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>>13087307
You were fast. So fast you forgot a picture!

>>13087307
Lazy chicano

Let's talk serious now. I believe Ayami got her eyes modded and it ruined her face. They were trying a kawaii look due her petit size but it backfired cuz she is a sarcastic devil. The squinty eyes were much better.

>>13087345
Looks like heavy makeup to me.

>>13087352
Another pic without heavy makeup.

You be the judge. Has science gone too far?

Yes. Poor girl.

>>13087419
what has she been up to? I hate that she mellowed out to be honest.

>>13087669
>what has she been up to

Wat. Quite a lot.

>>13087669
Bizzare outfits, bad makeup, seppuku. You know, just the textbook sabotaging.

So I'm coming back to these threads after about 6 months of not being in the mix. Did I miss anything in particular? The last thing I remember was the two american tours happened.

>>13087945
They're coming again this year, google the dates. Also there are two new songs, check the OP.

>>13087945
The Babymetal girls are dating Unlocking the Truth.

>>13088039
This pic has been deleted 4 times in the past 3 threads. No one cares that you can change ips and troll with this pic. Stop shitting up this fuckin general already.

>>13088039

>>13088057
Yep, this is them at their NYC show last November.

>>13085991

Yeah, it looks like I was :3 I have no interest in posting in other threads, so any image.jpg except in this thread isn't me (if its even me in this thread as anyone can rename their pictures/post from a smartphone and it'll have the image.jpg)

>>13088039
Just to America? Any in Australia?

>>13087345

It's the make up. Back in Sakura Gakuin, they were marketed as innocent students which is why they never really had heavy make ups. Since she's 18 now, they are giving her the full treatment, hence the eyes.

But I do prefer her with long tied hair though.

>>13088263

Just bidded for this at a reasonable price.

>>13088355
Post your full collection please. Will like, share and retweet.

>>13088344
Thanks for posting. Shame though.

>>13088491
This is only part 1 of the tour. They will definitely announce part 2 for the second half of 2015.

>>13087945
Welcome back! Try checking out the info in the OP.

>>13087945
Road of resistanceeeeeeeeee

G'z up

>>13088494
Asia and Oceanic Tour,

Raura is culturally superior.

This is the weirdest game ever.

>>13089838
This is just exaggerated for laughs. You do know how the actual game work right? Ayami is godly with it.

>>13089756
This

Let the britannicas have hope though

>>13088563
I have to say the lack of shitposting is really nice.

>>13089984
There was a Great Normie War.

Normies won.

>>13090099
I'm still licking my wounds
they've won the battle, but not the war

>>13089984

I can start some if you get nostalgic? :3

>>13090318
Pls no

>>13090318
Do it.

>>13091062
Gb2tumblr

>>13090318
Do it buddy.

More muto, because we need it

>>13088355
>not having the new york vip lanyard with included booklet containing personalized individual sharpie signed autographs and pictures from each girl

>>13091865
Yea but britland rekt you guys

>>13092132
keep telling yourself that buddy

>>13092319
Are you really gonna deny it? They got RoR unveiled when it was ready already and skipped out on NY to play it there first. I would've been mad as fuck if I were you.It's okay, britlain got rekt this time around.

>>13092342
Oh please. We got meet and greet in Singapore. Even shook their hands.

>>13092357
Rather have a new song unveiled and be a part of an official video. Also, they're never going back there. Also, rather not be Singapoor.

>>13092357
Wasn't that where the security guard touched Su's butt? Yeah they're never gong back that.

>>13092379
They have been to Singapore every year since 2012. First overseas performance, first overseas solo concert, first meet and greet autograph session.

If there's an Asia tour, Singapore will definitely be on it.

>>13092465
Lol so false. They have only been there once in 2012 for the anime bullshit festival because they didn't know they were way too big for that yet. Sorry, they don't care about idols anymore.

Hey wait, there's gonna be a lelgirl tonight right?

>>13092532
You got that right.

>>13092465
>>13092481

I'm just kiddin m8. That's too mean, I'm just being jealous. They'll probably go back there, but they'll definitely never gb2britlain

>>13091607
Commencing Ayami-tan dump

>>13092627
>>13091607

>>13092646

>you'll never sit around in pyjamas on christmas day with Suzuka opening presents and laughing

>>13092770
This is my dream but with Yui

>>13092778
I like this Ayami general thread

>>13092770
We PG-13 now?

>>13092778

Ayami caught up in head bangya!! madness :3

>>13092838

It's early and I'm tired.

and I had a bad weekend and feel pretty terrible ;_;

>>13092838

>>13092792
Me too.

More Ayami in anticipation of kekgirl

>>13092914

>>13092927
me-ri kurisumasu

>>13092930

>>13092959
Cute!

>>13092984
#Mutohood #AyamiCartel

>>13093040

>>13092481

Do some research so u don't look stupid.

