/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>13033543
AT Visual Book:
http://www.udonentertainment.com/blog/udon/ar-tonelico-visual-book-in-stores-now/
Atelier Official Chronicle:
http://www.udonentertainment.com/blog/udon/books/atelier/

AT2 Flash Cosmosphere:
http://ar-ciel.org/uploads/miz/tks/2avs/
Offline Version:
http://www.mediafire.com/?hpr7840pbe1wf7d

Lossless albums:
Ar tonelico Music Collection Torrent: http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=622549
All tracks are encoded in FLAC format and include scans of covers and booklets. Torrent does not include:

Ar nosurge Drama CD
Ar nosurge Concert Side.Sora
Ciel nosurge Genometric Concert Vol.3
Ciel nosurge Original Soundtrack ~World and Reception Record~ Vol.2
Ciel no surge Drama CD
Ciel nosurge Prerelease Bonus CD
Kurt Hymneth
Ar Tonelico 3 Drama CD
Ar Tonelico 3 Missing Songs (Au GuMu, etc.)
Ar Tonelico 1 Drama CD
Voice de Toukosphere Supporter's Disc
Akiko Shikata's Rainbow Crayon Album
Katakiri Rekka's 12:12:24 Album
VAGRANCY Fluff Arrangement Mini Album

Mediafire Folder of Ar tonelico / Atelier goodies:
http://www.mediafire.com/?rddbnsio6dayi

Contents:
- AT1-3 OST, Hymmnos Concerts
- AT1-2 Drama CDs, Hymmnos Musicals
- Utau Oka ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~ (Album)
- AT3 Artbook
- Offline AT2 Flash Cosmospheres
- AT3 Yokkora fan disc
- original /jp/ stuff

Sorry if I'm missing something from the OP or screwed something else up...I usually don't make the thread but nobody else did for months.

So apparently Shallie wasn't announced until March last year. Are Atelier announcements always this late or is stuff changing in GUST land? Do we have any confirmation there is even a 'project A17' under development right now?

>>13033587

GUST is reclining.

>>13033587
So were Ayesha and Escha. It's normal.

So how is Ayesha Plus compared to the Arland trilogy? I loved Totori, really liked Meruru, but didn't like Rorona Plus enough to finish even one playthrough. Would I enjoy Ayesha Plus?

Also, I heard it has a bad framerate and some technical issues. How bad is it?

>>13034052
The mechanics in the Dusk trilogy are a bit simpler than Meruru, and time is much more lenient.
Getting endings is much more streamlined too.

My favorite of the series was Meruru, and while I didn't like it as much as Meruru, I thought it was still alot better than Rorona.

>>13034052
I just got it recently, enjoying it so far. Alchemy is much different, and the battle system now has positioning which adds bonus effects depending on where you character is and where the enemy is facing.
It does have major technical problems though. Load times for events can be fairly long, sometimes taking several seconds. There's a noticeable delay before opening the main menu and the notebook, which is fairly annoying when checking your objectives.
Framerate is really bad in general. It's especially horrid in the main city, since there's lots of npcs walking around. It even lags in small battles when using flashier skills. The only places I've gotten decent framerate are indoor areas in towns.
All in all, it's a good game, but a terrible port.

Is Shallie still worth picking up? I know the reception it got in Japan was rather mediocre but I'm not sure whether I should buy the LE or not.

Get hype! http://www.siliconera.com/2015/02/11/atelier-series-getting-massive-44-disc-soundtrack-set/

>>13037413

I'm genuinely scared to see what price it'll be.

>>13033543
The jags, oh the jags. Can't they somehow eliminate them on the 3DS?

Port the Arland series to PC instead please, thanks.

>>13037545
>>13037413

> 54000 yen according to Neowing and Amazon Japan
>£295, €396, $450 - without delivery charges on top

That's a pretty big hit to take. ;_;

>>13038307
But it's 44 disks and a limited exclusive

>>13038307
54000 JPY = 586.747 Australian Dollar
Fuck.

>>13036334
I looked at some gameplay footage and the visuals are absolutely stunning. Best in the Atelier series so far if you ask me. And the music is amazing as well, but that shouldn't come as a surprise.
I'm not a big fan of the new characters, though.

Also please bring back Kishida Mel.

>>13037623
Even the simplest anti-aliasing is still pretty costly. The 3DS does not natively support AA, and even if it did, I doubt you could use it for any game without getting lag.
Also, the 3DS does not have programmable pixel shaders, so I don't think you could implement your own AA even if you wanted.

I'm looking for a girl called Nei Yuuki. She just came back from another dimension, we are in love and I need to find her! Please help me

>>13045379
damn that looks nice

How well does Rorona DS have to sell for Totori to get a turn at the d's?

>>13047471
Honestly, probably not super well. Gust likes to milk their franchises as of late. I think it'll sell just fine anyway so there shouldn't be anything to worry about.

>>13042747

The visuals get better with every release so that doesn't surprise me and the music is generally top notch too. I've just heard very little positives about the actual gameplay as the JP release was full of bugs and the game itself was just a case of nothing actually happening. I'm not sure if it's worth getting the LE now (less than 25% stock left on the EU store) or just picking a standard copy up at a later date.

>>13037623
Is that really the ds game? the pic looked like it came from the mobile atelier game.

>>13048338
The power of the 3ds

What's going to be GUST's next big release?

>>13048899
They wrote a game for Vita and never released it; maybe they can port it to the PS4?

>>13048899
The press release in which they announce closure, of course.

A remake of Atelier Marie and Elie is also possible.

>>13048899

HD remake of the AT games, with revamped gameplay and cool new stuff.

A man dream, right?

>>13048899
Mana Khemia 3 haha;_;

>>13033587
Gust always announce new Atelier at Dengeki Festival in March. Tsuchiya should have announced his new project by now though, wonder what his team is up to. All we know is:
>Akira Tsuchiya (Gust) - The company doesn’t have the financial means to buy VR hardware, but would love to make a game with it where you can flirt with girls down the line. It’s also working on a game that will make people turn their heads, as it’s not thematically in their normal wheelhouse.

Of course you guys go and make a Gust thread when I stop looking for one on here.

I got a proper HD capture card the other day, and I've been grabbing screencaps from Ar noSurge. If you have any specific requests that I don't have to play through half the game again to get to (as in, can be found on the Extras menu), let me know.

>>13048899
Well I would prefer a proper finale to the Dusk series and a third and final part to the concerto series.

>>13050964
I wonder if they're working on their first PS4 game, and the delay is due to that?

Also, hoping for a third Surge Concerto game. Nay deserves happiness, damnit!

>>13050964
>The company doesn’t have the financial means to buy VR hardware
VR hardware is stuff like Oculus Rift right? What's so expensive about that?

