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>>13289893
Get a real waifu already...

>>13289952
;_; I-is she fit again?

>>13290001
Fit for オワコン.

>>13290025
The best times

>>13290025
It's sad that she can never wear that again.

New Megu diary about the recent graduates

Just got an e-mail confirming that I won the lottery for the LE UK show blu-ray!!! Anyone else get notified??

>>13290927
Was there a lottery? How did you enter it?

Can you upload the ISO or MKV for the spreadsheet?

As if she's not fat enough, they have to choose to shoot her from the bottom.

>>13290927
>>13290942
Please stop.

>>13290714
Chubby Ayami is too sad to watch

>>13290956
>>13291098
Hey guys, stop bullying ayami. Its not cool and i won't stand for it.

>pic related, it's ayami in her new photoshoot

Raura is such a qt

>Only 2 Su's in the thread

I raise the banner of my fallen brothers.

The Babybook page goes online around midnight Japan time.

>>13289909
>Thier spanish sounded better than their engrish.
>why didnt they just do the whole thing in spanish?

>>13291916
Spanish and japanese are very alike in pronunciarion (it's weird), that's why even when they know zero spanish vocabulary it sounds better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm4STuQVh_E

>>13292188

I love seeing this as my waifu dances so hype. Su is so great.

>>13292294


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq4ql4nwS94

>>13292314
I wonder if when BM "fans" know about some Su's significant other will they turn their backs to her, as otakus did with aya

>>13292329
I know I will

What keki for 18th?

>>13292329
Wasn't it that Hirano talked pretty brazenly about her experiences with past boyfriends. She's not an idol though so she didn't "betray" anyone.

I'm not sure what to expect from Su. Sometimes I wonder if she looks at Himeka and thinks "thank god I don't have to do that", lol. Himetan has quite the burikko character, doesn't she?

>>13292501
a mad jealous bassist was who let the word out, she wasn't a proper idol but her fans boycotted her hard, she never recovered

Appart from that, i was asking the question because I hope Su's male fanbase isn't like the idol one type full of creeps.

>>13292587

I would be upset that it wasn't me with her, but being realistic that most likely will never happen ;_;.

As long as Suzuka is happy in her relationship then I will support her in her decision and smile for her. The joy her performances (and mere presence in media) bring me are enough to make me owe her that much at least.

If someone ever hurts her or upsets her in those relationships though, I would be angry (to put it lightly) at whoever caused her anguish...I would kill for Su if she wanted me to, but she is too kind to ask that sort of thing from anyone

hi-ya!

>>13292677
Enlightened stance.

I'd need to do a background check on Moa's hypothetical girlfriend. As long as it was someone I could approve of, I would quickly come to terms with it. I don't even demand much, just someone who would treat her well and make her happy.

;_;

>>13292768
Most likely Yui

>>13292799
What if moa wants the girl role?

>implying they aren't already having sex
>implying every swinging dick in their schools aren't trying to get in their panties everyday

>>13292678
That's lewd.

Thread needs more best girl

>>13292838
Raura could definitely deliver. Yui, not so sure about that. Moa would probably want to switch roles now and then, depending on her mood.

>>13292188
QUALITY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0imue5uHiw

Moa still does not look cute at all. I dont get how so many can like her.
Yui is like literally 10 times cuter.

Hell, even SU is weird with her elefant ears.

Yui should do a solo career.
First singing and j-idol. Later acting in drama and jav. I'd be in heaven.

>>13293034
>actually wanting a Super Lady to defile herself
>doesn't think Moa's dimples are cute
Here's your reply.

>>13293034
tbh i think the people who like moa had a crush on rita repulsa growing up. they look identical.

tbh i'd rather yui not go into jav, it'd be cool if some female who looked like her did though

>>13293070
To be honest, it seems like you have an aversion to the shift key.

>>13293034
>Moa still does not look cute at all

This might be bait but replying anyway, Moa is clearly the cutest Babymetal member .
We all know that Yui ranks third.
Pic related, just look at that cute face anon.

>>13293034
Not only is Moa is beautiful on the outside but she also has an interesting personality and is full of passion.

People see what they see in Yui, and Su, and that's fine. There's no need to try to make your waifu seem better by bringing others down.

>>13293454
>Waifu.
Non of them is my waifu. I am not really into BM to begin with and I have no clue whatsoever about their personalities. I just stated my opinion based on their looks.

Moa is way to many looking. I dont get it, thats all.
Yui is so much cuter with her puffy cheecks and cute eyes.

The fun thing is, usually I'd add to that: 'well, its just taste, anon' and that ultimately right, though yui's appearance is sharing so many similarities with some of the most famous idols/singers of japan you'd guess she is by far the most favourite girl of BM.

>you may compliment me out of the thread now if you wish...

>>13293492
>*manly

>>13293492
If we're gonna play that game, Yui has a fat face, not "puffy cheeks", and she also has an extremely wide jaw.

What's manly about Moa?

moa loves everything about idols, and babymetal is 'supposed' to be fighting against idol influence. i don't think yui cares too much, but i think moa would be happier if she was in a different group.

who could replace moa?
if it had to be somebody i'd say megu

>>13293571
but Moa is usually the only one who looks like she's actually having fun on stage, and Yui has already said that she loves idols.

>>13293571
Funny considering the recent mystery tube video Moa seemed to bemoan the fact she couldn't fully express herself in SG as the president

>>13293659
i didn't mean to imply that moa wasn't happy with babymetal. i just think that she's happy with babymetal because of the idol elements, so it stands to reason that a real idol group would make her even happier.

yui seems to be more content with the metal aspects of babymetal as she puts more effort into acting metal


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np1hmrYUojY

she actually tries to/ is pretty good at screaming, where as moa acts cutesy

su is such a dork, i love how she had to hold back a laugh during her attempt
i feel bad that she didn't get as much praise as the other girls, i hope it didnt hurt her feelings

>>13293805
well yeah, she's bubbly and expressive. she'd have to stifle those traits as president, but they wouldnt interfere with being an idol at all

>>13293837
>yui seems to be more content with the metal aspects of babymetal as she puts more effort into acting metal

???????????????????

>>13293837
Yui is technical. There's nothing really overtly "metal" about her. She just follows the script to a T.

