/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>13325652

People like me who don't leave the house are a minority.

The Japanese government, however, likes to pretend its a massively destructive social phenomenon.

>>13325652
>What is it about otaku culture that drives so many of its consumers to take up the hikkikomori lifestyle?
You got it backward, it's the other way around.

>>13325687
I assume the majority of otaku culturalists became that way before becoming career age. In any case, whatever the causative agent, this correlation deserves investigation.

>>13325652
I can assure you otaku culture isn't the culprit. I shall invite you to the year 2020; VR is in every American home. In this time period VR is mainstream, widely adopted, and socially accepted as the 'social' platform of today. People would rather be in VR than go outside because it's like the real thing..why even bother!

Want some delicious restaurant food? No problem! Just order a drone to drop it off for you. Turn on that pass-through camera and enjoy your lunch with your friends in VR while on miami's hottest beach! Life is grand in the year 2020. The streets are empty like never before!

Meanwhile in Japan, otaku culture is on its deathbed....yeah right. It isn't going anywhere. VR will normalize hikki lifestyle amongst norms and when that happens we will all get basic income. When basic income comes nobody will work and everyone will hangout in VR.

>>13325855
2020 is a little too soon for this kind of fantasy dood.

>>13325855
>When basic income comes nobody will work and everyone will hangout in VR.

I think the type of people who are susceptible to, for lack of a better word, "geeky" pursuits are simply less compatible with our current society, some more than others. I think that there's been a noted trend of these kinds of people responding positively to characters who they can empathize with, and the type of person you'd describe as "otaku" are also well known to respond to cute girls, so they simply created cute girls socially awkward otaku could empathize with.

I suppose you could argue that these characters normalize their behaviour, but I don't think it creates more hikkis among people who weren't halfway there already. I've had reasonable encourage anyone who empathizes with characters like Tomoko Kuroki to seek professional help, as they simply can't understand that type of behaviour.

>>13325958
>VR is in every American home
Consumer edition should be done by the end of the year. If it doesn't get delayed. Again.
>VR is mainstream, widely adopted, and socially accepted as the 'social' platform of today
Already exists, minus the full vr aspect.
>People would rather be in VR than go outside
Already exists. You'd be surprised how many normies just want to sit around and do nothing when they're not working.
>Just order a drone to drop it off for you.
Already exists.
>The streets are empty like never before!
If fucking only. Driving is a nightmare with all the morons around here. Google Cars (already exists, but not mainstream in America yet. Other countries already have other automatic automobile systems in production.) can't come soon enough.
>otaku culture is on its deathbed....
Already exists, sadly. The chic geeks have already won.
>basic income
Soon. Very soon. It's coming next year in Switzerland, and no 1%ers want the streets of America to be lined with starving corpses of the constantly-increasing homeless and unemployed. How long it will take for the US to get it, I don't know. The real question is whether or not you still get med money/neet bux on top of it.
>When basic income comes nobody will work
Unlikely. Despite what I said earlier, people still want to work because "it gives them something to do." Not working will still be stigmatised, and normies are still going to keep up the constant charade of 1-uping each other by spending as much money as they can on the stupidest shit they can. They'll need more than the basic income to pull that off.

tl;dr Just you wait.

It's called pandering to an audience, retard.

>>13326740
Characters glorifying the NEET lifestyle appearing in Anime is reminiscent of blacks appearing on TV in the 60s, as a precursor to civil rights legislation, or gays appearing on TV in the 90s, before gay marriage legalization. When it comes to attitudes about working, welfare reform, and humanity's place in a highly automated future, NEET are literally the gay niggers of the 21st century.

Hikki lifestyle is the logical consequence of being anihilated in social situations for being sub-5. Notice how all VN fans have recessed chins, estrogenic faces, small wrists, and other undesirable physical traits. It's 100% genetic.

Also, this explains why female hikkis don't exist.

>>13326871
One of those industries is funded exclusively by garbage nerds and their horrible parents. Can you guess which one?

>>13326865
One of those industries is funded exclusively by garbage nerds and their horrible parents. Can you guess which one?

>>13325652
Otaku media, especially visual novels and anime have always had heavy amounts of escapism in them. Today the average Japanese working life post schooling is very stressful and doesn't leave the average person a lot of time to themselves. They're often overworked and their employers are overbearing.

>>13326871
I had severe cystic acne and wore the same grungy shit on a near daily basis. I could probably pass as an 8 now while still being an effective recluse.

You've decided that this media makes people into hikki, not that hikkitachi choose to consume this media.

Ok, someone already inclined might do it as they find that last piece to complete the non-going-outside symphony, but that's not due to the media alone.

There is no fucking way it would turn a true riajyuu into a recluse. They were merely pretending, or deluded, before, if this is ever the case.

Most media is about the power of friendship, and shit, which is the exact opposite.

The world is exponentially trending towards not interacting in person with people, though. Even baby boomers now sit on their Goyphones for hours on end after spending decades complaining about anyone using electronic entertainment. They don't use it in the same way, though.

It's 'hikikomori', by the way, not "hikkikomori". "Hikki" is correct, however.

>>13325687

Way too early.

You're like those who predicted, during the 60s, that we'd definitely be living in outer space before the millennium. Or that immortality would be available within a decade of the first heart transplant.

