/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Why is abyss so moe?

>>12921373
cause they're abyssamoe

pls use pic related as the future OP pic

>>12921305
>>12921373
>>12921452
>yuugi
>youmu
>reimu
will cancer collection ever have something original

>>12921483
Is being unoriginal so bad?

>>12921483
Touhou didn't invent onis, mikos nor soft beings either.

>>12921483
braindead 2shitter ladies and gentlemen

>>12921483
>yuugi
But there's no Jun'you on op pick, the fuck you're talking about?

Stop responding to trolls. Report and ignore. Global 3.

>>12920694
> Type 3
> It's the highest scaling AA equipment at 0.6 I believe.
3.0, only beaten by the recent addition that is Akizuki gun with 3.5.

As a side note, 2x 3gou + Ar196K + sanshiki gives 4.8, getting rounded down to 4.0 AA bonus, vs using F1M instead, which gives 5.0 AA bonus.

>>12921602
Just realised what >>12920694 meant by scaling. Yeah it has the highest scaling. 5 AA * 0.6 scaling = 3.0 fleet AA.

>>12921602
Wow, you're still butthurt about that, imbecile.

I'm thinking about either leveling a Fubuki or Ayanami. Fubuki's Kai Ni seems to be better, but Ayanami Kai Ni also has good stats and comes with a Searchlight + Star Shell, which are unbuildable.

Any recommendations?

>>12921801
Scrap the fubushitters.

>>12921801
Both

>>12921801
Depends on if you want 94 FD or yasen equipment more. Don't know why you even need a recommendation on this.

>>12921892
i guess now we know why it's called shitcolle :^)

>>12921892
11/10 really cleaver wow :^)

we are being janitored guyz (^:

>>12921255
Opened my KCV materials log in google sheets, deleted the buckets/devmat/flamethrower columns and added a trend graph.

Not liking this one bit.

How do you use logbook? I can't even get it to run. I don't speak moon so the readme telling me to go to the website is pointless.

>>12922213
Just look at the pictures in the website, no japanese needed.

Guys, I cannot into Bisko, and I'm starting to lose hope.

I'm using 4000/6000/7000/2000/20 but I only get goddamn Kongoes and Fusoes.

With the upcoming event, I'll make one last attempt next week before stockpiling (I'm already reaching my ressource cap anyway, I just want to stay under the cap for another week).

Which recipe should I use next week?

>>12922218
Maybe I should have said, How to I get it to work when using KCV so I can keep track of my gains and shit.

>>12922244
You do realize KCV has a built in resource log you can use right? You can just open the file on excel or something afterwards.

>>12922225
4000/5170/7000/2540/20

>>12922244
Settings -> Other -> Logging
Enable it and it will be logged automatically.

>>12922252
Thank you mate, I'll be reporting my result.

I have good hopes, I can feel the jp magic.

>>12922276
What's your flag?

>>12922281
Prinz Kai level 71, and I also put Hachi (level 93), and Z1/Z3 (both level 1), for placebo purpose.

>>12922321
Well?

>Finally free from 3-4's RNG hell
Thank god.

>>12922330
Presumably he commited sudoku after spending all his resources without getting her.

>>12922393
kek

Why is everyone hating the anime?
I'm fine with it

If only my favorite ships get some screentime....

>>12922403

Who's hating the anime? I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

>>12922403
>Anime discussion belongs to /a/ and is not welcome at /jp/

>>12922403
Where did you come from? I don't think I've seen many people here hating it.

As for xyz not being in the anime, it sucks, but they're having trouble giving the already limited number of characters any lines at all. I can't imagine just what a clusterfuck it would be with everyone there.

>>12922403
>why is /a/ hating the anime
fixed it for you.

Also I do not think there is a big hate, at least it isn't as big as the love. Mostly though it is anons that are pissed that the show is stealing spotlight and money from other shows (which in it self is dum argument).

>>12922403
Nobody is really hating on the anime except from some aspie.

And of course they can't show everybody... I mean, some girls weren't even in game yet when anime production started.

(Not like it won't get sequels/spinoffs anyway so don't worry too much about that.)

>>12922392
5-3 is waiting warmly

>>12922403
secondaries

stay away from /a/

>>12922429
don't be dumb, market-animes don't get second seasons

>>12922442
Pretty much anything that successful gets sequels, unless there are IP/source problems or somebody dies.

>>12922403
I don't hate it, I just think it's an average anime. A bit cringe worthy too when they put in a joke about Akagi eating a lot, Fubuki being useless or stating stuff that's not in line with the game. I also can't see for what it was delayed for so long.

>>12922457
> delayed
What? Since when?

>>12922424
>Mostly though it is anons that are pissed that the show is stealing spotlight and money from other shows (which in it self is dum argument).
Congratulations, you fell for shitposters in your elitist attempt.

>>12922465
It's the Vita game that was delayed-

>>12922472
That's what I thought.

>>12922465
It's the Vita game that was delayed.

>>12922472
Delaying for what? It's just a shitty port with a bad UI and bad lazy animations.

>>12922465
It was supposed to air in Summer 2014 but a week after season started, without any sign of KanColle anime, it was finally announed that it will air in Winter 2015 instead.

>>12922465
It was supposed to be out in summer or fall but was pushed back to winter

>>12922480
They never said it was going to air specifically in summer, they said 'from summer 2014 onwards'.

>>12922457
>stating stuff that's not in line with the game
Like what?

>>12922465
Since people made assumptions about when it was going to air and their assumptions turned out to be wrong.

>>12922487
any word of this having 26 episodes?
this is likely impossible but well....

>>12922480
> people made assumptions
Yeah, I can't remember ever getting disappointed for the anime not airing in 2014 summer, and I would remember that, because I was pretty damn hyped for the anime.

>>12922479
To keep the shekels flowing for as long as possible. The anime is going to get them a ton of money now, so when it ends, they'll release the Vita game to get some more. My guess is they'll milk that for however long they feel necessary as well before announcing season 2.

>>12922487
> people made assumptions
Yeah, I can't remember ever getting disappointed for the anime not airing in summer 2014, and I would remember that, because I was pretty damn hyped for the anime.