>>13293805
prove it

>>13293861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICVzmZNMs1U

yui seems to be more content with the metal aspects of babymetal as she puts more effort into acting metal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>13293914
yeah i guess i conflated her willingness to act metal to her being comfortable with it.

>>13293927
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2kvp2r_sakura-gakuin-mystery-tube-kikuchi-moa_fun

>>13293930
Her doing a 5-second scream for a radio station isn't much proof of her "acting metal", she's always acting kawaii, on and off stage

>>13293492
>here's why my opinion is worthless
>take my opinion seriously, though

>>13293914
>>13293930
although i conceded there was nothing overtly metal about her as she is very technical and that's a good explanation, it's worth mentioning that her singing is quite tepid whereas her screaming is has more emotion than some actual screamo bands.

>>13293966
my initial statement was about how yui doesn't care too much about the metal influences in babymetal, and my arguments after that were meant to prove that she doesn't mind the metal, not that she herself is metal.

her 5 seconds of screaming weren't meant to show that shes metal, but that she actually screamed, and so was putting forth effort to act metal. acting as in pretending.

>>13293837
Moa4lyfe

None of them really care about the metal side
Yui loves dance, Moa loves the stages and Su loves to sing, just as they used to do in SG or KG.

Happy birthday gangsta-tan

>>13294243
yo

>>13294243
Seems their will be a Night of Spica later today, where do I watch this at?

>>13294322
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/stolabo-tokyo

or just stolabo-tokyo.com

>>13294322
It's in the OP.

This will be a special installment of Night of Spica (in 10.5 hours) for Raura's birthday so don't miss it.

>have never had a dream about any other girl band besides waifu
>don't really have that many dreams of waifu none lately for months
>last night

Had this weird dream where I'm like in a field full of snow and tall trees but it's a clearing. I turn around and Suzuka is standing there just staring at me. She is far enough away where I'd have to walk a few steps to reach her but close enough to see her eyes. No words are spoken from either of us. She is just staring

What the fuck was that about? I wasn't even trying to dream about her either.

>>13294628
It means you're a faggot, Anon.

>>13294628
Let's not.

>>13294648
>PhD in faggotry

>>13294337
10.5 hours of Rau?! Fuck yea. Only thing is I won't understand 98% of it.

>>13294769
That would be nice but it's just the normal program length in 8 hours.

Babymetal video message to Canada

https://youtu.be/dDyntsyOiGY

>>13293966
Are you serious!. That's Moa acting cutesy all the time by giving mug faces on and off stage. I can't stand the forced cute voice.

Yui is fucking natural, no need to act!

>>13294827
Ayaka

>>13294897

I'm going to bring all my fumos and embarrass everyone

I remember when yui used to be referred to as a robot on here for having no soul

>brb my dream is for bm to be in a commercial

I remember when yui used to be referred to as a robot on here for having no soul

>brb my dream is for bm to be in a commercial advertising random products

>>13295007
I remember those days too. Good thing she has personality now.

Moa is literally love.

>>13295018
I prefer natural beauty

>>13295017
Vehemently disagree. LoGiRL only highlighted the fact. The girl needs a script for real life.

>>13295024
It's not a competition.

>>13295042
Her first appearance was a disaster but she got way better with experience.

>>13295046
>natural
>no need to act
Yeah. That look at the end says otherwise.

It's splitting hairs anyway. Who gives a shit? Yui, Moa, Su. They're all great.

>>13295046
Not really. She was more talkative her second appearance but still pretty reserved and the appearance after that she let Moa steal the show and do all the talking. Don't really remember too much after that.

>>13295044
Ok.

>>13295018
I didn't notice it till now but she has a very long face and she looks like she's going to age fast

>>13295177

New Sakura Gakuin merchandise on sale on ASmart. Get 'em while you can.

Night of Spica is on air right now

Babymetal's official twitter is asking us to vote for them here

http://www.kerrang.com/30093/vote-now-for-the-kerrang-awards-2015/

Their video message to Switzerland has been uploaded too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY-4wx8n-Zk

https://www.asmart.jp/Form/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?shop=0&cat=100131&swrd=&pid=10008456&vid=

>>13295843
literally bought

>>13295843
Please kill me already.

>>13295892
Why are you buying the vinyl album? You do realize that since the album was mastered for a CD, you're just going to have an inferior recording with a lot of the bottom end and some of the top end cut out, right?

>>13295892
Forgot to say that Babymetal will be rereleasing their album in EU and NA with two bonus tracks.

http://en.babymetal.jp/news/0/14626/

>>13295897
Gotta catch them all mentality I guess. And my first vinyl record may as well be BM, because why not.

I know that mastering is an issue, but I'll keep hoping until the end that they'll actually re-master it for vinyl. They will have had like 4 months from the announcement until the actual release, so plenty of time to do that.

>>13295898
Will be getting that too. Fuck my life.

>>13295898
bonus tracks as in new songs?

>>13295914
RoR and Bubble Dreamer

>>13295905
Even if they remaster it for the vinyl, they still have to chop off a fair amount of the sound frequencies since vinyl has limited space

Birthday Girl AKA Panda Thug

>>13295922
>have to chop off a fair amount of the sound frequencies since vinyl has limited space
As I said I don't into vinyls, but I don't think that's how it works?

And it's a double-LP too, so at what I think are the standard, non-crippled settings they have a total of 90 minutes to work with, so plenty enough.

>>13295951
vinyl has high and low frequency limits

Fuck it, just have to have it.
Japanese sure now h2capitalize.

Fuck it, just have to have it.
Japanese sure know how to capitalize.

>>13294628

su seems to stare intensely into the camera a lot, so perhaps that influenced her actions in your dream.

i'm very impressionable, so having read everybody having dreams of babymetal has made me have dreams with them too.

i had a dream last night where yui was stuck in a swamp, so i trudged though the chest deep, alligator infested waters with her on my shoulders.

>>13295963
Ok, I dug up some information about it and you're right. I thought the only two variables were the diameter and RPM, but I guess groove density is variable too, which is the factor limiting the frequencies?

