/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>13142662
>Please ignore this thread until the previous thread is completely dead.
Fuck off
It's already dead though, but still fuck off.

Next time please be less shitty OP and don't forget to add /kcg/ to the subject field.

>tfw no mutsuki drops
Being a high lvl TTK is suffering.
I just want to finish their shitty quest.

This is outrageous.

One of the players on my pvp roster has my name in his comment box; my name is pretty unique, so I think he is calling me out, because his fleet is entirely SS and my main fleet is entirely ASW.

What a coincidence.

>>13142892
友軍艦隊 when?
They should fix that first instead of adding more useless kageros.

>>13142901
Kagerou

>>13142905
kageroo

>>13142910
Straya pls

I'm just going to keep the mochi since I won't be able to finish that damn quest

>>13142914
>you will never experience the joyous taste of roasted jumpmeat
you should feel bad

>>13142956
Is there a time limit?

>>13142964
I will take my deep fried butter over that any time, thank you.

which fluid druid is this?

>>13143097
ro-500

>>13143097
that's a semen tanker

when will they finally fight american ships instead of random alien ships that live deep in the ocean without any reason

Is katori's expedition actually worth burning a slot for 24 hours? how much exp does it give?

>>13143676
just do exp 22 and never look back

>March 13th Update
>Maya Kai Ni
>Maya of Takao-class Cruiser
>Not Takao

No, fuck this shit. They clearly have something against the best ship.

>>13143747
>Akatsuki
>Shiratsuyu
>Kuma
>Nagara
>Aoba
>Hiyou

Also Sendai was the last of her class to get Kai 2.

>>13143747
People have been speculating about Maya's AA remodel since 2013.

ㅣol?

>>13142892
Would be a lot more convincing if you put a screenshot.

Can this setting beat up 2-4?

>>13144177
:^)

>>13144177
> KanColleTool
Enjoy your ban.

>>13144177
Just try it out.

>>13144177
Christ that font length is hideous.

Are there diminishing returns on maps for mochi? Got 4 mochi at 3-3 in a single day, now can't get a single one for 3 days.

>>13144447
welcome to rng enjoy your stay :^)

For doing the 20 victories for 1 Akashi screw quest, what's a good PvP setup while having Katori as flag?

>>13144983
Katori and 5 BBs. Get the most EXP per resources for those fatties.

Just wondering but, what gear should I immediately attempt to upgrade with screws, like, which stuff gets the most immediate benefits?

>>13145150
tor pedos

>>13142892
And I met someone with the same username as me today. Mine is in capital letters though.

'Sup /kcg/. After only 3 days of casual mochi farming between LoL matches, I already have 10! This was way easier than any event.

We're all gonna make it, brahs.

>>13144447
Nah, that's a lie.

「艦これ」開発/運営 @KanColle_STAFF · 20m 20 minutes ago

次回「艦これ」全サーバ群共通メンテナンスは【3/13(金曜日)】に実施予定です。同メンテに伴うアップデートでは、防空巡に生まれ変わった重巡洋艦娘の改二改装実装を予定しています。また桜の季節には、ソロモンで圧倒的な活躍を魅せた姉妹艦も改二実装を準備しています。お楽しみに！

>>13145928
TLDR Choukai Kai Ni

>>13145928
Are we getting Maya and Choukai Kai ni as well as a new foreign ship?

Is shimakaze canonically a trap?
Gelbooru's results confuse me, she's the most advertised boatslut and she's always a trap, I don't want this bullshit that she's actually a gril.

I don't even play this game I'm just here to get my fap folder sorted out.

>>13146258

no, ZKMS is a gril, they are all grils, fags just love her

>>13146267
Definitely one of the most special fanbases I've seen..
At least it churns out good porn.

>>13144447
I think so. I did really well the first few days because of map variety introduced by weeklies, but then once I finished those (twice now) all I did was repeat 3-3, 4-3 and 1-5+1-4 on the side. For a while it was decent but now I can't remember how many days it's been since I last got mochi from 3-3 (I was running about 25 3-3 runs a day previously).

So, now I do 5-3 for transports, 1-3 for making my subs suffer, and Hoppo for throwing away resources. Now my drop rates have returned to being reasonable.

If you haven't had a similar experience, I currently have 28 mochi. It doesn't seem like it'll kick in too hard until you farm a single map to death hard. I'd be interested to hear from other people that have ground the same map(s) over and over into a fine powder to see if they have similar or differing experiences. (In the end it's all anecdotal bullshit anyways, though.)

pic related

>>13146565
I simply get an average of 1 mochi every 15ish runs of 3-3.

>>13142804
シズミナサイ！

>>13145928
> 桜の季節には
Choukai K2 is not until late March ~ early April. In case anyone thought both are getting K2 on the 13th.

Can you complete 4-3 with subs? I keep trying but I get redirected either over to the bauxite node or the southwest each time.

>>13146645
Yes. I've completed it about 9-10 times each week using six submarines for the weekly during this blasted event. (Other 2-3 clears were 4-4 after I ran out of patience).

>>13146258
There are no male ships. The only ship that was referenced to with a male pronoun was Bismarck, and well, I'm sure you can tell how well that translated into KanColle.

>>13146565
>28

Can I have just one anon?

Should I farm mochi with max ships?

>>13146721
No fuck you. Those are my blood, sweat, tears and buckets from the past 12 days.

>>13146723
No, you can use the level 1 CAs, CVs, CVLs and BBs for 1-4 and throw them out after. Plus wikiwiki says that doesn't affect the drop rate.

>>13146740
all of your lifes' luck used up on mochi

What equipment would you want the devs to add into the game?

inb4 Kaiten

I can't believe I got disconnected from vpn when the lottery is about to start, fml.

>>13147158
Named fighter squadrons from Akaga K2. Seriously, those are long overdue. 9 aa 3 acc 2 eva Zero 21 turning into 10 aa 3 acc 2 eva Zero 52
(or 11 aa Shiden / 12 aa Reppuu) with quest, where?

