/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>13208612
2WT is fantastic. Definitely worth the money.
Not too sure about durability though since I don't have anything to compare to.

Is there any store where you can buy non-bootleg with touhou print?

Also I remember we had a pastebin on dakis long ago

>>13208612
I was actually thinking of buying that exact print.

I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to dakis, though.

>>13208612
Wanted to get a daki of Ryuuko but I didn't like this one very much.
I don't know if there are others of her around.

What is a good place to buy a daki? I checked amazon, and they seemed to have a good selection

>>13210704
maremaremaremaremaremaware~

>>13210770
hobbyheart is good but they are bootleg. They're cheap and the guy that runs the site is really nice.

>>13211391
Are bootleg really that much worse than official ones?

I found this and I can't stop laughing.

>>13208612
OP, it's peach skin, go for it!

is there a daki for best girl

>>13211572
It's in the OP you dummy.

>>13211391
Bootleg is fine I guess.

>>13211519
From the standpoint of the buyer, incorrect character names in item descriptions is just bad business. Such sellers need to at least put some amount of research into the (usually bootleg) product they're trying to sell. But they probably don't give two shits anyway as long as they get their coin.

>>13211578
too much edges for a pillow

>>13211453
Bootleg make his sound cheap and bad but usually bootleg dakimakura from good companies are on par or even better than their official one.

>>13214436
Interesting..

So what would be the price range of a nice quality bootleg that meets or exceeds licensed products?

>>13214491
Check out hobbyheart.

Do you know where to get some high-res uncensored pictures of dakimakuras? I cant find any good source...

I have there some pretty nice pictures, but they are censored or low res, so i would like to find better versions of these somewhere.

Any tips?

lel le lel

I've been looking for a daki but nothing that already exists is close enough to what I want.
I found this one which is close, and tried to see if I could contact whomever made it and ask them to draw another one the way I want.

The problem is I'm not entirely sure who to contact. From what I can tell slolita made this daki, as on aliexpress and taobao it's under their category.
In the details for the daki it says the artist is "elfuun", but I can't find anything on him/her at all.
It doesn't seem to be on their website (slolita.com - if that's even their official site since it looks only half complete) and the artists on there don't include this elfuun person.

So my question is, did slolita really make this?
And if so are they likely to respond to my request to make a custom one (I can pay)?

I've also tried to contact the official artist for this but he ignores all my emails so fuck that guy I'll get a bootleg if he doesn't want my money.

>>13215365
Actually, there is nothing funny about this. For example, try to find better version of this one which I have posted, if you can do that, laugh as you want.

I'm still looking for a non lewd Okuu dakimakura.

>>13215449
I'm looking for non-lewds in general, they're quite the uncommon, aren't they?

can someone explain to me how you use your daki?

I'm serious, I've seen a lot that I like, but then I think, it's not like I go to sleep with the lights on, so I won't be able to see the print if I hug it while I sleep, and there's no hole to fucking, so all you do is rub your penis against the print in the dark imagining it's actually your waifu? sounds really uncomfortable, like I'll get a sore dick, and even if I somehow manage to cum by rubbing my meat with a pillow it will all end up in a mess.

Or am I missing something? like you guys actually hug your giant pillow while you watch anime and go kissy kissy with it during the day?

>>13215657
are you trolling?
it's just comfortable to sleep with, you're not meant to masturbate on it or anything

>>13215725
I'm pretty sure it's considered a sex toy, I mean half of them have pictures of anime girls with their skirts lifted showing their pantys/genitals

>you will never have a non-lewd daki of your husbandu

>>13215738
there's nothing sexual about your pure waifu's naked body

>>13215657
What's the point in regular pillow or duvet cases. Dakis are no different than a regular silk/peachskin whatever cover you could get, but people want the pretty girls on to look at.

>>13215725
I had severe back pain a few years ago and was told to sleep the very same way your pic illustrates. Unfortunately I didn't have a dakimakura and had to rely on standard pillows to make up for it. Still don't have a daki but I'm really thinking about getting one. They look comfortable.

>>13215657
>can someone explain to me how you use your daki?
Did yours not come with a manual?

>>13215328
yande.re

>>13215478
That this why I commissioned my dakis picture.

>>13216064
how do you make people respond?
everybody I message ignores me

>>13215725
I watch anime with the dakimakura of my waifu. It's incredibly cozy and every man who truly loves their waifu should enjoy a series with her like this at least once.

>>13210770
Mandarake has a bunch. Yahoo auctions japan will have most popular ones at one time or another, but you'll need a proxy and you'll have to watch the site to see if your desired cover comes up. Hobbyheart has bootlegs of most official ones (usually cospa), and they have them available in any material (2WT being far better than the smooth knit cospa offers in my opinion). You can buy Chinese makers (some bootleg, some not) from ali express directly or alibaba if you can figure that site out. Achobby and slolita are two of the biggest chinese producers, and their covers are all original if that matters to you.

2WT is the gold standard and anything less is usually going to be reserved for cheap bootleggers or blu-ray bonuses and such. The quality of 2WT can vary between makers, though, so you'll have to find what you enjoy the most. I only have personal experience with slolita, hobbyheart, and p80. Slolita is good but feels like it stretches more in one way than the other, hobbyheart is probably the worst but isn't all that bad, and p80 is thick and cool to the touch. Your mileage may vary.

>>13216110
Thx, but I know about these all booru sites like yande.re, chan.sankakucomplex.com etc. and I know they are great for finding dakimakuras, but, there is the problem... Some of these dakimakuras I especially like are there just in low-res or censored.

So, im asking about some different sources, maybe some japanese sites? Or should I take it as "if its not uncensored or high-res on these booru sites, better versions just dont exist"?

I have even tryed iqdb search or reverse google image search, but still nothing...

>>13216064
Yay, sorry... The post above this one should be for you...

>>13216194
Most dakimakura creators don't put up high res images. That defeats the point. The only high res ones you're going to see are those which have been leaked or redrawn.

>>13216213
Hmm... Looks like I can just hope for redrawn... lol

>>13215449
They dont exist.

What are all the options for Japanese websites for making custom dakimakura?

>>13216850
I'm not aware of any Japanese sites that do that. Most people follow circles and purchase their offerings. These circles do large print runs with printers like A&J and p80, but they don't do single covers. I believe Achobby has a thing with one of their main artists (noodle) where you can pay them like $1000 and they'll do a custom daki, but otherwise it's up to you to find someone to commission. You can send the image they make to hobbyheart.

In all seriousness, the dakimakura subreddit is extremely helpful, mainly due to one guy who knows a whole lot about the industry. He's pretty biased against bootlegs on a moral basis, but other than that I recommend you check it out because you'll get a more complete answer there than almost anywhere else.

>>13216194
You can commission a daki from this guy here:

>http://kimmy77.deviantart.com/

>>13219672
A person from da who takes loli commissions?

>>13219718
Why don't you just ask him?

>>13219718
I can see non-ero illya daki, if that's loli enough for you

>>13215657
I walk around the house with mine and kiss him from time to time. Mostly just hugging in bed though.

>>13220036
>him

>>13210417
>Is there any store where you can buy non-bootleg with touhou print?
There are a lot of options, not sure you'll find something you like but give it a try.

There's the Dakemakura Koubou circle: http://www.dakemakura.com/touhoumokuji.html
Check the FAQ, they ship overseas and you can contact them in Engrish.

There's the Yumemiyasan circle: http://www.yumemiyasan.jp/%E6%9D%B1%E6%96%B9%E6%8A%B1%E3%81%8D%E6%9E%95%E3%82%AB%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC/
No Engrish but they ship overseas.

There's the Chinese slolita circle: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Original-160x50cm/718061_257231001/2.html
A few Touhou original designs, some are very nice. They usually have Ver. 1 and Ver. 2 for each one, the latter with less clothes on.

There's some available for preorder on Toranoana: http://www.toranoana.jp/mailorder/cit/genre/4/657_01.html
Though the only one I like (and own) is the ReimuxMarisa one drawn by K2isu.

There are 267 available right now on Mandarake: https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/
Search for 東方 抱き枕. You may find some hidden gem you like.

>>13215777
They are, anon. Get one.

>>13223259
do slolita reply in engrish or do custom designs?

