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First post goes for the next event

>>13202215
Apparently on the one after that, Colin has a 100% drop rate.

>>13208532
No Platinum Armor though.

>>13208543
You have made a convincing argument.

>>13201216
the 100,000 gold thing requires to sacrifice one of your silver units? It switches to a screen to select a silver unit, if it shows up depending on which one you choose.

Is it even worth it spending those free Sacred Crystals on the Premium gacha?

>>13208875
Seems so.

I heard the silver swapping thing was for like 2000g, which was why I thought you could just buy it straight up.

>>13208884
>>13208884
Usually only when there's a good chance up going on.

And before you ask, chance up doesn't actually change the drop rate of a rarity, just the ratio of the rarity that goes into a certain unit.

>>13208900
So spend all our crystals when the +def healer comes in?

>>13208923
Either her or Minerva.

>>13209177
What about Nanaly?

>>13209230
Nanaly is good, but not nearly as gamebreaking like the other two.

>>13209245
What are you talking about?
Nanaly skill is broken as hell for both damage AND you don't need to feed her rainbow fairies to be good.

Finally

>>13209727
so when are you going to change to a better title

>>13209793
cool down bro, i'll change it when i get another one, next one was at lvl 44 and even then AT (actual one) was better in my case for that mission than the Def (the lv 44 one)

>>13210022
Just use the skill increase title for your hero, it benefits all your units deployed and not just the stats of your prince like the other ones.

Anyone know how damn liches decide who to attack first? Would very much like to redirect attacks on my healers in Immortal Beast.

>>13210298
Unit that you placed last

>>13210312
not him, but I bet placing healers last would be really hard

>>13210312
...That explains a lot. So I really want to save up distractions for that final push, huh?

>>13210312
is it really that?

When facing the liches they always go for the closest unit to them, then the closest healer to them. The unit they kill first was the unit I placed second and the healer they focus I placed before my armor.

Why does Phyllis' portrait look so fucking terrible? holy shit, I don't even want to raise her affection

>>13210366

>>13210370
I decided to raise her affection cause I actually use her, because Julian and Katie aren't enough, and I don't have better soldiers. I hope she'll look cuter in her H scene, even male bandits have better facial aesthetics

>>13210383
you're in for a treat with her first one

41 Great Books on my gift box
no valks to use them on
help

>>13210454

This is why storage is one of the best things to spend cash on. Otherwise, hope Thursday's new content arrives on time and brings some fresh valks right out the door.

I for one could really use some new Earth valks to feed fodder to. At least I have a long backlog of fire/wind girls to feed while I wait.

For the new event, has Nutaku made any mention of whether they'll be scaling down the difficulty compared to JP like they did with the White Witch event?

>>13210533
What did they scale down in the White Witch event?

So how exactly does "reward depends on how many * you earnt in the maps" work? Do you only have one chance to 3* all the maps in the event? Or do you get to re-try the previous maps and it's only the last map that matters? What happens if you get a bad performance and want to retry?

>>13210339
If the unit placed last isn't in range, then they go for the unit closest to them. (So usually they'll hit the units on the ledge before the melee units come into their range). I think the problem is that their range got stealth nerfed at some point. Because in some of the older videos they'll hit the melee units right away, but when I follow the video, they'll hit my units on the ledge first. They still follow the "attack last unit placed" priority the rest of the time though, so I assume their range was nerfed at some point and that they can't reach the melee units right away because of it.

>>13210533
>>13210544
They didn't scale down anything. They rearranged the order of events though (because Dragonnewt is harder than Daughter of the Witch). Originally Dragonnewt came first.

>>13210627
It counts up total stars like Flower Knight Girls (this is where they based that system off of). You can do the maps as many times as you want.
So for example:
1* = you get shit
2* = you get shit
3* = the Event Unit joins you at level 1 with 1/5 skill and -0 cost.
4* = maybe -1 cost
5* = maybe 2/5 skill
6* = level 10 starting instead of level 1
You can get the Event Unit at level 50 + maxed skill + mincost if you get enough stars.

>>13210465
I hope they'll add some payment options soon, I'd love to throw money at the game for more storage space. Right now, I'm just hoarding all my login proof lottery gold because I don't want to play card lottery with basic space, where I'll just end up getting single copies of 10+ different cards.

>>13210628

"The difficulty will be suited to our community's average progression level." -From Nutaku's FB

Pretty confident they scaled down the difficulty from the JP version given the JP videos I saw of the event whereas I was able to 3 star the entire event and my only CC is Soma.

If nothing is scaled in this event, I'm not sure how many people will be able to 3* the levels with dragon mages given how much damage they dish out.

>>13210658
I... already see those options in the shop?

>>13210675
Just because they brought in a team full of CCed units doesn't mean you need a team full of CCed units.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baXmqNOkQbU
1 Healer, 1 Witch, 1 Mage, 1 Heavy Armor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Zv_E7neVc
3 CCed units, he only used two of them.
Nothing was scaled down unless it was a small enough to not matter.

Haha I can't believe they changed the strongest healer in the game with a crappy event healer, they didn't even bother changing her cost and stats.
Enjoy your inferior black.

>>13210675
>>13210688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYz-FdEqQ_c
This guy does it using just Prince + 1 Witch + 1 Mage + 1 Healer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHyjI0Otuvw
Here's one without a single CCed unit.

Yea. Pretty every single video you watched was from the reprint, at which point in time most people had full CCed units / a few Awakened units. Again, just because they easy-moded it with full Awakened Blacks doesn't mean it was any harder than our version.

>>13210679
I don't see any, unless you count the choice between MasterCard or Visa as different options.

I think they once mentioned something about planning to add more options, e.g. paypal, but I don't know how long it will take, especially since they still have lots of things to take care of.

>>13210701
Oh, you meant those. My bad, my bad.

>>13210688
>>13210698

I do genuinely appreciate the clarification. So does that mean the Dragon Newt event will be corresponding to the same difficulty as prior to reprint in JP?

Or should we start grinding like madmen in order to have units and healers capable of standing up to the dragon mages?

Nutaku should have a message asking "areyou sure you want to leave the page?"
You have no idea how many times i have exited the page in the middle of a map

>>13210675
>If nothing is scaled in this event, I'm not sure how many people will be able to 3* the levels with dragon mages given how much damage they dish out.
According to guys from previous thread, the original event (not reprints) was piece of cake, especially the mages being piss-weak and dealing physical damage.

Huh, I just got a Lv 10 La Qua from somewhere without killing a Dark Giant. Must be a drop from Tsars. Messed up that I'd only get one after 4 Melissa drops.

>>13210760

Yep, Already been corrected twice now, whoops. Going to point you to the question I already asked of does this mean this event will also correspond to the difficulty before reprint then?

>>13210777
We're not sure yet, you better hope so though. Otherwise the Dragonnewt Mages will hit as hard as Liches in Immortal Demon except they do AoE.

>>13210777
I expect them to be on the original run level, yes.

ONce i got to rank 3 i hit a brickwall in battles.
I didn't use a referral link but i got lucky on the regular lottery with a mirrow shield and cristal armor, but i have no decent weapons and im a lvl 13 fighting lvl 34.

Should i have failed the rank progressions fights willingly, at least the second one?

SHould i referral link?

>>13210850
Nvm, just got a Rafah GLass +5 from the free 100 gold i spent on a golden lotery token.
I just cant stop winning. Lvl 12 with 6k attack and 1,2k pyshical and magic defense. This is absurd but pretty fun.

>>13210896

I expect early PvP to be a matter of "did you get lucky with a lotto weapon?" - nothing else matters that early on.

I've just 3* castle retake, I should be good for the next event right?
How do you beat dwarf battle, no matter what I've tried I've lost?

>>13210969
Is Castle Retake the one with the Lich at the end?

Soo, I'm trying out Valkyrie. Is there any significant priority to the stats? I.e. can I raise them around equally, or should I focus on one that's good in the beginning or is one the king on top level so I should raise it up all the way?

>Farming some story missions.
>Run out of charisma.
>Wait for it to refill.
>Start new mission, it might level me up so I would restore all my charisma.
>Browser crashes and I lose all of it.