Fucking hoppu RNG bullshit, sparkles do nothing.

>>13147197
Quickly reconnect, you might still be able to make it.

>>13147158
Anti-ship sword.

>>13147209
Tenryuu pls

>>13147209

>>13147231
The way that sword is designed reminds me of the beam katana from No More Heroes.

>>13147203
been trying for an hour

>>13147258
Use another proxy?

Forever 4 mochi
I have done like 200 3-3 runs now and 4 mochii
only 30 buckets left and 4 mochi
no dignity and 4 mochi
no more tears left to cry with only 4 mochi
I even watched Tamako Market : Love Story in hope to find more mochi but
4 mochi

>>13147197
You don't even need a VPN.

>>13143776
People have been speculating about virtually everything since 2013.

>>13147231
That's a shitty sword no worthy of Tenryuu. Now, Zankantou on the other hand.

>>13147263
I do that every 15 tries.

>>13147279
SKW when?

>>13147268
Are you being serious? cause I can't even get kancolle to load cause region

>>13145646
Thanks bro, you give hope to all of us.

>>13147299
Read the connection tutorial. Take a look at the regional cookie section. It's a DMM-wide thing.

I think I made it!

>>13147312
Not yet you haven't.

Is Palau down? I keep getting errorcat everytime I start the game. Cleared cache, waited 9 hours still can't get in.

Er... What do I do with 2 Akitsumarus?

>>13147423
Level for asw gyro

>>13147377
Grab a new API.

>>13147423
Keep one, farm the other.

>>13147307
OH! SO THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT!

Thank you OP, finally a good thread.

>>13147435
I disagree.

>>13142875
You should have all ten Mutsukis doing expeditions, kuso.

>>13147435
It's okay.
> PSP Vita Game (2015 Spring): http://kancolle-vita.com/
> - Vita game to be released in May
Redundant information.
> - TYPE-MOON x KanColle Event(TBA)
Not even worth putting on the OP anymore.
> Dengeki Online article about the Kancolle Kai trailer: http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/964/964096/
There's not much useful info there.

>>13147312
I didn't make it.. Well, there's still monday.

Will the Vita game be the exact same? Can we play on our old KC account while on a non-jap Vita?

>>13147550
How the fuck should we know?

>>13147553
I don't know, haven't been in these threads since end of event, thought you might have some info.

Does the BB weapon overweight only affect 46 cms?

Recall someone talking about even 41 and 35.6 being affected and that any gun above the default for that ship is overweight.

>>13147569
No

>>13147569
No, you got it wrong. Historical guns give bonus to accuracy, it doesn't mean you get penalty for using 41cm.

Has there been a /jp/ sings wanker yet?

>>13147575
That sure explain why 38cmKai is considered best gun for BB.

>>13147575
There is a decrease in accuracy. Otherwise, equipping 46 on Kongou sisters wouldn't be less accurate than equipping 41.

http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%CE%FD%BD%AC%A5%DA%A1%BC%A5%B8%2F16

Holy shit where were you guys before? This has to be the smoothest run ever.

>>13147607
I will laugh at you if you get red T at the boss.

>>13147605
>Otherwise, equipping 46 on Kongou sisters wouldn't be less accurate than equipping 41.
Because? It's obvious 46cm and 41cm aren't the same so they shouldn't behave the same. 46cm gives penalty.

>>13147616
Close but no cigar. I would've flipped out if they saved their choking for the boss node.

>>13147619
There's a penalty on 41 as well, which you'd know if you bothered to look at the link. Have you been living under a rock for the last week?

>>13147628
No there isn't, moron.

>>13147628
I don't see anything about 41cm penalty there. Kongous have lower accuracy with 41cm because 35.6 are their historical guns and therefore receive a bonus. If I'm wrong, please tell we where exactly instead of linking some vague article.

Aren't you all pretty much saying the same thing?

If using a 41 is more accurate than a 46 you can either say the 41 has a bonus accuracy or that the 46 has a penalty. All depending on where you choose to put your baseline.

>>13147658
> △：過重砲・命中低下のデメリットがある

>>13147643
Go crawl back into the cesspit.

>>13147679
Baseline is no guns at all. Nothing else makes sense.

>>13147681
△？ or 〇？don't sound very convincing.

>>13147686
There are two charts there, and in fact, the confirmed chart is at the top. How did you miss that?

>>13147688
And where is the source for this confirmation?

>>13147694
2ch's testing threads, and other individual tests, I'm sure, just like all the other pages on wikiwiki.

>>13147699
It would be nice to have them because really, some funny symbols like triangles or circles don't really tell me anything, I want concrete data like 91% accuracy vs 93% accuracy etc.

>>13147679
/kcg/ likes arguing over semantics, what's new?

If someone values firepower/range more, they'll be more inclined to speak in favour of the 46cm, hence considering it the baseline equip for BBs (which isn't really false, at least outside of events) which will give the 41cms an "accuracy bonus".

If someone values accuracy more because combined fleet mechanics gave him PTSD, his baseline would be the top gun that comes with no penalties, thereby giving every gun with a larger caliber an "accuracy penalty".

Alternatively if you wish to employ scientific method then the default would be no guns for a control set, which is another different realm of autism on its own.

>>13147706
There is about 10% difference with every symbol.

>>13147706
You can have them if you just search the relevant 2ch threads.

Also, I think the symbol system is employed because accuracy has a variety of factors that are not 100% understood. One that we actually do know is the accuracy cap, which makes saying x has 4% less accuracy than y incorrect where it will be at the cap for either gun. Thus, it's more broadly applicable to just state the qualitative conclusions from the tests rather than have a bunch of data.

>>13147681
You don't have a data sheet to back you up, retard.

>>13147734
>Testing near the accuracy cap

>>13147734
You're insufferable. A single screenshot of unknown testing methods, unknown origin and unknown date. You sure are credible. Just kill your self and do the world a favour.

>>13147734
I never understand why people do tests with 4xw/e gun. Why the hell would you ever mount 4 guns?