>>13223501
I don't have first hand experience, sorry. But I recall some anon saying they speak English, you can contact them through Facebook. Don't know about custom, it's worth a try. Good luck and please post your results, if you don't mind.

>>13224557
but I don't have facebook do any of us?

>>13215657
>like you guys actually hug your giant pillow while you watch anime and go kissy kissy with it during the day?

What, do you not go kissy kissy with your waifu while watching anime? Fucking weirdo.

I would suggest buy from hobbyheart.com, their 2 way tricot is even better than what i got from Japan years ago. I have commissioned an artist and use their custom print service, so, it is not bootleg anyway. http://www.hobbyheart.com/custom-made-dakimakura-hugging-body-pillow-cover-p-6.html

>>13215376
>>13224557
Slolita, Achobby and similar sites have artists doing oc commissions for them and if you want to get your own custom from the same people.. i'd say its going to cost you upwards of 500$ and a couple of weeks. They also have a lot of work going on so it might be impossible.

That being said i can only recommend those two places if you like the art. 2WT materials are absolutely fantastic. I've used buychina as a proxy and it has worked brilliantly for the last 6 times. If you want to order straight from say slolita you need a way to pay them directly, which means you basicly need Alipay.

>>13232435
Forgot to add, that the price i quoted was something i vaguely remember from an older topic on the same thing. You might want to ask elsewhere.

>>13232435
That's fine, I'm willing to pay $500+ to get something I want from a good artist, since I'm too picky to go for any daki that currently exists.

I have read in one of these threads that noodle typically charges $2-3k for a daki and it takes 45 days (and she already has a 6 month backlog). So I'm hoping not all of the artists are that busy and expensive.

>>13215657
>normies

>>13232469
Those figures sound more realistic. Damn i would love to have a custom daki drawn by Noodle. Luckily she has made some very nice Miku covers which are the ones that matte to me.

>>13232713
Well the noodle dakis are usually 4 or 5 "sides", which would justify the higher price to some extent. So only requesting 2 sides would reduce the amount of time and effort required. Hopefully that means what I want won't be $2k...

>>13219672
Also heard that Mai is soon going to open comissions for dakimakuras:

>http://maiscore.tumblr.com/

>>13223259
Thanks for this post, it's very informative, and I see a design I've been looking for on Yumemiyasan.

Do you have idea about the different qualities of fabric there? Translate seems kinda vague. What's 2-way fabric? What's "Highest quality" supposed to be made out of?

>>13240386
I haven't bought anything there yet. Anyway Satin is usually the worst one, not stretchable, Smooth knit is one-way stretchable and 2way fabric is probably 2way tricot, as the name implies it's stretchable in both directions. It's usually considered the best one. Other manufacturers also sell "improved" versions of 2WT, called Roica, Lycra and so on, which should be even softer. So maybe "Highest quality" means something similar.

I suggest getting either a 2way or a Highest quality 2way, price difference is small anyway. Even if 2WT is the most fragile fabric, it's the smoothest, softest and most comfortable.

What design do you like, if you don't mind me asking? I like the Nue and Kagerou ones. Shinmyoumaru looks interesting too, even if it's still a rough sketch.

>>13219672
I commissioned a daki from this guy and literally a day later I found out my waifu is getting an official one in July. It's also cospa, which means I'll have to buy a bootleg if I want 2WT. Fuck my life.

>>13240436
The Ran one. It'd be my first and probably only pillow. I've been considering a Ran-daki for awhile, but most of the designs I see out there are way too lewd, drawn in a style I don't like, or have minor details wrong like giving her blue eyes or making her skin too dark.

>>13240436
Is there a big difference between smooth knit and 2WT?

>>13240561
I have a Smooth Knit from a Taiwan circle and a 2WT from a different one, though the latter is still packed, I haven't used it yet. At a first glance the difference is not that much, definitely more than between satin and smooth since smooth is still stretchable.

>>13240561
I ordered one of both types from yumemiyasan back in December. The 2WT is noticeably smoother, but more given to stretch.

Fast shipping too, they actually shipped on Christmas day.

>>13244190
Was the print quality the same. It looks like the smooth knit had hard contrast/bolder colors.

>>13208612
fuck you nigger

>>13240436
About Satin.. its the way to go if you like to go all in and rough. Its basically immune to scratches and cuts. 2WT would be destroyed by the same treatment. Satin is also really cold at first touch so its not for cold winters or you'll have to approach slowly. 2WT doesnt give that shock if you jump right in.

Post your waifu/husbando

>>13244930

>>13244932

>>13244938

>>13232713
>>13232440
>>13232435
just heard back from slolita, they're not doing custom dakis for foreigners at the moment at least they responded, unlike all the japanese artists I've contacted so far

>>13244435
It doesn't, I just forgot to level the second scan. Sorry.

Will leg hair damage my daki?

>>13247247
>not joining the sissy trend like everyone else

I have this preordered. It'll be my second one.

>>13247247
If its your avarage lenght i wouldnt worry about it too much. If you shave and it grows back just a little after that, then it just ruins shit (2WT atleast).

>>13223259
>There's the Chinese slolita circle: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Original-160x50cm/718061_257231001/2.html

Ordered pic from here 5 days ago and it is still being processed. How long does it usually take to send it?

How stretchy is two way?

>>13250524
Pretty stretchy?

Has anyone had a custom one commissioned? Who did you commission? Also, post results. I'm thinking of commissioning one at some point to replace the one I already have.

>>13244930
Here's an old pic from a bad angle taken with a shitty camera.

>>13251026
Fuck, forgot pic

>>13251038
I cringed.

>>13251606
I know right? You can just tell that dogs a secondary because they can't play video games or read.

>>13251038
That can't be healthy for the cover. Do dogs knead like cats?

>>13251038
Nice dog, dude.

>>13244930
>waifu/husbando
Please stop. Especially if you're going to post two different girls. Fuck you.

>>13251808
Those... those are the same girl.

What's the correct message for storing the cover when not in use?

Should I roll it up? Fold it like how it was originally packaged?

>>13251823
but the hair color and stuff? am i blind?

a-anyway stop saying "waifu" and "husbando"! it sounds stupid!

>>13251932
Waifu is cute, anon; husbando not so much.
I love my waifu!

>>13251946
>Waifu is cute, anon
I can't not associate with a joke at this point. Not sure if it was ever not a joke. it looks ugly and it sounds even worse when cool people irl think its a good idea to verbalize it. it isn't.

I call my girl "嫁さん" or "嫁ちゃん" or something to that extent. sometimes just "wife." usually i refer to her by name. this is online of course. irl i don't talk about this shit to people, last of all anyone who uses the word "waifu" in real-life convos.

>>13252043
I can assure you you'd never hear me utter the word "waifu" in real life, anon; it is rather silly sounding when you pronounce it aloud. Online, however, I think it's sorta fun.

>>13252066
>I think it's sorta fun.
totally my issue with it tbh ("no fun allowed", etc.). a guy at an older job of mine made a really funny "waifu diss rap" and wanted me to hear it. really ate me up inside. those are the people i associate with the word "waifu" online and off. people who think anime shit is funny because it's geeky and foreign--the same people who think that "senpai" meme is funny.

i just hate to see people laughing it off like it's just a joke (not really, but maybe, kinda-sorta). /a/'s "waifu threads" are really painful for me. people picking up and ditching girls season by season by season. i can't stand that. that and normal, socially well-adjusted people who use it to refer to their "favorite character" or some other bullshit. it's like somehow its trivial and ironic usage undermines how i feel, at least, it does if i also use the term as one of endearment. so i don't. I think she deserves better than that. i think all "waifus" do.

stop. or don't. do you. but i really do wish people would stop throwing it around. sorry for the awful blogpost. i'll stop now.

>>13252220
No need to apologize, anon. I can see that you're truly passionate about your... 2D love - if that's more appropriate?

By the way, that guy you used to work with - he sounds like a huge fucking faggot.

>>13252220
I understand what you are feeling, friend.

Basically, the mass and often-ironic usage of "waifu" makes us 2D lovers look stupid.