It's hard to find good technical info on vinyl records, most results are either CD vs Vinyl flamewars or the retarded audiophile bullshit. But this site answered most of my questions:

http://www.saemastering.com/VinylMasteringFAQs.php

From that and some other pages I read it seems to be impossible to just casually dump your digital master onto a vinyl record like you do on a CD, but a lot more work has to go into it. So I hope that they won't half-ass it, with all the big-name producers they brag about in the 2014 Apocalypse and what not.

>>13295920
>>13295914
Actually RoR and Gimme Choco from Brixton:

http://www.ear-music.net/en/news/details/babymetal-release-their-self-titled-debut-album-in-europe-may-29th-on-earmusic/

Kinda disappoint, even though it will be nice to have RoR physical. I also wish they had a BluRay version of the music video disc, it's fucking 2015 and DVDs should have been constitutionally outlawed for the last 5 years at least.

>>13296167
god dammit i just want baba dorimeru already!!

Prime Minister Abe

>>13295922
>>13296113
Just did some maths based on CD track lengths and this is what we'll get on the vinyl:

Side 1: 13:50
Side 2: 15:39
Side 3: 11:22
Side 4: 13:45

Considering 45 minutes is the standard run length of a 12" LP - this shouldn't be too bad?

>>13296171
Who doesn't.

>>13295988

How do I buy from Asmart? Do I need to make a tenso account before I add it to my cart?

>>13296217

When was this?

>>13296226
Yes, you'll need a Tenso account/address first, as they ask you for your Tenso identifier at checkout.

I don't remember how long it takes to get one, it's been a while since I created mine. I know there's been some fuckery with having to provide them a passport and proof of address, but perhaps this was only if you want to ship somewhere else than your Paypal billing address.

Once you have your Tenso ID (TS-number, like TS123456) you can order away.

If you don't have Paypal or prefer to pay with credit card you can still order to Tenso, you'll just need to go through the Japanese checkout page and fill the Tenso address for shipping manually.

I did that once and it made me nervous, since there was no confirmation at all that my credit card was verified and accepted. But it worked fine in the end.

>>13296226
Pretty much what >>13296255 said except you only need to provide proof of identity, birth date and address so you can use your driver's license instead of a passport or any other sensitive document. Student and health cards work for the former and utility bills work for the latter too.

Tenso has guides for everything in English so check them out.

>>13295892
Why do they even make the fucking photobook the one-exclusive? fuck this shit

>>13296693
It's called marketing.
Why sell a photobook, when you can sell a photobook and a fanclub membership at the same time.

>>13296693
Agreed. I'm not buying anything from them anymore. Even with a membership it's limited. Get the fuck out of here.

改善!

What have you done today to improve for your waifu? Just got home from the gym and about to go do my moonspeak/rune reps before falling asleep to her singing quietly from my ipod dock.

>>13296747
but they could sell more if they didn't make it limited. and even if i got a membership now, it would probably be sold out before it arrived, and i don't know if there will be anything else i'll want

Anybody thinks Moa's talent has been wasted in Amuse?
Her sexiness and charms are wasting with Amuse type of Idol groups.

IMO, if she is in 48/46 groups, H!P her fame would have been skyrocketed.

Babymetal message to Austria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Iz4WIPHrc

>>13299694
No

>>13294648
>>13294688
Who are you faggots. fuck off nigga like your convo about burgers is any better.

>>13299694

She appears sexy and charming in SG because she is the only one doing it. In 48-groups she would not stick out like that and therefore wouldn't be noticed as easilly.

>>13299694
AKB are for inexperienced girls. Girls audition for AKB, get accepted and get signed by an agency. Praying that a high end agency like Horipro will sign them.

Amuse on the other hand, only sign experienced girls and place them into SG. There's a reason why most Ciao winners chose Amuse as their agency.

Amuse is not an idol agency. It's a highly respected talent agency with some of the biggest names in Japan under their care.

You want a future in the industry, join Amuse. So far, every single SG graduates are having a career of their choice.

AKB has 124 members, not including sister groups which will bring that number closer to 400 members. The number of graduates that are having a decent career and the few senbatsu regulars. The rest just simply vanished.

>>13300876

>>You want a future in the industry, join Amuse. So far, every single SG graduates are having a career of their choice.

But her heart is in Idols. In some radio interview she said, "she thinks about Idols more than anything". When I saw the interview I felt strange. But after watching "Amachan"(Yui's favorite actress Nounen Rena drama. It's about Idols.), my perspective towards Idols changed. And I can understand Moa's words better.

IMO, it is better to work where your heart is in the first place.

>>13300690

Even if she wouldn't be noticed easily, she will be more famous than now at SG/BABYMETAL.

>>13301296
Moa's image of an idol is from Kirarin Revolution. It's more of H!P than AKB. Frankly, H!P is way more professional than the AKB franchise.

And as expected, Moa's favourite idols are all from H!P.

>>13301321
Nah. Too much competition.

>>13301484

>>And as expected, Moa's favourite idols are all from H!P.

I know about this. I also said about H!P also in my last statement not particularly AKB. >>13299694

My point is she will be more happy and popular, if she is any good idol group.

I gave Nocchi of Perfume fame BABYMETAL's first album at a meet and greet when she said she had never listened to them (I was planning on giving it to another member) and she reported in an interview that since that World Tour where I met her, that she has been listening to them nonstop!

>>13299718
オーストリアはヘビーメタルが「今回、イタリアなしのする」と思っていました

>>13293454
Am I seeing things or does Su deftly retaliate by flicking Moa's inner thigh?

>>13301728
Kitsune-sama would be proud.

>>13293454
>There's no need to try to make your waifu seem better by bringing others down.

This is how every idol group works.

>>13301728
It'll be interesting to see how they take being outshined.

>>13301827
i don't think they'll really mind since they're getting ready to retire within the next couple of years

>>13299694
>>13300254
^What he said

She's not even 16 and has already sold out some of the biggest arenas in Japan as part of babymetal as well as touring all over the world & opening for Lady Gaga, something that 48/46 groups have never done and likely never will as they're over-saturating the market.

>>13301728
Perfume are huge babymetal fans now. They can't stop talking about them. At the end of the day, our girls are Perfume's junior in Amuse and the group was conceived based off Perfume anyway. Koba wanted to start a group for Su, got the idea from Perfume that they found success by mixing idol with electronic music, so he went with idol and metal.