>>13147755
This. 3 guns make sense on Prinz or flag Myoukou but that's it.

>>13147742
Why don't you try it by yourself then if you wouldn't believe those testers, faggot.

Some tests can be found here:
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Shelling_Accuracy_Test_Results_(Source_to_be_cited)

The chart I gave was posted here:
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/KanColle/M.1409559451.A.AE1.html

If you still have problems with them, kindly kill yourself instead.

>>13147759
>retard
>moron
>faggot
Why are you so upset? Not that other anon.
Also,
>chink source

>>13147755
>>13147758
They just want information for the heck of it. And it's not like it won't ever come in handy. For spring E4 last year I stuffed 4 guns on the lone BB.

>>13147770
>Why are you so upset?
Is there a rule on the internet where you have to behave like a good boy or something?
>chink source
There's a jp blog there too.

>>13147759
>Test map is believed to be 1-1-1
>Map 1-1-1
Seriously?

>>13147784
It's a fair test and because morale is perpetually at 0, the accuracy goes nowhere near the cap.

>>13147759
>>13147738

>>13147789
It's useless test because opponent has shit evasion.

>>13147799
And what about shit evasion? If you have shit accuracy why would shit evasion matter so much?

>>13147799
You're still able to get differences in accuracy out of it, which is worth quite a lot.

Honestly there aren't actually great places to test this shit. On things you actually care about (like gold Ta) you'd have to break out the buckets if you wanted enough results to be statistically significant.

>>13147807
>shit accuracy
What? Only combined fleet has shit accuracy. Bongou with 46cm guns on 1-1 has much better accurasy than with 35.6 dazzle/proto in combined fleet.

>>13147789
>48.3% ▲▲▲▲ Kongou K2 / ? 35.6cm x 4 424
>56.6% ▲▲▲▲ Kongou K2 / 99 Proto 35.6cm x 4 502
>33.5% X X X X Kongou K2 / ~95 41cm x 4 936
>24.4% X.X.X.X. Kongou K2 / ~95 46cm x 4 447
You mean this? Which show that anon was right all along and there is difference in accuracy.

>>13147807
Nobody knows the enemy ships morale, tests are invalid

>>13147797
>Why don't you try it by yourself then if you wouldn't believe those testers

>>13147799
>herp derp I'm making a bunch of assumptions about how accuracy and evasion work therefore the results are invalid
Some testing on 2ch and some blogs already showed that accuracy and evasion are calculated independently, and then the two are combined linearly to give the actual hit chance (given it doesn't exceed the cap). So it doesn't matter what the fuck the target evasion is as long as accuracy isn't so stupidly high to prevent meaningful testing.

But if you really want to work on targets with real evasion have fun computing each and every different class and formation in 3-2 separately.

>>13147820
>as long as accuracy isn't so stupidly high to prevent meaningful testing
The accuracy is very high outside of combined fleet you greentexting cretin.

So, there is a point in leveling all the girls or I should stick with ones I got/like more?

Also, what's the best way to get Jintsuu, spamming crafting or 1-x maps?

Please respond.

>>13147814
>>13147824
Try bringing a BB with 0 morale to 1-1 with any 2 guns and see whether her accuracy reaches anywhere near 97%.

>>13147816
>you in charge of reading comprehension
YOUR ship's morale. YOUR ship's accuracy. Not the enemy's.

>>13147818
I do believe this test.
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Shelling_Accuracy_Test_Results_(Source_to_be_cited)#IV_-_Overweight_.2F_.22Fit_Gun.22_Mechanics_on_BB_.28Red_Morale_Test.29

>>13147824
Maybe for your waifu, but what about a level 25 Kongou? Wait, don't tell me you didn't even know levels impact accuracy greatly.

>>13147827
Do daily 30/30/30/30.
Progress with the game.
You'll get her eventually.

>>13147828
>0 morale
How about you take a look at the test you're supposedly talking about?

>>13147829
Just kill yourself if you can't hold proper conversation.

>>13147824
hence the 0 morale tests

Or are you implying that accuracy is so high the results don't matter? If so, what >>13147829 said.

It feels more realistic to not know the exact accuracy of x guns on x ship. A fair assumption is good enough for me.

>>13147834
>Test map 1-1, and ships were mostly Lv 90+. In order to avoid the accuracy cap (around 97%), test ships were kept in red morale (severly fatigued).
While it won't be 0 morale all the time, it will be 0 morale half the time if you keep on sortieing the same girl. You can easily do one 1-1-A run in a minute, and morale only regenerates every 3 minutes.

>>13147833
>You'll get her eventually.
Well, I know that, but I really need a 3rd fleet to farm fuel.

>>13147815
Missed this post but yes, this one.

>>13145928
>>13145936
>>13146086
>>13146614
Haha, I was just about to ask about the chances of getting secret Choukai K2 like we did with Yamashiro.

>>13147841
I looked at the test which was quoted here - it had morale at 47-49 or ~85.
Okay, it makes sense then.

>>13147854
Not sure how you missed this part out.
>Red_Morale_Test

>>13142875
She is easy to get, I used to have 10x of her.

I really love this window

>>13147870
Now that I look at it, the Kongou tests are worthless because they use four guns. Even at high morale they were missing with 3-4 46cm guns.

>>13147885
Me too.

>>13147885
>>13147918
Me three.

Holy fuck.
I used Echelon for shit and giggles in 5-3 yasen node and all six subs made a cut-in. I'll use it for next few tries and see if I just got lucky.

>>13147950
Echelon isn't known as the miracle night battle formation without a reason.

>>13147755
What's worse is that they don't even bother including the highly relevant 41cmx2 setup or any of the other prototype gunsx2 setups. Who the fuck cares about how much accuracy you have with 46cmx4?

Tell me /jp/ what should I do with my 10 mochi,
ahould I keep it or exchange it for screw?

>>13147950
>>13147957
Placebo.

>>13147990
Echelon is normally more costly than other formations. Expensive placebos work better than cheap placebos. Q.E.D.