>>13252488
>that guy you used to work with - he sounds like a huge fucking faggot.
he was a nice guy at heart, but i hated that shit about him. as a "hilarious joke" he snuck a miku dakimakura into his friend's room on his birthday. i don't understand why that's funny. they wasted a good 80 bucks on a "joke." and what does that say about me, a guy who seriously sleeps with a dakimakura?

they're like...normie microaggressions or something. as if something like that--owning a pillow or loving a character, couldn't be done sincerely.

>2D love
I don't really like making a distinction between "3D" and "2D" love. you love who and what you love, no helping that. but i understand the practical need for that.

>>13252502
I'm glad to see that the one place i've seen "get this" is /jp/. it's like everywhere i go people have their little chuckles and winks and nods talking ironic anime shit like "your waifu a shit", "best waifu this season", etc. it's erased the space where people who actually love 2D characters can inhabit. because so many people treat it like a joke, most will assume you're joking, or half-joking, or whatever. i think a lot of these people actually DO love some of these characters, but they probably feel embarrassed so "waifu" is a nice way of shielding themselves from criticism via irony. but language is powerful. i don't think i can become really close to someone i love if i maintain an ironic detachment.

so i don't know. i just avoid all those places and stick here. i'm glad /jp/ is still a space for people who feel this way, regardless of how it's changed over the years.

>>13252220

>>13252620
>Twitter
>Crunchyroll
What do you expect, anon? All the normie faggots stream anime and have a Twitter account. Crunchyroll needs to appeal to the masses, and the masses are mostly casuals.

>>13252606
Sasuga normies.

I don't think I'd be able to tolerate that guy, honestly. You're quite the trooper.

>>13250145
Can't speak for experience, but I believe they keep an on-demand business model. So they are going to print your cover after you placed the order, such circles can take up to 3 weeks before shipping out. Just have some patience, anon.

>>13252620
>>13252628
holy HELL fuck crunchyroll forevr.

>>13252606
Well this certainly blew out of proportions and i do apologize. I agree that the term waifu is a bit downgrading and i did have "girls" typed out, but changed it at the last minute. Personally i try not to use the term anywhere else (excluding this time duh).

Otherwise good choice of words. I share your opinion on this girl per season mentality and all that bs. I can safely say this will not be the case with me, since she is and will be, my first and only.

>as a "hilarious joke" he snuck a miku dakimakura into his friend's room on his birthday.

This would have been the best present ever ;_;

Anyone know where to buy 150cm by 50cm pillows in the US? Since they use imperial rather than metric here, all the body pillows I've seen here end up measuring 139cm by 51cm.

>>13253611
Make your own?

>>13252220
I can relate to all of this. I have a waifu, and I really hate the "wacky japan
/waifu means female character" shit that it's now associated with.

What kind of pillow do you normally stuff your daki with? Cheap puffy ones? Luxurious down pillows? Are you worried about feathers coming out and poking the case?

>>13252220
/a/'s "waifu threads" are really painful for me
There are actual waifu threads full of dedicated anons, but there are a lot of dumb normies using it wrong.

>>13252220
I understand you and agree with you.
Luckily I never met anyone like that, through I knew a guy who used to say "lol" and "roflmao" in real time.

>>13253653
That's exactly what I ended up doing, although I might take some out as the feet look swollen. I wanted one mostly to have the inner pillowcase in the right size since right now I've simply stuffed the rest of the pillow with polyester fill.

>>13252220
Dunno. I always consider "waifu" to be nothing but a meme.
Picture related, here's what happen when an autist really believes that a 2D character exists.

>>13253730
Then you might not understand it.

It's exactly like Pygmalion in Greek mythology, the love for ideal and not giving a fuck about what bitches think.

>>13253736
>Then you might not understand it.
Probably, yeah. I mean, there are touhous I really like, but I wouldn't call them waifus, even ironically. And like the other guy earlier, when I hear people using that word, I imagine an overweight loser infatuated with anime and video games and living in his parents' basement.
Like in that picture I uploaded.

>>13253676
A&J Feel Smooth 1600x500 and DHR600. I'd say these are pretty much the top of the line. Had to get DHR600 via a proxy from amazon.jp. Its actually a bit tall for my taste atm but otherwise very nice . Feel Smooth is a bit worn after many years but its been great. Would have gotten one but couldn't find the 1600mm ones anymore.

>>13253742
Dude in your pic doesn't look fat to me, but whatever, your mental projection of the appearance of 2D lovers/admirers do not concern me.

>>13253745
Admirers are okay. Lovers are scary.
You know what other people are in love with a fictional character?

Terrorists and bigots.

>>13253263
>This would have been the best present ever ;_;
He got ripped off on some cheapo bootleg shit anyway. apparently the guy's "waifu" was some character from sword art online or something. just awful on every level there.

>>13253673
>>13253677
>>13253700
might i recommend simply changing the language? it's hard because online people will get confused if you simply use "wife." i don't know what they use in japan, but maybe "kanojo" or something to that extent. or maybe preface "wife" with "2D-". or, perhaps best of all, just call her by her name--maybe a step closer to acknowledging her as "real."

i think a year or two ago i complained about this same issue on here, but i didn't have any solutions. now that things have gotten worse, here i am, at it again. idk, there are tons of nice things you can call someone you love.

>>13253746
Sound euphoric, m8.

But whatever, lovers will keep on loving.

>>13253751
>might i recommend simply changing the language?
Do as you want. I'm not interested in dakimakuras, so I'll just leave.

>>13253751
Just say the name of the character you like.

No need for any word, just I like said character/I love said character, and that's enough.

>>13253730
>Dunno. I always consider "waifu" to be nothing but a meme.
That's precisely why i don't use it if i want my feelings for the girl i love to be taken seriously.

i can go into detail about how "real" and "not real" are irrelevant, and pretty much arbitrary. how you construct meaning has little to do with tangibility. but i think the important point is that feelings do not discriminate between real and virtual stimuli. you're /supposed/ to feel for characters in fiction--that's kind of the point. am i too invested? probably. but who cares. i don't feel that way towards "real" girls. i can't help it.

you can't go into people's hearts and minds so you will never know the "real" person with regards to 3D people anyway. in my eyes, it's all just a collection of images and symbols. as >>13253736 said, it's something to do with the "ideal" which 2D chars are simply better at capturing.

>>13253773
>i can go into detail about how "real" and "not real" are irrelevant
I'm sure that's what "insane" means.

>>13253777
>I'm sure that's what "insane" means.
nah. no more insane than people who believe in abstract things like money or god or authority or whatever.

>>13253785
Anon, 2D girls are abstract too.

>>13253788
Delicious goat, I want to eat it.

>>13253788
yeah, that's what i'm saying dude. all personal meaning is derived from abstractions, not tangible things. why a guy loves his 3d wife is probably not much different from why a guy loves his 2d wife. they admire certain traits in the other. and it's not like you can help how you feel. it's the same shit as far as i'm concerned.

>>13253798
>why a guy loves his 3d wife is probably not much different from why a guy loves his 2d wife
Bullshit.
3D wife poops and throw tanthrums.

>>13253801
hey, don't forget about the money involved. dakimakura + cover is what, 150-200 bucks tops. ridiculously cheap compared to a gf yo.

>>13253788
God fucking damn it, my family's right outside of my door and I'm going to have to ravage my onahole now.

Less goats, more dakis please.

Demanding more goats.

How long does it take for the colours fade, assuming nonbootleg 2WT daki?

Waifufags are fine, adjusted people.

Totally fine.

>>13254179
>>13254181
Pls don't bully 2D lovers...

Especially poor Chad, he's getting buttfuck in prison right now.

>>13254188
>Chad
I meant Thad*

>>13254192
Which one is Tchad? The gook or the nigger?

>>13254194
Well, you can look at the picture you are posting and find out yourself.

>>13254179
>>13254181
These always seem like some public performance or poor role playing.

>>13254196
I cringed enough for a month. I'm not looking at them again. In fact, I'll hide my own posts, erase them from my computer, and run a disk cleaning.

>>13254198
Hmm, so you save them, post them but don't look at them.

Never mind then, anyway, pls don't bully 2D lovers.

>>13254200
You skipped the word "again", newfriend.

>>13254204
My sentiment remains the same.

>>13254020
Really havent noticed any fading in a couple of years. I dont machine wash them tho.

