once your units reach max level you can do a class change which basically resets their level without resetting their stats.

you NEVER want to use silvers for combining unless you know what you're doing.

just remake the account imo.

>>13563430
Well, don't do it anymore. You should only be doing that when you have a shitton of spares, and preferably only on the same unit.

Honestly, seeing as you're such low level and don't have any particularly good unit, I would advice you to restart and not combine ANY silvers.

>>13563430
You fuuuucked up. Go make another account right now.

CC is upgrading a unit to a higher class, allowing to get more levels and more stats. You need other silvers as catalysts to do this, and without special rare events or dumping real money you have a very limited supply, so if you wasted them mindlessly on XP-food, you dun goofed.

>>13563430

If that's the case, I would literally just restart and keep rerolling until I got a black unit (or a Platinum Unit I liked) from the first Premium Summon.

You're going to want to keep your Silver Units in order to evolve (class change/CC) your Silver+ Units.

Do not use Silvers for cost reducing (CR) or increasing skill level until you have plenty of extras.

This game involves a *lot* of grinding where you're going to grind the hardest level you can and level up your core team.

If you get a unit like Nanaly or Sybilla, just use them to cheese through the harder maps.

>>13563442
I've created two accounts, and I've gotten Lancer Kerry on both of the free premium rolls they give me as part of the story for meeting the goddess. Is this set in stone, or is it just a coincidence? If it's set in stone, then do I need to go farm 5 SC for every new account to do a premium roll with?

>>13563511
Yes, it's set in stone. So yes, you have to farm 5 SC yourself.

>>13563511
The first one is scripted, the second one is coincidence. If you're not satisfied, reroll again.

>>13563517
>>13563518
Oh boy. And I need to make new email accounts each time I wanna reroll. This is gonna take a while.

>>13563529
Nah dude, just delete that account and use the same email. Go to Support if you don't know how to delete it.

>>13563537
I wish I had've known this when I was rerolling. I think I have something like 24 email accounts I'm never going to look at again, now.

>>13563529
you can use a temporary mail to create accounts and then change it if you get good stuff.

>>13563537
>>13563549
Oh, cool. That's nice, I can keep my username too.

>>13563556
One more tip if you want to reroll accounts until you get something really nice. Do every map up to Pastoral Gate with three starts, spend the 100 free gold from the account in one more crystal and you'll have 10 crystals to roll premium two times. Decide if what you got is good enough for you, and if it's not, reroll account again and do the same.

I honestly wouldn't stop until I got a black unit that's not Berna.

>>13563569
Probably shouldn't keep Liana either.

>>13563569
>>13563573
Thanks for the help. I was feeling pretty bad about my last account anyway, so I'm more than happy to start over. Any other units that are must keep/avoid, besides Nanaly, Sybilla, Deine / Berna, Liana?

>>13563573
True, true. A healer is still better than a rogue, though.

>>13563583
Almost all Platinums are good. Notable Golds are Mehlis, Betty, Cuterie, and Bernice off the top of my head.

>>13563583
If you get a black unit that's not Berna or Liana, keep it. If you get a platinum unit, post it here. Quality varies pretty hard, so you might get a platinum that pretty much counts as a black and that's definitely worth keeping.

>>13563583
I'd personally keep an account with Jerome or Gellius as far as plats go, but that's just because I like Jerome, and Gellius is a monster.

>>13563592
I get Cuterie for the affection farm, but Betty?

gold rogues are meh. you either want a silver one for the cheap cost or a plat one for higher assassinate skill and stats overall.

>>13563632
Betty has the awakening that increases your gold gains or something, if I remember correctly.

>>13563632
Betty is for her Awakening skill. More gold, I think.

I've been thinking of doing this for a while, would like some feedback:

For rerolling:

Great gold units:
Bernice, Themis, Fedora, Iris, Mehlis.

Good gold units:
Julian, Kerry, Barbastroff, Cyrus.
__________________
Great plat units:
Gellius, Dahlia, Jerome, Thetis, Lilia, Sherry, Bashira

Good plat units:
Cellia, Adele, Camilla, Garania, Victoria
__________________
Great black units:
All except Berna, Liana and Nanaly.

Nanally:
Nannaly

6/How many, Anons? I believe this is the most I've ever gotten on H. Figures since I couldn't do a run this morning as I had to rush outta the house.

>>13563670
I think 6 was my highest number as well.

>>13563668
>Great black units:
>All except Berna, Liana and Nanaly.
>Nanaly

u wot

>>13563685
Nanaly gets her own tier for being stupid broken.

>>13563693
Yeah, but I mean that you also put her next to Berna and Liana.

>>13563698
No, I just excluded her from the "great" tier because she, much like Berna and Liana, doesn't belong there.

>>13563668
>Bernice, Themis
Would move to good.

>Victoria
Would move to great

>>13562661
I have all the black units, but Nanaly was the last black unit I got (before Liana and Deine came, then I ended up getting both afterwards too. Two Deines, even.)

I was aiming for Lilia though, and as it turned out, I got both of them almost back-to-back. I ended up dumping a sizable amount of cash just to get those though.

