/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>Noble Works - 37,473 / 57,690 (64.9%) lines translated, partial patch released
Nursery Rhyme - 2406/33014 lines translated
Oreimo PSP - 100% translated, 239/299 through TLC+Editing, 217/299 scripts finalized, Kirino + Ayase partial patch released
Oreimo Tsuzuku - 199/268 scripts translated, 78/268 through TLC+Editing, 66/268 scripts finalized
PersonA - 42% translated
Princess Maker 5- 86.06% lines translated, 32.91% of lines finalized
Rance 5D - 40% translated
>Rance Quest - 19.60% messages and 97.16% strings translated, 13/198 quests finished
Rewrite Harvest Festa - 7954/30040 (26.48%) lines translated
Rose Guns Days 3+4 - 100% translated and 60% edited
>SakuSaku - Common route + Konami route fully translated, 26590/49257 (54%) lines translated, 22891/49257 (46%) lines finalized, Konami + Mio route released
Sanarara R - 15/124 scripts translated
Sayonara wo Oshiete - 4269/14309 (29.8%) lines translated
Sonicomi - 984/18196 (5.2%) lines translated
SonoHana 10 - Being translated
SonoHana 11 - Being translated
SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 50371/53290 (94.5%) lines translated and 40597/53290 (76.2%) lines edited
Supreme Candy - ~14573/43261 (~33.7%) lines translated
Tasogaredoki no Kyoukaisen - 100% translated, in editing
To Heart2- 67% translated- "The final product is still years away unless I get more help. ", new alpha patch released
Ushinawareta Mirai wo Motomete - 4282/35056 (12.2%) lines translated
Witch's Garden - 17676/67201 (26.30%) lines translated, prologue patch released
White Album 2 - Opening chapter fully translated with a "rough patch", Closing Chapter: 3110/35275 (8.81%) lines translated
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 76.12%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 89.73%, Motoka 31.40%, Common and Kazuha fully edited

Official work

MangaGamer
Eden - Jan 30th release
No Thank You - Beta complete, demo released
Princess Evangile - Beta complete
Yome no Imouto to no Inai - Through Beta
>Kara no Shoujo 2 - 97.5% translated, 22.1% edited
>Bokuten - 50.4% translated, 10.1% edited
>Da Capo 3 - Prologue + Ch. 0 complete, Common route 69.5% translated, overall 33.5%
>Higurashi (retranslation) - 14.5% of Watanagashi TL, Onikakushi in QC
Gahkthun - 52.5% translated, 18.9% edited
OZMAFIA - 16.2% translated
>Euphoria - 78.8% translated, 69.5% edited
>House in Fata Morgana - 30.3% translated
Free Friends - Fully translated and edited
Free Friends 2 - 16% translated, 16% edited
Supipara - Intend to fund through Eden's sales

JAST
Hanachirasu - Feb 10th release
Starless - March 10th release
Shiny Days - Translation finished, in editing/timing, 2015 release
Seinarukana- Fully translated, being tested and edited
Raidy III - TL finished, in insertion
Django - Couple more months of translation
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Trample on Schatten- translation about half done
Sweet Home - In translation
Sumeragi Ryoko - Picked up

Sekai Project
>World End Economica- Chapter 2 Spring
Fault -milestone one- - Released
Grisaia trilogy - Kickstarter ongoing
Clannad - Kickstarter finished
WAS Lepidoptera no Sunadokey - Kickstarter finished
Fault Milestone 2 - picked up

Other
Moenovel is working on another title
Eiyuu Senki - PS3 version picked up
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed
Wish Tale of the Sixteenth Night - Kickstarter planned
Harvest December - 3DS ports being released
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

>We won't ever get to read the second Demonbane game in English

Being an EOP sucks

Oh boy! Can't wait for Sumaga!

And Seinarukana.

>>12950583
Now that Makoto's quit and nobody's in charge of non-Nitro+ projects, look forward to even more delays!

>>12950595
I thought Makoto is still working for JAST, he's just not managing projects and editing everything they do anymore.

>>12950488
>>World End Economica- Chapter 2 Spring
Wasn't it by the end of 2014?
Sekai lied.
/jp/ cried

>>12950753
>/jp/ cried
No. Most people here don't give a shit about it.

>>12950760
I'm sure it'll be amazing now that they have an even worse translator and no editors working on it.

>>12950753
I'm not looking forward to anything coming from sekai.

>>12950760
Well. I cried. But it was more to do with Moot leaving

>>12950510
you could always learn japanese

>>12950806
日本語は難し
お前は俺が先輩に見えたか？ごめんなさい、でも残念でした。
俺は君の理想を負担しないぞ。私なし行くへ、名無しさん。泣くないで、俺はも死んでいる

>Kara no Shoujo 2 - 97.5% translated, 22.1% edited
>Mahoutsukai no Yoru - 100% translated. Good editor wanted.
>Princess Maker 5- 86.06% lines translated, 32.91% of lines finalized
>Sayonara wo Oshiete - 4269/14309 (29.8%) lines translated
>SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 50371/53290 (94.5%) lines translated and 40597/53290 (76.2%) lines edited

Waiting warmly.

>>12950488
>Da Capo 3 - Prologue + Ch. 0 complete, Common route 69.5% translated, overall 33.5%
Will Da Capo ever reach the light of day?

Wasn't JAST or someone translating Full Metal Daemon Muramasa? What happened to it?

>>12951516
That was Makoto. He put that on hold to work on Django. Then he put Django on hold to work on basically everything else JAST is doing.

>>12951315
あなたは何を約とりとめていますか？あなたは私の先輩、雌犬だと思う？あなたは無名の人物である。日本人は習得が容易である。私は私の睡眠でそれを学ぶことができます。

I would like to remind you to complete the MangaGamer 2015 Licensing Survey.

>docs.google.com/forms/d/13a8QHOhDX44j6O22EsN3L73AwNTezr22gnWfIlRNAig/viewform

Remember to ask for VNs that haven't been already translated. Don't ask for VNs that have been licensed by JAST or other companies. And for the love of god, don't ask for more nugikes.

Some suggestions: Dies irae, Oretsuba, ChuSinGura 46+1, Albatross Koukairoku, White Album 2, Akatsuki no Goei, Baldr Sky, Material Brave or Soukoku no Arterial (if you like some gameplay).

You may think this is a waste of time, but it really isn't. It will take you five minutes.

Don't let tumblr kids decide what to publish next.

>>12951693
>Material Brave or Soukoku no Arterial
Ugh.

>>12951693
>nugikes

I obviously meant nukiges. I will now commit sudoku.

>>12950484
>>Clover Day
Every god damned week this triggers my autism. It's Clover Day's. Please fix it.

>>12951693
>Dies irae
>english translation
>by mg

>>12951693
>Dies irae
Light turned Makoto down for Dies forever ago, anon

The most useless thread in this board.

>>12952073
the most useless post in this thread

>>12951693
Dies irae, Oretsuba, Albatross Koukairoku should not ever be translated, but I'm sure you're aware of that.

>>12950510
>Demonbane
Wow, this piece of shit has sequel?

I'm on a boat, I'm on a boat.
Everybody look at me
'Cause I'm sailing on a boat.
I'm on a boat, I'm on a boat.
Take a good hard look
At the motherfucking boat.

Ded scene

I hope you had the same answers.

>>12952225
I voted for Shin Koihime Musou at least.

>>12951693
Well, my votes were for
>Iroseka
>Kiminozo
>Tsuriotsu

On the existing partners section, I chose
>Clock Up
>minori
>BaseSon
>Liar-soft
>Navel

Main qualities on a VN
>Interesting story
>Catchy music
>Appealing art

On the additional comments I finished by saying
>Your loli mascot seems much more friendly and cute than the adult one. Please do something about it

>>12950488
>Gahkthun - 52.5% translated, 18.9% edited
Did something happen with Koestl? I don't see updates on Gahkthun for a few weeks already.

>Free Friends - Fully translated and edited~
>Free Friends 2 - 16% translated, 16% edited
These projects are on hold. The translated script was trash (done by YukkuriS) so it was deleted and Noesis closed doors. I wonder what will happen to these projects.

>>12951693
>Don't let tumblr kids decide what to publish next.
Steam audience will decide what gets translated once they all get a taste of the steam bux.

>>12952345
To Love-Ru VN coming right up

>>12952345
Most mainstream titles would likely be too expensive for MangaGamer to license.

Does Aroduc ever do anything besides whining?

>>12952225
Why would Mangagamer see herkz? They only work with competent people.

>>12952119
Well, that post encourages me to pick those three myself. Thanks.

Also, I'd like to request Totono, but JAST would have that one already, huh?

>>12952481
Doesn't matter, they won't be chosen. But go ahead.

>>12952508
I don't know if I want Oretsuba though. Might replace it with Bullet Butlers or Scarlett. Thoughts?

>>12952345
I wonder if we'll ever see any VN studios being pioneering enough to publish on steam themselves.
A lot of bigger japanese studios have opened their eyes for steam, maybe they'll follow.