>>12922497
They said 1 cour

>>12922497
It's an 1-cour show.

(Unless they pull the surprise-sequel-totally-not-split-cour-thing, which they could.)

>>12922471
But anon not all of them are shitposters, some really do think that.

>>12922485
Still, it would be nice if they said it won't air in summer after all before the season started, not several days later, don't you think? There's nothing wrong with saying it was delayed as fuck.

>>12922501
They mentioned summer long ago and then no info at all, that's why there was barely any hype around summer.

>>12922507
I was hoping it would have been a TPS or something or 3D view of battles, but expecting anything competent out of Katawa is stupid.

>>12922524
pretty sure there's some doujin games like that around

>>12922524
>Katawa

>>12922524
Pretty much. I was hoping for a different genre of game rather than a lazy port, but no, that would require too much effort (and money) on their part.

>>12922530
Kadokawa whoops. Don't know why I was thinking about cripple girls.

>>12922536
People wanted a 'mobile' way to play Kancolle and Kadokawa gave them one for cheap (well, cheaper than buying a tablet).

Demand and supply, etc.

>>12922536
that's bullshit, Kancolle is some big popular thing
I bet they have enough money to make PS4 games

>>12922547
Yeah, given the demand it's definitely the safer way for them to make a profit, as opposed to experimenting and having a potential flop, but there is a good number of people who are disappointed with it as well.

>>12922543
I thought you were sarcastically insulting them for being incapable, and then you messed it up.

>>12922549
I'm praying fruitlessly that they will announce something near then end of the anime about this

>>12922560
This. I'm disappointed.

>>12922434
even most of /a/ likes it besides a few trolls trying to start an IdolM@ster vs Kancolle war.

>>12922424
It is mostly cause the western fandom is dumb. They have lost sight of what the anime medium is all about.
The #1 complain that I heard was why are they little girls instead of real ships.

>>12922604

>They have lost sight of what the anime medium is all about.

What do you think the anime medium is about? I'm just curious to hear your opinion.

>>12922589
Naka exists, therefore kancolle is an idol anime and can be compared to im@s. Is that why? Please tell me it isn't.

>>12922611
well, that's because between Idols and ships Naka-chan belongs in the 中

come on guys, that one was good

>>12922611
It isnt, IdolM@ster fans are jealous shits so bad they got kicked off of /a/ into /vg/.

Love Live is crushing them in anime popularity so they lash out at anything remotely similar, and because im@s and Kancolle are based on games...

>>12922620
I will never understand those people. Love live was also kicked out of /a/ so what's wrong with that? And there's an im@s anime airing now. Sure it's cinderella girls, but still.

And to stay on topic... Did we have a guessing game for what level Hatsushimo kai 2 is yet? I'm thinking 60 or 65.

>>12922611
No, it's because they're by far two biggest shows of Winter. Easiest targets for trolling.

>>12922620
Just kill yourself. I bet you believe the shit you sputed just now.

>>12922608
The fascination of Japan with the culture of cute isn't a modern thing. Modern anime didn't ruin or actually start it. It was always prevalent in the culture. Here is a picture of old haruna.
The problem with western fandom was, they got exposed to the medium with a few selected title that catered to their mature and manly taste.
Then when they got into it and noticed about all the cute things and girly stuff, they flipped out and criticized how the industry is dying or how the japan has shit taste.

>>>/a/

>>12922645

Yeah ok I understand that position. I notice it quite a bit too.

>>12922620
Yeah, right. Bet you're one of those shitters who always bring the flames on Touhou vs Kancolle discussions. I know your type.

>>12922645
>The fascination of Japan with the culture of cute isn't a modern thing.
B..but I though Empire of Japan was ordnung and hawaii pigs forcefully destroyed everything grorious warriors of the Rising Sun stood for, making them pathetic cute-addicted weaklings. Don't go ruining my childhood dreams like this.

>>12922630
>I will never understand those people.
You're talking about imaginary people. iM@S fans being jealous is even bigger bullshit than KanColle vs Touhou war. Seriously, why are people still falling for this crap.

>>12922670
But I saw videos on nico douga about Touhou fans fighting against Kancolle fans on camera.

>>12922670
Because someone on /a/ kept stirring up anti-kancolle stuff in IM@S threads in the first week they both aired.

And did you not see the fallout of IM@S vs Kancolle on the japanese sites?

>>12922669
You can't be grorious warrior without appreciating cute things.

>>12922696
No, I have in-built mental ignore for those morons. Vocal minority, likely not even caring about the franchises.

>>12922699
But ordnung!

>>12922669
They lost WW2 because they were busy idealizing and fapping to their idealized battleship.

>>12922670
It is actually happening in Japan. It got so bad that the nico mod have to step in and censored comments. LL is also getting tons of flak, you can see in most comments where people just called LL gomirabu. I am not sure if these people are actually hardcore fans or just aniplex hired shills.

>>12922695
Why we can't have both?

>>12922719
Because the Kancolle fanbase keeps picking a fight with every one for no reason.

>>12922724

Same can be said for the Touhou fanbase. Both sides are guilty for being bitchy.

>>12922730
2hu fanbase is mad because kancolle stole they fanarts and doujins

>>12922713
This Hyuuga looks better than the one we have.

>>12922719
We can and do. Most of people who "betrayed" Touhou for KanColle actually create stuff for both.

>>12922713
Didn't know it was so bad there. As for Love Live, I don't even consider it same type of franchise (because with shows, every idol anime is very different from each other), it's too popular among normals.
Perhaps a bit of both but I would rather bet on people who enjoy watching things burn.

>>12922744
And it also stole IOSYS.

Oh wait, that's a good thing.

this thread just got janny'd

I claim these ruins in the name of the abyssal fleet.

All hail your new maybe-USN-maybe-corrupted-kanmusu overlords.

Good riddance. Blogposting is more enjoyable than all that samefaggotry.

God forbid people discuss things.

>>12922786
/jp/'s for shitposting and blog posting only. It's the containment board. moot said so.

Shhhhhhh
let's go back to kancolle before someone get banned

So guys, what is the % chance of fubuki 4DD squadron reaching the boss node?
I am at it for 2days now, getting SW every single time.

