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What is the first Visual Novel /jp/ read?
Why does /jp/ like them?

>> No.13255806

Snow Sakura.

It was okay, fucking your cousin was hot as fuck, gave me a fetish for incest.

>> No.13255807

>>13255761
I'm not a teenager anymore so I don't read them anymore.

>> No.13255814

>>13255761
No.

>> No.13255843

Planetarian.

I don't actually like VNs very much.

>> No.13255849

Hoshizora no Memoria

>> No.13255851

>>13255761
OP, what about you?

>> No.13255853

Dramatical Murder

It was pretty stupid but in a fun and convoluted way. I just wish there was an option to top or something.

>> No.13255873

>>13255761

Planetarian.

Yes, I like it very much.

>> No.13255934

>>13255761
pokemon

>> No.13256025

Tsukihime
I've always just enjoyed the stories, I don't particularly like VNs simply because they are VNs--I just happen to like the content.

>> No.13256314

Heart de Roomate.

Many tears were had in the true ending.

>> No.13256324

Let's Meow Meow, I think. Good times.

>> No.13256435

>>13256314
My 2nd VN (first was Private Nurse, actually). Wouldn't be that special to me now but goddamn that hit me hard back then. Especially when you consider what it says about the other endings.

>> No.13256494

Ever17

It was rather...fecal.

>> No.13256538

>>13256494
Is it because when you saw the girl get caught in the washing machine, you shat bricks?

>> No.13256585
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13256585

Strictly speaking, the first VN I ever read was Radical Dreamers. I thought it was just a wordy video game, though and thought nothing more of it.
Later, the first VN I read recognizing it for being a VN would be I'm Gonna Serve You 4. But I only treated that as a nukige fap game.
The first VN that I recognized and read as anything more than porn, and the one that actually made me consider the medium further would be Yume Miru Kusuri.

>> No.13256619

>>13256435
The other endings were pretty much first love-ish, weren't them? Since most of them leave each other after high school end (aside from maybe the teacher and the sister).

Quite a shame there's no option to fuck the trio de bitches.

>> No.13257102

>>13256314
That VN pissed me off so much I couldn't finish it.

>> No.13257105

>>13257102
What a shame.

>> No.13257280

Saya no Uta.

I generally only rush through VNs for the hentai.

>> No.13257325

First VN I read was Muv-Luv trilogy unless it counts as two separate ones? And Shikkoku no Sharnoth. I never see any threads on /jp/sie lately about either these days.

Kind of sad about that.

>> No.13257371

Dude
The first time I read tsukihime I was sick as fuck and really damn tired, so the game was all trippy and stuff
I even hallucinated another whole route and voice acting for the entire game

>> No.13257396

>>13255806
That was mine too. The chocolate thing was pretty hot.

>> No.13257404

>>13257396
I'm going to reread it again someday maybe next month.


Also the other routers were really bored, is there a sensei route?

>> No.13257458

>>13257404
I think there was. Or it might have just been her sister. It's been so long I don't remember.

>> No.13257519

The one I'm currently reading, Monobeno. It'll probably be my last one though. Pretty boring overall.

>> No.13261104

I think it was that drug vn with the bullied girl that a lot of people started out with

>> No.13262225

>>13255761
Ironically is the VN your pic is from : Muv-Luv series

>> No.13262276

YMK. In retrospect it's probably pretty shitty, but it made me feel things for the first time in years so it will always hold a very special place in my heart.

>> No.13262286

Planetarian.
I like cute girls.

>> No.13265560
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>>13262225
Can you please explain to me how that is Ironic?

>> No.13265573

Hmmmmm, 3 Sister's Story I believe.

What was that one with the tree that grants the guy perfect luck? And he can either use it to make all the girls sex slaves or he can kill it to find true love. Could've been that one.

>> No.13265662

Season of the Sakura.

Got to fuck Rei.

>> No.13265697

Wanko no Kurasou.
It was very strange.

>> No.13265787

>>13265697

Same here.

I kinda liked it, actually. Sure there was a lot of stuff that was really strange, including the "they need to be cummed inside of" sex, but... I dunno, I found the whole companionship part of it really endearing.

>> No.13265810

>>13265787
Yeah, it was kind of cute. Through I was learning English when I was reading it, so at first I couldn't understand a damn thing.
I think that's the first time I read "cum", and it confused me a lot at first.
Plus they look like little girls, and are dogs. I was very confused.

In the end, I said "fuck it" and I skipped the porn parts.

>> No.13265852

>>13265810
That's a very strange "fuck it".

