/jp/ - Otaku Culture

New guy from last thread here, Just finished building my 3rd ship. Going for 4 DD for quest then thinking of picking up some BBs and CVs.

Got Yayoi, According to the wiki it's a small chance which is neat. I guess my RNG is good?

>>12894549
treat her well, you'll need her for certain quest later in game.

>>12894549
Grats on Flatchouli. Focus on keeping your finances in check while clearing as many quests as possible, don't bother grinding yet.

>>12894589
>Focus on keeping your finances in check
Only retards spend money on shitty browsergames.

>>12894596
I think he meant resources.
However, paying a bit for a game that you enjoy isn't that bad. I actually recommend 1-2 repair slots and more space for ships. 100 isn't that much if you want to catch them all.

>>12894615
fuck off DMM shill

>>12894615
this, if you have high interest in this game after a week or two, might as well support them. Besides, it save you a lot of trouble

>>12894596
Not like you're going to spend it on going out with friends.

>>12894642
>shills shilling shills

/jp/ is kill

Kancolle goes to /a/. wrong board

>>12894655
Nice meme.

I'm confused. Am I supposed to stop using destroyers at some point or am I doing things extremely wrong here?

I concluded that the gun-equipments are the main factor on doing damage (smaller 12.7 guns only scratched enemies), and these destroyers are unable to equip anything larger.

If I want to kill anything, that left me with Heavy Cruisers and higher. Which ate up my fuel resource. On top of that, two sorties and 3/6 ships are fatigued.

Am I doing something wrong here?

>>12894680
No.
Destroyers are the backbone of the fleet.
For the end game, most people do not sortie more than 1BB.
Fleet composition is usually like this
Mandatory 1BB or no BB if easy map like 2-2 daily.
Enough CV/CVL for air superiority
CLT/CA(V)/CL/DD fillers and compass fixing.

>>12894691
And then there's combined fleet which will mostly be DD/CL/CLT. One of the biggest mistakes people make is not investing enough into light ships.

>>12894691
Thanks, I'm not used to the jargon yet, so I'll digest your reply with wiki help later.

So what should I do to be able to use DD effectively? Keep leveling them?

I haven't played in about a year and I'm just getting back. What are the best options for grinding now?

>>12894655
>>12894656
>/a/ tells us to go to /jp/
>/jp/ tells us to go to /a/
I told you guys we should have gone to /vg/

>>12894705
Just don't react to obvious bait and everything's fine.

>>12894705

Also new guy somehow luckily got in even 18 minutes after tweet time/open time. I guess that's where I spent all my luck because both BB construction yielded me Hiei after Hiei and I want to cry.

>>12894837
Time based RNG, people.

>>12894837
>BB construction
Dummy, that's what you have 4-1 for.

>>12894849
I wish I was there. But again, I have only been a kuso TTK for 2 days.

>>12894849
Have you gotten Mutsu from 4-1 before, anon?

Is 2-2 the best place to farm BB?

>>12894875
Yamato recipe is the best way to get BB.

>>12894875
3-2-A is decent.

I said sparkling to 85 was important for 6-1 monthly, but apparently it doesn't matter for this friend of mine who doesn't even need to bother sparkling for 6-1. And yet his success rate is as good as mine, if not higher.

And it's his first time tackling the quest, too. Fucking RNG.

>>12894849
To be fair, doing 3-2 first node or 2-3 with subs gives you BB as well, so 4-1 isn't that necessary, really.

Besides, s/he might get Nagato/Mutsu or Suzuya/Kumano. So BB construction is okay.

What do you use your CA's for? My HQ is only level 47, but I've yet to have any use for them. Are they more useful later in the game?

>>12894980
Compass requirement. Cheap alternative to BB. 2-5. And so on.

>>12894980
This question is valid before the seaplane update. After this update, CA becomes a really decent class. It's basically cheaper version of BB with additional torpedo power.

>>12894980
They're better BBs, BBs are overkill for the majority of maps and CAs get the same job done with way less resource use. Also when it comes to boss nodes in events they're better than most battleships and CLs.

