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Aigis update April 3rd with new event.

Last thread: >>13208390

Lord of Valkyrie:
http://www.nutaku.net/games/lord-of-valkyrie/play/

Millennium War Aigis:
http://www.nutaku.net/games/millennium-war-aigis/play/

Lord of Valkyrie links:
>English wiki:
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Lord_of_Valkyrie_Wiki
>Japanese wiki:
http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/
>/jp/ player list:
http://pastebin.com/URgv8JPA
>Grind table by an anon:
http://imgur.com/y90G0cS

Millennium War Aigis links:
>Newbie guide:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=603000&postcount=3643
>Japanese ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24452
>English ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=26860
>Japanese Wiki #1:
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/
>Japanese Wiki #2:
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/
>English Wiki, though it's got nothing on it
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Millennium_War_Aigis_Wiki
>XP chart
http://i.imgur.com/okVV7hJ.png
>Vid anon's channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkAJz5hSVU_zaF0EqLiCKkg
>Event map on Vid anon's channel:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZOlWUpDBQm1BsVs-7YNcvCln2M5Kh_5w
>Info about White Witch Bellinda
http://pastebin.com/U3eWnmeG

Miscellaneous links:
>Staff Twitter:
https://twitter.com/nutakugames

>> No.13237975 [DELETED] 

Required strength for explorations and their rewards:

English Wiki:
>http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Exploration
JP Wiki:
>http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c4%b4%ba%ba%c0%ef%c3%c4

>> No.13237981

Required strength for explorations and their rewards:

>English Wiki:
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Exploration
>Japanese Wiki:
http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c4%b4%ba%ba%c0%ef%c3%c4

>> No.13237993

Reckon they'll add Evilspirit Hell Loki and the others to the lottery miles like they did with the others, I'm awful at deciding what to level but I want more of this card (also at lvl 45 its almost my best card)
Strongly considering buying the 2 copys you can get.

>> No.13238063

>>13237953
i know but i pretty much leave 1% or 2% so no chance for others to get assist, this way more people can hit

>> No.13238066

>>13237993
you can buy the 3000pts one more than once

>> No.13238079

>>13238066
You shouldn't of told me that.

>> No.13238224

>>13237960
Why the hell did you put infos about an event who's already finished?

Here, infos about the future event :

Units to get, cost, etc.: http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%ce%b5%bf%cd%a4%ce%bf%af%b9%b6%b9%b6%ce%ac

Vid of the last map in order to know what units to raise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcPvXDHXaeg

>> No.13238252

>>13238224
Well shit. I forgot to remove that part.

>> No.13238289

>>13238224
whats up with the cowtits advisor?

>> No.13238366

>>13238289
Her art has been changed several times over the course of the game.

>> No.13238367

Does anyone know if the new aegis event is going to have as shit a drop rate on the silver units as the first one?

>> No.13238396

>>13238367
Yes. It's a trial event, so the drop rates are usually especially shit.

>>13237833
Were you here for the Rorone Event? Apparently the drop rate on Platinum Armors for one of those event maps was like 50%+.

>> No.13238406

NutakuDev: However, we will have a new feature allowing you to see when your friends were last in-game
NutakuDev: That will be implemented within a month and should be quite handy for maintaining active comrades.
From the http://lordofvalkyrie.chatango.com/

>> No.13238466

>>13238406
That's so fucking useful, i have like half of my list full of "i'm not sure if he's active or not" cases

>> No.13238477

Trying to get more comrades and remove dead ones, anyone know how long between removing and removing another is.
Seems silly to have a restriction here.

Akso if anyones got room for me I'd appreciate it, I know one or two of you removed me(which is fine) cause I stopped spawning stuff. Name is Sicoe
Gonna get more active now my connections sorted.

>> No.13238481

>>13238252
I'll write another Event Post this weekend probably.

>> No.13238484

>>13238477
send me a req, i have a space

IGN: Blaxer

>> No.13238494

>>13237960
Remove the part about the aigis wiki having nothing on it, its got quite a bit on it now, not everything but most stuff.

>> No.13238524

Any ideas on the minimal requirements for continent 4 explorations? Like 150k+?

>> No.13238548

>>13238524
The numbers are
160k
150k
125k
150k
155k
165k

>> No.13238556

>>13238548
Thanks.

Looks like these will cost about 60-70k each, explorations are definitely amazing money sinks. That's good I guess.

>> No.13238565

>>13238477

Schverika has space.

>>13237932

No, I meant Continent 1 Dungeon 1. They're not numbered in-game but they're ordered by difficulty.

>> No.13238580

>>13238565
I'll add you in a bit just gotta clear some more space up.
>>13238484
I've sent the request now

>> No.13238605
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13238605

Some 10-ish runs of Expedition 1-1 later, I have 3 Phams so far. Time to raise one to send on more expeditions.

>> No.13238632

Now I wish I invested all the fodder from elemental fountain into UC cards. But nope, I evolved all my UC's at lvl1 and never leveled them

>> No.13238667
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13238667

CRITICAL ATTACK! BOOOM!


Dropping it now btw.

>> No.13238676

>>13238477
Oh snap....I removed you. Good to see you're active again. I'm full right now, but will try to connect back with you when able

>> No.13238732

>>13238676

Activity is fluid - a previous inactive can become active again. Cutting and re-adding shouldn't be unusual.

>> No.13239040
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13239040

Believe it or not this is my best summon in 2k gacha

>>13238580
Just approved

>> No.13239212

>>13238580
Still need comrades? name: weras

>> No.13239652
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13239652

I may be late but i'm not the last

>> No.13239675

>>13239652
>level 57
Can't believe it took you that much time for that.

>> No.13239695

>>13239675
yeah, i got Jerome in my 3rd premium gacha, so realy early in the game, i wasn't in a hurry to cc katy

>> No.13240087

just sold 15 sandras. My wallet is hurting

>> No.13240137

>>13239675

Is it really that late? I assumed unless you get lucky with Plat Armor drops it's not that uncommon to be really high level with relatively low # of CCs.

I'm at lvl 81 and only have 6 CC units (Soma, Katie, Bellinda, Bernice, Alissa, & Valerie in that order). I've only received 1 plat in the 3 Mondays I've grinded Golden Armor N, and manually leveled and CCed the others.

Hell I only finally 1* Castle Retake today which will hopefully make future grinding way easier using Dragon Hunting.

Anyone know what to level and CC next to make sure I can 24* the next event?

>> No.13240275

How good are the silver dragon weapons? 15 minutes is a short amount of time.

>> No.13240291

>>13239652
don't worry, I just CCed her at lvl71
Probably because I first CCed Soma, Garrett and Belinda

>> No.13240301

Anyone have some free comrade slots on valk? If so feel free to add me. I keep getting dead comrades qq. Name is maxwell3094.

>> No.13240303

>>13240275
Worse than every Gold Lottery weapon.

>> No.13240304

>>13240087
I feel ya.....Im gonna have to go slow. As long as I only do one expensive dungeon at a time, It seems I can sustain my bankroll, even making a small profit, by boss hunting and selling all the extra shit Im getting from farming on the beginning ones.

I dont have enough strong, non-SR cards to feasibly tackle more right now unfortunately. I ate way too many of my old cards, and without the fountain, it's now depressing to farm for material.

I need to form some sort of plan. I've just been kinda throwing whatever material I've gotten at what feels like random cards, not fully wanting to commit to leveling shit like my one original copy of Vera. Luckily I kept unleveled (2x)+ copies of all of the good Rs, just incase....but that is still a grip of leveling that would need to happen to get 2S2M versions. And at R++, they are still not cheap to use. Well.....so slow and steady I guess for now.

>> No.13240328

>>13240303
Guess I'll keep saving lottery gold till I get one in that case.

>> No.13240446

>>13240304

I just discovered the meaning of those purple highlights on the JP expedition wiki page (http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c4%b4%ba%ba%c0%ef%c3%c4).). They're the expedition assisters, like Cart, Wagon and Globe.

How much discount do you get on the expeditions? I'm currently rolling with 45% reduced gold cost (Cart, Mea+, Hyoka).

>> No.13240486

>>13240446
I've got Mea+ and Hyoka++, so thats 35%. I haven't gotten a cart yet....need to get me some

>> No.13240522

Finally got 400 lottery miles. Who should i spend it on?

>> No.13240540

>>13240522
your waifu

>> No.13240570

>>13239212

Schverika can make space.

>> No.13240623

>>13240486
Do the different cost reductions stack additively or multiplicatively? So e.g. if you have 2 with 25% cost reduction, does it combine into 50% or just 43.75%?

>> No.13240711

How do I past Castle Retake?

>> No.13240722

>>13240711
what exactly are you having trouble with? Can you make it to the Lich, or get rekt earlier?