>It’s also working on a game that will make people turn their heads, as it’s not thematically in their normal wheelhouse.
What's that supposed to hint at? Does that mean, they are going to make something completely unrelated to exa pico? I wonder what the sentence in Japanese was like.

>>13050982
Well then, could you give us a panty shot of Cass, Ion and Sarly?

>>13050995
>Nay deserves happiness, damnit!
What a terrible ending for her. She gets married to paperwork? Fuck you, Gust!

>>13051007
Probably means Project Morpheus, the devkits aren't cheap.

>>13051007
You can't rotate the character models in the viewer any direction other than left/right, and as far as I'm aware there aren't any cutscenes with that sort of thing, so best I can do is screencaps of the character sheets.

>>13051027
>You can't rotate the character models in the viewer any direction other than left/right,
Oh, wasn't that a feature that is unlocked together with the costume changing option?

>>13051032
It might be, but as I don't have a Japanese copy that's probably not gonna happen unless we get a localized Ciel noSurge release at some point.

>>13051034
We will probably get Ar nosurge Plus which allows you to access that without Ciel nosurge.

>>13051034
As far as I know, you can unlock it on the English version if you've bought all DLCs and use a japanese save that has it unlocked (there is one on GameFAQs)

>>13051032
Oh, and there's also the problem that Cass doesn't really wear panties

>>13051042
We cane hope, at least...

>>13051043
I'll give that a try at some point

>>13051051
>we cane hope
What is up with these bizzaro typos I keep making recently?

Well here's Sarly too

>>13051051
They did say they have no issues bringing it over. Vita may not be doing well in hardware sales, and Sony may have abandoned it. But third party can make some decent money from its niche audience as long as they keep their sales expectations in check.

Which thankfully, Koei Tecmo seems to be doing. Though, Ciel nosurge, no matter which version, isn't as lucky. They said it would be challenging to find an audience here for a game like that.

Things like the DLC packs, and needing to scan bar codes may scare off people etc.

>>13051127
Yeah, I can understand that.

Also, I thought Ciel Offline did away with the DLC thing by having it all included?

And have a Nelo while I'm here

Here's something I didn't notice until the capture card: Just how fucking off-model they got Ar tonelico in the cutscene version.

We already knew about the obvious half the Wings of Horus already being missing for some reason, but what the hell is that giant bowl connecting the Wings to the tower? And how they couldn't be bothered to think up the base of the tower so they made the city at exactly the same level as where the Sea of Death covers the tower

>>13051171
They did except for the voices packs. They couldn't put everything in the format of a vita game, so they included the voices for the first three chapters. The others you need to download, and they're pretty big.

>>13051127
>needing to scan bar codes may scare off people etc.
What's that about? Why did you need to do that?

>>13051239
I believe it was for materials and/or to make different types of sharls to rebuild Ion's memories. They were obviously trying to make this game as meta as possible, but in doing so, they limited the market for things like that.

Fuck it, I guess I'll just keep posting character sheets until someone yells at me to stop.

Renall Tatalca: Secretly the most well-endowed woman on the Soreil?

>insert that one Reisen joke here

Oddly, Kanon doesn't get a second page to show the under layers of her outfit.

While Nay doesn't need one, for obvious reasons

>>13051357
Such a shame.

Is it bad that I only liked her when Player 2 was in control of her?

Stupid sexy antagonist.

>>13051383
She gets one showing off her swimsuit, which is nice, but I'm sticking to just the normal outfits right now.

>>13051357
>to show the under layers of her outfit.
which means, there are non

>>13051389
...and I forgot the pic

>>13051390
Hah. But seriously, what's the deal with all those skirts, and that thing on the front of her top?

>>13051390
Kanon wanting to be lewd? I'm okay with that.

>>13051396
The dumbest outfit by far in Ar nosurge, or it just doesn't fit her.

Most Huggable Origin 2014

>>13051400
Glad I bought that DLC for the PS3 version, but man did I feel kinda bad at the end. Making a promise to Kanon to spend a day with her, but never getting a chance to keep it...

And I've run out of female character sheets that aren't just alternate outfits

>>13051409
I forgot, which one made the promise? Either one I would feel quite awful. With Delta, that's like with Nay, tease the poor thing that a great man is right in front of her, but oh no I'm taken ladies. Same can apply with Earthes, but even just as bad if not worse when you see the true end.

>>13051441
It was with Earthes. I mean with Delta at least it could happen at some point offscreen after the ending, but as it's Earthes it literally can never happen unless it happens in a sequel, but I doubt we'll ever see Kanon again because Origa

>>13051456
>Origa
Still can't get over it.

I mean, she can be replaced, I mean they always do. But damn will it not feel the same.

>>13051192
Animated cutscenes were made by contractors. It's an obvious mistake because you can clearly see both wings of Horus on world map.

>>13051456
>but I doubt we'll ever see Kanon again because Origa
She had different hymn singer in ciel nosurge. Even more, she literally died in ciel nosurge. Yet, we seen her in ar nosurge.

>>13051641
Did they ever explain that? How did she and Lion King come back?

>>13051641
Well that's one spoiler I really wasn't expecting. Maybe I should go read the Ciel summary at some point after all instead of waiting for a translation...

>>13051641
Well that's one spoiler I really wasn't expecting. Maybe I should go read the Ciel summary at some point after all instead of waiting for a translation...

Also whoops wrong picture

>>13051654
I think they totally forgot that they killed her in ciel. They even showed her existence before we actually met her.

>>13051734
I guess because Ar nosurge was technically released before the chapter she was killed off?

Terrible excuse and shows why the whole selling it in pieces was a bad idea from the start. Its like they thought not everyone was going to play Ciel, so they made it so it was understandable and playable without having to do so.

Either due to that or out of laziness/incompetence.

>>13051641
>>13051654
>>13051688
>>13051734
>>13051746
Maybe Ion just remembered wrong?

>>13051336
Something is wrong with Nelico's feet. I don't see enough room in her shoes.

>>13052195
I don't think Viruses need feet.

>>13052195
The one with Kanon on the bed looking sick with the birds at the window is adorable as fuck. A shame they never made more of them or ones for Ar nosurge in this style.

>>13052195
Source of this pic?

>>13052427
Ciel Nosurge had three Genometric Concert CDs issued, each rather skimpy on the number of songs included. However, Genometric Concert CD 2 and 3 included a DVD each. Both DVDs included the scenes from the game where selected songs were sung. The DVD with CD 2 also included two little skits, done in an imitation paper-cut-out style animation. That image was from one of these skits, as is this image.

>>13052540
>two little skits, done in an imitation paper-cut-out style animation
C-can you upload them?

