/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>12963628
I get the impression NEET culture is big in other places as well, but NEETs in other countries are written off as drug addicts, dangerous people or thugs, and have a negative contribution to society, while Japanese NEETs (and those similar to them) very much keep to themselves and don't cause problems for others.

>>12963658
So its more of a image thing due to different cultures?

Are the homeless drunks the ultimate otaku?

>>12963667
It seems that way. At least in the country I live in, most unemployed people are more of a blight on society rather than just being there. You could even argue people who work in an office have about as much as societal benefit as a non-dangerous NEET.

>>12963680
maybe in japan, in the west most of them are drug addicts who fucked up.

>>12963628
>why is neet culture so big in japan?
Can you define neet culture? Japan's unemploment rate is moderately low. There's not actually a ton of neets there.

>>12963658
In America, if you're jobless and just live off the government dole you're typically seen as a nigger who gon let Obama pay all mah bills, or as a white trash meth addict welfare queen. There is, however a growing trend of people in their late 20s and early 30s moving back in with their parents, with or without a job, and it's that group that's probably closest to Japanese NEETs

>>12963628
Pretty sure even in Japan, NEETs aren't seen in a positive light. They don't contribute to anything aside from internet culture and they drain their families' resources. Gotta keep in mind that being employed is sort of a huge social requirement.

>>12963658
Pretty sure the British actually coined the term NEET and defined the parameters that Japan uses.

Are NEET threads allowed again?

>>12963884
The janitor was actually being cool the other day and letting a couple of threads that would usually be closed instantly run

>>12963771
Most countries fake their unemployment numbers writing off people who've been unemployed for too long as "no longer looking for a job"

one of the reasons Spain's unemployment rate is so high is because they're actually honest about it

>neet threads are now allowed after seven years of being off topic

>the "deep web" is otaku culture

>>12964056
Please stop

How can NEET culture be big in Japan if there is no welfare? Who else can one rely then except ones parents? What if they kick one out? Or don't they do that in Japan?

>>12964056

>board is literally called "otaku culture"
>hikki/neet is somehow off topic

>>12963798

gotta love mexico, where living in your parents is considered completely acceptable until you marry, also having no also job means "being an adventurous fellow looking for business opportunities".

in fact, if you are not married AND living alone you are considered some sort of heartless anti-social who hates his family and just wants to waste money for no reason.

>>12964098
there's no welfare in Japan?

Is this the loli thread?

>>12964098
Statistically speaking, the parents are probably workaholics with tons extra money left over from overtime pay, and care enough about their image to rather support their worthless son's NEET lifestyle than let it be know they're son is a homeless drug addict or something. Enviable.

>>12964411
I agree with you except for this
>also having no also job means "being an adventurous fellow looking for business opportunities"
I think that no matter where you live, if you're not "working" (doing something and not just stay in home all day) you are seen as social garbarge.

So NEET friend here. I'm trying to get a job at the local library. I hope they accept me.

>>12963628
Living at home is normal in Japan even as an Adult, so more people can afford to do nothing

>>12964924
Library work sounds pretty good, to be honest. Stacking books and that sort of thing doesn't sound too hard and they're probably fine with you reading some of the time. Good luck!

>>12964924

Don't you need a degree in Library science.

And who uses public library nowadays.

>>12963798
>There is, however a growing trend of people in their late 20s and early 30s moving back in with their parents, with or without a job, and it's that group that's probably closest to Japanese NEETs

There are people with jobs that move back in with their parents because the cost of living in major US cities is insane and salaries cant keep up. When the average rent in your city is $1700 per month and buying a home will cost you a minimum of $600k, moving back with the parents doesn't seem so bad.

There are some families that just go all in and pool their money together to buy a home.

More people need to do that instead of carrying the world on their shoulders alone.

I have a job and work and I'm in education but I slack off tons, can I still be a NEET? I mean I feel like a NEET because I slack off and skip so much.

>>12965156
You wouldn't be a NEET, you'd be a NT. Or just a slacker.

>>12965168
I don't think that really matters. I've still got the "if I work I lose" mindset. I'm just doing it to survive. So I'd still say I classify as a NEET.

Maybe NEETdom is the antithesis to Karoshi?

Japan has horrible working conditions and shallow people. It makes work and social life depressing for a lot of people so they just become neets.

>>12965144
I can't imagine how much it would suck having to go back living with parents after you move out.

I've had enough of this boring suburb to last me the rest of my lifetime, it's going to be great when I'm finally somewhere else.

>>12965180
>Karoshi
Why did I first read that as boyfriend?

>>12965192

Sometimes you just don't have a choice.

>>12965192
Catch 22. lets say your suburb is is on this list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-income_counties_in_the_United_States

And your job only pays you $25-$35k starting out. There is no way you'd be able to afford an apartment in any of those areas by yourself and I doubt most of /jp/ wants to get an apartment with some unknown roommate or relive their college dorm years.

Is this the NEET thread?

>>12965238
No, look at OPs picture. This is the poser NEET thread.

>>12965247
Fucking piece of shit fake NEET's.

Kuso thread.

>tfw I'm a neet again starting today

>>12965232
That's fine if you live in small towns or rural areas. I make about 10,000 a year and I live in my own apartment alone.

>>12965176
>I'm just doing it to survive.
You have already lost.

>>12965176
This >>12965768

Yeah. That’s the beginning of the end really.
I am also talking from experience too.
Started off with hey lets earn some money, lets see how long I can go how much money I can earn in total and do something big with the savings and invest big.
Before you know it its long term slave-wagery.

>>12965768
>>12965831
I'm pretty sure the poster was joking about how Anzu is a FAKE NEET AND A HUGE SHIT.

>>12965180

It is. Kids grow up with miserable workaholic parents and don't want that life for themselves.

>>12963628
in 2015 CE food is abundant and not everyone actually needs to work

>>12966032
>in 2015 CE food is abundant and not everyone actually needs to work
>CE

Whats that?

Also there is more to life than food anon

>>12966049
CE=Cool Era (Ice Age)

>>12966049

Common era. Used instead of AD by people who want to be faggots about religion.

Changing the calendar epoch is not an idea without merit. Continuing to count from Christ's birth but changing the abbreviation is ridiculous.

please do not have autism about my choice in date representation

>>12966115
Don't forget that christfags can read it as Christian Era.

>>12963628
Is popular because NEETS in japan consume media (idols, anime, manga) the media panders to them and they are known here in the west because we consume the same media as them.

I'm pretty sure that NEET culture is not that big outside weeb circles.

>>12963680
NEET = people without jobs or school
Otaku = people with autistic interest in a particular hobbie or subject.

The answer is no.

>>12966380
>Otaku = people with autistic interest in a particular hobbie or subject.
>autistic

Is this word used interchangeably with obsessive now?

Honest question.

>>12966432
An otaku is an obsessive person towards their preferred interest.

I don't know why you're asking, honestly.

>>12966432
Yes, and it's our fault.

>>12966465

You're misunderstanding the point I was questioning.

The post I quoted used autistic instead of obsessive. I'm asking why? Because my understanding is that autistic whilst a common trait is not a qualifying criteria.

>>12966032
*tips*

NEET isn't a culture

>>12966509
most people don't use autistic here in the medical sense

>>12963798
And then you've got people like me, mentally ill and living on SSI. I happily mind my own business. I leave the house to handle essential business and that's it.
>>12964098
>How can NEET culture be big in Japan if there is no welfare?
There is welfare in Japan. I know/knew a Japanese NEET girl who is an autist on disability. I say 'know/knew' because she can't really have a normal friendship let alone relationship, she disappears for months on end. I get the impression that welfare can be harder to obtain there though, and it depends on the prefecture. Instead of national systems like SSI, medicare, medicaid etc the prefectures local government handle it.

There are even single moms on welfare in Japan.

>>12966841
>Japanese NEET girl
Was she attractive?