>>13302237

She or BABYMETAL is not that popular in Japan as you have imagined. I think they never reach those 48/46 groups in Japan.

>She don't give a fuck about of outside Japan!

Are they screwed now by Sony?
Or you think Amuse protected them well?

>>13302347
As a group, not even, as an INDUSTRY the whole 48/46 thing is huge for sure, arguably the biggest thing in Japan and is sprawled all over Asia.

However, as individual members, they are completely replaceable and totally faceless, there are literally hundreds of them in AKB48 alone. They're like KFC franchises that are across the street from each other, the main company is getting all the money and recognition but individually they're wasting away.

Plus, I don't have to imagine anything, they sold out back-to-back shows at the budokan, and at the saitama super arena. That's not nothing.

>>13302356
Amuse is a veteran talent agency that wont be signing Babymetal into a premature destined-to-fail deal with Sony unlike UTT

>>13302347
They are growing in their homeland at an accelerated rate anon, you have old news.

I think some of you are gonna have to get over the fact that they are not an idol group anymore. It's Koba's group and he said it himself. He only used it as a means to popularize the group(and because they came from an idol group) and now that he has achieved that he legitimized them as a real metal band. He probably cut the idol shit out not only for his sake, but the girls' sake.

>>13302552
If that is the case then metalheads like you should migrate to /mu/ where other metalheads are while idol fans take it easy in /jp/

>>13302566
/jp/ isn't an idol board, it's otaku culture, metal is very much a part of otaku culture.

>>13302552
>he legitimized them as a real metal band

They still have that idol (or at least j-pop) element though, thankfully. I wouldn't want them to go full-metal just like I wouldn't want them to go full-idol

>>13302566
I don't see why you guys get so defensive over this. Facts are facts. Now that doesn't mean the girls themselves aren't idols(although Su is above that term), but the band isn't. It's like Kid Rock. You can still consider him a rapper but can you consider his current music rap? No.

>>13302590
I always knew you were new to 4chan and /jp/ so let me explain to you how this board works. Instead of boring you with an explanation I'll just quote from 4chan.org/rules/

>All images and discussion should pertain to light and visual novels, figures and other otaku paraphernalia, Touhou Project, Vocaloid, doujin works and music, and diverse niche Japanese interests (kigurumi, idols, mahjong, tea).

>>13302552
>>13302599
>they are not an idol group anymore
>that doesn't mean the girls themselves are idols
Make up your mind.

>>13302608
Yes, ignore the rest of that post. I explained it.

>>13302552
they could never be a legitimate metal band. the kami band isn't even officially part of the group, and the music is written by all kinds of other people. also, as long as the girls dance they are idols and not a metal band. and the japanese fans are still mostly idol-fans anyway.

>>13302608
>and music

Which is what Japanese metal is.

>>13302552
They are an idol metal band. Whats so hard to accept about that lol.

>>13302646
Dancing doesn't equal idol. That can be considered J-pop, but it doesn't automatically mean idol.

>>13302652
Tell me one thing they do that's idol these days.

>>13302552
>he legitimized them as a real metal band. He probably cut the idol shit out

Then why is their newest song about bubble gum with these type of lyrics?

Ah, yeah. Tondeke, chew, chew, chewing gum! [Oh, yeah.]

Plus the overwhelming majority of their fans are idol fans.

>>13302617
It's idol music with a well done heavy metal flavor.

Babymetal are three teenage girls singing pop songs and doing cute dances to the tune of metal music.

>>13302647
>dojin works and music
Metal music != dojin music

>>13302655
Straight from Wikipedia:

>In Japanese pop culture, an idol (アイドル aidoru?, a Japanese rendering of the English word "idol") is a young manufactured star/starlet who is promoted as being particularly cute. Idols are intended to be role models everyone adores. They must have a perfect public image and be good examples to young people. Idols aim to play a wide range of roles as media personalities (tarento), e.g. pop singers, panelists of variety programs, bit-part actors, models for magazines and advertisements.

>>13302657
You guys are confusing J-pop with idol. Idol isn't music, it's a way of acting and doing certain things.

>>13302663
More from Wikipedia for those of you who like making statements about a subject you don't know anything about:

>Most idol singers work across genres of Japanese pop music, usually in the genre that is most popular at the moment,[10] but since idols usually sing cute sentimental songs,[11] one can say that idols themselves form a sort of music genre of their own.

>>13302662
Yep, that's how they started. Koba isn't trying to advertise their cuteness these days. There is a huge difference in how they are presented today from when they started. Say what you will but Koba said it himself, and it is his group.

>>13302646
>the kami band isn't even officially part of the group

They're not NOT part of the group, they're hiding backstage and playing behind curtains or anything like that, they even have their own solo songs.

> and the music is written by all kinds of other people

Sure, and? They're nearly all written by people who are thoroughly involved in the metal/punk/rock/alternative scene of Japan.

>as long as the girls dance they are idols and not a metal band

Dancing doesn't negate a music style, nor does simply dancing make them idols.

>and the japanese fans are still mostly idol-fans anyway.

That's probably true, but outside of Japan (and Asia) their fanbase is mostly metalheads.

>>13302685
>>>/mu/

>>13302655
What do you think idols are?

Also heres something to lighten up your day.

Totally not an idol group coming through

>>13302666
>>13302663

Exactly. And the whole Babymetal image, as it is now, is hardly the whole TEEHEE AM I KAWAII SENPAI~~ thing that is universal across all idols - that was true a number of years ago but not anymore.

>>13302711
>And the whole Babymetal image, as it is now, is hardly the whole TEEHEE AM I KAWAII SENPAI~~ thing that is universal across all idols - that was true a number of years ago but not anymore.

The image in the OP was posted on their official instagram 6 days ago.

>>13302711
>>13302722
Here's one from January of this year

>>13302696
Forgot to post the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yYBkJE0U1s

Oh damn, images of them posing invalidates everything I said. Shit. Never mind the fact the creator of the group himself said they shouldn't be considered idols anymore. Keep ignoring that though. Your opinion definitely holds more weight.

Looking at Bubble Dreamer choreography from the phone recordings, it looks pretty cute.

I trust Koba.