>>13048239
I have a order on the (now sold out) US LE release, but I'm conflicted on whether to keep it or to cancel my order. What are my chances of selling it if I end up not wanting it?

I liked Ar nosurge much better before it was localized.

>>13054537
Congratulations on being a hipster douchebag

>>13054457
Depends, do you sell games that don't live up to your expectations? Do you even have any expectations for Shallie at all?

>>13054669
I'm honestly not expecting too much, from what people are saying about the JP release. I'm importing it outside the US, so after shipping and currency conversion (and possible custom duties), it's quite pricey. If I get it and it ends up being disappointing, it'd feel like a waste of money.

>>13054709
Then I'd say you probably shouldn't spend too much on it. The combat is fun, but the game drops the ball even harder than E&L when it comes to plot, and the characters aren't as interesting as either E&L or Ayesha.

And like someone said above, it felt like a waste of time. The Linca's and a little of Escha got the most of it, but both were pretty obvious to the player and neither Linca or anyone else's story seem finished. Like they reveal one big thing and still leave you hanging.

If this is truly the last entry, Gust pretty much wasted a lot of potential to rush out another entry.

>>13054742
If this is truly the last entry of the Dusk series*

>>13054742
Don't forget the lack of CG. Such a pitiful amount, its embarrassing. Not only was there a lack of closure, this felt so phoned in, it hurts.

Wasn't there a guy on here working on re-animating the Ra Ciel Fusor cutscene from Ciel?

Did that ever go anywhere?

>>13054979
>that top
jesus i didnt realise just how revealing that outfit was until now

>>13055043
Really? Everything from the bare shoulders, the collarbone, to most of the breasts are exposed.

>>13052622
Sorry, that's beyond my feeble skills.
But CDJapan still has the Ciel Nosurge Genometric Concert #2 in stock.

>>13052244

>>13054709

Where exactly are you importing it to? If you're in Europe the NISA Europe store is in charge of Shallie's EU LE this time around so the LEs are identical which may work out cheaper for you if you're in Europe.

>>13055635
Unfortunately not EU, I'm in Canada. Everything is more expensive here.

>>13055127
Where's that CG of Ion and Kanon in bed together when you need it?

>>13057195
This broke my heart. Seeing her in such shambles, overworking herself to death because she felt like she needed to or less she could never atone for her "sins", be worth while to the sharls, and be worthy of Lion King.

She already felt like shit in Ciel when she found out the truth that she was just some random street rat picked up on in the gutter. Its like nothing has changed in these 5000 years since Ciel, everyone still has some baggage left from the past.

>>13057250
Kanon looks so young in that CG. Is she supposed to be about the same age as Ion and her general attitude (and figure) just make her seem older? Or did they just go off-model?

I want to hug her and let her know everything will be OK

>>13059051

But anon, it won't be okay.

Had this been posted here?
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/763598/2cec59e71c/

>>13059051
Me too, anon. I want to protect that smile.

Oh yeah, something that might be useful for the copypasta next time around: a few days ago I caught vidya madness and copied down the terminal output in the intro to Ar noSurge, which are on pastebin:
Start of intro: http://pastebin.com/vLjXKQgB
End of intro: http://pastebin.com/hqAzv8L2

That also reminds me of something from those, what are TZ.H.W and R.H.W?

I know they're Hymmno Waves like Static or Dynamic Hymmno waves, but They were never mentioned in Ar tonelico as far as I can remember, and the explanation someone posted in /jrpgg/ over on /vg/ was all in moon so I couldn't read it

>>13063972
There are more types of the waves than D and H.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ar_tonelico#The_Universe_of_EXA_PICO
I think D in D.H.W and S in S.H.W stands for D and S waves, not for dynamic and static. And I have no idea what H stands for.

>>13065437
>And I have no idea what H stands for.
Hymmno
http://artonelico.wikia.com/wiki/Wave_Theory

>https://twitter.com/koeitecmoeurope/status/567738111204282369
>..and of course we will also have an announcement. We'll keep you updated with the event news and exclusives! Stay tuned! #KTfamily
Aww yeah, get ready for disappointment!

>>13065437
S.D.W = Static Detail Waves (Matter)
D.D.W = Dynamic Detail Waves (Energy e.g. Electricity)
S.H.W = Static Hymmno Waves (Life force/Cosmosphere)
D.H.W = Dynamic Hymmno Waves (Emotions/Feelings aka what makes song magic work)

>>13066015
>I think D in D.H.W and S in S.H.W stands for D and S waves, not for dynamic and static. And I have no idea what H stands for.

>>13066015
Please be Ciel and Ar+ bundled together!

Or at least just Ar+...

...it's going to be another fucking musou thing, isn't it?

I'm still holding out for Ciel Offline before I finally play my copy of Ar nosurge, I'm sure it will come I feel it in my bones.

>>13066486
I've given them 12 months from the release of Ar to announce it before I just give in and read a summary.

7 months left.

>>13066486
Sorry man, the likely hood at this point is very slim. They even said it themselves, they have no clue if it even has a market here with the type of game it is and the amount of work they're going to have to put into it.

>>13066486
It will be faster to just learn moonrunes.

Before I go to sleep, have a backgroundDefault.jpg I used to replace my windows login/lock screen to go with the Ar noSurge OS startup logo

Today's topic: Bad Ar tonelico/Surge Concerto t-shirt or bumper sticker ideas.

"Ionasal on the streets/Earthes in the sheets"
"My other ride runs on destroyed planets"

>>13037413
>AT compilation never
Sucks being the less famous series.

>>13051193
Actually, does Ciel nosurge break a record for most voiced game ever? I feel like it has at least a day worth of dialogue.

>>13051043
I'm just trying the Japanese save file thing now, but it kinda threw me off how it said I need all three DLCs, I remembered the Nay and Kanon packs, but totally forgot about the Shirotaka genometrics pack.

And holy shit the Earthes on that save is strong as fuck. Beat the shit outta the final boss without it getting any turns at all...

>>13069362
OK, I've gone and saved the Clear data for that save, so I should be able to get some new stuff on the Extras menu. Gotta sleep though, so I'll get to those later.

Will having the Clear and System data from that save let me see the dialogue for having a Ciel save? If so, I might need to go restart my current playthrough...

>>13068985
Its quite possible.

These thighs, all those things I would do to them.

>>13070497
The girl in the back is that manga exclusive character right?

>KT announcement was a musou game for PC
Glad I didn't get my hopes up.

>>13034052
Ayesha is my favorite Atelier, but your opinions of the Arland games are the opposite of mine (I loved Rorona, liked Meruru, and thought Totori was boring).

>>13045379
Nice. I hope this gets localized. Ciel nosurge Vita too.