>>12966842
Yeah, really cute. She doesn't wear any makeup, style her hair too much or dress up though, although it doesn't matter as she's naturally beautiful. I think makeup and many types of clothes drive her nuts. Also she's a hardcore otaku so I don't think she cares much. She likes really perverted hentai and everything.

I could still contact her but the pain whenever she has to 'pull away' is extreme. Especially when she went into hibernation for 1 1/2 months. I get rather (too) attached to her. She's an alcoholic too though (uses it to deal with depression, emptiness and feeling like she dishonored herself and her family srs)

>>12966842
Actually I know for fact that in addition to 2chan she frequents /h/ and /e/ here on 4chan.

>tfw artist living with parents and can barely afford art supplies

>>12966852
How old is she?

And go for it. You can be her white knight savior like Misaki Nakahara from NHK. Think of the possibilities.

How do you communicate btw presumably one of you two is fluent is the other's language?

>>12966852
you're pathetic

>>12966852
Get real, frigger. There's no naturally attractive japanese hikkineetaku girls. There may be a select few per thousand that may look decent but only after a ton of makeup.

>>12967203
Beauty is subjective.

>>12967207
There is a beauty constant based on facial feature shape and proportions. Almost everybody will unanimously agree that some people are simply just more beautiful or ugly than others. Nobody will ever see the hunchback as visually attractive except sick fetishist fucks who are the rare exception.

>>12967212
>except sick fetishist fucks who are the rare exception
where the hell do you think you are

>>12967227
So you're sexually attracted to ugly morbidly obese chicks? Didn't think so. All the 2d girls you like are beautiful and sexy.

>>12966774
A friend of mine says that a culture needs a typical dish to be counted as a culture.
Do NEETs have any dish of their own?

>>12963628
>2015
>being neet

Why would you? Also, I'm pretty sure there are not that many actual neets anywhere, even in japan

>>12967430
Frozen pizzas and other minimum effort meals seem to be especially popular.

>>12963628

Where can I get this shirt in glorious moon runes? I need it for, uh, a friend.

>>12967592
literally any fucking service that will print you a t-shirt

>>12967457
Been NEET since 2005, once you go in, you don't come out.

At least it's very hard too. What job experience does a NEET like me have to offer? I'd rather collect my monthly check and mind my own.

>>12966818
I think you're mistaken.
I think you may be in denial of the requisite literal autism for posting on our delightful imageboard.

>>12968473
Same here. Been a NEET since 2008. It scares me to death going for a job interview because then I'll have to explain my background and history.

Nothing wrong with collecting welfare, it's stolen money anyway, at least you're getting some of our money back and it allows you to opt-out of the wage slave farms that people attend because its "normal".

Providing work that brings in a far larger return than what you get back in paper and coins that have made up values. Here's a tip, the money you make will never get you back the time you wasted in exchange for it.

>>12967457
You should check the statistics for your area, you'd be surprised

There are almost a million NEETs in my city. Every street corner has a bunch of kids sitting on the pavement drinking wine

>>12967592
maybe your friends at /a/ can help you with that glorious request, friend :)

>>12968473
>>12969191
I don't suppose you'd know, but why do entry level positions _anywhere_, even ones that are asking for a student or a fresh graduate, require the person applying to have x years of experience?
Are they meant to lie or something? How could I have years of experience if I was a full time student up until a few months ago?

>>12969191
If you really want to work it's not too late.

It's scary but if they're taking the time to actually interview you they'll probably only want to see what kind of person you are.

Make up some lie if they ask you about the gap in your resume or whatever they're talking about, just nothing too complicated.
As long as you work hard and do your best if you get the job, I see nothing wrong with lying.

The first time I had a job I was a complete wreck the first weeks, got better when I made up a different personality while working.

>>12969325
Depends on what type of job it is. To be honest working at MCDonalds is stupid if i make more than that doing jack shit.

sleepy neety

>>12970070
Get that fake NEET out of here.

all I want is to play videogames in someone's house and eat a meal a day and do nothing important with my time until I die.

>>12963628
Because the goal that Japanese youth are presented with growing up is to become a salaryman who works 10-12 hour days for six days a week for 30 years of your life.

There's also the tremendous pressure put on students to get high grades so they can get into a top-tier university. Teenagers just simply crack and lose all drive to do anything.

>>12969261
Because someone with years of experience doens't need a formation, which makes the employer gain times, which makes the employer gain money.
It's as simple as that.
And having workes somewhere else before can be a proof of being someone competent if your previous employer gives you recommendation.

>>12967430
Isn't that just noodles?

In the early 1960s, the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) acquired property in a rural area outside Poolesville, Maryland. The facility that was built on this property housed several research projects, including those headed by Calhoun. It was here that his most famous experiment, the mouse universe, was created.[1] In July 1968 four pairs of mice were introduced into the Utopian universe. The universe was a 9-foot (2.7 m) square metal pen with 54-inch-high (1.4 m) sides. Each side had four groups of four vertical, wire mesh “tunnels.” The “tunnels” gave access to nesting boxes, food hoppers, and water dispensers. There was no shortage of food or water or nesting material. There were no predators. The only adversity was the limit on space.

Initially the population grew rapidly, doubling every 55 days. The population reached 620 by day 315, after which the population growth dropped markedly. The last surviving birth was on day 600. This period between day 315 and day 600 saw a breakdown in social structure and in normal social behavior. Among the aberrations in behavior were the following: expulsion of young before weaning was complete, wounding of young, inability of dominant males to maintain the defense of their territory and females, aggressive behavior of females, passivity of non-dominant males with increased attacks on each other which were not defended against. After day 600, the social breakdown continued and the population declined toward extinction. During this period females ceased to reproduce. Their male counterparts withdrew completely, never engaging in courtship or fighting. They ate, drank, slept, and groomed themselves – all solitary pursuits. Sleek, healthy coats and an absence of scars characterized these males. They were dubbed “the beautiful ones".

1/2

The conclusions drawn from this experiment were that when all available space is taken and all social roles filled, competition and the stresses experienced by the individuals will result in a total breakdown in complex social behaviors, ultimately resulting in the demise of the population.

Calhoun saw the fate of the population of mice as a metaphor for the potential fate of man. He characterized the social breakdown as a “second death,” with reference to the “second death” mentioned in the Biblical book of Revelation 2:11 [1] His study has been cited by writers such as Bill Perkins as a warning of the dangers of the living in an "increasingly crowded and impersonal world."[2]

2/2
This is what happens when you leave 100 million people on an island with population density all packed into a handful of cities

/jp/-experimental psychology culture

>>12967189
Yeah, up yours buddy. You're an insecure little shit or you wouldn't feel the need to say something like that to someone unprovoked.

>>12967203
I'm over 30, I don't lie on the internet. Why would someone lie anonymously to a bunch of strangers they'll never meet on the internet. Kind of pointless. I may lie if there's something to gain from it, but what will I gain here...

>>12967072
She's 29.

She speaks English.

The savior thing doesn't work. I know as I had someone try to 'savior' me. At least I got several years of good memories out of it. Although I'm not certain it was worth it.

I would never trust a woman that much anyway.

>>12972586
>>12972599
>>12972622
Please use condense your posts into one post, gramps.

>>12967072
>I would never trust a woman that much anyway.
Never again, anyway. I've already been there with 'my' Misaki. I bet the writer of that story (who used himself as the template for Sato) actually had a Misaki. It isn't unbelievable, in fact it's a common scenario. They typically have secret agendas though.

Actually, my attraction to the woman is that I saw her as a kindred spirit as she is essentially the female version of me, and that ain't easy to find.

Generally saviors, as Misaki did, feel themselves superior to you when usually they are aren't as why would they need to find a 'fixer-uper.' They themselves feel like losers or they wouldn't be trying to set themselves up as superior by being a savior. They can have one person that they can feel better than. One person in the world to validate themselves.

I feel neither greater nor lesser to this woman.

