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Aigis update April 3rd with new event.

Last thread: >>13237960

Lord of Valkyrie links:
>Game link:
http://www.nutaku.net/games/lord-of-valkyrie/play/
>English wiki:
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Lord_of_Valkyrie_Wiki
>Japanese wiki:
http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/
>/jp/ player list:
http://pastebin.com/URgv8JPA
>Grind table by an anon:
http://imgur.com/y90G0cS
Required strength for explorations and their rewards:
>English Wiki:
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Exploration
>Japanese Wiki:
http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c4%b4%ba%ba%c0%ef%c3%c4

Millennium War Aigis links:
>Game link
http://www.nutaku.net/games/millennium-war-aigis/play/
>Newbie guide:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=603000&postcount=3643
>Japanese ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24452
>English ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=26860
>Japanese Wiki #1:
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/
>Japanese Wiki #2:
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/
>English Wiki
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Millennium_War_Aigis_Wiki
>XP chart
http://i.imgur.com/okVV7hJ.png
>Vid anon's channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkAJz5hSVU_zaF0EqLiCKkg
>Info about next event
http://pastebin.com/bmF4Xsuy

Miscellaneous links:
>Staff Twitter:
https://twitter.com/nutakugames

>> No.13263157

Is there any incentive to 3* the dailies more than once? Been getting decent drops in Crystal Keeper N even though I'm barely winning it every time.

>> No.13263160

>>13263157
Not on a principle, however you still gotta try for 100% kill rate in order to not miss the drops.

>> No.13263165

>>13263160
I assume only the eyes drop the crystals? It's only 2 armors that keep getting through.

>> No.13263214

In answer to the question from last thread, Return to Ruins is probably the best farming level for quite some time.

>> No.13263236

>>13263214
token forest has the best exp/time ratio

>> No.13263308

>>13263157
more money, and I'm fairly certain more exp.

>> No.13263310

>>13263165
Yea the drops only come from the eyes. I still like to 3* things if and can and normal is pretty easy. I used this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRzjxzbkg7o and was able to 3* it pretty easily in my 2nd week.

>> No.13263407

>>13263308
The Exp remains the same in 1, 2, or 3 stars, what changes is the money multiplier, 1*= x1, 2*= x1.2, 3*= x1.5

>>13263165
Yeah just the eyes, you can focus on setting ranged units before land because of that, you can let through the first 2 armors even (if you don't really care for 3*ing the map) to maximize your fire power before the eyes kill every unit
that's what i did anyway

>> No.13263500

They just announced better deals on Sacred Crystals starting tomorrow.

Hours after I bought some, of course.

>> No.13263569

>>13262669
Fire shield is also one of the rewards for Lv9 PvP.

>> No.13263588

>>13263569
I'm kinda stalling on the PVP too. I like winning everything with the killstick despite shitty cards, but higher levels would have losses in it. And probably require more clashes per loot.

>> No.13263677

>>13263588
lv9 is giving out lv10 gear, which sells for more. If you have the winstick I would image you wouldnt have too much trouble. But anywho, Its just more reason to push on in main quest.

>> No.13263737

So I just did some maths on expedition cost-effectiveness: UCs beat everyone at power level per cost^2 (which is what expedition prices are determined by). Even Cs were beaten excepting silly things like a 1M cost 3 C. So for the early dungeons, UCs are the best way to farm them.

>> No.13263771
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>>13263737
Even 1M cost 3 C doesn't stand a chance. I present to you our unrivaled queen of efficiency! Over 7400 power for only 5 cost.

>> No.13263804

>>13263771
It's a shame I've somehow lost my tutorial one.

>> No.13263830
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Behold, my fodder farm!

1. Grind quest 1-1/1-4 for Lv1 Cs
2. Put them through one run of dungeon 1-1 to make them Lv2 Cs
3. Eat them: they're now worth 50% more (on-element) EXP for a fraction of Gila investment.

It's about 2k Gila to do this (after discounts) with each team hitting 25k power level. That's cheaper than a single vendortrash drop from these places. As a bonus, I get Lv8 Earth Cs as well.

>>13263804

Dungeon 1-3 will get you more.

>> No.13263925

>>13263830
I'm bad at recognising faces. You've got 3 commons per lower group, right? What are all those other cards?

>> No.13263965

>>13263925
The cute green girl with white hair is Mea, the cute blue one is Hyouka, the cute red one is Pham, the cute brown one is Delta. The other cute green one on bottom right in unit 3 is Miu.

There's also Salas (bottom right in unit 2), and a bunch of those auxilliary commons like cart, waggon, chariot, etc, not sure if he's using those for their skill effect, or just to level them as fodder like the other commons.

>> No.13264095

>>13263965

I can only farm Cart quickly and concluded they're better off as Lv1 C fodder - the loss in 5% discount offsets what they'd gain in EXP.

So those 2~3 auxiliaries are for farming at just over half price. 3 Cs per group and whoever is available to be the UC+ weight lifters. The time reducers have been retired to synchronise the return times.

>> No.13264698

To whoever said Return to Ruins is the best grinding spot before Castle, I disagree. I've been doing it for a bit and I frequently get only 2 drops per run and I have to keep microing my units. Tower Overwatch is only 2 CH more and I often get 4 drops and the only strategy in it is plopping down your units and holding the 2x button.

I'd say Tower Overwatch wins out.

>> No.13264713

New Crystal Prices tomorrow.
Revised Prices:
1 Sacred Crystal – 100 Gold
5 Sacred Crystals – 500 Gold
11 Sacred Crystal – 1000 Gold
35 Sacred Crystal – 3000 Gold
70 Sacred Crystal – 5000 Gold
150 Sacred Crystal – 10000 Gold
(Only 3k Gold and up are different, but theres a pretty big difference.)

Also, Schoolgirl and Garania are going to be the new Premium Chance Up units.

>> No.13264848

>>13264698
Ruins fodder is higher level though

>> No.13264889

>>13263500
Some guy on facebook bought some a day before that and is throwing a fit, reminds me of steam sales when people buy a game the day before it comes up cheaper in special sales.

>> No.13265116

>>13264889
Man, that feeling sucks. But not much you can do about it. no matter what date they announce someone would have bought it the day before. Can't save everyone.

>> No.13265301

Guys My modem stopped working and i won't be able to log in until Saturday that they will bring a new one, please be patient with me until then... what hurts me the most is missing the start of the new event tomorrow ;_;[/spoiler ]

>> No.13265631

What the fuck, my Aigis save data got corrupted randomly again. You think having choppy wifi outdoors causes it?

>> No.13265732

All my expeditions came back and I got my sharo necktie....soooo happy

>> No.13266108

Well one of my comrades has quit the game, so I've got an open spot if anyone is interested.

>> No.13266139

>>13266108
Oh...oh....I think I have one of those too. Would love to add ya

>> No.13266173

>>13265631
What exactly you were doing when it happened? Generaly, all operations in the game are instant - i.e. if you're gachaing, you send a short packet for the server to run the operation. Even if you disconnect instantly after pressing the button, nothing will happen - your crystals get deducted and when you reconnect your new unit will be waiting for you.

>> No.13266458

I'm sitting at 74 Crystals atm.
Is it worth going for Cyrus if I can only get one copy and can't CR him?

Or should I wait for next rotation?

>> No.13266494

Any idea what time the event will start?

>> No.13266515

>>13266458
Do you need a gold mage?

>> No.13266568

>>13266515
I don't know myself.

>> No.13266575

>>13266568
Did you gacha and get mages? Are you planning to try gacha for incoming mages?

>> No.13266698

>>13266575
Not a casher, and I only got the Valeries, and min cost Bronze dude so far.

>> No.13266762

Flocci, hope you're watching this Tsar I'm taking down now.

>> No.13266776

>>13266762
Yep, kept an eye on it.

>> No.13266831

Aigis maintenance over. Good luck anons.

>> No.13266861

Got a silver bandit Mortimer from the second event map, on the 4th map dragonnewt, got caught unawares by a dragonmage which promptly raped my LVL30CC50(I think thats the right way to say it)Valerie, Belinda and Fedora, in 3 hits.

>> No.13266866

>>13266861
Same with that Dragon Mage. fucked me out of a three star. And I was on a role too.

>> No.13266868

>>13266861
>LVL30CC50(I think thats the right way to say it)
Pretty sure the first number is generaly the pre-CC level. So are you saying that you CC'd at 30 and then levelled to 50 or that you CC'd at 50 (as you generally should) and then got him to 30 yet?