Serious question here how long do you guys think Babymetal are actually going to keep going?
Another one or two albums?

>>13093197
They went back to singapoor after Dec. 28, 2013?

>>13093200
We've had this discussion multiple times already. There are some insiders who post here occasionally and they will retire the band after part 2 of the world tour so the girls can focus on solo projects.

>>13093200
Only Koba's lords knows

>>13093200
>one or two albums

That is about 10 years.

Good thing it's another shit lineup. Don't have to waste my time.

>>13093260
I was disappointed too. At least Megu-tan is there to be cute once in a while.

>>13093223
The solo projects will be Japanese only, so they will completely disappear for us.

From new Hedoban magazine:

>Kobametal: With Babymetal I feel we have already come to the point where they can not be contained in the bracket of being an Idol band, and since in some cases I feel they are putting on Live shows that are richer and heavier than other rock bands I have absolutely no worries regarding this matter.

>Kobametal: There does not seem to be too much different in the way both the Japanese media and the foreign media cover Babymetal as being a unique presence, but I feel that since the overseas cultures do not have the concept of Idol that the foreign press tends to treat Babymetal more as an artist in their own right or as Metal band. And I feel that the overseas media seems to be more enthusiastic in their coverage.

Good lord idol boiz getting absolutely REKT. BBmetaru confirmed for dropping the idol aspect, appealing to normies and metalhurrs.

>>13093428
Why do you think Suzuka has been non existent since she graduated? Say goodbye to Yui and Moa too. Koba with dat image.

>>13093428
There's a problem right there though. I'm sure they will continue in this direction because Amuse wants it so.

But as for the girls. Su wants to be a singer, so she's fine.

Moa loves being an idol. She loves idol. Her life revolves around idols. Even her favourite anime is about idols.

As for Yui, she just wants to be in Sakura Gakuin forever. Be a teacher in SG and the like.

>>13093428
Oversea media don't understand that the girls don't do this because they like metal, but because it is their job as idols.

They're passionate about performing and entertaining, not about metal. They all listen to other music in their free time and have non-metal favorite songs. They would probably prefer to have the Babymetal popularity while performing Sakura Gakuin songs.

I wonder how do US Anons feel when they think of all the future Suzukas that their government vaporized just like that.

>>13093448
Yui wants to move to America

>>13093455
But that doesn't matter because Koba wants BM to be viewed as a legit metal band. Shit, he might even cut the dancing out one day lel

I hope he puts Moa on guitar.

>>13093458

That's why they didn't get RoR :3

>>13093458
It was a terrible thing but she doesn't hold it against us.

Hell, Hiroshimans blame the Japanese government for what happened. The Japanese government/military were pretty terrible people, including how they treated their own people.

>>13093465
It matters, because the girls can decide to do something else after they graduate.

>>13093458

Suzuka's diary written after the 2011 Tohoku Earthquake.

>On March 11, An unbelievably big earthquake occurred in Japan. There are many sufferers in Eastern Japan who still live in difficulty that's painful for all people in Japan and in the world.
On that day, I was in Japan. I worried so much because trains had stopped and cell phones did not work. But many people protected me and I was OK.
While I was in Tokyo, there were still many small earthquakes and blackouts. Exchanging emails with Sakura Gakuin members and Airi chan being with me all the time made me feel safe.
Airi chan could not make contact with her family for a long time, but she hid her anxiousness from me. I found Airi chan is very strong and I respect her from my heart.
Four days later, while I was not aware of what was happening in detail, I came back to Hiroshima. I finally found how serious it was by watching TV. I was very scared because everything was unbelievable and it did not seem like Japan. I felt shame that I did not know anything and I did not do anything.
All people in Japan are doing what they can do. I thought very much of what I can do as a girl living in Hiroshima.
I do not have much money, but I decided to donate my saved 1 yen coins for four years. I heard that it may take more than ten years to be recovered. What I can do now may not be a lot, but every time I find something that I can do, I will do it.
Thousands of small powers can make a big power I believe.
My town Hiroshima lost everything in the past and recovered.
It was the time before I born. My current town was rebuilt from nothing which I still cannot believe from the old photos. So I believe that current situations cannot be believed by future people.
I pray that sad things will not happen any more.
I think there are many people including Sakura Gakuin members and fans supporting us who are still working in difficult situations. I hope the day soon comes that we can sing together with laughter."

>>13093470
New York didn't deserve it because they didn't sell out, but the end goal is ALWAYS Amurrica.

>>13093480
End goal, but that doesn't change the fact that Europe is where they are the most popular now.

>>13093476
Lel at thinking they will anytime soon.

I only going to miss Yui. Moa and Su can disappear for all that I care.