>>12952575
We have seen that. With American studios.

>>12952542
I don't particularly care about those two. Between those three, Oretsuba is the best, but a translation just won't work for it. It will still be good though. I guess I'd ask for Scarlett.

>>12952608
Thanks, I'll quote you on that.

>>12952620
Ok, whatever that means.

Personally I asked for Baldr Sky Dive1+2, Aiyoku no Eustia, and WA2. They first two are extremely translatable worked, and even the latter would work well in English as long as the translator is skilled.

>>12952476
Actually, if I remember correctly it was herkz that edited Gahkthun OP. He tweeted something about it at the time.

>>12952225
>>12952235

I don't know what you guys see in Koihime Musou. It seems like a (very) generic game to me.

>>12952691
Herkz wanted to edit Gahkthun but couldn't even pass the editing test hah. See the chat logs.

>>12952691
He's a known liar who thinks everything is a meme, so I'm not so sure about that.

>>12952709
Read it.

>>12952644
It means it will be reprinted on the cover of a book, among other things. This quote will become famous.

I almost forgot about Baldr Sky, damn. Three is too few to ask for. I haven't sent it in yet, maybe I'll replace one or both of the others. Gee, this plan sure turned out well.

>>12952724
To be honest, screenshots like this one don't inspire me much confidence.

>>12952709
Generic is a pretty empty buzzword that usually gets used in situations where it does not remotely apply.

>>12952740
Either you read it so you can form an actual non-shallow opinion, or you're going to keep posting here about how you understand everything and that you don't need to read it.

>>12952286
>Main qualities on a VN
>Interesting story
>Catchy music
>Appealing art

You're a man of good taste

>>12952748
I just value my time. I understand that there are visual novels that offer much more than what they may seem to do, but I value the plot above all other things.

That woman on the left is a red flag in my book.

When the main character wakes up, he finds a nurse sucking his dick. "What!?" He also finds himself wearing girls' clothing. "Oh, it seems your fever hasn't passed off yet? How about this completely erected dick...?" He doesn't know what's going on, but she just smiles and kisses on his dick, "Good morning, my heroine."

>>12952735
Looking forward to it. Who will you attribute the quote to though? "Random anon, VNTS #4, 2015"?

Well, if you really can't decide, you could always put the ones that are left in the 'any notes?' section.

>>12952748
Hey, that's what they do on /lit/, after all.

>>12952755
Mind telling me what have you read thus far? I could use a laugh.
That screenshot is from Shin, by the way. The sequel which is never getting translated.

>>12952157
Why do you hate fun so much anon?

>>12952766
I like reading novels from time to time. That's it.

>>12952763
Yes, that sounds good. Or I will make up a name, which will be fun in its own way. Naturally, the book has nothing to do with the quote.

And that is a good idea, I guess I will drop a couple in there. I'll settle for that and try not to overload it.

>>12952774
That's not really an answer to what I asked.

>>12952769
He also hates learning English properly, which I think goes hand in hand with hating fun.

>>12952755
Honestly, it takes next to no time to download the game, completely for free, and at least read a bit of it. I really cannot imagine you are doing anything THAT important with your time if you are here posting in this thread, so you don't have much of an excuse.

>>12951693
Why is Mangagamer asking me if I knew about new releases from 4chan? Are they trying to filter out my response because they assume I'm a filthy pirate who never buys a game? (Well, they would be right, of course, but it's still rude as hell)

>>12952805
Unlike most people, they recognize that 4chan is actually a good site for spreading news and not just a pirate site. I mean, if you're a pirate, you'd already have said you didn't buy any of their games.

>>12952813
>>12952805
Is there anyone who didn't answer 6+ to the "how many MG titles have you bought" question? Don't you want them to be happy?

>>12952821
Why would lying to them make them happy? After all, they would take a step back and look at their sale numbers if they noticed that they should have made three times their current profit according to some poll results...

>>12952805
>Are they trying to filter out my response because they assume I'm a filthy pirate who never buys a game?
Not all 4chan users are pirates and MG is aware of that. For example, I buy VNs. Now the more important question is how many 4chan users actually buy VNs which is something that MG would only know by using ads here.

>>12952821
I legitimately bought 6 games from MG last year.

I said I wanted more games from lilith and put kangoku senkan 2 down. fight me irl nerds.

I loved Katawa Shoujo but couldn't get into Little Busters or Clannad. Any other VNs similar to KS?

>>12952918
The walking dead.

>>12952899
Are you rich? They don't even have six good titles, so I don't see why you would go that far unless you had money to burn.

>>12952931
Buying 6 MG titles is like buying one figma.

>>12952931
If I was rich I'd attempt to get involved on the VN market.
MG games aren't that much expensive. Last year I bought
>Eden
>Space Pirate Sara
>ef Limited Edition
>Cartagra
>Edelweiss Bundle pack
>KiraKira
>ImoPara
I need to learn how to count. I didn't only buy 6 games

can I go back and change my survey answers after I submitted the form?

>>12952931
That's all a matter of opinion, and for dissing others, yours is shit.

>>12952821
I bought 2.

>>12951693
>Some suggestions: Dies irae, Oretsuba, ChuSinGura 46+1, Albatross Koukairoku, White Album 2, Akatsuki no Goei, Baldr Sky, Material Brave or Soukoku no Arterial (if you like some gameplay).
I did this a couple days ago, I said White Album 2, Baldr Sky and Idolm@ster

>>12953296
>Idolm@ster
That's not going to happen.

>>12953321
I know.

>>12953321
Has anyone tried to just sell this stuff from Japan?
Instead of licensing for official sale overseas bamco could just sell translation as overpriced DLC.
Similarly VN producers could just put a bilingual version for sale on DMM. That way sales happen in Japan, following Japanese law.
Skirt around voice actor contracts and music licenses that has clauses for oversea sales and what not... But I suppose that would break copyright laws or whatever.

>>12953396
That sounds like a good idea, but I doubt it'd work out very well. The only English-speaking people who'd buy iM@S like that are those already in Japan, and those who will go the extra step of getting into the JP store. I don't think it'd be worth it for Namco to put in the effort of making translation, when most likely a small number of people will buy it. If it were to happen, I would think the translation would come out as some mangled machine-translated garbage.

Would there be any money if any of the Infinity games were brought over?
With the (moderate) success of titles like 999 and Ace Attorney in the west, there could be some profit, right?
Or does ever17's poor initial release, Hirameki's potential ownership of publishing rights, and age of the product make it seem like a task of futility

>>12953743
Weren't 999 and VLR more popular over here than in Japan? They could do well with the people that want more of the dead Zero Escape games.. The lack of puzzles is a problem though. Maybe a cheaper release on steam and the playstation store would work.

https://aokanatranslation.wordpress.com/2015/01/20/translation-update-new-beginnings/ ?????? What the fuck Sekai

>>12953903
>hiring Fuwanovel 'translators'

Sasuga, Sekai.

>>12953925
> //<0194>「はい。メイドが務める喫茶店でそのような習いがあるとかで、参考にいたしました」
>// Yes. It seems the maids are taught this at the cafe they work at, and I used them as a reference.

>「サービスで、オムライスにハートマークを描いたりするそうですよ」
>// It seems they also do things like drawing a heart on your omelette rice as a service.

>//<0171>「それ、ネットで見たことあります。電気街にあるお店ですよね」
>//I've seen that on the internet before. There's a shop like that in the electronics district.

Sasuga Sekai Project indeed.

>>12953743
Ever17 has been on steamdb for a while now.
https://steamdb.info/app/200090/

Basically it's been there just rotting in the backend for a year, but I'm slightly optimistic that something might be happening soon given the recent explosion of VNs on Steam.

>>12953939
>reading a noun as a verb conjugated bizarrely
>not understanding wasei
>not understanding object references

99% sure that's edited machine translation.

>>12954003
So it'll be more accurate than YukkuriS and Trantez then, and have fewer typos.

That's a significant step up for SP.

>>12952467
Sometime he trolls.

>>12954003
isn't that all fuwanovel does?

>>12954073
No. Fault wasn't edited at all.

>>12952119
Good god stop with this shit. Literature by Kawabata, Tanizaki, Soseki and many more have been translated for decades and they are significantly more complex. Don't hold these titles up to a pedestal because moogy said they were untranslatable due to kanji puns and big words.

>>12952913
Sounds good Anon. I'm still pissed about that one.failing.

Personally, I only put gameplay VNs.

>>12954092
But Moogy is the Messiah of VNs.

>>12954092
Niech ułoży wiersz o cyberotyce! - rzekł nagle, rozjaśniony. - Żeby tam było najwyżej sześć linijek, a w nich o miłości i o zdradzie, o muzyce, o Murzynach, o wyższych sferach, o nieszczęściu, o kazirodztwie, do rymu i żeby wszystkie słowa były tylko na literę C!!

Kandel was a goddamned genius. Obviously, not fair to expect anything on his level from untrained visual novel amateur translators, but very little is untranslatable.

