/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>1342647
mai waifu

>most badass female VN protagonist ever

if enough people bitch about it will moot make is a /kr/ to talk about starcraft and mabinogi?

Fuck yeah Ssak was awesome.

Starcraft talk happens once a week at the time of lowest site activity. Doubt mods care.

You dingleberries seriously installed a seperate videoplayer to view these korean matches?

Take it to /v/.

>>1343947
I installed TWO players to watch starcraft

>>1343947

VLC plays it fine.

SOCKED IN THE FACE

>>1343977

SSAKED IN THE FACE

well I hope you weren't trying to win that $10000

SEVEN PERCENT

Can't believe Shuttle went out 2-0. He was so awesome last season, he even put out stork (choke, choke) if I recall. All credit to Sasak or whatever his name was.

>>1343986

Ssak may be the Flash of this tournament--out of nowhere ownage.

BABYFIGHT BABYFIGHT

IT'S AWWWWWRIGHT

Baby gonna get raped by carriers.

TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL TOSSGIRL <3

>>1344005

>>1344005
We will get to see more of her in the next round <3 Hopefully she doesn't meet some strong player and get put out. Dunno if there is a tournament chart out yet to find out which two players she could face.

>>1344009
>Sion !U4ZKgLjqPw

>>1344031
>>1344025

Fucking hell now I can't unsee it.

CARRIER HAS ARRIVED!

>>1344040

TERUYOgirl

>>1344009
>>1344025
>>1344031
FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP

Game 3 starting

THE PROBE IS RONERY

>>1344013
ok

LINKS PROVIDE LINKS

A SCOUT.

FOR SCOUTING.

Baby was laughing so hard at his opponent making a scout he cordstompped the monitor cable out.

>>1344125

WHAT A CONCEPT

>>1344115
http://www.gomtv.net/classics2/live/

>>1344133
FUCK CAN'T INSTALL SOMETHING.DLL NOT THERE

>>1344125

BONK

>>1344149
Use VLC

DEAD STREAM

>>1343148
Fucker, that's MAI WAIFUS

>>1344180
Just fine here. Baby is about to win but Heng taking ages to gg.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
FIX THIS SHIT GOM

>>1344194

Works fine here.

Can someone post a TL;DR of the current metagame & balance?

ITT: People don't fucking know what protagonist means.

>>1344200
>>ITT: People don't fucking know what protagonist means.

I think it means lead/principal character. Good thing this thread is filled with female leads.

Also, two angle brackets for quotes! Two!

there are really small amount of games with female protags. My vote goes for Ikumi (Moon.)

Fleet beacon? Fleet beacon? Fleet beacon? Fleet beacon? Fleet beacon? Fleet beacon? Fleet beacon? Fleet beacon? Fleet beacon? Fleet beacon? Fleet beacon? Fleet beacon? Fleet beacon? Fleet beacon? Fleet beacon? Fleet beacon? Fleet beacon? Fleet beacon?

Fleet beacon.

>>1344202
jaedong and flash rock
stork is a jobber

HERE COME THE CARRIERS!

Fleet Beacon?

Medic Marine against Carriers?

OH MY GOD!

OH GOD THIS IS AMAZING

>>1344223
I haven't played underwaterrayromano, explain this to me

I was so expecting another scout

These matches are boring

Where are the good players

THAT WAS THE MOST AMAZING MATCH.

And I thought the scout was fucking weird, I had no idea what I was in for in the second game.

>>1344259
they all got byes

>>1344259
The top players are seeded to the next round. Except for Shuttle who is now out BAAAAWWWW ;_;

>>1344259
>good players

In the previous match a world-class player that was in the semifinals in the previous tournament lost to a newcomer, what are you talking about?

>>1344262
Saw a medic marine against protoss in the first season and they all got splatted by reavers in seconds. Can't believe baby pulled that off.

>>1344274
He pulled it off due to his perfect timing. And due to the fact that heng was going for carriers.

In other words, he's a lucky bastard. Or fucking psychic.

Game 4 starting. Time for some mutalisk masturbation.

what happened in the last game? my stream died

>>1344335

Firebat/medic

>>1344335
Horrible horrible rape.

>>1344335
Stay got raped, second game was over real quick. Also they said there will be live games this tuesday as well.

>>1344344
There will even be a non-korean having a match on tuesday.

Although it won't be broadcast.

>>1344346
Hopefully he can manage to win and get into the fully broadcast round.

>Next match starts in 1 days 20 hours 15 minutes!

Fuck, I thought this was starting next week...

Holy fucking shit, Tasteless has purple hair.

Are there recordings of the previous matches available? I wanna see Tossgirl SCV rushing ;_;

Where are you guys streaming from, anyway?

>>1345522
Disregard that.