>>12972496
>>12972504

Fascinating read. I always like when /jp/ gets intellectual

>>12972742
>gramps
Ouch. Well it's my attention span due to my issues. Fine. I'll just leave. I'm wasting my time anyway.

>>12964107

They were unfairly blamed for being the main reason for meta-derailments and for attracting shitposters.

Even so, I can't think of anything more on-topic to a board called "Otaku culture" than Neet/Hikki talk, as long as it stays in its own thread.

>>12972622
>I know as I had someone try to 'savior' me. At least I got several years of good memories out of it. Although I'm not certain it was worth it.

What do you mean?

>She's 29.
>She speaks English.

Go
for
it.

>>12972622
>someone try to savior me. At least I got several years of good memories out of it

Elaborate

>>12973515
>>Although I'm not certain it was worth it.
>What do you mean?
>Elaborate

Well after having been in isolation for 8 years between age 17-25 my 'Misaki' came along. It was virtually the same thing as in Welcome To The NHK. She thought she could 'fix' me. I made the mistake of marrying her. She lived in the UK at the time and if I hadn't I never would have lived there, then later moved to Australia with her. The whole thing lasted 7 years. So I went from hikiki to traveling the world. In addition to the life experience, I got a lot of sex whereas I'd have otherwise likely died a virgin as my J-counterpart may well do.

Among other negatives, I ended up homeless in the end as I'd foolishly given up my only source of financial independence to be with her (I had to). I spent 1 1/2 years homeless in Australia. Not on the street, I was in a rooming house but that's bad enough.

Somewhere in the midst of all this I spent time wandering around Australia aimlessly and confused looking for some alternative to the rooming house (I didn't succeed). I had little idea of what I was doing. I only got home in the end as my pride broke down and I asked my dad for a plane ticket home (not cheap).

>Go
>for
>it.

I don't think it's realistic. The relationship I had was unrealistic enough but even though it happened wasn't worth it. I left my house once, look what happened. I can't risk it again for something that likely will not last. Also, I cannot be this girls Misaki since we are both 'Satos.' That was the main attraction, not oneitis but that she was virtually the female version of me in more ways than the NEET aspect. I would have been her friend even if she were male, only I wouldn't have wanted to screw her.

I tried to get close to her actually, I thought I'd start by being gaming partners. But, even the avatars on MMOs freaked her out since actual people were behind them.

I'm not much healthier than her really, only slightly. Enough that I can usually fake normal.

>>12975187
Damn bitches and whores, anon.

Bitches and whores, they ain't worth shit.

>>12975209
Yeah, if only youtube and the abundance of 'red pill' knowledge and things like 'MGTOW' had been around to give me information back in the mid 2x's. I now fully see the error of my ways, every single step of the way. I also see her manipulation, how she worked on me, and all of her hidden motives. Her project failed, but more simply she decided "ho-hum, I'm done now." After that point it doesn't matter what you've been through with them, or what you've done for them, you are dead to them. Just like that.

The media fed to me that being married and having a woman would make me normal. That I wasn't complete without one. The media led me to believe that women were these good-willed angelic beings...

If I'd gotten hold of the 'red pill' back then, it never would have happened. Oh well, on the bright side homelessness made me a master at managing money. I even manage a small savings. Woot...

>>12975244
Cheer up and good luck, friend.

That's all I can say.

>>12975209
>>12975244
Oh, and it's why I've since decided to emulate herbivore men. I have a great admiration for them now. MGTOW is good but can be angry at times. I prefer the 'eff it, I'm just going to chill and whatevs and if a woman comes mayb whatevs prolly not mayb a little or jus bffs 2d>3d idk wwwww' attitude of herbivore men.

Also, I studied the things that they use in lieu of women to keep their sanity. They are very effective. Although it's a pity that I can't have a sociopathic Japanese girl clean my ears. That guy was such an ingrate.

http://youtu.be/JsvxqWkmV6A

>>12975343
Thanks anon, I always try to stay positive. I've got a lot of escapist activities and many hobbies. The world is was it is.

>>12972496
>>12972504
This study is fascinating and pretty much says it all. It said what I've been saying for years: Japan has been an accelerated model for the rest of the world.

I want to be one of the nice, happy and healthy rats (herbivore). I will never risk giving it up again... there is no sense in it.

Do NEETs make good friends?

>>12963798

Mang I dun wanna be a parasitic single neet. Working is hard though and the last place I worked they said I was slow. Like physically slow. I dunno why I think pretty fast.

Man, my mula is running out.

I think I only have about 3 years left (this included) of being a NEET.

Am I going to die after? What's going to happen to me?

>>12975492
Just be faster next time anon ;_;

>>12975511

I think it's just depression which causes apathy and sluggishness. It doesn't matter too much if I were able to focus. I need to go Freud on m brain and get me some cocaine

>>12975486
some traitorNEETs make internet friends on MMOGs, the NEET community despises the people who play multiplayer games though

>>12975508
It can play out a couple of ways. It all depends on just how strong your will to survive is. Don't misunderstand and think that you're just going to kill yourself, you'd be surprised how strong your will to live is compared to your desire to die.

1) If you have someone that can take care of you, you're probably going to go to those people and survive a couple more years in relative comfort.

2) You get financial and social aid (from your government probably) and begin to work towards reintegrating into society and find a meaningful career or purpose.

3) You commit a crime/several crimes to survive comfortably, till you get caught and thrown in prison. Which may not be a bad thing depending on what your prison system is like. If your prison system is like the ones in the west, you're fucked unless you can somehow socialize with ruthless dumb ass thugs who get caught and quarantined away from society.

4) You live homelessly under the radar of the law, begging for a living.

5) You kill yourself.

>>12975524
So a truNEET is completely friendless?

>>12975531
Dude.. I just want to take it easy.

Why does everything have to be so complicated? Fuck, man.

>>12975536
Because you were born a human male in a below average wealthy family. Do you have any regrets?

>>12975540
I sure do, dude.

I wish I could turn back time.

>>12975515
Don't do drugs, shit's bad for you.

>>12975534
you don't need friends, you only need people to talk or listen if you don't want to go insane, MMOGs are filled with filthy normals, don't go there to find people to talk or listen to

>>12975543
No remorse, no regret, anon.

>>12975545

Freud was one of the best minds in his field and he thought cocaine was a wonder drug.

>>12975550
But you might get addicted and become a junkie.

>>12975543
When you are twice as old as you are now, you're going to wish you were half as old as you were and change a lot of things. It's a shame we can't get that future life experience and insight ahead of time so we can make meaningful changes with our lives.

>>12975550
Psychology is a very dumb field though, for very dumb people.

>>12975548
I play a MMOGs and don't talk to anyone or join a guild. If I raid I join PUGs. The problem is that RPGs are my favorite, and the only thing that comes close to the early 80's, 90s-2000 J-RPG experience is MMORPGs.

Not everyone is social in MMORPGs. In citychat once while everyone was discussing what was wrong with WoW I broke form and said "What is wrong with WoW are the people. People ruin WoW. If it were up to me everyone in WoW would be an advanced NPC that I could program to say or do whatever I wanted."

>>12975562

What about Paul Edros?

>>12975562
Psychology just attracts people from the lower end of the IQ scale compared to other sciences because it doesn't have all the hard math or concepts that the other sciences do, effectively making it look like a science for dumb people. It's definitely a field worth studying and exploring intensively though, it's important that we know more.

>>12975548
/jp/ - my friends are here

>>12975557
This is pretty deep, dude.

>>12975244
>The media led me to believe that women were these good-willed angelic beings...
It's a shame that you believed that about an entire sex, even if it was only subconsciously, and needed reddit to tell you otherwise. I don't understand how you red pill guys could have ever been so gullible in dealing with obvious harpy females, are you all fatherless or something?