>> No.13240732

>>13240722
Units aren't strong enough + unit points.
At the start I already let one red goblin slip through and later on I am able to make it to the Lich, but he just one-shots or two-shots my entire party. And I have no choice but to let him through. That leaves me with nothing to attack the last dragon as well and I lose

>> No.13240746

>>13240732
I had 2 mincosted iron soldiers just for that mission, used them to stop the initial wave of goblins. As for Lich and dragon, you need a witch strong enough to kill the dragon fast, before Lich kills her. Best if you got a decent healer to help her last too. I think I had a lvl40 Cloris and lvl33 Alissa when I cleared it.
In general, I was using strategy similar to Eth Eternal's, except I used iron soldiers instead of assassins at start, and I put a princess as dueler instead of the valk

>> No.13240747

>>13240732

For me, Lich was tanked by putting down 50CC25 Eunice in its face while 2 healers were still up.

>> No.13240752

>>13240732
run a min cost bronze archer and bronze soldier. Let the first armor pass.

The lich will attack the unit that you put down last in his range. Just vomit out everything right up there while your witches and mages deal with the dragon.

You should be able to 1 star it like this.

>> No.13240815
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13240815

Oh wow, these explorations sure are taking a lot of time.

>> No.13240872

>>13240815

I never thought I'd see La Qua actually be used. Whatever it takes to meet the quota for now I guess.

>> No.13240874

Still no Pham drop for me... Man, talk about being unlucky.

>> No.13240987

So I did some research into what farming early Expeditions would bring. I need to leave house for a while so I'll continue this some hours later. Hopefully the format isn't too confusing - I'll post from phone to clear any questions.

Expedition 1-1: Hantata Fountain
>5000
Lv8 C - Earth
Lv5 C - Wind
Lv5 Pham (UC Fire)
---
Lv3 C - Fire

Expedition 1-2: Gorusa Cave
>5000
Lv5 C - Earth
Lv5 C - Wind
Lv5 Elle (UC Fire)
---
Lv3 C - Wind

Expedition 1-3: Token Forest
>10000
Lv1 Wagon (-20% cost)
Lv5 C - Earth
Lv5 C - Water
Lv5 Miu (UC Wind, cost reduced)
Accessory+1
---
Lv3 C - Earth

Expedition 1-4: Ruto Ruins (2h)
>12000
Lv5 C - Water
Lv5 C - Fire
Lv5 Rukia (UC Wind)
Accessory+1
---
Lv1 Wagon (-20% cost)
Lv3 C - Water
Lv3 UC Book - Earth

Expedition 1-5: Godam Mountain (2h)
>30000
Lv1 Sextant (+15% expedition EXP)
Lv5 C - Earth
Lv5 C - Fire
Accessory+1 (Wind)
---
Lv1 Sextant (+15% expedition EXP)
Lv3 C - Fire
Lv3 C - Wind

>> No.13240992

>>13240987

Expedition 2-1: Bellerose Fortress (2h)
>50000
Lv1 Amulet (+5% Great Success chance)
Lv1 Wagon (-20% Cost)
Lv10 C - Earth
Lv10 C - Wind
Lv10 C - Water
Accessory+1
Matx1
---
Lv1 Amulet (+5% Great Success chance)
Lv8 C - Earth

Expedition 2-2: Rutsura Ruins (2h)
>70000
Lv1 Wagon (-10% time)
Lv10 C - Water
Lv10 C - Fire
Lv10 C - Fire
Lv10 UC book - Water
Accessory+1
Matx1
---
Lv8 C - Water
Lv8 UC book - Water
Accessory

Expedition 2-3: Nushaya Tower (2h)
>80000
Lv1 Amulet (+5% Great Success chance)
Lv1 Wagon (-20% Cost)
LV10 C - Earth
Lv10 C - Wind
Lv10 C - Wind
Accessory+1
Matx1
---
Lv1 Amulet (+5% Great Success chance)
Accessory

Expedition 2-4: Ramudan Village (3h)
>90000
Lv1 Globe (loot drop rate UP3)
Lv10 C - Water
Lv10 C - Wind
Lv10 Tsukasa (UC Earth)
Accessory+2
Accessory+1 (Earth)
---
Lv1 Globe (loot drop rate UP3)
Lv8 C - Fire

Expedition 2-5: Yaisen's Tomb (6h)
>100000
Lv1 Caravan (-15% time)
Lv1 Amulet (+5% Great Success chance)
Lv10 C - Earth
Lv10 C - Fire
Accessory+1 (Fire)
Matx1
---
Accessory
Lv8 C - Earth
Lv8 C - Wind

Conclusions:
- Make sure you get the master element jewelry from 1-5.
- Time reduction from 2-2 and 2-5 are a must have.

>> No.13241013

>>13240992

Oh, extra conclusion:
The easiest 1h grinds are Earth/Wind friendly. Water is also easy to grind if you can meet 50k power cost-effectively.

This further puts fire in the "hardest to cheap-grind" spot (which still isn't very hard).

>> No.13241256

alas, my poor wallet won't let me get past the izromi highland ;_;

>> No.13241329

Is it worth it to level up element books or should I just combine them right away to any SRs of the same element?

>> No.13241336

>>13241329
1- they are just fooder, use them as you get them
2- there is no need for them to be same element, at those levels +1exp (for same element) is not much, if you want to use it in the same element go ahead

>> No.13241794

>>13240992

Oops, 2-1 and 2-3 should be Cart not Wagon.

>> No.13241859

>>13240623
they add. I've got a 20% and 15% equaling 35%

>> No.13241924

>>13241859
Wow, it's rare for reduction effects like that to actually stack additively. Are there enough cards with it in the game to make it literally for free? I know the Cart, Hyouka, Mea and Seraph have it for a total of 85%, so with one more we could reach 100%.

>> No.13241961

>>13241924
who is seraph?

>> No.13242005

>>13241924
The angel girl, not sure if she's in the game yet, but she's supposed to drop in the 2nd mission of continent 5.

>> No.13242012

>>13241961
Meant to reply to you, missclicked on the wrong post.

>> No.13242029

>>13241924

Even if one could reach 100%, that would only be meaningful for early expeditions. You've used 5 of 8 slots to get those discounts, hard to meet high power level with just 3 slots. So I don't think it's broken to potentially allow 100% with 5 units. More likely it'll be just those 4.

>> No.13242048

>>13242029
On the other hand, there are big fat SSRs incoming, which would have very high costs but also high power, thus possibly meeting it with 0 cost.

Although I find the potential for that fifth card existing very small anyway.

>> No.13242107

I wish exploration interface was less clunky, its a bother to send all 3 teams to same dungeon over and over again

>> No.13242124

>>13241924
where is the extra 5% from? 20 from each valk at ++ and 20 for the cart at lv 1.... Do you gain an extra 5% for leveling the cart?

>> No.13242125

Oh jesus, that 5th event map on JP with the golems. They're like armors except with like 2k+ damage ranged attacks and way more hp.

>> No.13242206

How to get Evil Spirit Hell-Loki?

>> No.13242217

>>13242206
Card lottery or buy her

>> No.13242340

>>13242124
You can combine 2 carts into a cart+

>> No.13242354

>>13242340
it is a C card.....makes sense

>> No.13242616

>>13242340
but are there any bonuses from leveling it?

>> No.13242772

>>13242616
I doubt it, levelling probably only increases its stats, which are pretty low either way.

>> No.13243537

Does these game require internet on all time to play? Can it be play offline?

>> No.13243541

>>13243537
Yes, no.

>> No.13243552

>>13243537
Maybe so.

>> No.13243562

>>13243537
I don't know

>> No.13243564

>>13243541
>>13243552
>>13243562
Am I suppose to finish downloading it then find out if it's playable offline or not? Every 50GB cost me $15 dollars.

>> No.13243622

>>13243564
Yes.

>> No.13243832

>>13243564
Download what? These are browser games.

>> No.13243906

>>13243564
It's not playable offline.

>> No.13243925

>>13243832
I want to know too

>> No.13243973

Oh man I was struggling with 3*'ing the 4th event map on JP until I realized that I can just put a princess right in front of Katie after Katie blocks the first werewolf and then retreat Katie and the princess will kill it.

>> No.13244139

>>13243832
You still download them, all the graphics and shit. What do you THINK the loading screen is? Do you not see Aigis counting out 70 megs? Browser caching helps, but it often doesn't keep such huge chunks of stuff?

>>13243537
>>13243564
These are online only games. You can't just download them and play them offline.

>> No.13244358

Thanks for adding me, weras! (enigmastrike)
I'm still a noob, but LoV's been a fun time waster. Just wish leveling cards was faster.

Anyway, question about Aigis: if I have multiple Nanalys, is it worth using all the copies for CRing or should I keep one non-CCed as a kind of quick response machine gun?
Also seems like leveling her skill doesn't improve it much so CRing before CC should be okay.