>>13071483
>Ciel nosurge Vita
Hahahahaha ;_;

>>13071431
While I liked the original game and will get the remake or whatever they want to call it, it did seem wasteful to just announce the steam version with hype build.

>>13071483
>Ciel nosurge Vita too.
Anon, I...

>>13071513
Yeah, I know it'll never happen. It's nice to dream.

>>13071431

Wait, THAT was the announcement? I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed. TKE never fails to disappoint.

Why don't KT just run a kickstarter for Ciel?

>>13074101
Because that would involve a Japanese company acting like it isn't still the 1970's

>>13074101
If Ar's sales are anything to by it wouldn't reach the goal even if it did people would cry foul for a major publisher trying to pull that shit.

>>13075078
"Pull that shit" here being allowing the fans to get what they want (which they otherwise would never be able to get due to low expected profit) if they prove they're willing to pay enough.

But for some reason people have decided that successful companies simply aren't allowed to do that, even if everybody would benefit from it.

>>13075125
People are always going to get angsty when it's a major publisher asking for money. I'm sure some Japanese business men somewhere would see begging for money as harming the companies image.

>>13074101

They've already made a bunch of questionable decisions in recent times (No Ciel, no Ayesha dual audio etc.) so I doubt they're competent enough to run a Kickstarter successfully. They'd need to get the game actually localised on top of managing updates and stretch goals and other stuff.

Going by their track record all of that could prove to be a bit too much of a headache, especially for something that isn't going to sell very well outside of the initial KS funding, assuming it even gets funded in the first place. I'd love Ciel to be localised as much as anyone else in these threads but realistically I just can't see it happening.

>>13075146
>angsty
You might want to look up the meaning of that word.

>>13074101
Do you have any idea how much content Ciel has or how few people would buy it?

A concerto has three parts, r-right?

>>13076075
Yes. Guess how many parts Nosurge had.

>>13075308
Not localizing Ciel is hardly a questionable decision. I agree that a kickstarter wouldn't work (though I'd love to try) but KT made the logical choice by not localizing the game via traditional methods. The best we could hope for is a text-only localization that keeps the Japanese audio and only translates what is absolutely necessary

>>13076278

The games are already niche without alienating potential customers from having a lack of rather important prequel provided. By releasing Ar no Surge without Ciel no Surge backing it up they shot themselves in the foot a little. I know that Ciel no Surge wouldn't give record breaking numbers but to me it just seems silly releasing one without the other.

>>13080403
To be honest, I'm surprised they even bothered translating the PS3 version, and not just skip over it for the Vita Plus version. PS3 game sales for niche titles have been pretty low, like, a lot lower than usual. While for Vita, the audience is pretty much for niche games only at this point, they will buy anything at least in expected sales numbers.

>>13080403
Releasing Ar was already a mistake. Releasing Ciel would just be making more mistakes.

>>13080435
Vita is ded in the West. If you like weeb games, you should've started learning Japanese already, the PSP should've taught you that lesson.

>>13080435

I'd say it's probably due to PS3 having a long and established line of games with fans backing them up. I know that I have a PS3 for the many JRPGs on the console and it's one of the reasons why I still regularly use the console to this day. This means that they can release the 'inferior' console version and still make decent sales because many of us already have that console in the first place and have no need for a Vita.

I know handhelds reign supreme in Japan but is the Vita even remotely popular in the west? I honestly don't know but I've seen zero discussion or publicity for it compared to the DS.

.>>13080531

Why was Ar a mistake?

>>13080549
>>13080531
It is dead, for Sony and hardware sales. But the game sales actually do well for third party small publishers. That is what I'm talking about. That is the reason anyone bothers localizing games here for the Vita.

>>13080549
>Why was Ar a mistake?
Didn't it sell really poorly? Forgive me if I'm misremembering. Also without Ciel it's missing quite a bit of features/content (and releasing Ciel would be a mistake of course).

>>13080572
Yes it sold poorly, like most PS3 niche games these days. Even games like Tales of Xillia 2 didn't do that well.

>>13080564
>third party small publishers
Just say indie games and be done with it. Vita is just a indie/weeb game console at this point.

>>13080582
XSEED, NISA, Aksys, Atlus and the rest do make profit. And yeah, weeb games, that is what I'm talking about, that was the whole point in me saying they should have just skipped the PS3 version and do the Vita version. They could make profit off that.

Now that I think about it, the whole EXA_PICO universe got the shaft in the West.

We got all three AT games sure, but with poor localization, and we never got any of the supplemental material, which is like 50% of the story. Then we don't get Ciel, but we do get Ar without any of the sync content and without 50% of the story.

Meanwhile Atelier is getting remakes and localizations up the ass ;_;

>>13080588
Those companies publish mainstream weeb games like Persona and Disgaea. Really niche stuff won't turn a profit.

>>13080604
But they do, why would lie and keep doing them? In fact its because of that companies like XSEED have become bigger. NISA is actually turning more profit than Nippon Ichi these days on account of all their new IPs not selling well.

>>13080611
What are you talking about? XSEED etc do make a profit, but they only publish mainstream stuff. If they were to publish the real weeb stuff, they wouldn't turn a profit. Example, how many VNs have those companies localized? I can probably count them on one hand.

>>13080624
NISA did one, but that's MangaGamer and JAST USA territory. And how is games like Deception IV not true weeb and mainstream? That is niche of niche games.

Atelier is still niche of niche and KT was happy to announce that Escha & Logy managed to be the highest selling localized entry in the series.

>>13080637
Don't forget Aksys and XSEED did the Blood Corpse games, which the first game did very well, though the sequel didn't do as well because it shifted gameplay and story.

>>13080637
>>13080640
I guess it's hard to prove my point. If you go to a Western weeb site and a search turns up a lot of hits, then it's "mainstream" weeb.

For example, chance of anyone localizing the recent Yuuki Yuuna game? Zero
Chance of getting the Madoka games? Zero

>>13080435
The PS3 version was already nearing the end of its localization process before Ar+ was announced. They only found out about its existence when everyone else did.

>>13080700
>They only found out about its existence when everyone else did.
KT own Gust. There's no way they didn't know about Ar being developed.

>>13080807
Ar+
fix

>>13080807
You'd be surprised about how little inter-studio communication happens in bigger game companies. Hell, I work at one of the ones that's much closer knit and half the fucking time we have to find out ourselves when they change or add something in the next build the other studio gives us.

>>13080807
doesn't change the fact that the ps3 version was about to be released when it was announced

>>13080823
Love that the KT Community Manager was wearing an Ar nosurge shirt for the DOA stream. I want that shirt.

Anon from >>13054457 here.

Just wanted to say that I canceled my preorder on the NIS America site, so there's a unit available right now.