>>13562695
I have two Sybillas too, but no Sherry. I rolled a few times hoping for her, but I got my second Camilla from my only plat instead.

>>13563722
I'm not sure if Victoria should be in the same bracket as Bashira who seems to be so superior to her.

Also, Bernice is pretty fucking great, 2nd best HA in the game in terms of pure tankiness.

>>13563593
Got this girl and Mehlis in my two draws. Worth keeping, or should I just go for blacks?

>>13563777
meh. she's not bad but you should aim higher if you have the time.

>>13563779
Alright, I'm not too thrilled about her type of unit anyway.

>>13563777
Reroll again.

Before too long you'll be able to do the first 6 maps without looking at the screen.

>>13563777
It's a pretty good roll. My advice is to change the email of that account, keep it in reserve and keep rolling. If you get tired before getting something better, go back to that one, and if not do what I did and gift it or trade it for something you prefer.

>>13563668
I'd remove Kerry. Everyone gets her so it might cause confusion to newbies rerolling.

>>13563668
I'd escalate Mehlis to best gold (with Bernice and Iris being close runner-ups), and Julian to great, since Aria is no longer attainable and we have no way to CR Katie atm. And yeah, drop Kerry.

Honestly, all plat units are great unless you already have their black-tier counterparts (mostly Adele/Despara, though Thetis is better than Clissa and Camilla is cheaper than Liana). Of course, Cypria is obviously a bad roll since you get a free one, unless you really want her cost-reduced or something.

Camilla is probably the best healer we have now that Chydis is out of the trading post, so she should at least be great. Other than that, the only things I'd really change here are mentioning that Thetis is better all-purpose than Dahlia, and Sherry is better than Lilia since we currently don't have any bosses that hit hard enough that would need Lilia's amount of defense to tank.

I still maintain that Berna is amazing for a new account and an early-game unit, and for certain challenge maps.

>>13563746
Victoria is better for most enemies with high defense, Bashira is better for enemies with low defense.

Should you put some effort into raising her skill, she can reach 855 attack with just her skill alone at max CC.

For Bernice, she's good, but she's far too common in both events and rolls.

So I started playing the Japanese Aigis yesterday just to see if I can try out any female units we don't have yet on Nutaku. Ironically, all my premium rolls so far are all male units. Got a monk (who name I can't remember), then got Cyrus, and now Julian.

Not even mad. I'm hoping with this luck that I can get Jerome soon.

>>13563838
I've only played a tiny bit of Japanese Aigis, but from what I've seen of monks, they seem like a pretty legit unit. I rolled a male monk immediately as well and he just tore everything a new one, it was pretty impressive.

>>13563838
Additionally, I've noticed that in the tutorial stages, they give you Christopher instead of Dorca. Why doesn't Nutaku do this too? Then I could actually have a healer for the male Wednesday weekly.

>>13563916
*meant Alissa, not Dorca.

I've only started playing Aigis recently: How often do we usually get events here?

Damn this game got hard fast, are higher-tier units good enough that I should be rerolling or something?

Why are non-Heavy units so damny squishy? I barely use them because they die in 2 hits.

>>13563916
You also get Nenya instead of another calliope, who actually has more attack than Cloris without affection, and only 11 less at 100% affection.

And wanna know the kicker?

She attacks faster too. If you sit Nenya and Cloris next to each other, you'll notice Nenya pulling ahead rapidly.

>>13563938
Right now its a week after the last event ended, the last event ended on Tuesday morning.

>>13563938
I think there is a break of a week between events? Or is it two?

>>13563950
>>13563953
I see, thank you.

Spica really does have all the health of a wet paper bag, great defense and 5 MR too though.

Do all elves have health and MR like this too?

>>13563949
Oh, I haven't done Cloris' missions yet. I'll go do them now to get Nenya.

>>13563998
Pretty much. Looking around, there is a dark elf with pretty good hp, but the rest seem to be incredibly squishy.
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%A5%C0%A1%BC%A5%AF%A5%A8%A5%EB%A5%D5%A4%CE%A5%ED%A5%A2%A5%CA

>>13563916
Because Christopher was delayed in Nutaku. Then they probably didn't want to switch up the units awarded because then old players would bitch that they didn't get Christopher, and new players would bitch that they got a male healer instead of a female one.

>>13564057
Do people really care that much if they get a male unit? If you're playing this just to fap, you're doing it wrong.

>>13564081
Agreed. After getting all these male units on my DMM account, I sorta wish I had more male units on my Nutaku account.

Also, just realized the reason I'm getting male units is in part due to increased drop rate for Julian and Jerome on jp version. Hoping for that Jerome.

>>13564081
People threw a shitfit because they got Calliope instead of Nenya; because Nenya attacks ~.01 more times per second.

You really think they wouldn't throw a shitfit because they got a male unit instead of a female one?

>>13564122
Increased Jerome drop rate on Nutaku when?

He's one of the two units I'm still hoping to get.

>>13564174
I'm not sure if they've been following JP on the rate-ups; but they've seem to consistently been chancing up the units that are really good for the current event. So I guess whenever we get one of those maps that are brutal on cost management.