I'd say we're going to see a gradual increase in unemployment over the course of decades, with several futile initiatives to change it enacted. Over time, universal wage will become a hot topic in election campaigns, mostly from fringe parties, but it will slowly creep in to the mainstream, with some 'lite' versions tried first, before being enacted.

Many will oppose it because they are oblivious to the world around them.

Uh, I only made this because the other NEET thread got deleted, idiots.

>>13327290
At least read the thread if you're not going to look anything up. I swear all newliners have the same mental deficiency.

>>13331053

So is this the current NEET thread then?

>>13326705
>consumer VR
Like the oculus? Is there a consumer version coming out? Paying upwards of 350 USD for a unit that could easily become a staple of modern society is way too high.

As for drones, they really can't produce them quick enough. Amazon prime+: delivers within the hour.

>>13331267
There was always going to be a consumer version. It's not finished yet. What people have now are dev versions. The consumer version will be much cheaper.
No other vr product is worth mentioning so vr might as well be synonymous with oculus.

>>13331418
The Valve-backed in conjunction with HTC "Vive" has been making noise around press these last months with it allegedly feeling better than current Crescent Moon builds, but their price point estimate isn't exactly consumer/entry-level, so that's that.

>>13325855
>>13325985
I don't want norms omnipresent in my VR world. When that happens, I'm just gonna go outside. If there isn't anyone outside then it's fine to go out.

>>13331418
You'd think after getting bought out by Facebook, they'd expedite it or at least pump a shit ton of cash into it. Facebook the head of public VR? Why the fuck not.

>>13331456
The virtual world has infinite space, so you can always escape to whatever the equivalent of /jp/ is.

>>13331267
>Paying upwards of 350 USD for a unit that could easily become a staple of modern society is way too high.
Smartphones started out that way and now all society people have one. Mass production lowers prices.

What did /jp/s hikkis do today?

>>13331548
Cleaned the entire apartment to the bone. (again) Enjoying sunset on the balcony.
Prolly gonna spend a few minutes tagging more music. Then watch a movie or play a game till I fall asleep.

>>13326705
Most relaxing post I've read this month.
Makes me feel at ease, thank you.

>>13331548
I feel detached from my usual hobbies, so I've been browsing the net all day. Every time I think about doing something I feel overwhelmed.
A NEET's spirit is truly something of whimsy.

>>13325958
I thought 2015 would be way too soon for VR to exist.

>>13331548
Contemplated pooping, didn't poop. Ate some food and discovered a brutal folk-punk group.

>>13331541
Except normies have poor concepts of cost over time, so all those 600 dollar smartphones "only" cost them 40 bucks a month for 18 months. You can't subsidise this in the same way.

VR is still just as much of a gimmick as it was in the 90s. A neat thing you'd pay a couple of bucks to try out in an arcade if they still existed, but you wouldn't be out buying an arcade cabinet, would you?

VR has miles to go, a phone screen positioned close to your face with low latency head tracking isn't anything anyone will be using on a daily basis. It's like onaholes, it's better than your hand, but pulling them out and using lube is a hassle, nobody wants to bother with cleanup every time they fap.

>>13331541
I still use a $20 phone from the mid 2000s and refuse to waste my money on mediocre hardware priced more than its specifications justify.

>>13332486
No it's more than just a screen to your face and head tracking. You're forgetting about all the software to make it work that the 90s never had. A powerful GPU, greater bandwidth speeds, accurate eye, hand, and facial tracking; the feeling of presence that Valve established. Lighthouse technology allowing you to walk in a 15x15 space and mobile VR which never existed in the 90s thanks to smartphones (let me remind you smartphones are powerful pocket computers).

Audio was never fully tackled in the 90s and is critical to VR, only now we have really good products for sound. And you couldn't attach usb onaholes to your computer and have real-time sex with avatars in the 90s in VR until now.

There was no VR dedicated OS in the 90s either, and companies like Google is now working on it. Again, it's more than just the hardware.

>>13332524
Wow, you must be so cool and underground.

>>13332659
Never really thought of it that way. Why would I want to spend more than $80 on something that can already be done more efficiently with a laptop + shitty phone?

>>13332677
It's true, smartphone is useless.

>>13332694
Maybe it isn't for some people, I've just yet to discover what that reason is. Until that day I wont be using one.

VR /jp/ when?

>>13332872
Next year at this time.

>>13332486
Oh look, it's this pasta again.

>>13332701
But how will you play touchscreen based pay-to-win mobage without one?

>>13332645
Nobody is going to spend another grand on extra shit.

Eye tracking is still in its infancy when it comes to HMDs, and it'll ruin video games by giving everyone aimbots when it's finished. Hand tracking is terrible and janky. Movement tracking is worthless unless you happen to have a nice open room with nothing in it, and enjoy playing games where you're constrained to tiny rooms.

Nothing I've seen or tried so far makes me think that VR will have a lasting presence in the gaming industry, aside from the obvious sim markets. And they'll only work if they just use the passthrough cameras to show you where all your buttons are, but I think the camera latency will make it frustrating.

It's not going to lead to a second life clone where you can make an avatar and have sex with nerds. Honestly, the one thing I'd be interested in VR for is as a real way to get your hands into the game, but that's a pipedream until we have some way of creating feedback to you hands and fingers. I don't want to loosely "hold" onto the air around an boob, I want to feel it. To me, that's going to be the real wow factor.

>>13334604
>it's not going to lead to a second life clone
It isn't? That the only thing I think will come out of it