>>12952755
What does reading about a sexy milf have anything to do with the writing? Why because shes not a shitty loli? and actually has a body?

>>12953854
Yes, by a large margin. 9% of sales were in Japan.
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/35973/999-nine-hours-nine-persons-nine-doors/
It is true that there is a lack of puzzles. And adding puzzles could be shoehorned in, I am thinking of the steam room in particular, or the various "games" that were played in Ever 17.
I don't think they would do that, as when they tried to go back and add content (like the original endings to Remember 11), they forgot what they had planned to do in the first place.

>>12953997
Who owns the rights to Ever17 now?
And wasn't Halo 3 even on that site?

>>12954390
5pb does I believe, at least, they published/developed the 360 version. Although the site itself seems to suggest it had something to do with Cyberfront, which has since gone out of business.

All 3 Halos were there, there were also official game groups for them on Steam for a while. I assume that plans for a steam port were scrapped with the announcement of the Master Chief Collection. good vns though

>>12951693
Oretsuba, WA2, and Baldr Sky seem like solid choices. I will vote for those.

What I want is more boxed options from MG though, I would like a box of KnS2 or some collector's edition which has Cartagra, KnS and KnS2 included in it.

>>12951693
Im doing this now, what company is Dies irae and Baldr Sky from?

>>12954653
Dies irae is from Light - https://vndb.org/p242
Baldr Sky is from Giga - https://vndb.org/p119

Use VNDB next time.

Giga is never happening. Jast talked to them years ago and they wanted an outrageous amount of money. Your best bet was Alchemist's ports which they hold the right to. Dovac had a chance for them, but he fucked up negotiations for them so legendarily badly that they've shut that down completely.

>>12952805

If a lot of people actually answered 4chan, they might join Jlist in buying some banners

>>12951693
Alright i put Dies irae, Baldr Sky,and white album 2. How many of us are putting that? we should all do it.
>>12954683
I checked myself yeah.

>>12954685
>Dovac had a chance for them, but he fucked up negotiations for them so legendarily badly that they've shut that down completely.
Anon, you can't say that and don't share the juicy details.

>>12954694
I actually don't have that much interest on Dies irae due do some of its themes. But given what I read I'm convinced it's a great VN. Just not really my type.

>>12954694
I would of put that new type moon game too, would manga gamer be able to do a type moon game? Also I would of asked for root double but lemnicsa which are the best fan translators we got these days will be able to get that out faster and better anyway.

>>12954725
I don't know the details myself, just that it went so badly that MG's partners were complaining to MG about him.

To be fair, Alchemist is a pretty asshole company and the reason behind MG's problems with the updated Higurashi sprites, but it takes some pretty colossal kind of fuck up to create those kind of ripples.

If ya'll are asking for impossible games, ask for monobeno while you're at it.

Someone put down super robot wars OG 1 and 2 and 2nd.

>>12954738
I asked for Atlach=Nacha because I'm out of control

>>12954738
Just read Monobeno description on VNDB. Can someone explain to me what does this mean?
>Natsuha's body turned into that of an adult's and her lower body bled for the first time.
>body turned into that of an adult's
>lower body bled for the first time
Isn't this a contradiction?

>>12954831
>Isn't this a contradiction?
No.

>>12951693
I voted Baldr Sky and Ikusa Megami.

And Himawari

>>12954738
I should ask for for Reika Bitch Training, Kusari, and France Shoujo.

>>12954844
If that's not a contradition then Monobeno isn't illegal in the US because the description implies that an "adult" (not underage) character for some reason bleds for the first time. I understand this as being the first menstruation. However, then we get the art where that character is pretty much depicted as a child.
I think that it's not literally impossible to see an eventual Monobeno localization but I believe that it's extremely unlikely to see it because there's not a lot of ground to defend that character as being of legal age.
Anyway, I gotta admit I'd love to play Monobeno sometime.

An upload of Secret Sorrow of the Siblings never.

damn I keep thinking of better games I could have put in my survey submission. in my defense though asagi 3 probably has a better chance of actually happening than ikusa megami or white album.

>>12954934
I think you're having a reading comprehension failure. She was a loli -> she suddenly turns into an adult -> because she now has an adult body, she has her first period. Natsuha spends a large part of the game looking like she's in her late teens or early 20s (while acting like she's about 7).

And yeah, they don't really make an effort to pretend that she's of age, and on top of that the game is really long and licensing costs would probably be high thanks to the fully voiced protagonist, so don't expect an official localization ever.

>>12953903
What the fuck? At this point only logical reason behind this shit is that dovac is doing this on purpose, he's trying to produce ultimate shittiest translation and shove it down steam-tards.

>>12955050
I honestly can't even blame Dovac at this point. It's abundantly clear that no one gives any sort of shit whatsoever about translation quality, so you might as well just do whatever's cheapest and easiest. If that means hiring Fuwanovel retards and arming them with Google Translate, why the fuck not? People will buy it regardless.

>>12953939
There is literally nothing wrong with these translations, stop picking on them, you guys don't deserve any translations!!!!!

Fuck off!!!!!!

>>12955097
Go away, ironic Fuwa poster

>>12955122
Do you even know what's wrong with them?????

NO?????

FUCK OFF!!!!!!!

>>12954596
>I would like a box of KnS2 or some collector's edition which has Cartagra, KnS and KnS2 included in it.

Yeah it would be great. Some kind of package for the InnoGrey titles. Pls MG hears our prayers.

Is it that the English speaking markets are much smaller.
Or is it actually more expensive to localize a title than it is to make one from scratch?

>>12951693
Caucasus, Mahoyo and White Album 2.
Why everyone is interested by Dies irae (more like diarrhea amirite) ?
God, don't make shitty suggestions like this.
At least you can suggest Baldr Sky but not a fucking chuu2 story.

>>12954822
Me too. Truly we are bad people.

>>12955133
Calm down.

What are you, an 11 year old pwning n00bs on Xbox live?

>>12954822
Atlach=Nacha is more fucked up than Euphoria in a way.

>>12955015
Please excuse me while I'll commit sudoku for not realizing this.

>>12955170
I wonder how many people doing the survey aren't that familiar with VNs and are just voting for what others tell them are good? That could really skew the results for what titles are actually popular.

>>12955170
I specifically asked for more chuuni in the comments field because I'm a bad person.

I didn't put any games into slot in the survey because it seems like a futile endeavor.

>>12955216

You won't get anywhere if you never try, Anonymous!

That's why you ended up on /jp/ in the first place!

>>12955193
Doddler was amazed by how many people suggested Grisaia in the survey.
What do you want to add ? We are doomed.
I love you anons but our community is full of damn normalfag.
I'm sure that the results of the survey will be a disaster. A bunch of nukige, BL and overrated titles like Grisaia or G-Senjou.

What ever happened to Touka no Gettan and YamiBou?

>>12955170
>don't make shitty suggestions like this
>Caucasus

The irony.

>>12955183
Then why don't you tell me what the fucking issues with those sentences is?????

>>12955349
> //<0194>「はい。メイドが務める喫茶店でそのような習いがあるとかで、参考にいたしました」
>// Yes. It seems the maids are taught this at the cafe they work at, and I used them as a reference.
This one's a complete disaster. Mistranslated both とか as "it seems" when it should be something like "for example" or "things like" and 習い as "are taught" when it should be "is common practice." Lastly, it should be "a cafe where maids serve you" or something along those lines, not a place where maids go to work.

>「サービスで、オムライスにハートマークを描いたりするそうですよ」
>// It seems they also do things like drawing a heart on your omelette rice as a service.
"Service" in Japanese != "Service" in English. It's not a service, it's a bonus or a treat. Not sure where "they also do" came from. It might be okay in context, but it's not there in the Japanese.

>//<0171>「それ、ネットで見たことあります。電気街にあるお店ですよね」
>//I've seen that on the internet before. There's a shop like that in the electronics district.
Mistranslated 電気街 as electronics district when it should be electric district, which is the nickname for Akihabara, or basically "trendy downtown." The second sentence is a question, not an assertion. "like that" is made up. お店 is mistranslated as shop when it should be cafe as previously established. お店 can refer to all kinds of things that Americans would not call shops at all, including restaurants and clubs.

But you're just shitposting, so let's hear that "all that matters is I can read it" or "close enough" or "that's just your interpretation."

>>12955349

Do you really need all the caps lock and the excessive amount of question and exclamation marks?

>>12955356
that's just your interpretation, all that matters is I can read it, it's close enough.

>>12951693
Kuro no Danshou instead of Innocent Grey shit, please.

>>12952711
Maybe you should link them instead.

>>12955356
Sad thing is that this is still probably better than what SP has released so far

So am I the only who suggested a better website on the survey? How long does it even last for anyway?

>>12955479
I chose that one too. As for the survey, it'll run for 2 weeks from the date it went up, which was the 22nd IIRC.