>>13093482
Mmmm, per capita yes, but there are MUCH more fans in America by sheer volume. Either way, it's hardest to get big in America. Once you're big in America you can play anywhere in the world.

>>13093486
You're right, but for the wrong reasons.
Yui and Moa have said, that they don't know what to do after graduation, because so far, they spent their entire life working for Sakura Gakuin.

>>13093479
She's such a gentle girl it brings tears to my eyes.

>>13093489
Too bad she's gonna be getting the business by Jamal daily when she moves to New York.

>>13093492
>entire life

No. They've been in the entertainment industry years before. Babymetal's activities will ramp up and it will leave little time for anything else but school. They definitely won't leave BM voluntarily at least for 2 years.

>>13093513
Moa said something to the effect that they have lived for Sakura Gakuin and cannot imagine anything else, that's what I meant.

>>13093513
Watch LoGirl #1. They clearly stated they what >>13093486 said.

>>13093515
Well I'm sure Su felt just as strongly about it. I know how much Moa cares about it and I myself have stated that she is an idol freak plenty of times but she is in BM and Koba made the obvious confirmed with this latest interview. I knew it. Their subdued ass western interviews. How quickly they took down the secret Singapore documentary. Koba wants to kill the kawaii side of them and really gives a fuck about their image.

So when do we split BM and SG into separate generals? After graduation? Now?

Never. If you want to discuss Babymetal and not be bothered by sagaku pics you can go back to reddit.

>>13093528
the leaked documentary is obviously not meant for public.

It's likely meant for investors or the higher ups in amuse as a proposal to further invest and promote babymetal back in 2012.

Hell, you can even see Koba taking the videos himself in it.

How long do you reckon Su brushes her hair for each day?

Would she let me do it as a job?

>>13093472
That's most likely due to American imposed guilt
We're even taught that nuking CIVILIAN sites was somehow justified because it "ended the war" even though Japan was already defeated and the emperor was ready to surrender
Because explicitly targetting civilians to test out your new toys is such a morally justifiable act

Fuck the retards that ever think it's okay to bring civilians into their retarded power struggles

>>13093685
Fuck off with that shit.

>>13093515
What many western fans don't understand is how important Sakura Gakuin is to the girls.

Moa and Yui breathe SG. If they are ever given a choice between BM and SG, they'll choose SG in a heartbeat.

Moa has also stated that her biggest motivation for Babymetal is that it allows her to promote SG to more audiences worldwide.

>>13093717
They probably spent more time with the SG staff than with their family in the last 3 years.

>>13093727
This year's graduation is gonna be the hardest to swallow. Moa and Yui are the longest serving members in SG to graduate thus far. 5 years.

I gonna cry now.

>>13093739
Time to suicide. You know that we will never see them again outside of BM concerts, right? No more blogs or variety shows or streams or tweets...

>>13093739
>>13093745
>mfw I've been Hellopro fan for 10+ years and became desensitized to graduations

However, I do keep getting deeper and deeper into SG through Babymetal and I'm starting to feel Moa and Yui graduation will affect me more than I would expect.

>>13093465
>I hope he puts Moa on guitar.

Meanwhile in Hellopro:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCyKsQQ3UFA

The girl on the right wrote this piece, look up Lovendor if you're interested.

>>13093739

>have to watch Yui and Moa in tears during the graduation
>they will be legit upset and not want to graduate
>won't be able to comfort them through their sadness
>even though it won't make much difference as they love SG so much ;_;

>>13093745
It's just like how I'm dying everyday wanting to get abit of news on Su and Nene.

>>13093700
>knowing nothing about Japanese history

>>13093685
B-b-but muh Uhmurrican Pwide

If anything Su should be thanking murka. They gave her superpowers.

>>13094458
That reminds me, does anyone have the shooped pic of Su and her accordian neck???

>>13094577
Also interested

>>13093685
There is literally video proof of Japanese civilians and soldiers committing suicide(not to mention kamikaze) after Americans won battles because their government told them to, claiming Americans would subject them to the worst torture and rape all their women. Not to say that didn't happen at all(Okinawa was a bitch) but the Japanese government were far and away the worst offenders of how they treated their own people.

Also, Japan refused to agree to the Potsdam Declaration after the US and Russia met up in Berlin and beat Hitler. They continued to refuse after the first atomic bomb, even lying to their civilians on what happened. Not that I'm in favor of the atomic bomb, but let's not forget who was the aggressor and had a hard on for imperialism since centuries ago.

Sigh

>tfw realising Su's weight is listed as 37kg last time I noticed.
>Can OHP her with one arm

Can you spin your waifu around like a baton anons? :3

>>13093562
Babymetal is for normies now. Get out of my general creepy weeb.

>>13094623
But the other side was mean too so it's okay that we tested atomic weapons on innocent civilians and then guilted them into blaming the usage on their own leaders and not the actual people that made te decision.