>> No.13244406

>>13244358
Oh man whatever you do don't CR before CC, but I'd keep both.

>> No.13244543

>>13244358
Level and CC both Nanalys is what I would do. You can use a silver/gold archer for early in the map if needed. Nanaly is too much of powerhouse to keep her at 50.

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>>13237960
fuck you nigger

>> No.13244646

>>13244358
>>13244543
>tfw sitting on two extra Nanalys and five Bashiras
>not a single fucking silver archer for fodder
Fuck my RNG. I hope next event will have not so trashy drop rates.

>> No.13244745

>>13244139
Well sure, you do have to download certain object. Every page load you do is downloading something.
However, I've already tried downloading certain files, like scenes, and I can't get them to work without viewing them in the game itself.

>> No.13244756

>>13244745
Well I figured he meant the loading screen, or tried running some software that saves pages for him.

>> No.13244757

>>13244646
who are you quoting?

>> No.13244766

>>13244757
Why do you care?

>> No.13244767

>>13244757
I'm going on a >tfw tangent about my troubles with archers loosely connecting to a previously ongoing discussion about archers.

>> No.13244780

>>13244766
because it's a question we must ask to all of our cross-boarding friends who try to instill their /a/ and /v/ memes here.

>>13244767
That's okay, it should take a day or two but you're going to get banned

>> No.13244790

>>13244780
Greentext is not against the rules and who are you quoting is a shit meme that died the moment the tripfag who came up with it fucked off /jp/ forever.

>> No.13244793

>>13244780
Wut?

>> No.13244798

>>13244780
Bitch, please, /jp/ is the most tfw-y board out of all I've seen.

>> No.13244801

>>13244790
that's just false information my friend, please do not instill your /a/ culture and /v/ culture here, it encourages unfunposting and general rudeness and unlikable mean posts that /jp/ pushes away.

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>>13244801

>> No.13244817

>>13244806
I don't use the word anon because it reminds me of /a/ posters, not to mention I just started two hours ago

>>13244798
that's just untrue and unwarranted, maybe for the new generals where cross board posters find solace to post their board culture, but not on the rest of /jp/. out of /jp/ please, this board is too good for you

>> No.13244829

>>13244817
No, you :3

>> No.13244963

Just got another silver from 2k gatcha, My first free silver too.
I kinda wish I'd get different silvers but beggers can't be choosers.

So far I've gotten 4 Craves, 2 Mortimers, 2 Eunices, 3 Elaines and 1 Daniela, all units I don't use.

>> No.13244980

Why is Loki an SR? Wasn't she some shit common card?

>> No.13244984

Just realised we never assessed Pham:

>http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%b9%c8%b1%eb%a4%ce%a5%d5%a5%a1%a5%e0

Crit: 10
Bal: 10
Cost: 8 / 10 / 12
MAGIC
Init: 36%
2M: 3289 / 9189
2S2M: 4273 / 12070
4M: 4664 / 13473

>> No.13244987

>>13244980
There's a Loki of hell who's a common card, and a SR Evil Spirit Hell-Loki. They do have a very similar appearance with Loki of Hell being more loli.

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13245002

Ah, just the thing for fielding Carol. Got it off a Great Success on the 24hr expedition. Double luck given I only barely passed the threshold.

Anyway, looking ahead there's no way I can unlock continent 6 by the time of the contest deadline so I'll have to make do with 5.

>>13244980

A lot of commons get reincarnated as Rs and SRs. Loki managed it without needing an event.

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13245028

Finally starting to get somewhere with SR angel drops.

>> No.13245171

Just enhanced a ring: Att/MAtt/Def/MDef all go up

>> No.13245172

Oh man, if I understand the japanese wiki correctly, continent 5 will mostly consist of missions where you can only field a certain element. If that's true, I might have to add some lower level comrades who can still spawn dragons so I can get a Marin and an Athena. Without their elemental buffs I won't get anywhere near 100 str with water/earth.

The most ironic part is that Marin would actually drop there, but I would need an earth team to get her.

>> No.13245177

>>13245172
Meant 100k, not 100

>> No.13245190

>>13245172
I was planning to post for some more comrades once I get to stage of spawning useful stuff. Currently on just Q8 though.

>> No.13245217

>>13245172
I kept those Rs but I think I need another copy or two.

I'm 12hours away from unlocking continent 6 and I'm wondering how the bloody hell I am supposed to make 3 teams of 200k+ combat strength with certain elements not allowed.

>> No.13245233

>>13245217
If I could buy a storage, I would've always kept 1 copy of everything, just for the sake of collecting, but when my space started to run low I decided to throw away everything I didn't level up. So all that's left from the 4 elemental buff cards is Naga and Sophie. I'm glad now that I levelled them up high enough to keep me from throwing them away, without them I would hardly even be able to reach continent 5.

>> No.13245236

>>13245172

Yep I too read those first 4 dungeons as "element X only", followed by 2 dungeons of "mag/phys banned".

I'm so glad I:
a) haven't gone past Quest 24 (thus shutting out Elemental Dragons)
b) went back to make a 2S2M Athena after I accidentally 4S'd her the first time round
c) never threw away Naga, I can now 2S2M her now

Sophie needs to be remade but I had long ago assembled 4 copies of her expecting to do so for the sake of one more Master Element user. Just that she's in the back of a long queue of other priorities - currently being a string of Mabels. Why yes, I was busy farming Fountain for Kagura's sake.

>> No.13245378

>>13244406 >>13244646
Gotcha. Better get me enough Black faeries

>> No.13245435
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13245435

i'm keeping this one

>> No.13245467

>>13245435
You can only get 1 (C) Chocola inside the game so be sure to lock it

>> No.13245831 [DELETED] 

Heey Blaxer you around? Your tsar got 7 minutes left.

>> No.13245879

So, is it possible to clear all exploration dungeons using only a maxed UC++ deck, or they will need some R++ as well? Should I start gathering rares as well?

>> No.13245943
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13245943

>>13245831
Don't worry man i got it with 3 minutes left
My first Tsar gave me a book, what did you guy get?

>> No.13245991

>>13245879

Hmm, time for some math. Expedition combat power = Att + Skill (init completely irrelevant!)

Let's suppose a team of 8 4M Deltas (NB: this is impossible) since she's one of the best UCs.

4M Delta's power level = 5956 + 13304 = 19260
8 Delta team's power level = 19260 x 8 = 154080

You could get to around continent 4 before you were stopped. Continent 7 will demand 3 times as much power level to clear. In short: you're gonna need SRs eventually.


Has anyone gotten the previously withheld water UC? Drops from rank 7 water boss. Uh actually, has anyone killed a rank 6 fire boss and gotten Pham after the update? Pham also drops at a rank 18 boss but I want to know if they've changed the previous drop tables.

>> No.13246035

>>13245991
Well, I lvl50 all my SR's before evolving them anyway, but I guess I should focus on all kinds of cards, since using SR's is just too expensive, and probably best avoided until really needed
I think a R++ card with a team of UC++ of the same element could probably last some more time, if the R provides an elemental boost for 30%, thats about 45k more combat power

>> No.13246040

Earth dragon up for Schverika! Please treat it like a Behemoth, i.e. punch lightly.

>> No.13246076

>>13246040
Also one from Depaq.
Schverika, why did you remove me? Sadface!

>> No.13246079

>>13246076
Ok, well that didn't last but a minute.

>> No.13246083

>>13246076

Mostly because our timezones didn't seem to match. That and I saw another lowbie to help out so cycled you out as you've "graduated".

>> No.13246180
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13246180

Go, my mono-element teams! Some of those valks are Lv 1 but I don't care, expenses be damned!

>> No.13246202

Any idea when we will get the difficulty after Hard for the dailies in Aigis?

>> No.13246240

>>13246180
How do you get Sharo? I forgot.

>> No.13246247

>>13246240
Pandeon

>> No.13246291

>>13245943
Also a book, level 36.

>> No.13246503

>>13246240

Can also drop from uh... one of Black Dragon or Golden Dragon. But Panda spam is the usual source.

>> No.13246657

Man. So I got Bernice through the shrine. Pretty damn good Heavy Right?
But now I'm wondering if I should CC her or Leanne. You'd think it's be a no brainer but I'm worried about the Unit Cost. which will jump by 3.

So it's either a Leanne with 17 and Bernice with 23, or Leeane with 20 and Bernice at 20.

>> No.13246684

>>13246503
Gold Dragon drops Marsha and Black Dragon drops Heidi.

Sharo is from Pandas only.

>> No.13246890 [SPOILER] 
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13246890

Damnit Bashira, you nasty cat-girl

>> No.13246894

>>13246657
You're rolling out with soldiers at first, usually. By the time you need a HA, the soldier's skills provide enough unit points

>> No.13247225
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13247225

Don't panic guys, i had an alarm just in time

>> No.13247269

Hey guys, on the LoW investigations wiki, what are the numbers on either side of the "time" needed for investigation

>>13247225
congratulations for being the best procrastinator! haha

>> No.13247304

>>13247269
In the JP wiki?