>>12955193
>I wonder how many people doing the survey aren't that familiar with VNs and are just voting for what others tell them are good?
Everyone?
There's no reason for people who know Japanese and have actually played the games to vote.

>>12955596
Not necessarily.
There are games that I've played in moon that I'd like to see receive quality translations and be enjoyed by others.

>>12955625
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I meant people blindly voting for titles just because someone mentioned it being one of the best VNs out there.

If the person did any research on a title, such as looking at its vndb page and deciding it's something they'd probably be interested in, then I don't take any issue with that.

>>12955596
> There's no reason for people who know Japanese and have actually played the games to vote.
I've played all games I've asked to license. There are plenty of reasons for it:
1) Expansion in western market generates new revenue for original developer and lets them make better new games, which in turn affects me.
2) Proper translation would increase amount of people I can discuss my favourite worlds with, and wouldn't let fuwanovel/hongfire-grade "fans" to ruin them.

>>12955596
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I meant people blindly voting for titles just because someone mentioned it being one of the best VNs out there.

If the person did any research on a title, such as looking at its vndb page and deciding it's something they'd probably be interested in, then I don't take any issue with that.

>>12955187
That just makes me want it more.

>World End Economica
nice

>>12955420
>Innocent Grey shit

I have no idea what that garbage is but I doubt it's better than IG.

>>12951693
I put down DameKoi, Qualia and Akatsuki no Goei. I can dream, right?

I also kind of cheated and mentioned in the comments section that I'd like to see them license Seven-Bridge and Yurirei-san.

>>12956494
>I can dream, right?
All three are ordinary games, so I don't see why it would be a "dream".

>>12955694
Oh. In that case I amend my answer to "almost everyone." Even most people on /jp/ just go by what they hear other people say is good.

>>12956506
akatsuki no goei would be almost as hard to translate as dies irae

>>12956595
Was this supposed to be "irony" or something?
Akagoei is easier than most moege (well, actually, all of them but Shuumatsuron ARE moege, there's no plot). There's some manzai language-specific jokes which aren't too easy to translate, but this kind of stuff exists in almost every game to some extent.

this poped out of fucking nowhere:
https://vndb.org/v16448

>>12956760
Based Blick Winkel and other anons that helped with the translation.

>>12955320
1v1 me rust no knife

>>12955479
I mentioned the website on the comments section as well as other things. Some of MG staff seem to want to improve the website but getting the higher ups to agree is complicated.
The survey lasts for two weeks.

>>12956760
Finished it. Really cute. If anyone is interested and hasn't watched the anime, make sure to do so before reading this addition.

Update on Kikokugai 2011 remake localization.

>1.2mb/2.6mb inserted and edited.
>changed the font and revised inserted text to fit the textboxes better.

I did finish translating and editing the menu art, but it looks awful.
I've begun re-creating the menu from scratch, pixel perfect; instead of editing the existing one.

Still on track for a release this weekend, given that my personal life doesn't flare up.

>>12957256
Thanks for your efforts.

>>12952575
We had one, indirectly: Moenovel is a branch of original developer Pulltop, and a long time after the original release of If My Heart Had Wings they put it on Steam. I'm not aware of any other publishers releasing English-translated titles by themselves, let alone on Steam.

>>12953396
>>12953674
>Instead of licensing for official sale overseas bamco could just sell translation as overpriced DLC.
Though I've never seen it as DLC, I have seen Japanese games feature dual language (Japanese/English) before, primarily Phoenix Wright for DS and some of the Yu-Gi-Oh! games. Apparently it does make more players import the game. No idea why they haven't experimented further with this.

>>12953743
>Would there be any money if any of the Infinity games were brought over?
Depends entirely on the marketing. The core VN fanbase wouldn't be interested in the slightest, as we already have access to them all. However, I think that if Aksys or similar would license them there would be money to be made, as only a fraction of the 999/VLR fanbase has played the infinity series titles. For a company like MangaGamer, though, they might as well just flush money down the toilet rather than wasting it in such a roundabout manner.

>>12953903
>>12953925
>>12953939
I've always been a huge Sekai supporter (supported kickstarters for fault, WAS, Clannad and Grisaia, defended them on here plenty of times) but I can only agree here: What the fuck, Sekai? They better give an explanation for this.

>>12954390
Cyberfront used to own the rights, but they went bankrupt. I haven't heard any news about the ownership of the rights so I have no clue, but 5pb would be the most likely to buy the rights (as 5pb. Games has connections to old KID, mainly lot of ex-KID staff working there).

>>12956589
Considering how many people had Grisaia as one of their choices despite it already being licensed by Sekai Project, I was starting to doubt how much people looked into their title choices. Other people online have also mentioned voting for VNs from JAST's partners, but just because JAST is slow in getting to them, doesn't mean that JAST's partners will license games to MangaGamer.

>>12957256
Watch out for JAST!

>>12954685
>Giga is never happening. Jast talked to them years ago and they wanted an outrageous amount of money.
Key is never happening. [Don't even know who it was anymore] talked to them years ago and they wanted an outrageous amount of money.

Real life negotiations don't work like in video games. What costs $100,000 to one party may cost only $10,000 to another, depending on countless different factors.

>>12955143
>Yeah it would be great. Some kind of package for the InnoGrey titles. Pls MG hears our prayers.
And who would buy it? Cartagra had poor sales, and package sales would inevitably be even worse than that.

>>12955163
>Is it that the English speaking markets are much smaller.
Yes and no. The English-speaking market's core userbase (that follow and buy the latest releases etc) is tiny compared to Japan's. However, there's a huge broader potential userbase that's difficult to reach (Aksys and the like manage to tap into them properly, Sekai is succeeding pretty well too) and there doesn't really seem to be such a thing in Japan: Either you make VNs for the hardcore VN fans or you fail commercially as you won't get enough 'mainstream' sales.

>>12956760
Mixed feelings on this. I liked Yuuki Yuuna when it was airing, but the ending really left a bad aftertaste. I liked Yuuki Yuuni at the time but I'm not sure if I want to return to it after....THAT.

>>12957325
>The English-speaking market's core userbase (that follow and buy the latest releases etc) is tiny compared to Japan's.
People want to be catered to to the same degree as the otaku in Japan with huge collectors editions and shit but they don't want to pay Japanese prices.

I still can't believe how many people wasted their votes in the survey by voting for titles associated with other localization companies. Grisaia and Muramasa are 2 of the major ones I'm aware of, but I'm sure there's lots more Nitroplus vns that people want MangaGamer to license.

>>12951693
The games I asked for were 'Root Double' and 'kamige in general'. I'm aware that Lemnisca will translate it, but I'd love to see an official release for greater exposure and an easy way to support the original developer (and the translation team if Lemnisca does it; otherwise it'll free up Lemnisca to do other interesting stuff which is also a positive thing). Well, an official release not by JAST, that is; I'd like to see it released before 2020.

For the main qualities, I selected 'Interesting story', 'Favorite genre' and entered 'Interesting/fun atmosphere'. For companies I selected 'Liar-soft' and 'Overdrive' (yeah, I loved Kira Kira, like Deardrops and am looking forward to Bokuten, though I didn't like Edelweiss and wasn't interested enough in Dengeki Stryker to check it out).

In the additional comments, I typed up a huge wall of text about
a) Why I was a loyal customer but haven't bought from MG in years (lack of good releases);
b) How I'm open to non-intrusive DRM (one-time serial activation) but not to intrusive DRM (installing shady software);
c) The fact that I'm interested in good titles by otherwise mediocre publishers like Navel's Oretsuba;
d) How I'm open to all-ages versions when the porn doesn't contribute to the story and was obviously added in because of market demand;
e) That they should make a separate mailing list for people not wanting to receive 'Buy Bukkake Ranch and Boob Wars now!'-style e-mails for nukige; and
f) Some explanations on my answers to earlier (multiple choice) questions.

Funnily enough, when it came to the 'how much did you buy' questions, I found that in the past year I've bought over 6 games but the answer to 'how many were from us' the answer was 0.

>>12955264
Touka Gettan translation has been dead since at least 2009. I was not aware a Yamibou project ever existed.

One company I've not seen mention on /jp/ is curious factory.
http://cf-create.com

They don't work specifically in VNs but they've translated ponidogs way'' among others.
http://www.dlsite.com/ecchi-eng/work/=/product_id/RE138710.html

They partnered with dlsite last year.
http://www.4gamer.net/games/999/G999905/20140213009/

They're supposed to help streamline the translation process of doujin stuff sold on dlsite.
http://www.dlsite.com/home/circle/translation

Seeing as neko para sold over 3000 on dlsite maybe there can be some interest in paid for doujin software translations?

>>12957324
Meh, I'll release it as anon.
Chances are, we'll never see an actual release from JAST, as the original engine doesn't work, nor will they spend money on licensing the remake.

If they do plan on releasing it at some point, my patch will likely fuck them over, as no one will want to play the original when you have a fancy remake with high production values to play instead.

Regardless, the game's script is identical to the original, with the exception of removed lines from the now censored h-scenes; so I'm using Makoto's translation.