>>12894982
>>12894987
>>12894999
It makes sense when you say that, kind of dumb of me not realize that earlier. Maya will be happy to hear about this.

I'm in the game and I feel like I need some guide on gitting gud. Stuff like how to make best use of each class etc

>>12894950
sparkling is not a placebo. it's just plain useless in sorties.

>>12895003
Maya's even better. She got good AA power as well. Good choice.

>>12895011
Hate to say this, but experiment and learn to read wiki. It's wall of texts, but you gotta go through them if you can't read moon and hate experimenting.

>>12894980
With artillery spotting, they are as good as BBs since BBs are overkill for most of the enemies.

Something most people overlook when comparing CA and BB is that CAs have the ability to launch a closing torpedo salvo, potentially sinking 3 ships during day battle, where a BB would have sunk at most 2, which could have made a difference in the boss node.

You can also setup high luck CAs for night time cut-ins when Kitakami-sama gets cockblocked by a sub.

Also during times when you might not want a second round of shelling, CAs fill the roles of BBs in your fleet nicely.

>>12895013
I can read moon no problem. But my experiments are just mostly telling me "your destroyers trash too easily". I've been living in the wiki the last few days.

Sorry to be that guy.

>>12895011
I have a couple very nice and comprehensive starter guides that really helped me, but they are in Russian.

>>12895017
Everyone shouted "read wiki you moron" at me before, but that was really what I need to do, so that's why I tell you to do so as well.

I have to keep reading wiki for few days, but that's somewhat normal to understand this game.

FYI, destroyer is indeed shit at the beginning. But later on, they are fearsome at night battle when fully modernized. Seriously, don't take them lightly.

>>12895024
Is having 2 BBs in the first three worlds starting off a waste on repair/performance ratio?

>Nagato/Mustsu drop never

>>12895028
Mutsu is common as fuck. I had to wait for Nagato for almost a year, though.

>>12895028
Next event soon.

>>12895028
Not really, do world 4 or 5 or events. They can drop Nagato/Mutsu. Very rarely.

I was raging so much when I got them at event because I already have them, and I wanted something else at that time.

>>12895026
You really need BB for world 2 and 3.

You might finish world 1 without BB at all. If I had to use BB on world 1, I would only use BB on 1-4. Using BB on 1-1, 1-2 and 1-3, you really are wasting resources.

>>12895033
Maybe try LSC with the cheapest possible resource. I got my Nagato that way

>>12895028
Had 3 Nagatos in my entire time playing and probably over 10 Mutsus by now. LSC loves giving them in place of the hotels and bismarck.

>>12895039
>Maybe try LSC with the cheapest possible resource. I got my Nagato that way
Past tense means I already have her. I got her in summer event. I had done min LSC and farming quite a bit before that, though.

>>12895026
Cleared the whole of worlds 1 and 2 without a single BB or sub (and that was before artillery spotting was a thing, mind you), and even in world 3 you'll only need one BB tops, and that's for 3-4. Maybe they'll come in handy for 2-4 but that's it.

You don't even need a BB for 3-3; 4 CA 2 CV is enough.

Adding to the BB discussion, sometimes bringing a BB can actually be a massive burden for some maps where you're forced to use lighter ships and want them to survive till the boss. Forcing them to go through a second shelling phase against carriers for example can be a nightmare.

>>12895046
>>12895039
Last spoonfeeding question. Do my ships' positions matter aside from the second round in combat? As in, anyway to make let the thinner ships get hit less?

>>12895055
Fifth spot gets targeted by torpedoes the most.

Any tips on clearing 5-3? I'm not sure which fleet composition to go for

>>12895055
Flagship protection.

>>12895064
A good mix of CAs and DDs, probably more heavy on DDs though as evasion matters more when everything can 1 shot you anyway. Night battle gear also help a lot, just make sure to put the searchlight on the flagship.

>>12895055
>aside from the second round in combat
Also night battle.
>to make let the thinner ships get hit less?
Flagship get hit less. Otherwise are just superstition.