>>13211249
start by focusing on stamina until you've quested far enough to start spawning neos and tsars, then focus on force and help your friends. I'd say basically start adding charisma once you receive your first SR

I WANT A MELISSA I WANT A MELISSA I WANT A MELISSA PLLLLLSSSS TSARS DROP A GOD DAMN MELISSA

>>13211249

What you level doesn't matter until at least Rs so take whatever charisma is necessary to keep making progress in quests. The rest can go into stamina. You won't have a need for force until you can contribute meaningfully, which is after your comrades have given you some SRs by punching your bosses.

Oh, but you do need ~50 force to be able to call for help once you do spawn big bosses.

Lol does this happens often?
i had 66 units, did wolf pack and got 5 drops (4 normal and 1 for completed drop) and saw my 71/70 units

>>13211469
It happens like 99% of the time you're almost full before a mission. You're allowed to go over your inventory limit as long as you had free space before the mission.

>>13211272
>>13211402
Okay, I see how to go. Thanks.


..Am I missing something or does Valkyrie really not have an option to rewatch scenes?

>>13211469
Yeah, often. It's not a bug, it's a special overflow feature.

>>13211501
Oh nevermind, found it.

>>13211500
>>13211501
ok i see, tha't neat

>>13211501
Search for the card list.

>>13211148
Yes, it was kinda easy killing the lich but I kept being too slow at retreating one person, In the end I just retreated the frontline I had of a mage, a witch and my princess, waited for him to get in range of the first line then placed a lvl 40 heavy armour directly on him, then replaced the ranged slots with a second healer and a archer and killed the lich so slowly.

>>13211501

Oh, one thing: if you're trying to collect UC H scenes, be sure to collect the copies from those that only drop from bosses. Quest too far and earlier bosses will never spawn again for you (in which case you have to resort to finding lowbie comrades and punching their bosses).

While I'm busy farming Fountain with all my stamina, another reason why I haven't advanced beyond Quest 21 is that I want to be sure I'm not going to miss Camus if the drop tables change - she's supposed to be the R drop for Earth Dragon.

>>13211683
If I get interested enough for that, I'd just make a secondary alt account and use them for boss spawning.

>>13210769
You mean...how lucky of you

I just recently got my first melissa. I've gotten 2 La Qua from Tsars, and I think 4 of the silly swords.

>>13211768

Ever since I made a habit of burning login proofs for jewels, I've punched every single Tsar (and neo/dread) I saw. There was luck but I gave luck a lot of chances.

>>13211683
It seems like most of the UC's will drop from the dungeon investigations if you're past the mega bosses that drop them.

Also Camus is supposed to drop from one as well as a lv25 version drops from the wind neo idoneus whenever that comes out.

>>13212539
do you know if the fire armor will drop from dungeon investigations

>>13212802
im interested in this also, i'm missing a fire left hand item for the type advantage

>>13212802
It looks like one drops on the third stage of the third continent.
>>13213375
you can get the dragon shield from winning rank 9 pvp

>>13208390
i quite like somas second sex scene

team composition is hard

so this black unit gets 2 different affection bonuses are the 2 bonuses pretty small to compensate or is it slaughter time

hm what to raise next i wanna fuck cloris but i wanna dominate the battlefield with cypria

So what's with the LoV update they mentioned and why should we care?

>>13213707
because new content i suppose

Should I use my sacred crystals on stamina, to try and get Fairy Queen Chydis with the demon crystals before the new event? Is she a good healer?

>>13214076
Get her if you don`t have a healer higher than Gold and yes she is a good healer

>>13214076
I think using crystals on that isn't worth it. You need a hell lot of runs to get her.

Save them for events.

>>13214094
I only have Dorca and Alissa who aren't even CCed, so I am pretty fucked in the healer department
>>13214107
Yeah, I think it'll cost me about 9 crystals since I can only do N daily. But can I clear the event without a good healer?

>>13214120
Yes. The most "OMGITSHARD" reactions are from a reprint of the event, which was buffed hugely. Everybody else expects the original run, which was pretty easy.

>>13214120
Try getting her after you make units that can beat H easily. 2 well leveled Silver healer should be enough for the next event.

How do i beat Phalanx 2?

>>13214253
3 witches (one CC is fine, I start with two in the centre, one on the right and one on the bottom, then one on the bottom ranged unit area), cheap roadblock if needed (I use the Prince), then mage in the centre left

>>13214253
A maxed out awoken Despara can blow through the whole thing without help from a single other unit.

Currently level 50, up to Castle Retake in missions.
Have a CC'd Cecily, Soma, Katie, Cloris, Alissa and Leanne.
Who do I focus on levelling next? Got Fedora healer, Belinda, Phylis, Dorca, Themis and Valerie

In valkyrie for PvP, should i focus on magic or physical defense?

>>13214463

Given win-stick is magic attack, may want to focus on magic defence. Though really, having a ridiculous attack is much better than trying to raise defence.

>>13214499
i have the ridiculus attack covered for now. Got lucky on the golden lottery. Im a lvl 20 beating lvl 38's.

>>13214462
Assuming they all at lvl 30 or more I'd say Phylis, Belinda would also be a great choice.

>>13214499
>Given win-stick is magic attack, may want to focus on magic defence.
Win stick? (newbie here)
Is that +20 thing with 16k damage?

How would any defense help at all against it?
(Is the formula something else than atk minus def?)

>>13214253
level 40 to 50 CC witch at R, ideally high affection.
30 to 50 witch at P. Ideally high affection.

You have an option select here now.
First is meat wall
Prince at I
Retreat prince when health gets low, put a level 30 to 40ish mage at S
Put a bronze armor at I
Retreat when health gets low
Put a bronze soldier at I
Retreat
Put a bronze soldier at I
Retreat
Put a bronze soldier at I
Retreat
Put a bronze soldier at J
Retreat
Put a bronze soldier at J
Retreat
Put a bronze soldier at J
Retreat
Put a bronze soldier at J
Retreat.
Armors should be dead by now. If not put more bronze soldiers. All bronze min cost.

Second option is pure magic.
The witch at P needs to be 50.
Level 50 Witch at Q
Prince at L
Level 40 Bronze min cost Mage at S
Have two to four other mages in backup to make up any slack. If required, retreat a mage right after he fires, then place another mage. Repeat as many times as possible and required.

A lot simpler but requires more levels and affection.

>>13214540
Where do you get maps like these? I'd like to have one for every quest, along with the tactics

>>13214551
Check the OP, there is a link to the Japanese wiki.

>>13214551
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/

Under ゲームプレイ are the missions. Story, daily, event, subjugation, quest, in that order. Quest is a drop down list, Third under quest are the challenges.

From there you either find maps by costs or look for something with a similar name. Phalanx 2 for example would be a 3 cost quest 3 down from a quest with a 3 in the name, with another 2 above it. You could use machine but machine is really terrible and you won't really be able to find them by name most the time.

If you click on one of them and scroll down there's youtube and nico links with auto search inputs for that map, scroll down even further and there's embedded videos.

The videos are generally more useful because they are the noteworthy ones, the ones you find through search could be anywhere between nothing but irons to an entire team of max awakened units.

>>13214295
Yeah and I can just put down Despara, Adell and two Belindas (all max level, max affection) and watch the fireworks, but it doesn't help the newbie.

Next event global infos: http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%ce%b5%bf%cd%a4%ce%bf%af%b9%b6%b9%b6%ce%ac

And for vids, just put that: 千年戦争アイギス 竜人の侵攻 in Youtube or Nico.

Finally!

>>13214629
Shit, the last mission of the dragonnewt event seems hard. Do you think a 50CC40 Leeanne will be enough to tank the final lizard boss and his two mages or do we absolutely need a Valkyrie/Princess?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcPvXDHXaeg

>>13214765
If Nutaku will take the initial run without alterations, the mages are actually dealing physical damage, so an armor will laugh at them.

If they're taking a rerun version, then things are getting harder, yes.

Guys i can't deal with castle retake until i cc more units, so which map means better fooder per cha?
Right now i'm farming at Gatehouse Battle

>>13214502

What level you are is less relevant than what weapon you have for a long time. 50 level difference means nothing if the opponent doesn't have a lotto weapon.

>>13214530

Yes, the Askelopis. Defence doesn't really help against it but since the question was asked, may as well give the marginally better answer. I suppose when you are high level (i.e. fat HP) and you have powerful valks to back up your lotto, the small difference can matter.

>>13214805

Return to Ruins gives you the highest level fodder pre-Castle Retake. I grinded a long time there then bust through that lich.