They're free to use my work in any way the want, without credit or notification.

All I care about is letting more people experience one of my favorite VNs in its best form.

>>12957256
Thank you very much. I almost lost hope seeing this version localized, it's really
underrated title being written by gen urobuchi, it's certainly needs more love.

>>12957325
I didn't buy Cartagra purely because I don't want to buy digital and there wasn't a physical option.

>>12957346
Speak for yourself, I import those fancy Japanese releases for series I care about and would do the same for localised versions. I think most people though at minimum would be content with at least a box with some fancy art on. VN prices for special editions aren't crazy priced for what their are anyway compared to anime box sets so I can't image most people having issues.

>>12957447
Go import Teito Hiten and upload it for us, thanks.

>>12957447
And that's why there isn't a physical option for Cartagra. Every single person who doesn't buy it for any reason whatsoever puts it one step farther away from a physical release.

>>12957256
Waiting warmly!

>>12957848
Although I won't say that instead of supporting a company that releases a product you like you should pirate it because you don't agree with the way it was released (I don't even agree with this kind of reasoning), that's not how market works. Your argument implies that those that want a physical copy from MG should pay for the game twice. Don't you think there's something wrong with this?

>>12957256
I know it is impossible, but I wish JAST released the Phantom of Inferno remake.
Having the only option of the game be a DVD that looks like crap is really disappointing

>>12958170
I do think there is something wrong with it, but it is still a fact that mangagamer hasn't done anything about it (yet) and that the game will not get a physical release if it is not bought.

I don't really mind though because I can afford to pay 50 bucks every few months for a game I want, and I also like to give the company as much support as possible.

I simply consider the physical form an extra on top of the original anyways, a sort of limited edition, so I don't mind paying again.

>>12958217
I'm not going to pay for the game twice at full price it's as simple as that, if Mangagamer could offer me even just a 50% discount for a physical copy if it ever at all gets released then I'd gladly buy the digital copy right away but even so without either a limited edition or limited physical release it's not a high priority purchase for me to buy and I'd much rather spend my current money on JP Limited Editions or figures that I know I won't be able to get apart from at a higher price afterwards, a digital copy is always going to be there no matter when I buy it, there's a huge lack of incentive for me to buy it right away. The "anime" industry is a very collectable industry.

>>12958284
I completely agree with you. MG should regularly offer psychical versions at the same time the digital version releases.

>>12958831
It shouldn't be an issue, they could easily do it on a per order system, have preorders made to order before the release date with a deadline. that solves a lot of the problems like stock sitting about and having unsold copies.

You all seriously consider giving money to MangaGamer?

And you don't consider this a bad thing?

>>12958900
yeah

>>12958900
Why is it a bad thing to support a company that actually shows to be making an effort to deliver decently translated titles as well as releasing some games that some of us actually enjoy?
Why shouldn't you support something that you enjoy?
You have quite a childish mentality but then again, I suppose you're trying to show your amazing troll skills.

>>12958991
>>12958924

/jp/ is dead. Truly dead.

>>12958839
Yeah, and they should set a minimum amount of money that needs to be raised for printing the hardcopies to get over the initial costs of production (as the cost of producing anything is 'initial costs + cost per copy * number of copies'). Man, I wonder why there are no sites for kickstarting things like that.

But no, using Kickstarter and the like is 'unprofessional' for whatever reason, according to the people here. We have a system exactly for this, why the fuck can't companies use it? The 'indies only' sentiment towards Kickstarter just makes no sense.

>>12959034
If only you had been here to launch tirades at them every week instead of taking a three year vacation so you could come back to complain about how everything is shit... people probably still wouldn't care.

>>12958900
Have fun with your irrational worldview where effort or competence does not need to be rewarded.

>>12959037
That's not what Kickstarter is for. Kickstarter is for the production of projects, "Translations" aren't really a production for starters, they're business expansions and there can be no real stretch goals outside of fandiscs if the VN even has any because nothing is being produced or even done by the parent company. Let's not forget how extraordinaire Sekai Project's tiers were for anything with any form of limited goods and were nothing more than "Donate money to us".

>>12958900
MG is my favorite company.

>>12959037
>using Kickstarter and the like is 'unprofessional' for whatever reason, according to the people here
No. Unprofessional is the constant use of kickstarters without even releasing a single title achieved through it. This was for quite a few people a reason to complain about what dovac once said on reddit to be SP "business practices".

>>12959178
>I don't want to pay for anything at all. I just want to sit here and collect checks without having to take single risk or put in any effort above and beyond organizing Kickstarter pages.

Steam was pretty unhappy when he floated this business model to them too.

>>12959203
How so? Care to share some details?

>>12958900
If they release titles that I actually care about then I don't see a problem with giving them money.

>>12955212
I did the exact same thing.
Boted for Dies Irae, Baldr sky and Tokyo babel.

>>12959093
And what about all of the webcomic reprint/first physical print kickstarters? It's common practice to have kickstarters for 'let us (re)print this thing that already exists' in other fields, just not in video games (because why the hell would you reprint a video game?).

Even if Kickstarter (the site) were only for projects that create something from scratch, there's still other sites like Indiegogo and countless less well-known sites that can be used to crowdfund pretty much anything.

>>12951693
I hope we'll be able to see the result, just to know in what state the western VN community is. I'm sure at least half of the top 10 will be either nukige or alreadt translated title like FSN or Umineko.

>>12951693
>Oretsuba

I can't wait for Kouryuu's translation of Oretsuba.

>>12959504
Depressing.aa

>>12957256
I came here just to check if you made any progress. Thanks for you efforts anon.

>>12959413
https://twitter.com/MangaGamer/status/558491371041210370
>We'll likely make a blog post after all the results are in.

Doddler makes some comments about the license requests:
http://ask.fm/The_Doddler/answer/123138563313
>the usual players are all present, as this kind of thing works almost like a popularity contest of unlicensed titles. There's the Fate suggestions, your MuvLuv suggestions, and who knows why but also still getting Clannad suggestions too. A lot of other less represented subcultures put their word in, with a huge showing from the BL otome communities, as well as those for Yuri.

>>12959752
Fucking faggots.

>>12959804
>huge showing from the BL otome communities
What the fuck is happening to this community?
I don't mind seeing otome and BL games being localized but don't tell me the votes for these titles exceed the votes for "straight" VNs...

>>12959752
>huge showing from the BL otome communities
What the fuck is happening to this community?
I don't mind seeing otome and BL games being localized but don't tell me the votes for these titles exceed the votes for "straight" VNs...

>>12959926

Hope you're ready to get gay anonymous

>>12959926
Hello newfag. You seem to not understand how large this community is. I mean the VN community, not the circlejerk community.

http://blog.mangagamer.org/2015/01/26/look-back-at-2014/

Come out and play, order number wizards

>>12960164
>After Higurashi and Go Go Nippon were Greenlit on Steam, the sudden and instant success of the latter allowed our company to pave the way for Visual Novels on Steam and set a precedent our fellow Visual Novel publishers have chosen to follow. Even now, our own all-ages release of Cho Dengeki Stryker still stands as the only full-length Visual Novel localized for English release on Steam, and we have a lot of plans to continue adding high-quality content with volume to our Steam store in the future.

Nice jab at SP, I hope this will make dovac shut up with his usual "we made steam possible!" bullshit.

The #1 game MangaGamer needs to put out is Oretsuba. No idea why they're still putting out Shuffle games when they could be putting that out. Comparing Jackson's writing to some philosopher's is unwarranted. Yes, there's no way you can translate a variety of extremely nuanced Japanese speaking styles into English, and the best way to enjoy Oretsuba is certainly to learn Japanese, and some subtle lingual cues may be lost in translation or awkwardly transmitted. But good prose by itself does not make a VN, the concepts and intents conveyed by the prose are what make it so unique and worthwhile.

#2 is Baldr Sky. Only #2 because I think a fan translator will do it eventually, unlike Oretsuba where most translators won't because MG should. If this gets a version put on Steam with the H scenes cut, it would instantly make VNs respectable in the Western game community. If a VN like 999 that has an "okay" plot and decent gameplay can get a sizable Western fanbase, then a VN like Baldr Sky that has amazing gameplay and an amazing plot would get far more. The major obstacle I see is the loli who runs a sex toy shop, I'm not sure how Giga would feel if her character was modified (for those not aware, her presence is what got Baldr Sky banned from TVTropes during their lolicon purge). Well, there are tons of "not for kids" scenes in Baldr Sky besides the explicit ones, anyway.

Ikusa Megamo Zero would be another big hit, though it could never make it to Steam. I don't know much about WA2 but it does deserve better than a mediocre translation. Dies irae would be a big hit because of all the hype at the very least. ChuSinGura 46+1 would be a nice surprise, and smart since Raindog/inre doesn't seem like they'd refuse. It's not as long as people think, either.

>>12957366
If you want an official company to put out Root Double, I hope you have the money to pay for a PS3/Vita if they decide to directly port the console version.