>>12895042
Oh. Grammars, grammars, grammars. Well, maybe someone else could try getting Nagato from LSC instead.

>>12895055
What do you mean by second round in combat? The torpedo salvo or 2nd shelling phase? (which is only possible if there's at least 1 BB on either side)

Anyway, 1st ship in fleet gets flagship protection.

Also, night battle turns goes from top to bottom no matter what. So you really wanna put carriers at bottom because they do nothing at night battle.

With artillery spotting, they pretty much make BB useless as long as you have air power.
Double attack CA will provide comparable shelling power. There really isn't really much map where you will need more than 1BB except for 5-5 and 3-4 imo.

>>12895097
Bah, these days 3 CA 1 BB 2 CV will probably be enough to clear 3-4.

>>12895100
3-4 always had it's difficulty over stated anyway, most of it was praying the compass wouldn't take you the wrong way.

>>12895097
This guy again.

So, is KCTool dead?
Should i start using KancolleViewer instead?

>>12895110
But he's quite right.

>>12895114
Yes.

>>12894693
You just need 2 DD and a CL for this. Guess what the main fleet is filled with.

>>12895110
He has a point, battleships are as useless in game as they were in real life.

>>12895064
All subs

New guy, been playing for 4 days. Reached 2-1. while farming Expedition 1-5.
Whats best equipment for 2-1. Tried clearing with 1CV, 1 CVL, 2 CA, 1 CL, 1 DD. No luck getting to boss nod.
Air radar and torpedos dont seem to do much. But i may just be stupid. (I have no BB, becuase RNG)

I'm seeing so many new guys. Is this anime magic?

>>12895122
>>12895118
Post yours.

>>12895124
I'm at the same at day 3. Can't unlock 2-2 for some reason.

>>12895128
Been trying lottery for a week before start. I'd imagine it would have been harder to get in after anime airing because more people would jump in. But I got in by pure luck without alarm etc.

>>12895121
Cruisers?

>>12895128
It's pretty nice to see. It might be annoying to some but it means people are making an effort not to be secondaries.

>>12895064
>>12895123
1 sub is enough.

>>12895128
Looks like it. There was a 10k slots lottery just some days back, after all.

>>12895134
Nice fleet name.

>>12895130
I got all except Isokaze because I couldn't sink the hime, and most people were advising against using BBs in E6 anyway.

You have a point though, didn't think of event maps.

>>12895122
CA can do the job but BB are nowhere near useless.

>>12895121
See >>12895132
my main fleet was mostly filled with heavy cruisers too at the HQ 100+ difficulty.

>>12895139
They are scrubs. Kitakami 3BB 2CVL fucked double hime over.

>>12895139
>didn't think of event maps
Most not extra operation maps are easy.

>>12895136
This is mine.

>>12895134
How is this possible?

>>12895134
It's not mine though.

>>12895148
With love anything is possible.

>>12895144
Last event was maximum easy mode, though. Retreated maybe once on the last map.

>>12895136
It's not mine though.

>>12895148
Hachi makes it to boss node unscathed. Her opening torp sinks the transport ship, then DDs crit Hachi to red.

>>12895148
Retard RNG.

>>12895145
They still cleared it without BBs anyway, so I wouldn't really call them scrubs. Some even S ranked double hime without BBs.

>>12895146
Well yeah, but BBs can really come in handy in many EOs, as well as some of the harder non-EO maps.

Yamashiro really needs to shut the fuck up about onee-sama.

>>12895167
Ring her.

>>12895132
>>12895144
I thought cruisers would count as heavier ships.

>>12895169
>implying that'll stop her

>>12895167
Why?

>>12895167
>anon angry because no waifu drop yet

>>12895174
Quote?

tfw I can no longer watch WW2 naval documentaries without seeing my shipdaughter's faces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q955i7l8mxg&feature=player_detailpage&t=406

Is it just me or does 2-4 bloat your HQ exp as hard as 1-5? I haven't unlocked 4-3 yet so I am looking for alternative leveling spots besides 3-2-A.