>>13147959
They were testing if negative effect from 46cm does stack or not.
If you really want read how these test is going go check kancolle bbs on shitaraba.
Those "フィット" testing has started on the previous test/analyze thread of that forum.

>>13148008
Believe me, if I knew how to read any of this I would have already.

>>13147885
I like this one

>>13148018
That's great as well but it's not hanami-time yet. Unless you're in Okinawa.

>>13148018
I want that one, looks really good with the trees outside.

>>13148020
I'm in the other hemisphere

I'm free of LSC hell!

Finally I can start crafting equipment again. haven't crafted equipment since it was added. (Because i had enough Reppuu)

It was a good idea to follow the max chance stats of that chinese site.
http://unlockacgweb.galstars.net/Kancollewiki/viewCreateShipLog?sid=143

>>13148079
You're free - for now.
I can see the next LSC only ship added soon

>>13148082
Tirpitz. You know it.

>>13148087
Yes. Or Shinano

>>13148079
THANK YOU TIME BASED RNG

I'M DONE TOO

I LOVE YOU ANON

>>13148106
Not surprising since now is the best time to craft those big LSC ships.

>>13148079
>>13148106
Stop it. You just want me to waste resources, don't you

>>13148079
>>13148106
Too bad I only got Hyuuga ;_;

>>13148123
4/7/7/2 recipe?

>>13148159
biikame
13 BB LSC so far, the best ships I got were two Mutsu.

Level 84 here. How would you rank the EO maps in terms of difficulty?

>>13148182
1-5 is piss easy. 2-5 can be RNG fest, just like 3-5.
5-5 is retarded.

>>13148182
5-5 is hard the rest are chump easy. 3-5 has some RNG silliness on either route.

>>13148182
If you have ships for north route, 2-5 isn't much harder than 1-5.

Why do some girls require blueprints to remodel? What's the philosophy behind it?

>>13148182
1-5: very easy, 4 sorties = 1 medal.
2-5: both routes are easy, but I prefer the nothern one. Usually 4 sorties are enough, but sometimes you'll be forced to retreat.
3-5: RNG-heavy, medium difficulty. Both routes tend to troll the player, the choice is up to you.
5-5: Hard. Usually not worth completing unless you're aiming for the rank.

>>13148234
A large overhaul of the ship's design? Are you upset there's something you don't have and are looking for answers?

>>13148234
Reason for finished EO maps monthly

For the last 10 runs, Hoppo taiha'd 1 ship sharp. No more no less. Fucking hell.

>>13148088
I sure hope she'll be an event clear reward just like her sisters. Having to go back to LSC is going to be the end of me.

>>13148292
If they still keep that planned branching remodel for her, you will have to go back to LSC nevertheless.

>>13148234
Usually these blueprints are needed when the remodel was fictional or discontinued.

>>13148327
I wonder if we get to pick between BB and CVB, can we have both in the fleet or will it be like chitochiyo.

>>13148234
Reminds me, will Maya need a blueprint?
I just used mine on Chikuma and won't be in a hurry to level Maya if that's the case.

>>13148368
We haven't had a blueprint girl in a while, and she's specializing into an aa cruiser so I think it's likely.

>>13148368
How are we supposed to know?

>>13148372
Amagi?

>>13148378
Who?
(my bad)

Will there be a chance of any blueprint equipment?

>>13148383
Winter E-5 reward.

>>13148398
I was just making a bad joke because I had indeed forgotten about her using a blueprint.

>>13148388
Every blueprint remodel comes with some hard to get equipment. Hopefully it's something new though this time.

>>13148368
Her becoming AA cruiser is historical, so I don't think it will.
If dev will add some kind of super sub HA gun, she may ask you a blueprint.

Either way, I think she will get Akiduki-like internal AAFD.

>>13148411
I mean upgrading equipment with blueprints.

>>13148412
You know what I'm hoping for? A dual purpose AA gun that also acts as a main gun like the DD guns, so my CA can finally day double with AA cut in.

Will luck on carriers ever be useful?

So, Maya Kai Ni possibilities:
1) Built-in Anti Air Fire Director
2) New actually good high angle gun for cruisers
3) Gun above with built-in AAFD
4) Gun above but also acting as dual purpose
5) Type 22 Radar Kai 4
Am I forgetting anything?
To be honest, I think she'll get some of those and require blueprint at lv 70-80.

>>13148439
It already affects critical evasion chance. High luck ships are more likely to evade hits that would crit them to red.

>>13148451
>High luck ships are more likely to evade hits that would crit them to red.
www

>>13148451
Source?

>>13148451
Zuihou.

>>13148445
Higher AA stat than Akizuki?

Also I think they'll give another option in Akashi's. I'll need more screws for that.

>>13148455
Luck affects every action of a ship to some degree. It's part of the RNG calculation equation.

>>13148456
Insider tip which was thorougly tested. :^)

>>13148445
Depth charges.

>>13148467
>Luck affects every action of a ship
I'm dying here

Crafting failed me so hard. How do i get Kaga

>>13148493
Crafting more, of course.

>>13148493
Hold out Akagi facing downwind and hope she picks up the sent.

>>13148493
Lift weights.

>>13148493
Masturbate to her doujins.

>>13148493
I've gotten 5 kagas this week off of 3-3

So much for TYPE-MOON x KanColle collab.

>>13148537
Should have figured Type Moon would disappoint.

Irako or screws for mochi?
Leaning more towards screws.

Also is this new or do I just not post much?

What expedition is the best for routine Hotels/Bisko LSC?
21,37,38?

>>13148611
>Irako or screws for mochi?
Mochi. Use your money to buy Irako/screws.

>>13148616
2,6,38.

So what's my best bet at getting Hachi? Just missing her and Shioi to complete my SS collection and I may as well focus on the easy one first.

>>13148611
I'd take the Irako, for most of them anyway. Screws are farmable.

>>13148631
>Screws are farmable
No they're not.

>>13148611
Depends on your personality. Are you a typical potion hoarder? If yes - screws. Otherwise Irako.