>>13564128
It's a lot more than .01.

If you put Nenya and Cloris in phalanx 2 next to each other, by the time the map is over Nenya has almost doubled Cloris, and that's just through 10 units.

>>13564223
Datamining says otherwise.

It's .01 attacks per second difference rounded. I'm not sure on the math there, since when I reversed the calculation they seem to be using 30(?) frames per second for calculations, but normally what I've been told in MMOs is 32 frames per second.

But using their exact frames; regular Witches take 58 frames per hit, Nenya takes 56. So in either case, it's only a ~3.5% difference. Nenya gets in about 31 hits where a normal witch gets in 30. Which is approximately a 60 second interval. So Nenya gets in one extra attack every sixty seconds if they're attacking non-stop.

>First black
Fuck.

>>13564398
Could be worse, you could have gotten Berna.

>>13564398

>>13563529
If you have a gmail account, you can put a . anywhere in the email and it will still send the confrimation email.

For example, if your email was abc, you can register with abc a.bc, ab.c and so on. May or may not work with multiple .s.

So today after getting Spica, leveling her to 42(too high) and getting her at 49% affection, i realized I only got the 2 plat fairys needed out of 4 to CC her.

Getting a plat fairys gonna be a real bitch.

>>13564536
might as well just level her without the exp armor then?

people seem to forget that it's not that hard to level 40-50. it just costs a lot of money.

hey, does anyone know if drop rates are affected by how frequently you repeat a mission?
I suspect it's just my imagination, but it often seems like I get more and better drops on missions I sometimes take a break from, rather than keep doing over and over again.

So, the new black unit in JP is like a cross between a valk and Nanaly, and has her awakening skill as soon as you get her because she's a class that doesn't awaken and why the hell not? She's a bowrider with quadra shot and gives -1 cost to all types of rider units.

>>13564550
How much money are we talking here?

>>13564550
I spent all my money getting her to 42. I regret it too.

>>13564552
It feels like that for me too.
After doing Dragon Hunting so much and only getting two units a run, I got real bored of it and just other maps, where I tend to get 3-4 drops.

>>13564568
a plat unit from 42 to 50 should probably take around... err, 80k? considering you're farming dragon hunting and using the level 18 archers.

>>13564568
about eh..

100k?

>>13564577
>>13564582
Well, fuck me. I guess I'll have to wait till next Monday anyways, seeing as how I only have 95k left and most of my units to push to 40.

I thought it would cost way more than that, though. Thanks guys.

>>13564604
honestly it might cost more than that. my 80k might be a bit optimistic.

it's been a while since I've done it the hard way and it's hard to keep track on how much money you are actually expending considering you also get a lot of money from dragon hunting.

but yeah, waiting for monday might not be a terrible idea.

>>13562698

I passed (not 3*) it with no premium rolls, but then again I did some mad grinding to my silvers.

>>13562727

$50 x2, but the premium rolls were after I had more or less finished grinding up a solid silver team. Even with silver gacha I can at least use them for CR/SU/EXP so they're not completely wasted.

>>13564001
I wish I could read moon. So I unlocked Nenya's first scene and for some reason she has huge boobs. I'm guessing the candies she took enhanced her?

*Since she has boobs, Nutaku should have totally just added her.

>>13564668
magical growth pills.

she doesn't use them in the second.

huzzah, I'm about to get my first CC-ed unit!
I know no-one gives a fuck, but I felt like sharing.

>>13564751
Alissa's scenes are so cute.

Would you play Millennium War Aigis if it had no porn?

>>13564786
Does it still have cute waifus? Are the H-Scenes replaced with the dialogue from the All-Ages? If so, yes, I probably would.

>>13563670
>>13563671
the max number of drops for thursday's is 6
what varies is the 'multiplier'(? of the drop

So max drop per run is
6 (drops) x 3 (per drop) = 18 H
6 (drops) x 2 (per drop) = 12 M
6 (drops) x 1 (per drop) = 6 L

>>13564786
i started playing for the scenes but the tower defense mechanics got me quickly adicted

>>13564786
I already do, I play the all-ages DMM version.

>>13564786
Yes (as long as I can still collect waifus). The gameplay is pretty addicting.

>>13564786
I don't know tbh. I was going to say no because porn is the edge it has over other, probably better games, but I don't think I know of any better tower defense games.

>>13564786
Tbh, I got turned off at first by how much effort you have to put in for these non-voiced hentai events. But, after playing it for a bit, I got addicted to the actual gameplay over the hentai scenes.

>>13564786
Yes.

Would I spend money? No.

>>13564841
That really influences your decision? You know the CGs are all on exhentai right?

>>13564786
I think the prospect of pornographic images of some of the characters is what lured me in, but once I'd play it for a while, I pretty much lost interest in the smut, and stuck with it because I like the game.

>>13564786
Not as much, no.

While all I ever do is see the scene once, go "hey, that's nice" and skip, without them there I wouldn't enjoy the game as much.

It's a weird thing I have where just by being there for me to skip, the quality of the game increases. Even just a fade to black will slightly improve my opinion of the game.