The column before [Exploration Time] is departure cost multipler. It's used in the formula for computing departure costs.

The column after [Exploration Time] is EXP gained.

>> No.13247318

>>13247304
Cool, thanks man....

>> No.13247518

So I just noticed that the rewards for PvP changed slightly... Im still on Rank 9, and instead of getting lv9 gear I'm getting Lv10 gear....strange.

How's it going on the higher levels now? Are you able to get matches now? And what are the rewards?

>> No.13248204

>>13245435
>>13245467
How do you get her?

>> No.13248504

>>13248204
by completing the main quest added in the current update

>> No.13248511

>>13248504
And what does she do, aside from being a one-off collector item? Can you evolve her?

>> No.13248584

>>13248511

You'll be seeing a lot more of her in future content, in more ways than one.

>> No.13248648

>>13248511
I will just say that I will not try to fight players who has 3 SR cards of her on PvP in JP ver because her skill damage is insane.

>> No.13248668

>>13248504
No way I'm getting her before the special event expires then.

>> No.13248705

>>13248668
it expires? when?

>> No.13248757

>>13248705

It doesn't. Anon didn't see the "main" word.

>> No.13248961

>>13245378
You better keep both. If you want cost reduction and full skill, there are fairies for that.

Fleur, the spirit for cost reduction is still not in the Nutaku version though.

>> No.13248965

>>13248961
I was speaking about Nanaly of course. Do whatever you want with your Bashiras.

>> No.13249076

>>13240746
>>13240747
>>13240752
I finally got past Castle Retake. Feels good

>> No.13249474
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13249474

My luck today:
You can feed 2 copies and get 2 points down and skill level up twice, now you don't deserve any platinum

>> No.13249501
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13249501

How is your luck this week?

>> No.13249508

Cleaning up my list a bit. Looking for some active comrades who are still able to spawn the rank 8 dragons.

>> No.13249560
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13249560

These are my units, can i do monday's hard with no mayor problems?

>>13249501
Drop-related bad, just golds
Gold related nice, 4 golds on every run on normal

>> No.13249563

>>13249560
Should be fine, bring a second armor along to block the left side crossroads.

>> No.13249565

>>13249563
Leanne at that level can solo tank just fine.

>> No.13249570

>>13249501
terrible, same as last week. 1-2 golds per run, no platinums
I just want to CC my healers damn it

>> No.13249587

>>13249508
Sent you a request, I'm stuck with the Dragons for some time.

>> No.13249589
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13249589

Ryujin event confirmed for Aigis this Friday

>> No.13249599

>0 drops run
It keeps happening! Not even a gold!

>> No.13249606

>Decide to restart my account because I screwed up doing rookie mistakes the first time around, like combining silver units when I shouldn't have or spending a shit load of cristals on recharges.
>Delete account and make it again.
>Realize I just lost Belinda forever.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.13249624

>>13249589
>English texts on picture

Wait, what?

>> No.13249630

>>13249589
Is that screen from a dev? Which unit is that next to the fairy queen?

>> No.13249637

>>13249630
That's Cyrus. CC'd.

>> No.13249638

>>13249630
Black beardy

>> No.13249641

>>13249587
Sounds great. I'll be counting on you for some nice ice and earth dragons then.

>> No.13249650

>>13249589
>All those rares
They sure want to milk their users huh?

>> No.13249653

>>13249637
Did he get a new sprite when I wasn't looking?

>> No.13249668

>>13249589
Nice try, NutakuDev.

>> No.13249672

>>13249076
Now despair as soon as you click that 42 cost.

>> No.13249747

>>13249076
prepare to grind Remnant Vanquish 3 for weeks before you can clear immortal beast. Thats what I am doing now

>> No.13249787

>>13249653
Not yet. But this means that he will get one in the future update

>> No.13249993

No Plat armors yet, I'm afraid I won't CC Leeanne this week.

>> No.13250282

What are the minimums required for 5th continent's explorations, anyone? My ~105k wind team just returned from the 24h long wind-only expedition and it ended with a failure, I sent it cos I remembered someone saying it was 100k for all those monotypes, looks like the requirements are higher though (that's pretty crazy).

>> No.13250328

>>13250282
Fire/Water-only is 100k.
Earth/Wind-only is 110k.
NoPhys/NoMagic is 170k.

oh no

>> No.13250370

>>13250328
kill me

I bet ure taking it from jp wiki? mind giving me a link?

>> No.13250388

>>13250370
http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c4%b4%ba%ba%c0%ef%c3%c4#09

>> No.13250529

Well damn, they banned mailinator. No more easy rerolls/referentials.

>> No.13250533

Ok, time to level up my 2M Delta now that both UC copies are back from expeditions. Then plan out the next 2 days' worth of expeditions...

>>13249501

Prepare to burn crystals on Monday again, receive 2 plat armours with normal sta. Uh... that's a welcome way to douse my spirit.

>> No.13250541

>>13250529
I'm sure one of the dozen other throwaway email services still works.

>> No.13250552

>>13250388
ty

>> No.13250568

>>13250541
I expect that all easy googlable services are banned, given the "easy googlable" criteria.

>> No.13250591

>>13249993
You know, you don't need a plat armor to get someone to 50. I've not been getting them myself, all it means is it costs more to reach 50. Then again, I have over 1.2mil somehow...

>> No.13250599

>>13249563
Is there a strategy for hard?

>> No.13250709

>>13249993

I've only used Platinum Armor to get one of my units to 50. I've already CCed 7 units, 6 of which were grinded manually. If you need to CC a unit to proceed forward or get ready for the event and you have the gold for it, just do the grind manually. Expect to use a lot of gold to do so.

>> No.13250739
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13250739

Ahhh yeahhhh, this necktie. Feels so good to have patiently 4M'd the original owner too.

>> No.13251207

>>13249589
>min-cost Sybilla

mang

>> No.13251360

Finally figured out how I can 3* Tuesday hard, meanwhile all it dropped was a single fucking gold fairy.

>> No.13251471

Does anyone else feel the upcoming event will be too hard for 90% of players? Particularly because you need to 3 star everything to get the max reward.

>> No.13251486

>>13251471
The point is you only get the max reward if you're good enough.

>> No.13251500

>>13251486
You could get Belinda last time without 3-starring the final mission.

>> No.13251550

>>13251471
Better than last event where most people couldn't even get close to the max reward even if they could 3* every map.

>> No.13251746

i finnaly got myself an xp armor there quite nice

get 3 of those and a fairy for massive xp

>> No.13251755

>>13251746
no dude

one of those and 3 fairies

>> No.13251812

>>13251471
What are the rewards?

>> No.13251820

>>13251812
A really good soldier.

>> No.13251847

>>13251812
Attack type soldier

>> No.13251969

>>13251471
>can't even retake the castle yet
I'm fucked

>> No.13252097

>>13251812
Gold Rarity Soldier (Offensive Version of Katie) and Black Rarity Dragon Warrior who CCs into a Black Rarity Dragon Princess (Tank-Type Princess).

>> No.13252327

>>13252097
>Black Rarity Dragon Warrior who CCs into a Black Rarity Dragon Princess (Tank-Type Princess).

Welp. Time to grind like a mad man and get Mage and Heavy CC'd.

>> No.13252443

>>13251755
wait does that add up to more

>> No.13252466

>>13252443
3x Armors + 1x Fairy can equal up to 6k XP in exchange for 3 rare ass Armors.

1x Armor + 3x Fairies can equal up to 8k XP and you only have to farm one Armor.

>> No.13252467

What is a good way to deal with those black armored enemies? I got started few days ago and they just murder their way through my defences in couple of hits, leaving no time for my mages to deal enough damage to kill them.

>> No.13252469

>>13252466
oh cool

>> No.13252492

>>13252467
You tank them, and kill them with magic-users. If you're entire army is folding that either means your tanks are shit, or your healers are shit; or both.
Is Gate Defense the map you're having trouble with?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti5oocWXwu8

>> No.13252513

>>13252467
There are lots of ways. Sometimes you'll want to use lots of witches and mages and just stop them from ever reaching you just with ranged stuff. Sometimes you'll want to set up a high defense unit with enough healers to actually be able to tank them. Or maybe you'll get a defense ignoring melee unit like a princess even.

>> No.13252540

>>13252327
To CC the dragon you need to also get 25 stars on the following event. Which is the same until the last three maps, but even harder.

>> No.13252574

>>13252467
I had my Cypria out and used her special just before it came. At least in Armor of the Dead.

>> No.13252687

>>13252492
Is this video actually up-to-date? There is one armor in that mission that comes from west and joins the northern troll-thing in beating your tank.