>> No.13265870

>>13265852
When your first experience with hentai is about dogs that look like little girl and you're not sure if it makes you a pedophile or a bestiality lover, you usually skip what annoys you.

Through compared to other VNs I read later, that one was sub-par.

>> No.13265882

>>13265870
Well, I never skip the porn but then again I start with a normal highschool VN.

>> No.13265900

>>13265882
>normal
>VN
One of these things is not like the others~
One of these things does not belong~

>> No.13265911

>>13265900
Well, I was the Heart de Roomate guy and it wasn't over the top or anything, no killer, robot or alien or fantastical beasts.

>> No.13265920

>>13265911
>no killer
Meh.
VN are awesome for mystery genre, since it's possible to play with the sound and the image to scare the viewer.

Without using jumpscare, of course. These are cheaps.

>> No.13265932

>>13265920
Well, I agree.

I like mystery VN, action VN (basically chuuni), but I started with a normal title.

>> No.13266938

>>13265932
VNs don't really work for action scenes, since it's still an unmoving support.

>> No.13266941

>>13255761
"/jp/ is not a single person.
Why didn't you just lurk for at least a day to find out? You did not even manage to navigate to the VN threads.

>> No.13266944

>>13266938
It works for me, the combination of images and descriptions are cooler than actual animation.

>> No.13266947

>>13266941
He navigated to the VN board just fine

>> No.13266965

>>13266944
Dunno, I read Fate/Stay Night and the action scenes were just bad for me.
On top of being full of bullshit, deus ex machinas and totally unpredictable ("SABER IS BEST CLASS, EXCEPT WHEN ASSASSIN IS AROUND"), they were basically just pictures with swords clashing.
I hated them.

>> No.13267000

>>13266941
>/jp/ is not a single person.
He was asking the people who post in /jp/.

>Why didn't you just lurk for at least a day to find out?
You could lurk here twenty-four hours a day for a whole year and not know what VNs the people currently browsing started on.

>> No.13267006

>>13267000
>answering the kid
Stop feeding it, fool.

>> No.13267009

>>13267006
Somewhere out there there may be poor souls dumb enough to think what he said might be right.

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>>13267009
People believing that 4chan is filled with mind readers? Egawd, the horror!
Better get my tinfoil hat.

>> No.13267016

Discipline.
It awakened some things in me.

>> No.13267023

>>13267016
What is it about? Give moar details for your poor brothers that haven't played many VNs.

>> No.13267024

>>13267023
Please type like a non-retard when posting in /jp/.

>> No.13267027

>>13267024
>>13266941
Hi angry friend :)
How's your anus? Still ravaged from that pounding from earlier?

>> No.13267029

>>13267027
It was a polite request. Incidentally, I'm >>13267000, not >>13266941.

>> No.13267031

>>13266965
>On top of being full of bullshit, deus ex machinas and totally unpredictable
But this is just what you're expecting with a story based around legendary heroes.
Have you ever read mythology? Pulling out a bullshit legendary artifact/ability to win the day is par for the course.

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>>13267023
It's a nukige, so plot is pretty light and generic.

In short, you move into a new school, and stay in an all girls dorm with three other chicks, all horny.
At the school, a blonde sadist called Leona is this wealthy girl who pretty much rules the school, and she personally picks you to be her uh, slave I suppose.
The "plot" of the game is that you and some others decide to rebel against this Leona character.
It's really just sex scenes taped together, with some pretty nice fetishes, and really nice character designs and art.

>> No.13267038

I've never read a visual novel

>> No.13267039

>>13266965
Then those particular action scenes and plot developments were not successful or effective in your reading. It is fine to share your experiences, but it is not judicious to generalize this experience to such a broad claim.

>>13267027
You are the cancer, actually; but you knew that already.

>> No.13267047

>>13267029
>>13267039
>being this butthurt
Grow up, kid, and stop samefagging.

>> No.13267070

>>13267038
I thought this comment was insightful, informative and incredibly thought provoking. It made me question myself, the world and even what OP asked in the first place. It pushed the edges of what a comment should be, setting a new standard for comments to follow generations from now. Bravo Anonymous. Bravo.

>> No.13267073

>>13267070
As was yours buddy.

>> No.13267076

>>13267070
10/10 you totally and beautifully explained why wasting a post to add an egotistical statement not contributing to the thread is, well, a waste of a post.

>>13267073
You totally enlightened him with your childish reenactement of the old "NO U" meme. You convinced me that you are a long time poster here and therefore only have useful informations to share.