>>13302722
Sure they're not smeared in blood and holding up a severed goat's head like some kvlt Norwegian black metal band, but they're not having a pillow fight next to a basket of puppies either.

They're just doing the Fox sign towards the camera.

They're trying to be totally grim and kvlt and totally angry like your average metal band, but they're not trying to be KAWAII UGUU~.

They ARE cute even when they're not trying to be, but that's just who they are.

The modern Babymetal image itself, however, isn't idol material. Spikes and studs or dressing up like some sort of neo-goth wouldn't really be acceptable on your average jr. high school girl, outside of Halloween or cosplay events.

Part of being an idol is having an acceptable image, something that Babymetal doesn't have for day-to-day life.

>>13302745
>And the whole Babymetal image, as it is now, is hardly the whole TEEHEE AM I KAWAII SENPAI~~ thing that is universal across all idols - that was true a number of years ago but not anymore.

Recent photos of them of idols being idols invalidate your statement. Koba can say whatever the fuck he wants for popularity but that doesn't change the fact that Babymetal is an idol group backed by almost exclusively idol fans dancing idol choreography while singing idol songs with metal instrumentals while maintaining their idol image.

Just go full anon already and cut this samefag bullshit.

>>13302724
See:
>>13302757

The fact that they're smiling or making a silly face doesn't negate the fact that they're the Japanese equivalent of Marilyn Manson in 1999, in terms of appearance.

>>13302761
>idol songs

The waning moon has lit up
the insanity rampant in the shade.
The laughter resounds around.
It bares its fangs and its eyes gleam.
I can't escape from it.

It flickers slowly
appearing and disappearing in my mind.
A nightmare rondo is being repeated.
The awakening light
is gone far away out of my sight.
I can do nothing but run
through the darkness.

In the woods, in the fountain,
I hide myself holding my breath,
but it's still coming closer to me.
A stagnant voice. An endless night.
Ah...

If I can no longer get out of here,
won't you show me your figure?

It flickers slowly
appearing and disappearing in my mind.
A nightmare rondo is being repeated.
The awakening light
is gone far away out of my sight.
I can do nothing but fall
into the darkness.

>>13302761
And I could post photos of Su getting crucified with fire blaring everywhere. Such idol....

Pictures don't mean anything. They don't have blogs. They don't do variety shows. Hell, you don't hear shit from Su except for every few months and when you do, it's barely anything. Idols are supposed to constantly give you new content. Even their interviews became extremely subdued. Here's the biggest thing. They don't fake their voices and try to make it super high pitched. And no, some random guy on the internet's opinion means nothing when it comes to the guy who created and runs the group. Shit, even when they started as an idol group, it was conceived as them going to war with idols because the world got overran with them and BM's purpose was to bring idol fans to metal.

>>13302797
I also wanted to link the studio version from youtube, but looks like Sony Music went on a copyright rampage

>>13302552
>He probably cut the idol shit out not only for his sake
The only way to do this is to cut the girls from the group, Moa and Yui at least. And change the name, and forget the old songs and anything related to idol/jpop.

Have my reply

I get what you're saying, but it's not really either-or. One can argue they've moved a bit more to the serious side.

Even AKB had a song about suicide and other serious shit. That was back in the day I thought they were pretty good though. :3

>>13302801
>>13302805
I was writing a comprehensive post but decided to delete it all. Since you have come to the conclusion that Babymetal isn't an idol group please go make a thread on >>>/mu/ where you can discuss metal music with other metalheads. /jp/ is for doujin and idol music only.

>>13302819
Obviously not since BM threads are allowed here lol

>>13302805
>>13302801
>>13302825
>>>/mu/55009269
/mu/ has a Metal General thread just for you

Those opinions are biased, go and make a BM thread in mu to see others anon opinion.

reminder that /mu/ and /hr/ holds eternal kpoppp generals

You guys can keep telling us to go to /mu/ but this is where the BM general is, and is where we'd be directed to. I have nothing against idols, I am a fan of SG and they helped me appreciate BM even more. No need to try kicking us out because we agree with Koba's view of the group. What, would you tell him to leave if he posted here? Lol

>>13302815
You have no idea what idols are, this is coming from someone whose first idol group was Sakura Gakuin last year.

Girls in a metal band does not make them idols, the name "babymetal" does not make them idols, their older songs does not make them idols. They came from an idol group, but that's it. They have elements of j-pop in their sound for sure 100%, but j-pop isn't "idol" by default.

>>13302801
Exactly, all of this. Being an idol is as much about managing and presenting your image in the social & mass media and turning the kawaii up to 1000% at all times & still acting like 13 year olds when you're in your mid 20s - as it is about dancing on stage and lip-synching.

>>13302832
God bless
>>13302853
I'm asking for more opinions.
>>13302854
Why are you replying to yourself

>>13302819
>jp/ is for doujin and idol music only.

No it's not.

>>13266735

>>13302851
God bless
>>13302853
I'm asking for more opinions.
>>13302854
Why are you replying to yourself

>>13302874
Opinions of people who most likely aren't fans vs the creator of the group? Most people don't even consider them "real" metal. Does that make it true? Funny thing is I bet you're the type of person who doesn't even take the masses(normies) opinion seriously.

Anyone arguing that BABYMETAL is not an idol group is a delusional faggot and this most likely their first time getting into "whacky" Japanese music

>see, this is the regular BabyMetal, so idol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgVsYkHIRjc

>>13302894
Nigga I can say my post are a masterpiece novel and that don't make it real, specially if im trying to make money of it.

>>13302913
The point is, his opinion holds more weight than anybody else's seeing as how he created it and runs the ship. I don't see how it's in any way beneficial to say they aren't an idol group when the Asian fan base(where most of their money comes from) are primarily idol fans.

>>13302913
>that don't make it real

They sing for real, and the band plays for real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HRHVN99Ko8

Back when they used to have the fake Babybones band and used to lipsynch most of the time, sure they were still an idol group, but times change.

>>13302883
Nope. Moafag isn't samefagging, you guys know who is the other anon. Ignore these tumors.

So anyone watched night of spics? What did I lost?