>>13094629
Unit 731

There's nothing more cancerous than newfags.

>Unit 731
Have you looked around you? You are on 4chan.

>>13094657
That was war back then. Around half the casualties in World War 2 were civilians. If I remember correctly, way more people were killed in the Tokyo bombing campaign that took place after, which is when they finally decided to surrender. Again, not saying it's right but you can watch documentaries today and maimed survivors typically blame their government.

>>13094672
There's nothing more cancerous than newfags.

>atomic bomb
Have you looked around you? You are on 4chan.

>>13094672
All of my this.

>>13094682
>>13094657
>>13094661
>>13094623
>>>/int/

From this morning's kekgirl

>>13093685

>Operation downfall with an estimated death toll of 5 millions dead at best sure was worth taking the risk !

Anyone have Yunano or Shirai Saki as their waifu?

>>13094708
>>>/int/

>>13094686
Yuimato go back to your facebook groups and reddit already. You go on the logirl ircs and that is for reddit people, full of reddit people. Stop trying to act like a trveblve 4chn already

Yunano is mai misstress

>>13094715
I didn't even know there was a logirl irc.

If you're going on it then you're the one that should go back to reddit.

>>13094725

>>13094699
who is the wrestling fan?

>>13094744
Ta-gu-chi Ha-naaa

>>13094744
>wrestling fan
literally
tupkake

Sakura Gakuin had another open class recently, pics incoming

Guys guys guys I think i did something really wrong...

>>13094797
What is it anon-kun?

Is this Saki? She has...matured.

This one's for that spicgirl dude

>>13094821
That's ooga booga Saki. She's grown tremendously.

Shirai here.

She is definitely part of the semen demon club now. Got the hawk eye on her.

Saved the best for last.

>>13094866
>tfw Yui is aware of them ebin internet memes

I am embarassed /jp/

>>13093569
It was displayed in a public event in Tokyo.

Perfume also has the same exact kind of doc with the same opening and editing and it was released to the public.

>>13093727
Dat hyperbole

>>13094639

Man I'm listening to Muto Armani for the first time since Paralel World was released and I liked her music before but it sounds especially great now. I wonder if it's because I'm just listening and not watching. Maybe the fashion choices take away from it too much for me, but she looks nice here though.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kOZ6EqrOUO8

Where did it all go wrong?

>>13094843
>now
She always was, but for a special audience

>>13095050
Since Ayami Piñata Muto

Who produces Ayami? Who is behind that sarcastic little devil?

She should be acting. Most of nihon actors are manlets. Then in 6 years she could have her own show and make snarky comments about her guests.

>>13095152
Yeeees. I've said it before. She would make an amazing host. Too bad she lost her edge. Either from growing up or a forced super happy fun time idol image imposed on her.

Don't you love all the assblasting?

>>13094790
Denim makes me feel funny feels

>>13095490
>>13095494
>>13095498
LINK PLS

>>13095511
This.

>>13089056
>>13095517
The hell you doing to your pics buddy

>>13095511
>>13095517
it isn't out yet, they just teased this on reddit

>>13095523
Sorry they were just bad quality saved pictures I posted in a rush.

>>13094790
Where did you find these pics?

>>13095684
http://natalie.mu/music/gallery/show/news_id/139146/image_id/365222

>>13095700
But where did you find that?

>>13095721
http://www.babymetalnewswire.com/2015/02/22/sakura-gakuin-open-classes-with-yamashita-report-photos/

>>13095725
Completely forgot about this site. I remember it seeming small time and too fanboyish to take seriously.

>>13096055

I liked these threads better when they were about Babymetal and not the just Yui & Ayami Muto Spamfest.

>>13096087
For you.

>>13096087
Thanks

Anyonr have that accordian neck Su pic???

>>13096123
I dont like this pic, it reminds me of fgsds anon

>>13096137
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fgsfds

>>13096087
The perfect picture.

>>13096141
dude I know its a meme, but only you use that shit.

>>13096136
your best chance is with image.jpg whenever he wake up

>>13096137
You're so picky anon.

>>13096087
>stop posting the 2 best girls
rly m8?

Anyways take some Sugisaki for the problems

>>13096153

>>13096159
I can't see the moa

>>13096159
Fuck, not again.

>>13096156
>2 best

More like bottom top 4

>>13096159
I remember seeing this pic a while back but never saving it. The similarities are weird in a creepy way.

>>13096172
anon pls

>>13096214
>>13096208
>>13096191

>>13096172

>>13096233

>>13096251

>>13096263

Yuimato what's with Toronto not being sold out and GA still available at just a 1,500 capacity venue. You guys are fuckin up.

>>13096421
That is pretty fucked. Within minutes half of the seats were booked and I enlarged my credit debt buying VIP tickets and there are still tickets left?!

>>13096504
Who those tranys?