>>12922807
50%

>>12922807
You better tell me the chance of getting Shirayuki with all 30. I blew 7,3k of everything before running out of torches without getting her.

>>12922800
So why do people complain when others make blog posts, again?

>>12922835
What else can you do with blog posts?

>>12922835
They don't. Or they're shitposters.

Devs are tweeting about the event.

>>12922807
100%, I did it in one run.

>>12922855
It's starting in the first ten days of February. Nothing else is new, just a reminder that it's medium sized and to prepare as much as possible.

Will it be super easy so all the new players can clear it?

>>12922877
Level scaling exists for that.

Well, I tried. She'll have to wait for the post-event LSC binge. Was hoping to finish my pokedex before this one.

I'm finally free

Damn Ushio K2 is cute, I should have leveled her sooner.

>>12922877
They'll probably give us four maps with three being cakewalks and the fourth requiring you to fight a bushel of BB himes with three destroyers and three light cruisers.

>>12922924
I'll punch a cat if they do that. I don't think my CLs/DDs could evade that well.

>>12922906
I think the game is mocking me

>>12922928
More Egusa 99s. What's wrong with that?

>>12922826
Remember to keep 1 Nenohi and Wakaba from those failed craft.
You need it for the next chain.

Anyone here gonna be able to go to the loc test for Kancolle AC?

http://kancolle-a.sega.jp/

What is the minimum to say you've cleared the February event, to gain street cred?

>>12922875
So it will be 6th.

>>12922926
Tsus would be worse.

>>12922986
Just clear it to the best of your ability and it'll be fine. There were people who couldn't get past E-2 in summer because of ship locking mechanics and people who only got Akizuki last event, sometimes shit happens.

God forbid people discuss anything /jp/-related that's even slightly more broad than "which Kancolle would you fuck / sink / scrap / level to 99 / imprison in Orel for ten years" in the Kancolle thread. Remember, negative opinions are trolling!

>>12922785
Blogposting isn't more enjoyable than anything. It's basically the worst shit the fucking world.
Unless you did something fucking ridiculous like sink a married ship or cleared 5-5 through the south route or you're the first person in /jp/ to clear an event, chances are what you have to say is just not fucking interesting.

God forbid people discuss anything /jp/-related that's even slightly more broad than "which Kancolle would you fuck / sink / scrap / level to 99 / imprison in Orel for ten years" in the Kancolle thread. Remember, negative opinions are trolling, and /jp/ is a strict topic zone!

>>12922785
Blogposting isn't more enjoyable than anything, it's basically the worst in shit the fucking world. Unless you did something fucking ridiculous like sink a married ship or cleared 5-5 through the south route or you're the first person in /jp/ to clear an event, chances are what you have to say is just not fucking interesting.

Yeah, way back in the day, people blogged about forging their Kongou or clearing 2-4, but that's back when everybody in /jp/ was level fifteen and nobody knew which way was up, so those kinds of things were at least interesting and new.

>>12922986
Unless the event is hard and there's no level scaling you won't get any "street cred" for saying you beat the event.

The minimum to say that you cleared the event in my opinion is beating all the maps including extra operations. The max would be getting all the ships you want that drop from it.

You shouldn't care about "street cred" in the first place anyways.

>>12923011
So you want a dead thread?

>>12922986
There's only one ship worth any street cred at this point.

>>12922986
> cleared
IMO, all the maps: "E-6" is just a bonus.

>>12922986
None. There's no point in bragging lucky strokes in an event. The very least you can do is to share composition for clearing the map.

>>12923036
A "dead thread" is far more preferable to a thread that's kept alive solely by blog shit, just like a slow board is preferable to one that's kept fast solely by shitposting fun.

And especially so if it's a thread where everything that isn't blog shit is banned. Kantai Collection is a multimedia franchise and a cultural phenomenon as well as a game. It can be compared and contrasted to others. It's fucking ridiculous.

>>12922986
Do something like this http://imgur.com/a/p1Bko#20 . Clear final map with completely unremodeled ships, not even K1. I still wonder how that Fusofag managed to do that back in spring.

>>12923011
Well event posting is useful in a way, You can see different formations and try one out if another doesn't work for you. I agree though in posting stuff like clearing E-1 when the event is pretty much over.

>>12922986
It is going to be an easy event with all the new TTK from the anime. You can probably clear it with a lvl1 fleet if you are in the lowest bracket.

>>12923036
Not him but the over moderation of /jp/ is hilarious.
Eroge, Kancolle, Im@s and LL are all stuff that appeared in multiple medium yet if you post anything that isn't an imagedump chihaya thread you get sent to the trashbin.
It can only be attributed to autism.
Lets look at all the stuff happening
>No you can only post x in y
>Discussion go into discussion thread, this thread is for upload only

blogposting is infinitely better than reading this drama

>>12923071

Big part of it is janny's fault. Most of the people here were having a discussion and all of them noticed janny being a power-tripping faggot and now the thread has branched into meta-posting.

>>12923071
I like seeing other anon's progress.

>>12923069
Splitting the comiket threads into discussion and upload was a good idea though. At least, until everyone said fuck it and just used doujinstyle to have nicely sorted downloads.

>>12923071
You're entitled to express that opinion (the drama is pretty shit but it's not like, well, most of most threads aren't), but the staff shouldn't be forcing that opinion on the entirety of the board.

>>12923087
This whole discussion is going to vanish anyway but I recommend that you be courteous and respectful to moderation even if you think the decisions they made are retarded. Separate yourself from the real shitters.

>>12923087
>discussion
It was just a fanbase war started by an anon talking bullshit about people hating the anime.

>>12923052
The way I see it is that most of the deleted posts weren't about the game, the characters, mechanics, or artists. Just talk about "Why does x hate y"

Then I noticed the anime talk is also gone, which is a shame but oh well.

>>12923108

Anon asked a question which spurred a relatively sane discussion which janny deleted thus spurring worse meta-discussion of which I'm now reluctantly a part of.