Mind you, the same strategy still works as long as your healers and tank are good enough and the mages can kill them before the skills run out, but I do have my doubts about those units at that level being able to do it.

>> No.13252713

>>13252687
It seems that video is not the only one that is incorrect/lacking enemies. On that channel the wolves' den mission has 3 less enemies than what I'm getting, those 3 being archers that kill the mage before you even have the time to react.

>> No.13252815

>>13249747
I'm grinding Dragon Hunting now. This mission seems better than Remnant Vanquish 3. What's the difference?

>> No.13252955

>>13252713

Belinda's update did make all maps spawn every unit all the time. Before, some units had a chance to spawn.

Regarding armours, another option is bandits. Again, only if you have really good healers. If all else fails, shove expendable bronze soldiers in their way and cycle them out as they get low in HP.

>> No.13253123

>>13250739
where you get....I like

>> No.13253133

>>13253123
According to the wiki, it should drop in the "Earth only" mission on continent 5.

All the more reason why I need an earth team, my 4M Sharo wants her necktie.

>> No.13253163

When does the Trading Post get updated? Kinda wondering it I should get Cyrus or seriously farm for Chydis.
But that all depends on when it gets updated.
And hell, also depends on what those two get replaced by.

>> No.13253178

>>13253163
Their FB says they won't be updating it this Friday, so you still have time for Chydis, at least.

>> No.13253233

>>13253133
how much is the min. for that? Still on 4 so I cant match it up. I've got one more to do here after this round gets back...slow, yes...but I have been actually making money so it's not too bad. I did send out 2 groups at a time this go. What can I say, I splurged

>> No.13253264

>>13241924
>The upper limit of reducing exploration time and costs is 80%.
>Even if your cards special skills in total exceeds 80%,
>the values on exploration start screen will still be reduced by 80%.
>With such time and costs the EXPLORATION will start.
Says the game guide.

>> No.13253272

>>13251500
Yes but farming enough Belindas to min cost her was anything but easy.

Also lets hope it's the unfixed event from the original run rather than reprints.

>> No.13253292

>>13252687
The same strategy still works perfectly. Against Magic damage, Black Heavy Armors are actually weaker than the Purple Giants. So the extra Black Heavy Armor does nothing because it dies before the second group of heavies reach you.

So yes. You can literally use those same level units as in the video, the difficulty is exactly the same despite having an extra Black Heavy Armor.

>>13252713
As other Anon mentioned, update made all enemies spawn 100% of the time. Previously certain enemies only spawned sometimes (like early-rusher Black Heavy Armor in Armor of the Dead). The only difference in Wolves' Den is you wait an extra couple seconds to deploy the Mage. Or just retreat him the second you see the Archers spawn.

>> No.13253312

>>13253233
The Earth one needs 110k

>> No.13253384

>>13253312
ok...I think I can do 110 in earth. Does it show as only being a great success reward?

>> No.13253409

>>13253292
>As other Anon mentioned, update made all enemies spawn 100% of the time.
Man, I remember the early rushing black heavy coming down 90% already. Always though it was bullshit because I had nothing to stop that guy from bulldozing my entire line. Him and him alone fucked up EVERYTHING.

>> No.13253431

Finally got my plat for easier Leeanne CCing.

Then I just had a thought, since I'll use a spare Leeanne for CC, I won't be able to CR her. How rare are silvers in the 2000G draws?

>> No.13253435

>>13253431
Pretty rare. IIRC average gold dump for seeing one is around 100k.

On the other hand, if you've got millions from monday farming, the main problem is boredom in clicking the shit out of it.

>> No.13253512

>>13253384
Yep, only great success, and unfortunately the amulet can't be used on it since it's not earth.

>> No.13253622

>>13250599

Don't tank at first chokepoint. The first armour takes a long detour. Start with CC Katie at left and CC Chloris/Belinda at right.

>> No.13253724

>>13253431
About 3,5%.

0.1% for Gold and for higher you don't even wanna know, believe me.

>> No.13253782

>>13253724
hey that's only 2m gold per gold unit, not bad

>> No.13253827

>>13253724
You know, At some point, I'm just going to waste a shit load of money just spinnng for free units. and reselling them until I get good ones. I'll just do it because I have the max amount of money and I won't be able to spend it all anyway.

>> No.13253832

>>13253827
I was thinking about doing that, but all that clicking would be arduous as shit, and I didn't manage to get any macroing software I tried to work with it.

>> No.13253873
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13253873

I don't understand. I should've unlocked Continent 7 by now. If continent 7 is not in the game yet, then why would they show us this girl?

All my rushing has gone to waste. Nooooooo.

>> No.13253887

anyone have video of immortal beast? i need valerie from this map reward

>> No.13253928

Sort of at a crossroads of what to level up next to ensure I can get 24 stars for the next event.

My team consists of 50 Plat Valk (Dahlia), 50CC25 Gold HA (Bernice), 50CC36 Silver Archer (Soma), 50CC19 Silver Healer (Alissa), 26 Silver Soldier (Phyllis), 30 Silver Mage (Valerie), 50CC30 Gold Soldier (Katie), 35 Plat Witch (Adele), 36 Silver HA (Leanne), 50CC10 Silver Healer (Dorca), 39 Silver Archer (Daniela), 30 Plat Rogue (Cypria), 50CC16 Silver Mage (Valerie), 50CC21 Plat Witch (Belinda), 9 Silver Healer (Alissa).

In reserves I also have a 29 Gold Archer (Stray), 41 Gold Valky (Kerry) and 40 Gold Witch (Cloris).

If I only have 1 spare Leanne, should I just use her in evolving my plat valky and forgo the ability to have two CCed HA until RNG smiles upon me?

I know I should level up my CCed units prior to the event, I was just grinding my units to 50 and CCing, figured the grind from 1 to 30 after CC would be far easier.

Aside: I also have a Plat armor and fairies in case I should boost either Kerry, Daniela, etc. up to 50 and CC.

>> No.13253946

>>13253887
Do you have awakened high rarity units?

Yes > Go to jp wiki
No > Forget that map even exists.

>> No.13253962

>>13253928
You can get Bernard in the future event, so don't hesitate to feed your Leeanne to that bloody plat Valk... i'm so jelly.

But with your team as it is, you're going to rekt that event up, so no worries.

>> No.13253998

>>13253928
>>13253962
I'd rather CC Leanne and leave the valk for later.

Plat sure is useful, but HAs are vital.

>> No.13254039

>>13253998
The thing is that we'll maybe need magic resistance (MR) to get by the last map of the event if it's a reprint. So having a CC'd valkyrie is preferable than having a second HA.

>> No.13254044

>>13254039
Okay, good point. In that case, I'd still hold on to it until we see whether the map is original (with phys damage "mages") or reprint.

>> No.13254081

>>13253873
Continent 7 is not in the game? Has anyone else found this to be true?

>> No.13254088
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13254088

Well that's it for aigis

>> No.13254090

>>13254044

Would 2 CC HAs really be necessary though or a combination of CC Bernice and CC Dahlia be sufficient regardless of whether it's original or reprint?

>> No.13254094

300k+ to send two 36h expeditions, each with 170k+ power level. I finally dropped below 1m Gila. Hmm, I need to think of what to do with expedition teams while I grind up some 2S2M UCs and Rs. I got a chariot at least.

I may just triple farm Continent 1 to power level all my surplus Carts, then eat them as I get newer ones.

>>13253832

Power of alt-tab multitasking.

>> No.13254123

Does today's daily get better at H? I had very poor drops in N, Challenge Quests provided more fairies so far
Speaking of Challenge Quests, how the heck do I clear Dwarf Battle?

>> No.13254164
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13254164

>>13254081
I'm hoping that it gets unlocked once I finish all continent 6 maps.

Will report back in 19 hours.

>> No.13254175

>>13254090
For the reprint, a 50CC40 Kerry is sufficient if you have two CC'd healers to support her.

And if it's not a reprint, Bernice will laugh hard and beat the shit out of everything.

>> No.13254227

>>13254175

Cheers mate for the info. Do you know how high I'd have to level my healers assuming 0 affection for all of them? (Dahlia is 29, Alissa is 59, and Dorca is 29, I just want to go with conservative estimates).

>> No.13254360

Uwah... What is going on with the error T_T. I planned to beat immortal beast by thursday. Now I am behind because I cant get in to farm dragon hunt. Quite worried right now...

>> No.13254378

>>13254088
>>13254360
There's a lot of people, including me , getting this error even on their fb page

>> No.13254390

>>13254360
>>13254378
>>13254088
Did anybody actually succeed in getting into Aigis today?

>> No.13254395

>>13254390
I'm in-game for about 6 hours now, had no trouble getting in back then

>> No.13254422

>>13254390
I'm in right now.

>> No.13254425

>>13254395
>>13254422
Question what time zone are you guys on? Just making sure it isn't GMT-6 related.