Any particular reason why everyone CCs Soma? I prefer Daniela those tits

Why are male units so weak compared to equivalent female units?
What's the point of including them?

>>13214956
What? Male units have noticeably higher base stats? Are you comparing trash irons/bronzes with the Silver females?

>>13215000
I mean the affection bonus is noticably higher on female units and is much easier to farm compared to male units.

>>13214948
Her skill increases range instead of attack. Also, Bellinda Event Final Map dropped Somas, so it's probably easier for people to mincost her.

>>13214948
Range > Sheer power

>>13214880
i see tyvm, when my cha recharges i'll start grinding there

monday when
I am so fucking broke after manually 50ing two units without platinum armors

>>13215059
In about... 18 and half hours?

>>13215008
Yea, and Male Units have higher base stats to even it out.

Just realised I'm actually making a dent in my LoV bank now. Still have 1.4 million but this means I should sell my UCs not eat them. Well... that and I have 10+ silver bars waiting for pot lids.

Meantime in Aigis, I'm multitasking grinding on Milihime with clicking 2k gold summons. It takes time to spend all this money and I know I'll just refill come Monday.

Soo, in my rerolling for lottery attempts, I got two accounts with good weapons - a 8,7k sword and wand. Is magic attack significantly better than physical in general application?

>>13215280
>Well... that and I have 10+ silver bars waiting for pot lids.
Huh, you can do that?

How much to they gain?

>>13208390
>>Grind table by an anon:
>http://imgur.com/y90G0cS
What does the "Combine to level" column mean? How much XP you get from feeding a unit of that level to another?

Oh cool, I got 4 La Qua drops now. Finally I can forget she (and dark giants) exists.

>>13215452

How many same-element Lv1 C fodders (i.e. Quest 1-1/1-4 drops) to feed to level up, assuming no "crit feeds".

>>13215434

+5% per level, so I like to feed 7 pot lids (700G) to make each silver bar worth 3000G more.

>>13215586
>How many same-element Lv1 C fodders (i.e. Quest 1-1/1-4 drops) to feed to level up, assuming no "crit feeds".
Huh. Is there information of how much more advancement do the higher level fodders give?

>>13215597
Not him, but im wondering, is it even worth it to level a card before feeding it to a valkyrie?

>>13215633
I think only for lvl 1 Fodders, and you lvl them to lvl 2. But not because you get more XP, but because it costs less gold.

What Event Unit is everyone else most looking forward to coming over from JP Aegis?

>>13215597

EXP value of fodder:

Base = 1 (C), 2 (UC), 5 (R) or 20 (SR)
Same element = +1
For every even level = +1 (so +1 for Lv 2, +2 for Lv 4, +6 for Lv 12)

Lv 1 C fodders are the most stamina-efficient way to grind, but your gold reserves will deplete quickly if you solely rely on them. There is no point spending stamina to earn gold.

>>13215633
>>13215724
To further elaborate: if you're feeding a wrong-element level 1 fodder, it only gives 1 xp.
While a level 2 fodder will give 2 (plus same element bonus if applicable)
So feeding 20 level 1 fodders is same as feeding 10 level 2 fodders you get from merging them beforehand, but it will cost you much less gold.
However, if all of them are the right element, then 20 level 1s will give 40xp while 10 level 2s will give 30xp.

>>13215724

Personally I could never tolerate the amount of clicking necessary to save that little gold. Once you're at a decent PvP rank, gold is not hard to come by if you happen to catch all your comrades without bosses before you're about to sleep/leave house. Idoneus bars are good staple anyway.

>>13215011
>>13215029
Can I CC Daniela or will that just fuck myself over later?

>>13215948
It'll be fine, you'll just have to live with knowing you picked disgusting cowtits first.

>>13215948
Yes, you can, it's not a big deal.

Do I have too many fairys? I'm sitting on
8x Black
3x Platinum
18x Gold
3x Silver

Can anyone tell me if this LoV update has any quests past Coast of Dusk?

>>13216024
Of the gold ones? yes?
I'd go ahead and use half of the gold to level up some units.

guys quick question
at what time (in UTC or EST or whathever just clarify which one) does the new day starts for aigis?

For example in Lov it's 5 a.m. on US eastern time

>>13216519

UTC 10:00am normally, 9:00am right now because the US enters summer time earlier than the UK.

In short, the same as LoV.

Return to Ruins is kicking my ass, christ. How do you deal with this? So many armors.

>>13216607
You tank them, then kill them with Mages / Witches while they're fighting your melees.

Pretty new here, I CC'd Daniela first because I saw many videos using archers and wondering which unit to CC next.

Bellinda/Cloris, Alyssa, Leeanne or Katie?

>>13216607
i go:
Archers > R,S
Katie (or equivalent) > A
Valkyrie/Princes > B
Healers > J,P
Witch> Q
Mages > O,K,L, M / i

>>13216628
You need to give priority to cc a healer and heavy armor since you already cc'd an archer

>>13216548
I see, ty

>>13216607
>>13216644
and prince on F sorry

>>13216644
>>13216647
Thanks anon, I'll try it out when I get enough Charisma

So I finally 3-stared Castle Retake, Immortal Beast is the only mission that I havent cleared yet, any advice for the 3 liches?

Quick thing, Shaena... You're suppose to give the final blow on whatever mega boss you request support for.

>>13216644
>>13216694
Tried it, got rolled again. All the units I was using are level 20; didn't even get far enough to be able to place the Mages. What unit levels do I need? CC units?

>>13216798

Trying to remember how I did it the first time round. I do recall putting down 3 bronze archers for the first flyer wave. In general, get witches out early for an armour push. Healers are only meaningful once you have DPS. Until then you can cycle expendable min-cost bronze dudes and Phyllis/Katie to stem the tide.

I did grind a lot of Wolves' den before attempting Return to Ruins though. You don't need every unit to be high level, but at least your tanks should be.

>>13216798
I cleared it a few days ago with levels 25-30 and no CC units. I used this video as a guide.

I had to withdraw my bottom archer when the 2nd mage came out(it's not show in that video though) since I only have the base silver healers.

>>13216821
Didn't link the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IT02MCsVaA

What's the max gold count in Aigis?

>>13216826
What the hell, the first black armor just rolls over my level 20 Leanne even with two healers on her.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

>>13217091
Maybe your healers are too weak if you're just using 2 silver healers That aren't over level 20.

>>13217110
Yeah, I guess I have to grind a bunch. Best grinding spot at this point?

>>13216909
99.999.999

>>13217120
Who are you?
what's the last map you cleared?

>>13217412
Same guy as before, still trying to get past Return to Ruins.

>>13217412
oh sorry didn't follow the post correctly, well i farmed deep forest road a LOT before even moving on

i would say that tomb of sorrow since the drops are lv 10 there
any level before that is lv 7 or below

>>13217120
I did Royal Road since you can put down your units and then fast forward to the end really easily.
Also, I would get 50% affection on Leeanne and a healer if you haven't already.

How do I get past Dwarf Battle? What the fuck is this shit?

hm i probably have to many rogues in my army i have gone a little overboard because i have so many good rogues

>>13218055
rogues might just be the worst class

>>13217854
I have no clue either, I'm guessing I'm gonna have to wait till I got far stronger stuff.

>>13217854
I used my Bernas and prayed to RNG gods for assassination to proc. Maybe you could get by with Cypria.

Though Dwarf Battle isn't as bad as War of Magic after that. THAT map is bullshit. Even JP players think it's the one map you should use the "increase starting unit points" bonus in the shop for.

Anyone got any videos of the monday daily hard, can't find it on the jp wiki myself.

>>13218679
Put "千年戦争アイギス 新魔水晶の守護者　上級" on You Tube

>>13218679
Here's one with only KT and Leeanne CCed:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25428839

>>13218700
Crystals are Thursday, dude
Monday Hard is 千年戦争アイギス 黄金の鎧 上級

Good way to start Monday daily ^v^

week 3

still no sign of the fabled hard platinum armor

beginning to wonder if it even exists

>>13218704
Thanks, I used that format to 2* it, gonna tweak it a bit to stop the trash that drops nothing getting through.

>>13214266
Are you Eth Eternal?

>started LotV yesterday, soon enough spammed the /jp/ list with comrade request
>immediately got to assist on five emperors and a couple others
Being in an active community is kicking all kinds of ass. You guys are awesome.

>>13218749
you should see one like every 20 stamina on hard so without crystals that's like one per week...