>> No.13266876

>>13266868
I CC'd at 50 and leveled them to 30, so that means they lvl50/30

>> No.13266879

>>13266876
So that would be written as 50CC30

>> No.13266881

>>13266866

Yeah, dragonnewt's Mage came out after I'd put down all my witches elsewhere. Could have cycled otherwise. Went back and 3*d it the 2nd time.

>> No.13266885
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13266885

>10 rolls
>Mehlia on second try
>Garania on third try
>Mehlia again later
>rest of the rolls repeats or pretty much shit

Eh, could've been a lot worse.

>> No.13266887

Anyone know what the easter egg does with stamina, I plan on running out of stamina then using it just in case.

>> No.13266897

>>13266887

I used mine, it was like a sta-refill crystal usage: i.e. over-charges if applicable.

Anyway, taking a break until my sta refills naturally before the final mission.

>> No.13266899

>>13266885
2 rolls since I can't afford more. Valerie and Alissa. Oh god.

>> No.13266906

Fuck me I'm dumb as hell, got Leeanne to 40, to use my plat armor to 50 then class evolve.

I got her to 40 then proceeded to evolve. Holy crap I'm dumb.

>> No.13266913

>>13266897
Final mission has two of those dragon mages.

They're annoying.

>> No.13266925

Is there any way to not be kicked out of the leveling screen after you do it?

It's annoying to have to constantly go back and select the unit you want to level.

>> No.13266935
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No Mischa... such sadness.

>> No.13266960
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In the process of 3* this one, when I got this showed up. These bugs are really pissing me off.

>> No.13266973

I'm curious, how high did anybody around enhance their gear? Did anybody manage to get some more pluses on the Asklepios?

>> No.13266975

>>13266973
I've got a +21 hygaias cup, I'm sure others have better than that though.

>> No.13267056

>3star all maps except dragonnewt and final
>roll
>silver thief
Every time

>> No.13267057

I think this is the correct JP wiki page for this event: http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%CE%B5%BF%CD%A4%CE%BF%AF%B9%B6

Hmm, Soma really is favoured over Daniela. Though with the shit drop rates it's probably not worth burning crystals to farm.

>> No.13267066

>>13267057
What are the rates? Belinda's had 8% IIRC?

>> No.13267080

>>13267066
7%

>> No.13267132

I've gotten 2 silvers from 24 stamina so far, anyone else gotten as much.
Could they have improved the drop rates a little?

>> No.13267142

>>13267132
In the Nip version this event came before Bellinda. And on top of that, it's an event type that tends to have worse drops/drop rates.

So it's probably either the same or worse.

>> No.13267156

>>13267132
21 stamina and I only got two bronzes and a platinum fairy from the King

>> No.13267168

>>13267132
1 silver and 1 flower. That's all I've got for clearing all the missions so far.

>> No.13267191

Maps #1, 2, 3, 5, and 6 are done and will go up later today.

>> No.13267321

okay, how come Pham's max level is 30? Other UC cards are 40

>> No.13267390

>>13267321

JP wiki: 初MAXLv30

She's supposed to be the very first UC you earn after tutorials. The low initial limit (she caps at 40 at + and ++) is to help newbies max her quicker. Given Pham was replaced by Elle in the quest drops, it looks weird now.

>> No.13267456

Anyone know if the new mission is Original Difficulty or Reprint Difficulty? (I.e. do the Mages do Magic or Physical?).

I've only just finished Dragonewt and couldn't really tell since my two CC healers and CC Valk didn't really have any issues against a single Dragon Mage.

>> No.13267482

>>13267456
Physical. My 15% MR Dahlia took 500 damage per hit when she activated her skill (reduces her Defense to 0).

>> No.13267514

>>13267482

So a single CC HA (Bernice) with 2x CC Healers should be sufficient for the last of the missions? Not really sure what to level up with my additional Charisma to make sure I can 3 star everything else moving forward.

I already goofed once and didn't put my soldiers down fast enough on Dragon Caller and let a single goblin through in the start, got it easily the second try.

>> No.13267527

>>13267514
There are Two Dragon Mages on two separate Lanes. Plus a boss on another lane. You're gonna need 3 tanks.

>> No.13267559

>>13267527

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=298&v=bYxJ-QWxN4E

Pretty much attempting to follow this to a T. My secondary HA is 36 Leanne which will be taking the place of the video's bronze HA in the second lane.

The differences between me and the video will be Katie and Phyllis to hold the side lanes at the start, a CC Valerie instead of the female CC mage, CC Belinda instead of CC Cloris, CC Bernice instead of CC Leanne, Leanne instead of Bronze HA, and CC Soma instead of CC Daniela.

The one thing I'm not sure of is what would be the most important to ensure is up to par for handling that strategy.

>> No.13267601

Rolled, premium twice; got Garania and Stray.

Never heard of Stray. Is he good?

>> No.13267623

>>13267601
better than all silver archers when awakening rolls out, from what I've been told. But I don't use more than 1 archer, and decided to stick to Soma who was already 50CC30 when I got Stray.

>> No.13267886

I managed to roll 4 Bernices... Already CC and CR one of them. What should I do with the other 2 copies? Should I CC + CR one of them too? Have no other HA other than Bernice and Leanne

>> No.13267924

I'm wondering which is better on spending lottery golds at the moment: Card Lottery or Item Lottery?

Card Lottery is needed in order to prepare for Continent 7 explorations. Having Mabel, Marsha, Sophie, and Coo all 4Max still won't reach 200k combat strength. Possible to reach it by adding max level UCs, but who's gonna train UCs? Gonna need those Lottery-only cards.

Item Lottery is important right now because the +75% element shields/armors is only around until April 27th.

>> No.13267930
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Well, I'm not impressed with these results.

>> No.13267961

>>13267930
A-Atleast you got Schoolgirl.

>>13267601
Stray is generally considered the weakest out of all Gold Archers.

>> No.13267965

>>13267961
Eh, I don't particularly like her "negi genderswap" look.

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>>13267321
>>13267390

I don't know about the base or ++, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

>> No.13268082

failed to 3star king again, not even sure how. Probably one of the duelers died before I could withdraw em

>> No.13268300

>>13267924
>Item Lottery is important right now because the +75% element shields/armors is only around until April 27th

Are those the rewards for cont.7?

>> No.13268345

>do not unseal Dorania

What does unseal mean?

>> No.13268390

>>13268345
Dunno why they said Unseal, since I'd consider Unsealing her to be Class Changing her.

What they means is don't be a retard who sells her for Gold / fuses her away for XP because they think she's useless.

>> No.13268415

>>13266173
I have no idea, I hopped onto Aigis on my laptop on a lunch break and the 3rd pastoral gate I ran errored out when sending results and I just closed it and got back to work. When I got home my save was corrupted.

>> No.13268419

so after you 3star all the maps, you can forget about the event since it doesn't even drop plats like Belinda's did?

>> No.13268435

>>13268419
Correct. That's why Trial Events are much loved. It's possible to clear them at 100% on the first or second day, then for the rest of the event you can do Dailies. (In JP Events run back to back most of the time, so you actually have to choose between Dailies and Events most of the time, and usually you end up choosing the Event instead).

>> No.13268440

>>13268435
well honestly, I don't care much for any daily except monday and thursday.

>> No.13268459

Woo yeah, just 3*d dragon king. All hail the rolling bandit wall! 50CC20+ silver bandits can tank 3 shots and the 4th fireball can be 'dodged' by withdrawing at the right timing. Goal was to quickly kill one dragon mage with a CC Valerie and CC Soma (outranging the mage's AoE while it shoots the bandit). They did it in the time I withdrew both Mortimer and Eunice - even had Cypria come out just in case but the dragon mage died. The other one was a basic tank & witch job - healers had no problem with just one.

Now to farm map 5 for more Soma.

>> No.13268467

>>13268440
You'll care more later on. In JP Thurday and Friday are both Magic Crystal. And you can never have enough fucking Fairies. I've had to resort to eating high-rarity units (Platinum + Silver) without fairies because they drop nonstop but I never have enough Fairies. I was short around ~150 Silver Fairies and ~100 Platinum ones.

>> No.13268490

>>13267924

If you ask me, Card Lottery. Having a lottery weapon is essential for earlygame because it lets you quickly farm Rs and SRs from high level comrades. Now that you've got an established Valkyrie team (and the cha to afford deploying them) you can choose to rely on your girls for damage output instead of doing it yourself.