>> No.13254454

>>13254425
I'm in +3, got a friend in +2 and we're both having problems.

>>13254395
>>13254422
Did you guys get in before the day reset?

>> No.13254458

>>13254425
+3 here

>> No.13254469

>>13254454
Just logged in about two agos or so, so I don't think so. I'm in US Central Time, dunno what that converts to in GMT.

>> No.13254473

>>13254425
-3 here unable to get in

>> No.13254476

>>13254469
two hours ago*

>> No.13254487
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13254487

>>13254425
-6 here, unable to enter

>> No.13254587

>>13254469
That is -6 lol.

Ok so I guess this is random...

>> No.13254616

>>13254587
Strange thing is I'm unable to enter with my main account but I can login with other accounts

>> No.13254620

>>13254616
same here, made a new one to see if it was posible, well i could enter from the new one but not from the main/older one

>> No.13254639

>>13254620
I can get in even with older accounts that I made for premium roll just not with my main one.
They give the same answer to every people on facebook and it's not working

>> No.13254704

>>13254616
>>13254620
>>13254639
Then something must of been wrong with our accounts. They might be still register as logged in. It is also end of the month so that is prob a reason. I predict we will be able to get back on by tonight or tomorrow if nutaku is slow on things.

>> No.13254769

so all of us with login problems totally lost this day asuming next aigis day we can enter, i still need to grind for the next event and this happens...

>> No.13254789

>>13254769
at this moment I'm more worried about if I ever going to ve able to enter my account again

>> No.13254974

>>13254789

Raise a support ticket, get reimbursed for troubles when Nutaku fixes this. It's commercially suicide for a small publisher to leave players perma-locked out unless it's a justified ban.

>> No.13255054

>>13254974
I did like 3 hours ago

>> No.13255387

>>13254094

Turns out adding 1 EXP to Cart fodder isn't worth the 500G that extra 5% costs. Sure I could make the team cheaper but I'm willing to burn money to level up more valks at once right now, however marginal the EXP is.

Which just means I need to make C+ wagons first before cycling through them.

>> No.13255401

>>13255387

You forget evolving also costs Gila.

>> No.13255601
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13255601

What a lewd princess

>> No.13255614

>>13255601
Best princess in terms of lewdness. Sybilla is too OP.

>> No.13255682

Another question for those of you that can't log in. Did you guys have a 0 sacred crystal in the present box?

>> No.13255684

>>13254974
how to? in the GamePlay support link?

>> No.13255692

>>13255682
0 gift crystals but 1 for 3*ing a level a few days ago (that atm of the error)

>> No.13255754
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13255754

Should I aim to CC Julian next, or Dorca? Or focus on the plat princess instead?

>> No.13255757

>>13255682

I have that too (from the end of Feb) but I can log in just fine.

>> No.13255760

>>13255754
oh, I also have CCed Alissa, she didn't make it on the screenshot

>> No.13255778
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13255778

Hu....unexpected delta.

>> No.13255800

>>13255757
So that's not a cause, Still a bit depressed that every end of the month something is up.

>> No.13255829

>>13255778

How else do you think I got an extra 4 copies of her after throwing away the 4 from the main quest line?

>> No.13255883

>>13255829
well damn...thats some good regular lotto luck.

And another thing....shame on you for throwing Delta away.

>> No.13255953

>>13255800
so errors are common at the end of the month?
this was the first time for me, and the first time i actually noticed it here on >>/jp/

>> No.13255983

>>13255953
Nah the error aren't that common just the game has something weird every month's end.

>> No.13256065

>>13255983
I remember some people having on the past month,but now there's a lot more, me included(at least more people complaining about it)

>> No.13256802
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13256802

Event Post - Part 1

This is a "Trial"-type Event unlike the previous Bellinda Event. Your rewards are based on your total number of Stars on Event Missions. There are 8 Event Maps, so a possibility of up to 24 Stars. The rewards are;

4 maps cleared (you don't need to 3* them) = Gold Lieutenant Aria joins.
10* = Aria Initial Level of 10.
7 maps cleared = -1 Cost on Aria.
19* = -1 Cost on Aria (cost reduction is cumulative).
21* = -1 Cost on Aria.
All maps cleared = 3 Sacred Crystals.
24* = Black Dragon Warrior Sealed Drania joins.

Aria is a Gold Soldier like Katie, they also have the same skills "Reinforcement II" which upgrades to "Reinforcement III" after Class Changing. However, their stat allocations and Awakening Passives are different. Aria's Affection Bonuses and Awakening Passive are the exact opposite of Katie's. +Attack from Affection, and +2% Attack of All Units for Awakening.

Overall, I'd say Katie is the stronger unit, but Aria's Awakening Passive is better.

I couldn't find her H-Scenes on Sadpanda when I skimmed the gallery just now; but the Japanese Wikis list both of her scenes as "Cowgirl".

For comparison, here are max Katie's stats vs max Aria's stats.

Aria
1888 HP, 503 Attack (+2% Self-Buff), 260 Defense.

Katie
1939 HP, 359 Attack, 331 Defense (+2% Self Buff)

As for Black Dragon Warrior Sealed Drania, she is an extremely cost-heavy (yet surprisingly strong) unit who after Class Change transforms into a Black Dragon Princess Anya.

Sealed Drania caps out at level 30 (this is the only case in the entire game where it is okay to 30CC a high-rarity unit).

At level 30 Drania has the following stats:
1820 HP, 325 Attack, 390 Defense with the "Recovery IV" Skill. If you look at the stats above, you'll see that Drania at a mere level 30 has stats comparable to Katie when she's 50CC60AW80. However, Drania costs 30 Unit Points to deploy, so you won't be able to cheese maps with her unfortunately.

>> No.13256824

Part 2

Black Dragon Princess Anya has the following stats maxed out in JP currently (her Awakening will arrive soon, so these stats will shoot out higher).

2184 HP, 446 Damage (magic), 497 Defense with the Unique Skill [Seiken Ascalon] which reduces all incoming physical damage by 50% for up to 40 seconds.

After Awakening I would estimate her stats at around the following based on stat growths on other Black Princesses:
~2700 HP, ~550 Attack, ~600 Defense.

However, she is also the highest costing Princess at 35 Points (she comes min-cost already).

>> No.13256851

>>13256802
How hard is it to 24*? Like, "you'd probably need to 3* x story map to 24* this event"

>> No.13256862

>>13256851
That depends entirely on if they give us the initial difficulty or the reprint difficulty (in which they realized it was retarded that "mages" deal "physical" damage instead of "magical" damage).

With Reprint, you'd probably need to be able to 1* Immortal Demon.

With the initial difficulty, maybe something more like, Armor of the Dead? Maybe Castle Retake?

>> No.13256883
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13256883

Good job Nutaku.

>> No.13256884

Anyone else having a bug where call reinforcements will cast but not add unit points? Just ran into it with Katie while grinding Dragon Hunting

>> No.13256885

just logged into aigis and the dragon event was there in game and i was able to click on it but no missions popped up. then a window showed up saying the game was updated and needed to reload and the dragon mission button has been replaced with an unselectable belinda event button. weird

>> No.13256929
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13256929

>tfw at 99 affection, no stamina, no affection items left, no crystals and want to fap

this should be illegal

>> No.13256942
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13256942

>>13256929

>> No.13256945

>>13256929
Which girl?

>> No.13256966

>>13256884
They reverted the update and it fixed the issue, all good for now

>> No.13257271
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13257271

First SR drop! Thanks for help killing that Behemoth, Blaxer.

>> No.13257291

>>13257271
Congratulations

>> No.13257320

>>13257271
How often do /jp/sies check for bosses? It seems like every time I look either everything is at one hp or I missed anything that isn't a wyvern or dragon.

>> No.13257478

>Have so many extra Cecil cards that I decide to just evolve her just to see her scene.
I... I don't know how to feel about this..
I didn't see that coming Am I in for more surprises like this?.

>> No.13257502

>>13257478
I thiiink that's the only one. Well except the one in Aigis.

Also a funny thing, I HAVE heard the cries of OH NO I WAS TRAPPED but completely forgot about them and what unit they were about so I got surprised too.

>> No.13257512
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13257512

Guys, where is Pham? Who took all the Pham from this place?

Also, now that we hit bump limit, I'm gonna start asking: What should be added to the next OP? I barely play Aigis so I know almost nothing about it.

>>13256802 >>13256824 sounds good to have in a pastebin. Anything else?

>> No.13257533

So, anyone able to get into aigis after getting locked out? I had a corrupted save data, now time discrepancy.

Is this some kind of anti-cheat thing? Because I've just been playing normally with a choppy internet connection.

>> No.13257545

>>13257478
...I just did the same thing. I know how you feel.

>> No.13257548

>>13257545
In hindsight, I feel like I should have seen this coming.