>>1345522
Just incase anyone else wonders the same question all the videos of the matches will appear here after there played. You can also see the season one matches and the short invitational tournament that came before it.

http://www.gomtv.net/classics2/vod/
http://www.gomtv.net/classic/vod/
http://www.gomtv.net/gsi/vod/

is savior in this tournament? I only watch the games that he plays.

>>1345687
Maybe..he was in the live chat.

where can you go to view all the groups and all the players in each group?

>>1345687
I do recall seeing his name in the rooster (which I foolishly didn't save, oops). Obviously he's a seeded player, so we won't see him until round 3.

Also, Tossgirl will never make it to round 4. If she doesn't get killed in round 2, she'll never get past her seeded player.

Also, because there can't be a Starcraft gaem thread without this...

anybody think that Z v T is a little biased toward Z? So many Terran players are 60%+ while most zerg players are 50%+.

wait what happened to Toonami?

>>1344242
Her name is Carrier, and she's here to carrier.

>>1345770
Good night sweet prince

tossgirl is pretty good, but she's still much too messy with her controls. modern sucked hard; way too naive and even more messy

>>1345705
Tossgirl won't lose! She's the best... ;_;

>>1345770
Last airing was last night

manly tears, etc

I'm still waiting for someone to post what their goodbye message was, I hear it was somewhat of a letdown instead of something awesomely epic involving Tom

>>1345750

Z > T > P > Z

It's part of the game balance.

some gay thing about tom banging his beautiful friends

first of all, I'm a starcraft noob so...
>>1347464
>Z > T
I see it more like Z = T. Eradicate is good against mutalisks ontop of each other and it's useful against defilers, but dark swarm is also good against terran as most of the terran units are ranged.
And sure terran has awesome siege tanks but an equal amount of ultralisks aren't shabby either I think.

>T > P
This I can see why. 3-4 EMP shockwaves would literally cripple any protoss army...

>P > Z
This I don't have any opinion of since I haven't seen enough games of.

>>1347464
Nonsense. There is no such order.

Look at BeSt. He's an A+-level Protoss player and he has an 80% win ratio against Terran (unheard of levels). Then you have people like Flash who have 70% as Terran against Zerg.

Also, Jaedong is an S-class Zerg, and he eats Protoss for breakfast. There are no clear-cut race matchups where one player has an obvious advantage.

>>1347547
Also Stork, a top Protoss player who does amazing PvP and PvT, but always chokes in PvZ.

>>1347547
Exactly. One of the reasons why Starcraft is an e-sport is that it's so balanced. On the competitive level at least, there is no clear cut advantage any race has over the other.

Seems to me like
T > Z
Terran medics + marines with stimpack's are just so powerful that they chew through Hydras + lings and the only thing that is required is an academy with can be put up minutes into the game and marines are produced so fast that losing them is not a big deal. Sci vessels are just so powerful Irradiate does like 300 damage over time + splash damage for only 75 energy, Lurks + Guardians + devourers just get irradiated to death while rines just chew through Hydras + lings. The scivessels can also Irradiate a scivessel and kill all the drones.
Z > P
Zergs can gain air control so easily with scourges, Due to Toss not being good rushers like Terran most zergs will be able to get 3 hatcheries before the Toss push comes. Goons get raped by every zerg unit except lurks, most Toss vs Zerg battles are won by reavers which can be so easily sniped off by scourge, Toss are poor at containing so Zergs spread all over the map and sauron to victory.
P > T
T pretty much has no effective units, barrack + starport units are all useless. Observers allow Toss to easily pick off mines. Psystorms can devastate stacked siege tanks, if siege tanks are not stacked they lose a lot of power. The Terran has to turtle in the toss during midgame or else the more mobile Toss army is able to go around raping expansions and return home to defend agaisnt the counter attack. While P does not really have an advantage against Terran, the Terran has pretty much no other strategy other than tank + vulture push.

>>1347619
Most T players would already tech towards Scivessels and those are good enough at handling Protoss. Throw an EMP on top of a P push and you've halved their dmg soak and basically ruined psystorms and other abilities. if you have the resources, a ghost could lockdown almost any of the protoss units.

>>1347619
Firstly,
>Guardians, Devourers
The former is rarely seen, the latter is rarer than a scout. Too gas-expensive, easily countered.
As for Terran vs. Protoss, you seem to have completely ignored Defilers. Dark Swarm REALLY hurts Terrans, as their only melee unit is the rarely seen Firebat. Sure, Science Vessels can Irradiate Defilers, but Zerg always keep a lot of scourge at hand to deal with them. Also, a single Plague can reduce a whole control group of Science Vessels to 1 HP, who can then be finished off by a single Mutalisk hit.

Protoss have plenty of ways to make life hell for Zerg. You need to watch some of Bisu's games. Lately, 'Sair-Reaver has been growing in popularity. The Corsairs (in decent numbers) rip through Scourge and Mutalisks, and Hydralisks get wasted by Reaver shots.