>>13219177
That's about how it was when I was doing normal

But since I switched to hard, despite having more than double the chance, I have yet to see a single one in 3 weeks now. Just used the last 3 stamina for jp monday, another 5 golden armors.

>>13219190
Actually it's exactly double the chance per stamina.

>>13219084
you must have gotten a pretty good lotto weapon if you are able to put up support #s on your second day

>>13219655
says the guy who passed 200K damage
>Still no winstick on day 70+

>>13219084
yeah people here are very active, that's why we keep playing i guess, because when we need help there's always people on helping, and when they need it you just have to hit it a few times because of every one punching them bosses so hard
>tsar says not just a few times

>>13219655
Yeah it's the Asklepios.

What a shame, even Haunted Soul is better than this.

>>13219681
It's just really nice to participate. Although activity seems to wax and wane, been silent today so far.

>>13219681

Nutaku's delay in securing new content has meant our power level is bloated compared to the available bosses. Once super fat bosses get in, it'll be like old times when we're blowing our whole force bar just to qualify for assist.

Best run so far, not a single plat for the last 3 weeks

>>13219741
That sucks, have you tried your luck with Hard?
The droprate there is much higher.

>>13219741
I had terrible luck today as well. 1-2 gold armor per run, no plats for 2 weeks

>>13219741
Don't give up, try to get your team ready for Hard runs next week.
I had three unlucky weeks with no drops but today I was blessed with two drops in 8 Hard attempts.

>>13219655
swedcarp do you know how to join the chat everyone talks about in ulmf/hongfire spreadsheet?

What is Valkyrie Crusade? is it new version of LoV or something?

>>13219853
Not at all, it's a mobile game, the collecting card game type.

>>13219736
i'm already blowing like half my force bar to qualify as assist on tsars

>>13219778
>>13219748
i could clear Hard once, and not any anymore, i have yet to cc and level up more units, atm bashira is my only cc and everyone else is still at 37~
So i've been farming and leveling but that money usage is hard to keep up to with no plats around and little golds per monday
Gonna on Hard again next monday

>>13218715

Huh, I did not know we could get to 6 gold drops. Anyway, 2 EXP armours, I guess I'm done spending crystals this week. Finally Phyllis can get class changed too and Christoph won't be far off.

>>13220503
You can get 8 from Extreme-Tier.

>>13220527
Extreme tier doesn't have better platinum rates though so fuck it, just costs more stamina for more gold.

Anyone know what the drop rates are like between the Tuesday difficulties though?

>>13220659
Except it does? 20% instead of 15% from Hard.

Huh, I knew Aigis Lv 101 would get me +1 max Stamina but I did not expect a Sta refill too.

>>13220665
Really? I guess I shouldn't go trusting everything I read from random Aigis bloggers then.

>>13215724
>>13215751
>>13215758
Is elemental fountain worth it then? Would it just be less exp but less gold?

>>13220906
Yeah, fountain is good on stam-exp ratio, I think. Bonus for no shitty equip drops.

>>13220919

Quest 21-2 was considered good and that only dropped Lv 8 Cs for slightly more sta. I'm burning login proofs to keep grinding fountain while it's around.

I..I just want some plat fairies... (second one in a row today)

>>13220995
I just want some Silver Fairies. About a hundred and fifty or so. ;_;

>>13220995
jesus man i'd trade you in a heartbeat

>2 crystals later
>Got to my highest gold ever
>Still no plat
>Decided it's not worth using crystals on that

also what is that reward?

>>13221535
For male bonding

>>13220978
Ya I agree...I'm thinking on dumping my last one all into stamina...makes me wish I had a little more to start. I'm rolling with 96/129 without bonus.

On a related note, are any of you keeping a little extra points aside for when SSRs come? Anyone have an educated guess on when that would be?

>>13221836
Points to throw into charisma that is

>>13221535
Using crystals for monday instead of gacha is more and more worth it the more non-maxed good units you have. Sounds like you don't have much cooler than your Bashira so eh go get another plat

>>13221953
I'm guessing gacha is the only way to get the higher rarity units?

>>13222061
No not at all, platinums from events are incredibly common, sometimes even blacks, then there's trading in demon crystals/dragon crystals, that can get you black units if you save up, and gold units are attainable in relative abundance in gold rush events, which is neat since you can clear endgame stuff with just proper use of awoken golds. Plus, anything (i think) in the crystal gacha has an incredibly slim chance of showing up in the 2k gold gacha.

Hey guys, anyone got space for one more LoV comrade? I think about half of my list barely or don't play anymore.

Name: weras

>>13222061
Events give Golds, Platinums (almost always), and Blacks. Usually the Event Units are different from the Gacha Units though (except in Gold Rush).

Magic Crystals and SP Crystals can both get Golds, Platinums, and Blacks.

>>13222130
You can even clear most endgame with Silvers if you mincost them. The only maps you can't do it with, are usually the DPS-race God-Tier maps.

Well that was quite a monday, 4 xp armors just off of base stam regen.

>>13222591
1 stamina refill and 2 hardmode fails later, I have 0 platinums and only 200k gold, this was a disaster

Should I buy Cyrus this Thursday or save for Chydis?

>>13222845
Honestly, I don't know how good Chydis is. but she's a healer that isn't silver, and I only have Silver healers. so she's probably gonna be number 1 if it was me.
but Seesh, 200.

Got my exp armour and 3* hard mode to finish off the daily, only need 3 more CC and atleast one of those I'm gonna level manually.
I guess that'll be my cue to start maxing levels out.

>>13221836
>>13221843
well you would need 174 cha for a full SSR++ team so i keep bumping up from time to time, i'm now at 110

>>13221836

With comrade bonus, I've hit 138 cha yesterday for a full SR++ team. Not going to raise it further until we get confirmation of SSRs showing up - it's not like I'll be able to make 3 SSR++ that fast. More likely, I'll have a single SSR++ with SR++ which will be a more manageable cha goal.

>>13222919
>SSR
aren't those only books right now?

how is Rescue the Spirit H compared to Golden Armor H?

Can anyone confirm my thinking?

Grind Pastoral Road and discharge the units in order to grind for gold, swap with grinding Return to Ruins for Combination Fodder.

Rinse and repeat until I finally have another Lvl 50 to CC?

I've been stuck at Castle Retake and these past 2 Mondays have not dropped a single Platinum. I primarily just want to get past Castle Retake and get to Dragon Hunting to use that for farming for Combination Fodder.

I've already manually grinded both Katie Belinda to 50 and CCed them. My last CC is Soma (which I got to 50 using Plat).

What should I grind up next to prepare myself for both the event and for getting past Castle Retake and farming Dragon Hunting? From Plat to Silvers: Adele 35, Dahlia 30, Kerry 38, Bernice 40 (already at a point a single Plat would max her), Cloris 40 (already at a point a single Plat would max her), Stray 25, Valerie 40, Alissa 40, Dorca 40.

>>13223774
I cleared castle retake with only a cced HA
Having two mincosted iron soldiers helped to quench the initial goblin rush, allowing me to deploy mages and healers. I still barely made it, but you have better units than I did.
I dunno the girls by names, so, do you have a princess? Cause I have Themis and she helped a bunch

In general, I think a powerful HA or a healer is most important for clearing castle retake, mages won't kill anything if it walks away. I'd invest in Bernice and CC her right away, you already have higher level healers than I did

>>13223774
You'll also need a CC'd mage if you want to clear the last mission of the event efficiently.

So basically : Berenice, Healer (two would be better) and a mage.

>>13223774

Pastoral gate is an acceptable gold grind spot. Deep forest road is also an option - don't have the numbers with me to compare right now. They both pale compared to monday crystal burning to farm golds at Hard, but given that's past go for it.

To push from 40 to 50, consider burning fairies to save gold: 3 fat bronze + 1 fairy.

>>13216826
>>13217091
>>13217110
Still getting rolled with two lv25 healers and a lv25 Leanne, but at the second armor spam instead

What. This is hopeless.

>>13223948
Okay nevermind that, I managed to pass it with 2 stars and much sweating after 3 tries. Almost feels like RNG because my setup didn't change between those 3.

Thanks for the help guys.

>>13223804

Sadly I don't, I've seen videos of how effective princesses are on Castle Retake which makes me super sad/jelly I didn't get a single one when I burned Crystals on the Premium roll during the event.