>> No.13267078

>>13267076
Thanks man, that means a lot to me.

>> No.13267110

We are struggling together!

>> No.13267114

This is the reason why most VN general users don't post outside. Almost all VN threads outside it are filled with braindead idiots.
Also my first title was Saya no Uta. It was good.

>> No.13267166

>>13257519
This genuinly interest me. Monobeno is not translated. Are you native Japanese? Or did you learn Japanese for other purpouses than reading visual novels? If so what are you doing on this board? Is this board so segregated with all the general threads that you actually got interested in visual novels just recently glancing away from your usual thread? Sorry for so many questions, this post just really standed out for me, almost as some kind of mystery.

>> No.13267170

>>13267006
>>13267047
Whoa! Who are you quoting?! Are there invisible posts here?

>> No.13267173

>>13267170
Please don't act like a retard when posting in /jp/.

>> No.13267176

>>13267173
You can't stop me.

>> No.13267178 [DELETED] 

>>13267166
My second VN after Planetarian was Wasurenagusa to Eien no Shoujo. It happens.

>> No.13267181

>>13267166
My second VN after Planetarian was Wasurenagusa to Eien no Shoujo. It happens.

Incidentally I started learning Japanese because of Touhou Project.

>> No.13267184

>>13267035
Discipline is filled with references though, so it's actually a nice read.

I actually thought it's kind of humorous, like reading a Go Nagai's comedy story.

And the MC growing balls is nice.

>> No.13267186

>>13267173
Is English your native language?

>> No.13267200

>>13267166
Not him but I mostly post on VN general.
>Or did you learn Japanese for other purpouses than reading visual novels?
I like reading LNs, literature, and non-fiction stuff too (bought a few history books yesterday), but it was mostly for VNs.
> Is this board so segregated with all the general threads that you actually got interested in visual novels just recently glancing away from your usual thread?
I've been browsing VN General for a small time (2 years) and despite not caring about the state of the board like I did in the other years sometimes I just end up leaving it because of boredom or force of habit. I've met a few people through some VN circlejerks that only go to /jp/ for the VN general, and in the past browsed the board frequently, until 2011~2012, funnily enough, although I don't go to those places anymore.

>> No.13267202

>>13267200
He didn't ask you dude. Nice blog though.

>> No.13267203

>>13267202
Thanks.

>> No.13267210

Yume Kiru Kusuri or Let's Meow Meow I do not remember which one I read first.

>> No.13267215

>>13267186
Yes.

>> No.13267282

I really like mystery novels, but the only good one I got so far was Higurashi. I tried another one, Kara no Shoujo or something like that, it was boring.

>> No.13267292

>>13267282
Hard to find mystery novels that hit all the favorite notes, anon, good luck on your search.

>> No.13267317

>>13267292
True. Not to mention people have really specific tastes. Gore and jumpscares being of course shit.
The dream VN would be something like Sinister or Noroi : a paranormal investigation led by a guy who doesn't really know what he's doing and understands too late that he puts himself in shit. Without being too retarded.

Ha well, I can dream now, can I?

>> No.13267331

>>13267317
I actually like gore, so eh.

>> No.13267338

>>13267317
There are two detective mystery VNs made by elf on the ps1 but they're not translated.

>> No.13267346

>>13267331
I don't like gore because it's often, kinda like sex, used to cover up a half-baked plot.
Plus I literally can't stand it. I want to be spooked, not disgusted.

>>13267338
Dang it. Going by vndb, there are very few translated VNs anyway.

>> No.13267367

>>13267317
Sounds like something Rewrite should have been, too bad it trainwrecked, or rather they didn't even intend to go much in that direction(why even bother starting with it then).

>> No.13267376

>>13267346
Well, we disagree on many issues then, since I like my fucking and gore in my action/mystery visual novels.

Guess I'm a guy who likes to be shocked, and not just spooked.

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>>13267367
Sounds like a painful experience. You want to talk about it?

>>13267376
Bah. Fucking and gore are like kids : they don't add anything to the movie except high-pitched screams tearing your ears.
Seriously, 20 years ago, movies were about teenagers fucking each other and being murdered, now it's about women trying to save their retarded kids from the spooky scary skeleton.

Throw all that shit away and just ask your fucking neighbour what happened in your fucking house.

>> No.13267392

>>13267383
Well, I'm scared and fascinated by the Thing and the Fly so yeah.

>> No.13267401

>>13267392
That's not really gore.
I was more thinking of Suicide Club, Hostel, Grotesque, the Human Centipede, the Cabin in the Woods, and Suspiria.