>kawaii desney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCHTmKhgb9k

>>13302935
lmao they still are an idol group, momoclo sings live too. this really is your first time getting involved with idol music, isnt it

>>13302685
i say this as someone who has been a metal fan before. i wouldn't take them serious as a metal band. and i've never come across a metal band who don't write their songs themselves.
>>13302801
this i have to admit.while their image certainly still is cute (they couldn't be not-cute if they tried) and they still maintain the idol aspect in their music and Performance, they sadly seem to have cut most of the other aspects of idol. i guess if they don't bring back any of that back now that they're out of sg i might stop caring about them so much, since i'm not so much a fan of babymetal as of yui these days.

>>13303015

Thank

God

>>13303015
This is what I was getting at. They still share some idol elements but Koba clearly has been moving away from it more and more, starting with the Kami band. I don't think he likes all the "not real metal" criticisms and such. I kind of wish they still retained SOME idol elements. I'd love for them to do LoGiRL and just be unscripted, be their real selves. That's "metal", isn't it? But yea, I actually think he's too commited to the image and that's why we barely see anything from them anymore and they almost come off as robots in interviews.

>>13303038

>>13302961
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6XWpzcyejAKQpaHC0N

>>13303007
>momoclo sings live too

They also sing with a live metal band?

>>13303015

>and i've never come across a metal band who don't write their songs themselves.

They're the exception, before Babymetal I had also never see a metal band that was fronted by 3 young teen girls.

and of course, they didn't START as a metal band.

They're really more like a supergroup like Asesino or Murderdolls or Teenage Time Killers that often switch out touring members and have tons of people in the studio.

The only difference is that one who's behind it all isn't actually in the band.

babymetal isn't prototypical metal or aidoru music. they are 100% pop music though, so that pushes them away from metal.

who can we all agree that babymetal is more metal than? i'll start with some easy ones. babymetal is more metal than brokencyde, 30h3 and blood on the dance floor.

>>13303306
babymetal is more metal than any other band on this pic

>>13303306
>they are 100% pop music

10/10 bait

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNHujktWNuU

>who can we all agree that babymetal is more metal than?

Well, they're actually heavier than 2015 Slipknot and most of the bands that share the stage with them at metal festivals.

>>13303319
Dillinger Escape Plan is legit.

Is that the Ohio festival? So much dad rock

>>13303319
>tfw know people who still listen to techn9ne
*dies of kowaii overdose

There are tons of idol groups embracing alternative music genres and aesthetics right now, some of them going much further in their deviation from typical idol norms than BABYMETAL does, just saying.

I didn't read the thread for a day and what the fuck are you people rambling on about?...

>>13303409
Whether Babymetal is metal or not, and if they're an idol group or not.

>>13303405
Not really, no. Stuff like Fruitpochette and PASSCODE are still playing it safe, musically. It's more electro-pop-rock than actual metal.

>>13303405
It's beyond the music, it's the way they act. Funny thing is though, I think they act more like their real selves in SG and early BM than current BM.

>>13303319
>Unlocking The Truth

>>13303405
pop music originally started out as country/ blues. perhaps we are witnessing the evolution of idol music

>>13303444
they are both under sony now (but utt wont be anymore soon)

>>13303449
What if it's metal that's evolving, into kawaii metal?

>>13303462
well, there is more kawaii metal than there ever has been before

>>13303449
>>13303462
Metal music also came from blues, and metal has been constantly branching out into other subgenres since the original Heavy Metal from the 70s, it really is a new step in the evolution of music

>>13303429
BiS had stuff that was more "pure" metal than Babymetal ("IDOL" "Idol is dead") and Stupig was straight up gabber techno. new Idol order did metal with growling vocals, while BM still retains pretty idol-y vocals. You'll Melt More does complex New Wave and Krautrock tribute songs. Bellring Girls is also everything but conventional idol pop.

Clearly, BM is still an idol group, as long as these past and present groups are considered idols (what they are, generally, except maybe BiS, which a part of idol fandom always rejected).

>>13303444
>tfw black
>tfw can tell Moa is into black guys
>tfw might not even have a chance because of all the time she spends with UTT

hold me bros

>>13303570
But they all just danced on stage to pre-recorded tracks. A huge part of what separate an idol GROUP from a metal BAND is the actual band, or lack thereof.

>>13303570
Is music a factor in what can be considered idol? As far as I know, music doesn't play a part. The fact that those groups you named sound so wildly different than AKB further proves that music doesn't really apply to the label.

>>13303613
>tfw black

>>13303637
um no, you act as if idol groups have never held a performance without a live backing band before. you, sire, are a massive retard. jesus, even Moritaka Chisato (an 80s idol) performed with a live band from time to time during her run as an idol. I guess she wasn't an idol when she had a backing band on those occassions?

>>13303637
um no, you act as if idol groups have never held a performance with a live backing band before. you, sire, are a massive retard. jesus, even Moritaka Chisato (an 80s idol) performed with a live band during her run as an idol. I guess she wasn't an idol when she had a backing band on those occassions?

>>13303716
you're talking to a guy who's first idol group was sg, and that was only through babymetal

>>13303716
That's true. Ayami has a live backing band but she is definitely an idol. That's why off stage has more to do with being an idol than on stage.

>>13303637
> A huge part of what separate an idol GROUP from a metal BAND is the actual band, or lack thereof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOgRTInC7uo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecLs7eg0AVk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5KRFbfYj8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rukQPyZrV8w

Besides, Momoclo had a band for their live shows last time I checked.

The addition of a live band doesn't change the fact that the center of this group are 3 girls with very little creative input into the actual project. It's idol music, which isn't a bad thing, since, quite frankly, I couldn't care less about the origins of the music as long as it's good music.

>>13303638
It was mentioned earlier, idols traditionally take the sound of their era. Now it's become more like a banquet of different music styles.

BABYMETAL is no different, grabbing influences from different places with each song. As a "band" they would have no consistent sound.

>>13303790
The thing is though, that you don't even have to be in the music industry to be considered an idol, right?

Personally I think the only thing idol about them now is the manufactured bit and the dancing. Two very idol things but I don't think they act like idols anymore. Which makes them kind of boring off stage now.

>>13303816
>Yuika san told Raura what she and Ayami used to do to Su back in the Karen days

>>13303820
Honestly I don't care too much, going to too much splitting hairs here. They don't have the off-stage idol repertoire, that's true. I'm not even sure what they should be doing.