>>12895176
I feel absolutely awful when playing Battlestations Pacific now. It'd weird how thinking of the thousands of crew on board does nothing to me but associating the ship itself with the kanmusu makes me feel guilty.

>>12895179
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Experience_and_Rank

Is 86% good for a new kuso TTK?

>>12895180
Play using the IJN.

Some newfag janitor trying to become new meido. Who are you quoting is jaypee culture. Lurk more.

>>12895184
Is this sortie rating? Keep in mind that events will bar admirals below a certain victory rate from participating. Just sparkle your destroyers a little and you'll be fine.

If it's about PvP or Expedition, your success rate is unimportant. As an early TTK I'd argue a low PvP is expected, as many veteran players who quit will still leave ships far mroe high-leveled than you.

>>12895202
don't bully him, he's only been on the jay for as long as he's been a janitor here (3 months)

>>12895202
>[deleted]

Excellent.

>>12895180
Skip ahead to 6:45 where they start listing the ships involved for maximum guilt, then to 22:05 when they list the american ships and DOUBLE DOWN on the guilt for not having any girl-love towards them.
>no upper-class fancy hotel-ish design for Astoria

>>12895174
>>12895171
That's fine and all, but are you quoting?

>>12894837
You scared the heck out of me. Please don't misuse the spoiler feature.

Holy hell, I didn't ask for scrubs wanting to get spoonfed in these threads. Is reading the wiki too hard for you?

I don't want no scrubs. A scrub is the kinda guy who can't get no love from me.

>>12895280
>>12895299
Should have moved your thread to /vg/ where it belongs.

>>12895280
>>12895299
correct, people should not discuss and talk about things because the wiki does that for you

NEET thread

How many piss bottles do you have stored up? MIne starting leaking today

I currently have 12 piss bottles sitting in the corner of my room. Wish I had a camera on me so I could take pics.

Spoonfeeding general.

The amount of new and lack of fuck off to the wiki is disturbing.

>>12895766
wiki a shit
fuck off to 2ch wannabe chink

Are the LNs and manga canon for Kancolle? Are they secondary to the game? How does canon work for this series?

>>12895766
We shall cherish our new underlings and save them from the fate of becoming kuso.

>>12895538
>>12895545
And why could you possibly want to store urine in bottles?

>>12895990
The only canon is the game and now the anime.

>>12896047
LNs and official manga don't account for anything at all?

>>12896050
Forced canon hampers doujinshi?

>>12896050
They don't but they're still a good read.
>>12896065
No it doesn't. Everyone pretty much does the same thing anyway.

>>12896065
What is "forced canon"?

>>12896088
It means "it's canon, but I don't like it." Same thing any time anybody uses the word "forced."

Does anyone know how to buy DMM Points with WebMoney? I know that there are multiple guides everywhere, but I still got a problem.

All my sources tell me that there should be an option to pay with WebMoney in the "DMM money addition"-tab, but there is none. There is only one option I can use and it seems to be by Credit Card. After clicking it I have to type in personal information, like my name and telephone number. Do I have to fill those boxes to use WebMoney? That seems a bit absurd.

>>12896373
Just use a credit card.

>>12896390
Seems like there is no way around it. I never bothered with those, the card from my normal bank is usually more then enough. Unfortunately that isn't a Credit Card.

They don't really have much use in Germany, besides heavily going below zero with almost no cost, but I'll do it for my beloved ships.

What's this warning message for?

>>12896427
Fellow germanfag here,just use an online credit card like mywirecard. They're piss easy to use without having an additional card in your pocket.

>>12896471
You'll figure it out when you finish the node a few times and notice.

>>12896487
I can't read moonrunes. It seems to show up on every map on each world too.

>>12896506
Can you read the wiki?

>うん、私がみんなを守るんだから
>that AA stat
Did she take MC lessons from Akizuki?

>>12896506
It means you cant get anymore Ship girls

>>12896047
>anime
>canon
Please no

>>12896675
Why not?

>>12896690
Because it sucks.

>>12896708
It's only been one episode.