So I tried to get into the atelier series by playing Totori on my vita and I thought it was legit boring as all crap and dropped it 2 hours in.

I talked to some friends and they recommended me to give it another shot on Atelier Lilie. What do you guys think?

I heard good things about atelier lilie but idk if it's a good entry point, but it's probably the only title that interested me in particular out of the whole series

>>13084702
Did you play until after they got their licenses in Arland? The game starts out kind of boring, but once you've got your adventurer's license it becomes fun and grows more fun over time.

>>13084702
What games do you ordinarily play?

What about Lilie interests you?

>>13084702
Mana Khemia is the best atelier in terms of gameplay so I recommend to start from this. Pre-Iris ateliers including Lilie is a shit and I don't recommend them.

>>13085809
Mana Khemia has the best combat, to be sure. But for the Atelier series, you have to include the alchemy as gameplay, and there things aren't so clear.

>>13059803
Nice, now I only need the Ayesha artbook...

Who is Shun? Some song magic creature? Virus? Genom?

Play-Asia has just prolonged the big sale for 2 more days, and some *nosurge products are included.
Ciel Offline Agent Pack didn't get any discounts though.

Arland trilogy is on sale on psn for vita's 3rd birthday

>>13085809
Lilie is considered a 神ゲー by many, and a lot of fans have it as their favorite atelier.

It was back when Gust actually cared in putting in effort in making romance stories in which Lilie is really strong in.

The others I agree with though.

>>13093242
not only that ciel nosurge offline agent pack wasn't included in their sale, they want $150 for it. How is that even a reasonable price?

>>13097473
Indeed. They probably wanted to put -50% on it but forgot to "discount" it after having inflated the normal price.
If you're interested specifically in that version, it goes for ~$90 in other shops (Nippon-Yasan for example).

>>13096128
>It was back when Gust actually cared in putting in effort in making romance stories in which Lilie is really strong in.
Not him, but that make me interested. Thanks.

Don't you die on me, thread!

So Ar noSurge battle song music, which is the best, and which is the worst? And I don't mean stats, I mean in the animation and theming and all that shit.

My opinion:
Best: Tsunderain
Worst: I Have No Royalty Income

Man why is there barely any Ar nosurge art around the net

I need some good Ion images for an avatar. send help

>>13101530

Best: Ar Ciel sphere
Worst: Neuron killer Z

>>13101536

I'm using pic related.

Can anyone seed the Ar Tonelico 1 torrent in the OP pastebin?

External HD crashed and I feel like a replay.

>>13101530
Best: 7th Apocalypse
Worst: Chupi

>>13101530
I like them all, but if I had to choose:
best: Bridal Launch
worst: I Have No Royalty Income

I'm about to start the Ar Tonelico trilogy, what am I in for?

>>13104699
Revytails

Apologies for the long post, just got into writing about it.

>>13104699
First one is kind of your standard JRPG with dating game elements. You can get endings with 3 girls, with the first two endings chosen by selecting to go with them at the end of the first chapter, and choosing the end the game at the end of the 2nd. Choosing the other choice at the end of the second chapter lets you play the 3rd, and get the end with the 3rd reyvateil. That's just in case you care what girl's ending you get. You can complete the cosmospheres and see everything in them in this one.

2nd game has a more unique battle system, which is more action based. The endings depend on which of the 3 girls' cosmospheres you decide to go past level 5 in, with another one if you stay at 5 or below. It warns you before you do it. There is a branching path, but which does shut you out of one of the main 2 girls' endings if you don't choose them. But they do a good job letting you get to know the girl you don't pick during part of it, so it's worth playing either path. Plus once the 3rd girl shows up, a lot of people go for her, especially if they played the first game.

Can't say anything on the 3rd, except there seems to be a sense of letdown after the first two.

>>13104887
>Can't say anything on the 3rd, except there seems to be a sense of letdown after the first two.

Still good, just not as good.
I still well up a bit when Ec Tisia plays at the end

>>13104887

My major complaint with the third one was the battle system, which was just rubbish.

are there any logos/pngs people have made for Ar nosurge? Like that anon who made those install points for AT

>>13105740
I didn't make these, some other talented anon from the thread before last did

>>13105862
Transparent version

>>13105867
and the totally bitchin' animated one

You know what'd be really cool? A NASA-style Mission Patch for the Soreil

>>13104887
From my POV, AT3 is a pretty good game with bad battle system (it's a poor's man Tales of... combat system) and too much unnecessary lewdness. Story is confusing and outright stupid at the beginning, but gets better. Cosmospheres , talk topics and synthesis is your usual AT stuff.

I should mention that I expected really bad game. Like Hyperdimension Neptunia kind of bad. Fortunately, my worries were unsubstantiated.

>>13106156
It did kinda have the two worst Reyvateils in the series; Angsty Mc"I could only be more stereotypical tsundere if I had red hair" and Little Miss Brain Damage, and the worst protagonist by virtue of being so Generic Shonen Protagonist it hurts.

But it did have the best Origin and second-to-best Reyvateil so that kinda makes up for that

>>13106182
I think it didn't help coming from AT2 either. The characters were worked far better.

>>13106182
Are you talking about AT2?

>>13100953
Here's what, from a hardcore atelier fan

The playstation 1 ateliers are glorious, and there's the following trilogy that gust had put much effort into them.

As follows
Marie
Elie
Lilie
All of them are 10/10 atelier games in my opinion, and I personally have Lilie as my favorite.

Marie and Lilie are really strong in romance stories, and Elie is more friendship centered, but Lilie is definitely my favorite.

>>13106454
How's the level of Japanese in those games?
It looks like Marie and Elie, at least, should be easy to get hold of.

>>13105740

>>13033543
I would buy Rorona on 3DS if the 3DS was region free like the vita.

>>13108471
Dude with all due respect, could you stop shoving that picture literally everywhere you go?

And you already said that before too

>>13106454
How is Judie and Violet? I'm thinking of playing them on PSP

Are people really going to buy Rorona 3DS? I swear when I saw the images I thought it was a rorona mobile game.

now it striked me when i played AT2 at Mir Cosmosphere about Frelia talking about Exa_pieco (that's what it said) and when i search on the internet where the main universe of Surge Concerto also revolves on Exa_Pico would that mean that the Universe that Ar Tonelico uses are Exa_Pico and there are 2 known solar system (maybe more) namely Sol Ciel and Ar Ciel

Damn looks like a cool history and science for me

>>13114299
Have you not played Ar nosurge yet?

>>13102682
Get it from the giant PS2 Undub Project torrent if you haven't got it from elsewhere already. This is the problem with separate torrents - they tend to die.