>>13096504
Moar

>>13096621
Fuck off

>>13096630
Respect Su's Hiroshima sempai m8

>>13096481
People are worrying that not enough tickets are being sold in Toronto.

Disappointing Canada, disappointing.

>>13096481
>>13096847
Brixton took a few weeks to sell out so I wouldn't worry.

>>13096847
The meme is kill?

>>13096875
Brixton with 5,000 people(which sold out on the day of the show). NY almost sold out with 3,500 but to be fair it was an election day. Chicago's show is a bit smaller but it sold out pretty fast. LA sold out within minutes in a similar size venue and they were way less popular at that time. Not to mention BM has already played a festival in Canada, which should've helped a lot as it did in London.

But what can you do. Canadia is too soft for bbmetaru eh?

>>13097002
Greater NYC population: 19 million
Greater LA population: 18 million
Greater CHI population: 9 million
Greater LON population: 8 million
Greater TO population: 6 million

Maybe this is why Toronto isn't selling out as fast?

Babymetal didn't even make those special country-specific videos they made last year for their world tour so only truFUKEI know of the Toronto event.

>>13097105
True but this is their first and only solo show that is known of in Canada. So you'd expect people to make the trip from further away. And even though Chicago area has 3 million more, it sold out within a couple hours. It's been at least a week for Toronto. As long as they sell out soon it will be okay but compared to other similar sized venues it's not looking great so far. I saw General Admission tickets still available. That's rough.

>>13097117
>That's rough.
There's still 2 1/2 months until the show.

>>13097119
>implying they won't cancel it

>>13097132
Who are you quoting?

I would personally purchase more tickets to avoid that if that were to be the case but people still have 10 more weeks to buy.

>>13097144
That's >y(ui's)fw she saw how many tickets are still available :(

>>13097144
It's just a discussion. Fans from various sites are just worried it might get cancelled even though the chances are pretty low.

>>13097132
It better have more sales then. Even if they don't cancel it, it's a gauge on their popularity in Canada. Amuse may not wanna risk another show there in the future if they can sell out fast elsewhere.

>>13097304
Amuse makes the same amount of money whether they sell out a venue a day or 3 months before the event. The NYC show didn't even sell out and there are already two confirmed concerts in Northeastern USA.

>>13097287
We have better odds of getting struck by lightning than having the Toronto show cancelled for not selling out so early.

>>13097313
>Amuse makes the same amount of money whether they sell out a venue a day or 3 months before the event. The NYC show didn't even sell out and there are already two confirmed concerts in Northeastern USA.

With no New York dates. It's a risk factor. A location that sells out faster is a safer bet and it sure as hell tells them about their popularity in that region.

>With no New York dates
They were only recently in NYC. It wouldn't make sense for them to go there again so soon.

I expect London and NYC concerts scheduled for their World Tour 2015 part II.

I mean, you're ignoring the fact that they're having trouble selling tix at a tiny venue, in a country they played a festival. When you compare it to Chicago it looks bad.

>>13093685
>alternative was a two pronged invasion plan that would have torn Japan in two post-war, and left millions dead

:^)

>>13097385
Let's put it this way. America rebuilt Japan with American influence. If America didn't win, Japan would be as imperialistic as ever, and super serious/honorable. Idols wouldn't even exist. America created idols. America created BM and SG.

>>13097412
America also created anime and JAV by the same token.

>>13097412
For fuck's sake. Dropping the atomic bomb is a fucking war crime that killed civilians.

>>13097484
You think that's all? The US sends doctors in Japan after the bomb was dropped.

It was NOT to help civilians recover from the burns and radioactivity. It was to study the effects.

>>13097489
and Japan surrendered because of RUSSIA. Not that fucking bomb. USA loves to take credit for shits.

>>13097385
It's what the United States was planning to do at the time.

>>13097500
Why would Japan surrender unconditionally just because it lost a colony?

>>13097560
Just a colony? Soviet declared war on Japan. Their 5 year pact was ending. Japan had their troops in the south. They couldn't deal with a russian invasion.

USA just dropped the bomb at the right time and declared to the world that they ended the war when in fact all they ever did was killing 150000 civilians.

>>13097484
Yeah, it was. So was the firebombing. So was the invasion. So was the entire war.

What you need to keep in mind is that japanese cities were being bombed into ashes anyway, and the nuclear bomb was just more of the same.

It probably saved lives. The emperor of Japan at the time couldn't surrender because his military staff around him wouldn't let it happen. He was actually okay with stepping down (IE unconditional surrender) but his followers were not.
And so the stage was set for a hard, grueling war. The Japanese fought hard, they fought super fucking hard. Their civilians would kill themselves rather than get captured. If the war had gone on for another half year, millions more would be dead.
WW2 was fucking awful, and the nuclear weapons were the cherry on top, but the cake had already been made.