>>12975534
Somewhere down the line you realize you don't need friends, and taking me as an example your friends get tired of you being social trash and eventually go away, about a month ago who used to be my best friend got married. I found out while I was lurking my facebook.
>>12975508
I only have about 1 year, I've been living off my "college" and my parents expect a masters degree this winter... kek

Is DXM the NEET drug of choice?

>>12975917
I preffer acid, makes the anime look awesome.

>>12975630
>are you all fatherless or something?
I think the problem is pretty widespread. If men don't have absent fathers (which are often absent due to the mother) then you have whipped, extreme examples of beta male fathers. On top of that, just as that mouse study demonstrated, mothers are becoming increasingly abusive and/or overbearing.

I had a weak father and an abusive (psychotic, actually) and overbearing mother. So a woman comes along and sees the hole in a man where maternal love should be and she exploits it. The woman doesn't even have to be inherently bad. When women get desperate as they're hitting the wall many will do anything.

You know, I actually envy how Japanese mothers are so close to their sons that some jerk them off and everything. Having experienced the opposite extreme makes it sound like heaven to me.

I think most if not all men will get effed over in this day and age. But, a man who had a strong father and a nurturing mother will get effed less harshly. In the end we're all even, the only difference is some of us learned the easy way, some the hard way. It's a wonder that I even survived.

>>12975917
>>12976007
Don't do drugs.
>>12976043
>effed
Nigger what?

>>12976050
>Nigger what?
Fucked.

>>12976050
>Don't do drugs.
What else am I supposed to do with my time? Drugs are such an easy way to kill a few hours.

/jp/ is my anti drug

>>12976110
Play vidya, shoot gun, watch music, talk with /jp/.

Don't engage addictive chemical substances.

>>12976135
>watch music videos*

>>12976043

I moved away with my mother and sister from my (beta) father when I was 11 (am now 26).

So the only times I ever saw him was for his 2 week holiday period he had every year or 2 year.

Psychoanalyze me Freud.

>>12975562
>>12975569

They get paid well do they not? And the mainstream can't get enough of them it seems either.

>>12976147
>Psychoanalyze me Freud.
Are you serious? I'm just trying to get at the root of the issue.

I wouldn't try to tell an individual what is up with him.

I don't know, how do you feel about it? I think that's what is important.

>>12976135
anon can smoke/vaporize/cook with cannabis then since it won't lead to a physical addiction and he it'll enhance his pleasure for everything he does!

>>12976159
I don't know what to feel anymore.

>>12976172
Well you are in luck, you made me remember this video. See if this applies to you.

http://youtu.be/EeORJ0ICnRw

>>12976173

Oh god I am going watch this and I just know nothing good will come of this.

>>12976173
Wow. This gay nigger is hardcore biased against women, based on how his black community is crumbling down. Black women and black men are basically the worst race to exist. They only create conflict among themselves for ever and ever, all they do is steal, rape and destroy. The only time they're not doing that is if they break away from the ghettos and start to live amongst civilized (white) people. Barbar is still in the ghetto, trying to make his ghetto ass dump a better place by waging more war, but nothing good is ever going to come from that.

His problem isn't women, it's the pigment of his skin.

I don't wanna be a NEET, because when I am NEET I get depressed and lethargic.

But a lot of the jobs that are out there are super stressful, which aggravates mental illnesses I have.

Does anyone know any type of work where I can just take it easy? I want to be able to sort of turn my brain off and just work with my body, doing things like planting trees, shoveling dirt, pulling weeds, or colouring in line art.

Tasukete onegai

>>12976242
You can be a prison guard in Texas if you can yell at black people.

It's a guaranteed hire if you're not a felon and can climb stairs.

>>12976237
Please no, white women are worse because they are loud as fuck and they actually hold power.

>>12976265
>are loud as fuck
Have you even seen a black woman?

>>12976272
Black women are physically loud, white women are influentially loud, if that makes sense.

>>12976237
>
He's actually Dominican and he's one of many guys like him who are from all ethnic groups, he has since graduated from college and he's a chemical engineer. His father came to the US when he was still a boy under a skilled worker visa. I don't know what his dad did. He did grow up in the Bronx though and likely went to mostly black primary schools, hence his accent.
>>12976265
I agree.

I don't even like being friends with white women anymore and that includes westernized asian women which is the same thing.

White in the west simply means mainstream culture.

All of my female friends are asian and not very westernized.

That doesn't mean they are perfect. I'm not perfect, no one is, but I can at least tolerate them.

>>12976289
He's just as biased as the feminists he fights against, like a caricature of the MRA. Ironically his real enemy is men, women don't actually have any influence unless it is given to them by men. Nobody gives a shit about anything unless men also give a shit about it. That's the truth.

>>12976254
I am not looking for mental stress and working in a prison would be incredibly stressful because I'd be afraid of getting stabbed or attacked by bavarian brotherhood or crips or whoever.

>>12976315
>Nobody gives a shit about anything unless men also give a shit about it. That's the truth.

Yes, it's true, and actually he doesn't deny that. The issue with both men and women's shared desire to look after women. What he mainly advocates is men looking after themselves and letting society fall apart in the hands of women. He and those like him are different from the MRA and are nihilistic and that make no secret about it. The idea is that things have gotten so bad that it's hopeless and nothing can be done for our sick system so men should just live for themselves. They don't look for solutions, and believe solutions can only be implement after a social collapse, at which point humanity will have to radically alter itself ... no one pretends to yet no what form this will take. Will it mean the end of male/relationships all together, replaced by artificial technology? (this is already happening) Will it mean the end of gender as we know it?

Guys like him are just herbivore men but it isn't a copy of it ... just the western response to the same things herbivores respond to. And it is more 'angry' and deliberate than the herbivore thing as the west is more 'angry' and deliberate. More 'masculine.'

Herbivores have no desire to cause a social collapse although they are causing one, while MGTOW type of people are fapping to the collapse.

>>12976315
People like him advocate never getting married, never having a live in relationship, never having a child with a woman, never spending money on women unless they spend the same amount on you, not doing anything for women unless they do things for you, not falling in love with women, going against their instinct to help women and only helping themselves seeing as women have no such instinct to help men ... only themselves, other women and children.

It works for me, as I no longer care about society and it is a safe way to live. I do not hate or blame women though, women are just what they are due to biology (I think it is more biology and less social factors) as are men. Actually, for complicated reasons most of my friends end up being women... these days, mostly women who aren't looking for their own varying and complicated reasons.

get a blog you faggots

>>12976365
>get a blog you faggots
http://youtu.be/2-yeZpLIVwo

>>12976338
>>12976357
I don't get it. The more intelligent and privileged we as a society get, the less we (men and women) want to do with each other. Then there are shitholes like india, china and africa where living conditions are hard and there they are suffering overpopulation.

Are we really no better than rats? I thought we could use our brains to solve these issues, but it turns out even with all our complex thoughts, we no sense.

>>12976380
Brains aren't as good or as sophisticated as they are made out to be.

>>12976403
We're the only species on this planet with brain development at our level, and it explains why we are at the top of the food chain on earth.

>>12976380
The people in those areas don't have access to birth control, porn, constant entertainment or a pampered cozy life where they don't need to seek out a mate to feel content.

>>12976380
Well all I can say is that my needs were always simple. I wanted someone to love, and for someone to love me, and for us both to be 100% faithful to each other.

It seems that it's too much to ask, and to me that really sucks. So I share your disappointment.

Chobits is one of my favorite anime for a reason. The entire show pretty much sums up my feelings, more or less.

>>12976380
Not sure what you mean by comparing us to rats, Those places are the other face of capitalism, they are productive countries, also even now unless you are truly exceptional your brain wont get noticed until later in life, meanwhile you'll probably get bullied and live a lonely life.

>>12976426
I was referring to this study >>12972496 but apparently they were mice not rats.

>>12976430
The more intelligent some get, the more they plan ahead having less children in order to be able to provide a good chilhood for them, instead, uneducated people tend to do whatever they feel like and end up having more children than they can afford, this turns into tax deviation and they still not caring.