>>12923115
And when X or Y is "Kancolle," then it becomes relevant to the thread. I don't see a "ONLY GAME DISCUSSION ALLOWED" banner plastered to the top of of the thread. The only times it ever got off-topic there is when someone dragged Love Live and IM@S into the conversation in a way that was still directly tied to the whole Kancolle thing - and even then it shouldn't fucking matter because both of those series were also declared /jp/ kosher in the first place.

You shouldn't need to explicitly make a "franchise comparison thread" to discuss these things (and when you do they usually get deleted anyway because apparently they're trolling or some shit.).

>>12923116
Anon aksed a fucking retarded question which was completely detached from reality and could seem logical only if he's gullible moron who believes whatever shitposters say. It spurred sad excuse of discussion which in reality was idiots claiming stupid stuff about fanbases and others trying to reason with them so they would finally stop and return to talking about the game.

I prefer new guys struggling with 1-4 to that.

>>12923127

Totally agree, however, janny handled it bad which is what I'm trying to get at.

Fuck, even a public warning would've been better. Look at the thread now, it's absolutely no better than it was before.

Thanks janny!

>>12923127
>idiots claiming stupid stuff
You could kill every argument anyone's ever had on 4chan like that. At least when retards and non-retards go at it you might learn something new (with the Touhou-Kancolle comparison, played out as it is, at least sometimes people bring new information about music, conventions, numbers, doujin circles, doujin culture in general, etc, etc, etc).

Nobody has ever learned anything interesting from someone complaining about how 1-4 is hard and he doesn't have any carriers.

Anyone know the Kanji for the recon-planes and the seaplane-bombers? I can't tell them apart and the wiki isn't helping as they only list the icons, which are the same.

Give it a rest now. Discussing this won't do any good to anyone.

>>12923139
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C1%F5%C8%F7

Knock yourself out.

>>12923138
Kancolle general is a thread made to help each others, anon.

Will these and the 8cm HA ever be useful? I've been keeping them since they're relatively rare, but post-20, I've mostly been scrapping/feeding Agano without removing these equipment.

>>12923139
Bomber: 水上爆撃機(水爆)
Recon/observation: 水上偵察機(水偵)

>>12923148
I don't mind helping who have made a serious, good-faith effort to exhaust the resources available to them. The wiki has a lot, and the archive has a shit ton more (I mean, every question /jp/ ever answered is there).

People should help those who help themselves.

>>12923138
>At least
You're forgetting about extremely severe disadvantages. Fanbase wars are one of the biggest offenders in killing 4chan.

Someone complaining about 1-4 doesn't give you anything but doesn't hurt you either. And he's talking about the game. The threads aren't there only to satisfy you. They're for other people as well. What's more, it's possible he'll learn his lesson, go read the wiki and month later come back as somewhat competent teitoku who can talk about one or two subjects. And three months after that he'll be 100+.

I'm bringing this back.

>>12923149
They will have the same fate as AA guns, not going to be useful anytime soon.

>>12923149
8HA can be useful on hotels when combined with AA director because +2 accuracy and enables AA cut-in and night battle DA.

>>12923140
Look, this shit didn't start today. It started over a year ago. Every time I try to encourage the thread to blog less and post more derivative work it starts some discussion which a staff member later comes along and wipes out. Every time anybody starts a franchise-comparison thread (or even a discussion) on /jp/ - between all-/jp/ franchises, even! - a staff member comes along and wipes it out. All of these discussions are directly relevant to Kancolle!

Look, cross-franchise comparison has been allowed for ages. Nobody ever got banned in 2009 for claiming that Key was shit, even in threads about Key visual novels, because back then everybody understood that it was okay for you to bash on things you don't like as long as you're not being an obnoxious dickweed about it.

I haven't enjoyed meta in years now, not after the traditional place for it was overrun by retards - but look, it's ludicrously frustrating that posts I make which are perfectly reasonable, such as >>12923158, get removed for being... insufficiently friendly? Catching the tail end of a purged discussion? Being written by me? If there are subrules within the rules, I'd at least like to know what they are.

I'm not some sort of freedom-of-speech fanatic, moot owns the site and his staff are allowed to run it as they see fit - I just don't see a fucking reason WHY the cross-franchise shit is banned, not only from these threads, but from all of /jp/. Every time anything even approaches it, existing thread, new thread, doesn't matter, it just disappears and I still haven't gotten a reason from the staff despite dozens of (civilly worded) inquiries to the feedback box stretching across months and months all the way back to before Ironbottom Sound.

kaga plsssss

>>12923207
That's what you get for marrying a crane before her.

>>12923207
>やりました

>>12923149
They can be useful for AA cut in, that's about it.

>>12923162
I didn't catch your post before looking in the archive, so I wasn't able to respond to it until now. Yes, I get the fucking position, it's clear as fucking day what it is even if I have no idea what the rationale is, I'll delete this post myself after a minute and a half if someone else doesn't get to it first.

>Fanbase wars are one of the biggest offenders in killing 4chan.
I can't recall that a single fanbase war had ever had any negative material impact on /jp/ in its entire history. If anything, having people intermittently bash on Touhou and F/SN and Umineko and whatever only ever made the community stronger.

>The threads aren't there only to satisfy you. They're for other people as well.
And that's great! I'm not saying, and never have said, that the mods should delete questions that are "too stupid." 1-4-san will never be getting his posts deleted even if he gets the occasional bit of hate and annoyance about stupid questions. These threads are big enough to accommodate everybody, right?

Except, apparently, they're not! There's a certain superset of topics that's that's just flat-out... banned without comment, and the historical record amended to show that none of it ever happened. What?

Don't remodel the subs to take advantage of low consumption/repair, right?

>>12923316
Remodel your first set and all Imuyas.

keep any duplicates that turn into SSV as base model.

>>12923323
What if I'm planning to only keep one set?

>>12923316
Remodeled still have low consumption and are actually capable of sinking opponents in one shot. Longer repairs are offset by better armor and evasion.

>>12923333
then remodel them all.

consumption increase is insignificant and evasion, armor and torpedo power all increase significantly with the remodel.

>>12923333
The only thing you lose when you remodel a sub is the repair timer. If they're not worth buckets, don't remodel.

Holy shit, this is hard. But also pretty and sounds very nice.

>>12923354
Where the hell did you get this one from outside events?

>>12923373
Didn't he just upgrade his type 91?