>>13208612
4/10 waifu would not be subjugated by

>>13252606
I have to say that although I think 2D love is dumb, I have no problem with people who are in 2D love, and I completely agree with the general feeling of what you've said re: people diminishing and mocking something very important to you. That's also why I love /jp/ so much -- a special place where you don't get bullied just because you take something seriously. The jay is authentic, the jay is real. No one has to feign detached disinterest in everything. Here, our passions are genuine. The popularization of irony is awful.

>>13254775
She looks like Seija, she's not that bad.

>>13254188
thad isn't tru dude, he's a 3d lover. he bragged about jerkin it to cp.

but my real issue is that he took the time to set shit up just to take pictures like that. he's an attentionwhore at heart.

>>13254020
keep them out of sunlight and don't machine wash, or at least machine wash on the most delicate setting. i have some that are a few years old and the colors are still quite vibrant. just take care of her.

>>13254718
how often do you wash? i've been going for a good 8 months on some of these without any washing and that kind of worries me, but i shower before bed every night and use a little bit of fabreeze here and there. i don't notice anything gross so far.

>>13255355
>on the most delicate setting
That's exactly what I was worried about. The washing machine in my apartment is from the late eighties. There is no delicate setting.

>>13255497
I'm sure you could find some more modern ones at a laundromat.

>>13255497
in that case, just hand wash her. coldest water you have with a little detergent. let it soak a bit and use a brush to spot clean.

>2000+5+4+3+2+1
>not giving your waifu a romantic bath

It's like you don't even love her. Pic related is how I treat my beloved. This is how a waifu should be washed.

>>13255779
>no results on reverse image search
You've reached next-level waifuism.

>>13255779
who are you quoting?

Hey, so I want to get a lewd dakimakura, but I live in Australia so I'm pretty worried. So does anyone have any experience importing NSFW goods to Australia? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

>>13255779
Very nice

>>13255779
I love how the expression on that print matches the expression a pillow might give you for treating it like a romantic partner, were it actually a sentient being.

>youcan'tbeserious.2wt

>>13254197
it's because they are

>>13256639
The Australian Customs website bans the import of anything that "includes publications, films, computer games and any other goods that describe, depict, express or otherwise deal with matters of sex, drug misuse or addiction, crime cruelty, violence, terrorist acts or revolting or abhorrent phenomena in such a way that they offend against the standards of morality, decency and propriety generally accepted by reasonable adults."

You should be able to get your item as long as the seller doesn't declare the dakimakura as a "pillow with sexually explicit Japanese cartoon art" on it. Check with the seller you're talking to, or order a local print shop to make one for you.

>>13259895
I'm buying from Amazon so I wonder if "I thought Amazon, a multi-billion reputable international company, doesn't deal with illegal stuff!" will work if shit hits the fan...

I've had onaholes pass through before, but they aren't really the same case I guess.

>>13260878
Onaholes "deal with matters of sex". I can't imagine customs letting a masturbator through but not a pillow.

I was rubbing my daki and now she's all covered in lint. Is this normal or is she wearing away?

>>13264900
Remove lint using a lintbrush. Post results.

Those of you who have multiple dakimakuras of your waifu-how do you choose which one to sleep with?

Do you just sleep with all of them?

Do you save certain ones for certain occasions?

>>13270228
I usually sleep with one until she needs to be washed and then I switch out (I only have two).

For people with a one sided daki, do you like to sleep with her face to face or with her facing away like you're the big spoon

For people with a two sided daki, how do you choose which side to have on which side

Put a daki on the front of my speakers.

>>13271197
So how do you feel about the new Legendary Dragons cards?

>>13270228
I try to switch about once a week. Some are too sexy and soft which i rotate more often. Makes it harder not to bust a nut.

>>13271067
I usually decide the side before putting her on the pillow because of the pillows form. Lewd side is usually down.

>>13271185
>censored

What's the point?

>>13271320
This is a Christian board. I would take the cardboard censor bars off it it wasn't.

What are the options for getting custom printed dakimakura? I'm looking for a Japanese site to do it from, nothing Chinese.

>>13271185

>>13271385
pls don't post leedit pic on /jp/

The pillow I got is way too soft. what do?

>>13250145
They take a while

>>13271185
Fucking richfag!

>>13270228
Have them on rotation. it's kind of a pain to switch them out so i'll stick with one for about half a year. each one has a particular charm.

>>13271185
You destroyed your cover just to do some stupid shit. barf.

>>13271363
iirc there's one--an old one. i can't remember what it was though. I just remember they had a lot of custom eva covers.

MFW I cant have a Misaki Nakahara Dakimakura

>trying to order a custom made is anybody has the full size of these pictures?
>http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10060362a/20/1

>>13274361
Goddamn, I fucking hate ESLs.

>>13274579
and who is the biggest spacewaster? a guy who wrote a text with faults or you shitposting absolutely nothing?

>>13274617
Damn, dude, calm down...

>>13274645
I got butthurt from sleepless night seeking for the right dakimakura

>>13244930

on related note, how often do you guys change cover? Monthly? Biannually? Never (eww)?

And how? dry-clean?

>>13280583
I wash her delicately by hand (>>13255779), and run the inner through my washing machine. The inner she has is a Sealy Down Alternative Extra Long Body Pillow.

I like the volume of the inner after washing, but after a few nights of snuggling/high impact sexual violence it gets "flat" and needs fluffing. If any anons can recommend a better inner, I'm all ears.

What inners do you all have?

>>13281094
dhr6000

>>13281094
I'm a poorfag who stuffs mine with two king pillows.

>>13255541
I'm not going in there. No way. I remember how those places were from when I was a child. Half the machines take your money and don't work, and the other half work, but require additional cycles and coin to finish the job. What a hellish place. It's probably the same way today.

>>13255563
This is preferable.

>>13281775
So your waifu has a "waist" then? Are you saving up for a conventional inner, or are you happy with the two kings?

Daki owners–do you live alone, or with someone? Has the person you live with raised any questions about your daki?

>>13281896
It's actually not very noticeable feeling-wise, and actually allows for certain positions that wouldn't work otherwise.

If you look closely you can see it though and that kind of bothers me. I might just make my own inner sometime with stuffing. I'd say I'm happy for now.

>>13281896
Live with my family and my dad found out about it. Now they just stay out of my room. Guess they were just thankful I wasnt gay.

>>13281896
living alone. I have plain cover for when normal guests are coming

Question for Canadians.

I want to get a loli cover, would I be able to find any at any cons? I imagine that I may be able to find one or two there. I am going to anime north this year with 2 other friends and I plan to buy as much loli merch as I can find.

>>13251038
awwooo~

>>13281896
I have two roommates. One of them watches anime but they are both pretty normalfag. They don't really give a fuck though.

>>13281896
I live alone, but when I still lived with my parents neither of them cared. My father even offered to clean them for me.

I need a daki for pic related. Havn't been able to find a good one.

>>13292516
You don't like the official one?

>>13292610
I want her to look at me with a smug satistic step-on-dick face

>>13284603
No idea my daki had no problems shipping here but she doesn't look young. As long as the shipper doesn't care about shipping one to Canada I don't think customs will look through it or at least didn't for mine.

>>13292516

What's the best internal stuffing you can get for your daki in burgerstan? I'd like to get something with the perfect dimensions but most American pillows are not correctly sized, I keep seeing them be slightly short which causes the feet to not fill out correctly. I'll order an official COSPA pillow if I must but I'd rather not get destroyed by shipping.

>>13297006

>>13281094 here. You're not going to find a good inner in a brick and mortar store. I checked Bed Bath and Beyond, all the department stores near me, Anna's Linens, and every other place near me under the sun that sells pillows. I recommend buying online from Amazon.

>>13292633
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2062770

>>13297006
If you need to import from Japan, don't bother with a COSPA but get an A&J DHR6000. Everyone who owns it says it's on another level than COSPA (I still don't have it but I'm tempted), so if you really need to spend some money get the best.
It ships in a vacuum bag and folded to fit in a rather slim box (check here http://gate-japan.co.jp/dakimakura/dhr6000.html)), so the weight will be your only shipping cost concern. Buy it here http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00CFG0B3I (search for the 6001 if you need 150cm), forward it through JSS and ship to you with surface mail. This will set you back 2900 yen (or 3450 if you're unlucky) for shipping plus 500 yen for JSS fee. Only downside you'll have to wait 2 months for it to arrive. Or spend more (5000 yen, I'd say) and ship as a SAL Parcel, takes 2 weeks.