Weapons won't help on expeditions at all. So I'd say invest for the long-term now rather than later.

>> No.13268526

>>13263830

The one issue with fodder farm: I can't keep up. At peak efficiency, the farm (at present) wants 9 Lv1 Cs every hour. That outpaces natural stamina regen. I could see a future farm relying on Chariot that could pump 12 Lv1 Cs per hour.

Well, just over a day of running the fodder farm has gotten me 700k Gila (includes pot lids -> bars activities too). Now that I'm richer than I ever was, I should send out some expensive expeditions. Must get Camus...

>> No.13268543

>>13268526

Oh and there seem to be some guaranteed drops in expeditions - every single fodder farm run has gotten me a Lv 5 Bull Pig (wind C) and at least 1 vendor trash.

>> No.13268546

Is it just my imagination or do the Dragon Mages do different damage types depending on the map? (Unless there was a stealth patch today). My Dahlia took different damage depending on whether I used her skill or not in Dragonnewt, but Bernice always takes 500 in Ryujin King.

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>>13268300

>> No.13268783

>>13263830
>>13268526
I'd like to try this out, but I want to finish the main quest first for choco. That'll be a while too since I'm only at paradise of the strong.

>> No.13268793

so an anon was saying in an earlier thread there were 2 difficulties for the aigis event. which did we end up getting, the easier one or the harder one?

>> No.13268822

>>13268793
I think the harder, the dragon mages seem to kill my 50CC30 HA pretty easily. I have to CC a second healer before I can 3star this I guess

>> No.13268862

Just got a level 5 Elaine from doing Dragonewt. What other silvers can we get from this event?

>> No.13268881

>>13268862
I got Soma and Bernard earlier

How does this guy compare to Leanne?

>> No.13268921

>>13268881
Max stats:

Bernard
2138 HP, 224 Attack, 386 Defense

Leanne
1813 HP, 209 Attack, 426 Defense

Everything else is exactly the same. Leanne is better against regular mobs, Bernard is better against bosses / magic users.

>> No.13268940

>>13268921
Guess I'll level him eventually, sounds useful

>> No.13268942

>>13268605
>>13268300

You know....I even quoted you in my post, and failed to read the words "ITEM LOTTERY". Stupid..

Anyway, In that case I'm in the same situation as you...I almost exclusively go with card lotto, as the only thing that I forever want is winstick. With the extra gear involved, I think I will give it a go.

>> No.13268950

>>13268862
from first stage to last: Harissa, Mortimer, Phyllis, Elaine and Bernard, Soma, Cecily, Crave, Elaine

>> No.13269038

Woah, chariots are worth 2M'ing despite being a C. At 2M max, they add nearly 20k power on their own for 12 cost. As expected of a combat auxiliary.

>>13268942

It's a valid choice. Me, I choose to let my team do the job and won't make a fuss myself. That choice may bite me later on, but I'll stick to it. Goodness knows I need another [insert SR name here].

>> No.13269173

>>13269038
Oh I agree....I usually will throw a login at item lotto about every 5th time or so.....and always get burned. Like I just was. 4 spins= No winstick, no elemental armors or shields....got 2 of the elemental weapons, which are GARBAGE. Back to the card lotto

>> No.13269214

>>13267924
>>13268942
>>13269038
As another guy, I'm going to spending them all on item lotto. I already have more cards than I have the farming capacity to reasonably level.
Plus the shields, especially with robes, are fucking swag.

When the shields run out, I get up to highest level quests and the elemental fountain rolls in, then will I get down for some cards.

>> No.13269235

>>13269214
I've been exclusively doing item lottos out of spite the past week. I've gotten nothing but garbage from it and I won't stop until I this event ends.

>> No.13269246

>>13269235
Mm. I'll probably stockpile login proofs and do it all in one big go near the end of the line.
(also restrain myself from spending "leftover" points on little force recharges)

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Watch out Neo, here I come!

>> No.13269463

What cards have you 4M'd? I'm working on Riku right now but I still need one more copy.

>> No.13269598

>>13269463
Mobile Girl Delta (technically the 4M itself needs maxing, but prior to evolving, she was maxed)
Pure Girl Marin
Quiet Knight Athena
Flame Athlete Hana

I'm close to a 4M Reaper Girl Mabel, but I'm missing a fourth copy.

>> No.13269630

I can't tell if I'm just bad at Aigis or something's wrong with the map, but I can't hit the flying units that come down the middle of the map on Deep Forest Road.

>> No.13269751

>>13269630
I will give you a hint. Majority of the flying units are up top.

>> No.13269993

Can someone hit Depaq's Dreadnaught a few more times, please? I'll only be able to hit it one more time to kill it with remaining force.

>> No.13270042

>>13269630
the hitboxes of flying things are generally not really what they seem, it's weird sometimes

soma's skill might help you there

>> No.13270058

>>13267961
Really? Stray's skill seems nice, I thought he was better than the catgirly one. Well, I have a plat archer so whatever.

>> No.13270070

Tips for Dragonewt if I have a CC healer but don't have a CC Kerry or HA?

I don't really care about the last mission but mincost Aria would be nice.

>> No.13270076

>>13270070
3* Dragonewt, that is

>> No.13270203

>>13270070
People were saying it's physical damage so with decent healers you can tank it with a non-CC HA. Would be easier to give advice with an idea of what you do have though.

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>>13270203
Here's the current roster I've been trying it with.

I've been trying to follow this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgbXYmhrVdE
And it works up until the Dragon mage. My last attempt was foiled due to me being a retard and placing Alissa right there as the video shows, which means her healing didn't reach Kerry and therefore the Dragon just wrecked my shit. I was going to switch their positions next try.

Just looking for advice if I should change up tactics or just bruteforce through grinding.

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>>13270070
So far, I've 2 starred it with killing all enemies. Excluding the dragon mage, I can kill all the enemies with barely any damage dealt back to me on my part.

Pic is my current team. All girls have max affection. Valerie at 30% Trust. To have a better shot at the map, it's essential to keep you healers as far away from the lower right hole as possible while still in range to heal whatever units are there. Also, while I have a princess, anyone with a high enough defense as well as high attack will do. In this case, a Valkyrie works as well, and Elaine or any other Valk that has a defense skill is preferable.

>> No.13270301

>>13269463
Ghostly Apparition Mea
Fierce Crimson Wolf Luca

I don't have enough SRs yet.

>> No.13270331

>>13270238
Nevermind about that video, won't work for shit. Leanne can't kill the enemy Valk fast enough.

I'm stumped.

>> No.13270391

>>13270238
You could try something like this if you have a spare mage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BguR7U7e8G0

Letting the dragon mage circle around and slowly killing it with a HA and 2 healers seems like it was a popular low level strategy in the original JP event.

>> No.13270394

>>13270331
You can reverse the formation at the end. Instead of killing the dragon mage on the right you can switch it to the left and kill it easier. And both healer will heal without getting splashed too. Only problem is that can you micro fast enough to pull of the switching sides.

>> No.13270415

>>13270391
Yeah, I have two Lv20 Valeries fucking gacha on top of the two in the pic, this looks like it could work. I'll try it out when my stuff recharges.

>> No.13270428

>>13270331
You know you can just add an extra Witch/Mage there to kill the Cavalry then retreat before the Dragon Mage comes right? If you look at the video the guy has 8 extra units he doesn't use.

>> No.13270447

>>13269214
Isn't the lottery Angel of Sin hella stronk?

>> No.13270457

>>13270428
I'm not sure if that would work, as I'd have to pull the mage out before the bottom Dragon Knight reaches Leanne (with almost full health), making Dorca split her heals and resulting into Kerry getting splattered all the same.

>> No.13270477

>>13270457
How would it not work? Even in his video, using only Leanne to DPS, he almost kills the Cavalry before bottom Dragon Knight reaches it. Unless you're under the impression that I'm telling you to move your Mage from left to right.

>> No.13270491

>>13270477
I'd have to try it out really.

>> No.13270515

Videos 1-7 going up right now including guides in the description.
Playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZOlWUpDBQm0OIn12wODH-AB8Jeq0ylC2
>>13263129

>> No.13270584

Also, Dragon Mages are confirmed to do Magical Damage (Reprint Difficulty). So if you're having trouble 3*ing Ryuujin King that's why. My 650 Defense Bernice was getting wrecked by them until I switched to Dahlia. If they were doing Physical I should have been able to outheal them with a lvl 10 Silver Healer.