>>12896708
There's always at least one person who are butthurt about everything, huh.

>>12896471
Scrap some ships and make room for the new one,anon.

I've been trying to make hatsuyuki since i woke up this morning for this stupid new quest and I still don't have her. this is silly.

>>12896984
Just run 1-5 a few times and RTB before boss node. She's not too rare.

>>12896984
1-1

>>12896584
She just wants to protect Akagi from planes.

I fucking hate 2-5, every time I reach node E its like I have to pray to 5 different gods just so the elite BB doesn't 1 hit crit a ship to red.

>>12897289
Go north.

>>12897297
The north comp's 6 CA/CAVs right? I don't have that many strong CAs.

>>12897320
They don't need to be kai2 to do it and you can use CLT

>>12897289
Go 4FBB 2CV like the pussies then.

>>12897332
I'm a scrooge with my resources, although I did use 4FBB 2CV to brute force it during my first clear. I checked a japanese 攻略blog (http://akankorebiyori.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-87.html)) and the writer argues BEHL as the most resource/bucket efficient.

>>12897327
I only have 2 spare drum canisters, that's enough to lead me to A right? No searchlights make me worry for the night battle node. Echelon and pray? Or man up and line ahead?

>>12897350
No one takes searchlights. That's just asking to get sent home in a night battle node.

>>12897354
Hmm, was under the assumption you slap a searchlight on somebody with high evasion to maximize damage in night battle. I'm afraid I won't have enough dps with my scrappy CA team. I'll try BEHL 1 last time and if I fail I'll head north.

>>12897350
The night battle shenanigans are more dangerous than the Rus at south route. Most of the time, Ru can't hit the broadside of a barn while the Black Ri Shooter can fuck you up in many ways at north route. If I'm asked, I'd stick to south route 4BB2CV. It works for me and is resource/bucket/sortie time efficient.

>>12897350
Why doesn't that guy put both Akizuki guns on Akizuki if he's using green ones?

>>12897354
How about equipping a searchlight on flagships to attempt to trigger more flagship-covers? Does flagship covering even grant additional damage mitigation at all?

>>12897350
Well I've always done it without drums so I'm not sure. I seldom go south.
Searchlight and night battle equipment aren't really necessary and use echelon or double line.
>>12897357
It's better if they don't aim at the same girl twice because it'll go from green to orange and then from orange to red.

>>12897369
And if the one who covered the flagship takes a full crit then it's all over. It's all up to the RNG roll if it will take full damage or not. Having high evasion plus echelon can help mitigate the damage though.

>>12897354
I do. I use searchlights every single time I go north.

And 90% of the time the reason I get sent home at the yasen node is not because of the searchlight carrier.

It's just me though, when I tried the same thing for a friend the searchlight carrier kept getting rekt there.

>>12897289
>>12897320
North with 2 CA(V), 1 CL and 3 DD. Works like a charm most of the time, and yasen node only gives me trouble around 1 in 10 runs.

>>12897350
Drums are not needed.

>>12897369
Yeah, it's fine on the flagship because flagship covering reduces the chance of a girl getting attacked twice.

RJ YOU USELESS SHIT
North it is.

>>12897385
Git gud at south, m8.

>>12897385
Bring one of the better CVLs. Hawks are for winners, RJ is for losers.

>>12897385
Its because you have a pair of tits instead of a DD, its your fault, anon.

>>12897385
Come on. Your DD and KTKM aren't even kai2. It's too early to use this composition.

>>12897385
Get your KTKM, Ushio, and Shigure to kai 2 you pleb.

>>12897385
>using a boy as a flagship

>torpedo missing
>first 2 attacks missing

I just want my medal for my first blueprint, fuck me. Should I just 4FBB 2CV or go back to 3-2-A to grind?

>>12897438
Did you put Zuiun on your CAV for air superiority?

>>12897438
4FBB2BB if you want it so bad, you'd have to level your other ship afterwards though.

>>12897438
4BB2CV. If that doesn't still work, grind some more levels. Just chopped the first of four parts of the boss's hp using 2CA4CAV even though I'm more used to using 4BB2CV because fuck that south node dead end. It's a bit more expensive on the repairs though by going North.