Then report here. You know, for science.

>>13297386
Note that installing non-2wt (less stretchy material) is going to be painful with dhr6000.

>>13299324
Good to know, thanks. I'm planning on getting the new cover from Sayori, and since it's in Lyctron I believe it deserves the best filling out there.
For the record, how durable is the DHR6000 against hugging and squeezing and humping? How flat does it get over time?

>>13299324
Good to know, thanks. I'm planning on getting the new pic related cover from Sayori, and since it's in Lyctron I believe it deserves the best filling out there. Speaking of which, has anyone any experience buying from Nekoworks' Booth shop? Do they ban any proxy?

For the record, how durable is the DHR6000 against hugging and squeezing and humping? How flat does it get over time?

>>13300121
Mine has gotten a little flat from the middle but nothing serious. I think its bound to happen anyway. Dont know if any pillow can stay in shape for years that's also smooth at the same time.

>>13297386
I used Amazon and Big in Japan. Service was really fast but for an item this size.. i had to pay around 7k yen for EMS to europe. Didn't really matter at this point anymore.

>>13299324
Absolutely this. No room for satin or basicly anything non 2wt.

>>13300121
Seriously doubt they have anything against proxies. Probably wouldn't even have time to check if the buyer is one.

Also you might want to check with a proxy that does all the shopping related things for you. You would need to have an address from the proxy first and you would have to pay it with some obscure way. I have used yokattaweb.jp couple of times(Yahoo bidding,GIFT online shop) and they will even go to Comiket and get shit for you. (60k yen for train tickets etc.. but they will do it) Just link them the daki and they will get back to you with the price.

>>13300121
stop

>>13300150
Thanks. I rest my head on a latex foam pillow, that's the best, extremely springy and durable. I have always thought of using such material for a daki, but no one makes latex pillows so large. Well, I have already made a custom filling for my actual daki, so I'm not scared of trying again. I need to experiment a little. For science, of course.

>>13300215
Sadly some Japanese shops do check and cancel orders if they see a known proxy address. Or so I heard. I'm not new to forwarding, luckily hasn't happened to me (yet).

>>13300241
Why? Something I need to know? Aside from my wallet crying?

>>13300517
This is a blue board.

>>13300714
>>13300121
Whooops. Sorry. Sleep deprivation has some side effects. Can't delete the old one, so I'll just wait for a janny to kick it into oblivion.

I need a better Daki of Saya. I've found another good one that I can't post her and wouldn't want on my bed because it's too lewd.

>>13300934
>>13292516
>>13215376
Why don't you ask these guys?

>>13219672
>>13234364

>>13301254
Ooh, that's a really good point anon I'm gonna check their prices right now

>>13234364
I took the plunge and made a daki commission to Mai. Are there any good places to get that design printed on a pillowcase?

>>13305969
I think a lot of people use hobbyheart's print option. The quality of their 2wt is decent and it's fairly easy/cheap.

>>13307122
Thanks for the advice.

Using a phone while wrapped around a daki is comfy as fuck.

I've been looking for a Dio daki (any version) but all I can find to date is Diego. Does anyone know any actual Dio ones, or do I have to go through a commissioner?

Are there any non-bootleg Haganai dakimakura? I want to cuddle Sena.

my dakimakura

>>13307765
Why would you ever want Dio when Speedwagon exists?

>>13307840
Strange question... of course there are, there's no bootleg without an original one to rip off.

Anyway there's just one available on Mandarake, pic related: http://ekizo.mandarake.co.jp/shop/ja/item_s-931297.html

Otherwise check some of the existing ones on the following databases:
http://myfigurecollection.net/search.php?character=Kashiwazaki+Sena&type=Dakimakura+Cover
http://埋もれる抱き枕er.jp/?s=%E6%9F%8F%E5%B4%8E+%E6%98%9F%E5%A5%88
And good luck finding one for sale. Try Yahoo Auctions, but use some common sense to dodge bootlegs: http://auctions.search.yahoo.co.jp/search?p=%E6%9F%8F%E5%B4%8E+%E6%98%9F%E5%A5%88+%E6%8A%B1%E3%81%8D%E6%9E%95

This is my only daki so far

Does anyone know where I can buy non lewd Yayoi or Iori?

>>13308188
Speedweed is not a sexy vampire.

4 Okuu daki guy, are you in here? Can you post that picutre of all of them on the bed?

I'm looking at a daki and it comes in either:
50x150cm
50x160cm

I'm thinking I need to go with 50x150? I can't even find 160cm pillows from any US retailer.

>>13308873
Here you go. I still want more of them. Thinking about getting this one and having another custom one printed, but im afraid of having it stolen from the vendor.

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=49670503

>>13308902
That one would be lovely. I'd say go for it

>>13308886
I don't know what you're asking here. If it comes in both, I'm willing to bet it's a bootleg. If that's the case, just do whatever's convenient.

>>13308873
I want to see this too.

>>13308965
It's from the circles own website, Yumemiyasan, right in this post >>13223259

>>13308902
tfw noone sells non lewd okuu dakis

Where can I get a high quality custom dakmakura? I really want A+B1

>>13308978
Weird, I guess they're one of the few circles that prints on demand. Either way, just get whichever one you can get that fits. Most Japanese circles use 160, but 150 used to be more common and is still used by cospa and other official releases.

>>13309011
Why would you need a custom? You can buy the original from the circle: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-Shipping-Japanese-Anime-Dakimakura-160-50cm-Hugging-Hug-Pillow-Case-Peach-Skin-Body-Size-Cushion/718061_1288190490.html
I heard their 2WT is quite good.

>>13308886
If you think of getting other ones in the future, especially from other circles, consider getting 160cm. That's because almost all doujin circles have switched from 150 to 160, so you will need only one inner stuffing to fit all covers.

>>13307765
With the lack of response I shall assume there is no Dio body pillow off the top of anyone's head. Too bad.

So where is a good place to get a custom?

>>13309753
I'm almost sure there must be one. Dio is really popular.

I'm having a hard time finding a daki of my waifu, Chie.

You guys know if I can find one without having to result to ordering a custom?

Every time I see someone mention a "waifu" I get an autism spasm. It's ridiculous to see how a joke on /a/ when it was not the present shithole went this far.

>>13310582
Every time I see someone claim that waifu has always been a joke I get an autism spasm. It's ridiculous to see how the normalfaggotry and bullying on /a/ which has always been the present shithole went this far.

I have a DHR4000. Is there any reason to upgrade?

>>13307213
I agree with that and recently I've found wearing stockings while hugging feels amazing.

Kuroneko being a gurl gamer Xd

>>13310582
Same. That's why I don't use the term; I call mine "wife" instead. We're legally married under the law and all that too!

>>13315969
Where do you live? For clarity, are you married to a 2D girl, or are you fucking with us?

2good2betrue

>>13312202
LOL EPIC XD

>>13316551
Maybe it's a common-law marriage.

>>13215746
I feel ya.
Where should I even find a good artist who does male dakis? All the stuff in the archives seems to be dead.

Even if my husbando did have existing daki art, I'd want one custom made anyway.

I want a nice daki of Nui but there is none...

>>13307765
Sup anon

>>13317304
Not much.

Also, why aren't there more of these types of daki art?

>>13317304
Please, tell me where you got such a beautiful thing.

>>13318718
Had a pick-up service get it for me at a doujin event a couple of years ago. I've never seen it for sale since so I wish you all the best in finding your own.
Here is the circle who made it by the way
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=1059512

>>13316712
>>13308981
>>13310170
>>13317088
Just ask these guys to make a custom.
>>13219672
>>13234364

>>13308902
I actually commissioned 6 daki of my beloved, when I'll print them I'll do a picture like yours.

>>13208612
Ryuko is the best waifu of Kill la Kill.