>> No.13270672

>>13270584

I had a feeling that was the case, my 50CC33 Bernice w/ two different (Alissa and Dorca) 50CC31 healers wasn't able to keep up. I actually messed up my first try and didn't withdraw Bernice fast enough.

Dahlia did a way better job the second time around and got me my 3*.

Does anyone happen to know what the drop rates are for the Silvers on each map? Wondering if I should grind the 5th mission for Somas to CR her.

>> No.13270685

>>13270672
Probably 3-5%. Maybe 5-8% if you're lucky.
General rule of thumb is, earlier the event is, the worst the drop rate. And this Event actually came before the Bellinda Event. And Trial Events have worse drop rates than Drop Events.

>> No.13270949

>>13270391
>>13270415
Oh fuck, that worked perfectly. Thanks for the help.

>> No.13271161

>>13269463

Sharo, Mabel, Kagura. Have more girls at 4 copies but haven't made them 4M yet. Various card-lotto girls at 2M are almost as good as Sandra/Rebecca at 4M.

>> No.13271172

>>13270584
So what's the best way to deal with them? The dragon mage of Dragonewt wrecked all my units.

>> No.13271191

>>13271172
A high level Valkyrie and healing? Tons of healing. Seems to work for me. though I got fucked out of a 3 star because a different enemy killed my soldier before I could withdraw it.

>> No.13271210

>>13271172
I just dropped my Themis in its path right after it came out, and a healer within heal range. That's all I needed to kill it. Just tanked it far away from any other units.

I'd imagine many other units aside from Themis can do the same. I only chose her because of her MR. Lancer Elaine has the same MR, so if you have her decently leveled, I think she can do just fine.

>> No.13271211

>>13270447

Yes, Kai is the best of the 3 angels we got this update.

>> No.13271212
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I have all this yet I feel so lost on what to do.

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>>13271210
I just finished 3*ing the whole event, using pic related as my team for the whole thing. Several of those units were never even used.

These maps are quite easy overall, given the fact that they let you easily build up unit points long before you need to worry about the strong enemies at the end.

>> No.13271217

>>13271210
I really need to level my princess then, she got killed by the mage way too fast.

>> No.13271230

>>13271217
I pretty much did exactly as mentioned above for Dragonewt.

Plopped princess down on the mage, and had one healer in heal range of it. Princess and that healer were both being hit with the attacks, but I had a second healer healing the first healer. And of course I retreated any other unit within the blast radius. This allowed the first healer to only heal the princess. It didn't take her long to finish it off.

>> No.13271250
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>>13271212

For me, the dragon mages were a matter of putting down fat HP bandits to tank while ranged units were outside splash radius. For reference, this was my team.

>> No.13271380

So I ran a quick experiment: cleared a (cheap) map, waited for the "you got 3*" pop-up and then refreshed page without clicking Ok. Still got the EXP and drops when I loaded up again. Good to know a crash after a long afk still gets you the rewards if the map had finished.

>> No.13271413

>try 3 premium rolls.
>Mortimer, Eunice and Dorca, All Silvers.

Fucking Damnit. And I have no one to blame but myself Getting high off all the crystals I got.

>> No.13271427

>>13271413

I know that feel, did my first ever premium rolls yesterday. At least I can put those silvers to good use with silver fairies - was wondering if I'd have to grind up a plat armour for every 50CC40+ silver unit I have. Lv 20 silver + 3 fairies = 4k EXP.

>> No.13271438

Fuck yeah, 2 plats in just 3 runs of 血の宴, this is great. Also got a black fairy in 2 tries of the mission before it. Is it just me or is this event wayyyy easier than the druid one with those fucking dark elf avengers and shit?

>> No.13271468

Does anyone want a red dragon? Schverika has one on 3 hours still.

>> No.13271501

>>13271468
I'm not seeing an assist request from him.

>> No.13271512

>>13271501

I haven't hit it yet. Wasn't sure if it'd be a waste of force. I take it you want it?

>> No.13271516

>>13271512
Ah, I see. Yes please.

>> No.13271520

>>13271516

It's up now. Happy hunting.

>> No.13271527

>>13271520
Thanks. I'll tap lightly it for now (my own dragon had a bunch of other /jp/ people gunning for it, so I don't think yours would lack support) but if it will be going stale I probably can kill it dead with a little spam.

>> No.13271540

>>13271527
Nvm looks like I didn't even need to bother light tapping.

>> No.13271586

First time I 2-hit assist on a Tsar. 3 is my usual performance.

>> No.13271729

finally 3stared the king, had my princesses dispatch the 2 mages

>> No.13271731

somehow, watching 50CC30 Cyrus demolishing entire squads of dragons is really satisfying

>> No.13271777
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The realisation I can farm Godam (for wind accessory) for the price of a silver bar. Some of these girls have room to grow, I could push for 100% great success if I invest the fodder.

>> No.13271793

>>13271777
I've gotta get myself some of those cost reduction valks

>> No.13271925

>>13271380
Another thing is (at least if it's the same as JP), if you lose connection mid mission, just don't click anything after you win the map until connection comes back. Once it's back, if you start clicking then, you get the rewards just fine.

>>13271438
Overall difficulty is way down, those Avengers made the last event a DPS race. The fucking 70/6 Golems though.

Also, all 8 videos should be on the playlist now.

>> No.13271955

Get a gold from premium gacha, within a day she's 50CC20+ - good to use up my huge surplus of gold fairies, I have space again.

>>13263830

Feeding units feels so different with fodder farm up. Desire sensor denying me a water C or fire C when the farm clock is almost over is frustrating. I stockpile a bunch of Lv2 Cs into a storage box and then decide who needs pumping once it starts to get full.

I now categorise what fodder to feed depending on level:
- up to 20: Lv2 C
- up to 35: Lv5~10 C and surplus Rs
- 36+: Books

I have no girls who are near 4M at present, everyone either is; or is only at 2M and needs another fresh 2M; or lacks spare copies to be worth training. So I rotate who gets fed depending on what quality fodder I have on hand.

>> No.13272077

is there a guide video for dwarf battle? I can't do this shit

>> No.13272102

>>13272077
Why do you want to clear Dwarf Battle? You realize the map immediately afterwards is considered basically the most bullshit map in the entire game right?

>> No.13272137

>>13272102
I actually have no idea what is after it. Is it worse than immortal beast?

>> No.13272142

>>13272137
Let's put it this way. Don't even bother trying it unless you have 3x 50CC50 Witches with 100% Affection.

>> No.13272241
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So, I needed some Lv5 water C so here I am in Token Forest (dungeon 1-3). Treating it as a training camp - for <6k Gila I send 3 high level R/R+s to (very, very slowly) grind up to 45.

Bellerose (2-1) is being farmed for 26k Gila to get Lv10 fodder. Not the cheapest way to get fodder, but I'm desperate enough that I'll do it. It's easier for me to assemble an all-physical team and assault Continent 3's no-magic dungeon but that's an 8h trip.

>> No.13272471

Rolled three premium gacha.

Every time it's gold, but no Mehlis. "Rate up" my ass.

Got Themis, Cuterie and white beardy.
Not so bad compared to some people though.

>> No.13272677

>>13272471
Rate up only means 1/3 of the % allocated to a rarity. So it's about a 12% chance of rolling Mehlis.

>> No.13272691

So sharo's necktie with my dark blade = 47 balance. It's Fucking wacky

>> No.13272856

>>13272691
how does balance work in LoV anyway? Are high values good or bad?

>> No.13272946

>>13272856
it is a measure on how much your attk varies. Higher values gives you less consistency, but a chance for bigger damage

>> No.13272997

>>13272856
It's both, good and bad, depending on the situation. When you simply look at average damage, balance will always either increase it, or not do anything, but not reduce it, depending on the enemy's defense value (the closer you are to not dealing any damage at all, the better balance becomes).

However, when it comes to specific instances, rather than average damage, it can be both good or bad. If you have 0 balance you would have 0 variance, meaning you always deal the same damage. This is good if you deal enough damage to reach the assist threshold with one attack, because it means you will get the assist 100% of the time, and it's bad if you don't reach the threshold because then you will never get it.

>> No.13273305

Ok i'm back in the game, new modem is here and i'm ready to take on the Aigis event
Back to day 1 in Lov fuck you modem /spoiler]

>> No.13273359

>>13271925
Yeah the golems are ridiculous but at least you can just avoid them and 2* that.

>> No.13273378

>>13271438
Also now I'm at 4 plats in 5 runs here. Too bad this mission won't be around forever.

>> No.13273492

>>13273378
I'm at 5 runs and 0 Plats.