Artonelico3 PV1 for PS3.mp4 DDL by Sony:
http://poseidon.dl.playstation.net/cdn/JP0700/NPJB90225_00/FREE_CONTENTRF5qRg1WDaudpVnYSxvo/Artonelico3%20PV1%20for%20PS3.mp4?product=008C&country=jp
244MB, 1080p
Not mine, found it in the list of pkg downloads for PS3 OFW.

>>13110002
You could just filter images you don't like.

>>13101530
best:TOKIKAGURA_TENTOUKI:\
worst:chunpi (not fond of bird fetishes just how i hate pippens & cloche)

>>13123351
I don't know why, I too find that summon animation boring, yet I like the Chunpi obsession from Kanon endearing.

>>13106237
>no Mir
;_;

Does anyone know of any good Mir dakimakura covers? I know there is an official towel, but I can't seem to find any daki covers, official or no.

>>13105061
>tfw you will never see the rebirth of a planet in person

>>13104699
A lot of time spent reading the other official materials and listening to the songs.

>>13130703
She does have a official one, Cocona too.
http://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1011577670
Good luck finding one.

>>13130834
>売り切れ
Thanks anyway, anon.

Is AT 2 the best AT game of them all /gust/ bros? i wanna know why?

>>13131852
All of the EXA_PICO games are bretty good, but AT2 is often a favorite because:

Good combat system (still easy though).
Well-written story and characters.
METAFALICA.
Mir true end

>>13131852
Because it does everything right.

>>13131852

>>13132539

I want to dive into Mir!

>>13132597

So, with the relocalization patch out in open beta, how do I go about applying it? I heard it's made for the undub.

>>13134517
Download undub in OP, check if it has the same hash as the one the patch expect, apply xdelta, play with the new iso.

>>13088454
Why can't gust just run with the Mana Khemia combat system for all subsequent atelier games?

Man, I miss Mana Khemia.

>>13138939
Too much of a great thing, so a bit of change never hurts. Too much change does hurt though.

Who's the artist for the Ciel Nosurge and Ar Nosurge? Google isn't giving any answers.

>>13139753
ntny
https://twitter.com/nd_ntny

>>13139764
Thanks man.

>>13054537
I can't believe you'd be so selfish as to not want people to experience something like AnS just because they don't speak Japanese.

Ar nosurge was a really long game full of dialog. I'm surprised they even localized and dubbed it at all.

>>13140723
IIRC they did omit some content, like the full ending and some item descriptions.

>>13140779
>like the full ending and some item descriptions.
wut

>>13140527
Not that anon, but you would be pretty selfish to expect a company to spend hundreds of millions localizing a game for the 100 (or 1000) or so fans that would be interested in it who can't speak Japanese.

I wouldn't be surprised of half the anons here know enough Jap to get through AnS with a good understanding of what's going on.

>>13140798
>AnS cost hundreds of millions to localize

No.

>Only 100 or 1000 people bought it

No.

>>13140798
Hundreds of millions? Even in yen that's a bit much.

>>13140791
The full ending requires a synced 100% complete CnS save with married Ion. No sync for the localized AnS, so you do the math.

Don't quote me on that though.

>>13140798
They don't spend hundreds of millions in localizing, please stop exaggerating.

>>13140806
I'm going to assume the full ending is like 10 extra text boxes of dialogue

>>13140805
>>13140807
I wouldn't be surprised if you wanted a good quality translation of all the text, and dubs as well (including Ciel), but okay, overestimated a bit.

Either way, I can't see AnS+CnS localization being a huge money maker.

>>13140823
Dubs these days are 10% and are done by hacks who get dirt pay, you may think they suck because of the low pay? When in fact most just suck, especially the ones NISA hire. Gotta love how they went cheap and got complete nobodies for DR.

And anyways, they already said AnS+ is a strong possibility since the translations are mostly done with the PS3 version already localized and that CNS Offline is probably not gonna happen because they don't think they can find a market for it here.

>>13140823
Anon. Hundreds of millions. That is at least 200 MILLION. The budget for the most expensive video game of all time, Destiny, is only 500 million. And you're telling me it costs 200 million to localize and dub a VN and a JRPG?

>>13140834
DR dub was great though.

>>13140842
I disagree.

>>13140840
And this too.

>>13140840
If it was yen, then you'd be off by two orders of magnitude.

2 mil doesn't sound too off given the amount of text in both games combined. You do know how much text the two games have, right?

Also AT localizations have traditionally been shit (bug and performance wise), so I would appreciate them throwing in an extra mil for a competent company to clean up GUST's bad code.

>>13140856
>2 mil doesn't sound too off
He said HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS. Not just millions. And localization is done by KT in Murika and/or Europe, so there's no sense in estimating localization cost in yen

>>13140877
Actually, for AnS and Atelier games they have been outsourcing it to Actill, who are ex-NISA guys.

>>13140798

>>13140877
>>13140856
>If it was yen, then you'd be off by two orders of magnitude.
Hundreds of millions of yen is millions of USD, anon. Two orders of magnitude == 100. Divide by 100.

>>13140897
The question is why he is estimating in yen for a localization done in the west?

>>13140798
this is one of the few situations where crowdfunding could have been useful since there's a established and dedicated fanbase that has been buying their games and merchandise for many years.

>>13140917
>People encouraging others to get into scams like Kickstarter for localizing games that get localized anyway without such scams

>>13140902
Because Koei is paying for the localization? Because Koei does their own accounting of profits in yen? I'm not even sure how localization deals work.

>>13140924
KT Murika pays for the localization. If KT Japan paid for it there'd be no reason for KT Murika to even exist.

>>13036334
Can anyone tell me what the reviews of shallie were like?

>>13142289
Seems like a lot of people are saying it's bland.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%AC%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88-%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A3%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%81%AE%E3%82%A2%E3%83%88%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A8-~%E9%BB%84%E6%98%8F%E3%81%AE%E6%B5%B7%E3%81%AE%E9%8C%AC%E9%87%91%E8%A1%93%E5%A3%AB~-%E9%80%9A%E5%B8%B8%E7%89%88/dp/B00J88WC7Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425623575&sr=8-1&keywords=atelier+shallie

>>13142298
Thanks, anon.

>>13131852
Best songs.
Best plot.
Best gameplay.
Longest.
Personally I think AT1 the best because it's not a mess like AT2 and AT3, but I can see why most people consider AT2 as the best game in the series.
>>13140798
KT the one who spending resourses on it, not GUST. And I think they know what they doing.

>>13140806

Is this true?

I don't really want to replay the whole of Ciel a third time, is there anywhere I can see this full ending to Ar nosurge online?

>>13143733
>AT1 the best because it's not a mess
Including Eoria end?

AT1: Best heroine
AT2: Best loli sidekick
AT3: Best fap material

>>13143902
>AT1: Best heroine
Misha?