>>13097571
>They couldn't deal with a russian invasion.
Stalin didn't have the logistic capability to land or supply an invasion of mainland Japan and northern Japan has no good beachheads anyway. Throwing a million more corpses in the grinder won't get him there unless Stalin figured out how to sail boats made of corpses across the Tsushima.

>>13097612
>saved lives
why? if they did not drop the bombs the sadistic appetite of the american leaders would not have been sated? you do realize they used the bombs because they wanted to see what the affects were on people and the area affected, there was nothing noble about it. and it doesn't matter if you keep on listing all the other crap that happened, the fact is that dropping nukes on civilians is severely fucked up, people with power made that decision, they made an evil decision.

>jap emperor ready to surrender
>wants to ensure he is safe under the terms
>americans ignore the fuck out of this because mah big ballz
>kill civilians
>b-b-but we saved lives!

>>13097635
Look up the firebombing of tokyo.
Dresden. Hamburg. The fires were so big that the asphalt was melting, and people would stand in it trying to escape the fire, their feet trapped in molten asphalt, they'd fall and use their hands to break their fall and they'd be stuck there, screaming as molten asphalt is extremely hot. The suffering in WW2's conventional bombing was already horrific and extreme.
The nukes weren't that bad compared to those.

Be clear what you're arguing, too. You seem to be arguing "why not drop it on empty ground?"
And the answer to that is twofold:
1. They were bombing cities already. The nukes killed 250,000. Conventional bombing killed more than that.
2. Showing that they had the balls to do it. If you don't have the balls then having them is pointless.

They didn't really need to know what would happen- they already knew. The trinity test told them exactly what would happen to a city- it was not an experiment.
They wanted to kill people. Kill 250,000 to save a million.
Look up the fighting on the pacific islands. It was horrific.

It's nice to be able to sit here in hindsight and go 'hurr durr it was evil'. The entire war was evil.
When you're sitting around thinking about whether to use this shit or not you have the looming japanese invasion where your experts are telling you that millions of AMERICANS will die. The invasion of japan was going to cost millions of americans, millions of japanese. Forget how many american soliders it's worth- Civilians were dying too. On the islands, the japanese military were killing off the civilians so they wouldn't go into enemy hands.
It's all evil.

>>13097612
Truman labeled Hiroshima as a military base in order to justify the bombing of the city. Even though he knew that majority of the death will be civilians.

The Japanese emperor was getting ready to surrender after Russia wiped the fuck out of their army in manchuria. Truman knows about this but didn't give a fuck.

>>13097654
Protip: The military was not willing to surrender unconditionally. The emperor was, but the military was not.
Supreme control doesn't mean much if your military is so fanatic that they won't let you lose your throne.
They were making plans that involved japanese fighting tooth and nail, and were planning that the americans would have to fight bitterly to japan. In their plans there were millions of american deaths and millions of japanese deaths.

>>13097662
Huh? What are you talking about. Every other city was bombed just as bad.
Do you not know anything about WW2?
Tokyo was firebombed. Hundreds of thousands dead. Almost every japanese city except hiroshima and nagasaki was firebombed, and since the houses were wooden, hundreds of thousands died.
They were killing civilians by the millions already.
How the japanese industry worked is that to prevent bomb damage, they spread the industry out throughout the city, so they only way to hit it was to hit everything.
What you have a problem with is bombing civilians, not the nukes.
Firebombs killed more than the nukes.
Hell, after the nukes were dropped, Tokyo was firebombed AGAIN afterwards.

>>13097674
You don't get it. The problem is Americans committing war crimes and calling themselves heroes. Justifying everything they did like what you are doing right now.

THIS IS A SAKURA GAKUIN THREAD. STFU ABOUT WWII.

>>13097682
They get to do that because they won.
Everyone was committing war crimes. America just had the biggest bombs.
Not all of the shit about what the japanese were doing to their POWs (They didn't take POWs) was propaganda. When I mean they didn't take POWs is I mean they didn't take alive POWs.

It's nice being able to sit in hindsight but if the invasion happened and millions more people were dead you'd be sitting here complaining that they didn't use the nukes.

>>13097686
Sorry. It annoys me when people single out the nukes as being unjustified. Mainly because they're ignoring the rest of the civilian bombing, which was worse in magnitude, and just as unjustified.

>>13097658
>looming japanese invasion
you realize that their navy was basically a baby's toy at that point, the majority of their pilots dead, aircraft destroyed, and they were running out of fuel.

>>13097695
It shouldn't annoy you, it's not like they are discounting the other atrocities, you just seem to like to imply that for them. Individual events can be looked at and that is what we are doing here. Of course, the retards will come out and try to derail the conversation by bringing up other subjects.