>> No.13273598

>>13273492
Did it another two times and now i'm 5/7. On the other hand, I haven't gotten a single silver from it I guess.

I haven't even seen which unit drops the plat though, it always happens while I'm paying attention to the lich.

>> No.13273659

anyone have a list of items that are explore-only that are worth grinding for?

>> No.13273684

The skill awakening thing seems iffy, most of them have potential drawbacks in some cases, like Iris only being able to use her skill once per mission, or Grace being lowered to 10% hp instead of 50%, or Cornelia not protecting her allies as much, instead focusing on herself, or some units like Matsuri or Clissa getting a completely different skill. If there's no major drawback then the CD increases, at least, and it looks like it always changes the first activation CD from 1s to 5s.

Seems like in a lot of cases you might not want to skill change.

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Such a nice way to start with my new modem

>> No.13273715

>>13273684
Is there a list of these awakening changes?

>> No.13273799

>>13273715
Most of them are up on the jp wiki on individual unit pages.

http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%a5%d6%a5%e9%a5%c3%a5%af

If you don't know moonrunes then I can translate them if there's a specific one you want to know I guess.

>> No.13273811

>>13273715
>>13273799
Have a table instead.

No information on Plat/Gold Skill Awakenings yet because everyone used their Awakening Mats on Blacks instead.

>> No.13273824

>>13273811
Only blacks actually have skill awakenings yet, to my knowledge. Gold/plat units will come later.

>> No.13273828

Looking at the table, they seem rather unbalanced. Some skills like Dina's take a huge hit. Cooldown goes from 25 seconds to 55 seconds; and the effect is pretty small 2.0x attack instead of 1.9x, and small range.

But Cornelia's Skill has almost tripled duration, and shorter Cooldown. Slightly worse against magic attacks, but way better against melee ones.

>> No.13273835

>>13273824
Ah, that would explain why. I was confused as to why no one had Skill Awoken Thetis yet when she's considered so strong.

>> No.13273851

>>13273828
The main draw of Dina's skill awakening is that her attacks become AoE.

>> No.13273857

>>13273851
That's Deine/Dine, not Dina.

>> No.13273890

>>13273857
It's both.

>> No.13273901

>>13273890
Really? The Table says Dine gets AoE, but for Dina it only says that she gains range.

>> No.13273918

>>13273901
What table? I'm just going off the wiki.

>> No.13273931

>>13273918
The one I linked >>13273799
And the wiki literally says for Dina "long ranged attack", says nothing about AoE. For Dine it says "attack enemies around".

>> No.13273944

>>13273931
範囲攻撃 is the same wording they use to describe other aoe attacks. I don't see a table anywhere.

>> No.13273953

>>13273944
Whoops, forgot to hit ctrl + v in my original post.
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%A5%B9%A5%AD%A5%EB%B3%D0%C0%C3%2F%A5%D6%A5%E9%A5%C3%A5%AF#warrior

>> No.13273962

>>13273944
No, 範囲攻撃 is the wording they use to specify that the "range" of an effect goes up.

Which is why they use it for Mages. Mages already do AoE, it's not that they gain AoE from using their skill.

>> No.13273977

>>13273962
>the "range" of an effect goes up.

I have no idea what that means but I can't find anything but AoE attacks that say 範囲攻撃.

>> No.13273989

>>13273977
Go to the top of wiki and search "範囲攻撃".

You get results for units who have single-target attacks, as well as for effects that affect ALL ranged effects (not just AoE ones).

>> No.13274003

>>13273977
>>13273989
Alternately, just look at Dine's Awakening Skill who gets AoE after Awakening.
25秒攻撃発生までの時間が長くなるが攻撃力が3.5倍、自身の周囲の敵全員を攻撃
Notice how 範囲攻撃 doesn't show up in it? That's because 範囲攻撃 has to do with the "range" of an attack. Dine's Skill is AoE, not ranged. On the other hand, Dina's skill is ranged, but single target.

>> No.13274010

>>13273989
Could you give an example? And could you explain what you're saying 範囲攻撃 actually means?
>>13274003
Dine's wording is different from other AoE because it's not an actual AoE attack, it's just multi-target, is what I'm claiming. I haven't actually seen it in action so feel free to prove otherwise.

>> No.13274020

>>13274010
範囲攻撃
Literally just means "ranged attack". When used regularly it means the unit attacks at range. When used in a skill it usually means that the effect of "something" is increased. (Or decreased) which usually means one of two things.
- A melee unit can attack at ranged during the skill.
- The range of an effect is increased such as in 範囲攻撃 I / 範囲攻撃 II / 範囲攻撃 III which is a skill some Mages have. It increases the "range" of their AoE. (Basically just means their AoE is bigger).

It has zero meaning of AoE unless the unit already has an AoE (Dina does not).

And I can safely say Dine's skill does AoE and not multihit because every single attack / skill that does multihit has the number of hits listed on the wiki, where Dine just says "she hits stuff around her target".

>> No.13274026

>>13274020
ranged is 遠距離 though

>> No.13274042

>>13274020
>And I can safely say Dine's skill does AoE and not multihit because every single attack / skill that does multihit has the number of hits listed on the wiki, where Dine just says "she hits stuff around her target".

This is because Dine doesn't do a specific number of targets or hits.

>> No.13274044

>>13274026
遠距離 Is "long-distance". They use that when talking about ranged units. I.E. units that can sit on the ranged unit spots.
範囲攻撃 Is "range(d) attack". Regardless of whether they sit on the melee unit spots or the ranged ones.

>> No.13274058

>>13274044
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGfCGHPRg3I

Checkmate.

>> No.13274076

>>13274058
覚醒スキル 「怪力爆砕鉄球」発動中は射程200になり攻撃倍率2倍にて遠距離範囲物理攻撃を行う 一言で言うと、メイジアーマーの物理版。
Guess she does do AoE. Her Awakening Skill doesn't say that though.

>> No.13274084

>>13274076
Well my interpretation of 範囲攻撃 properly predicted what she does, so are you sure that's not what it means? I've yet to see an actual conterexample, just claims.

>> No.13274098

>>13274084
Have you tried putting 範囲攻撃 into a dictionary? It literally means "ranged (not melee) attack".

As I said, you can literally just type 範囲攻撃 into either of the wikis' search bar and hit enter. See what you find. You get ranged units who only hit single targets, as well as melee units who can temporarily become single target ranged units.

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I dun goooood...

>> No.13274178

>>13274098
I didn't find anything, that's why I asked for an example.

>> No.13274192

>>13274178
Then tell me, do Archers do AoE?

Then why do I keep getting Archers when searching 範囲攻撃?

>> No.13274194

>>13274098
Also here are some results I got for looking up what it means.

範囲攻撃(はんいこうげき)は、敵ユニットを攻撃するとき1度に複数体攻撃すること。またはその能力。

範囲攻撃(はんいこうげき)
1体ではなく、複数の対象にその影響が及ぼされる攻撃の総称。

It means attacks that hit multiple things, not ranged attacks.

>> No.13274200

>>13274192
post a fucking example how many times do i have to tell you

>> No.13274210

>>13274200
Do you not know how to Google? Seriously how retarded are you? 範囲攻撃 literally means "ranged". Does "ranged" suddenly mean "area of effect ranged". If you don't know Japanese just use fucking google translate.


範囲攻撃(はんいこうげき)は、敵ユニットを攻撃するとき1度に複数体攻撃すること。またはその能力
Range attack ( range attack ) is to multiple body attack at a time when you attack the enemy unit . Or its ability .
Notice how the "range attack" part is separated? That's because range effect doesn't mean AoE, so it had to list the "multiple target" part separately.

>> No.13274218

>>13274210
So all your knowledge comes from google translate, gotcha. No wonder.

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>>13274218
Please tell me you're just pretending to be retarded.

Here, I even marked them in case you're illiterate.

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>>13274218

>> No.13274298

>>13274218
If you want to include the skills that affect 範囲攻撃, I can add red lines to about 85% of that list (after excluding units that have some form of AoE).

>> No.13274314

>>13274218
I'll ask again retard. Do Archers do AoE? If not, why do Archers do 範囲-attacks? (範囲攻撃).

>> No.13274318

>>13274282
>>13274288
Looks like those are all just comment pages that mention the term somewhere in there because people are discussing AoE attacks in relation to the unit. The ones that actually link to a unit page just mention the term in the 雑感. Please don't think you actually know Japanese just because you can use machine translation. Some of the ones you marked aren't even units at all.