Oh, thank Christ. Looking at the wiki, I got the unpleasant idea that I'd need 3 Silver units to CC a Silver unit.

>>13564786
Probably, because most of the scenes are horrendously drawn and look like ass.

>>13564861
As someone who used to download HCGs, it's not the same feeling as actually playing/reading through it.

Aigis would be so much better with voices, though.

>>13564885
Well, depends on the quality of the voices.

>>13564786
As long as the characters are the same, then yes. The all ages version exists for a reason you know.

>>13564911
lol. Forgot to put my name back on my phone.

>>13564885
I understand that for a proper nukige, but Aigis doesn't have nearly as much build-up, it's mostly just the typical H-scene text that consists half of moaning, and what little I saw of the english translation is horrid, if you're playing the nutaku version.

I dunno, maybe being able to read untranslated nukige has just spoiled me.

>>13564878
Yeah that's only for Plat+.

Kill me

>>13565373
dude just embrace your account, i did that with mine (7 consecutives silvers) and eventually life gifted me with a Sybilla and wan't even in this event where she has greater chance

>have a ton of Kerrys, Cuteries, and other gold copies
>no silvers to CC them
>don't want to cost-reduce and waste skill level ups
>shit taking up space

Suffering.

>>13565499
I like embracing difficulties, so I never rerolled my account after getting nothing but silvers for my first 4 or so rolls. Then the day before the increased princess drop, I got Sybilla. I <3 her.

>>13565506
>>don't want to cost-reduce and waste skill level ups
Wut?

If anything wouldn't it be a waste NOT to use a copy? Especially for a skill up? Better than using a rainbow spirit.

>>13565808
He means if he cost reduces it now, he'd not get the skill level up. Which is why its wasteful.

>>13565642
Wait until awakening and you'll love even more

>>13565808
A number of Golds change skill on CC so in order to get the skill up for that unit, you have to CC gold fodder as well.

>>13565866
>>13565971
Oh yea. Forgot about that.

should I just spend my 4 SC on stamina for the crystals or should I save it for my next SC and pull?

>>13566095
Unless you really need one of the Trading Post units immediately, I'd say hold on to them. They'll be around for a good while anyway.

Won gold in LoV contest.
Not enough for even one of the event girls pack, so I cant 2M my Genbu for cheap exploration stats.
What do?

>>13566216
save it for a future event pack

>>13566216
Congratulations, but that was supposed to be my gold dude.

5x / 10x speedup when

>>13566297
They already rolled out auto sortie in JP.

Although it might be nice for farming event maps.

>>13566311
What does auto sortie do?

>>13566353
Instantly clear any story mission you have 3* and all drops on.

>>13566353
If you 3 starred a map and have all the drops. You can literally just hit a button and it will 3 star it for you after 2-3 seconds.

Only works for story missions though.

>>13566358
>>13566359
That seems nice. A faster speedup would still be really nice though, 2x is just way too slow. It also needs to be a toggle button, holding it down is sheer pain.

>>13566368
If you hold it down and move your mouse out of the window, it will still be sped up.

Why does ulmf say to wait for 45 SC before pulling gacha? What the hell is the difference with just doing it every time you get 5?

>>13566406
So you can save 40 in case a really good Event Unit (especially Black rarity) shows up.

>>13565982
Yeah, I should've specified 30CC to help tip that off.

Even for a skill as useless as Cuterie's, I don't want to waste those potential level-ups.

>>13566358
>>13566359
I've also seemed to notice it has a lower drop rate than doing the map normally.

When I was running oasis manually, I got 3 at the minimum every time, and frequently got 5. auto gives me 1 and 2 often, and rarely 5.

Still, I can't go back to manual farming after using auto. It's just so much simpler.

>>13566358
I only just started playing the JP version and was wondering what that button was. Its so easy to farm now, my god.

>>13564885
>Aigis with starless level of quality in writing/voice/art

>>13564618
What sort of strat/placement did you use? I'm eager to just 1* this shitty mission so I can start DH.

>>13566796
I try copying the videos (ie youtube) that do it and it just doesn't work since they have very high level prince/ass load of CC units and they 3* and I can't even 1* even if I do exactly what they do. Tried another 4 times and still fail. It's the black armour + gargoyle rush near the start. Too much gets through, at best I have 1 life left and of course that isn't enough since the Lich will get through. So I need like 2 life left.

>>13566835
Even the rogue strat never works. She gets hit by every black armour attack and never instakills. The difficulty and design of the maps in this game (inc events) are so chaotic and random. It's clear no one tests this or receives feedback.

>>13566852
There's a reason almost no one uses Rogues in JP.

>>13566949
How's English any different?

Anyway, if anyone has a legitimate strategy that doesn't involved being horribly overlevelled/overpowered, do share. This is the usual case though. All the videos on youtube they breeze through and I have to come up with my own strategy. But nothing of my own works so far. Shit out of luck for this mission.

>>13566956
Shit, I have overpowered units and can't beat Castle Retake.

It's always the first wave of goblins + gargoyles, need to drop soldiers and a healer to stop the goblins and black armour, but I need to get a witch and archer out to deal with the gargoyles. Gah.