The units are Plat Witch, Plat Valk, Gold Valk, Gold Heavy Inf, Gold Witch, Gold Archer, Silver Mage, Silver Healer, Silver Healer.

>>13223821

Do you think having one Healer CCed and the other remain at 40 is sufficient or should I go for both prior to the mage?

>>13223944

Pastoral Gate returns Expected G/C of 145.83, but Max G/C of 216.67 (if all 5 drops are obtained) whereas Deep Forest Road returns Expected G/C of 147.50 with a max G/C of 182.50. Deep Forest Road is better XP / C though at 11.40 vs 10.25.

Not really sure which one would be better in all honesty. Additionally, is 3 Bronze + 1 Fairy more or less efficient than 2 Bronze + 2 Fairies?

I appreciate everyone's input/assistance, just trying to catch up to everyone else since I started earlier this month.

>>13224024
>Plat Valk
I think she can replace the Princess in Castle Retake, the enemies are mostly ogres, and Princesses mostly shine against armors

Princesses aside, are Valks in any way better duelers than Thieves? The evasion thing sounds like it can be pretty bullshit at high levels, I already have the platinum thief tank armors with luck, and the oneshot skill is OP as fuck

>>13224024
>Additionally, is 3 Bronze + 1 Fairy more or less efficient than 2 Bronze + 2 Fairies?

Assuming the bronze fodder are all the same level, there is no difference in the result between 3+1 vs 2+2. But fairies are harder to get than bronze guys unless you plan to manually fatten up the bronze guys beforehand. I was satisfied with the Lv 14 bronze dudes from Return to Ruins.

>>13224024
>Additionally, is 3 Bronze + 1 Fairy more or less efficient than 2 Bronze + 2 Fairies?
Less efficient? Say a bronze alone gave 100XP and you are using the right fairy.
2 Fairies: (100 + 100) * 4 = 400
VS
1 Fairy: (100+100+100) * 2 = 600

However, things might change if the bronze give your character different XP each.
For example. I have 3 bronze on me, they give 100, 165, and 70 xp respectively. if I include all three and use one fairy I get 670xp.
HOWEVER, if I only use the first two bronze, and use two fairies instead, I'll get 1060xp.
Things seem to change a little when the xp from the units differ from each other.

>>13224677

Drat, I got mixed up with 3 fairy vs 2 fairy. Yeah, 1 fairy gets you more EXP for same bronze fodders.

>>13224846
>Yeah, 1 fairy gets you more EXP for same bronze fodders.
It doesn't.

>>13224703
>2 Fairies: (100 + 100) * 4 = 400
That should be 800.

Also for the case case of wrong fairy, going like this
(100+100)*2.25=450
(100+100+100)*1.5=450
So that gives equal rewards, but given that fairies are harder to come by, 3 bronze wins.

In 3F vs 2F, on right quality fairy and same fodder it's equal; on wrong fairy it's 337.5 vs 450.


Basically, due to multiplication, adding the first equal unit is the same as adding one right-quality fairy, so it's generally a good choice if your unit is more abundant than your fairies. You're going to go down on XP, however, if your second unit is worse than the first unit.

>>13222919
>>13222962
Ya...Iv'e got 138 right now as well...I was just thinking on planing ahead a little since points are slower to come by as our lv grows. However, I guess it would take some luck and time to get a 2M SSR when they were released anywho. Plus, we all have good R cards that we could throw in a team with them.

>>13223575
naw...there isn't anything SSR right now, but there will be supposedly

>>13224893
>>2 Fairies: (100 + 100) * 4 = 400
>That should be 800.
Whoops. My bad. Hate it when I make simple mistakes like that.
In which case, more 2 fairies IS better than one. but 3 fairies don't make much difference.
Except when it comes with plat armors. simply because it's unlikely to have plat armors in excess compared with fairies.

Two rainbow fairies in a row on Spirit Rescue N.

That was pretty lucky

>>13224974

Yeah this happens. >>13224846 was a case of trying to multi-task while sick.

>>13225110
I just got one. Still, pretty lucky. Now I don't know what to do with it considering it's my first rainbow fairy.

Sup /jp/ how's hunting?
mine's pretty nice actually, compensating for shitty drop rate yesterday i guess

>Kepp getting blacks
>Still no black unit
>I just want plats
>No plats to be seen

So i finally cc'd soma... that range tho

>>13225247
Unit farming is going well. I have nowhere near enough Fairies though.

>>13225247
Skipping it this week. I got the fairies I needed from normal last Friday, and I'm not prepared for hard.

Belinda was amazing for Monday hard daily though, so I'm gonna try Wednesday and Thursday's hard dailies. Probably gonna grind for Chydis too.

>>13225726
Whoops, forgot my picture.
>15x same Platinum Alchemist
>10x same Platinum Bandit
>1x Platinum Fairy

>9x Leanne
>7x Elaine
>4x Phyllis
>8x (+1 CCed Fodder) Sannosuke
>6x Kagerous I won't ever use
>0 Silver Fairies

Are we gonna talk about this?
Are those REALLY useful?

>>13226476
those rings and necks*

Anyone still need Armor of the Dead 3*? I have the video but dunno if people even still need Story Map videos (other than Immortal Demon).

>>13226831
I do. Managed to 1* it before the update somehow, but I keep getting blitzed now. Not enough time to set my units up.

why is gift from the sky hard so easy, it's like on par with normals of all the other dailies if not easier

Is it me or do the daily login notifications no longer appear for LoV? It just goes straight into my gift box and I have to check it to see what I got

Guys, thanks a lot for helping me a lot. LoV would have been painfully hard without your supports. Either way I'm quitting the game due to life stuff and I can't even keep up with login bonuses

So feel free to replace me now. That's all. So yeah thanks again guys

>>13227775
Best of luck to you, friend.
Remember to take it easy.

How is this girl? Is she better than Themis?

>>13227720
They appeared fine just now for me.

>>13228469
Yes. Almost a hundred more attack (with affection, she's lower than Themis without it) and fifty more defense

>>13228505
..Hold on, I looked at the wrong one for the aff bonus.
Lilia is still better in attack than Themis even without affection bonus.

I never played jp version, does awakening mean more h-scenes, or it doesn't raise affection cap?

>>13228514
Neither.

>>13227720
I know it happens if you are on around the same time the new day starts...the login notification gets skipped. Has happened to me multiple times

>>13226831

Guessing you're Eth Eternal. In all honesty, all of the Story Map videos are stupid useful for just getting an idea of what good unit positions are required and what's required (lvl wise for various unit types) to get through it.

I'd like it, since I'm still stuck at Castle Retake and will inevitably require it once I get past it. Never everyone started at the beginning, so for those of us late to the game, the videos are incredibly helpful.

Question. In LoV, should I bother making 4M Uncommonn cards? Or is this something you should do with Rare and higher?

>>13228958
Don't bother, it's a waste of resources.

>>13227775

Thanks for letting us know. Peace out.

>>13228958

Well, if that UC is your waifu then you could make an argument. From an optimisation perspective, reserve that treatment for SRs - a couple Rs may qualify depending on your gacha stance.

>>13228973
>>13229017
That's what I figured. The money and cards were better spent on other cards.

So the most I should even bother with is around 4B for UC? or between 4S and 4B? And same question for Rare?

Man the deluxe stamp card system in Aigis is great for beginners since it's easy to get 50 crystals in your first month of playing. If anyone's thinking of starting the japanese version, try at the start of next month.

>>13229062
just 4B all of them, honestly
even if you have no better cards, you'd only use UCs for a little while until Rs and SRs become avaliable

>>13228933
>Eth Eternal
Nope, I'm Video Anon. The video is going up, but it'll take a few minutes to upload.

>>13227775
farewell bro, may luck be in your path

>>13229323
Here it is. Forgot to turn off my music before recording.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6eIH27s_TE&feature=youtu.be

>>13229062
I get confused on the standard you're using...I think 4S is straight to ++, and 4B is the same as the standard used here a bunch (2S2M) which is unleveled to +, then max to get ++.

Anywho...you don't really need to max any of the UC cards, in any fashion. Go straight to ++ if you can. Level them only enough to be able to hit what you need to until you can spawn lv 8 dragons...which is where you will pick up your first Rs...and then a couple more with glimmers.

Rs are a more debated subject. There are a couple that are potentially worth 4M, but a number that are definitely worth 2S2M.