>>12960356
You're a very deluded person.

>Ikusa Megamo Zero

>>12960356
>concepts and intents conveyed by the prose
I'm highly sceptical that you played Oretsuba at all. What """concepts""" did you find there?

>>12960356
>But good prose by itself does not make a VN, the concepts and intents conveyed by the prose are what make it so unique and worthwhile.
The only reason you can say that is because you've never read Oretsuba. There's basically no point unless a very, very good translator is given a lot of time to work on it. Even Koestl is daunted by the idea of translating Oretsuba.

>>12951693
Fuck, why not just get fucking Ikusa Megami (the remake). That would be fucking amazing. Or fucking Himegari. Why the flying fuck would you choose Arterial out of ALL THE EUSHULLY GAMES?

>>12960543
> Or fucking Himegari. Why the flying fuck would you choose Arterial
Maybe because he actually played them?
Himegari is worst Eushully game I've played (and I've played all except first two IMs and that ancient maid game), while Soukoku is universally accepted as one of their best games gameplay-wise.

Personally I've voted IMZ, as I think its better story-wise and its key game to whole Dyr-Lyphna world, but as test game, Soukoku would do better.

>>12960577
>Soukoku is universally accepted as one of their best games gameplay-wise
No. No it's not. This is the opposite of reality.

>>12960577
> My face when playing a TCG in a VN.

Man, I'm having flashbacks to that built-in Xenosaga cardgame, Triple Triad, and my first VN ever, motherfucking Princess Waltz.

>>12960642
Card games are very common among gameplay VNs, wtf are you talking about?

>>12960680
No, they're not.

>>12960356
>If you want an official company to put out Root Double, I hope you have the money to pay for a PS3/Vita if they decide to directly port the console version.
I already have a Vita (bought one to play Danganronpa 2, totally worth it) and have access to a PS3 (which isn't mine but I can play on it at any time). It's fine as long as they don't exclusively bring over the Xbox 360 version...because then I would buy a 360 to play it and that would cost me a lot of money.

>>12960411
For example, the concepts behind the characters, like what happened in the past and how it affected their personalities, and the way conversations characterize that (like flashbacks, the parallel world). Hiyoko's speech patterns aren't that nuanced, so do you really think only a genius translator could let English readers understand what's great about her? The whole route serves to illustrate the complexity of her character, and while it's true that a shitty writer could make it so boring I'd have quit, even just an average writer would have been enough to keep me eager to see and learn more of her, because she's that fantastic.

I think it's common sense to most people that there's more to stories than how brilliantly they're phrased.

>>12960684
Fair enough. I think it would sell better that way, anyway.

>>12957256
based anon

>>12960759
> concepts behind the characters, like what happened in the past and how it affected their personalities, and the way conversations characterize that
So you are saying Oretsuba should be top priority game for MG because of crappy generic moege """concepts""" which are present in every second game out there and half of MG catalogue? Totally makes sense.

>>12959037
Sounds like what the clothing company Gustin does, except they use their own site not Kickstarter (I think they got started on Kickstarter).

It sounds like it could be a good idea but I don't know all the logistics behind a model like that and how feasible it would be for eroge localization companies.

>>12951693
I voted Dies Irae, Ayakashibito, and Muramasa.
If you don't vote chuuni you ain't shit.

>>12961063
Do you even know who owns Muramasa?

>>12961063
> Licensing Ayakashibito when it's already translated.
WHY.

>>12955356
Thank you for that translation anon.

Looks like they threw out YukkuriS's freefriends translation and gave it to maria

I'm kinda surprised, I really thought they'd have doddler just port it and shove it out the door like imopara.

http://ask.fm/MangaGamerStaff/answer/123262754290
The difference between MG and SP.

>EOPs ask for Dies Irae all the time
>MG finally gets their filthy hands on it
>the translation comes out
>it was the 2007 release all along

ayy lmao

>>12961554
I'm still baffled by them doing regular DC and DC2.

Why people asking for shit like Dies Irae? Even Japanese people themselves don't like that shit like western reader do.

>>12960922
I was talking about the choices, feelings, lifestyles, ways in which each character acts a bit differently with each other character, and how that connects to their attitude and history to create a beautiful and moving story. Those aren't mere functions of phrasing. They require vision to realize.

>>12961419
Imopara is probably too big of a game to throw out the translation for, you'd delay the release by like a year.

>>12961554
You just used both tumblr and /v/ "le ebin maymays" in one post. That will show those EOPs who the cool guys here for sure.

>>12959752
>Fate suggestions, your MuvLuv suggestions
I knew it, fuck every retard who voted for an already fantranslated VN. I'm sure most of them played less than 3 VN in their life and put them on the list because that's the only title they know. I'm pissed, fuck them for ruinning the licensing survey, I hope MG won't listen to them.

>>12961809
I'm pretty much convinced that MG will release ImoPara hard-copy but instead of the original version they'll release the anime enhanced with a revised translation.

>>12962106
I voted for KimiNozo but added I'd like to see an official release for ML, TE and most of Chronicles are untranslated and the series would sell pretty well compared to the other non nukige titles MG offer because of it's reputation. The same applies to Fate stuff, it would bring in a lot of money for MG but it's not like Type-Moon have anything that people would want to be localized that isn't already TL'd like age, MG aren't going to do a PC port of CCC.

>>12960447
Grow the fuck up. Koestl isn't Edward Seidensticker and Oretsuba isn't The Makioka Sisters. Stop hyping how difficult your Chinese powerpoint is to read and understand that books twenty times more complex and nuanced have been translated for years. It doesn't matter if someone did it for free or not, perpetuating this belief that certain VNs are so intrinsically Japanese for daring to have a non-young adult prose style that they can't be translated is fucking retarded.

>>12961600
Who the fuck cares what other people like? What matters is what I like.

>>12955097
Multiple exclamation marks, a sure sign of a diseased mind.

>>12960411
What's with this stupid meme where people just put a ton of quotation marks when they're being sarcastic? Well, no, it's not a meme, I've only ever seen herkz do it and he looks stupid each time. So fuck you, herkz. You don't even know Japanese.

>>12962472
Damn, that is a pretty good post. If only more people thought like this instead of being fake pretentious assholes who haven't even read real literature.

>>12962630
Someone on /a/ just did it in an Eva thread. It's the born of a new epic meme.

>>12962191
Doesn't the person who was supposed to translate Kiminozo work for MG on KnS?

>>12962630
Dude, congrats! He's handle is always lowercase and you got that! Some people don't play attention to this fact

>>12962472
If you'll actually read my post (you won't), you'll notice I didn't say anything about Oretsuba being untranslatable. It's not. What I said is that it would take a skilled translator a long time to do it, and that there's little point in bringing it over with a bad translation. So unless you manage to raise your Edward Seidensticker from the dead and convince him to translate Oretsuba for MG for a pittance and give him a few years to do it, your point is invalid (and doesn't have much to do with what I posted in any case).

Unfortunately, back in the real world, Koestl's about the best we've got right now and VN translators might have a year or so at most to translate the equivalent of 10+ standard novels (and Koestl, at least, has a day job on top of that). With that kind of timeframe it's just completely unrealistic to attempt to preserve the feel of the text of someone like Jackson, which in Oretsuba's case is the entire fucking point. Other games have enough of a plot to carry them despite their poor translations (I'm thinking FSN here), but Oretsuba is not one of them.

>>12954116
At least quote something people here can understand, goddamn.

>>12963265
im hitler i understood it perfectly

>>12950488
>>Higurashi (retranslation) - 14.5% of Watanagashi TL, Onikakushi in QC

Isn't it like the 3rd time it's getting translated?

>>12963484
It's okay, the author really deserves it.

>>12963532
But the first translation was fine.

>>12963539
it had some typos, so we have to retranslate

4 days left on the Grisaia kickstarter and still nothing on what they are doing with the 18+ release for backers, I guess that was just more bullshit from Dovac. Also Denpasoft is just ignoring questions and still only accepts bitcoin for payment.

>>12963677
Well, they at least confirmed it would be sold via DenpaSoft. But for backers, just assume you'll get nothing special and have to buy the 18+ version separately - FrontWing would never let Sekai give backers anything 18+ after forcing them to go out of their way to create DenpaSoft. As far as FrontWing is concerned, Sekai is entirely unrelated to DS and the Grisaia kickstarter has nothing to do with its 18+ version.

>>12963677
What shocking developments. Who could have possibly seen this coming?

>>12963715
I wonder if they'll sell it untranslated and provide a link to a patch or something, surely they would have to, to ensure ~Complete separation~ as the translation is the property of Sekai Project.

>>12963677
No fucking surprise considering Frontwing basically told all the backers interested in the 18+ version to fuck off

You're not going to get any sort of benefit towards the 18+ version if you back the existing kickstarter, Frontwing want there to be no connection between the All Ages and 18+ version.