>>13148631
Rare destroyer recipe.

>Screws are farmable.
Top kek.

So is improvement just a cash shop ploy? All the good stuff needs more than one screw, and the quest will only give one a day. Given the limited quests to receive additional screws, upgrade progression is very limited unless you open that wallet.

>>13148635
I've gotten a few just doing my weeklies so far.

>>13148643
This game exists solely to make Kadokawa money, so yes.

Do you people really use Irako alone? I'm just 4 months old TTK so I only used two sets of Mamiya+Irako during E4 farm in Winter but with my nature of potion hoarder I doubt I will ever make use of them. When I tried using Irako alone, it only sparkled 3DDs and didn't affect Yukikaze which was biggest crit magnet so I was disappointed with it.

>>13148631
If screws are farmable, then Irako also is.

>>13148649
I use her to sparkle expeditions the moment I get one. Used mamiyas to remove fatigue when 3-2-A grinding too or some similar shit.

>>13148114
>>13148106
>time based RNG

Please enlighten me, I'm new.

>>13148664
>time-based RNG
>get CVL instead of Taihou

suffering

>sparkling ships
>scratch damage you need to bucket

Why is life so hard?

Which destroyer should I train for AA? Bucky or Hatsushimo?

>>13148690
You should get both for Pokédex

>>13148690
Fubuki. Superior equipment and superior stats.

>>13148690
Akiduki

>>13148708
Yeah, I wish

>>13148676
>Bucketing anything lower than minor damage
Never bucket anything still in green, you'll save buckets that way.

>>13148690
Both.

>>13148717
Getting one to 70 sounds painful enough. Why would you need two of them though?

>>13147377
I got new API link and everything was working fine, but the problem occured again right now. Anyone else have the same thing happening? Getting new API every 12hours is kinda silly.

>hoppou not droping ANYTHING now
No ships, no mochi, jack shit.

What the fuck?

I just want this bullshit to be over, do the devs do these mini events often or will I finally have time to grind my girls to kai ni if I manage to finish this.

>>13148749
Prepare for sakura petals hunt.

>>13148720
you need both to ~~beat the game~~

Why does my night plane have such a low activation chance? It almost never happens.

>>13148816
Put it on slot with 23 planes.

Can DMM ban if they suspect credit card fraud?
Long story short, I finally shekel'd out for more ship space using my credit card, but when a charge came through, my card company was concerned as it was listed as from Great Britain as only $0.08. I thought my card might've been compromised, so I had it cancelled. Another charge came in for about the exact amount I had bought from DMM, so I realized for foreign cards they must go GB or something, but by then my cards were voided. I had already spent the points and bought the ship space in game some hours before my credit card company contacted me. Now I'm concerned DMM'll think I was using a stolen card since the charge from that card won't go through. I put in a new card's info in case they try to re-charge me. Also, all the cards were in the same, my, name so they should think it's legit and just a mix-up on my end, right? R-Right?

If this pans out bad, I think the wiki should mention this could happen.

>>13148825
Pray tell what non carrier has such a hugeass plane slot?

>>13148816
Are you getting AS? Supposedly it helps to the proc rate.

Is Akitsumaru worth leveling much after getting her to k2?
Expedition slaving seems more beneficial.

>>13148837
There are two of them.

>>13148837
Try to keep up with the times

>>13148834
If you get an email from DMM, then you can start worrying. Otherwise, you're probably fine. You might see a new charge pop up, but that kind of shit happens all the time with businesses and credit cards.

>>13148825
>>13148858
I remembered doing that for E4 hard. Worked like a charm.

>>13148858
Welp I gotta admit I never knew that. Yamashiro and Fusou aren't even on my "to upgrade" list. I was prioritizing the Tone sisters.

>>13148849
It helps to have a higher level Akitsumaru for easier event routing, but she'll level up pretty fast if you use her during expeditions all the time anyway.

So any speculation on Maya's k2 remodel level?
Mine's still at her kai level.

>>13148901
I'm getting her to lvl 70, can't bothered to go any higher as I need to level Choukai too.

>>13148901
70-80 with possible blueprint requirement.

Preview of Maya kai ni when?

>>13148933
Night of March 12th/13th.

>>13148933
During maintenance.

>>13148933
Lurk more

>6 more hoppou runs
>1 cat before node
>0 mochi

Again, I should level all the girls or stick first with the ones I like or the meta ones?

>>13149118
Love triumphs over all.

>>13149118
>stick first with the ones I like
This.

>>13149118
At least kai everyone, just in case they add a new kai sprite down the line.

>>13149118
Level up the ones you're going to keep.

>>13149123
>>13149148
>>13149177
おｋ～

>>13149200
b-But I want to collect all the 艦隊!

Also, I've read that leveling some duplicates like Chitose or Isuzu is good to get good equipment, I should do that since the start or wait a bit?

>>13149118
Meta ones first if you're new. You won't understand why but just do it. I've played for 4 months and I speak from (relatively fresh) experience. Prime example would be that I had Kitakami since forever and didn't level her because I didn't like Shibafu art, now she's my highest level ship for reasons other TTKs can give you a page of.

You will understand the importance of meta ships when an event rolls around. Its debatable whether gear or base stats is more important but since the best gear often comes on the best ships this isn't really a big concern. There are outliers (20cm type 3s on Mikuma and Kinugasa) but strong kai/kai2s take precedence, especially those with decent combat stats and rare equips (Sendai comes to mind for her night recon plane).

When push comes to shove, these girls that you may not have liked will be the ones that create invaluable experiences with you by pulling through for you when you're in dire straits. They will save your ass while your resources are drained, morale gutted and sleep deprived at 3am in the morning with 1 day till the event ends. And you will, in time, come to love them.

>>13149206
>b-But I want to collect all the 艦隊!

Better ready １０万円 then.

>>13149118
>>13149123
>>13149211
It also helps to just love meta ships from the beginning.