>>13274314
Find me anything that says this.

>> No.13274346

>>13274318
Tell me sensei, what does 範囲攻撃 mean?

>> No.13274354

>>13274318
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?cmd=read&page=%C7%A6%BC%D4%A5%B5%A5%A4%A5%BE%A5%A6&word=%C8%CF%B0%CF%B9%B6%B7%E2

>> No.13274355

>>13274346
I gave you multiple dictionary definitions that say they mean attacks that hit multiple targets, but since you don't know Japanese, that was lost on you.

>> No.13274358

>>13274354
That page just says that ninjas have low HP so they die easily to AoE attacks. How delusional are you?

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How do I 3* Ryujin King with this team?

>> No.13274641

>>13274622
You ____don't._____

>> No.13274674

>>13274641
I don't know, maybe he ca-
>no CC'd mage
N-nevermind.

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>>13274161
I got 3 of each the first couple days. Finding the last one is a pain in the ass.

>> No.13274813

>>13274622
Simply put, you don't.

You..
-Have too few healers
-Healers too low level
-Too few armor
-Armor too low level
-Both archers are too low level
-Both witches are too low level
-Three sub 10 mages are completely worthless
-Valkyrie too low level
-Rogue is completely useless against mages

To put this into perspective, on jp, I had a level 50cc40 Dina and a level 50 platinum healer that has rapid heal, which completely gets rid of between cast delay.

And I could not tank them.

Later event, I had my healer to 50cc55 with 100% affection and I still needed to tank them separately. Requiring another healer and a handful of beefy units to swap out to tank the second while the first is dealt with.

>> No.13274866

Anyone free to add me on LoV?
Avatar name is FlutterNova

>> No.13274878

>>13274622
i think step 1 would be feeding those mages to each other

>> No.13274891

>>13274878
Don't say "feeding". He needs to CC, but feeding usually means "for XP" which is rather wrong.

>> No.13274973

>>13274813
Eh, I did it just fine without even using an armor. My princess (Themis) did the job just fine.

>> No.13274974

>>13274891
i suppose he needs a mage or two to CC him but I was talking about cost reduction

>> No.13274986

>>13274974
And that's just bullshit. He's obviously freemium and that absolutely does not have silvers spare to waste on CRing. They are all needed to CC each other and a handful of tradepost/gacha units.

>> No.13275017

>>13274986
oh yeah i forgot that silvers are hard to get on the english version

>> No.13275022

>>13274973
Princesses have 10 mr with a lot of health. since they start pre cc'd.

The alternative to armor is a few high level valkyries, but Princesses have everything a valkyrie has, and more for this scenario.

they aren't called cheat characters for no reason.

>> No.13275068

>>13271212
Just gave in and feed 2 Elaines, 1 Mortimer, 1 Eunice,1 Soma, 3 Craves and the EXP armour (only the armour to Belinda), all with either the correct fairys or gold ones.
I just hit the limit and couldn't do anything so it was time to clear up all the clutter.

>> No.13275090

>>13275068
I'm guessing I used too many craves there, but fuck was I annoyed at my space.

Just did 80k worth of 2k gatcha and got a Christopher, Phylis and Leeane, so its all good.

>> No.13275092

>>13273659

Not really a full list, but Dungeon 1-5 has a wind accessory and people seem to like getting Sharo's necktie.

>>13274161

Feels so weird I'm more impressed by your single Maria than your 4 copies of both angels.

>>13274974

Thinking of cost reducing (or skill up'ing) a silver on a team that young is the #1 reason why people want to restart the game. You do NOT use a spare silver on anything other than CC until you can somewhat reliably get silvers (i.e. farm Monday hard for fat gold) and even then, only when you actually have those spares in hand.

>> No.13275102

>>13275022

I find bandits do just fine when you have no intention to heal them - temporary tanks who retreat after a set time. They soak the important 'stray' shots until the mages walk into range of the real tanks.

>> No.13275112

>>13274622
you don't. Need a CCed mage and strong duelers
I cleared it with only one CCed healer, but I have 2 princesses

>> No.13275124

How do I grind fodder in LoV faster? I am redoing all my UC cards since I just evolved them at level1, but now I need them for exploration so I lvl40 them before evolution, but its going rather slowly
I can only clear dungeon 2-1 with my UC++ and some R++ team, for reasonable price. Harder dungeons destroy my cash too fast

>> No.13275134

>>13275124

See my fodder farm setup? From now on, every Lv1 C you get can easily be made Lv2 at a rate faster than you can get them (without using sta items) so there's no reason not to. The fodder farm will also get you Lv5 wind C and occasionally Lv8 earth C if you meet 25k power (not hard) - plus vendor trash to get you cash.

Token forest can also get you Lv5 earth C and Lv5 water C while serving as a very slow source of EXP (it's the best exp:time ratio expedition).

>> No.13275145

>>13275102
Indeed, this is how max level min cost bronze bandits, and for times when you're tighter on cost, soldiers, are used even in many endgame maps.

>> No.13275173

>>13275124
I don't know your exact situation etc, but here's what I would generally recommend when it comes to levelling UCs because you're concerned with money and costs:

1. Farm the first Quest for level 1 fodder and spread it out over your different UCs, to get them to a certain basic level. Depending on how much money you're willing to spend, this can be something between 10-ish and 30-ish, 10 is really cheap so you should be able to afford at least that.

2. Group your UCs together and farm the "Token Forest" exploration with them. Add some support commons like Amulet, Cart, Globe etc for the remaining spaces in the team. The mission takes 1 hour, fielding a purely UC based team doesn't cost much, and it has a really good exp ratio. 2 Exp for each valk may not sound like much, but if you have 4 or 5 UCs which you level simultaneously it adds up to 10 exp total per run. This will really add up over time. Clearing the stage also gives additional fodder and items you can sell to get money back.

3. If your aim is being money efficient, don't be too concerned with getting enough strength to get 100% great success chance, it's enough for the beginning if you meet the 10k threshold for normal success. Even 3 level 10 UCs alone should be able to meet, or at least be really close to that requirement. After that, once you start farming and your UCs get stronger, you will naturally start to get more and more chance of getting great success without having to field Rs and increasing your costs.

Note that you can only field one copy of a certain card in each team, so if you want to level e.g. Lamia, Salas, Cecil and Pham, you could make 2 or 3 parallel teams with them

>> No.13275244

>want to sleep
>but then all this charisma will be wasted
Fuck

>> No.13275247

>>13275244
I know this feel. And then you level-up and your charisma is restored, so you spend another half an hour grinding

>> No.13275282

>>13275244
just accept it.

Once you get like level 90 you have 300+ and maps cost 42 max on english, and the best map is like 25 or something.

In jp you at least got 7 other 40+ cost maps, most of them desert maps that are better and better for fodder than the last as long as you can do it, and there's awakening maps too.

>> No.13275290

>>13275282
also there's the current 100 charisma 2 stam event map that's easy to 1* if you want to farm fairies

>> No.13275305

>>13275290
And the subjugation map that gives you fairies that can act as any other unit besides time after a certain amount of kills.

It takes pretty long to do but it gives no exp so it's great for burning before sleep or before a level.

>> No.13275355

>>13275305
I thought queen fairies could only act as exp boosting fairies. Are you saying they can act as rainbow, awakening, and skill awakening fairies?

>> No.13275405

>>13275355
She works as any rarity fairy in CC and exp. Haven't tried rainbow or skill but it doesn't say she can't.

The wikis list only the three special fairies, awakening, time, and one older fairy I don't know.

>> No.13275663

>>13275405
That would be the fairy that brings any unit to max level.

>> No.13275850

>another Calliope and Iris
Fuck you goddess

>> No.13275861

>>13275850
Aren't you happy to get that Iris?

>> No.13275867
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Almost done grinding...

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>>13275861
I'd rather get something I don't have already. Oh well at least I can use her for cost reduction while Calliope is CC fodder.

>> No.13275942

>>13275879
Don't underestimate the powers of cost reduction.

>> No.13275951

just rolled a second Themis, should I use her for mincost? Princesses aren't used for CC, right?

>> No.13275965

>>13275951
Gold units aren't used for CC. If you don't want a 2nd Themis, go ahead and feed her off.

>> No.13275978

>>13275965
They are used for awakening though.

You either use a gold or a CC'd silver.

>> No.13275994

>>13275978
By the time we get Awakening, I think we'll be in the era of silver-farm events so that won't be much problem.