>>12962646
I'm not sure if that's sarcastic or not. Thank you if it wasn't, sorry for being an asshole if it was.
>>12962980
Yeah I'm sorry for going off on you. I think I just got pissed when you said that you'd need a really good translator, and for me Orestuba wasn't nearly as difficult as something "literary." Most of my anger stems at moogy for making those stupid tier lists with "untranslatable" sections.

2nd paragraph is spot on. Orestuba is the type of game where you'd need a better knowledge of English than Japanese to translate, although you'd need better than average of both. Part of the problem with fan translation is that people study Japanese and then neglect to study English, which leads to a technically correct translation but not necessarily an enjoyable one. I guess this is understandable, because with few exceptions (Soshite Ashita no Sekai Yori, Orestuba, etc...) VNs are plot based and written like young adult novels so as long as the plot is preserved then it's mission accomplished. I think for the medium to grow up people need to demand more from translation, as there's currently a cult of personality set up for translators due to the rarity of the good being translated. But just because something is free does not mean it is exempt from criticism and people need to demand more quality.

You already knew this so I don't know why I just lectured you. Sorry. The reason I read VNs is because I'm not good enough at Japanese to read literature yet and it's an interesting way to tell a story. Sex is fine too, and people can write good sex scenes if they put their minds to it. Thanks for reading my pretentious, obnoxious post and again I'm sorry for yelling at you. じゃあね.

>>12963748
Of course not. They'll create a Kickstarter to fund buying the translation from SP.

>>12959752
Why are these retards voting in this poll if they don't know shit about VNs or MG? I really hope MG ignores them.

>>12961419
Speaking about ImoPara, I'm confused. The blog post entry
>http://blog.mangagamer.org/2014/02/04/a-short-look-back-part-15/
clearly says that a translator under the alias "batman" worked on ImoPara and would work on Higurashi. Is this batman yukkuris or other person? I'm under the impression that this was already discussed some time ago but for the life of me I can't find that discussion.

>>12964402
He was fired. One part incompetence, one part he stopped working. Lo and behold, he then immediately popped up as an SP translator.

Who the fuck is in charge of the jastusa twitter?

https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/558071253140258817

It's fucking ridiculous how they cannot even communicate with their customers. People ask simple questions and get entirely different answers.

I seriously hope you don't use that font and color choice in KnS2, Doodler.

>>12964491
That's different from SP and MG how?

>>12964501

Where am I comparing jastusa to MG and SP?

>>12964501
Umm, like this: >>12961427
You have plenty of ways to get answers from MG, and they are usually very clear about situation.

>>12964408
Because he's the translator the VN community deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight.

>>12964516
>they are usually very clear about situation.
Aside from the months where they were unclear, prompting everyone to ask.

>>12964491
I didn't know Kana Imouto was retranslated. Why it's not in the OP ?

>>12964703
Because Dan88 is a shitcock.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/the-grisaia-trilogy-three-huge-visual-novels-for-p/posts/1118618 Even sony doesn't want sekai project to be on vita telling them to apply again is just a polite way to tell them to fuck off

>>12965193
People should make a list of all of Sekai Project's lies. How the fuck are people stupid enough to give them almost half a million dollars for one project? Weebs sure are thirsty.

>>12965480
Well, people are still stupid enough to say "weebs" seriously, so it doesn't surprise me that they're also stupid enough to give Sekai so much money.

>>12964402
Yeah, Batman is YukkuriS. He goes by a bunch of names to try and throw us off but he's still an annoying fucking troll.

>>12965720
what makes you think hes a troll?

>>12965710
If the shoe fits.

>>12965720
No. Batman is now known as Trantez. YukkuriS is now known as Shinkenshi. YukkuriS was fired from ImoPara and then Batman took over. Batman was then fired from MG as well. They took new names after their public humiliation and devoting themselves to Sekai Project.

>>12965731
"If the shoe fits, be a memer."

What's this new meme people like? "Dank" memes, I think? Yeah, for all the Reddit/tumblr/Gaia hate, people here sure like talking exactly like them.

>>12965732
Batman, Trantez, Shinkenshi, and YukkuriS are all the same person.

>>12965738
Yes. Weeb is brand new, freshly imported from tumblr as of yesterday. It has never, ever existed before then, let alone on 4chan.

>>12965743
Unfortunately, they're not. That means that Sekai Project has twice as many dedicated fuckwits on staff.

>>12965754
No, they are. He made multiple accounts.

>>12965812
In your conspiracy theory, instead of there being two fuckwits, there's one fuckwit who got fired, and replaced by himself doing an even worse job with a new identity to cash his payment checks before being fired again.

>>12965816
So he left publicly but was still required to finish the job so he did a shitty job and left again.

Yours is that a translator just as shitty as him appears magically doing the exact same job as him and then is fired too.

I doubt MangaGamer is that bad with staffing.

>>12965824
You do know that literally just this week, Mangagamer announced that they had to throw away two entire scripts for games that they previously announced as fully translated and edited because they didn't bother looking at them until that point and discovered that they were unusably bad, right?

>>12965833
That's a problem with management not staffing. I hear they have been constantly improving so I can only imagine that they're just getting around to throwing away YukkuriS' garbage.

>>12950510
I am surprisised Demonbane has a sequel. I didn't know that.

It was only really good for the music. And Doctor West.

>>12965824
Wasn't Batman the guy who was originally doing the Higurashi re-translation? I bet the new translator, Gary, had to re-translate the re-translation. Also Space Pirate Sara taking so long to be translated was because the original translator never finished it. Cafe had to take over, and he likely redid the entire thing or at least translation checked it.

>>12960228
pfffft. Way to steal all the glory from other VNs that were on there before GGN.

>>12951693


I put down three NTR nukige.

>>12965851
Wasn't Demonbane the VN that made N+ well known? It got a PS2 port that was a little different as well as the sequel. It also got in SRW before Muv Luv did as well.

>>12965856
Yeah probably
>>12963632
Hi Gary

>>12965862
What VNs were on there before GGN? Excluding OELVNs of course.

>>12965868
So did I.
Triangle Blue - LiLiM Darkness
Netorase - Atelier Sakura
Gibo no Toiki - TinkerBell

in all seriousness though whats the big deal with the yukkuri guy?

>>12965892
>not voting for 彼女がレズに寝取られる!?～百合にハマった恋人を、おしおきチンポで取り戻せ!!～

>>12965732
Actually, Shinikenshi was Shinikenshi before he was YukkuriS. I'm pretty sure I've seen the name Trantez around before I ever heard of Batman, too.

>>12965872
No, that was Phantom of Inferno, their debut title. By the time Demonbane rolled around Nitro+ was already an established brand.

>>12965882
>Excluding OELVNs of course
Wow. This is why nobody likes this VN translation mob.

>>12965892


I put down

https://vndb.org/v6593
https://vndb.org/v10534
https://vndb.org/v5519

>>12965914
KILL WHITEY!!!!

>>12965906
He's Sekai Project's main translator, is extraordinarily incompetent with both basic Japanese and basic English errors all over everything he's ever touched, and yet is also extremely arrogant and generally an asshole, especially in the wake of MG firing him. He gets some extra infamy because Dovac keeps lying about how they're going to fix SP's (his) terrible translations and quality control but then never even bothering to pretend like they're actually doing that.

>>12965912
I just always figured Demonbane was more popular, might just be because Al is popular. She has a lot of Charagoods and all that.

>>12965912
> I'm pretty sure I've seen the name Trantez around before I ever heard of Batman, too.
He uses both names simultaneously, and even his info for his trantez twitter account specified that he's batman.

>>12965875
MangaGamer staff is in here? That's pretty unprofessional.

>>12965999
Is this your first time at /jp/? Everyone, from MG, JAST and SP posts there once in a while.

>>12965851

Actually, I found that it had the only really good sex scenes in a VN ever. Like, I've never really thought of scenes as hot in most VNs, other than maybe Cross Channel.

I think it's because there isn't really this element of sadism present in a lot of VN sex scenes, 90% of it is like OH I AM SEEING HER PARTS THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS or OH WE ARE SO CONNECTED + some body descriptions. The sex scenes in Demonbane were just much better translated, which is funny because apparently they just had some random guy translate that stuff.

>>12965999
You guys should keep calling everything 'unprofessional' until all VN company PR is done by "professional" PR people who refuse to answer anything with anything but stock phrases.

Fuck "professional". Seriously.

>>12966043
Actually, although I've seen various people from MangaGamer post here, I've never seen an actual representative from JAST post on here - only people indirectly connected to them (such as people from the TLWiki crowd that worked with JAST). Similarly, although I know at least dovac has read this thread before, I've never seen anyone from Sekai post here. There's a lot of 'sup dovac'-style comments here, but most of those "dovac" posts are mine and a lot of the ones that weren't mine were clearly also not dovac.

(Peter Payne does post comments on blogs frequently, though, and dovac has posted on VNDB before. He also used to be active on IRC, though he hasn't been on much lately (apparently too busy with Sekai). I'm not sure if they still have it, but MangaGamer at least used to have its own IRC channel where you could easily talk to some of the staff.)