Unrelated note: just checked and noticed a Tsar was left to rot.....I hit it like 9 times. Grrrrrrr

>>13229334
oh snap....sorry to see ya go. Thanks for the heads up. Appreciate it

What class should I CC first?

>>13227775
oops. Obvious mistake. Above is response.

>>13229425
>I get confused on the standard you're using...I think 4S is straight to ++, and 4B is the same as the standard used here a bunch (2S2M) which is unleveled to +, then max to get ++.
It's confusing, yes. As far as I gather there are two systems of referencing
1)S and M - S means no levels, M means max levels, and it uses number to show the exact sequence. 4S no levelling until ++ at all; 2S2M - levelling the + cards; 4M - levelling everything. B is not used in this system.
2)B, S and M, no numbers. B means "baseline", i.e. without any levels ever, M means maxed, i.e. all levels an S is medium. http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=629407&postcount=500

>>13228514
affection is capped at 100.

What awakening does is provide a second CC, except they get a massive stat growth and sometimes a unique passive skill akin to Prince.

Take Carrie/Karrie/Carry/whatever it is in english for example. Max CC base stats she has 1482 health 431 attack and 315 defense.

Max awakening base stats she has 2026 health 711 attack and 371 defense. Along with these stat boosts, she gets a unique skill, power attack. A passive 35% boost to attack that decreases her attack speed, and her class benefit for awakening is valkyries can be retreated for 100% of the cost of putting them down.

And so, the card lotto pool will be expanded ever further come tomorrow.

>>13229440

Archer/Healer - take your pick.

>>13229464

Another reason why I never use the term "4B" and instead call it 2S2M - nobody will confuse it. Incidentally, 'S' = straight, as taken from the Japanese wiki.

So I started aegis more or less right in the middle of the witch event and was only able to clear the first 3 or 4 missions before being shut down. Anyone know if were likely to see events return eventually?

>>13230771
Yes, there are "re-print" events regularly. Might need to wait awhile for them to start up though.

>>13231032
Yeah figures they would take a while but thats fine. Im just glad to know ill get another shot at it eventually. And next time with a squad that isnt brand new as I learned thats just BEGGING for pain.

>>13229853
..Except that 4B isn't 2S2M, it's 4S in the first nomenclature, while 4S from (2) is 2S2M from (1) and that's where the confusion comes from.

And the two systems assign that "straight" to a different thing.

>>13231381
well thats just silly.

>>13231381
I don't think so, unless there's actually a third nomenclature that is like (2), but switched 4S and 4B around. If you look at the english wiki, which used the 4S, 4B, 4M method, the S is the weak one, B the middle one, M the maxed.

It also makes more sense since it's based on the original japanese nomenclature where they use "suto" (short for straight) for the weakest, and then something that translates to "just before" for the middle one (which I always thought was where the B came from, to mean "before").

>>13231456
In the post I linked>>13229464
, S is the middle road while B is minimum, claiming it was translated from japwiki (google seems to fit, translating the "4直" (jika) as "direct" or "straight") but in the description in the post it's 2S2M. While the lowest level is suto (google got nothing beyond that transcription) and is named 4B (baseline)

However what you're saying make sense as a translation as well.

>>13231491
Hmm, you're right, my bad, that post really did it that way. Is that how they actually use the standard over at the ULMF community? Most of the places I see that use S B M, like the wiki, use it the other way round. That post was one of the earliest attempts, if not the earliest attempt, at defining an English terminology, so there was still controversy about that.

Also, I personally don't think that cutting one of the 2 letters from 直前 and just basing the translation on 直 (which loses, like, half its meaning) was a good approach by the author, especially because "straight" as a term makes no sense if it's supposed to mean that you max 2 of your valks.

Anyway, I'm glad here we just went for the 2S2M option instead. That one at least makes it clear that 2S2M is the combination between the two, any kind of order between B and S just seems so arbitrary in meaning that you might as well randomly call it x, π and Δ. It just doesn't seem intuitive.

>>13229464
This is the first I heard of this.

>reffering to 4スト as 4B
>not 4S because スト is short for ストレート (Straight)
>make 4S refer to 2S2M instead

This doesn't make any sense. What the hell does 'S' mean in this case?

>>13231538
Yeah, I agree.

I thought 'B' meant 'before' as well.

im level 75 and what the heck is a fire behemoth

>>13231949
No idea, I just got a Earth Behemoth

New Aigis JP event features the first black unit who's actually black. Also loli vampire.

Explore has been implemented now. Trying the 1 hour with my 6 R++. Surprisingly the limited quest is still there, maybe will last for 1 hour from now.

They updated the lottery miles, but with the previous 'new' valks. Well it's a good thing I guess.

>Highest PVP rank is now Rank 12
>I'm rank 10
>Can't pvp because there's not enough people

That rank 11 Heat Robe will soon be mine.

>>13231955
I just got one too. Killed it and got some SR card.

>I can pvp now
>Encounter a Bluts

How does one win against Bluts?

>>13232128

Explore button where? Do I have to level up to unlock it despite being way higher than 20?

>>13232272
Refresh your game

Just got Boreas Wind staff +10 from item lotto. Damn, the stats is really shitty, even my Fracture is better.

>>13232298
Good to know

I still don't see any explore option anywhere, even after refreshing. Is there a level requirement or something?

>>13232298
Damn forgot pic.

>>13232298
>Boreas Wind staff: 4600 base attack 75 wind
>Fracture: 5000 base attack

I dunno. Boreas sounds good to me. I guess you got your Fracture at +15?

>>13232324
Mine only appeared after I deleted cache.

>>13232335
Yeah, my Frac is +15. Maybe I was too hasty judging this item quality. 75wind elem sounds pretty good against NeoDreads.

so which one of the new valks is our new goddess?

>>13232014
that sounds cool

>>13232366
Angel of Sin, Kai
>http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c8%d1%c7%ba%bb%b0%c5%b7%bb%c8%a1%f9%a5%ab%a5%a4
>WATER, PHYSICAL, 18% Initiative, 18 Critical, 23 Balance, 130 MP Use
>4Straight: 9755 attack damage, 28248 skill damage
>2S2M: 13092 attack damage, 40904 skill damage
>4Max: 14410 attack damage, 46922 skill damage

Angel of Sin, Riku
>http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c8%d1%c7%ba%bb%b0%c5%b7%bb%c8%a1%f9%a5%ea%a5%af
>EARTH, PHYSICAL, 30% Initiative, 15 Critical, 8 Balance, 150 MP Use
>4Straight: 4595 attack damage, 8346 skill damage
>2S2M: 8152 attack damage, 13777 skill damage
>4Max: 12747 attack damage, 20245 skill damage

Angel of Sin, Coo
>http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c8%d1%c7%ba%bb%b0%c5%b7%bb%c8%a1%f9%a5%af%a5%a5
>WIND, MAGICAL, 42% Initiative, 11 Critical, 12 Balance, 80 MP Use
>4Straight: 4890 attack damage, 5142 skill damage
>2S2M: 6483 attack damage, 11616 skill damage
>4Max: 7542 attack damage, 25155 skill damage

Evil Spirit Hell-Loki
>http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%cb%e2%bf%c0%a5%d8%a5%eb%3d%a5%ed%a5%ad
>FIRE, MAGICAL, 18% Initiative, 16 Critical, 30 Balance, 100 MP Use
>4Straight: 8345 attack damage, 24229 skill damage
>2S2M: 12491 attack damage, 36459 skill damage
>4Max: 14720 attack damage, 43129 skill damage

>>13232366
Magic Gunner Carol
>http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%cb%e2%bd%c6%bb%c8%a4%a4%a5%ad%a5%e3%a5%ed%a5%eb
>WIND, MAGICAL, 36% Initiative, 15 Critical, 15 Balance, 600 MP Use
>4Straight: 4263 attack damage, 23820 skill damage
>2S2M: 5656 attack damage, 36807 skill damage
>4Max: 6179 attack damage, 44385 skill damage

Mountain Goddess Shizuka
>http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%bb%b3%c9%b1%c0%c5%bc%ee%b2%da
>EARTH, MAGICAL, 20% Initiative, 3 Critical, 5 Balance, 100 MP Use
>4Straight: 11577 attack damage, 12135 skill damage
>2S2M: 17041 attack damage, 17763 skill damage
>4Max: 19863 attack damage, 20623 skill damage

Bodyguard Captain Erma
>http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%bf%c6%b1%d2%c2%e2%c4%b9%a5%a4%a5%eb%a5%de
>WATER, PHYSICAL, 28% Initiative, 15 Critical, 20 Balance, 100 MP Use
>4Straight: 10924 attack damage, 14776 skill damage
>2S2M: 15640 attack damage, 20796 skill damage
>4Max: 17896 attack damage, 34374 skill damage

Carol, Loki and Kai are pretty good I guess.