>>13303716
>>13303723
>>13303733

I said that was part of it, yes. The overwhelming majority of idols don't have a band, and IF they do, they're tucked off in a corner out of sight and they certainly don't have their bands bust out guitar/drum/bass solos

>Besides, Momoclo had a band for their live shows last time I checked.

If they do, it's very well hidden here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFlhgWJdaxg

and there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KonhdMW1L0

But like I've said before, that's part of it. It's more importantly the whole squeaky-clean innocent & kawaii image that they have manufactured for them and it's also whether or not they associate with being part of the idol scene, which they don't.

Kobametal said himself that he doesn't want to be part of the idol scene, and they're not sharing stages with Sakura Gakuin or any other idol group.

Their music is part j-pop of course, but there's virtually nothing "idol" about them anymore

>>13303865
done with this troll. i hope its a troll, but it sounds like most of the retarded american babymetal fanbase that ive come across lmao.
>i need to somehow legitimize my music tastes
>i cant accept that i like a manufactured idol group
>muh street cred

>>13303865
>>>/mu/

>>13303874
>they sing and dance, so they MUST be idols!

Yeah, I forgot that some the oldest forms of art are exclusive only to japanese idol groups

Reminder that moaster is the only remaining cancer left in these threads

>>13303882
he sticks out like a sore thumb, i dont know why he stays here

>>13303859
I think Koba should just let them be themselves. I think he's too dedicated to the image and too worried about them saying something "wrong" that will give fuel to metal elitists. That's exactly why "Only the Fox God knows" became a thing. Fans seem to be amused by it, but it's pretty annoying to me at this point. Trying to make them come across more metal and then supressing their personality is contradictory. And even the way they act now in uniform, being overly polite and reserved, isn't metal anyway. But people just eat up everything they do, like the recent concert videos. I on the other hand find them hard to watch because they just come off so unnatural now whereas before they were loose and free.

>>13303886
I enjoy him posting without his name as if its hard to not recognize his posts

>>13303891
>And even the way they act now in uniform, being overly polite and reserved, isn't metal anyway.

Actually practically the majority of people in metal bands are extremely polite, proper and reserved when they're not on stage.

People will criticise Babymetal for having a "manufactured" image, but virtually all metal bands act out characters when they're on stage. Very few metal musicians drink goat's blood smoothies for breakfast and sleep in a coffin or whatever.

>>13303901
>>13303886
>>13303882

you sure do also enjoy talking about him

>>13303914
Yea, I know that, but the fact is they acted much different early on than they do now. I'd attribute that to age, but Yui and Moa still act like they have personality in SG. Maybe intimidation of coming to the west? They just don't seem comfortable and at first, they seemed extremely comfortable. We will never see them do another interview like hotwave.

>>13303937
imposter.jp, is that you? I have a few surprise gifts for you!

>>13303940
There is a strange stiffness. And we have seen the girls having plenty of fun (Singapore etc) with BABYMETAL, off stage. I hope KOBA thinks about this carefully.

>>13303949
it's not him, i'm curious about your gifts, i hope we didn't get him the same thing

>>13303940
>but Yui and Moa still act like they have personality in SG.

Yui seemed like she was becoming more reserved both in SG and Babymetal while Moa actually said in the tube-thing for SG that she felt like she couldn't really express herself while she was the leader of Sakura Gakuin

>We will never see them do another interview like hotwave.

and the LoGirl program especially, I'd much rather see a format like that where it's Su, Yui & Moa goofing off and having fun rather than reading cue cards off-camera while standing in front of a white background

>>13303958
You're right, he should be sleeping right now. Then the gifts will be for you. Who is your second top girl from Babymetal?

>>13303970
Moa

>>13303970
yui of course

>>13303975
>>13303976
I don't like this so you two get neither.

Let's have a Babymetal pop quiz! No cheating (google search) allowed.

Question 1: This member's favorite dish is omelette rice.

>>13303992
BOH

>>13303999
Wrong. Hint: all answers are one of these 3

yui of course

>>13303956
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed. I honestly can't watch any of their new videos in the past year. It just comes off so unnatural and awkward to me. I keep coming back to the old stuff.

>>13303963
Yea Yui has become a bit shy but you can tell she is still being herself. Shirome would have NEVER flied if it was a BM interview. What Moa said surprised me but she was more complaining about having to act more mature when she loves to goof around. She still got to be herself, just more grown up.

What sucks is I think Koba is keeping Su from doing anything outside of her Su-metal character. I feel like he wouldn't even allow her to hang out with Ayami on LoGiRL or Night of Spica as herself.

>>13304005
One point for you.

Question 2: Which member described herself as a "dandelion" when told to use only one word?

>>13304014
su

>>13304019
Wrong.

From now on I will only respond to correct answers (there can be more than one)

>>13304014
tfw no android gf

Moa?

>>13304043
Correct.

Question 3: Which member of Babymetal is known for always eating fatty foods?

>>13304052

>>13304026
i looked up the answers after, so i'll default on the information i just read about

>aria grande isn't yui's favourite foreign artist anymore
>moa's favourite colour is white

>>13304052
moa

>>13304058
Since when? Who is her favorite foreign artist now?

>>13304058
Correct and good to know. Who's her new favorite foreign artist? Source?
>>13304056
Also correct but sorry I have no OC Ayami

Question 4: Which member is known to be a klutz?

>>13304065
I know the answer is Su but I think Yui is too, or maybe more of a ditz.

>>13304065
su has been called an airhead but i heard yui was the actual one

>>13304074
>>13304086
Correct. Su is the klutz, Yui is the airhead. Moa is the otaku.

Question 5: This song means "Operation: Beg Daddy For It" in English. What is it called in Japanese?

>>13304098
Onedari Daisakusen. Too easy peezy.

>>13304111
Correct.

Question 6: This member is known for hopping around like a bunny.

>>13304063
>>13304065
http://www.entamenext.com/topics_detail2/id=717

19 is who is your favourite artist, she says "this is from a long time ago but... aria grande" that past tense qualifier implies it doesnt hold true anymore.

>>13304121
yui

>>13304130
Correct. Can't her answer be interpreted as "my favorite artist since a long time ago is Ariana Grande"?