>>13566956
It's different because two-thirds of the people playing the Nutaku version still have no idea what they're doing.

>>13566992
Exactly right, anon. Either deal with black armour and get fucked by gargoyles. Or setup for gargoyles and get fucked by the armour. I think VP games sat his prince 1v1 against the armour with a healer. But he has like a level 85+ prince with a healer (I think CC)

I wish I had rerolled my account. Having all 7 premiums as all shitty silvers is total suffering. I have no plan B or some OP unit to just carry me through. What I get for not doing enough research I suppose.

>>13567009
Probably like me. Can't even 1* castle retake.

>>13567012
You can get probably get to level 85 in one week if use an xp boost.

>>13566992
1 CC'd and leveled up healer and CC'd Katie can tanl the armor. I actually used non-CC'd level30 Aria to tank the armor with level 40 CC'd healer while CC'd Katie and CC'd Soma handled the goblins. Then I put down a witch and a mage who took care of the flying enemies, another healer on the opposite side of the path, replacing the mage and set down a CC'd mage to a different point along with a second witch. Finally, put down prince and a unit with MR.

>>13567082
I've been levelling somewhat quickly by just doing tower overwatch 24/7 like a slave. The efficiency of it is decreasing with every level. Want to hit DH, really.

>>13567091
How'd you get so many unit points in such short time? That start doesn't sound realistic.

>>13566956
Start searching JP videos if you want reasonable stuff. This shouldn't be anything most people can't get in 1-2 weeks. http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26250830

Replace the JP only units with whatever you have and you probably want to ignore the first armor and focus on the gargoyles to make it easier on you.

>>13567112
DH is terrible efficiency, it's for lazy players who have trouble burning through 300+ cha

>>13567112
My Soma is mincosted and so she takes 9 UP, as does my Aria. Katie takes 13 and I use a Camilla (plat healer) so she takes 21. Using a cheaper healer and as you probably don't have Aria (she was an event unit) and a slightly more expensive soldier works just as well. Note that the healer isn't needed until the armor comes in.

After that, Katie gives 15UP and Aria 10, giving me 25 free UP.

I used them to put down my mage with few seconds of saving and then a Calliope (who you may have cost reduced during the previous event, in which case she may cost less than mine) just as the flying enemies came in. Notice that having the witch CC'd can help a lot but isn't a requirement.

After that you shouldn't have to worry about Up for the rest of the map.

>>13567155
The fuck. How do you figure that? What's the most efficient map then? I've a bit more spare time then usual these days so I can afford to run the more efficient/slower maps.

>>13567161
There are maps with roughly the same XP fodder that cost almost half the Charisma?

>>13567155
The benefit of DH is that it doesn't eat up all your gold like most of the more efficient maps while being easy to grind. It also gives most rank EXP/charisma which makes grinding faster.

[screams internally]

Aigis literally begging me to feed her one crystal on stamina.

>>13567205
Of course. Are you really in such a hurry that you can't wait a week?

>>13567205
Never mind that, forgot that Crystal Keeper E even existed.

>>13567215
>yfw 0 drops on E

>>13567223
Got 1 lol.

70% x 6... right.

>>13566216

Would not have been cheap - 2M Genbu has the same cost as a regular R++

>>13566796

Been too long ago to remember exact details, but my army was pretty much all 50CC20+ silvers and free golds by then (plus a handful of min cost bronze dudes). A couple flyers got through but I killed the lich by putting Eunice down in front of him with 2+ healers.

So you keep 2 healers and some tank on standby until Lich is in position (wiping the rest of your team). Then put down the healers first then the tank so Lich targets the right thing.

>Spirit Rescue N
>First run 1x silver
>Second run nothing
>Third run 1x silver
>Fourth run 1x silver
One of these days. I swear my account is cursed. I very rarely ever get any good RNG, nearly always the worst.

>>13567514
You don't know suffering until you do ten runs of Spirit Rescue H and only get one gold fairy each time.

>>13567525
Not as bad as 7 premium rolls and all are silvers. Dailies feel like such a huge scam. Challenges are more efficient at this point.

>>13567514
>>13567525
I really wouldn't bother with Spirit Rescue unless you're desperate for rainbow fairies.

The only problem is that black fairies are not that easy to get because of war of magic.

>>13567528
Been there before. We've all had our good and bad luck streaks. One time I got Despara and Sybilla almost back-to-back. Another time, I got three copies of Cypria. Shit happens.

>>13567529
I just wanted one rainbow fairy, so I didn't have to see that gaping ? on the rewards list.

>>13566623
RNG that people "notice" is 0% reliable. I don't believe you in the slightest without evidence to back it up.

>>13567546
How much $ did you blow on shoving SC up the Demoness' ass for those?

>literally 40 spare silvers in my box
>0 of the 2 silver healers I need

help

>>13567571
I asked people to guess last time. Nobody guessed.

>>13567514
5th = silver & gold.
Got two blacks out of E last week in no more than 6 runs. Weird.

>>13567597
350$

Man I'm envious seeing lists like that. All my units are confirmed drops. Depressing stuff.

>>13567597
$1200.

