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>>13058455
I think I last posted these pages here five years ago. Or maybe I just wanted to, and couldn't find them?

Shangri-la has the best name, though.

>>13058455
I am very arigatouful that you replied. I almost had post my please respond image with the fairy in it.

>>13058455
>>13058468

I-is this a manga about mythology lessons?

Eat shit Fomoria! Tuatha and Fir Bolg kill you!

>>13060084
Tuatha+Nemedians+Parthalonians+Fir Bolg kill Fomoria. Goat scum return to watery depths. Tir na nOg and Avalon are Sidhe clay

Throughout time people have wanted to go to the other world. Since our world is shitty and fairyless.

>>13060361
Well, what kind of person would want to live in a world that doesn't have Luna in it?

i want a rude fairy. ZUN should provide

>tfw we will never get a Touhou focused around Celtic fairies, no Urisg, no Dullahan, no Cu Sith, no Meiling too.

>>13062410
>oh nooo, a Japanese will never use Celtic, Jedi and Chinese mythology
>oh nooooo

>>13062410
>not wanting the Fiana and the Morrigans
MILESIAN SCUM

>>13060047
It's a shit-tier harem manga, sorry

>>13062436
Call me when someone brings up Bean Nighe's laundromat or Selkie's diving schools.

>>13060361
The fairies are exclusive to the Celtic otherworld though.

>>13061666
All the fairies are pretty rude and childish. If anything we need an Ojou-sama Queen of the Fairies, like Titania.

>>13062727
But we already have a fairy queen.

>>13062754
That's not Daiyousei.

A hypothetical Haruhi S3 isn't going to bring back old /a/ or your kid-self, anon.

No matter how hard you try, that sparkly world where everything was new and awesome will never come back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6iZKNfDuh4

>>13062863

We'll never be able to return because it turns out Aya Hirano is a slut and it ruined Haruhi forever.

>>13062863
Don't make me cry. I'm 25, I can't cry.

>>13062561
I kill you, Sidhe scum. Return to your barrows...Fomoria will rise again!

>>13058455
As expected of Patchouli.

>>13062754
She's more a like Achilles of Fairyland

>>13063850
'Mon'nen, cac ceann!

>>13065152
Rath Chimbalth nevar forget

>>13064146
>there will never be a 2hu game starring Patchouli with drink mixing and bladder mechanics integral to the design
Why live

Nodoka > Patchy

>>13066433
blonde Remi > Nodoka

>>13066463
can't argue with that one

loli vampire a best

>>13062727
Daiyousei is not rude!

>>13066463
My favourite is Chinese Meiling.

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>>13058412

> We're a bunch of people on a set of islands of the mainland.
> Our culture shares some similarities to the mainland dickheads.
> We've got a ridiculous long history.
> We've had to deal with queer religions the high and snobby foreigners brought over and caught on.
> We've got ridiculously in depth myths that are currently being romanticized all over the fucking place in modern media
> We both used martial arts using semi-practical melee weapons that are currently being revived

By the Giant's Causeway.

I actually honestly belief in fairies, we are just so disconnected from the nature and the 'true' life, so its no wonder people stop believing in super natural creatures.

It is not as strange as you might think, people just in general have a very narrow perspective about reality.

>>13076648
Why do you believe in fairies?

>>13076591
You also wore animals and whipped yourself into mushroom-induced frenzies.

>>13076648
I've experienced plenty of things myself, but I couldn't go as far as to say fairies exist. Such things cost more than they pay, so to speak. I think it's better in the long run to shut those things out.

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>>13076673
If you believe in any form of supernatural, even God, fairies come kinda naturally.

I haven't seen one, or I don't know exactly in what form they would exist, but I have reasons to think they could be elementals formed from air element, but people generally just lump all similiar things together, so any small spirit could be considered a fairy?

I find it kind of hilarious that the lore of spirits is all around us in everywhere, in our language, tv shows, movies, books, and used to be commonly believed thing since the human existence, and it is today, except in our small modern society, that is ever growing, I wonder how long it takes for the world to forget, but then, they are never truly lost, they are always there as long as humans exist.

>>13076591
Don't forget that we also both have a big maritime history and Empire building legacy, and our history of tensions with our closest, much larger, mainland neighbours (baka french/chinese). And we both still have our kawaii Royal Families.

>>13066545
She's the kind of fairy that would fuck you in the ass, and not even have the courtesy to give you a reach-around.