Riku and Coo a shit, but they aren't from lottery though.

Got a Evil Spirit Hell-Loki but can't find the dungeon explorations still, tried refreshing no luck.

>>13232474
Clearing the cache fixed it for me

>>13232335
ah yes of course the cache

>>13232470
>Carol
>36% initiative
>44k skill damage
holy fucking shit

>>13232496
That 600MP use though.

>>13232498
that's about half of my MP, shouldn't be too much of a problem considering you get insane damage in return

holy shit mounting expeditions with strong valks is expensive

>>13232470
Magic Gunner Carol
>WIND...36% Initiative,...600 MP USE...44385 skill damage

Wow...thats nuts.

So she's the only one with crazy mp use? Little surprised loki doesn't as well

>>13232534
loki has low initiative to compensate

getting assists in behemoths will be a pain
i killed one myself in the first hit with my valks using skill once

How does this new Explore system work?

>>13232616
Use a lot of money to send girls to various areas for some hours, get cards, equip, and some exp when they get back

>>13232616
You make a team of 8 cards to send out on exploration. Cards put on exploration team will be removed from your card deck. (You can't use them for quests/mega-boss unless you remove them from your team.)

Success is determined by Total Combat Strength. Some valks have special effects for your team. Examples are the <element> [R]s from <element> dragons giving +30% <element> combat strength for your team.

All rewards from exploration will be sent to your gift box. Exploration also give very small experience points for your valks.

>>13232656
>+30% <element> combat strength
I meant UP TO +30% <element> combat strength.

It's +10%/+20%/+30% on [R]/[R+]/[R++]

>>13232656
So are the rewards any worth it? Besides getting the new necklaces and rings?

be warned about the 70/6 map in the new jp event

it's fucking insane.

Got her from the first Flame Behemoth.
Also what on earth do you do with a Cart? It dropped from exploration.

>>13232697
I think later maps give better stuff like higher level cards and better elemental accessories.

Everything in the first area is disgusting though. Cards are lv5 at best and equipments are shit. I think the best drop there is the Tourmaline Necklace (>>13232656) which gives +10 wind.

>>13232746
Carts give -20% cost on explorations.

After my first fire behemoth went down as fast as a schoolgirl, I immediately spawned a wind behemoth, maybe there's a pattern since they so weak.

Am I just unlucky or is it very common for Hard Crystal Keeper map to only drop 2-3 drops a lot of the time?

Been getting nothing but 2-3 (x3 for a total of 4-6) stones only for the past 10 or so runs, on both JP and EN Aigis.

Feel like punching the screen lol... drop rate feels so BS...

>>13233039
That's how it seems to be.

I got up to 6 before, had a 5, 5, then 6, then nothing but 3's after that.

it's pretty shitty yeah for how much it fucking costs to run it just once. There's this one platinum samurai I want in jp for 150 and I'm worried by the time I get there, she's going to be gone.

>>13232190
After reading the exploration page in the jp wiki, I realized that heat robe also drops from the second continent's 6-hour exploration.

I feel stupid going to Rank 11 now.

>>13233039
>>13233112
The suffering is real.

All this gold, how much should I spend on 2k?

>>13233213
I'd spend at least 800k if I had that much, lol. I've already spent ~1m and never got anything above silver (only 10-12 silvers too...), but as far as I know there's no reason to hoard money in Aigis so yeah why not.

>>13233304
Awakening costs 200k to 300k Gold per unit, in addition to the cost of bringing a unit 50CC60+ as well as CCed Fodders.

>>13231530 >>13231538
Oooh. I haven't actually read the stuff myself, just going by the newbie guide post.
With all yours information, I fully agree that that post has messed up.

Well, now we'll at least know where it comes from if the confusion springs up again.

>>13231664
>This doesn't make any sense. What the hell does 'S' mean in this case?
S still meant Straight from the half-word translation by Google. Due to half-wordness it's wrong.

And yeah. 2S2M is really much clearer.

>>13232563
Use some unlevelled cards? Trash commons? Although it'd probably only give assist to one guy due to oneshottery.

>>13233213
I think you can start dumping until your hand starts falling off from clicking.

>got Cyrus
>30 cost to deploy
Ouch. I would grind more of him, but I want to save for the Fairy Queen now

Gold cost for exploration seems to be based on card quality, so my weaker SRs cost a lot more to send on a mission than my 4M Sharo, even though Sharo has more combat strength. Does that mean 4M UCs could become a thing for exploration cost efficiency? I don't have a UC to try how UCs and Rs compare, but my Rs seem to be more efficient than my SRs.

Has anyone failed a mission yet? What happens? Just lose the money already spent on the mission? I fielded WAY too strong of a team for the first few dungeons....so damn expensive. Should have known the first few would be gimmes, just wasn't sure about penalties for losing.

>>13233414
You lose the money you spent and get some absolute garbage item. Anything other than a huge success gives pretty weak rewards.

>>13233416
Sounds about right...

I wish there was an a more obvious way to relate our team's combat strength with the dungeon Lv. Success % would be nice.

>>13233414
Difficulty seems to ramp up pretty steeply after the first few dungeons. Has anyone gotten to the second continent yet?

>>13233467
I only failed the level 3 dungeon, now I sent my SR and R units in there, hopefully they clear it.
It costs a whole lot, I guess investing in powerful UC cards is actually a necessity now

Is there a way to speed up the shrine summoning in Aigis?

>>13233467
Yes, I'm waiting for my 6hour exploration to come back so I can unlock the third continent. Second continent is still pretty easy. 50k strength for Bellerose to 100k for Yaisen's tomb is pretty easy to accomplish.

>>13232470
Oh Damn.... just noticed that the 3 angel of sin require more char. 50 for ++

>>13233525
Damn it. I knew I forgot something.

>>13232470
Angel of Sin, Kai
>Cost: 36/42/50
Angel of Sin, Riku
>Cost: 36/42/50
Angel of Sin, Coo
>Cost: 36/42/50
Evil Spirit Hell-Loki
>Cost: 40/48/58
Magic Gunner Carol
>Cost: 33/38/46
Mountain Goddess Shizuka
>Cost: 32/38/46
Bodyguard Captain Erma
>Cost: 32/38/46

Hell-Loki is expensive!

>>13233548
That can't be right for Loki, mine is 32 cost. Correct cost for Coo though.

Need 5+ strong&active comrades, feel free to send a request. IGN Haunter, lvl 93, european player, 10 4M cards and decent eqs so I hit hard enough.

>>13233600
I messed up. I looked at the wrong Loki.

>>13233548
Angel of Sin, Kai
>Cost: 36/42/50
Angel of Sin, Riku
>Cost: 36/42/50
Angel of Sin, Coo
>Cost: 36/42/50
Evil Spirit Hell-Loki
>Cost: 32/38/46
Magic Gunner Carol
>Cost: 33/38/46
Mountain Goddess Shizuka
>Cost: 32/38/46
Bodyguard Captain Erma
>Cost: 32/38/46

Contest up. Seems that it's for Lord of Valkyrie this time.

Can one of the JP players comment on how hard it will be to unlock the later continents? Can we expect some players to have ten entries by Monday?

>>13233835
Hmm, deadline by monday... I'd say most active players with a levelled up team will reach 4, 5 still seems quite achievable, but I doubt anyone will reach 6, since that would need someone to have enough levelled valks to make multiple teams that reach 200k.

>>13233889
damn this is gonna cost so much gold

>>13233900
I know, I really regret wasting good UCs like Delta, and plenty of rares that I could have levelled. Who would've thought they'd actually become relevant again?

>>13233620

Schverika has sent you a request.

>>13233918

I'm so glad I sat on 4 fresh Delta copies (after making a 4S one and eating it). Time to open comrade lists for lowbies so we can get more UCs? Or I guess that's what Normal Lotto is for.

>>13233363
35 when CCd. But I've been finding him quite useful. His skill when CCd doubles his aoe radius.