(also does Princess awakening even use Princesses or regular units?)

>> No.13276025

>>13275994
Regular units.

>>13275978
No one but whales use Golds for Awakening though.

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Meanwhile in my moon account.

Do I need to add that I didn't roll a golden+ character other than Julian x2 on my main acc?

>> No.13276325

>>13276311
*since 3 weeks

>> No.13276400

Boss list has only 1 Tsar. Use last of my force to summon help on own boss. Level up. 210 force bar reloaded. Down to 15 force within 10 minutes from fresh spawns...

No matter how big my force bar, peak activity will always burn through it so fast.

>> No.13276495

Finally spawned a boss of my own after a dry spell and then fuck up by hitting it twice before calling for help.

>> No.13276522

>>13274622

Unfortunately you seem to have CCed the wrong units first. You didn't need a second CCed soldier for this event.

The Valk is low level but at least CCed, the MR will be necessary to tank the Dragon Mages. Sadly you also need 2x CCed Healers, and a CCed Mage and CCed Witch.

Luckily you still have time to grind up and try given this event lasts two weeks.

>> No.13276668

>>13276522
He has a CC Witch though. Or is Cloris too high in cost after CC for King?

>> No.13276707

>>13276668
Cost isn't an issue for Ryuujin Invasion. She could do with another ~20 levels though. Also, max affection if she doesn't already.

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>>13275092
Hey now, I was happy to get complete sets of those little underachieving angels...I still only have one Melissa and two Mea's.

>> No.13276797

Do different units have different swing times? I feel like Julian, along with having more damage, swings faster than Katie

>> No.13277029

>>13276668

The witch & healer are the two that he did right for the last one. He's missing a second CCed healer and missing a CCed Mage. Both of which will be really important for 3*-ing the last mission.

>> No.13277062

>>13276797
Sometimes they do, but Katie and Julian have the same frames per attack according to data mine. I'm guessing the difference in swing animation is throwing you off.

>> No.13277070

>>13277062
Either that or the motion frames and "reload frames" are different, but add up to the same total so the wiki didn't bother making two categories when they end up having the same attack speed.

>> No.13277071

>>13277029
If I happen to have both Mehlis and Garania, which one should I CC? The obvious choice would be Garania but I'm worried about the unit cost (even after the event)

>> No.13277096

>>13277071
Garania needs two silver mages (and a silver soldier) to CC, so practically speaking, unless you've saved up more than a few Valeries that you're willing to part with, go with Mehlis.

>> No.13277250

>>13277071
How many Valeries do you have? Did you get all the plot maps up to the immortal demon? The last of them drop some valeries, so if you have them you probably can afford Garania.

>> No.13277266

Hi anons, I stumbled upon one of these archived threads while looking for some exp guides for Aigis(english version of course), I noticed there was someone talking about how you can just cheat engine a lot of stuff in that game, anyone mind telling me how exactly do you achieve that, I have some very basic skills with cheat engine, and all I really want is change the stats of the characters to cheeze through some missions, not really interested in cheating the premium currency or gold

>> No.13277275

>>13277266
Seems like you didn't read this thread and the last one then.

>> No.13277284

>>13277275
I will admit, I entered the thread and just posted without looking, if it's explained in this one/previous one I will look through them, sorry

>> No.13277286

>>13277250
3 so far but I'm still stuck at Castle Retake; one of them came from gacha.

>> No.13277299

>>13277284
They cracked down on anyone who used the cheat engine and reset all of their accounts a few days ago. Anyone who attempts to cheat further will just be banned.

>> No.13277301

>>13277071
Garania has slightly better stats and her skill boosts the size of her AoE, but Mehlis is considered the best Utility Mage in the game.

>> No.13277313

>>13277299
>few days ago
Fucking really? I played the game for a few days after it was released but dropped it when I saw no events or anything, now I just wanted to catch up to the current power creep and this shit happens, makes me just want to drop this shit again. Well there's one alternative, any idea which of the story missions up to Citadel Battle is good for exp fodder?

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>>13277266
You can't just change stats on the units, but still, you can crack their XP to instaboost to 50. You just gotta be a little wily with it.

You can crack up the stored value of "xp you get from the first unit in feeding batch". You select one fodder, search that XP value, /deselect the first one/ (that's important), select another fodder with different level (so it will give different amount), search that value. Continue until you get one target, freeze that at like 100k and you'll get your units to 50 from one iron. If you select two fodders, it will ruin the spell and you'll need to search again.

Now, I wonder if that will get you banned or not.

>>13277313
Hey mate, this is a grind game, straight up obvious. The time without events was the time to grind up enough to do the events.

Some reset people seem to be gearing up well enough for the event though, armed with nothing but their knowledge.

>> No.13277325

>>13277321
Don't forget the guide videos. The guide videos make every single map ezmode.

>> No.13277333

>>13277321
I know the feeling of grind, I play shitton of mobile games like Soccer Spirits or Dragon Ace, except in mobile games it's always event after event after event without some time in-between to grind, I guess this mindset fooled me

>> No.13277344

>>13277333
Well constant events is how it is in JP Aigis too. Here the game is still in startup stage. It would've been rather pointless to immediately run an event with hard maps when absolutely nobody can do it because the game just started, would it not?

>> No.13277351

>>13277344
Hard ones? No, I guess you are right, the other games I was talking about started form low difficulty curve though, replacing grind with event grind. Whatever, it's just pointless discussion by this point and shitposting, I'll suck it up and play with guide vids

>> No.13277464

>>13277071
Mehlis.

The range is better than the aoe, even if they amount to roughly the same, the aoe cannot fire unless a unit is in range, so it matters little.

>> No.13277608

>>13277321
That only changes the displayed numerical value of exp, the actual exp received by the unit doesn't change

>> No.13277634

>>13277608
You must be doing something wrong.

The chance of them changing deep functionality in this update is pretty much nil.

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>>13277634
Nope, seems to be fixed now, found the value, changed it, pressed the square on the left, which I believe locks the value, the character gets the regular ammount of xp

>> No.13277668

>>13277321
For those that played immediately after getting reset can get Aria and Anya just a bit before the event end if they are unlucky with plat armor.

>> No.13277694

>>13277659
Arright, I'll check it for myself tomorrow.

>> No.13277889

>>13277694
>>13277659
Although before I go off, some theories: I thiiink there are some same-class or higher rarity bonuses to the XP, that would add up to the visible value but not to the underlying value.

Try it using /only/ irons, without matching classes just to be safe.

>> No.13277900

These event drop rates really suck.

It's weird, I had about 2 silvers drop from doing those maps the first time.

Shortly after that I got another Elaine.

Since then nothing.

>> No.13277909

>>13277900
Random luck. The chance is small but flukes of frequent drops do happen still.

>> No.13277918

>>13277909
Well I did just get a bronze!

>> No.13278255

>>13277900

... I hate you. I've been grinding the event since it came out. Not a single Silver. I've already 3*ed all of it, just grinding the 5th one for more Somas so I can CC a second Archer to do Crystal Keeper H and then CR my CCed 100% Aff Soma.

I'd be happy with even a single extra Soma. Not going to skip over the Monday or Thursday events to continue the grind though.

>> No.13278311

>>13278255
Just get silvers from 2000 summons by farming tons of gold armors.

>> No.13278388

>>13277668
>just a bit before the event end if they are unlucky with plat armor.

i got reset and premium gacha had nothing but silvers for me, and all i need for 3* the last map is 2 more healers around lv 40 not even CC'd if i time them correctly

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>>13277900

i just want to CR my Soma...

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I can't 3* the last urgent mission drill. I know that this may be because of the levels but would anybody be kind to give me tips on starting out? Like which class to level first.

>> No.13278890

>>13278774
If you actually want to get Anya (from Ryuujin Invasion), I'd say Valerie first followed by two Healers, then Mage, and lastly Catgirl.

For general purpose though, I'd say Catgirl first followed by a Healer.

>> No.13278898

>>13278774
Grind story missions for a while and feed fodder to everyone to get them to like level 10 and then try again. I'd recommend replacing that iron armor as soon as you can, too. Don't worry too much, it looks like you just started.

>> No.13278916

>>13278890
I almost made the same mistake as you did. But >>13278898 got it right.

Urgent Mission DRILL.

Almost thought that guy was trolling at first.

>> No.13279167

>>13278403
>>13278255
I'm drilling the fuck out of it too (STARVING CATGIRLS), no luck yet.