>>13149206
Don't bother at the start. However, unless Chitose/Chiyoda are your favorite CVL, it might be a good idea to keep them as AV until you unlock expedition Tokyo Express.

>>13149211
Good to know, guess now I need to learn who are the meta ships, aside of the CLTs.

>>13149221
I just want 1 of each, not marry them. As a Christian user of a Christian board, I'm against polygamy.

>>13149225
>it might be a good idea to keep them as AV until you unlock expedition Tokyo Express
Aye.

There is more newbie traps? FAQ in the wiki gives few advice about "dos and don'ts" for new players.

>>13149118
Meta ones first.

>>13149211
Your picture isn't related with things you said though

>>13149211
> I've played for 4 months
This explains your belletristik. Once you've played some more you'll understand that given the way RNG works stuff you use doesn't matter as much as your ability to stay frosty and keep going. Meta ships give some edge, but there's not a whole lot of difference between 50/50 and 40/60 odds.

>>13149267
My bad, I probably should've named the picture "YUKIKAZE FUCKS LOCAL ABYSSAL UP".

>>13149247
>meta ships
If I'm not wrong (someone correct me if I am):
Shigure, Yukikaze, Yuudachi, Ayanami, Ooyodo (failing that, Yuubari or Jintsuu), Tone, Chikuma, fast BBs (especially Kirishima and Bismarck), Kaga, Taihou. You'll probably have your fair share of CAs to choose from.

>>13149247
There are more ships than ship slots, unless you expand with money.

>opec approved
>10 EI on map

Currently upgrading 38cmKai with akashi

Anyone else, or 3bear cannons as usual?

>>13149294
Shigure isn't that good.

>>13149247
You will want to marry both of your Hotels and KTKM-sama, not counting waifu/daughteru.

>>13149247
Marrying aside, you'll have to buy ship slots if you want to collect all kanmusu because there are only 100 slots available for free.

>>13149310
Until you start luck boosting Yuudachi, Shigure is arguably better. Though with Skilled Lookouts that might not be required anymore.

>>13149310
She's right behind Yukikaze in stats but looks and sounds good.

>>13149294
I'll start with these and keep lurking then.

>>13149296
>>13149312
Well, fug. Guess I'll use the most boring ones to modernize then.

>>13149311
There is something wrong about marrying a DD?

>>13149247
>As a Christian user of a Christian board, I'm against polygamy.
I thought you guys also practised polygamy in the past.

>>13149321
Of course there is, you pedophile.

>>13149294
Shigure is old and busted. Either Fubuki or Ayanami is better depending on the situation.

Jintsu and Ooyodo are both equally important for different reasons. Yuubari is worse-than-DD-tier stats.

I'd add on:
Hiryuu, Junyou, Nagato, Fusou/Yamashiro, Ooi, Kitakami, Shimakaze, Myoukou

>>13149321
>There is something wrong about marrying a DD?
Quite the contrary. Forgive me if I worded that poorly.

>>13149331
>Shigure is old and busted. Either Fubuki or Ayanami is better depending on the situation.
I was about to say put Ayanami in the support fleet and Shigure in the sortieing fleet, but I figured you could do both if you have dupes. Ayanami it is then.

>Jintsu and Ooyodo are both equally important for different reasons. Yuubari is worse-than-DD-tier stats.
Jintsuu. I'll agree with dropping Yuubari though.

>Ooi, Kitakami
Other than CLTs he said, these 2 are obvious.

Rest seem legit except for Nagato.

>>13149331
Nagato is useless.

tools

>>13149348
Also just realised I forgot Akizuki.

>>13149331
Shimakaze is pointless nowaday, especially if you are already using Ayanami.

>>13149368
muh potential Kai 2
muh night battle stats

Other than that, well, yeah, pointless.

>>13149368
Well, if you max her luck, she's only second to Yuudachi.

>>13149386
Which is only 1 FP higher than Ayanami kai 2 in night battle.
Which makes her pretty pointless if you already have Ayanami.

>>13149348
Nagato is now the best option for triple gun cut-in setups since Haruna's accuracy was nerfed to shit by 46cms. This was a relevant setup in Midway E-6. Also her stats are pretty good.

>>13149368
Shimakaze is still relevant due light fleet maps where armor, hp and evasion are all things you should care about (on top of attack), and she still has the second highest night battle power. She is pretty annoying though so mine is still only level 87.

>>13149368
>>13149371

Durable DDs with higher armor and health are the best candidates for DD-restriction maps

Bep and amatsukaze are very useful especially for 3-5 south

Of course, sometimes you just want to use cute DDs

>>13149395
>using triple gun cut-in setups ever
You don't use Bismarck I see.

Also pretty sure Nagato's accuracy was also nerfed to shit by 46cms.

Somebody pls make a new thread for us.

Blasting out Amagi in PVP is always so entertaining.

>>13149412
Bismarck can only fill one slot. Also, her torpedo cut-in setup precludes artillery spotting while three-gun setups still allow day double attacks. Nagato does get some penalty from 46cms but it's only about half of what Haruna or Bismarck would get.

>>13149417
She looks like a corpse, it's the opposite of entertainment.

>>13149431
>Also, her torpedo cut-in setup precludes artillery spotting while three-gun setups still allow day double attacks.
I see you haven't used Bismarck or Prinz.

>>13149412
>nerfed to shit
I love how a tiny difference is now considered "nerfed to shit," even in Kongou's case.

>>13149294
Shigure and Yukikaze will form the backbone of your DD cut in team for awhile.

It will be a long time before you have the spare resources to devote yourself to luck modernization. Please don't listen to the TTKs who ask you to ignore Shigure, you'll need her for the next event.

>>13149404
>high durability DDs to reduce BGK taiha chance
>offensive stats don't matter since as long as your DA triggers in night battle you can rape shit even with mutsuki tier firepower

I never really thought of it that way. At least I get a free conscience pass on using Amatsukaze now.

>>13149440
I see you're a kuso that uses mixed cutins, because it's either double torpedo double guns or GTFO on either of those.