#1 Ryuko
#2 Nonon
(power gap)
#3 Maiko
#4 Hakodate
#5 Rei
(power gap)
[the rest]
(huge power gap)
#worst-3 Mako
#worst-2 Ragyo
#worst-1 Nui
#worst-0 Satsuki

>>13244930
Miku is my waifu

>>13270228
I keep them in different houses.

>>13281094
I've bought my both inners at local tailor. One is 150x50cm with small weight and is OK but 155x55 with over 2kg feels much better.

>>13281896
With a roommate. At some point I've explained him whole waifu thing and hi was pretty much ok with it.

>>13307213
It's even better when you play breathing sounds and hug your daki.

>>13320392
They don't do non-trappy male ones.

How often do you guys wash your dakis and how do you wash them?

Also how do you get sweat stains out of them?

>>13321333
Every 2 months. I put her in water with lavender-scented fabric softener for over 30 min and then twist it dry and hang it.

I don't get any sweat stains.

I wish I could buy a daki, but I can't. It's not a money issue, I've got more money than I know what to do with. My taste in 2D girls changes far too often. 2 weeks ago, I was obsessed w/ Tsukasa Hiiragi from Lucky Star. Now I'm already onto Shiraishi Urara from Yamada-kun to 7-nin no majo.

>>13224564
>do any of us?
Unfortunately. Fucking English class in college forced me to make one. 3 more weeks, anon-kun...we all gonna make it.

>>13322744
>English class in college forced me
Not English class, but another professor forced me too. The fuck is with colleges thinking Facebook is good for classes?

>>13323976
It encourages more student participation than some specific site like canvas or piazza. Look on the bright site, you could have something that sucks and no one uses like G+. We're using that in my networking class for some awful reason.

>>13326603
>>13323976
>networking class
>English class in college forced me to make one
Those don't exist in real colleges I'm afraid. Reconsider your degrees.

>>13326603
>encourages more student participation
Yeah, I don't think so.

I thought dostoevsky was trying to say that human existence is inherently painful and bad in chapter 5....

>>13322744
As a brokeanon with a waifu of 2 years, fuck you.

>>13322744
>>13323976
>>13326603
I made a throwaway facebook account for my classes last year. I shitposted on the wall and got a bunch of people to hate me, then some girl said to another one of my friends that I was funny.
I haven't joined any of the pages this year and I no longer use the account. It's stupid; they (the class representatives) say 'If you don't have a facebook account just let us know and we'll email you', but are they really going to do anything? No.

>>13327010
wOw a girl on fb thinks your funny? You must be pretty funny, looking bck on your post it was really good and funnier than I originally thought.

>>13326603
>more student participation
It just gives morons one more thing to "like", and more things to circle jerk over unproductively, if I remember how Facebook worked.

>>13251038
That is so damn hot.

>want a custom daki because the official one is out of character and makes my waifu look like fap bait
>I hate the art of every artist in my price range
Why even live. Are there any good artists on Pixiv or something? I'm a filthy EOP but I'd be able to string together a short message to an artist.

>>13329698
How do you feel about this?

>>13329864
How about a cute historical figure?

>>13251038
I swear I've seen that couch before and called it Yume Nikki-esque years ago. Is that a new image of it? That pic doesn't show up on the archives.

I'm thinking of getting my first dakimakura, but I'm somewhat of a poorfag and was wondering how much of a fabric quality gap there is between official sellers / hobbyheart (which according to a lot of annons here is considered decent) and other retailers that sell them cheaper.

These two listings, for example:
slolita: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Anime-Dakimakura-slolita-original-animation-High-Quality-pillow-Oshino-Shinobu/1834278309.html
other cheaper seller: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-Anime-Dakimakura-Hugging-Pillow-Case-Ghostory-Oshino-Shinobu-Pillow-Cover-Peach-Skin-Size-150/1998857167.html

The 2nd one is fairly cheaper, but also received positive feedback. Is it worth the risk ?

>>13320474
Such shit taste.

>>13331602
The first one you linked is the original creator of that one. In fact their dakimakura listings only comprises their original, legit designs.
The second one, on the other hand, is simply ripping off the first. In fact they list many more dakis for sale, all of them printed from pics stolen here and there.

I can't say anything about the difference in printing/fabric quality, but I wouldn't take the risk. It's simply not worth it to give money to a ripoff guy. Get the slolita one.

>>13331602
I personally wouldn't cheap out over such a small difference. If one were 200+ on aftermarket or something, I could see it, but slolita is really cheap anyway.

That said, slolita's 2WT isn't all that great and it feels different in one direction than the other. I'd put it at the same tier as hobbyheart, which is the worst I've had (though I've only tried about ~4 different makers). I'm not sure how much worse you could get with the same material type. Just so you know, hobbyheart isn't an official seller. I don't think any of their designs are their own.

>>13332416
I think he realizes that. He was asking about official sellers versus "other retailers".

>>13332424
I can see that hobbyheart sells mostly bootleg stuff, but I thought that at least the quality was acceptable.

Other than cheapness, another reason why I was considering the rip-off seller was that slolita seems to only print in 160x50cm - meaning the inner stuffing I get would also need to be the same size. Hobbyheart though on the other hand prints only 150x50cm and in case I consider getting a daki from them in the future I'll also need to buy another inner pillow to go with it, which frankly I don't think I can afford.

On another note, how much worse is Peach Skin compared to 2WT?

>>13332781
>I thought that at least the quality was acceptable.
Oh, it's definitely acceptable. My first daki was from hobbyheart and even after getting ones from slolita, p80 and A&J I still like sleeping with it. It's just generally not as nice.

>Other than cheapness, another reason why I was considering the rip-off seller was that slolita seems to only print in 160x50cm
I bought a pillow from royal pillow which is a little tight on hobbyheart and fairly loose on other makers. It's really not so bad, so if you're going to get one, I'd go with that. They're only around $60 shipped or so. You should know that most makers are 160cm these days, though. The only major exceptions are cospa, bootleggers, and maybe a few other official releases.

>On another note, how much worse is Peach Skin compared to 2WT?
Terrible. It's on another level, don't buy it. It is more durable, I guess. I'd personally rather buy multiple copies of the same 2WT for longevity than use peach skin, though.

>>13332933
So there's a chance the 160cm pillow can fit in a 150cm case? I don't live in the USA and I assume royal pillow won't ship worldwide, especially without additional shipping cost, so I was thinking of buying the inner pillow from slolita as well for $65.

>>13332991
Hm, I dunno. That might be bad for the pillow or just straight up not fit.

>>13332781
>>13208612
It's you're waifu, anons. A girl that special does not come around frequently.

Spring for the 2-way tricot. She'll thank you and you'll thank you.

Any Tamamo dakis out there?

AWWW YISS!! I knew I'll find a relevant thread there somewhere.

So, I need to know, can I find clean dakimakura arts somewhere? The one I need specifically is Evening Call's Rin. This one http://www.tentaclearmada.com/2012/03/dakimakura-review-rin-tohsaka-from-fatestay-night-nsfw/
Can you help me?

>>13339651
Get the fuck out of here, you immense faggot.

http://marmaladica.deviantart.com/art/Commissions-info-OPEN-526710640
Apparently he's doing daki commission as well.

>>13232753
lol retards paying 2k for the most generic fucking artstyle

if you get a daki it needs to have brushed pastel art, not adobe flash 1 season korean drawn anime style.

>>13341452
Examples?

>>13320474
Too bad she got an awful shitty daki.

>>13253611
http://www.royalpillow.com/body-pillows.asp

Get the medium cluster fiber, affordable and just as good as anything you'd import. Probably the best option for anyone living in the US.

>>13343320
Do you have one yourself? I was actually planning on getting the durasoft one, what makes the cluster fiber better/more similar to an imported pillow?

>>13341452
don't talk shit on noodle, cunt.

>>13310591
>Every time I see someone claim that waifu has always been a joke I get an autism spasm.
If it wasn't always a joke, it certainly is now.

join the "wife" master race. or what, are you afraid people might actually confuse her for a "real" wife? in that case, you don't deserve her.

>>13318718
cool tumblr gif bro

>>13343678
>it certainly is now.
I still call the girl I'm in love with my waifu, it's just how I am. Plus, I don't think I've known her long enough yet for me to start calling her my wife.

>>13281094
I want to wash mine, but how in the world do I do it. Do I run hot or warm water? How do I let her dry without fading? Should put her in the drying machine?