>>13097658
>They didn't really need to know what would happen- they already knew

Actually, they didn't know how it would affect people at ground zero, dumbass. That was the whole point of dropping them on a populated area, it was an opportunity they couldn't give up, because they were sick fucks that understood they could get away with it.

>>13097738
Japanese preparations for the American landing on Kyushu:

1 training cruiser: Kashima
3 line destroyers: Ushio, Hibiki, Yukikaze
16 reserve destroyers
38 standard submarines [suicide torpedoes]
1300 midget submarines [suicide charges]: ko-hyoteki + kairyu
3300 Shinyo suicide boats [hull explosive, rocket launcher]
4000 Fukuryu suicide divers [naval mines]
7000 Kamikaze planes
1,000,000 regular soldiers
5,000,000 conscripts

Not present:
1 battleship: Nagato [stuck in Yokosuka]
4 cruisers: Myoukou, Takao [stuck in Singapore], Kitakami [stuck in Kure], Sakawa [stuck in Maizuru]
1 carrier: Houshou [Kure]

I won't be posting any more as imposter.jpg.

In fact, I won't be posting much any more, I've been feeling pretty useless at life so I'm looking at ways to try and actually be happy.

These threads, although a nice distraction, aren't helping me in that aspect.

Bai guiz, might come back to report in after the next live UK show or something.

>>13097695
There is a gigantic gap between war, as gruesome as it is, fought between combatants, and deliberate indiscriminate killing of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians with one pull of a trigger on your fantastic awesomely powerful weapon that no one in the world has heard about until then. Just to put a dot over the "i" that was already being written anyway.

And for the record, firebombings were inhumane bullshit and there's no justification to them either, other than waging an all-out war of attrition on entire civilian and military population Japan and now saying that it's ok, because it's the victors who write the history books.

>>13097805
You will be missed. Good luck in all your endeavors.

>>13097805
>>13097837
In case the first webm didn't generate enough feels

>>13097818
THIS

/thread

>>13097818
It makes no sense to get angry about the nukes when everything else was worse.

>>13097916
Anon never said they weren't, what do you not understand? Your logic is retarded lol u 12 year old m8y, we're discussing the nukes because of Hiroshima being a site and one of the members being from there. Hurr durr go back to tumblr.

>>13097942
Erm, what? Did you quote wrong?

>>13097967
I don't see the confusion??

>>13097805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK5zPRpGtH0

NEW THREAD
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>>13098194
>300 / 164 / 49 / 2
No, get fucked.

Lol at the blatant bias ITT.

If I listed all the Japanese atrocities committed during WW2 there wouldn't be enough space in one post, yet you are only worked up about one thing the Americans did. Fine, the atomic bombing was terrible? Okay, now admit that the Japanese military were pure evil as well.

If Japan was willing to surrender, they would've. Not decline the Potsdam Declaration, and then continue to refuse surrender after the first atomic bomb. That is plain false. Lol at the Japanese giving up without a fight on their home turf.

And that same fucking idiot calling newfag for pointing out unit 731 and saying this is 4chan is the same fuckin idiot crying about a nuke.

And the same fucking idiots saying 9/11 was America's fault for their foreign policy are not holding the Japanese accountable for invading Singapore, Philippines, multiple islands in the Pacific, and bombing Pearl Harbor and committing war crimes daily.

>I can genocide and still being the good boy.

>>13096421
>>13096847
>>13097105
>>13097117

Amuse must think that Canada is one just small country or something.

>>13097002
>Not to mention BM has already played a festival in Canada

This guy also thinks that Canada is one small country. London and Brixton are practically next door to each other.

They're still testing the international water, and they barely tipped their toe in at Heavy MTL last year, now they're playing a solo show that is in an entirely different province, 500+ kilometers away. On top of that, they're trying to upsell the whole VIP bullshit that works well in Japan but they don't carry that sort of weight just yet in other countries. Plus most Canadians avoid Toronto because they don't want to get shot by Somalians.


That being said, bands don't cancel tour dates unless they REALLY sell poorly. If anything they should have a solo show in Montreal since they already played here last year and did well. Maybe they're already planning that and it'll be revealed in the 2nd half of their tour.

>>13098285

>>13098302
>Plus most Canadians avoid Toronto because they don't want to get shot by Somalians.

Toronto is Japan-tier safe.

http://safecities.economist.com/infographics/safe-cities-index-infographic/

I would love it if they did a Montreal solo concert in their world tour 2015 part 2. That just means two Babymetal concerts in a year for me!

>>13098285
>>>/int/
>>>/pol/

>>13098329
>>>/reddit/
>>>/facebookgroup/

>>13098295
You talking about the Japanese treatment of Chinese, Koreans, and Okinawans? And how rampant soldiers raping their own women was? Yea it was pretty fucked up, in fact many of them still hold it against Japan today because they just won't apologize.