>>13149451
For 3 46cms which gives almost guaranteed daytime cap and artillery spotting potential and max night attack, Kongou will take a ~-12% hit while Nagato will only suffer around -6%. In nightmare mode event maps every miss at the boss can be pretty catastrophic.

>>13149481
>using best setup
>kuso
You're just a retarded scrub who's unable to think for himself. There are cases where mixed cut-in is the way to go.

>>13149481
>-12%
Whoops, meant -18%.

>>13149463
>luck modernization
Just wondering, is there any way to achieve that other than Maruyu? And which ships should get priority?

>>13149463
>>It will be a long time before you have the spare resources to devote yourself to luck modernization
Not that anon, but this just means farming Maruyus doesn't it?

>>13149487
A cutin attack which will do ~15% more damage while failing to proc 40% of the time, or a double attack which activates 99% of the time, hmm hard decision.

>>13149431
Artillery spotting is worth sacrificing for an even stronger attack at night, especially if we're talking about surface combined fleet where daytime accuracy is shit.

>>13149495

>>13149500
Yeah, you're a moron.
Mixed cut-in allows both double attack during day AND cut-in in night battle.

>>13149495
>And which ships should get priority?

Your shipfu.

>>13149500
>this blatant moving of goalposts

>>13149503
Well if we're comparing Bismarck and Nagato cutins then we're already restricting it to non-combined fleet maps (such as Midway E-6) because Nagato is slow speed. I agree it's less of an issue in combined fleet. But in normal fleet challenge maps you need the artillery spotting to get your fleet delivered to the boss safely.

>>13149495
>is there any way to achieve that other than Maruyu?
Marriage adds 3-6 points. Otherwise, no.

>And which ships should get priority?
https://archive.moe/a/thread/121780046/#121786253
I made that post before I knew of the luck cap, though, so keep the luck cap in mind.

>>13149481
>using 3 46cms in the first place

>>13149523
Nope, even for normal fleet I'll still go with 2 gun 2 torp, especially if the enemy boss is extremely tanky like BB hime. 3 gun cut-in would do half the damage that torp cut-in would be able to do because of the damage cap. I'd say it's a very good trade-off. Not to mention luck cap for gun cut-ins is lower than that for cut-ins involving torps, so the former will be less likely to proc.

There's literally no reason to use gun cut-in over torp cut-in.

>>13149496
Yep, via LSC min recipe.

You'll get some from Yamato/Musashi/etc. attempts and event drops but if you want a steady stream of luck fodder you'll have to wander with Maruyu in mind into the hell that is LSC.

As a benchmark, Yuudachi k2 has 20 luck.
In order to get her to Shigure levels of luck (50) you'll need 30/1.6 = 18.75 = 19 Maruyus.

>>13149511
If you want artillery spotting so badly then why even bother with night cut-in? The damage on mixed is pretty shit.

>>13149540
Just wait until we get double senkan suiki next event.

>>13149545
Consider a 200 armor target and the fact that your battleship is fairly likely to be in chuuha against such boss fleets. The single 200% modifier isn't actually too bad.
Also no artillery spotting will decrease the chances of sinking the cannon fodder distraction targets during day.

>>13149553
Well fuck, I'm currently levelling Yuudachi to get k2 but I guess I'll have to switch over once I get that.

I still need to do LSC for everything except Taihou so hopefully I'll get some Maruyu from that.

>>13149555
Damage on mixed is clearly higher than damage from double attack (130% x2 vs 120% x2, plus with torpedo you have at least 12 more yasen fp than with DA set up) and cut-ins have better accuracy. Flag Prinz cut-ins reliably. If you gave her only torps, she would be deadweight during day. Stronger torpedo to finish off small fry before yasen doesn't hurt either. You could say none of those thins are huge - but they add up.

I just started the game, already up to Level 5 but I can't clear 1-3. I keep getting sent South instead of North, what should I do? I'm also burning through ammo at a crazy rate.

Pic Related, my fleet for sorties. My other fleet I keep for expeditions (currently on 1-5)

>>13149577
Read the wiki. Pray to RNGesus.

>>13149562
Doesn't really matter. Level everything, use whatever girl you like

Game isn't as hard and punishing as you'd expect

>>13149582

Hime can shoot torpedoes towards your shipgirls? That's mighty dangerous.

On the time-based RNG logs, should I use the recipes on the top table or the bottom table?

>>13149577
Took me 20 sorties on 1-3 before it sent me to the boss node. Sometimes the RNG just hates you.

>>13149545
>3 gun cut-in would do half the damage that torp cut-in would be able to do because of the damage cap.
Tenryuu with 3 gun cut-in does 300~400 damage on average against flag Ru. Don't underestimate gun cut-in.

>>13149573
Prinz with her eq:
2x SKC, FuMO - 182 yasen fp
2x 218 dmg

Prinz with mixed cut-in:
2x SKC, Quint with 3 stars or 53 cm - 194 fp
2x 252 dmg

>>13149606
Wtf don't give the devs ideas.

>>13149606
Yes. I'm pretty sure it's coming.

Sextuple torps. Maybe Duodecuple for the combined fleet, it'll look like a macross scene

Next event, mark my words

>>13149630
DD princess on first node, CL demon on the second node, third node is either CV princess of BB princess. Tsu class everywhere. Inflated LOS requirements for hard difficulty.

Please, devs, make it happen.

>>13149642
We need CA Hime.

>>13149582
>"use whatever you like"
>hotels, highest fp bongou class, nagato
>chitochiyo
>ktkm, ooi, yuudachi
>highest luck sub for route security

you're not sounding very convincing there

>>13149668
i know right, god forbid someone likes Yamato, Musashi, Nagato, Kirishima, etc

>>13149668
You didn't mention lucky beaver and eq mule Ooyodo.
Actually, that image could be sarcastic because every single ship there was focused purely on highest performance.

>>13149668
Would this be more convincing?

>>13149668
>>13149680
Bismarck, Snail, RJ, Hyahah, Shigure, Ayanami, 401, Jintsuu etc. are very competitive alternatives

What, you want to see maruyu and akitsumaru or something?