>>12897438
This is why north route turned me off for so long.

>>12897451
*2CV, sorry.

>>12896373
>WebMoney
Rodina gave you godly Qiwi virtual VISA and you want to use anally-restricted piece of WebMoney shit!?

Goddamn, I don't want to see these newfags crying for help especially during the event.

>>12897463
You're free to go, oldfag-san.

>>12897466
No, you piece of shit. Go back to Himeuta.

>>12897463
I want to laugh at their tears.

>>12897463
It's going to come in full force and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it.

>>12897471
You're the one that needs to go if you don't have anything to play for anymore and aren't willing to help others.

>>12897447
Yeah Mogami and Kumano both had 1 each.

>>12897451
>>12897452
Guess I'll have to try that. My luck today is really shit, I cleared the first 2 parts of this month's 2-5 boss hp bar with BEHL twice but I can't seem to make it there in one piece today.

>>12897483
People who can help themselves but spend their time asking retarded questions instead don't deserve help.

>>12897463
"ded game ded thread" "fuck newfags" its all the same people, right? Whats wrong with you?
>>12897486
But acting "elite" around a web based game is fine? What kind of logic is that?

>>12897483
They don't deserve any help since everything has been provided for them, you fucking retard.

>>12897506
It's always acceptable to act elitist towards people who ask retarded questions instead of helping themselves, whether it's net games or porn games or anything else.

>>12897532
>acceptable to act elitist towards people
Only if you're part of the first 6 servers or people who were already playing before Sept-Oct.

>>12897540
You can only become an elitist if you have Shinden Kai.

>>12897540
Score one for me.

>>12897548
You can only be an elitist if every fleet you outfit has maxed luck.

>>12897548
>>12897555
Shinden Kais are for the elite of the elite. I doubt there's anyone here who have one though. But if you're from the first server down to Truk, then you can act high and mighty how the others joined because of the bandwagon. Now that's fucking elitism.

remember when we used to post our page 1s of ships and bully others for having shit taste
those were the days

>>12897572
>But if you're from the first server down to Truk,
I joined last January and I'm in Truk so that's irrelevant.

>>12897555
>>12897572
Heh.

>>12897588
This days threads are filled with nothingness.

>>12897588
Nowadays I suspect it'd all be subs and CLTs for everyone.

>>12897572
that feel when additional spots opened in Maizuru when Lingga server opened but you took one of the latter spots instead

>>12897599
That's a screenshot of the map. Where's the shin?

>>12897358
Why do people not bring BBs or Hotels to night battle?

>>12897591
>>12897604
Irrelevant if you did not join before October or late September of 2013. I forgot they can have open spots from older servers.
>>12897608
Because they don't have the additional damage from torpedoes which night battle damage takes into its calculation.

>>12897614
I joined August 2013 but it's honestly not like that shit matters. I'm not even Level 100 yet.

In combined fleet mechanics, opening torpedo strikes don't happen. Is there any way to make it trigger?

>>12897614
Why do people put hotels as fire support expeditions in combined fleet instead of being in the 12 slots?

>>12897608
Because I'll never forget how my Yamato lost a 1on1 battle against an elite Ri class heavy cruiser in night battle.

>>12897626
We're in the same boat then (no pun intended). Still at level 98.
Kinda matters if you're talking about elitism though. Before, our threads weren't really that hostile in nature but now, we've got these guys acting like they're the shit when they've probably joined after Kancolle skyrocketed into popularity.

>>12897633
You can join anytime you like as long as you're not dumb about it.

Hotels are so realistic in game. Just like in real life they are never sortied.

I cry everytime.

>>12897673
Time to dance with Evil Nagato in the pale moonlight!

>>12897673
And then she shows up again in the boss node.

>>12897633
When's the cutoff for pre versus post Kancolle skyrocketing?

>>12897673
That was the one with Sakawa as the reward, right? when I first saw the enemy comp, I knew I couldnt do it even with love, now I feel bad for not having Sakawa near me and petting her.