I give up. The retard found a proxy, he's going to shitpost nonstop now. Good luck to you guys.

>>13098302
Isn't Toronto by far the most populous city in Canada? Yea, it's a terrible sign if they aren't selling tickets for a tiny venue.

>>13098360
I'm just talking about good guys killing 'bad' guys

>>13098347
If you want to discuss history and politics you've come to the wrong board.

At least post a BM/SG PIC to make your posts slightly relevant to this thread or even board.

>>13098329
>Toronto is Japan-tier safe.

As far gun violence goes, not really.

30 shootings this year so far, and we're only two months in.

Granted, it's not the worst city or province for gun violence, but the fact that the mayor was a cartoonish crackhead bumblefuck with ties to the Somalian drug trade didn't help Toronto's image.

Whoops, now I'M talk politics, that shit spreads.

You live somewhere between Toronto and Montreal? I know that the Vans Warped Tour is playing in T-dot in July but besides that there's no other real metal/punk/rock festivals other than Heavy MTL. It would've made sense for Babymetal to try and get on the Warped Tour, get some new fans, and THEN book a solo concert.

I'm sure they're at least going play Heavy MTL again, if not I'm going to commit sudoku.

>>13098381
You are such a fucking idiot. You ALWAYS make this post towards the rebuttal, not the actual inflammatory posts that spawn off topic derailment. You know why? Because you are taking sides. You only have a problem with the off topic posts that you don't like. Shut the fuck up already ledditshit. You don't fool anyone with your niceguy unbiased act, and you don't represent this general newfag.

>>13098385
Lol Chicago gets 30 shootings on a Friday night. What's your point?

>>13098401
Don't forget the girls are going to play in Mexico.
In Mexico

>>13098395
>taking sides
I just replied to the last off-topic post I saw, sorry if I gave you the wrong impression. I don't really care about your argument.

>>13098385
Thank God the Fords are not in the mayor office anymore.

I live in the GTA but wouldn't mind missioning to Montreal, even if they were to do another Heavy MTL (I'm not a metal fan outside of Babymetal).

>>13098408
Supposedly the mexifags say it's not that bad in Mexico City lel don't know about that.

>>13098372
It is, but it's somewhat isolated from the rest of the country. It's closer to Detroit than it is to Montreal, where they had their first Canadian. show.

Plus, they're selling tickets, they're just not selling out ASAP.

>>13098395
Son, you have problems.

>>13098427
>it's not that bad in Mexico City
bad in what context? you will not get beheaded if that is what you meant

>>13098427
Compared to a cartel plaza isn't that bad, but believe me, it is still bad, incredibly high non-drug crime rates compared to every other city in their world tour

>>13098436
Niggas getting mad cuz Americans done dropped a nuke on this thread rekt

>>13098401
>>13098408
Chicago and Mexico aren't in Canada. This isn't an international gun violence contest.

Someone who's only heard of them and is at most a little curious might not be willing to drive down to a city that's completely out of the way and has gotten a bad rep over the years.

That's why Toronto didn't sell out in the blink of an eye.

>>13098439
>you will not get beheaded

Lol that's what it takes for a city to be bad in Mehico

>>13098450
Lol that's the worst excuse I ever heard. Plenty of people are coming from all over the US to Chicago and Chicago has a rep of being the worst city in America because it has far and away the most murders every year. Dude, Chicago gets almost as many murders in one year as all of Canada does.

>>13098456
>bad in Mehico
you know nothing mi amigo

>>13098476
I know you bae :) <3

Fuck all your WWII and international politics. We have more important politics to discuss here.

RINON OR SHIRAI FOR PRESIDENT?

>>13098493
>SHIRAI
uwut?
Ooga would be funny tho

>>13098474
Again, America has its own standards and geographically speaking, they're completely different. Chicago and Illinois are immediately surrounded by all of the mid-west-ish states, Toronto is tucked away literally at the bottom of Canada practically surrounded by lakes on all sides and is only going to attract people from the Greater Toronto Area.

>>13098506
Ignore him dude.

>>13098506
Well then my original point of Canada being too soft for BM's heaviness is validated MoaMaestro.

>>13098502
>Ooga would be funny tho

>>13098516
>MoaMaestro.

lolwut?

>>13098516
What does gun violence or geographical disposition have to do with metal?

>MoaMaestro

YOUR REDDIT IS SHOWING, NEWFRIEND

>>13098524

>>13097928
we need more legs

>>13098546
What's that? You want more black people? Are you sure?

If someone has new legs please post. I just have a bunch of oldies. Bonus points for mature Ooga.

>>13098548
do niggers really bother you? i think is funny how niggs have zero effect on the nice post

>>13098562
>he thinks those are bare legs showing

cute.

>>13098596
look at those used up bodies smh

>>13098596
>>13096525

>mexibrah only visits bbm general

Good goy