>>13076740
I think many people tend to give fanciful names to things that aren't really out of the ordinary. I wouldn't call OBEs supernatural. God isn't supernatural; god simply means supreme being, what or whoever that is at any given time. However, the christian god and fairies are certainly nonexistant, the latter because we now understand atmospheric systems and objects at molecular levels.

>>13077082
Different names mean different things to different people, but traditionally God is a supernatural being, of course, if you use a different definition, anything can be anything.

Athmospheric systems or moleculars do not disprove any fairies or gods that I'm aware of, since they don't exist in the physical plane to begin with, I can't understand where you came to that conclusion.

>>13077122
Calling something by a different name doesn't change what it is. At first there were gods, then christians creates the one god, who was conveniently named God.
What I was getting at is nothing can be supernatural because nature is all there is.

Planes of existance don't support or oppose the existance of fairies, either. The question is about the explanation of certain phenomena, and the molecular model is much greater than the fairy model because there is more to work with than "because fairies did it."

>>13077191
This form of communication is indeed feeble.

The God/gods, fairies, planes, etc, I'm pretty sure we have kind of different ideas of what they are.

Of course nothing can be "supernatural", because everything is natural, but I'm sure you understand what I mean when I use the word.

I have hard time grasping what the christians mean with their "God", as it should mean a truly superior being, but in the book it acts too humane for one truly deserving the greatest honor, so I assume that the one is just a god, one creature of many, not "The God".

I didn't mean to say that fairies are why weather works the way it does, but while we are at it, the fairie is a being, meaning that it can manipulate elements, like I would manipulate a tool, for example, if I greate something with a tool, do you say that the tool created it? If a fairie manipulates a weather to do something, would you say that the molecules did it?

>>13077335
Fairies are derived from sprites, but when someone says fairy I assume "little winged naked person" unless otherwise specified.

I just wanted to make clear the God/god distinction because, to those who believed in their gods, they were seen as actually real, and not supernatural as with the christian God.

Christian God is basically an all-encompassing entity that manifests itself in multple forms, so he's both The God and a creature of many.

Now for the fairy analogy. There is a flaw in the formation of your question.
>if I greate something with a tool, do you say that the tool created it?
The creation is made by both the wielder of the tool and the creator of the tool itself. Of course, we know nothing is truly "created," only changed in form.
>If a fairie manipulates a weather to do something, would you say that the molecules did it?
The flaw is confusing the elements of a system with its products, which are caused by the interaction of the elements. Wind, for example, is form air takes when moving between areas of differing atmospheric pressures. To ask if a fairy manipulates weather is to ask what force can move things at a meteorological level. Molecules don't matter at that level. I brought it up initially because I wasn't sure if you meant the air itself, or the forms it can take.

So, while the existance of atmospheric systems doesn't disprove the existance of fairies, it does lead one to wonder what it is exactly that they're doing to begin with ;)

>>13077646
>Christian God is basically an all-encompassing entity that manifests itself in multple forms, so he's both The God and a creature of many.

You could say that we all are manifests of the form of a The God (if we assume that it exists, and is all-encompassing), so we infact are manifests of it in multiple forms.

>>Of course, we know nothing is truly "created," only changed in form.

Wisely said.

>The flaw is confusing the elements of a system with its products, which are caused by the interaction of the elements

Well my question was perhaps a bit badly worded, but surely you got the idea.

The basic elemenents for me are a more wider consept, for example, the physical fire you see is merely one manifestation of the element fire, but often people think that the physical manifestation fire, is the element of fire. Fire element has many qualities, bright, active, dry, warm, for example, can be used to describe it, and its manifestations are anger, explosion, fire, colour red, etc, but usually things are composed of many elements, like the human body needs all four elements to survive.

Sadly, There is no way I can prove the existence of fairies, other planes, or similiar, one simply needs to experience them himself, conduct their own theories, or read what others have written, those that do not have a physical body, cannot be touched by the physical instruments, and cannot be examined, unfortunately.