If I could have link to a step by step tutorial, that would be great.

>>13343598
Not him, but I have one of the cluster fiber ones. I only own one body pillow, but I've tried a bunch of pillows. Importing a pillow really won't offer you anything special, there isn't any nippon pillow folded 1000 times fluffier than anything out there. The advantage of cluster fiber is that is squishes in a more uniform way, and is more resilient to changes in shape. With a "Durasoft" pillow (Actually just standard polyester) it will squish with different strength in different areas, and won't push back as well. This means it feels less soft and fluffy. Down is amazing, but I wouldn't like it in a body pillow, and anything sub 100% down is pointless, so it will be super expensive. The cluster fiber has fit every cover I put on it, has lasted just fine for a year and a half now, and is super comfortable.

>>13343687
>Plus, I don't think I've known her long enough yet for me to start calling her my wife.
then why not "girlfriend"? you would rather resort to a term people literally use as a joke online? do you also think it's acceptable to call your beloved "bitch" facetiously?

we've already been over this in this thread. i suggest you clean up your language if you want to be serious.

>>13343691
Cold water is better, use a gentle cycle on your washing machine or hand wash (use warm water here because cold sucks to hand wash in). Do not put it in the dryer under any circumstances. Hang it up on a towel rack or something similar to let it air dry.

>>13343704
Getting militant because someone calls his (What the fuck are we using now? Significant other?) his waifu is stupid. Yes, it has become memetic. Yes, people won't know what you mean when you use it online. However, it is silly to focus on the word itself. Words have no meaning, people give words meaning. It doesn't matter what he calls his waifu as long as his intent is pure. There is no need to "clean up his language". Desperately trying to separate yourself from (We really need a dictionary for this shit. What do we call the "Haha nerd culture so cool" people? Neo-normies?) is merely a mirrored type of conformity. By refusing anything associated with the thing you hate, you allow it to control you by letting it corrupt the things you care about.

tl;dr
Call your waifu whatever you think conveys your feelings in the best way. There is no "right" or "wrong".

tl;tl;dr
Don't think, feel.

>>13343738
>Words have no meaning, people give words meaning.
that means words have meaning! you're contradicting yourself.

words alone are enough to prime certain thoughts or frames of thinking (it goes both ways). but this means that if you use words with certain connotations and you may find yourself thinking and feeling in line with those.

>Call your waifu whatever you think conveys your feelings in the best way.
yes, and i'm arguing that using such a term makes it more difficult to keep it "pure." the word itself is loaded. thus, the analogy to the use of the term "bitch", which in some contexts is one of endearment, but i'm asking if it's even necessary to use it at all? plenty of words work better. if you want to talk about meaning and words, use the best word to convey your meaning (in this case, your feelings)--so, why use a joke term instead of any other that would serve as a more apt symbol (like her name for instance)?

it's merely a suggestion. i can't force people to change. but the way i see it. there's no purpose in clinging to a meme term other than the fact that you aren't actually serious about it and need the ironic detachment offered by such an ambiguous joke-term.

words will always conform to the contexts they're involved in. intention doesn't matter in the slightest. this is clearly seen with missing sarcasm/irony online. as a result there are both practical and personal reasons for not using "waifu." once i dropped that shit term, no one gets it twisted, least of all /myself/.

this isn't me trying to be "different" or contrarian. it's the result of me literally trying to do what you're saying to do (i.e., conveying my feelings in the best possible way). i don't think i can do that by using "waifu," and frankly, i don't think others can either.

but whatever, continue to use your meme term. it's not my relationship to speak for.

>>13343704
>you would rather resort to a term people literally use as a joke online?
I'm not "resorting" to anything, because I've always associated the term with a fictional character you have strong romantic feelings for. Why would you imply I'd ever dream about calling my waifu a "bitch" as a term of endearment just because I refer to her as my waifu?
>>13343793
>there's no purpose in clinging to a meme term other than the fact that you aren't actually serious about it and need the ironic detachment offered by such an ambiguous joke-term.
The purpose is that I've always used that word, and I don't see why I should change how I think because it's not "pure". You're acting as though you speak for everyone with a waifu, and you don't. I know that I'm not just some normalfag using the term as a joke, so why should it matter? I'm not married to her, so it seems strange to call her my wife. Just because you don't take me seriously for not conforming to your standards doesn't mean my love is any less real.

>>13343793
>intention doesn't matter in the slightest.

I don't think you understood my post. Intention is literally the only thing that matters, hence "Words have no meaning, people give words meaning."

I would be more sympathetic to your point of view if waifu hadn't meant what we want it to mean in the first place. Calling it a "joke term" or "meme term" is facetious, its word that people continue to use to describe their love, (I'm not using "people" to dissociate my argument from myself, I legitimately have no waifu)

Using an analogies is a crutch for when you can't justify your argument in relation to the actual subject. "Waifu" has no relation to "Bitch". One is usually intended as a term of endearment, the other is intended as an insult. HOWEVER, this does not mean that waifu cannot be used as an insult, and bitch cannot be used as a term of endearment. This relates to the point I made previously, there is no set meaning for any word.

>It's not my relationship to speak for.
> i suggest you clean up your language if you want to be serious.

This is exactly what you were trying to do, get someone to conform to your limited view of the definition of the word.

>>13343839
"waifu" is literally a joke. it comes from azumanga daioh.

i'm advocating nothing more than semantic clarity, which i believe will lead to emotional clarity.

>You're acting as though you speak for everyone with a waifu, and you don't.
it's just my own feelings, but i feel them very strongly. so sorry if it feels like i'm getting all up in your shit.

>>13343854
>Intention is literally the only thing that matters
no no no. see, because intention is fundamentally ambiguous. words mean in relation to /other words/, not through intention. and with repetition they gain their connotations. decontextualized, your intention means absolutely nothing. even within context, words still have strong associative properties.

> Calling it a "joke term" or "meme term" is facetious, its word that people continue to use to describe their love
exception to the rule. seriously.

>Using an analogies is a crutch for when you can't justify your argument in relation to the actual subject.
off the top of my head so it wasn't too great, it's an example of a word that you can argue "works", but that there isn't much of an argument for when you consider the connotations.

>This is exactly what you were trying to do, get someone to conform to your limited view of the definition of the word.
I can't stop him for obvious reasons. i can only voice my thoughts on the matter, but it's going to come out negative because i hate the fucking term. i'm trying to express WHY i think it's such a shitty term.

it's funny that you call my view "limited" when you're simply going the other way. if you acknowledge that the term can be ambiguous (i.e. that it can mean many different things, some negative), then you would agree that using more neutral words makes it easier to express the emotions or thoughts or whatevers associated. of course, this only works if you agree with this view of semiotics. from your whole thing on intention, i don't think this is going to go anywhere.

>>13343938
>"waifu" is literally a joke. it comes from azumanga daioh.
Again, you're acting like anyone who uses it is a newfag retard normie.
>sorry if it feels like i'm getting all up in your shit.
>if it feels
>STOP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING YOU DON'T REALLY LOVE HER IF YOU DON'T HOLD MY BELIEFS
Come on, nigger. Although I appreciate the apology.

>>13343938
oh. also, i guess i should say that words themselves are fundamentally ambiguous, which is why intention is ambiguous. intention is read through the meaning of words. so it's not what's "behind" the words that matter, but the word combinations themselves that matter.

so if i wrote something like "fuck you" you would probably take offense to that unless i told you i was just kidding or something. the words "just kidding" express the intention. alone, the intention is lost or is ambiguous. does that make sense?

likewise if someone says "waifu" i'll naturally assume they're joking because i've mostly only ever encountered people using it as a joke. i know some people AREN'T joking, which for them, i encourage the use of some other word so that it's a little easier to make it clear, but also because i think that doing so clears up our own thoughts and emotions. this is what i've come up with after reading research on shit like priming and propositional networks or whatever. the words we use influence the way we think/feel and vice versa. so, like i said, if you want to be "serious", you should clean up the language you use to express things.

i hope that makes things clearer. i wanna get away from this feeling like i'm shitting on people and getting shit on in return. i still don't really understand why someone would defend the term so strongly. what makes the term more useful than the ones already practically and symbolically tied to what you're looking for, like "wife"?