>>12976449
When rich people have kids, they expect the kids to become individuals.

When poor people have kids, they just want to increase production.

How about we change this... are any of you acctually a NEET? if so.
>How long have you been one ?
>Why are you a NEET?
>Longest time without going outside?
>How much time you think you can keep this up and what are you going to do next?

>>12976529
What is this, an interrogation?

>>12965144
This guy gets it. I also have friends who moved out right after high school. Having poor personal finance, and not being able to get a decent paying job, they couldn't keep for rent or living expense. They pretty much they just shot themselves in the foot before even starting their own life.

I guess if you are taking care of your living expense and contribute to your family house hold, then it's not a shame to live with your parents.

>>12976636
Living with your parents is ok, living off your parents is not.

One can be a NEET as long as one can leech off someone else. Otherwise you just starve to death.

Give me a job dudes, I have a degree.

If you are NEET with no options you should consider joining Novorossya

1) they are winning
2) the border isn't patrolled
3) you won't be considered a terrorist by international authorities

You can just travel to Rostov in Russia and then cross the border to Donetsk on foot. no one will stop you
there are constant recruitment threads on krautchan's /int/ board if you want more details

once you get back, you can write a book about your adventures and make money.
I was planning on doing this last year, but I got a job.

>>12976789
English? Art? Women's studies?

>>12976859
Accounting.

>>12976885
I'm working as an accountant and never even finished my degree since I inherited my job. sorry but you picked a field where nepotism runs rampant.

>>12963628

Wish I could be a NEET (or just spend life doing what I wanted all the time) but unfortunately life is expensive and there are bills to pay.

>>12965305

Wow maybe it's time for me to move from the city.

>>12976789
This job isn't really ideal for people who can't deal with the public or stress, but it's a guaranteed $30k/yr with full benefits and you've automatically got the job if you show up to the testing date and aren't a felon or in a wheel chair.

http://tdcj.state.tx.us/divisions/hr/

I pretty much stand around and yell at niggers all day.

>>12976952
Who are you and why are you so interested into getting anons to work on Texas' prisons?

>>12976854
>I was planning on doing this last year, but I got a job.

Nah, you just pussied out.

>>12963798
>a white trash meth addict welfare queen.
This sums up my cousins perfectly.
They don't work, do drugs like meth, and are constantly fighting each other or leeching off of my grandpa.
They even have 2 kids each.

>>12976962
It's the best entry-level job you can get, and it has no prerequisites other than not being a felon or a cripple. As long as you don't meet one of those two disqualifications you can't not get the job.

>>12976952
I doubt these jobs are as easy to get as you're implying

>>12976987
You'd be surprised. I figured I'd have to actually try to get it and listed all of my previous military and security experience and combat training, but then it turns out that they'll literally hire anyone.

Half the people on my shift are Nigerians who barely speak English and can't run a cell block with anything resembling authority.

As long as you show up to the testing date, you've got the job.

>>12976666
exactly.

>>12976885
>>12976789
Accounting? Come on dude, that is an useful degree. I think you just need to really market yourself. Seriously tho, I know lots of start up company are in high demand of accountant.

>>12977003

I'm not surprised. I have a job at UPS and literally all I did was show up. They didn't even really care to ask me about my history until I was already working. Granted, the job is shitty but at least there is opportunity.

>>12977248
What's your position? I had a seasonal job as a driver helper at UPS last month. It was so much fun for me. They didn't ask me about prior job experience either. I was on the job the day after my interview.

>>12972496
>>12972504
What happened in the mice was this: Calhoun called the males the 'beautiful ones'. Those at the end had a kind of autistic life.

>>12977503
This is directly from his paper by the way.

>>12976903
That's probably how it works everywhere. Also hire me.

>>12977228
It's probably I have no work experience. But when I applied to internships I got none. My grades are fine.

>>12976903
Hire me.

>>12977228
It's surely because I have no work experience. But when I applied to internships I got no replies. Grades are fine.

NEET culture is big in Japan because so many white collar workers are envious of the unemployed. I think Japan would really benefit by cutting down "full time employment" to 37.5 hours per week. In reality though, NEETs are so much of a minority in Japan. There's much hgher levels of NEET humans in places like the West or South Asia.

Japan's unemployment rates have always been in the sub-5% rate - they've never had the sort of long term structural unemployment that places like Germany have suffered with.

The NEET thing seems amplified because unemployed Japanese generally sit around consuming media in their homes, rather than going out and causing problems for other people like they do in western countries.

Some of them are even creative enough to actually make things while they're unemployed too. Could you ever imagine Abdul or Tyrone bothering to do something like practice drawing while he's out of a job?

>>12977693
Japan shuffled most of it's unemployment away into underemployment.

>>12977702
There has been a rise in part time work throughout the developed world, this isn't unique to Japan.

Do you believe in the "Japanese economy is dying" myth?

Are you Korean or affiliated with any Korean groups?

>>12977003
>but then it turns out that they'll literally hire anyone.
Then /jp/ should join TSA. That at least has federal benefits and you can move on to other federal agencies after one year working there.

>>12977711
>There has been a rise in part time work throughout the developed world, this isn't unique to Japan.
39% is significantly higher than the entirety of the OCED except the Netherlands.

>Do you believe in the "Japanese economy is dying" myth?
An economy that doesn't grow isn't dying, but it does kind of suck.

>Are you Korean or affiliated with any Korean groups?
No.
An economy that doesn't grow isn't dead, but it does suck.

>>12977702
>>12977711

Everyone else does the same thing to hide the problem too. 5% employment isn't so great when 25% of the country is selling clothes and burgers.

>>12977711
>There has been a rise in part time work throughout the developed world, this isn't unique to Japan.
39% is significantly higher than the entirety of the OCED except the Netherlands (although this picture is from a report on Europe.)

>Do you believe in the "Japanese economy is dying" myth?
An economy that doesn't grow isn't dying, but it does kind of suck.

>Are you Korean or affiliated with any Korean groups?
No.

>>12976529

- 5 years, I don't have a job but I pay the bills by playing casual games for money online

- I can't think of a job or career to pursue where I would enjoy myself, or at least not be miserable

- About three weeks. I can't remember the last time I went outside for something other than grocery shopping

- I had some money saved up before I started living on my own, but my ``income'' isn't enough to offset my cost of living so I'm slowly running out. I'm sure things will magically work themselves out, though.

>>12978238
>playing casual games for money online
What do you mean, do you sell stuff on Eve Online or something?
That sounds pretty awesome.

>>12976424
>Well all I can say is that my needs were always simple. I wanted someone to love, and for someone to love me, and for us both to be 100% faithful to each other.
I will never know that feel ;_;

On Wikipedia it says NEET was first used in England. So if OP is specifically talking about Japan shouldn't he be using 'hikikimori'?

>>12975187

Wow.

Firstly I'd say it was worth it. You can't put a value on life experience.

What was your "wife" like? I mean how did you meet her, why exactly did she marry you (other than to "fix" you), was she at least attractive, was she well off financially and career wise, why did i took a whole 7 years to end?

Other than your "financial independence" whatever that was, it does seem like you are better off / stronger from this experience. Maybe not enough to be a Misaki but still.

Sorry if too may questions, I do genuinely like NEET stories and moreso than /jp/ doesn't really have alot of truNEETs but really NEETs in spirits ho are dying on the inside like myself which imo is much worse.

>>12978454
Hiki and NEET aren't the same thing.

Hikis don't leave the house because of crippling social phobias. NEETs are just livin' the dream.

>>12976043
You just admitted you want mommy to jerk you off.

>>12976529
What if I like to go out for midnight winter strolls?

>>12978290

By casual games I mean Bejeweled and other Facebook-tier puzzle/action games. There are a few sites around that let you wager money against other people on those sorts of games, and sometimes they hold tournaments or put up large pots for games. I can maintain a profit but I'm not good enough to live off of what I make from it

>>12978467
A hikki can work from home, however you can also be a NEET/hikki and do nothing, nothing at all.
>>12978530
It counts as going out.
>>12978641
Why not take the next step ? try some moba or livestream.