>>13143961
maybe that stupid Aurica

or if we are talking about misha
The loli one or the adult one?

>>13144233

>>13143961
>>13144233
Alternatively, best NTR.

>>13144297
I feel sorry for shurelia though. She can't change her dependent personality, so she'll always be lonely or have her lover/father figure die on her for eternity.

I wish we could get a Cocona Cosmosphere.

http://a.pomf.se/vmdpzm.mp3

>>13033553
>Ar nosurge Concert Side.Sora

It's not lossless, but here's my rip of said CD

https://mega.co.nz/#!I0J30b4T!icoCrBIiGT8lnwesMTS8m5TAaYSDPLDNDu4YlHLRjzw

And while I'm on the topic,

Once I'll find a tracklist for this, I'll also upload it.

>>13148479

Here's the correct image

Okay I noticed something strange, could you guys please tell me your opinion about this?

Which one is the correct name for track number 5?

謳無き丘 -Harmonics Pre=Ciel-

>>13148596

or

謳無き丘へ-Harmonics Pre=Ciel-

?

I can't into moon so I dond't really understand the difference

>>13148596
>>13148600
Pretty sure it's the latter.

>>13148479

>It's not lossless, but here's my rip of said CD

Oh god, thank you, anon!

>>13145327
Who is that?

>>13148792
Rorona / Illya

>>13148596
Looks like a typo missing the へ

Remember Singing Hills? 謳う丘
無 means negation, へ means toward, so 謳無き丘へ is To/toward the songless hills

>>13148479
>>13148596
The song names look like stuff already on the OST and the other genometrics concert CDs (AKA and AO). Are these remixes or is this more of a sampler CD?

>>13149133
http://vgmdb.net/album/43045

Sampler CD.

>>13149175
alright thanks

Ar nosurge Japanese manual straight out of
zeus.dl.playstation.net/cdn/JP0103/NPJB00573_00/tkVIDPBpCajAVcVgnrPSsXUVpZlzGbEozDjyLRQwuFqXEgkNJePilzWtmSgqPevvYoaxePJhpLWjRfNMCQaJSyREkxCcKEDAtLTUk.pkg

7MB .7z with pic related DDS images inside (open with XnView, IrfanView or any other decent image viewer):
http://www.mediafire.com/download/rr94y7qgdi0rbsp/NPJB00573_MANUAL.7z

Note that .pkg in >>12521208 should have English version of this manual inside, but I'll leave downloading that 12GB file to someone else (use PkgView to extract images out of it).

Seriously considering picking up the CIel nosurge Agent Pack just to complete my little collection. Dat price tag after shipping though.

Being a collector can be painful at times.

Would I be able to get on the Japanese PS store to download the voice packs with just 1 memory card, switch back to NA account, and play it with the voices available?

>>13149812
Thank you for your contribution to the Gust thread, anon.

>>13151589
Being a collector in this new digital age is hell. I don't know the answer to your question though sadly. I always hear you need two memory cards, one in US region and the other for Japanese, but I don't even have a Vita so my knowledge of such things is naturally limited. Perhaps someone here will know, or maybe on JRPGGEN they will?

You can actually go on dates with Nelico.

I didn't think that they'd actually let you do that. I feel a bit bad for Ion, but hopefully she'll understand.

Also, I haven't progressed the story in a week but I've been getting a lot of special conversations (Nelico visiting etc). I feel like I must have missed some things from not spending enough time outside the dream world. Starting chapter 10 soon so I've been just making things and going on dates so that I'm ready for marriage.

I should make one of each plugin for Ar, right?

>>13151589
As the other anon said, as far as I'm aware you would need a separate memory card for having a different region account, so I don't think you will be able to get Japanese downloads working and use your NA account.

I only have a JP account though, so not actually tried myself.

>>13151880
well dont you know you can marry Nelico but she will turn you down because "Todaimori" would feel lonely and sad.

For the people asking about the mediocre Shallie reviews, it's mostly story related. People were disappointed in the story because it doesn't tie up the Dusk series at all and nothing really important ever happens - and it's probably the last Dusk game so it means the setting was just wasted.

There's not really a way to explain the lukewarm reception without spoilers, sorry.

>>13151880
>You can go on dates Nelico in Ciel
>You can promise to go on a date with Kanoyeel in Ar, but you never get a chance to keep your promise

Sadness, sadness everywhere.

>>13151880
She looks like an IndianXJapanese crossbreed.

>>13149133

This >>13148600 was released shortly before Ar nosurge came out as pre-release

This >>13148596 is the new "best of" collection, where fans had the chance to vote which songs should be included.

There's no "new content" on the disc with the exception being track number 6, which is a new "original" version of the song.

I'm starting the upload of my own rip in this moment.

>>13152362

>I'm starting the upload of my own rip in this moment.

Thank you, anon.

>Ciel nosurge offline
Why does my time keep getting desynced? I hit Yes when it asks me if I want to advance time since my last save; isn't that correct? Did I miss something during the tutorial?

It was 45 minutes off last night, now it's almost 4 hours off...

Here you go guys, have fun with it!

https://mega.co.nz/#!cgwT2IzB!55wANLPbzRxOkCBVY_fA2AOKDOxmwgfkNCcr8iYVJAA

>>13152480

Oh and if someone of you finds a better cover picture please let me know,

I just used my phone's camera to take this photo

pic not related.

>>13033543
>3DS
Fucking fuck
I don't want to have to buy another console.

Why can't these people keep it all to one platform (PSN), or better yet, put it on steam?

>>13152510
No matter how big a Gust fan you are, why would you want to play yet another remake of Rorona?

>>13152514
I'm just worried that this is a signal of more such things to come.

If it just ends with Rorona / Arland I guess I won't be as mad.

>>13152510
3DS, and 3DS XL (the one I have) and they recently remade a new one, a 3DSi. Which is not compatible with 3DS.

>>13152480

Thanks!

>>13152447

I had the same problem, I'm not sure what exactly causes it.

I just realized I missed the Gust 20th anniversary sale on Japanese PSN, godammit.

>>13152510
But they've done this sort of thing before.
Besides the three games for the DS, there was at least on game on the Wonderswan.

>>13152447
Ciel time is frozen when you're diving.

>>13152510
>Why can't these people keep it all to one platform (PSN), or better yet, put it on steam?
This ver is just a sort of attractor to Nintendo fans who have not played the other Ateliers to get them interested and incite them to come on over to PlayStation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQvTvwMuVEg
Someone on youtube is attempting to subtitle a playthrough of ciel.