Question 7: In which concert did the statue of the Virgin Mary get destroyed?

>>13304130
Huh? I don't get why you interpreted it that way. She even goes on to say her two favorite shows are Victorious and Sam and Cat, two shows that feature AG. And one of her diaries which wasn't too long ago only reaffirmed how big a fan of hers she is.

>>13304145
>>13304153
budokan?

> The friend is --like Yui--a huge fan of Ariana Grande-san, and we have made a promise to go abroad to a concert of Ariana Grande-san some time Yui dreams of seeing Ariana Grande-san and have a talk.

yeah i think you guys are right, also i think i misinterpreted what the ですけど was for

>>13304145
Legend Z

>>13304145
Legend 1997

>>13304194
Correct.

Question 8: This member is often known as the "Worst Girl"

>>13304199
kobametal

>>13304197
Correct.

>>13304184
In Budokan they went up the alien spaceship.

>>13304194
Legend Z had no fancy outro.

Babymetal in full hijab. Harem or haram?

Question 8: >>13304199

>>13304204
Correct. Pic of Su because Koba isn't kawaii enough for this thread.

Question 9: This girl is from the same prefecture as Sugimoto Mariri

>>13304214
Su-san

>>13304232
Correct.

Question 10: Who is a better dancer, Yui or Moa?
Who has cuter cheeks, Yui or Moa?
Who is whiter, Yui or Moa?
Who is smarter, Yui or Moa?
Who is taller, Yui or Moa?

>>13304232
Correct.

Question 10: >>13304240

>>13304240
Yui, tie, Yui, Moa, Yui

>>13304244
yui of course

>>13304240
>Who is a better dancer, Yui or Moa?

Moa

>Who has cuter cheeks, Yui or Moa?

Moa

>Who is whiter, Yui or Moa?

Yui

>Who is smarter, Yui or Moa?

Moa

>Who is taller, Yui or Moa?

Yui

>>13304244
when was that picture taken?

>>13304248
5/5

>>13304251
3/5

I'm getting impatient so I'll dump the rest.

>>13304255
I don't know but they're from the Legends of the Trinity photo book.

I didn't take pictures of every page but eventually I'll scan all of them.

>>13304250
Correct.

Question 11: What's the Krusty Krab's secret formula?

>>13304274
Not so fast Plankton!

>>13304274
Lol that gif cracks me up so much. Yui looks really into him.

That's all for now. Have a good night /jp/.

>>13304287
ty~

>>13304268
>Legends of Trinity photo book

Wat. I never even heard of that. What is it and when was it released?

>>13304295
http://www.asmart.jp/Form/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?shop=0&cat=100131&swrd=&pid=10006875&vid=

>>13304287
おやすみなさい

>>13304283
>staring intently, body facing him, mouth open and smiling

she could just be trying to be really engaging without realizing how much it looks like presentation

reminds me of this

>>13304408
That girl looks more star struck. Yui has a smile on her face and stares at him as if she wants to push him against a wall and violate him. The way imposter described it was hilarious. He said something like

>tfw Yui will never stare you down while making lewd greentext fantasies of you in her head

>>13304448
Not forgetting the fact that Yui loves RoR and english. Meeting Sam must have taken her breath away.

Everyone wish her a happy birthday

>>13306639
Tanjoubi omedetou.

Namae shirimasen. （￣□￣；）

THIS IS BABYMETAL

>>13307033
THIS IS ART ATTACK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFqCl_GvHe0

Bump

Any Mexican here that is planing in going to the concert?

>>13308403
Ningún puto me quiere acompañar y no pienso meterme en solitario a lo que parece será un hervidero de otakus como habitualmente lo son las convenciones de anime o como lo fue la première de la película de Madoka.

>>13308430
Mi madre me va a acompañar (por favor no te burles) así que por esa parte no tengo problema y yo creo que van más pedos que otaku, por lo menos son mas limpios.

>>13308436
Bien, no preguntaré edades.
Si consigo a cualquier bulto que me acompañe ( no el viaje sino todo el concierto en sí) y aun existen boletos, pues ahí estaré, estoy a solo 300km del Circo

>>13308452
>Bien, no preguntaré edades.
G-gracias, es vergonzoso pero no tengo a nadie ya que soy hikikomori ;_;
>estoy a solo 300km del Circo
Eso es bastante lejos. Supongo que vives en un estado como Querétaro. Te deseo suerte en contrar a alguien quien te pueda acompañar, yo ya aparté boletos en preferente, no creo que se acaben pronto ya que jamás he escuchado a algún mexicano hablar de BABYMETAL.

>>13308459
No se habian agotado ya?

>>13308436
>este putito

>>13308403
Got my ticket as soon as I saw the youtube video.
>Going alone like a pro.
>The place is relatively small so paying 1300 pesos to see them so close it's totally worth it.

>>13308622
¿Dónde compraste los VIP?

>>13308430
>>13308436
>>13308452
>>13308459
>>13308696

Tortillas for everyone!!

>>13308696
Pagina de superboletos, link en el video del anuncio.
>>13308728
Tortilals aren't enough, here have some meat and beans so everyone can eat tacos.

>>13308622
That's really what it took for you? Like you weren't willing to go before but a 20 second scripted video where they personalize for every place they play made you wanna go? I mean I'm glad that it worked cause I want them to sell out everywhere but it's just funny that that's what made you get tickets.

>>13308806
it made me get tickets too. not only was i not going to buy them, but i didn't even really like babymetal. until that video, that is.

simpletons

>>13304262
the pictures were nice, but the real gift was the time we all spent together

>>13308806
Heck yeah! I want to be personally approached.
>I had no idea they were coming until I saw the video, sorry.

>>13309242
That's sweet and all but you're totally right <3

>>13309410
That's okay Mexibro, welcome to the world of Babymetal. Enjoy your stay.

I think someone here might be interested in this

http://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/r126639513

>>13309758
>>13309758
>>13309758

hello.

>>13310154
How has the transition to Megumi going?

>>13310173
She is one of my faves but Idk, she's a bit crazy. Im eagerly waiting for the 4 new lolis.

>>13310191
I'm enthusiastic about the new transfers too. There better be some cuties like YuiMoa.