>>12978725
>MOBA
>"next step"

>>12978765
I lol'd so hard, but if he is playing games to earn income, what's wrong with going with the flow ? 1 dollar donation in twtich serves for 2 packs of instant noodles -> 3 days food.

>>12978467

If you knew of the things humans would do without thinking about it you wouldn't leave your house either!

>>12978464
My ex was kind of goth and a geek. I met her on the net in a support group. She has problems too, but she can work. We discussed interesting subjects, played games, watched geeky movies and anime together. That and her brain was my main attraction to her. Unfortunately she was lacking in 'femininity' also only a 5-6, I kind of settled on her due to the geek and brainy factor. She said that she married me because she loved me and wanted to help me as she saw potential in me. I don't know what the truth is anymore. Marrying me was the thing that made her finally get on a track (IT field) whereas she was wasting her life before me (and not intentionally). When I met her she was on temporary disability for not being able to handle life on her own. She would have remained on it I think. I supported her emotionally in keeping her new job and career. That's the funny thing, she, too, is stronger for being with me. I taught her to be realistic, control herself and stop being such a wimp. And, her practicality, responsibility and caution wore off on me. We grew together. But I was the only one of us who also grew on my own. She could have been many things with her IQ but wasted it trying to be an electronic musician. She wasted a masters degree in music history .. hell, the degree itself could be called a waste. She could have been a scientist. She often said that she's glad her father left or he would've "forced her into the sciences." Yes, and he would've been a good father to do so. I mean she blew a 160 IQ and masters to do arty farty crap and eventually had a breakdown. Her father was a doctor. Anyway, it all helped teach me something that man is to woman. A woman is rudderless without a man of some sort guiding her. Unless she has some sort of mutant man-woman brain, no matter how much potential, she will fuck it up. She blamed me for holding her back, but after she left she turned back into a fuck up whereas I'm overall better off than when we met

>>12978765
ARTS games are currently the most valuable ones in the world, last I checked

If you go to that esports earnings website, 44 of the top 100 are from Dota alone

NEET since teenage years here. I'm turning 23 this year and I think I'm ready to start making some money for the sole purpose of supporting myself when my mom dies in ~40 years. My only real skill is fluency in Japanese (I would be N1 if I drilled some kanji readings but I can read and hear pretty much anything). What are my options?

>>12979207
VN translator?

>>12978464
Oh ... and it lasted for 7 years as I'm committed and stubborn also I actually believed in the vows we took ... silly me. And, I took good care of her when she was sick, mentally and psychically, which was often. The only thing she gave me credit for at the end of it was always taking good care of her.

Hey Janny.

You were goddamn right.
NEET threads shouldn't be allowed afterall.
All this thread needs is that ugly frog reaction image and you can't tell if this is /jp/ or /r9k/ anymore.

>>12979216
If talking about how bad women are is /r9k/ then every board is /r9k/.

>>12979216
The nice thing about these kinds of threads is that everybody gets to tell their life story once, and then it's told so nobody has to tell it ever again.

Since /jp/ has around five people in it, we just have to burn through all five stories and we're done until next year's annual updates.

>>12979216
I tried posting in /r9k/ and they called me normie scum because I've had sex and gfs at some point in my life, women talk to me and I was married.

To be fair, seeing as I don't feel sorry for myself I probably don't belong there.

>>12979224
"beloinging" in a board is a stupid fucking notion anyway either you talk about the topics of the board or you - oh wait that doesn't apply to /r9k/

man what a shit board

>>12979224
I would consider you normie scum, but failed and learned normie scum.

>>12979216

/r9k/ is full of all bitter people who are mad they don't get sex. truNEETs don't care about sex.

>>12979207
Two options here for you
dead or dead

>>12979232
That's a very fair and insightful assessment.

I'll take it.

>>12979239
True.

>>12979207
If you want to do work outside of your house (= ceasing to be NEET), do the test and seek employment as a translator or interpreter.

Fiver could net you some good money too.

>>12979224
It's a robot frog, android refers to human-shape robot, you goddamn nerd.

>>12979251
Is this right?

>>12979251
batrachoid

going to have to go to the supermarket later guys, not looking forward to it. What should I buy?

>instant noodles
>miso soup mix
>eggs
>ice/green tea
>sushi rice
>savoury snacks
>sweet snacks
>chicken breast
>maybe some pizzas if they don't cost too much

suggestions? Thoughts?

How do you guys get your food?

>>12979928
Are you rich ? All I buy every two weeks are instant noodles, toilet paper, 2x20L water container and 2 boxes of cereal and 2kg of rice.
= ~$25 (The snacks are quite expensive)

>>12979951

Why the water container? Just get some tap water.

>>12979951
>2x20L water container
Whats that for?

>>12979951
>are you rich

I mean not super rich but on the grand scale of the world I guess I technically am

£200/month from the government and £150 from my mother

>>12979951
If you get all that stuff as store brand it shouldn't cost too much. Dunno about miso soup though, and he could just get 1kg/cheap rice instead of sushi rice.

I've finished my shopping cart guys

sorry if I'm bothering you all I just like sharing with you!

>>12979963
>>12979965
In my city, tap water has a lot of chlorine, I'll probably be ok drinking it but one time I made jamaica tea and when the thing turned blue... it freaked me out.
>>12979970
My bad, it kind of looks like a balanced diet.

>>12980060

Dude so such junk food why? And I don't mean the instant noodles either.

Also shit is expensive in the UK.

>>12980061

What city is that?

Is this the NEET thread?

>>12980079
I like junk food! I normally exclude it from my diet (instant noodles too) but I'm really tired of just eating chicken and rice and stuff all the time so I'm going to treat myself.

I don't know why you'd be NEET and not enjoy a good amount of junk food when you can afford it

>shit is expensive in the UK

yeah, cost of living has really been going up and up lately which sucks.

>>12980084
shh don't let the janitor hear you

>>12980088
Please remember to sage.

>>12980103
sorry!

>>12980060
This is disgusting. I can only imagine how obese you are.

>>12980060
>£6 500g rice
Dude just get http://m.tesco.com/h5/groceries/r/www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=258386314

>>12980436
Heh. He has no idea how to shop.

>>12980364
I weigh 75kg you bully

>>12980447
you can't make onigiri with everyday value rice you know!

>>12980060
>Tesco Value Chocolate
>Tesco Value Cookies
Just spend the extra few pence for the normal stuff.
The chocolate tastes like chalk and the cookies taste like actual sugar.

>>12979928
Get some fruit

>>12980536
I have oranges and apples in the house

>>12980481
You better be a tall 180 cm+ cute girl with huge tits. If you aren't then you're just a disgusting lardo.

>>12980568
I am over 180cm

>>12976147

Same exact situation for me. IKTF. absent fathers plus over-bearing mothers = 4chanoholic

>>12975564
saved

>>12981034
Don't bully

I am a NEET for over a year, living from welfare since a few months. I also still live at my parents house. Being autistic and trying to get out of a depression does not help either.

I honestly don't care anymore about finding a job. I just hang out on the internet all day. Probably gonna commit sudoku when they don't want to give me money anymore.

The world is too big to cope with. There's too much thought noise and the systems in place designed to somehow all at once encourage these noises and countless minutae, while properly conditioning them to be conducive to humanity's survival and long term functioning within broader parameters, easily summed up as "society", are unsustainable and frightening. Is it any wonder so many people are retreating from everything?

how the hell do neets even survive?
i've been a neet for a year because my parents still believe that i'll get a job eventually. i wanna stop being a parasite and just live in a shitty apartment on my own with neetbux, but i don't think i'll get nearly enough to pay for rent, food AND internet and all that shit
maybe i should just commit sudoku

Fuck you guys complaining about "waaa I get welfare and it isn't enough to pay for everything I need why is life so hard ;_;"

My country doesn't have autismbux or disability money of welfare or whatever the fuck, you're on your fucking own. You're all lucky fucking babies crying with your mouths full. I hope you all starve to death.