If you want to ask something, I can answer truthfully, but I need to go sleep now, so later!

the problem in discussions like these is that people on multiple sides of the issues conceive of higher entities in parochial, anthropomorphic terms.

but they are not anthropomorphic. systems break down when applied outside their operating envelopes. and just so, the same sort of logic that would apply to beings like you or me does not apply to something so much more transcendent.

to help illustrate this, let me use a quote: "you shall have no other gods before me". one of the most common, and must damaging, intellectual sins man can commit is the inflation of some contingent concept to universality. it may be 'justice', 'equality', 'power', 'survival', or any other thing. the lionization of such concepts, taking them outside their natural contexts and upholding them as an ultimate object by which all matters may be weighed is a wellspring of maladaptive thinking and dangerous ideas.

not all concepts are created equal though, some may encapsulate more or less of being, of gods will, and hence slavish devotion to which may not lead to as much dysfunction as others, nor may the areas in which it goes outside its envelope be as obvious. but it *will* jump the tracks at some point, our ideas of being cannot encapsulate being, it is so much bigger than we are, incompleteness is the case

>>13080185


the bias of the categorical imperative you might call it, as it was the great conceit of enlightenment thinking, though of course such modes of thought predated them. kant was really not kidding when he said he has written nothing that a townhome housewife does not already know; because *that is how most humans tend to think*. ideas that take advantage of the tendencies and limitations inherent to your average human are the ones that will spread and become popular. the character of humans and human-like things on this sphere was shaped by forces they can barely control, towards ends they can barely foresee. many people, however dimly, sometimes perceive that there are creeping crisises that seems to swallow up civilizations after a long enough time. often times they take umbrage with 'the system', what is not so often is the realization that the system *is not designed by humans*

there are entities, systems or factors, beyond the individual being (and indeed, within the being as well, a man is not a monolith), with their own teleologies, tending towards certain ends, and these in turn serve to advance even greater and more transcendent teleologies (man gave legs to capital, and in turn it left him in the dust). the gods are real, and must atleast be acknowledged to prosper and avoid ruin or ill fortune. but the lesser gods must also not be confused for or idolized as the deity, the god head. as we have seen, this invites even greater ruin, though in this, it may be ones descendants that pay the ultimate price.

>>13080185
>the problem in discussions like these is that people on multiple sides of the issues conceive of higher entities in parochial, anthropomorphic terms

It is a shame that people are not trained to think in higher concepts, and therefore they try to associate everything in terms of their everyday life.

However, your writing style is utter pain to read, could it be possible to write more simply?

>>13080309


sorry, I was basically in a rush to condense as much as possible into the word limit.

but yes, 95% of 'religious' arguments are basically about strawmen, and people wonder why the logic seems to get so wonky, ignorant about what it is they are even trying to argue about.

>>13077191
>Calling something by a different name doesn't change what it is. At first there were gods, then christians creates the one god, who was conveniently named God.

Christians didnt create this one God. Christianity is a huge expansion of Judaism which is a very old religion with one God who is shit older than the Celtics. Judaism a long time ago went from Henotheism to Monotheism.

God of Judaism is the God of Christianity, and Islam,

>>13076591
The difference is that England got conquered 5 times.

Unless you're irish.

>>13080456
It is fine, I'm happy to hear your opinions even in a crude form, it is just extra painful for me, since I'm from Europe, and my first language is not English.

This goes maybe off topic, but this reminds me of when I was about 15-years old keyboard warrior arguing that religion and its believers are stupid, with a zeal.

Then I became to understand that only the people were stupid, and I had somehow thought that the consept must be stupid, because it's general followers are.

>>13080510


its no coincidence when your average /r/atheism atheist talks about religion, hes really thinking of protestant Christianity in specific. believers ignorant about what they believe in make easy work for a critic, but by that same token, it makes the criticism ultimately useless.

thus, it is also not a coincidence that those same sorts of atheists are just any sort of 'atheist' (however defined), but post-protestant atheists; advocating the essentially the same functional doctrines, just with any explicitly theological window dressing removed. that kind of memetic mutation has made it very adaptive for spreading itself. infact, post-Protestantism in its various flavors is the worlds most dominant ideology (its beneficence for the host however, is another question).

>>13080547
>its no coincidence when your average /r/atheism atheist talks about religion, hes really thinking of protestant Christianity in specific. believers ignorant about what they believe in make easy work for a critic, but by that same token, it makes the criticism ultimately useless.
I think that's called "strawmanning", when you reduce your opponent to "lol god exists becuz bible says so".

>>13080574


if martin luther never existed, chances are good there'd just be someone else who'd be the conduit for the same idea, simply because it is so seductive. 'you don't need any authority besides scripture!' and 'everyone has the same ability to interpret scripture!' (or even worse, every interpretation is 'equally' valid).

its a very neat and simple formulation, easy to conceive, and near perfectly populist. how many would not be attracted by that?

Does your native country have any interesting fairy myths?

Fairies over here are transcendent spirits of the dead who end up embedding themselves into an object or place which they will protect. It's a catch-all term for a protecting spirit, and may be called something different depending on what they govern.
If you sleep with a forest fairy, you might get great fortune on your next hunting trip. Or you might get lost.
If you marry a fairy, there's downsides, some take your vision while others go yandere and nice boat on you.