>>12923373
E1. My first remodeled piece of equipment. Catching the star at right moment proved to be the biggest challenge.

>>12923388
>Catching the star at right moment proved to be the biggest challenge.

Autism

>>12923383
I'll need to get an AA director ready in time for the Feb event.

Nachi K2 looking decent or better is a given but how will Hatsushimo K2 look? I hope her K2 sprite looks cuter, so that I manage to motivate myself to level her.

>>12923474
When Yadokari learns how to draw.

Been having pretty bad crafting luck the last few days. Currently stuck on 2-4.

What should I focus on trying to level to try and get to world 3 so I can unlock me some BBs?

As a side note, I cannot even get the 3 sendai sisters to drop so I can get my third fleet.

>>12923559
I get BBs fairly regularly on 3-2-A. There's a lot of crap mixed in though, so you'd need a bunch of runs.

>>12923559
You should be able to get all Sendai at 1-1 boss node. If you want minimal cost, sortie a DD of your choice, then the rest are 2-3 DD meatshields/disposable.

Run Expedition 5 all the time, do your dailies, less sorties, stockpile for a bit, then craft maybe 2-3BBs and 2-3CVs. Alternatively, sortie to 2-2 and hope for BBs, Kaga, and Soryuu.

Do some grinding at 2-4-A until all of your fleet is remodeled. You can get Ooi there, then try to clear 2-4. 3-2-A will be your grinding spot forever.

>>12923605
I'll keep grinding 1-1 then. I have been working on dailies and buckets for the event, should have 30some by the time the night ends.

>Do some grinding at 2-4-A until all of your fleet is remodeled.
Any suggestions to deal with the morale drain? Sparkle everyone first?

>>12923612
Use KCV and see your ships' fatigue. Always sortie when you have 40-49 morale.

>>12923612
Yeah just keep everyone sparkled

>>12923559
You already have 2 BB and 1 CV. You can fill the rest with CVL/CA. More than enough for 2-4 if you fully modernise and train them past remodel. Looking at this will help: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/World_2#World_2-4:_.E6.B2.96.E3.83.8E.E5.B3.B6.E6.B5.B7.E5.9F.9F_Okinoshima_Island

I think he had uploaded most (all?) of these previously, but it's still nice reading them all in one place.

[コーヒー飲み過ぎ (ビリー)] ネッコレ下

>>12923701
Me clearing E-6 without breaking a sweat.

>there are still people on /jp/ who seriously believe kancolle discussion is not being suppressed by butthurt 2hushitters

>>12923775
I like both Kancolle and Touhou. What are you going to do now?

>>12923785
call u an idort, idort

>>12923622
Which KCV should be used? I found one with a translation, but I heard that the one with the translation could caused you to get banned?

>>12923828
None.
KCV is made of shit and bloat.
It doesn't add anything to the game either.

>>12923828
>the one with the translation could caused you to get banned
Bullshit. It's not a mod or hack of the game or anything, there is nothing illegal about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-EsDfTK3gs

>>12923828
>>12923841
It totally can, I suggest moving to japan like everyone else in this thread did

>>12923850
>>12923837
Why do you people constantly reply to this shit?

Is it because you want to troll someone? Are the threads that dull?

>>12923860
Or, maybe, y'know, like, KCV is legitimately shit

>>12923860

Janny removed the interesting conversations and banned 50% of the posters in this thread.

Having opinions and conversations on the jay is not allowed.

>>12923867
What do you suggest instead? It has my timers, ship list, resource logs, and alerts, I don't need any thing fancy. What would you suggest?

>>12922924
With gauge regen for the last map?

Would be fun.

>>12923911
They don't need that, just make it like the arpeggio event where you needed clean kills to drain the hp gauge.

>>12923911
Abyss support fleet when?

>>12923917
Something tells me that'd probably be for spring.

>>12923934
Should be up by summer latest.

>>12923934
After Abyss AA cut-in

>kt

Girls are fat

>>12923998
That's perfectly normal weight.

>>12923900
Its perfectly fine, 4chins always has memeposters everywhere. I probably stare at the UI more than I do the actual game screen.

>>12924105
>memeposters
:^)

>>12923998
I noticed that too. Too bad no one used it. I wonder what it is made out of?

>>12923841
>there is nothing illegal about it.
Heh. DMM has the power send c&d letter to Grabacr07 if they really wanted to.

>>12923911
I think gauge regen won't be implemented anymore.
If they still have plan to use it, probably for limited event which drops Shinano.

Finally, finally I found a good place to grind 5 destroyers at the same time. Good bye 4-1, it was fun while it lasted.

>>12923911
Tell me again, why would anyone actually believe this was actually Tanaka-san?

>>12924374
Ones can simply dream, anon-kun.

>>12924356
where?

>want to start playing
>dont understand any moonspeak whatsoever
>dont know how to sign up correctly
>afraid of being banned for being american
>tfw forever secondary

Double flagship late model Re kai at the bossnode. Also a sub and 2 nokaga.
Your move, /jp/

>>12924380
5-1 D. Hell, even 6DD work. 4-1 overall was a better place, but scratches pile up way too fast.

>>12924386
>dont understand any moonspeak whatsoever
Use English KCV.

>dont know how to sign up correctly
Read the wiki.

>afraid of being banned for being american
No you won't.

>>12924386
>read the fucking wiki
>KCV helps immensely, with its item and quest translations
>RTFW
>you won't be
>man up, you little bitch

Why are Isuzu's so delicious?

>>12924386
>Read the wiki
>English KCV, wiki, or start doing your reps
>wiki again
>You won't be. Lurk some more.
>Stay bad and stay mad

>>12924386
You act like most people here live in Japan and can read moonspeak perfectly.

>>12924415
You act like they don't :^3

>>12924405
>KCV helps immensely, with its item and quest translations
Except when it fucks up the quests and their translations 90% of the time forcing you to learn them anyway.

>>12924415
where do you think you are

>>12924426
>using KCV
>not using the wiki when in doubt

>>12924429
Where people use crapware like KCV unironically.

>>12924426
I don't know what the fuck are you talking about, I've been using it for two months now and I've never encountered such an issue.
Is that really a thing or are you just an epic trole?