>>12981196
That's a hot sexy girl. I'm pretending that's what you look like making that pseudointellectual post.

I start work tomorrow /jp/.
It was sort of nice but mostly unpleasant knowing you these past however many years it's been.

>>12981765
That's not enough. I'm able to survive because my mom buys me groceries. If I was living all off my own money I'd be eating Maruchan instant noodles and rice every day.

>>12981810
Try working really hard and saving your money so that you can live the NEET life off of your savings for a few months, then return to work and repeat.

>>12976854
Join Russia? I don't get it

>>12981948
"So anon, can you explain this gap in your work history?"

I bullshit on my resume because of two years of NEET.

>>12983326
You just have to mention bullshit buzz like burn out syndrome, gathering new strength, contemplating your future, spending time with your children and so on.

>>12976529
I was one for 4 years. Then I got a full time job working from home. It's like my wildest dream came true. I feel slightly worse than when I was a NEET. Dealing with the fact that your life is over all day long is easier than actually worrying about the future.

Because I'm mentally and socially retarded and even looking for a job takes up too much energy I could use for useful activities like programming.

I never counted. Up to months.

>>12983326
>>12983419
You can't lie on your resume in my country. If you do, your employed can fire you without giving a reason if you do so.

>>12983326
"i was tending to my mental health because i'm a depressed aspie who does his/her best to reintegrate into society and look for work"

>>12976529
>How long have you been one ?
almost 3 years now
>Why are you a NEET?
mostly because of social retardation
>Longest time without going outside?
around 1 month, I'm not a real hikki but even as a kid I used to skip school a lot and stay home for weeks on playing games
>How much time you think you can keep this up and what are you going to do next?
I'm starting to get kinda sick of it and I feel like doing something. My next big step will probably be go to Japan since I have saved up enough with autism bux and speak decent Japanese (taught myself these past years)

>>12983712
>My next big step will probably be go to Japan
Well, good luck with that.

>>12983728
Thanks, I'm not expecting Japan to be a magic land that will solve all my problems but I'll be out of my comfort zone 24/7 and I'll have to safe my own ass for once.

>>12965144
>There are people with jobs that move back in with their parents because the cost of living in major US cities is insane and salaries cant keep up. When the average rent in your city is $1700 per month and buying a home will cost you a minimum of $600k, moving back with the parents doesn't seem so bad.
What city is that?

>>12976043
You are horrible misinformed. But i guess that is to be expected from red pill retards.

>>12977702
This chart makes things look actually not that bad. The rise in part time employment seems to come mainly from new people getting jobs.

Why are NEETs always assumed to be Hikkis? One does not mean the other.

>>12985038
Either lifestyle tends to lead into the other.

>>12977702
This would be good if most people wouldn't end up with several part time jobs.

I just want to have time.

>>12984892
>What city is that?
New York, Washington DC and Boston all have insanely high costs of living. California is expensive because of the sunshine tax.

DC is worse because unlike other cities, you can't escape to the suburbs to get away from the high prices, because like >>12965232 said in that link, DC is surrounded by the richest burbs in the country.

>>12977682
Anon, I just graduated from a mediocre college with mediocre grades and immediately got a job at a CPA firm 52k starting. I didn't even apply, a job agency found my resume and matched me with the company.

If I can do it, you definitely can. Especially since you say your grades were good.

>>12980060
Lol I never knew they would sell Grolsch outside the Netherlands.

>>12969191
I always planned on just saying "Working through some personal problems" if I ever look for a job and I am asked about why I have never worked before in life. Then I will follow it up with someone about not wanting to dwell on the past because the future is more important.

>>12981196
In my case, I just gave up, it all looked so hard and as the sum I am, I woke up one day and simply didn't get out of bed to go to college. It's been 5 years since, my family hates me but they are ashamed to throw me out.

>>12983326
Thankfully my mother is quite ill so I can just use that as an excuse.

>>12975524
how can the NEET community have a consensus if they have no friends????

>>12975524
Panzermoe disagrees.

>>12986559
Err wouldn't that like raise a red flag.

They would thing oh gosh what if these personal problems resurface again.

But what would I know?

>>12986647
>Thankfully my mother is quite ill

Listen to yourself!

>>12986906
Because consensus doesn't have to be formed just by friends...

>>12986615

Me2

Shameful

Reminder

>>12986936
True on the red flag thing. I guess I'll have to try my hardest to make it sound like it was a one time issue but at the same time make it sound personal enough that the employer would not try to pry into the issue.

>>12985038
It's more like you cannot be a hikki if you aren't a NEET. If you have a job (unless you work from home), by definition you cannot be a hikikomori.

Yes being a NEET doesn't automatically make you one. Pretty certain that to get welfare you'd have to go every now and then to Hello Work and hikkis wouldn't do that either. If someone is a complete shut-in, he won't be part of any statistics, the same way you have many people in Europe that are jobless but also not claiming their benefits and thus are missing from many statistics and aren't even accounted for in the unemployment rate.

(i.e. in the UK, if you don't go to Job Centre, no more benefits and you'll magically be gone from the unemployment data. same in other major EU countries. Hence why governments try to cut/suspend benefits from as many people as they can since it's a double win for them, less benefits to pay and better employment stats.)

>>12986958
I think thats pretty hard to do.

Any Personal problem that kept you out of work for extended periods of time is gonna be a red flag no matter how you paint over it. Imo its best just to avoid it at all.

>>12986947

Oh boy.

Neet culture is an easier pursuit in Japan because of the insane doujin culture. Everyone there is a producer instead of a consumer and thus it is very easy to make a living off your works. This is starting to become a reality in the US with the indie games market opening up so widely and Patreon taking off etc so really if you have the time to dedicate yourself to a skill (art, music, programming) you can become a NEET here fairly easily as well.

However, there is a pretty big cultural issue as well, being that everyone in the US is fucking stupid and lazy

>>12986993
What would you suggest is a good way to explain away a long period of inactivity? They say honesty is a respectable trait but I doubt it is so when the honest reason is just pure laziness.

>>12987009
>when the honest reason is just pure laziness.
heh

>>12986947
I work from home on the government dole good friend.

Step it the fuck up.

>>12986947
Me on the left.

The longer you become a NEET the harder it will be to escape from it. It's like a drug, it might not seem bad at first but it'll get worse and worse as time goes by and it'll have awful effects on your future.

Wow this thread has hit bump limit.

Time for new thread!

>>12987100
Please wait until it's off page 0

>>12987115
Its off page 0 now.

>>12987100
Please don't wait until it's off page 0 to get out of /jp/

>>12987145
You can easily get 200+ more replies before it falls off page 9.

>>12987158
pls no bully

>>12987100
Please don't make another thread until a decent amount of time has passed after this one dies. We don't need another general.

>>12987100
Ok don't forget the back ref and FAQ links

>>12986936
shameful indeed but I don't feel bad at all....
>>12986947
kek, I hate going outside and almost all my "free" time is wasted on anime and mobas.
>>12986966
It's more like you cannot be a hikki if you aren't a NEET. If you have a job (unless you work from home), by definition you cannot be a hikikomori.
>I think this sentence is wroing.
>>12987008
They stop being NEET's and become "Creators".
>>12987078
I'm confused anon, what future ?

>>12987485
>shameful indeed but I don't feel bad at all....
How. Don't shame and feeling bad go hand in hand?

>>12987529
At first I hated myself and was angry all the time, eventually you accept your fate as social scum and even if you know that this is wrong and you are a piece of caca, you accept it and are happy to live the NEET life.