>>13567599
Higher.

>>13567601
Lower, thank god.

>>13567607
Jesus christ. How do you justify to yourself to spend a decent bit of dosh on some low quality browser game? Lots of disposable income?

775$?

>>13567612
Close, $750.

I make $600 a week, so eh.

>>13567612
When you have a salary, you spend a bit every time, and it just keep adding up. "Just 5 bucks" this week, "10 bucks this week because that unit I like is on chance up" and when you notice, you've spent hundreds on a game.

>>13567635
Pretty much. Honestly, I just really wanted Lilia, and ended up getting just about every black unit in the meantime. I had a really good early streak after dropping $100-200, then $300-500-ish had some really bad rolls (the aforementioned Cyprias and unlimited silver works). Nowadays, I get pretty good rolls again (multiple Mehlises or plat units that aren't duplicates).

>>13567228
That means you almost atleast got one. Which is accurate. 70% rate is still 30% chance of not getting it.

FUCK YES
I was going to make a reroll guide w/ optimal setups that would get you 3 stars with minimal effort, guess not anymore

>>13567635
That's the opposite of how I do it.

>>13567839
With the current deals, it's much more beneficial to do $100/month or something instead. Of course, if you lack self-control like me, it's more like $100/week until you finally get the unit you want.

I feel bad for the people who dumped thousands into the game already before they released those deals though.

Hey lads, what kind of a force do you need to handle the Normal difficulty Crystal Keeper mission? I think I've managed every other N-level wihout too much trouble, but this one keeps kicking my ass.
I know I could just check a Youtube video, but I like to clear a mission without a guide first time round.

>>13567871
All you need is a tank (maybe katie), a witch, an archer, and a healer. (pretty much in that order)

>>13567871
Use archers, not mages or witches.

Those eyeballs have high MR but low armor if I'm not mistaken.

I shouldn't be using Silver units or up for combine, should I? What should I be doing with them?

>>13567925
Use them for class changing a level 50 unit, primarily. If you can farm up an excess of one, then cost reducing can also be good for key units like Soma, but only if you know you don't need them for class changing.

>>13567871
I had two archers up the front with the Prince just behind. Then dropped a healer, witch then mage.

Hooray, I completed the Solitary Battle 3(the one with the wolves) challenge for the first time, and I didn't need any CC-ed units.
I feel like a champion!

>>13567929
Level 50 seems like it'll take a long time. Guess I better expand my box space if I'm gonna hold on to them for that long. Thanks anon.

>>13567934
Is that the melee one? What'd you do? I'm up to that myself.

>>13567944
It does take a long time, especially past level 40, unless you use a platinum armor with 3 fairies to get 8000 exp at once.

>>13567892
>>13567894
The armours tended to trash Katie and my lower cost armours pretty quickly, while the archers can barely harm them.

>>13567994
I'm pretty sure all you need are archers and a healer or two, and the prince at some point. If your archers aren't hurting them then they need more attack, a strong archer can one-shot them.

>>13568008
Wait, I'm thinking of hard mode, I forgot that lower difficulties have armors. For armors you'll want duelists and/or witches.

Just realized my whole team is CC'd. Think this is enough for Immortal Beast? Biggest worry is that Fedora isn't affection capped, Leanne has 0 affection, and Sherry just might not have the health pool to soak the Liches.

>>13568023
>CC'd
>Sherry

>>13567946
Level 41 Prince, with the 20% attack up bonus.
Stick him on the spot just before the bridge.
1 enemy slipped through completely.
I removed him then stuck Katie on the bridge to catch the last 2 enemies as they slipped past the Prince(a red wolf and a Goblin, I think).The Prince had already softened one of them up, mind.

I think I got a 2 star win. Oh yeah, Katie was level 23.

>>13568023
Sherry tanking the liches is a no-no. You'll probably want someone with at least 2.2k hp or something.

>>13568027
Princesses essentially come CC'd. Problem officer technicality?

>>13568029
Neat. I'll try that when the daily is gone.

>>13567994
It really depends on your level exactly what you need, but 2 archers 2 witches 1-2 healers and your prince can do normal at really low levels. If you have a CC'd archer you only need 1.

>>13568023
>Leanne has 0 affection
What the fuck is wrong with you.

>>13567944
Yes, it is a long time, but if you rush and CC at lower level you miss out on the stats.

>>13568030
2.2k... Without magic resist I suppose? Would 1700 with 10MR suffice? Since taking less damage at a time means healers have more time to bring the tank back up.

>>13568053
Priorities. Started during Return of the Dragon Princess. Needed 2 healers to max affection to keep my duelists up. Needed to buff up the Sherry I got in Premium Gatcha so she could fulfill said duelist role. Same with Sakuya since she got a free 1.5x attack buff during the event. She ended up tearing some stuff up. Haven't used her much since...
Katie gets dropped all the time and needed more def for certain rush maps.
Needed 2 archers for Crystal Keeper H.
Needed strong mages and witches for Maribel Event, so my witches and Mehlis got prioritized.
Just got Spica and she's insane.
Been working on Fedora for 3 heal strat to beat Immortal Beast... Yup. That's all my affection. I just don't have enough atm Anon.