>>12924415

You don't even need KCV to play.
Back then, you only have flash player and machine-translated version of atwiki&wikiwiki to work your way into kancolle.

>>12924308
I would bet it will return eventually and then an entire new generation of teitoku will know 絶望

>>12924449
Speaking of which, I didn't attend the fall event.
Did it bring any despair to the admirals here?

>>12924408
Is their boobs.

>>12924471
Yeah, to really new ones who didn't manage to get Prinz Eugen. And to some others who were fruitlessly hunting for Asagumo. I guess that's about it.

>>12924479
Poor souls.

I'm not looking forward to Prinz being available as a drop. I would be royally fucked by the extra copies. She's just too cute to be used as a mod mat or scrap fodder.

>>12924485
But then you could level an Eugen and modernize her with only Eugen's. She has to stay pure, made out of 100% Eugen.

>>12924485
You mean as LSC ship.
And 5-5 S rank boss drop.

I'm not sure if she'll be available as drop/LSC too soon, her eq is broken. Maybe 5-5 boss S drop as >>12924492 said.

Prinz Eugen is a qt.
I hope she will appear on LSC soon.

>>12924471
The 2014 one? not much besides a handful that joined too late or didnt stockpile/have time.

The spring event was significantly harder because of the guarenteed pre-boss BB-hime, Boss had BB-hime blocker, and torpedo goddesses couldn't clutch cut-in vs Wake-chan.

>>12924506
Cutest ass

Farmable Prinz would kill 20.3 (2), 20.3 (3) and 15.5 yellow guns, making three best classes even more powerful. Not to mention the radars.

>>12924516
Yeah I really can't see that happening.

>>12924516
>>12924497
This is why I can see some "if you never had her before" drop rule, like for Akashi

>>12924516
15.5 yellow are pretty much dead now because of akashi improvement and the plethora of methods to get the improved 20.3.

>>12924525
That's a good, reasonable idea.

>>12924525
or they just stick her someone only lunatics will be willing to farm her from like 5-5 S-rank only.

hell even 5-3 s-rank only would be exceedingly challenging to get.

>>12924537
But there's no point in that.
If they ever add her as a drop, the point would be more to make her available to players who missed out on the chance to get her (due to starting late or fucking up or whatever). Putting her on 5-5 S wouldn't serve that purpose.

>>12924552
This. Devs don't keep rare/event only ships are exclusive prizes.
They want any admiral to have a chance to complete their collection.

It doesn't make sense whatsoever that Purin would be a very hard map drop. It is nonsensical in contrast to what they were doing up to now.

>>12924552
They would also add her to drop pool if she gets Zwei. Not a single ship you can't get normally has K2, and I doubt devs would change that.

>>12924591
What items would she get at Zwei?

>>12924625
Navel and more ass when damaged

>However, records state that Prinz Eugen carried the FuMO 81 Berlin-S Radar instead of the FuMO 25. Spec wise, the FuMO 81 was far superior, as it had a 50% wider range.
Okay.

>>12924643
They must be saving it for kai2

>>12924625
>>12924643
That could be one of them.

I want to fill my kantaidex, but I also don't want to ruin my Yamashiro with ugly K2 graphics. Why do the artists do this? It was the same with Kongo.

>>12924698
Fusou's is much worse.

>>12924698
Yamashiro is a total shit anyway why do you care

>>12924698
There's nothing wrong with her kai2.

>>12924698
Fusous Kai Ni look better.

>>12924698
Dunno what you're talking about, Fusous, K2 or not, are the only kanmusu whose sprites make my eyes bleed. Oh wait, no, there's also Oboro.

>>12924698
Level a spare Yamashiro and then scrap her. That's what I did with Kongous, Hibiki, Jun'you. kept my main ones at K1 and scrapped the ones I grinded to K2.
It's not rocket science, Jim.

>>12924698
I didn't like kongou's kai2 at first, then I upgraded her and it grew on me.

>>12924761
>scrapped bep
You what son?

>>12924795
Her original sprite looks better.

I challenged a mid level BB and CV in PVP. Pretty much everyone got rekt. But one ship manage to get out alive, intact, with full hp. That ship is Shigure 'The PTSD' Sasebo. I shit you not, men.

>>12924845
It's an indicator that you should marry her.

>>12924845
いい雨だね

>>12924845
this >>12924860
so do the responsible thing.

>>12924860
>>12924866
>>12924870
I challenged a PVP again. This time Hibiki survived with full hp just like Shigure in previous battle. But Hibiki is my flag ship, although I just use the usual 1st formation.

>>12924888
>usual 1st formation
Good admiral

>>12924525
>This is why I can see some "if you never had her before" drop rule, like for Akashi
Doesn't that only apply to 2-5?

>>12924956
I don't know but that means they have the ability to do it.

Subs don't know where the fuck they're going.

>>12925042
Destroy transport ships

>>12924708
She used to MVP madly and I grew to like her line.

>>12924761
I actually have a leveled spare Kongo. But not sure I want too many duplicates since I have trouble with space.

>>12925105
Kongou

>>12924516
You can't put stars on Oigen guns. Until then, 3gou hits harder.

>>12925105
>duplicates
I said level spare copy to K2, get dex entry and scrap her. All those remodels are low level, you can get a girl to level 80 in 2 weeks just by doing screw weeklies, let alone purposefully grinding.

Devs should fix the HQ exp scaling based on victory rank at the boss node (S, A, B). As it is right now, it's fairly broken.

>>12924860
Everyone should marry Shigure. She's a good girl.

>>12925210
Are you whoring your wife or do you hate her and want her to be with kusos?

>>12925210
I wanted to level Yuudachi and Shigure at the same rate, so I could marry them both at the same time. But life had other plans.

Got Kongou, now at 2-4, got another Kongou via build.

I hope Mutsu drops at 2-4 boss.

>>12925171
The difference is barely noticeable.

>>12925263
She won't

>>12925274
Why are you mean? RNG-sama?

>>12925271
That's exactly the problem that needs fixing.

>>12925278
>>12925171
What's wrong with that? Everyone's getting that same barely noticeable rate, so it's not like anyone's at a disadvantage.