>>13149717
Enjoy that chuuni with the little time you'll have.

>>13149702
You could literally use anyone last event, with E-5 having a soft requirement for Kitakami.

Fuck 3-5. I sparkle my girls and this shit still happens 2/3 tries.

>>13149730
Standard.

>>13149730
Why you dodgin Hoppou bro?

>>13149712
Any of them would be fine. What was in that image was purely top-performers, meaning your words attached to the image sounded worthless.

>>13149730
You need more love. And levels, you need levels to go south.

>>13149730
Go aboob, bring akiduki for AA cut-in

Ignore pic related

>>13149680
pretty much, i was halfway done with typing and realized this was either a really badly constructed point or a lazy troll

>>13149712
sure, why not use them instead of the clearly uber tier shit you have there

oh wait you won't

>>13149702
>implying that's you

>>13149712
yeah you gotta clear with all lvl 1 mutsukis for your opinion to be valid xDD

>>13149730
You need to believe in the kirakira.

>>13149741
I'll toss in trophies and UMI NO SNIPA, just for you, next event

>>13149756
Okay. I'll be clearing next event with Akatsuki and Kiso.

>>13149730

>>13147607

>>13149730
Your Poi has been ravaged by a big black abyssal torpedo. How does it makes you feel?

>>13149728
>with the little time you'll have
What is that supposed to mean?

>>13149743

Don't ignore Saberkaze, she needs love.

>>13147842
For me she finally dropped on 2-4A while I was powerleveling my CVs and Kongous.

Now she drops like candy.

That fucking god.

How do the jap bastards stand this sort of rng. I switched back to 3-3 after 15 fucking runs where hoppou did not drop anything at all, (14 S, 1 A)

At least it's over.

Fuck you, Hoppo.
All the fucking time.
ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

>>13149892
>kill Hoppou and all her friends
>complain that one of your girls got hurt in the process

>>13149927
I didn't kill her, she's there again every time I go back

So, I'm having problems with 2-1, CVs reck my girls, what's the best way to fight them?

AA seems useless and I only have a 1 CVL.

Are CVLs even god?

>>13149933
Kanji begs to disagree. The girl you see next time is her sister. That's why she tells you to go home - they don't want their family to shrink any further.

>>13149940
Where's your Akagi?

>>13149940
>Are CVLs even god?
Zuihou is the god of my heart.

>>13149940
AA is useless without AA cut-in.
CVLs are good but not early on. You need some fighters to fight fire with fire or you can simple brute force the map if you have a BB or couple of CAs.

>>13149940
Don't rush maps if you're not prepared yet, you'll just waste time and resources. Keep trying to construct what you need and level your current ships.

>>13149953
>CVLs are good
Not that guy, but really? I have Chiyoda and Junyou around 60 and they're both bigger crit magnets than Akagi. It's ruining my 4-3 DD leveling.

>>13149972
Basically only the kai nis are any good, and on top of that only Junyou k2 is really top-tier.

>>13149972
My CVLs have had their levels boosted a lot thanks to 4-3 grinding, never really had any problems with them. The CLs I bring along to leach exp get crit more often.

>>13149950
>>13149953
I need a BB to unlock her quest. Guess I'll use my fuel to craft one instead of having fun.

>>13149952
I got a Junyou, her "magician/miko" design is original, but I don't really like her.

>>13149964
>Don't rush maps if you're not prepared yet
I got reck yesterday, so I've crafter the CVL today, as the instrument of my revenge. It didn't work.

Guess I'll grind some levels in 1-5 and craft a BB tomorrow.

And talking about 1-5, I got a cute submarine, I-58, her ballast are a bit too big for my taste tho.

Are SS good? Gimmicky at least?

>>13149972
They're only half as expensive compared to CVs and can do their work (clearing out trash, reaching damage soft cap for shelling) perfectly fine in most of cases. If Kaga's slots aren't needed, CVLs are more efficient.

>>13149997
SS are gimmick incarnate.

>>13150005
I use my SS as CLT substitutes, works fine.

>>13149993
>>13149989
>>13150000
I don't have a huge problem with them, they're cheap and fantastic for wrecking subs. I suppose I've probably been unlucky. It's always CL and CVL getting wrecked at 4-3.

>>13149997
SS have the lowest resource consumption and are cheap and quick to repair, especially unremodeled.

They're very efficient in expeditions and on quite a few maps as well, due to their combat mechanics.

Is there an efficient way to go through the 12 World 4 bosses weekly? I don't imagine most of these maps being quickly done in a week without wasting a lot of buckets.

>>13150108
You should be already be able to smash 4-1 and 4-2 with little trouble.

Abyssfag already made his kusothread. He must've been pretty upset to see this thread take off.

>>13150000
Kaga isn't the only CV. Unryuu class can outdo CVLs in all but ASW for a minor increase in resources used.

Fuck yeah.

Ro-chan grabbed the first kill (11 hours ago) but convincing compass fairies to let me get to boss node for the second time was huge pain so I changed the fleet. Shigure grabbed second kill, Shimakaze third, Shigure fourth and... pic related.
I love you, my little lolis.
All hail Kira Kira Church.

Overall 5-3 took around sixty buckets.

I keep getting BTFO in 2-4. What level am I supposed to be to finish it?

Does Tone wear a c-string?

>>13150160
No, she plays mahjong.

>>13150131
No, he is upset that we are not on page 1 and the touhou gang is winning in thread count.

He also notoriously views these threads on a toaster so he can't load more than 200 posts.

>>13150145
pls respond

>>13150202
That picture is ugly.

>>13150204
no bully

>>13149504

>>13150246

>>13150252

>>13150257

>>13150145
Level doesn't really matter.
Don't rush too hard to finish maps unless you really want to get to 3-2.
I brute forced it a long time ago with 4BB 2CV
But you can probably trade out 2BB or something for CA's.
The most important part is that all your ships are fully modernized apart from AA since that will take time.