>> No.13257549

>>13257533
Nah it's not anti-cheat, it's just a massed glitch.

>> No.13257772

>>13257512

You're farming the right place, but I once had to grind that expedition around 8 times before I got a Pham. Thankfully that was for my last copy, the other 3 dropped faster.

>> No.13257776

>>13257548
Nah, Usually, you notice something may be up when
The girl is TOO girly. But Cecil looked like a tomboy.

>> No.13257782

>>13257776
Cecil is an androgynous, commonly male name. I know because I once wrote a story with a girl called Cecil and people kept referring to her as him.

>> No.13258047

>>13257776
He still had somewhat of a bulge in the non++ pics.

>> No.13258202

One hour and only two pings on the behemoth.

>> No.13258216

What are the odds of getting a card out of these behemoths? I still haven't gotten even one. It's always fucking copper bars. Not even gold, just copper. Goddamnit.

>> No.13258242

>>13258216
pretty sure the odds of getting cards is higher than gold bars.

>> No.13258256

>>13258216
The same odds getting an SR on idoneus probably

In other words, extremely low.

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13258509

>>13254081
>>13254164
Just cleared all the dungeons in continent 6. Nope. No continent 7.

Not even SR books can justify the gold I've just wasted.

>> No.13258557
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13258557

On the road agai- wut?

>> No.13258583

I hope they'll add at least plat mage Garania next update. Contents of gatcha are so poor now and spending crystals on premium rolls feels completely meaningless because of possible copies and male units.

>> No.13258593

So, anybody who had the errors yesterday manage to log in? My friend says his save got wiped - level 1, back at the tutorial. I can't check my own due to being at work.

>> No.13258649

>>13258583
According to some posts on ulmf, a guy had the game show him a new gacha picture, showing off gold and plat mages "with increased odds" before resetting back to the old one.

>> No.13258692

>>13258649
For me, it showed a gold and plat mage on the gatcha page, but it said they were added to the premium gatcha, didn't mention increased odds, and said they were available from certain missions in the event.

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13258864

>>13257271
Np bro

>>13258593
Got back in, my data got reseted... back to the beginin... that's so... anoying...

>> No.13258886

>>13257320

It's more an issue of bloated power levels while Nutaku got out updates. There are so many players who can slam for 100k+ that it doesn't take many to down a boss. Especially when someone is about to level up and desperately wants a force dump.

I'd say every 10 minutes would safely see you most bosses.

>> No.13258901

>>13258864
whoa, that sucks. I am sure you guys will get some kind of refund

>> No.13258942

>>13258864
>>13258901
I expect them to have backups so at worst we'd be missing a couple days, and those to be compensated with some crystals.

>> No.13259007

>>13258942
i really hope so, if we don't even get a roll-back to get most of the progress back then that's it, i'm quitting aigis, so much time, so much leveling and grinding, the luck i had with the premium gacha...

>> No.13259045

I wonder if the event will be postponed now?

>> No.13259056

>>13259045
I wouldn't mind by 1 day, Thursday daily is good

>> No.13259057

>>13259045
Exceedingly probable.

>> No.13259117

Accounts using Cheat Engine were reset. Any paid crystals were refunded.

>> No.13259122

>>13259117
I actually predicted something like this. Serves them right I guess?

>> No.13259127

Welp, my shit got reset and the refunded crystals got me pretty much all silvers and one plat. Lost a black and 4-5 plats?

Meh, missing 2 events I think I'd rather just move to jp

>> No.13259169

>>13257478
>>13257545
you guys should be more open minded

>> No.13259188

According to NutakuDev they had a big debate on whether to remove Cecil. The non-removal side won.

>> No.13259336

>>13259188
you will never witness professional grown up man debates on removing lolis and traps

>> No.13259338

El oh el 55 crystal refunded and 15 days gold up.
So I accepted my fate and just rolled the crystals. Got julian, bernice, cyrus, betty. Not bad I guess? Getting back to where I was not thats a different question welp.

>> No.13259348

>Nutaku Games Today we reset the accounts of everyone who used cheat engine. Paid crystals were refunded. In the future, we'll skip this and go straight to deletion. Please play fairly.
Oh whoops.

>> No.13259381

>>13259336
Oh to be a fly on the wall for that conversation. I hope it happened in a boardroom.

>> No.13259409

Looks like everyone who got their account reset from using Cheat Engine is fucked out of Anya unless they spend a couple hundred dollars now.

>> No.13259421

>>13259409
I can get my account back up to a place where getting Aria isn't a problem, but Dorania is probably not going to happen.

>> No.13259431

>>13259409
Proper usage of CE allows 3 starring maps without actually deploying any units at all and I seriously doubt they'll notice.

>> No.13259443

Don't worry guys, It's an april joke tomorrow you will get all your progress back with 100 sacred crystals in the present box.

>> No.13259453

>>13259443
Thanks for the bullshit faggotry anon.

>> No.13259454

>>13259431
It'll be hilarious when another wave of people fall for this.

>> No.13259459

>>13259443
You should have stuck with 5-10 crystals, it would have been a lot more believable.

>> No.13259466

>>13259454
Eh. I'm gonna roll with it. The gamble of will they or won't they is more entertaining than the actual game.

I only really feel bad for tempting a friend that played legit since the beginning of the game with the power of the dark side.

Oh and that on one account which I didn't cheat crystals since the same, I tempted in myself and grabbed two hundreds on the belinda event. Didn't even spend them.

>> No.13259474

Nutaku a shit.
I cheated in jp version which caused my saved data to corruption but when I told the aigis staff about it they fixed my account the way it was and only said that they will not apologize this time.

>> No.13259478

>>13259466
Wait, you can cheat crystals?
That's news for me.

>> No.13259488

Okay is anybody from here registered on the ulmf forum? How the fucking hell long does their account approval take?

>> No.13259493

>>13259488
From one week to 6 months.

>> No.13259497

>>13259478
What, you thought everybody was doing the base gacha ten thousand times?

>> No.13259504

>>13259497
I though that changing crystal value or freezing it did not work.

>> No.13259505

>>13259488
no idea, I registered back when it didn't need approvals

>> No.13259506

>>13259504
You need to be a little wily.

>> No.13259513

>>13259506
Please teach me your ways senpai, I don't care if they ban me for it.

>> No.13259543

>>13259513
I'm sure that sabotaging small-time publishers bringing Japanese games to us is a fantastic long term plan.

>> No.13259551 [DELETED] 

>>13259513
...
Ah why the fuck not.

Listen closely, young grasshopper. Unlike in the flashier games, the value of the crystals does not hide behind mathematical obfuscation, but it is sometimes a sneaky critter nonetheless. Sometimes, the value you see is in reality a sum of two and attacking it will only cause them to split and your changes to vanish.
It is unknown where exactly the second comes from, sometimes it is from the login bonuses but other times the bonus merges with the first.
The only true source of the crystals are the map completions (the gift from Aigis after your training counts as well). If you have done them all, only the events remain. Thus was I tempted by the witch's charms.
To prevent the crystals from growing a tail, you may reduce them to zero and only then start your search. Or you may use incrementals, if you have enough steps laid out before you. Beware from spending them in this state, you may not know whether you spend the meaty ones or the useless tail. If it did not have a tail, you will end up with two values, the one you want is the one with the higher address. In case of a tail, you will find a number a little lower than what you see, this is normal.

Now, applying your change requires another trick. You should enter a combat, any map will do. Only in this state does the game expose it's belly for the injection.
But, careful you must be. Once at a time, you may only add up a hundred and ten. If you add even one more, even a 'real' one from completing a new map, it will spoil the broth and turn it to deadly poison.
Furthermore, you may never have more than two hundred, ninety and nine. Attempting to drink more than this, will too kill you.

But finally, with merely three steps, you will have the power to overcome the demoness of RNG, even if you will, in the end, burn with it.

>> No.13259556

>>13259513
...
Ah why the fuck not.

Listen closely, young grasshopper. Unlike in the flashier games, the value of the crystals does not hide behind mathematical obfuscation, but it is sometimes a sneaky critter nonetheless. Sometimes, the value you see is in reality a sum of two and attacking it will only cause them to split and your changes to vanish.
It is unknown where exactly the second comes from, sometimes it is from the login bonuses but other times the bonus merges with the first.

The only true source of the crystals are the map completions (the gift from Aigis after your training counts as well). If you have done them all, only the events remain. Thus was I tempted by the witch's charms.


To prevent the crystals from growing a tail, you may reduce them to zero and only then start your search. Or you may use incrementals, if you have enough steps laid out before you. Beware from spending them in this state, you may not know whether you spend the meaty ones or the useless tail. If it did not have a tail, you will end up with two values, the one you want is the one with the higher address. In case of a tail, you will find a number a little lower than what you see, this is normal.