Fairies are pretty powerful here, and not like the weaklings of Gensokyo.

>>13077904
The God does exist, but not the way the christians would want us to believe. God is the strongest being, and since humans are the strongest beings, the strongest human is God.

You can very well prove the existence of fairies. Use the scientific method. Explain them with as much detail as you can, and as much as the other person can replicate your experience with them in a controlled environment, that's all the proof you need. When the results differ, you'll need an explanation for that, and so on until ultimately the question of what the existance of fairies does for the person is called upon, and that depends just as much on the person as it does on the fairies.

What was your first contact with fairies like? Did you instinctively know what they were, or was that discovered afterwards?

>>13082397
>The God does exist, but not the way the christians would want us to believe. God is the strongest being, and since humans are the strongest beings, the strongest human is God.

Nearly everyone means God as a supernatural being, juch check dictionary, if you want to use that word to target the strongest human, please use some other word, that is so very misleading.

Even if God didn't exist as a supernatural being, the word still targets to a complex philosophical concept that should be respected.

I'm not sure if I have ever met any fairies, but I have met a multitude of "supernatural" beings, in both sleep and awake, other people who do not believe in these things have witnessed them also with me.

Its no wonder that not many people experience them, since even if I'm sensitive, If I don't do any work that would attract them, chances are, I would never see them in any way.

It is not always so pleasing, there are countless of negative entities who would do anything to feed from your negative emotions, if they are not pleased, they will torture you. Not enough is talked about this danger, if you are going to meet nice entities, sooner or later the opposite will come, and it can be many times more horrifying than you ever imagined.

Discussing religion on /jp/!

Best fairy

>>13084374
Post the drill game where you drill through the earth using Luna's drill hair.

>>13084426
http://www27113u.sakura.ne.jp/drilluna/drilluna.html

>>13058412

That, or the fairies originate from a similar boarder world, aka; Celtic! Gensokyo, which is like Gensokyo, but metal.

>>13084468
I wish my left arm wasn't weaker than my right one.
Luna can't stop going right and die.

>>13076740

It's hard to call a god supernatural when said god can change the definition of nature. The closest analogy of something like that would be a programmer taking away or adding certain functions into a program, or comparing a human to a simulated function in a program; a function can't laugh, so to it, laughter would be considered supernatural, as that is something that would be considered astronomically unlikely to happen within the current program as none of the constraints required to simulate it exist.

My family's ancestral village had superstitions about fairies. For instance, if you were to wander into the bogs that surround it, fairies would either spirit you away or drown you in a pond. The older generations still believe this, though the younger generations don't.

Yes, we are very Irish...I still want to fuck a fairy though.

>>13082397
>God is the strongest being, and since humans are the strongest beings, the strongest human is God.

Fuckin Nietzians up in this thread.
Go to bed Tyr!

>>13084290
Nearly everyone is a weakling.
God is the strongest being. If you're a weakling, one who thinks strength is aquired from outside, of course they'll think God comes from outside, and it doesn't get more powerful than being outside nature (reality). It's the same definition, but for them, God is beyond nature because nature is beyond them. Nothing complex about it.

Would you say your supernatural experiences have been beneficial in the long run?

Every psychic vampire I've ever meet has been human, and they seem far more resiliant.

>>13084999
That 'stache, tho.

Mediator...

I don't know, aren't Celtic fae more similar to typical Youkai than anything else?

>>13085161
Its confusing when you talk about being outside nature (reality), you mean that other people believe in such fallacy that God is outside reality? For me it is a logical conclusion that nothing is outside reality, or "All that Is".

Strenght is indeed had from the inside, the outside merely manipulates the inside in such ways that it might manifest, but of course, it has always been there.

>and they seem far more resiliant.

What do you mean?

>Would you say your supernatural experiences have been beneficial in the long run?

Well if I were to die now, my whole life would have been still worth it because of those experiences, they were stronger and more beautiful than I could have ever imagined, even the happiest mundane life with family, health, riches and success would pale in comparison.

Can't still recommend this just to anybody, the dangers are very real, and for note, I have never used drugs or any psychedelics in my life.

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>>13076591
Who are you quoting?

>>13085318
Nope, still not witty.

>>13085294
Remilia was too slow with the fork. All of her food is sliding away!

man, I wanna


FUCK
a fairy

>>13094239
So do I.

>>13094239
I want to see you BEG

Fucking BEG

>>13094272
My chinpo!