>>12925276
You'll be swimming in snails when you start LSC. Already got 2 in 10 Yamato tries and another one from min.

This little shit. Every week when trying to get the 3 boss A ranks. Z1 was at 85 morale, even. I'd almost rather have the boss-node fleet here.

>>12925284
People that haven't cleared 5-4 can abuse that at 5-4 with subs for ranking, which is what many top ranking players do. Those who cleared 5-4 will have a much harder time gaining rank points.

>>12925302
It might be easy to get B rank on boss node with the fleet there locked to one without DD/CLs, but the hardest part of using the subs route is getting to the boss.

Using a proper fleet, the resource consumption is higher, but the time spent grinding rank is considerably shorter. I suppose the subs route is better if one's even scripting 5-4, but otherwise, for the regular top 300~500s, I can't see the subs route being abusable.

>>12925299
>fielding BOYS in your sorties

based abyssal sub doing work

I refuse to believe anything better than Furutaka drops at 1-5.

>>12925380
HQ level 80.

>>12925387
HQ level 96.

>>12925380
Don't worry, the best you'll ever get with sub/rare DD crafting is Tone.

anyone have any idea what level hatsushimo will need to be for kai ni? would 65 be a safe bet or shall i just balls it straight to 70?

>>12925399
She should be Ushio tier in stats so I doubt anything higher than 60.

>>12925399
Considering her oldest sister was a 65 remodel and was sunk 2nd to last of their class...it could be anywhere between 60-68-ish?

>>12925302
You do know that those who don't clear 5-4 lock themselves out of doing 5-5, right?

Not to mention that the abuse you speak of can easily be fixed by simply adding DDs/CLs to the initial form.

>>12925437
Final form. Initial form has ASW-capable ships.

>>12925450
Well then add CLs to the final form and problem solved.

>>12925455
There's no problem in the first place, no one is retarded enough to grind it with subs.

Boss flagship at 2-4 one shotted my Hiyou. I'm kuso/10.

>>12925458
The guy who brought it up seems retarded enough.

Come to think of it, replacing the elite CVLs with flagship CVLs works too.

Are the fucking servers overloaded because I sure only get error cats trying to get in

inb4 "hurrr banned durrr muh durrr"

>>12925466
Dailies reset at 5

Let's do our best this week as well!

>>12925468
I never had an issue getting in at daily reset before. Not in all the 14 months I've been playing

>>12925458
>>12925462
Well to be fair to him, I've seen some nips do it on niconico streams with married subs, with a couple of pages of high level subs to rotate out

>>12925473
It's simply waste of resources. Exp is a resource too, mind yoy. Maybe I'm just a kike, but using subs, let alone having few pages of them, is incredibly inefficient.

Two married Taigeis on my pvp list today. One vanilla and one Ryuuhou. Such a fine selection of TTK.

>>12925483
Yeah, I get what you mean. I also don't keep extra subs around like that. Well, I don't have the slots for them anyways.

>>12925490
I saw one guy with married Ryuuhou and Ryuuhou Kai plus Taigei ~60. I really like those guys.

>>12925437
5-5 is very minor when you can gain that and more in a day of grinding 5-4 with subs at the final form, all while wasting less resources. Adding some ASW ships to the final form would fix that, as well, yes.

>>12925458
It's not retarded, it's the most cost efficient way of grinding rank points there is. If the gap between the 1st/2nd and 9th/10th ranked players and is some several thousand points, you can see how much better it is to do 5-4 with subs at her final form for ranking, rather than using a "cheap" fleet with the north route.

>>12925483
> 5-5 is very minor when you can gain that and more in a day of grinding 5-4 with subs at the final form
BS. The only ones earning more than 200 points a day are the top 3 in each server, if that. 100 succesful sorties with subs is not possible for anyone not running 24/7 sortie script. 5-5 is anything but minor for ranking.

>>12925685
>100 succesful sorties with subs is not possible for anyone not running 24/7 sortie script
BS. It's just 8 hours 20 minutes worth of time. There's enough time left to go to school/work even.

>>12925685
>The only ones earning more than 200 points a day are the top 3 in each server, if that.
That's we're aiming for.

>100 succesful sorties with subs is not possible for anyone not running 24/7 sortie script.
It is pretty easy to accomplish when only the first node can make you retreat. Even if you can pull 150 rank points per day, it's still surpasses the one time 200 point reward from 5-5.

>>12925777
Pretty sure most people ranking wiped out 5-4 back before people discovered the sub trick and weren't autistic enough to grind up a new account just to use it.

>>12925744
> It's just 8 hours 20 minutes worth of time.
Where the fuck are you getting this 12 sorties an hour with 100% success rate figure? Lying on the internet is bad.

>>12925777
> That's we're aiming for.
Top 3 (well, top 5 going by ranking awards)? If this doesn't affect anyone, including top 5 (because they are scripting everything already), how is it broken?

Also, the third node can and will put someone in the red.

>>12925871
> how is it broken?
To clarify, this is regarding the post that started this debate.

>>12925855
You underestimate some of those no-lifing jip japs.

>>12925871
It still does affect them, scripting or not, because if they had to use a real fleet, they wouldn't be several thousand points ahead of the people less than 5 spots below them. There would be a higher chance of the top 3/5 being different people every month, allowing others a chance at getting the good monthly rewards as well.

As for broken, I guess it's the node that's more broken than the exp system. Though with the microscopic exp difference between S, A and B it makes you wonder why they even have it at all. Not sure if the devs intentionally did this or if they intended something else but messed up.

>>12925871
Subs should go B->F->I->L->N->O unless I'm missing something. I scrappsubs at sight so I can't check. Only 2 nodes can force retreat, node F and node I. If anyone goes to red at N you can safely advance since nothing can hit subs there. Node F can only red someone with lolcrit. Node I has only one formation that can attack subs, and even then your subs have 2 chances to wreck those destroyers first. Odds are, you'll pass those 2 nodes 90% of time.
Usually the battle animation would take about 1 minute. Back when I was grinding E5 subs nodes I timed the time it took, 1 minute 20 seconds on average, not counting night battle I was going at around 23-27 sorties per hour there for a whole day without breaks to make this. 5 minutes should be enough to complete the 5-4 run.