>> No.13267402

Ero is really holding back eroge

The medium could be so much more

>> No.13267409

>>13267401
The Thing and the Fly were definitely gore anon.

And it's closer to the gore you find in VNs, especially with serial killer case with guts flying out and body mutation.

>> No.13267413

>>13267402
Please no and please go!!!

>> No.13267419

>>13267409
Guess I must be misusing the word then. I remember watching the Fly when I was young, it wasn't really shocking.
And then he crawled to her, grabbed the rifle, and pointed it at his own head ;_;

Never saw the Thing. All I know is that it ends badly.

>> No.13267426

>>13267419
Gore just means detailed bloody scenes so I guess you could be right.

VNs do focus less on huge amount of blood gushing out but the details of the monsters/wounds.

>> No.13267435

>>13267426
Depends. The one I tried to read and hated went deep in details about how the girls were tortured. Complete with Glascow smile. It was like I was reading Blood Red Rivers again, with all the details about how the poor sap went through hell.

>> No.13267444

>>13267435
Duh, that's one of the goody bits, it even makes sense if you are a detective, you gotta know how it went down.

>> No.13267449

>>13267444
Feels weird reading a text when you have the impression the author is masturbating to his own gorn.

>> No.13267452

>>13267449
Well, it is an eroge, masturbation does play a role in it.

I consider it flavor.

>> No.13267464

>>13267452
Not all VNs are eroge, Anon.
I thought we were talking about VNs.

>> No.13267473

>>13267452
For a movie equivalence it would be like trying to hide away the various forms of the Thing, they were awesome to look at, trying to hide that shit is missing the point.

The author/SFX team just shows the fruit of their work.

>> No.13267476

Swan Song.

I had originally seen VN's as moeshit and reading this gave me hope that there were more serious works.

>> No.13267478

>>13267464
Most of them are, I would be dumbfounded if the VN you are talking about isn't an eroge though, or at least an all ages version of an eroge.

>> No.13267479

>>13267473
Dunno, sometimes it's even scarier if you don't get a good look at it. Jaws became good because of that.

>> No.13267485

>>13267479
Really? Because the scariest part of jaws were the part when it shows itself.

Nowadays it does look a bit silly though.

>> No.13267489

>>13267485
>the scariest part of jaws were the part when it shows itself
Sorry mate, but that's an opinion you have here.
The scariest part is the very beginning. When it starts showing itself, the movie stops being spooky and starts being about action.

>> No.13267497

>>13267489
Oh well, we can have different opinions then.

Jaws was always a creature flick for me.

>> No.13267506

>>13267497
>Jaws was always a creature flick
Bitch give me your address and I'll slap you for having such bad opinion.
If I don't slap your shit, you'll start saying even more shit, like that Peter Cushing is a shit actor or that Donald Pleasence is a hack.

>> No.13267516

>>13267506
Well, it was a creature flick, one of the first summer blockbusters, I appreciate all the animatronics and shit.

Spielberg later went on making Jurassic Park using similar techniques.

>> No.13267525

>>13267516
Jurassic Park was different : he mixed animatronics and computer-made pictures.
That's why it aged better than Alien 3 did.

>> No.13267532

>>13267525
Well, the most stunning parts were all animatronics, even the CGI becomes noticeable nowadays.

But never mind all that, I don't want to derail this easy thread, perhaps you would better discuss this on /tv/.

>> No.13267541

>>13267532
Anyway, my point is : VN allows maximum spookiness, but so far most of them went for gore and bloody details instead of trying to be real spooky.
I'm not saying I want the Shalebridge Cradle, but I want something close.

And that's real sad.

>> No.13267549

>>13255761
Tsukihime

It got me hooked in, then i despaired as there were no other vn like that translated.

>> No.13267551

>>13255761
> ctrl + f
> no katawa shoujo
i'm proud of you /jp/
mine was shinigami no kiss

>> No.13267554

>>13267541
Well, good luck on your search for your maximum spook VN, anon.

>> No.13267560

>>13267549
I thought people usually translate chuuni VN like Tsukihime?

>> No.13267567

>>13267560
Well, FSN is kinda like Tsukihime, but is not the same.

>> No.13267573

>>13267567
Well, I prefer Kagetsu Tohya anyway.

Though if you like Tsukihime, I suggest playing Dividead, it's a classic, kinda sad that the translation was very sketchy as it went on.

>> No.13267584

>>13267573
Thanks, i'll check it out.

>> No.13267783

>>13267573
The Tsukihime fandisk? I read it, wasn't really convinced.