>>13568110
Well I'm not sure.

It's a matter of trying maybe? I'd recommend using Eunice if you have one around.

>>13568023
I'm not sure your tanks can deal with that with only 3 CC healers. I know I used 4.

>>13568053
I don't remember what her affection level is, but I definitely got it high enough for her to fuck the Prince. Also, I don't remember if it was she, or another Armour I tried.

Oh yeah, thanks to everyone who gave me advice on this, it's appreciated.

Last week
>3 H runs
>1 Gold

This week
>1 N run
>1 silver and 1 plat

i feel this daily is too crappy to even bother running H, not a single black nor rainbow in H but 2 blacks and 1 rainbow from N so far

When a skill says "Attack becomes 1.1x more effective", does that means it's increasing by a factor of 110% or just 10%? I'm guessing the latter.

>>13568145
1.1x is 10%.

>>13568133
Oh shit, I misread the guy I quoted, I thought he said somthing directed at me.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.

>>13568145
1.1x = 110%
so if AT = 150 > Skill > AT = 165

>>13568148
>>13568153
Figured so, it wouldn't be that good. Was kinda hoping that they added 1.1 to your original 1.0, thus 2.1, but the skills never felt THAT impactful.

>>13568045
thanks. Should the archers and witches go closer to the front or the back of the battlefield?
(that is, closer to or further from your base, or whatever you call the thing represented by a heart)

>>13568116
Yeah I'm looking at some videos now, I think if I CC a Kerry as the main tank and level a 4th healer a bit I should be able to do it. At least if I can get it to the point where there's only 3 liches without imploding. Definitely need some more tankiness on the lineup in place of the archers though.

>>13568141
as someone who farms extreme, i fear god tier might be the only one that gives good drops

>>13568159
I mean, there are skills that powerful, just not on silvers.

>>13568187
I was asking actually because I got Sybilla and her first skill level increases her attack by 1.1x
How do I raise skill levels, by the way?

>>13568196
dups or rainbow fairies

>>13568202
Thanks. Well, I highly doubt I'm getting a Sybilla dupe soon, so rainbow fairies it is. I'm guessing that's more of an endgame thing I'm not getting for a while, since I'm only level 11 or so.

>>13568196
>>13568202
>>13568212
yeah, it doesn't actually have to be a duplicate unit, just another unit who has the same skill as the one you want to raise.

>>13568227
Princesses have unique skills, though.

>>13568202
Is there a way to reduce cost without using dupes like rainbows are for skills?

>>13568212
Not really, try the friday and tuesday dailies for them, obviously the drop rate for them on the low difficulties is bs but it exists I did get one rainbow from E so lol

>>13568163
Archers in the front(closest to enemies spawn) and witches/healers behind them and your prince slightly behind them.

>>13568252
Would I be able to beat the daily with this team?

>>13568252
Time fairies reduce cost, but they're so rare it isn't something you're going to rely on to lower costs. I think JP has had about 5-6 of them so far.

>>13568260
>bunch of low level trash units
>Sybilla
Fuck you.

>>13568268
I worked hard for Sybilla, anon
>>13565373 ;_;

>>13568260
Level up Katie and Jeanne, you need to stop a lot of wolves at the same time, so Sybilla Fuck You wont help you at all here

>>13568270
Hard work rerolling.

>>13568273
>Leeanne*
Epic brainfart

>>13568196
Sybilla has a pretty high attack stat and gets a massive boost from 100% affection (+144 attack, IIRC), so even her skill at level 1 boosts a lot. One of my level 50 Sybillas has 700 attack if Savior Prince is deployed, which goes up to 771 when Fragarach is active.

>>13568317
She gets around +4 per level and 144 from affection. Leaving her at level 40 is good enough considering the current difficulty of events.

>>13568393
Particularly with so many other blacks that you could level.

Are you allowed to have duplicates on your team? For example, could I have two Jeromes or two Sybillas on my team if I had two of them?

>>13569155
Yes.

>>13569155
Yes.

>>13569158
>>13569160
Oh, that's cool. Full waifu team here I come

>>13569172
15 min-cost Nanaly dream team?

Bleh, on a different comp this weekend while away from home. It can't handle Aigis - always hangs after a while.

Hmm, I've still got 5k Nutaku gold waiting for a decision on where to use it. Not going to cash more for a month or more. To cry over Aigis or to cry over LoV hmm...

>>13567944

Yes it takes a long time, but it'll be so much longer before you get more silvers beyond the 'starting set'. Get those box expansions.

>>13569176
Maps don't typically have enough ranged slots for 15 archers to work.

>>13569368
You could save it for the new games that are coming up. PeroPero is coming next week or so.

>>13569482

Yes, I should be stronger and resist the temptation to whale while the princess rate is up. 70 SC won't be enough for a good chance at a plat+ princess. It's not like I'm short of units to grind up.