Too tired to type more, but let me just say:
>While P does not really have an advantage against Terran, the Terran has pretty much no other strategy other than tank + vulture push.
Didn't you see this?
http://www.gomtv.net/videos/262

>>1347708
>http://www.gomtv.net/videos/262

that was hilarious. tasteless was having orgasms all over the place

>>1347619
>Zergs can gain air control so easily with scourges, Due to Toss not being good rushers like Terran most zergs will be able to get 3 hatcheries before the Toss push comes. Goons get raped by every zerg unit except lurks, most Toss vs Zerg battles are won by reavers which can be so easily sniped off by scourge, Toss are poor at containing so Zergs spread all over the map and sauron to victory.
Uh. Corsairs would like a word with you. Vs Protoss FE most of the times a Protoss defense can hold out before the Z push comes and rape overlords with corsairs.

Fuck yeah starcraft

PREC HERE

I'M THE BEST ANON AT SC

>>1347619
Lurks eat M&M alive, just so you know. All you have to do is move lurks in towards M&M, then move lings in. You have to time it just right where the lings get into marine firing range just as lurks start to burrow. Works best if you can flank.

Enjoy your dead marines and medics. And if they have a science vessel out, a little matter for 2 scourge to take care of.

prec is the best at sc

>>1347708
3 barrack 2 factory 2 marine + tank push only worked because the other guy went fast carriers, I have seen rines + tanks fail more than succeed. It just does not work all the other player needs to build is 2 high templar or a reaver and your entire game is lost because you fucked up your build.

Defilers do not seem that effective versus Marine + medic because the marines can just move out of the swarm it only seems effective unless the Terran sieges up because the tanks cannot unsiege + move out of the swarm in time. Plague is pretty effective but Medic Marines are produced so easily and cheaply that it does not effect them that much all your higher level units getting irradiated will hurt a lot more.

Sair reaver gets owned by 2-3 devourers, it only devastates if the Zerg has lost the airbattle or the Zerg is too spread out (Savior style) that they can't defend all their expansions and rely on keeping the enemy pinned back into their natural.

>>1347746
I saw your fail, and so did the archive ;)

>>1347619
I can tell that you don't play Starcraft except vs computers.

>>1347755
>;)
Get the fuck out, you asshole.

>>1347751
>Defilers do not seem that effective versus Marine + medic
I read that and just stopped reading.

lrn2starcraft

>>1347760
Take it easy ^o^

>>1347760
age for his rage

>>1347751
Defilers are the turning point IN TvZ late game if the Z is good enough to keep the Vessel count low. Plague means 1 hit kills + 0 Medic energy, swarm means more micro management to escape while lings and lurks can follow up with free hits. L2 SC

Protoss was here, pic related

>>1347739
>Lurks eat M&M alive

only if T player has poor Micro or is caught unaware, most T players are able to stim + run out of range before the lurks finish burrowing. If you send lings the rines can outrun them. Not to mention Lurks waste so much precious gas that the Zerg player will have to wait to delay hive tech while Marines + medics use no gas so Terran continues teching.

>>1347619
>reavers
>easily sniped off by scourge
wat

>>1347776
i just shoot them

>>1347776
Apparently you missed the part where I said: Works best if you can flank.

If you flank the M&M group then they are fucked when they try to run away from the attacking ling/lurk group into your flank.

Am I the only one enjoying watching those intro videos, and watching the team do random shit? It's nice to see these young people who are virtually superstars out there still enjoying themselves. No matter what happens they'll all be friends for life.

>>1347772
>lings and lurks can follow up with free hits

stimmed rines = no free hits for you, lings might be able to land a couple of hits on the medics but it won't be enough to kill them.

>>1347751
>3 barrack 2 factory 2 marine + tank push only worked because the other guy went fast carriers, I have seen rines + tanks fail more than succeed. It just does not work all the other player needs to build is 2 high templar or a reaver and your entire game is lost because you fucked up your build.
Agreed. I just wanted to show that there are alternatives to the standard Mech push.

>the marines can just move out of the swarm
Enjoy having your critical buildings Dark Swarmed and raped with Zerglings and Ultralisks.

>Plague is pretty effective but Medic Marines are produced so easily and cheaply that it does not effect them
Plague is rarely used on M&Ms. It is used on Sci Vessel groups and buildings. It cancels out the threat Sci Vessels using Irradiate pose to Defilers.

>Sair reaver gets owned by 2-3 devourers
With 'Sair reaver the game will end before you have a chance to finish morphing your Greater Spire, let alone gather all the gas you need to make Devourers.

>>1347789
you must have watched 0 pro games...

>>1347800
Devos require more minerals than gas anyways.