>> No.13267808

im reading fading hearts as i type this actually, its oel, so its not that great, but its decent i suppose

>> No.13267947
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True Remembrance

Damn, nobody else had this as their answer? It would pop up quite alot back then.

>> No.13268199

Fuka no Jugoku was my first. Yeah. I actually really liked it, unfortunately never found anything like it since.

>> No.13268256

>>13267551
Well now when I ctrl F katawa shoujo your post comes up
You ruined it.

>> No.13268625

>>13267184
Oh yeah, I definitely found it humorous, I was just saying it's hardly high brow literature.

>> No.13269007

I can't read.

>> No.13269016

>>13269007
Good one, it's nice to have your contribution to this discussion.

>> No.13269028

>>13269016

And it's nice of you to bump the thread with a pointless post.

>> No.13269033

>ctrl + f
>2 results for katawa shoujo
I want crossies to LEAVE

>> No.13269043

>>13269028
I'm fine with bumping the thread.

>> No.13269063

>>13269033
Nice arrows, crossie.

>> No.13269103

>>13269063
Calling someone a crossie means your a crossie, crossie. Real /jp/ers call them X-Boarders.

>> No.13269117

>>13269103
しまった

>> No.13269309

>>13267783
Tsukihime is more serious but I way prefer Kagetsu Tohya's structure as a game, as well as plot.
But you do have to play Tsukihime first to get all the context.

>> No.13269313

>>13269309
The loops man. The structure of Kagetsu Tohya is pretty much the only thing I didn't like about it.

>> No.13269321

>>13269313
I don't know man, that shit is very well designed.

>> No.13269390

>>13267560
>people usually translate chuuni VN like Tsukihime?
Uh most chuuni VNs don't get translated, Type-Moon is popular as fuck, almost everything they make gets a translation. And it doesn't need to be DI "hurr too hard to TL" level, 11Eyes and Fortissimo still aren't translated.

>> No.13269391

>>13269321
To elaborate: it allows all kind of branching shit that expands on the Tsukihime characters as well as the new plotline, and while you lose every time you follow the branch, you can always continue on to find the holes of the garden and finally break that shit apart.

The only way to really lose is to give up and not play anymore, and I find that interesting.

>> No.13269466

>>13269391
But then again, that is the philosophy behind most (single-player) vidya games.

>> No.13269968

Tsukihime in 2006.

Was good. Then Nasu stopped doing more of it and started milking Fate further instead.

Then he shat on his original work by hinting that he was making a remake, then showing it to horror of the public.

Then you ask yourself why do you care about TM anymore, they won't ever make a proper sequel...

>> No.13269981

>>13269968
At least the new remix main theme is good.

But yeah, I'm not holding my horse, Takeuchi's art just deviates too much from his 2000 one.

>> No.13269982

>>13269968
It's a shame because tsukihime's side is much more creative and interesting than Fate's worldbuilding.

>> No.13269991

>>13269968
I wish I was into otaku culture that early in ;_;

>> No.13270018

>>13255761
>What is the first Visual Novel /jp/ read?
Like all of /jp/ read the same first VN.

My first was Tsukihime, but only Arc's route. I then moved on to FSN though I plan on going back and finishing the other routes eventually.

>> No.13270021

>>13269991
Me too so I could learn japanese and make fun of everyone for not being able to read Muv Luv. I can only do that with Baldr Sky and Muramasa now.

>> No.13270022

>>13269982
Each to their own, I vastly prefer the later and disliked the Tsukihime side of the franchise probably why I actually prefer the new art. Although even I've got sick of the constant fate milking. Extra was just awful for that even if I liked the servants.

>> No.13271000

>>13270018
Really? Arc along with Ciel are very boring compared to the other heroines. Kohaku best.

>> No.13271453

i don't remember my first VN, i was like 10 and it was some H VN where the guy works as a sommelier at a restaurant and he seduces the proprietress

my fav VN is yu-no because i like a good story about raising a family

>> No.13271497

My first one was the first Majikoi. It was a good VN to start with, because the VA quality was high, and it taught me how shitty the translation scene is so I should start studying Japanese.

>> No.13273586

Technically Higurashi on the DS, but I was more or less anime only and played the vn out of pure fanboyism. My first real exploitation of vns began with mla and little busters because of their theme songs being all over niconico got me interested.

>> No.13273604

>>13271497
>It was a good VN to start with, because the VA quality was high

congratulations reading something full of seiyuu jokes that you didn't get, that's perfect for beginners

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