>>Ultimately though I really loved this story and since KT has had over 3 years to handle an official localization without taking action I decided to go ahead with this LP video collection. Unfortunately since I'm currently working this solo it looks like the whole thing will take another year to complete so maybe KT will change their mind and announce a localization before I finish. :)

Goodluck to him because I would love more than anything to see this all the way through.

>>13144233
I can't seem to get the event that enables her to swap freely between her loli/adult form. I'm in Aurica's route, first playthrough, FYI.

Is there an audio webm for the bath song?

>>13153363
Good luck to him; he'll need it.

>>13153364
You can return to where Misha became an adult to swap back and forth.

>>13153371

Are you talking about 真夜中の内緒話?

>>13153296
I gathered that after some research. Apparently, if I exit without saving in the nest, time will have proceeded as normal.

I only got the game yesterday and entered the dream once so I'm going to ignore my initial gut feeling that that isn't a solution.

going to play for another week so I can articulate my concerns a little better; I really hope this game is realtime...

>>13153397
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qDhz1zyZ14

>>13153363
That's the same guy that did the Ciel summary. God speed.

>>13153418
Fucking nostalgia.

>>13153389

you have to be in the misha route to get access to that location.

>>13153474
According to gamefaqs you can do it in either route. Without spoiling much, it's behind the door in Tenba that Misha didn't want to go into.

>>13153418
I have the gif, now someone make the webm.

>>13153542
>yfw Aurica will die before Lyner and Misha/Sheurelia will outlive him.

>>13153363
Someone will most definitely try to insert that translation back into the game if Ciel Offline gets a PS3 port and/or Vita is hacked to run unsigned code natively.
Hopefully /jp/ will live long enough to see that happen, although amount of /a/ in (these) threads nowadays is making me skeptical.

>>13153595
It's very unlikely but some publishers like Xseed have bought fan translations in the past and used them in proper releases.

>>13153595
>PS3 port
Ciel relies heavily on the touch screen, so they'll have to rewrite the input engine from scratch. It's really made for the Vita, so it doesn't feel as well on a console. Also, at this point it's more likely to get a PS4 port; Are there any PS3 games still being made?

>Vita hacked
I wish. Let me play JP and NA games without reformatting every time please.

>amount of /a/ in (these) threads nowadays is making me skeptical.
/a/ here

>>13153643
I'm pretty sure GUST will be able to find themselves a publisher in the West, the problem is that there is no decision to localize Ciel and let's get real here.

>>13153656
At this point only the PS3 is hacked to the point of allowing mods and fan-TL in particular, so unless Vita gets a native hack we're limited to LPs, and given TK's stance on modding (DOA5), there's a possibility that even LPs won't be available due to C&D. I'm downloading them at the moment, BTW.
As for PS3 games in development,
http://www.joystiq.com/2015/01/10/arland-atelier-trilogy-hits-european-ps3s-in-march/ (for the next thread) and
http://en.riotpixels.com/games/sony-playstation-3/ (in general)
Also, contrary to popular belief, /a/ is there >>>/a/

>>13153548
>Aurica will die before Lyner
If she leaves Ar tonelico's broadcast range she might not

>>13153724
They have a publisher, the issue is that the game cannot be localized cheaply enough to make the 5,000 copies sold worth it.

The Arland trilogy is just NISA putting the old games they published onto one disc. That has nothing to do with Gust, it doesn't even have anything to do with KT.

>>13153771
She already lost a good chunk of her life though.

>>13153643
True, or the popularity of a fan translation has just kicked them into just doing their own official translation. See Dangan Ronpa for an example.

>>13153772
Given Ar's sales I'm not even sure they'd get 5k on Ciel. Ar is far more marketable to the western audience and only got like 10k in the US

>>13154014

luckily there's the united cunts and ausfailia for them to sell to.

unless it gets an AO rating for implied sexual violence.

I have to say, I'm enjoying my time with Shallie, but man is it really easy, and I mean easier than the other two titles. The game is similar to Xenoblade in this regard to giving out bonuses like candy; I got to level 40 at around chapter 5 without trying. The first major boss went down in less than 2 minutes.

>>13154014
Well the Vita sales would probably be better, the fanbase go at most niche games whether due to starvation for game or just word of mouth does its work, it seems the small publishers are pleased with sales for their titles on it.

>>13153333
i can confirm this as a nintendo fan who has not played the other ateliers

>>13153542
http://ssyoutube.com/watch?v=4qDhz1zyZ14
Download links > More > WebM

>>13156720
I think he want webm with this gif and bath music.

>>13154264
I find it hard to believe there is anyone who owns a Vita who doesn't own a PS3

>>13157133
Its not about owning, people buy the vita versions of games and they usually offset the costs of localizing and more because they're also usually digital only or because, again, people are desperate for games.

>>13157164
>again, people are desperate for games.
If they have a PS3 and a Vita then they can sate their desperation for games with a PS3 game for the time being

>>13157181
You would think right? But the sales are showing they aren't as interested. Persona 5 will probably outsell the PS4 version, but I have no doubts that something like Ar nosurge, well +, would do better on Vita than the PS3 version did.

But to be fair, there was hardly any word of mouth unlike Atelier games which strangely enough many didn't play on PS3 even though they have/had one.

>>13157191
I'm thinking probably 10k is considered a lot for Vita while 10k for PS3 is considered shit

>>13153542
I tried, anon. The gif seemed to be off-sync, though, and I don't really know how to fix that.

http://a.pomf.se/rgvakk.webm

>>13157133
Doubt no longer, for I am such a person. I might pick up a PS3 sometime in the future though.

>>13157223
I think it has to do with paying royalties to the main hardware company. That is where the big money comes in for Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft. From what I understand Vita is not only dirt cheap when it comes to develop for it, IE the dev kit.

And Sony knowing its not going to have much of a future outside of niche sales, made it more comfortable for companies when owing them those royalties. I think PS3 is just more riskier and the audience is still healthy on the handheld when it comes to these games.

>>13153542
Tried.
http://a.pomf.se/tnuhwg.webm

Man Nay got screwed over hard in Renall's Genometrics.

>>13157930
It was horrible seeing her go through that. And you don't even help her in the end and she disappears. You just assume for the best since you cleared it.

>>13158737
Frankly I'm surprised that Nay didn't try and get back at Ion after the whole body-swapping thing.

>>13158904
Well she tried, but then she had second thoughts because she felt bad at how incapable of a person she was and that she clearly had no fault in her predicament and she was clearly not enjoying the good life of being her.

She said she couldn't completely forgive her, but that, that wouldn't get get in the way of wanting to be friends. Lastly she kinda got used to being in her new body and just beingNay. Though, that didn't last long since Nero made Ion give her the empress vocals anyway.

tl;dr Nay will always be the best sister type person, but always gets screwed in the end. More so than anyone else. Also is married to paperwork.