Now, applying your change requires another trick. You should enter a combat, any map will do. Only in this state does the game expose it's belly for the injection.
But, careful you must be. Once at a time, you may only add up a hundred and ten. If you add even one more, even a 'real' one from completing a new map, it will spoil the broth and turn it to deadly poison.
Furthermore, you may never have more than two hundred, ninety and nine. Attempting to drink more than this, will too kill you.
But finally, with merely three steps, you will have the power to overcome the demoness of RNG, even if you will, in the end, burn with it.

>> No.13259571

>>13259556
Anyone who believes this won't get your account reset / banned is a complete idiot.

>> No.13259574

>>13259571
Of course it will! I even remind of it in the end.

But he knows and he asked, and it will be entirely on him if he does it.

>> No.13259616 [DELETED] 

>>13259556
[spoiler}CE now needs a licence[/spoiler}

>> No.13259620

>>13259616
April first.

>> No.13259812

Men's Battle hard! Accidentally send in my normal team, not my manly team. Still get 2*

Prince caps at Lv 99. He clutched through this one.

>> No.13259956

Reset guys report!
how far are you now?

Now that i know every level's layout until castle retake i'm flying throu the initial ones, stopped to get min-cost bronce guys and prepare for event. Premium gacha gave nothing better than silvers

Mind sharing your stories guys?

>> No.13259963

>>13259956
Done everything, 37 crystals in store for regachaing.

Did you really CE? How much?

>> No.13259991

>>13259812
Level caps at 99, but Prince's stats keep going up until level 200.

>> No.13259998

>>13259956
It's a hell of a lot faster than the first time, I'll tell you that much, particularly when you ignore charisma/stamina sinks until you know your deck is tough enough to 3 star them. Grinding pastoral gate now.

>> No.13260055

>>13259956
Made a second game alternating between them.
So far just grinding till I get to tower of the dead.
Kinda sucks that I dont have time in between to chill till level 40~

>> No.13260063

Meanwhile I'm going crazy on LOTV. Making alts (well, reactivating alts made for rerolls) and grinding them up to act as boss-spawners.

>> No.13260335

>>13259963
messed with gold...
wont mess with gold again...

>> No.13260542

i'm over this game
it was fun at first but...ehh.
too expensive too

>> No.13260590

>>13260542
Too expensive wut?

>> No.13260715

>>13260590
i believe he refers to leveling units, because yeah, that gets expensive quickly if you have bad luck on mondays daily

>> No.13260724
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13260724

Just logged into LoV to spend sta and...

Not even 1 boss from comrades
>Well that's weird

Dumped most of my sta, no boss
>This is scarying me

>> No.13261256
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13261256

Well thats 300k gone. I think I dropped like 130k on the fire one...ewww.

Best get my SHARO NECKTIE!

>> No.13261456

>>13261256
I would farm more carts if I were you

>> No.13261625

Some nips are posting their billing statements from playing Aegis on one of the fc2 blogs:
August - 20,000 ¥(double crystal campaign?)
September - 10,000 ¥
October - 20,000 ¥
November - 7,000 ¥ (Mel and Jessica Campaign)
December - 16,000 ¥ (some bonus campaign)
January - ~5,000 ¥
February - 2,000 ¥ for Liana Event
So he's spent around 80,000 Yen (~$670 at current Exchange Rate) in the last 8 months, not counting whatever he spent in March.

Another guy:
October - 105,000 ¥
November - 45,000 ¥
December - 60,000 ¥
January - ~70,000 ¥
February - 110,000 ¥
March - 45,000 ¥
(~$3,635).

A couple of other guys chime in and say they spend about 10,000 ¥ every other month.

Another guys been doubling the amount he spends every month.
November - 10,000 ¥
December - 20,000 ¥
January - 40,000 ¥
February - 80,000 ¥
He trails off here.

>> No.13261630

>>13261625
I think the guy who spent $3,000 says he's trying to get his waifu Black Saint Iris unsucessfully.

>> No.13261677

oh man what's with this new jp update skill change what is this

>> No.13261732
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13261732

What the hell is this?

She's not listed anywhere on either wikis and I can't feed her to anyone.

Also holy shit Mischa and Phyllis art change. They.....look weird as fuck. hm. Like they de-aged at least 10 years, and got skimpier armor.

I liked Phyllis better before.

>> No.13261736

>>13261732
New Fairy for Skill Awakening.

>> No.13261742

>>13261732
Mischa looks preggo, and Phyllis looks like a midget now.

>> No.13261750

>>13261732
>Mischa and Phyllis art change.
Can you post it?

>> No.13261753
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13261753

>>13261750

>> No.13261758

>>13261753
It looks better now.

>> No.13261759
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13261759

>>13261750

>> No.13261760
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13261760

>> No.13261767

>>13261758
The face looks better, but the rest is just weird.

Before everything was oversized, now everything is undersized.

I mean, her arm looks like a twig.

>> No.13261769

aaaand the desert story missions are gone

>> No.13261776

This has to be an april fools update, that fucking 10 stam event map...

>> No.13261783

Really finding it hard to restart after getting total shit with the refunded crystals and losing black + plats.

I need to figure out how to make a script to grind for me.

>> No.13261787

>>13261776
It's 10 Charisma, can't you read?

>> No.13261789

>>13261787
Yes, sorry, I'm just used to calling it stamina from pazudora. The cost isn't what I was talking about though.

>> No.13261791

>>13261776
NAVI is over powered! She killed all of my army of awakened blacks

>> No.13261799

>>13261791
You're supposed to not damage her first form much or else she goes super saiyan and fucks everything up.

>> No.13261816
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13261816

Are we getting a reward later for 3*, or is it just the 1 crystal?

>> No.13262272

6th time rolling for items and I still only get robes and armor.

>> No.13262301
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13262301

Screw getting more Pham, I need more Camus.

>> No.13262315

>>13262301
I know what I'm 4M next.

>> No.13262334

>>13261456
I have 3 carts+, a hyoka+ and ++, and a Mea+...Those are the continent 5 single element expeditions.

My problem is I have some great SRs, but ate most of my lower level cards. I only have 3 maxed Rs, and a couple that are about half done. I should take some time and grind up some more Rs, but I've been busy catching up with the main quest.

>>13262301
...and...which expeditions do you get her from?

>> No.13262338

>>13262334
The 3rd continent, dorongo castle, great success.

I'm guessing I got lucky again and shes a little hard to get like with Pham since noone else has mentioned her yet.

>> No.13262344

>>13262338
I think it's just that few people are farming dorongo. Her chance is probably similar to the chance of any other valk. I found Camus when I was going Dorongo in hopes for the blue demon girl which was supposed to drop there, but seems she's still not yet in the game and was replaced with Cecil again....

>> No.13262348

>>13262338
Thanks, Ya I see the mention of the different UC and Rs on the JP wiki, but haven't seen any new ones. Hmm, I didn't feel like it was all that hard to get Pham though. I've got my 4.

>> No.13262359

>>13262338
Great success outside Continent 1 is very hard. Getting great success and an [R] card to boot is really lucky man.

Getting [UC] Pham is hard as fuck and she's on a dungeon that is very easy to 100% great success.

>> No.13262446

>>13262301

Ok so Earth dragon keeps its Athena drop but Camus made it in. Now I can push past Quest 24 without regrets once I get there.

>> No.13262543
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13262543

I'm having some issues with clearing
armor of dead / gatehouse battle
even with guides, guess im jst bad
what should i be working towards?

>> No.13262590

>reaching Q12
>still want to farm birds for fire gear, which is harder to get otherwise
>also UC from eyes, I've only got a fuckton of cecils and a severe lack of other elements
What do, guys? Should I stall or is it not worth it?

>> No.13262611

>>13262543
Katie, Cyrus, or your platimum of choice all seem like good things to CC. Also try to lower the cost of some of your silvers.

>> No.13262667

I should take a break from long expeditions for the time being while I get my Rs properly done. Missing a Great Success hurts and it'd be silly to send in SRs to farm the early dungeons for expedition essentials. Time for my Gila reserves to sky rocket from all the behemoth bars.

>>13262590

Fire shield is really easy to get in expeditions. Fire armour is still an easy expedition farm. Fire sword will be inferior to a lotto weapon. Fire is not as important as Wind. Push on.

>> No.13262669

>>13262667
Ahh, the guide I've read was (obviously) pre-expeditions.
Alright then, thanks for into.

>> No.13263072

>>13262543
Yesterday I 2* Armor of the Dead and I can't seem to replicate that success ever again

Some funky shit going on.

>> No.13263078

>>13263072
That means you got lucky with timing. You should probably try finding that timing again or level more so you dont have to time properly.

>> No.13263117

What's a better farming map pre-Castle Retake, Tower Overwatch or Gatehouse Battle?

>> No.13263133

New thread

>>13263129

>> No.13263398

>>13263117

imo it's return to ruins, best fooder per cha

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