>>13233900
I've been a gillionaire for some time now, so I'm glad they finally gave me something to do with it.

>>13234042
Unfortunately, even adding newer players doesn't help. The weird thing about the UC boss drops is that they're actually not on the assist loot table, so only the host can get them. Everyone else just gets lvl 1 commons.

The only source I can think of for UCs are the 3 you can get from certain quests (Elle, Cecil and Lamia iirc).

I have just discovered Mea's purpose: 15% cost Explore reduction. She's basically Cart #2 given you're not allowed to bring duplicates on a given Exploration team.

>>13234098

Well, Glimmer assists drop UCs and weren't the rank 8 dragons also UC droppers? Though I just got a Miu from an expedition so we're not completely doomed.

Riza is amazing here in exploration.

>>13234098
>The only source I can think of for UCs are the 3 you can get from certain quests
And explorations.

Hue hue hue hue

>>13234105
Glimmers drop only Salas and Phil. Elemental Dragons don't drop UCs.

Soo, do the tasty loot events like the Fountain happen often?

>>13234105
Rank 8 dragons dropped Marin, Sofie, Naga and Athena, the UCs were from the rank 6 Eyes and the Rank 7 Wyverns.

You're right about the Glimmers, I forgot about them, they drop Salas and Phil. Then again, I'm not sure if I'd wanna use Phil, I mean, who was responsible for that artwork? So.... Salas it is. Or maybe I'll farm a Lamia from Quest 17-5.

Sending my Lv 2 Navi (UC) on an expedition~

Oh and JP wiki link for expeditions:

http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c4%b4%ba%ba%c0%ef%c3%c4

You can get UCs from World 1 dungeons (Great Success). No problem.

>>13234129
Hyoka and another world wisdom are great too,
also you can check the skills of any cards you've had but don't currently own in the log.
It appears to be 10% Skill boost for a R, 20% for a R+ and 30% for a R++

>>13234157
Yeah, Hyoka is -10% / -15% / -20% cost. So good.

HD7 is skill boost? I don't have her so I can't check but she has EXP UP 10% / 15% / 20% according to the JP wiki. I'm getting really crappy EXP so I don't think that would help much.

in lov how strong do my teams need to be to succeed in expeditions? Right now i'm wasting like 40k gila per trip because i don't want to undershoot, but the rewards are pretty shitty

>>13233203
hehe thanks for posting this, i was considering using a force gem to get me there, but I guess I'll hold off for a bit

So what's the max for today's normal drops?
i'm strugling to get more than 2 drops (*2 = 4)
And now i got 4 drops (*2 = 8)

>>13234295
Oh yeah, was hoping the exp would be decent now I'm done with the dead easy first continent, but its probably not any good till later on.

>>13234355
6 is the max for all 3 difficulties, the only change is the number of stones for each drop goes up one.

Welp, I can say I have one of every black unit again.

>>13234316
I'm only up to three continents so...

>Kodau Plain
Hantata Fountain - 5,000 strength
Gorusa Cave - 5,000 strength
Token Forest - 10,000 strength
Ruto Ruins - 12,000 strength
Godam Mountain - 30,000 strength

>Jiin Plateau
Bellerose Fortress - 50,000 strength
Rutsura Ruins - 70,000 strength
Nushaya Tower - 80,000 strength
Ramudan Village - 90,000 strength
Yaisen's Tomb - 100,000 strength

>Geunt Wilderness
Raguhishi Forest - 110,000 strength
Ruibere Water Source - 60,000 strength (no magic)
Grujin Village - 60,000 strength (no physical)
Dorango Castle - 115,000 strength
El Back Mountains - 120,000 strength

>>13234333
There's still not enough people in Rank 11 to allow me to pvp ;_;

>>13234425
those are some hugeass weapons

>>13234316
I'm only up to three continents so...

>Kodau Plain
Hantata Fountain - 5,000 strength
Gorusa Cave - 5,000 strength
Token Forest - 10,000 strength
Ruto Ruins - 12,000 strength
Godam Mountain - 30,000 strength

>Jiin Plateau
Bellerose Fortress - 50,000 strength
Rutsura Ruins - 70,000 strength
Nushaya Tower - 80,000 strength
Ramudan Village - 90,000 strength
Yaisen's Tomb - 100,000 strength

>Geunt Wilderness
Raguhishi Forest - 110,000 strength
Ruibere Water Source - 60,000 strength (no magic)
Grujin Village - 60,000 strength (no physical)
El Back Mountains - 115,000 strength
Dorango Castle - 120,000 strength

>>13234333
There's still not enough people in Rank 11 to allow me to pvp ;_;

>>13234042
Accepted.

Please stop sending requests for now, I'm not sure about the activity of a few guys so I'll have to monitor them for a couple of days.

>>13234400
ok tyvm

What units would one need for next week's Aigis event? US version

>>13234624

I was recommended to get my healers, mage, and heavy up for the event. I've been grinding like a mad man and grinded my Plat Witch (Belinda), Gold HA (Bernice), Silver Healer (Alissa), to 50 manually and CCed, now working on my Silver Mage (Valerie).

I've been semi inactive for too long, can't even get help on my behemoths after 15 mins even though i don't need the help.

>>13234468
Have you just been slowly going up in battle power?...kinda guestmating?

>new event day and spawn the first behemoth of the day and about to kill it
>internet guys decide to do maintenance and fuck up the internet for a day

why always me

>>13234772
Those values are from the jp wiki.

I followed most of the values listed and they seem correct.

I don't know how many continents we can unlock so I'm only listing stuff I unlocked.

>>13234772

He's straight quoting the JP wiki.

I ran some tests, seems like the gold cost for exploration is based on the cost of the unit squared times a multiplier from the explored area. This means, the basic multiplier for SR++ is 46²=2116, for R++ it's 23²=529, and for UC++ it's 12²=144.

This could also finally justify the existence of Miu, since her abnormally low 5 cost means she has a multiplier of only 25, making her literally almost 100 times cheaper than an SR++. So 4M Miu should give around 6k combat strength while being practically for free.

>>13234731
You can always swing by the chat and ask if anyone has some comrade slots free.

http://lordofvalkyrie.chatango.com/

>>13234847
You can't have more than 1 Miu per team anyway, so its not like she's super important
But I guess teams should be made of maxed UC++ units, even the Rares are expensive as fuck.

>>13233600
how did u get loki

>>13234624
>>13234663
You have to be able to beat that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcPvXDHXaeg
So yeah, a CC'd mage is a big plus. And a good defense too. (Magic or not, it's all up to Nutaku.)

>>13234861
Yep, I would probably get just one and then use her in whatever team needs 6k more free to reach the minimum requirements.

>>13234820

awesome....thats a big help. I got home late last night and couldn't help myself from starting...I rolled with pretty much baller teams on the first couple dungeons and wasted a shit ton of money.

>>13234140
Also Cecil on 10-5....although inferior to Lamia in multiple ways.

just for a heads up, I hit a Behemoth for just under 10k and didnt get the reward

Damn it, just hit a record 93k on a fucking behemoth of all things.

rank 11 is brutal even with asklepios
>>13235403
just use a single C card without any weapon on behemoth

There is supposed to be a possible UC reward from the first two dungeons right? Or am I looking at the japanese wiki wrong?

Does doing a CC on a unit using a copy of itself as ingredient apply the cost reduction and skill up bonuses?

>>13235540
No.

holy shit this girl

I didn't pay much attention to her when her event ended, but I just threw her in to see how she does and she's godly.

She has the magic attack of a mage while costing half, or less if you did more of the event, though she's single target her skill increases her range, attack, and gives her AOE.

She also gives you access to a 13 cost plant that acts as a healer and doesn't count towards your defeated units, so they can die and you can still get 3 star.

I think I just found the key to dealing with the triple lich.

>>13235575
Her attack/skill also does a very brief stun I think. Or at least it stops enemies from moving for like .5 seconds. DPS is pretty similar to a Necromancer I'd say.

>>13235534
I've gotten Pham of crimson flame from the first dungeon run I did.

>>13234468
Does the chance of great success increase if we go beyond those strength limits?

>>13235968
yes, if I'm understanding it correctly the great success chance is (your teams power/minimum requirement) x 20%

What the hell is with dungeon costs?

I was just messing around and saw that I can send one girl to the first dungeon for about 1200G, but another of the same rarity and level costs over 5000.

man clorisis first scene is great

what