>>12965749
Shortening it to weeb did in fact originate from tumblr and then caught on here because all this site does these days is steal tumblr memes to be "ironic," except most people aren't even being ironic and take it 100% seriously. So, shows what you know.

>>12966076
>I've never seen anyone from Sekai post here. There's a lot of 'sup dovac'-style comments here, but most of those "dovac" posts are mine and a lot of the ones that weren't mine were clearly also not dovac.
Either you are intentionally lying or have some severe memory problems.
dovac posting himself here:
>>/jp/?task=search2&ghost=yes&search_text=&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=KYLP0%2FampnO&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=post

>>12966085
This scares me, do you have any proof?

>>12966085
Nice theory, but "weeb" became a thing before tumblr was created.

>>12962667
That was probably still just herkz.

>>12966076
>I know at least dovac has read this thread before, I've never seen anyone from Sekai post here.

How new are you?

>>12966076
> I know at least dovac has read this thread before, I've never seen anyone from Sekai post here.
Koestl kept posting in here and Grisaia KS thread as official SP representative for several months.

>>12966101
Either you underestimate how long tumblr has existed or you don't realize how new "weeb" is. It came from tumblr.

>>12966096
There's no way to prove the origin of memes. I'm just telling you what I've seen because I was a regular on both sites when it started happening.

>>12966130
So no proof then, I'm half scared.

>>12965816
Actually, someone else jumped into the discussion and replaced me, so it looks like I'm not the only one who knows what's going on with B/T/Y/S.

>>12966136
As you should always be. I assure you that I am trustworthy, though, so don't let that fear die.

>>12966093
I was going to chalk it up to the fact that he only posted in two threads and I must've missed him, but there's posts clearly posted by me in that thread...so I guess 'severe memory problems' is the right answer.

>>12966108
Yeah, but koestl isn't Sekai staff, he's just working for Sekai on a per-project basis (and he's working for MangaGamer in the same way); that's no different from how people working on JAST projects have posted here before.

>>12966145
I just check warosu, weeb has been used in 2008, but tumblr was founded in 2007 and /jp/ didn't go as far as back then, so I'm not sure.

>>12966161
See? Yeah, tumblr's memes have been pervading this site for over half a decade at this point. To be fair, just like this site, it does have some good things if you dig deep and get past the horrible stuff. The hate is just a really late reaction to something that has come to identify 4chan.

>>12966267
No, this doesn't mean anything, if people use weebs on /a/ before Feb 2007 it means the reverse.

And nothing good ever comes from tumblr as far as I've concerned.

>>12966274
See what? You think tumblr was popular enough in its first year to even kopipe?

>>12966267

Well, that doge and ayy lmao shit came from tumblr. I don't know why /jp/ uses that though.

>>12966130
So you're actually from tumblr yet you think you have the moral high ground here. You're also trying to be some kind of meme police, which is even worse than using memes.

>>12966278
"Doge" was definitely not tumblr, it started on /jp/ and then got brought to mainstream by /v/.

It used to be japanese dog.

>>12966293
Well yeah, shiba inus were popular on /jp/ but calling it "doge" and adding stupid text was pure tumblr cancer but I guess you can say that it was a natural progression from lolcats which would be from 4chan anyways.

>>12950484
>for Windows 2000 / XP / Vista
>Still not translated.

Huniepop is the third best selling game ever on mangagamer.

How does this make you feel, /jaypee/?

>>12966581
I've bought it myself (just to support pro-#GG developer, I'm never going to actually play it), so I'm happy.

>>12966581

A bit disappointed, as it's basically bejeweled on roids. The characters are all bland and uninteresting, you never scratch beyond the surface.

>>12966581
Feels like I need to go back and 100% it. Fucked all the girls awhile ago but I still need all the outfits and haircuts.

>>12966274
>if people use weebs on /a/ before Feb 2007 it means the reverse.

And they don't, because it came from tumblr.

>>12966278
>You think tumblr was popular enough in its first year to even kopipe?

What makes you think it wasn't? A lot of memes come pretty early in a site's lifetime.

>>12966581
Pretty happy for it, as I have actually played it and enjoy it. Also happy for MangaGamer, since it means they're making lods of emone. My only issue with the game is I'd also like to see an actual VN with the characters, but it never advertised itself as such a thing so I don't fault it for that. It's just a solid puzzle game.

>>12966290
And you're actually getting condescending towards tumblr despite being from motherfucking /jp/. I hope you don't think that's something to be proud of.

>>12966722
>making lods of emone

More likely a few to ten thousand bucks, considering they only get a percent of the cut of the ten dollar game.

Still, it's a pretty good deal, considering all they had to do was list the game.

>>12966587
>#GG
Kill yourse-, oh yeah, this thread is filled with crossboarders anyway.

>>12966718
Go ahead and try to prove that it came from tumblr.

>>12951693
Kamidori. Odds are infinity to one I'm sure but I placed my vote anyway.

>>12967398
>asking for something that's already been translated

http://tenka.seiha.org/2015/01/atonement-rhapsody-sin-pain-get-set/#comment-105536

>My plate is full to overflowing already. One finished game, one 99% done sans some gallery interface image stuff I really don’t want to do myself, PA, and one I’ve been working on for the last couple months. I have no shortage of things to do.

Aroduck is such a fag.

>>12964495
More like Diddler, amirite?

>>12966722
This is pretty much how I feel about it. It looks like sales are good so hopefully they'll put some of that money toward a more fully developed sequel.

>>12967888
Hai, u r rite.

>>12951693
I said Baldr Sky, White Album 2, and Akatsuki no Goei

All good VNs that Mangagamer could translate decently.

>>12968812
Thanks for being sane.

So, can anyone explain to me why MG doesn't announce KiraKira release on Steam? Although it needs a re-translation it seems to me like a pretty good move.

>>12968851
>Although it needs a re-translation
The current translation suck ?

>>12968863
KiraKira is one of MG initial releases which have a lot of typos and mistranslations.

http://blog.mangagamer.org/2015/01/28/look-forward-to-2015/

Shame convention season is still so far, but looking forward to it.

>>12968982
I kinda want to buy gakhtun if it gets a physical release, I love my liar soft boxes.

>>12968982
>after getting approval from Moonstone, we will be making Princess Evangile All-Ages available on Steam as well!
>the all-ages version available for $34.95. As usual, buying either version on our website will earn you a Steam Key as well.
>Kara no Shojo 2 and euphoria is progressing quickly. With luck, we should be able to have both of these titles out this summer.
>fairly steady line of hard copies planned and slated for printing
>talks with a certain particular company are already underway
>we’re making several approaches of our own at a few new and interesting targets
>We also plan on adding a few more titles to our catalog from our existing partners

>>12969030
Talking about steam, how is it in regards to gorey stuff? Same as porn?

>talks with a certain particular company are already underway
Consider me very curious about this.

Also, Princess Evangile has an official site. See http://mangagamer.org/princessevangile/
I liked this out of nowhere announcement.

>>12969069
>Consider me very curious about this.
Don't be.

Trust me.

>>12969069
>>talks with a certain particular company are already underway
Maybe type moon ? I don't know why nobody licenced FSN yet, it's the most popular japaness VN in the west and a new anime just aired. Plus with realta nua they could sell it as three differents game to make more money.

>>12969154
Yeah, I mean, all they need to do is ask and then Japanese companies fall over themselves to do what the mighty Jast, Mangagamer, and Sekai Project want since they're such titans of industry with massive sales numbers and sterling reputations.

>>12969072
Why?

>>12969175
Why do you think?

>>12969175
Because you make our little dovac sad when you are looking at other companies.

>>12969179
To avoid disappointment I suppose? Or because it may be a nukige company?
I know you love me and don't want to see me hurt anon but don't worry. Even if I'm forced to face disappointment and leave you guys for good I'll be okay.

>>12967851
Agreed. Being a translator doesn't give you a free pass to be a dickweed with a massive ego. You don't see that shit out of, say, Lv. 1 Translator (I think that was his name), despite him producing plenty of quality content.

>>12969888
That shit?

Did I miss something?

>>12969966
Yeah, but let's just say it's better that you don't know.

>>12970002
So nothing.

>>12970011
Aroduc was mean to his favorite anime show. YURUSENAI!!1111

>>12970018
It's funny because it's true.
https://archive.moe/jp/thread/12521225/#12580925

>>12970042
To be fair, Aroduc's blog is pretty awful whether you agree with his taste or not.

>>12968982

I don't know why all the faggots commenting are so happy the VNs are going to be on Steam. They're getting a lesser product and if they're doing to it to support the industry, they're doing less of that too since Steam takes 30% already. The only legit reason is regional pricing where it will be cheaper for some people.

>>12970286
Of course it is, shittaste buttmad-kun.

>>12969069
>All Ages Version Ages 15+, Available on Steam
>Adult Version Ages 18+ Only, Fully Uncensored on Mangagamer.com

They're going good. Would support 18+