>>12925912
> nothing can hit subs there
Nothing can hit subs at boss node.

>>12925912
I see. I thought Elite Nu could attack subs, but due to the little damage they do, a B rank is secured. Now that I've realised that third node red is okay, that does increase the success rate quite a bit. However, it's still not 100% (thanks to the 1st node), and 4 nodes with battle animation + all the confirmation + moving animation, and THEN there's the resuplying, repairing, rotating, sending out expeditions. 8 hours 20 minutes is anything but realistic even to the biggest nolifer.

>>12925902
> There would be a higher chance of the top 3/5 being different people every month, allowing others a chance at getting the good monthly rewards as well.
> broken
Okay, this makes sense.

Can I remodel Chitose to her Kai and then to her A form 2 levels later, or do I have to choose?

>>12923844
I love that song.

This are good too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z42yftFIHdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9cjBYvC3xg

>>12926006
It's linear, and you can refit her any time you want, one refit at a time, given that her level's high enough for each of the refits.

>>12926012
Goddamn. Did these tracks always have this much bass or did the uploader go trigger happy with the EQ switches?

>>12926002
It would still make that less then 10 hours, 11 hours at worst. Enough time left to part-time work, you don't need to be a full-blown NEET to do this.
>I thought Elite Nu could attack subs
You was talking this whole time about how great final form is because nothing can attack subs.

I didn't think the marriage futon quest could be this frustrating.

And once again complaining on /jp/ works like a charm. I even got the easy node.

>>12926098
What map is this? 4-3?

>>12926126
Yes.

>>12926129
What the fuck are you trying to accomplish with that composition then?

>http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_Leveling
I wish I could strangle the ones who wrote it. I understand that wikia is full of half-hearted articles and it has no useful information whatsoever but come on, now they are not even trying.

Kiso or Kitakami?

My fleet can only have one.

I know Kiso has worse luck, but the better AA stat is tempting...

>>12926137
>My fleet can only have one.
Why? You'd be stupid not to keep both.

>>12926137
>picking girls by stats
Disgusting.

>>12926137
Kiso never failed me

>>12926137

Both. Don't be a fag.

>>12926135
What would be a better leveling reference? I just started last week and don't have a clue.

>>12926132
Get my futon, which I did.

>>12926146
Normally I pick by hat, but that would be unfair in the scenario, so I am trying to fall back to something quantifiable.

>>12926135
What's so bad about this?

>>12926151
I've never seen a single decent guide in english so you're out of luck.

>>12926166
Could you link me a good guide in Japanese then?

>>12926164
Suggested compositions, guide and tips are pants on head retarded, like they've been written by someone who played the game only few days.
>>12926170
I don't know japanese.

>>12926135
Looks fine to me.

>>12926189
Gamefaq faqs look fine to you too, don't they?

>>12926180
I only skimmed it but 3-2A looks fine. 5-4A was bad because it suggested Yamato but seriously, you can figure that out yourself. It points to the right places, use the sortie page to plan accordingly.

>>12926194
I wouldn't know. I don't know what Gamefaq is.

>>12926194
If you can make a better guide, then do it yourself. There's no need to become an elitist retard because of it since we knew already what are the effective grinding spots and their recommended compo.

>>12926194
Wait, so what's bothering you is the fact that a leveling guide exits and not the fact that it's bad in some areas?

>>12926196
>3-2A looks fine
No it doesn't. There's no point in bringing carriers at all if you bring sub and BB, even 4 destroyers would knock down everything there in 2 shelling phases in red T. Artillery spotting? CAV/BBV take care of that. No info on MVP control whatsoever. Advising to fully knit carriers so they would steal MVP to boot.And so on, and so on.
>>12926204
Nice strawman.
>>12926205
It's bad in most areas. Why bother making something this bad, that's what bothering me. I can't understand what drives people to do something if they clearly can't do that properly.

Hm. Did they fix the transport quest?

>>12926242
They're don't know enough to realize they don't know

>>12926245
No, I hope they don't.

>>12926256
I just went north on 2-3 with both the weekly and the daily quest selected and it didn't get completed. Before it always did.

>>12926259
The bug is with the 5 transport daily.

>>12926265
As far as I remember, it also used to trigger when you had the weekly and the daily transport selected. But now that you mention it... I'm not sure anymore

>>12926242
>elitist retard

>>12926276
No I think he's just really bored.

>>12926270
It didn't.

God damn it game, give me Musashi first. The useless trophy CLs can come afterward.

>>12926289
Yahagi is a good girl.

>>12926276
You forgot "nitpicking" part.

>>12926270
As I remember, it never work with weekly quest

>>12926170
http://kankoreshuukai.blog.jp/archives/1410107.html
Old, but still useful.

>>12926326
Thanks. Looks to be much more useful than the list on the wiki.

I really want the full version of this already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFJY93pU1sk

Where i can level up this fleet fast?

>>12926491
Rename your fleet first.

>>12926491
3-3 weekly.

>>12926532
T-thanks.

>>12926491
Change your fleet name kuso

>>12926496
>>12926586
Show us your fleets

>>12926491
>>12926559
Sendai must be in flagship spot if you're using her.

>>12926491
You have 2 CV so you only have to load them with torpedo bombers and go to 3-2. The ennemy will be in pretty bad shape even before they can launch a single shell.

>>12926602
Yes, i know.
Also, I was trying the northern route in 4-1 and Shoukaku got like 3000 exp because of MVP.

fatalpulse subs when
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?illust_id=48258889&mode=medium

Is it worth running expedition 9 for fuel? It seems like the box and bucket rng could make it worthwhile if I was lucky since I don't have enough drums to run 21 and 38 at the same time.

2/5/21 doesn't yield as much fuel as I hope it would, after deducting the cost for 2.

>>12926907
why are you not running 2/5/38?

>>12926924
I need fuel/ammo since I'm grinding; buckets for the event 2(?) weeks later. Steel's at a reasonable number so I'm not that worried. I'll try 38 tomorrow night.

How do I 改造?

How much buckets did everyone spend for the previous event?
More than 500 buckets?