>> No.13279418

>>13278774
If I remember right, there's a baphomet in the last drill. You won't be able to tank those for a while, so its easier to prepare strong range units to kill it faster.

>> No.13279585

>>13279418
the trick is that there are also witches so you need some healers behind your ranged units

>> No.13280141

What do I need to 3 star this event if I just restarted? Do I just rush a mage and healers?

>> No.13280192

>>13280141
Mage, 2 healers, a witch, possibly a Valkyrie or Heavy. I'm betting on Valkyrie. Monday daily can't come soon enough for me.

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Just did Golden Armor H four times.
In all, I got 1 golden armor and nothing else.

>> No.13280366

>>13280355
I got a plat 2 runs in a row on normal today. Pretty cool.

>> No.13280391

I hate my "luck" so much

>> No.13280635

>>13280355
>I hate my "luck" so much

Sorry mate, if it makes you feel any better, I went several weeks without getting a single Plat. I literally got a single plat on my very last H run last week.

With that said, this week I've already managed to get 2 Plats in a row (on H). Trying to figure out what I want to level up and CC next.

Anyone have any strategy for 3*-ing Castle Retake without relying on RNGesus for an Assassinate on the early Black Armor?

>> No.13280637

It'd be great if someone could hit my neo dreadnaught once so I could finish it off, its only got 15 mins left.

>> No.13280738

I havent used my easter egg yet, what is exactly supposed to do?

>> No.13280740

>>13280738
Restore full Stamina to full. If you have any leftover Stamina that gets added on as well.

>> No.13280746

>>13280740
I have 13 Stamina, so if I eat it will I have 14?

>> No.13280802

>>13280746
Current Stamina + Max Stamina.

>> No.13280811

>>13280802
ah ok. Stupid Me.

>> No.13280941

Finally cleared golden armor H, and I even 3-stared it on my first success ever
Got a bunch of gold and a single plat, much better than no plats for 3 weeks from N's

>> No.13280947

If I don't want to spend money, what are the alternative ways of getting crystals in aigis?

>> No.13280960

>>13280947

3*-ing missions and ~5 from daily log in per month.

>> No.13280968

>>13280941
3*ing maps, say story, event or daily
once you 3*d every map you can only get more from further events and daily log which gives 4~5 per month

>> No.13280981

guys i'm stuck with "Immortal Beast", what map gives better fooder per cha at my point? i'm farming "Remnant Vanquish 3" ATM

>> No.13281060

So, what can we expect for the next event? This one's been pretty boring, nothing to do after you 3star the maps

>> No.13281182

who to CC, Dorca, Valerie or Cloris? I already have CCed Alissa, Cyrus and Belinda.
Or maybe someone else entirely? I CCed Katie, Julian, Soma and Garrett. Dunno where to aim next, my gacha units are Stray, Conrad and thief Betty

>> No.13281192

>>13281182
Valerie, I'd say though Cloris would be good as well.

>> No.13281194

>>13280981
Surely its Dragon hunting, if you going for immortal beast, you gotta do tons though.

>> No.13281257

>>13277659
Well then, checking it now: it indeed seems they've blocked it off.

Good job Nutaku.
You managed to put in something that DMM didn't have originaly.

>> No.13281264

>>13281257
Oh well, easy come, easy go, grind, here I come...

>> No.13281318

>>13281257
Seems like manipulating gold, charisma and stamina results in server errors now.

>> No.13281327

>>13281318
Haven't tried gold. Charisma and Stamina work fine.

>> No.13281374

>2 plat armors and the day still isn't over
Hardmode is amazing, I had 0 plats for a month

>> No.13281826
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I am going to need so many pot lids to maximise profits here.

>> No.13281879

>>13281060
Next event is ezmode Gold Rush. Needs grinding though to get mission completion rewards.

>> No.13281917

>>13281879

So how do Gold Rush events work?

>> No.13281928

>>13281917
You know how story missions give you irons/bronzes for trash drops, and a Silver for Completion Reward when you get all drops unlocked?

Gold Rushes give silvers as trash drops (like most other event maps), and a Gold Unit for Completion Reward.

This is the main source of Gold Units for non-cash players.

I believe this particular Gold Rush has 9 missions, so you can get 9 Gold Units total.

>> No.13281962 [DELETED] 

>>13281928
That's not too bad an amount, considering we have 15 gold units in the game right now.

>> No.13281977

>>13281928
That's not too bad an amount, considering we have 16 gold units in game right now. hopefully there's a Katie and Cloris included since we can't get them from the shrine.

>> No.13281995

>>13281928
I'm assuming the drop rates for silvers are higher than 7%?

>> No.13282074

>>13281995
Hoping for ATLEAST 10%.

15-20% would be better though.

>> No.13282131

>>13281995
>>13282074
Whoops, just checked, I think this is actually the only Gold Rush without Silver units. But on the bright side, they're higher drop rate Fairies instead. (Iron, Silver, and Gold).

The Gold Units are: Bella (Archer), Garret (Heavy Armor), Iris (Healer), Kerry (Valkyrie), Claire (Archer), Bernice (Heavy Armor), Cuterie (Affection Rogue), Conrad (Bandit), Fedora (Healer), Bulburous (Mage), and Betty (Gold Drop Rogue).

The main thing to look forward to here are Betty and Cuterie; as well as the Gold-Variante for any unit type you don't have Gold+ for.

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>>13282131
>Betty (Gold Drop Rogue).
Wait, whats the gold drop thing? Her skill seems regular assassinate

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>>13282131
11 Golds total actually.

Also, Bella and Claire aren't in the game right now, dunno what Nutaku plans to do. Bella is a loli, Claire is DFC.

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>>13282131
>Bulburous

>> No.13282187

>>13282177
Her Awakening Passive lets her get extra Gold (multiplied by the star bonus of 1.2x/1.5x) after each kill.

If you see those people who have like 20 mil gold saved up to try to get a Black from 2k Gacha, it's usually they have either her or Laila (Bandit with the same skill).

>> No.13282192

>>13282187
>20mil gold for 2k gacha
Is there a button to do like 100 rolls at once or something?

>> No.13282196

>>13282192
Not yet, soon though I hope. People just open up two browsers, and do something in the other browser during the Gacha animation.

>> No.13282210

>>13282196
Is there a way to speed up the animation, at least?

>> No.13282212

>>13282187
Doesn't the dwarf mage girl do that too?

>> No.13282219

>>13282187
As someone who loves 2k gacha, and gets plenty of silvers from it, I need her awakened when they put it in the game.
Shes only 50CC30 right now though but I've got to level her to max before they can be awakened right?

>> No.13282229

>>13282219
Yup, level 60.

>>13282212
There's a Bishop who does it, but I don't she's a dwarf, just brown.

>>13282210
Less lag. I find that the animation finishes in about half the time in the Nutaku version.

>> No.13282291

>>13282210
Not really, even CE's speed-up doesn't work.

(It's a great help in LOTV farming though. It takes just a couple seconds between loot window pops.)

>> No.13282337

>>13282229
I see now, the bishop girl increases your gold by 10% passively, don't even need to deploy her. That's why people take her along when making guide videos and don't use her.

She is a dwarf though.

>> No.13282368

>>13282337
Wrong Bishop Anon, that's a different Skill (that also boosts Gold, but in a different way). The one I'm talking about is Sun Priestess Patra, who has the same passive as Betty and Laila.

http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%C2%C0%CD%DB%BF%C0%B4%B1%A5%D1%A5%C8%A5%E9

>> No.13282529

Got my weekly exp armour, still no clue on what to level next
>>13271212 This is roughly what I have, minus a few changes

>> No.13282620

>>13282529
in general you want
a cc50+ armor with defense skill
a cc50+ healer with something that will boost healing power.
a cc40 archer
a cc40 witch
a cc40 mage
a cc40 soldier.

50+ for more important units, 40 to drop off at where it starts taking a bunch off exp.

Once you get those, you'll want a strong, cheap single block unit. Such as a valkyrie, rogue, or bandit. Female required, choose the one with attack boost from affection. Get them to cc40 too. You'll also want a second healer. This one can stop at cc40.

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Anyone have any tips on Remnant Vanquish 2? I can't seem to survive the early rush.

>> No.13283066

>>13282979
Always having min cost bronze soldiers are a good way to deal with rush map like that.

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So Tsars only give me books... at least they are max level

>>13282979
i did it with 3 min cost bronce soldiers at lv30, 2 healers 1 HA and a mage

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>>13283108
One day I will be able to damage a Tsar.

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>>13283108
ya....better then getting the sword though.

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