>>13343938
>Decontextualized, your intention means absolutely nothing.

Thanks for pointing out the importance of context, but that doesn't prove anything. It may be a bit crude, but lets look at the word nigger. It exists in a state of limbo, it is simultaneously a term of endearment and a racial slur. With your view of an absolute definition of a word, this would be impossible. If I angrily called a black person a nigger, in a situation where it was intended as an insult, they would be justifiably quite angry. Yet, that same person could be quite fine with one of there friends calling them a nigger, in the same day even. What makes this possible is intention. They were angry when I insulted them BECAUSE I was intending it as an insult. However, they were fine with it in friendly company, because no harm was meant. Another example of this would be the way fag is used on 4chan.

>You would agree that using more neutral words makes it easier to express the emotions or thoughts or whatevers associated.

Its pretty difficult to argue about the communication in this context, as there isn't actually any taking place. Unfortunately, the entire interaction is something internalized. However, this means the best word for the occasion is the one you feel is best, as you are fundamentally the only party involved in interpretation.

I would go into how hatred of a word is irrational, but that is entirely based on valuing intention as the most important factor in communication. It's actually been really interesting to talk to someone who's views are fundamentally opposite from yours, and you've made some good points. However, because this case is so special, and because of the aforementioned issue with you being the only party involved with interpretation, I would definitively say that in this case, intent is the only thing that matters, as there can be no misunderstanding.

>>13344011
Practicality and symbolism have little to do with it, as do other people's opinions. I feel similarly towards waifuism (again someone PLEASE make some sort of /jp/ dictionary) as people used to feel towards religion. It should be something deeply personal, and not something to be shared. What other people think and feel should at no point enter into it. If you feel that waifu is the best term, then for you, it undeniably is. Similarly, if you feel wife, bitch, girlfriend, kanojo, or any other term is the best, than it undeniably is. Waifuism is entirely based around personal opinion, so there is no way to for some aspect of it to be "bad" or "wrong" just as there is no way for it to be "good" or "correct". It exists outside "normal space" (I might just try to make a dictionary myself) so words of comparison don't apply. It simply is, and thats fine.

>>13344040
>It should be something deeply personal, and not something to be shared.
Not him. While I agree that it should be something personal, I disagree that it shouldn't be shared. I feel so strongly for my waifu that I want to scream it from the rooftops, and talking about her with other like-minded people is a good way to deal with those feelings. I understand why you'd be against it, because I'm aware that I do the same thing myself sometimes, but discussing and sharing your love isn't a bad thing inherently.

>>13344009
>Again, you're acting like anyone who uses it is a newfag retard normie.
only from experience. and the longer we go, the more this will be the case. look in the thread for examples. or on some crunchyroll shit. or in /a/'s fantastic "waifu threads." it's to a point where i can no longer disassociate it.

>>13344012
>it is simultaneously a term of endearment
woah dude, come on. "nigga" is the term of endearment, and even then, when it's used by the wrong people it will be taken as insult regardless of intention. it has a long, long history. it's also perfect as an example for illustrating what i mean. there are some people that advocate for the complete elimination of the word--that's how strongly they feel about it. intention, again, means nothing here.

>the entire interaction is something internalized. However, this means the best word for the occasion is the one you feel is best
"the best for you" is something i completely agree with. but this is why i encourage something else. because it can be hard to disassociate the term from its connotation, it wouldn't be "the best".

like, would you call your black buddy "nigger" endearingly or would you just call him "buddy" or some shit? both could (arguably) mean the same, but one is more practically useful. and from what i've read, the latter would be better for your thinking and such. i mean, to call him "nigger"/"nigga" is to implicitly refer to his skin color and historical power relations, racism, etc. it's...problematic. even if it isn't intended it can draw up ugly things.

>>13344040
>It exists outside "normal space"
something i fundamentally disagree with. we're always tied to contexts. we're associative. and symbolism is of utmost importance because that refers to "her". what you use may influence how you feel. philosophy shit aside, here's some psychological shit that illustrates the power of words in and of themselves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priming_%28psychology%29

>>13344055
That makes a lot of sense, and is perfectly fine. I guess I was speaking more towards a more fundamental part of it. Like any relationship, there are parts of it that shouldn't be shared. It wasn't my intention to imply that it was something to be hidden away.

>>13344068
I post in /a/'s waifu threads, almost everyone in them is serious about their love.

>>13344075
maybe things have changed cause when i used to frequent /a/ it was nothing but waifu shit-talking and flavor-of-the-month shit. there were a few serious guys. one moved to tohno-chan.

this is probably confirmation bias on both of our accounts. but i can tell you that in real life, not a single person who has ever used "waifu" (verbalized it) has used it in a sincere manner.

>>13344068
It really is very interesting just how different we are. I'd like to get into this a bit more, but this isn't really the place, and the character limit is starting to get annoying, so I'll try to keep it to "waifu" specifically. I agree with your point on how we associate words, but for many many people waifu is still associated with its original intent. For them, there is absolutely no reason to change. Even if the word waifu becomes butchered by society to be point where it is almost unrecognizable, as long as their beliefs remain the same, there will be no reason to change. The post Crunchyroll made is almost physically revolting, simply because they have no idea what the word means, and are using something that was originally intended as a declaration of love to promote blind consumerism. However, I don't think this damages the word in any way. If I saw a post on /jp/ where an anon said he loved his waifu, I wouldn't be disgusted, because I can still believe his feelings are pure. I admit to some difficulty with this, more and more people ignorant of the definition of the word are using it every day, and at some point it will be hard to recognize those who still believe. Anonymous imageboards make communication of intent much more difficult, so in this case, it would be beneficial to adhere to your beliefs, and assign absolute meanings to words.

I'm going to say pretty much all of you can see where our hobby is going. "Otaku" culture is quickly becoming popular. Crunchyroll is making dough, RWBY, SAO, and Attack on Titan have all achieved normal appeal. We're going the way of "nerd culture" and there isn't much, if anything we can do to stop it. That isn't any reason to give up though. We're still here, and we still have time left. Accepting the word "waifu" as corrupted beyond use is the same as abandoning those who still believe it stands for something.

Really really pleased that I managed to get my hands on this, I've wanted it for a long time and Toranoana sold out within a few hours of putting preorders up. The daki collection grows stronger.

>>13344143
>as their beliefs remain the same, there will be no reason to change
Well on that level i think there's no problem with that. if that's what they want to use, cool. not my job to get into someone's personal life. but in that case, they would probably just use the girl's name.

i think in a practical sense, it would be better to use something else. i mean, i can't tell when someone is using it in jest or in all seriousness. for the most part i've always seen it as something tentative--that there's a measure of separation, but that's because that's how I'VE personally used it. i used it back when i thought maybe it would be silly to give up on something "real" so it was kind of a joke. i was really stupid. and so the word in it's current misappropriation and my own use colors it very all very ugly. i don't really care what people use in the end as long as the feelings are the same. this has been more of a personal effort than anything. but i've gotten closer to my wife as a result. maybe others might be in the same situation and might benefit from that little shift in symbolic orientation, from "waifu" to proper "wife." i don't want to be a "husbando." i want to be a proper husband, or something like it, if even a little.

>assign absolute meanings to words.
in the end, i just don't want someone using it poorly at the expense of some girl. it's weird to say that, but it's how i feel. so i hope to eliminate the doubts and ambiguity for each other and for ourselves by just shifting the language. not to an "absolute" meaning (you can still take "wife" as some absurd joke), just in a less ambiguous one.

>I'm going to say pretty much all of you can see where our hobby is going. "Otaku" culture is quickly becoming popular.
been going this way since the 90s. there was a little room for doubt with the death of big localizers/distributors. but now there's really no escaping it. hopefully it'll die like other trends.

>>13244938
Thanks for reminding me that I have these two ordered.

>>13343320
Will this fit a 150x50 cover?

>>13348163
Yes, it's more or less a perfect fit for 150 covers. 160s will be a little loose but it's doable.

>>13344718
I ordered Chocola (don't like enough the other one) forwarding it to BiJ. It's my first time buying on booth.pm, I hope I didn't fuck up. What forwarding/proxy did you use, if I may ask?