/jp/ - korea/general

>>1347789
He means you use the Scourge to pop the Shuttles the Reavers travel around in.
Of course, that won't work with Corsairs providing escort.

>>1347799
Hahaha oh wow. This post made me laugh so hard.

>>1347811
Unless he was talking about the shuttle that carries the reaver, scourge can not directly kill a reaver.

>>1347800
>With 'Sair reaver the game will end before you have a chance to finish morphing your Greater Spire, let alone gather all the gas you need to make Devourers.

getting critical mass of corsairs (6) + gas for (2-3)stargates + robot facility + support bay + gas for shuttles + reavers > gas required for greater spire + gas for devourers ( assuming Zerg is using modern Zerg build where they put down a spire + hydra den then tech to hive to get Ultras + defilers as endgame units). Not only has the Zerg player countered the Toss player for less the toss player has now fucked up his build so that he has to go carriers if he fails to do enough damage with his reavers. (not to mention that the Zerg player will usually be up a expansion so that they would have more gas)

>>1347851
So... you're not going to get any Hydralisks to counter his Corsairs that are flying around sniping at your Overlords? You'll need several to cover your main and your expansion(s). That alone requires lots of gas.
I actually agree with everything else you say, except the Devourers part. I play Zerg and I would naturally go Hive to get Adrenalings/Ultralisks. I'd counter his 'sairs by hiding Hydralisks around the map.

i'ma scout your base with my scout, lolz

ITT people who don't know that at the pro level, the current balance for ALL pro games win ratios is:

Terran: 51%
Protoss: 50%
Zerg: 49%

It doesn't get much more balanced than that in a game with such different races, really.

>>1347955
Wow, Terran is overpowered.

Hydralisks lack the mobility to stop corsair + reaver. Thats why modern Zerg build the Zerg player puts down a Hydra den + Spire, The Spire is just used to wrestle air superiority away from corsairs + muta harrass + scourge scouting.

You do not need a large group of Devourers, the main reason for Devourers is to snipe the shuttle you only need 3-4 to be able to pop a shuttle in several hits, The strategy is to let your opponent drop reavers into one of your expos then send your devourers to aim at the shuttle ignoring the corsairs, as for popping overlords just keep your overlords with your army or protected by 5 hydras and don't use them for scouting.

Watch every game where Zerg goes hydra vs corsair/reaver. The toss is able to strike the expos, splitting up your Hydra groups around the map will just get them picked off by reavers. Thats why most pro Zergs that try to go Hydra vs Corsair/Dt they keep all their Hydras together and send them to the expo getting harassed but by the time the Hydras reach the reaver has already done a shitload of damage and runs away using the shuttle to strike another expo not to mention the sairs can drop disruption webs onto the Hydras.

>>1347965
forgot link
>>1347896

>>1347965
Well, you sound like you know what you're talking about. I just haven't seen Devourers used in that situation. Can you recall any pro games that used this strategy?

hold position was here
medic marine is babies

All last season I don't think we saw even one devourer or a ghost. There where some great Battlecruiser battles.

>Next match starts in 0 days 21 hours 15 minutes!

Game #1 Organ(T) VS Calm(Z)
Game #2 HerO(P) VS Barracks(T)
Game #3 Hery(T) VS Endless(P)
Game #4 GoRush(Z) VS mingu(P)

US Dollar/South Korean Won
http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=FOREX_USDKRW&v=i

U.S.Doller vs. South Korean Won 09/22/08
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4710882
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4708124

KOSPI - Korea Composite Stock Price Index 09/22/08
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/nm4707493

Enjoy!

need moar TITTY SAMBO

>>1351188
TITTYSAMBO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFyAUf0y9ik

>Next match starts in 0 days 9 hours 35 minutes!
Same time as it normally is on a Sunday.

Just about to start
>Next match starts in 0 days 0 hours 14 minutes!
http://www.gomtv.net/classics2/live/

KESPA SANCTIONED

Multalisk harassment followed by guardians to finish him off.

SOOO MANY ULTRALISKS

ULTRAS SO MANY

The way Tasteless looks at the camera makes me lol.
Also I've been watching this since last season. Funny to see it discussed on /jp/ though.

That was alot of ultralisks. The guardians really sucked.

This chick is hot for tasteless.

Terran getting raped.

TITTY SAMBO TIME

FFFFFUUU wat this i miss?

BARRACKS YOU NIGGER WHY ARE YOU LATE?

CARRIER HAS ARRIVED!

am I the only one to remember WATERBATS

Carriers are unstoppable unless you are Flash.

TITTY SAMBO!

FAILED SCV RUSH

>>1355129
Die in a fire, maybe?

Dead stream here just before another protoss recall.

did I just see a shuttle full of probes attack a tank drop?

>>1355162
Yup. Game was already over at the point but Terran was just being annoying.

Protoss really took forever to put the killing blow in.

ENTRANCE BUST