>>13569595
but what if you got sybilla

>>13569641
what if he got Soma

>>13569779
then he'd have 13 rolls left

>>13569779
A lot of people would love to get a Soma right now because of Spica.

http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php/437500-Nutaku-Millennium-War-Aigis-%28Updated-5-16-2015-New-trading-post-units%29?p=3677365#post3677365

Seems like an excellent use of the forums to me. Send Nutaku a link to a thread about what events we feel like should NOT be skipped for the love of all that is hentai. Maybe even make sure it is publicly known to try and get all the opinions possible.

So next event is confirmed as either monks or vamps. Better stock up some SC in case of vamps.

How good are monks, btw?

>>13570025
I'm just annoyed that the Karma event might be so soon. I'm not going to be able to do it at all.

Definitely seems like a good idea, how many events have we just straight out skipped? Gold Rush would be perfect right about now.

>>13570047
Just Gold Rush and the one that introduced Ninajs and Samurais.

>>13570047
Gold Rush has two gold archer flat lolis so we won't be getting that anytime soon

Warrior of the east didn't have any event units beside the premium ninja and samurai as well as Saki and Akane from the trading post so we don't really need that one.

If Karma is next then we skipped Odette's event and if the Monk is next then we skip like 6 events I think, but even then they'll probably do them all since we skipped Maribel to get both of Anya's events in a row

>>13570044
Monks are basically two-block Rogues that actually aren't shit unlike Rogues.

Wasn't there also one for farming Clorises?

>>13570025
I don't quite understand why they could theoretically ask for some events but not just ask for everything.

>>13570075
Yes, but that got removed because all of the newer versions of Aigis have Chloris as a Drill Reward like Katie. If it's anything like Bellinda's Event; no big loss either.

>>13570075
That was the very first Aigis event so that's probably gone.

I remember seeing Belinda's event and every map having 2 at the end of the name puzzled me.

>>13570067
Jesus, how hard is it to slightly edit loli characters? I suspect a lot of newer players like myself could really use some gold units.

Well, since it's Monks or Karma, which of those two is the harder event? Maybe I'll be able to cheese a few maps in whichever is easier.

>>13570067
Seems like we have to request skipped events which sounds kind of shitty. https://twitter.com/nutakugames/status/604455131950817280

>>13570091
I did the reprint Monk event on JP like last week and it was really easy. Not sure about Karma but from what I've seen of videos it's not that much harder than Anya's event.

>>13570100
I hear Karma's event isn't that hard its just the amount of grinding needed to get the best reward.

>>13570100
But you need bunch of SCs to get mincost Karma.

>>13570107
How much could one expect to spend for a perfect Karma? I only have 8 SCs right now.

>>13570091

Karma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQaeN9_DE3Q

Rin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ1vGvmKuMs

I did both of them recently on JP. Rin's hardest mission is harder to 3* (because of black wolf spam), but I'd honestly say Karma hardest map is harder overall.

Christ, anything but Karma next. I don't feel ready to drop a bundle of cash on this game yet.

>>13570118
I don't remember the minimum but the maximum amount if you have bad luck is 38 crystals iirc

>>13570120
Fuck me. Looks like regardless of what event is next, I get fucked. Looks like you need a ton of CC units to even bother.

>>13570133
Events are INTENDED for players with a higher end team. If they were made for beginners, then there would be zero challenge in this game for us whatsoever. And it is already easy enough for those of us that have been here from the start.

>>13570133
>Not already having a full team of CCed units.
You have only yourself to blame.

>>13570139
Not my fault black fairies don't drop, otherwise my team would be fully CC'd next Monday.

What does the vamp event unit look like? Is it this girl?
http://exhentai.org/s/4f8201ec30/806294-320
Please don't tell me it's her, or I'm going to cry.

>>13570165
Wrong Vampire Anon.

>>13570165
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%A5%AB%A5%EB%A5%DE

>>13570168
>>13570176
Thank god.

>>13570176
Damn, she's cute.

>>13570120
60 Charisma 6 Stamina map, get 5 event crystals

>Need 1200 for max
Oh boy

So I can clear much higher than Pastoral Gate in story mode, but not up to Tower Overwatch or Dragon Hunting. Should I just be farming Pastoral Gate, or farming the highest story mission I can easily auto?

What's the bare minimum CC'd units for the hard Armor daily?

>>13570336
Usually Katie, Witch, Healer, then Heavy Armor/Second Healer.

>want to go to bed
>low level
>keep leveling up from trying to empty my charisma
help

>>13570288
Depends on how high. Higher fodder level means more expreince gained from them. It's usually better just to do map that give the highest level fodder unless the difference is just 1 or 2 levels.

Also, it may be just me, but switching between story maps increases the drop rate for me.
And it's probably not just me.
>>13564552

>>13570288
Pastoral is for gold farming.

A lot of people suggest Return to Ruins instead, but that's a pain in the ass to auto if your team isn't able to clear Tower Overwatch yet.

>>13570534
>Pastoral is for gold farming.
Isn't Deep Forest Road Better for that?

>>13570589
If you're selling all the units, you have the gold buff, and your luck with fodder drop rate isn't shit, then yes.

http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Story_Missions

>>13570521
I've spammed the same story map (Fiery Oasis) literally close to a thousand times in a row now and the drops are the same as when I started.