>>12976529
>How long have you been one?
6 years. I dropped out of high school at 17.
>Why are you a NEET?
Getting out of bed each day is hard enough.
>Longest time without going outside?
I've never really timed it.. a few months? I avoid it as much as possible; Buy most things online, etc.
>How much time you think you can keep this up and what are you going to do next?
Eh. I don't know.

>>12976529
>How long have you been one ?
I guess for about three years now. I dicked around at a community college for about two years as a part time student after I got out of high school before realizing that I am too stupid for higher education and just kind of stopped.
>Why are you a NEET?
Two reasons. First, I am lazy. Second, I am afraid of change, especially if that change takes away my lazy but joyful days of doing whatever I want.
>Longest time without going outside?
Usually a few days. I may be NEET but I am not a hikkikomori.
>How much time you think you can keep this up and what are you going to do next?
I fear that I may have to give up this happy lifestyle before the end of the year. I may be lazy but I do not half ass things when I finally decide to do something. I will probably try to join the military or something. I am sure that everything will work out just fine no matter what happens.

>>12976529
>How long
A year, on and off
>Why
Don't know what to do with my life + literal brain problems
>Longest time holed up inside
2 days
>How long you gonna keep at this
I quit this bitch today
>What are you gonna do now
I want to write for a living

Please fill out the form, /jp/.

Age:
Sex:
Gender:
NEET status:
Autism bucks? If yes, list amount per year:

>>12988439

Why is there a field for sex AND gender unless you mean if we're virgins or had sex before. I'm gonna assume its the latter.

Age: 26.5
Sex: N
Gender: M
NEET status: Wageslavery for now. NEET in the foreseeable future for life.
Autism bucks? Too "normie" for autismbuxs.

>>12976529
>How long ?
4 years.
>Why?
I took notice of my own stupidity and lack of social skills.
>Longest time without going outside?
3 months in vacation period just when I decided to shut myself in my apartment.
>How much time left, whats next?
I have about 7 months left of savings, after this I'll probably commit sudoku.
>>12988439
Age: 22 Sex: M / Straight
NEET status: ?? Full time ??
Autism bucks:None, income comes from previous savings.

>>12988439
Age: 30
Sex: Male and not a virgin
Gender: Male
NEET status: NEET for three years.
Autism bucks: Going through the long process of getting disability for paranoid schizophrenia.

>>12988439
Age: 23
Sex: Male
Gender: Genderfluid 70M 30F
NEET status: 4 years
Autism bucks? If yes, list amount per year: No, too lazy to "fake" a disability. Uncle Remus' guide makes it look like a lot of work and acting.

>>12988439
Age: 23
Sex: Male
Gender: Genderfluid 70M 30F
NEET status: 4 years
Autism bucks? If yes, list amount per year: No, too lazy to "fake" a disability. Uncle Remus' guide makes it look like a lot of work and acting.

>>12976529
>How long have you been one ?
3 years, dropped out of high school at 16
>Why are you a NEET?
going to high school was bad enough with my anxiety
>Longest time without going outside?
a month
>How much time you think you can keep this up and what are you going to do next?
I'll keep this up until my mom kicks me out, I play counter strike at a semi pro level (for na atleast) maybe that will work out

where is the new thread?

>>12988817

They were all bullying the heck out of me not to create a new thread.

>>12987115
>>12987145
>>12987158
>>12987164
>>12987175
>>12987176

It was like high school all over again.

So I'm not gonna make a new thread.

Someone else will need to.

a brand new day

>>12987115
>>12987145
>>12987158
Page 0 doesn't exist anymore

>>12975244
What did she do to you exactly

>>12988439
Age:19
Sex: virgin
Gender:M
NEET status: 6 months
Autism bucks? If yes, list amount per year: no, living off savings until I join the army

>tfw bought some super cheap beer and drinking myself into a haze while watching anime

>>12980817
Me too. Except although my mother was overbearing I still had to care for her emotionally a lot because during my formative years she was an absolute wreck. Much better now but much of the damage has been done. Father left when I was 3.

>>12985978
It's a fairly popular beer in the UK

>>12988439
>age
18
>sex
virgin
>Gender
male
>NEET status
1.5 years and counting
>Autism bucks
JSA £200/month

>>12988439
>Age: 28

>Sex: Male

>Gender: Loser

>NEET status: wannabe student, dropping out 3rd time soon

>Autistm bucks: No, too much of a hassle to get tested and apply...too many hurdles

>tfw about to eat a pot noodle and watch some anime

NEETlyf is best life

>>12988439
I demand to know why you're making a distinction between gender and sex. Did you mean sexual orientation?

>>12988439
Why do you put sex then gender? It's basically the same question to anyone who isn't a mentally damaged degenerate.

>>12985502
My college must be even more mediocre. My GPA was 3.4/4.0. It could also be that the level competition in this city is too intense.

I'm going to bombard you with questions just because. Did you already have experience somewhere, like internships or volunteer work? What job agency did you sent your resume around? Do you have 150 credits and are CPA ready? Are your cover letters really good? Are you doing taxation? Did you get the job just before tax season started or did you literally graduate recently?

I'm assuming you are telling the truth. And by omitting the type of currency in the salary you stated, you are probably also in the US.

And, no, if I could do it I probably would have.

>>12988439
>How long have you been one?
4 years. I stopped going to school after I turned 14.
>Why are you a NEET?
Staying motivated is difficult and I'm practically retarded.
>Longest time without going outside?
A year.
>How much time you think you can keep this up and what are you going to do next?
I doubt this is something I'll be able to keep up forever.

>>12988439
34
M
M
Autism
No

Today I realized that I've no longer think much, just live day by day watching someone else's creations. I guess that something like this happens to the japanese NEETs + hikkikomoris, when your back is against the wall either you fight back or simply give up.

>>12992105
If only the enemy was a tangible one that could literally be fought against.

>>12992371
Its yourself

>>12992473
I had a bad feeling that the answer would be suicide.

>>12975557
Condensed:
Too soon old, too late smart.
(And:)
Youth is wasted on the young.

Currently working in Japan and dreaming of the NEET days I lived for a few months.

Is the grass actually greener on the other side or do you NEETs wish you had a purpose/money.
All I feel I want is time, lots of time. Time to do nothing without feeling like there are any obligations.

I wish I could get a work from home/contractual job but it's just too hard while being here and not having fluent Japanese. If I stopped working full-time I'd just end up starving to death in the cold.

>>12993286
Oh, right, bump limit
I'm alone here now

>>12993306
Not really

crossies left once they didn't know how to find the thread anymore.

>>12993286
How good is your Japanese? How did you find your way to Japan? What do you do there, teach English?

>>12992105
I think it's a very pathetic existence to make your life out of enjoying other people's works. I want to become an artist of some sort some day, but I need to develop ideas and artistic skill.

>>12992610
This is acctually starting to look more and more appealing.
>>12993730
Then keep working anon it will get hard but don't give up or else my life is what's waiting for you.

jpees.

We're on page 10

>>12993709
Conversational level, around N2. Enough to do what I need but not enough for working proficiency.

I program, if you look around there's a company or two that recruit internationally and you can get flown to japan from just Skype interviews.

>>12995081
I knew I should have just stuck to computer science. Maybe I can still build a portfolio but I would rather go back to trying to make games.

Is working there really bad? What do you mean not for working proficiency? Is that like appealing to your bosses?

Also that sounds really good but it probably isn't easy to get hired.

>>12995035
take it easy

>>12995370
You take it easy, nerd

>>12995577
pls b nice!

>>12995593
No.

This is literally the second last thread on the board now.

>>12995850
Last thread now!

>>12995850
>>12995863

>>12996016
;_;

someone please make a new thread

>>12996085
No. Wait a decent number of hours after it dies. We do not need another general.

>>12996198
I agree with you but this "general" predates most of the current ones.

Where did all the tax accountants go?

>>12996594

What?

Why is it so hard to make a new thread?

>>12963628

staying up all night cuz neet ;^)