>>12897673
I got turned back fewer times than I reached the boss.

Damecon stronk.

>>12897696
6-2 boss node, anon.

>>12897695
Around late September to early October of 2013 as far as I can remember. It was October that I think, Kancolle was quite well known outside of Japan.

>>12897696
I managed to get Sakawa, but I was level 70 then so I got the easier nodes. First and last event where level scaling helped me out.

RIP Mutsuki

>>12897717
They can smell the weak.

>>12897705
Yeah I know, lately I ve been trying to pass 5-3 so, wish me luck I guess.

>>12897673
that map was HELL

>>12897717
You can make it to the boss easily, just believe in them!

>>12897722
All sub fleet?

>>12897723
Levels don't matter, my Mutsu was level 4 and my Shoukaku in her 30s when I started the map.

>>12897726
Every day before I go to sleep for the night I do something really unreasonable in the hopes that a miracle will occur.

One day it will happen.

So I just got Akashi, does leveling her to Kai do anything for her in regards to her equipment modernization or repair dock thing?

>>12897752
>equipment modernization
Her odds of successfully upgrading equip supposedly increases.

>repair dock thing
She gets another available slot, so she can repair a whole fleet once you get enough cranes.

Also, I'm pretty sure that's all in the wiki. Check there first in the future.

>>12897734
Yeah 10 tries (I think), only 1 boss encounter and they didnt even damage the flagship, maybe I should try something else, I have resources, but knowing that we have an event ehead, Im not sure what to do, maybe tomorrow, im goin to sleep right now.
And you are right about lvls, torpedo sluts always get to red in 3.5, Bisko always sparkling and wrecking stuff, it must be becaise they are lesbians, there's no other answer besides their lvl.

>>12895128
>>12895133
Thank /a/'s thread for that, they're pushing away 99% of secondaries (the remaining 1% have done enough research to be able to stay in there without getting driven out) and telling them to go play the game, learn about the girls, then come back.

>>12897673
>>12897723
I recorded some of my runs for keeping, did it with Fall event too. I remember pokehamu's clear. Fun times.

>>12897821
Its really hilarious:

>you watch show
>don't really understand anything except cute girls doing cute things
>discuss boats on /a/
>receive memes and shitposting
>"play the game before you post"
>come to /jp/
>elitistfags everywhere
>"don't post unless you have shinden kai you fucking bandwagoner, remember the good old days?"
>get chased to /vg/

They can't win.

>>12897865
Stop listening solely to shitposters.

Is there any point in doing 6-1 without taigei? The other routes aren't working too great.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/mylist/38226697
I watched some ancient events, but damn I wish I was there playing back then.

>>12897883
>I wish I was there playing back then.
Heh, thank your lucky star you didnt have to go through Fall 2013

>>12897888
But you will have bragging rights, you know.

>>12897800
Did you use boss support? Actually, don't bother if you aren't using 2 DDs in your fleet.

Maybe 2 DD 4 CA(V) or something might work.

>it must be becaise they are lesbians
Don't think so, Stalker's Ooi performs with no problems with or without Kitakami. He doesn't like using Kitakami because she keeps failing.

>>12897878
CLT + Ooyodo + 3 subs + CV works for me if everyone's sparkled.

>>12897890
What bragging right?
53cm?

Yahagi, Hachi and Musashi are all craftable.
I didnt keep track of the patch now, but what are the exclusive ships right now?

>>12897902
The line ahead one.

>>12897902
Summer and fall 2014 rewards are the only exclusive ones now.

>>12897902
All these poor newfugs who won't get to experience the joys of Purin Oigen or Isokaze for another x months.
Isokaze probably for february event though.

>>12897911
Where is Nowacchi?

>>12897908
>>12897911
I'm more cut about missing the 4th 41cm prototype instead of Isokaze.

>>12897918
Not cute enough to be relevant.

How about re-visiting events with buffed nodes? How cool is that?

>>12897922
This isn't WoW, I'd prefer to avoid recycled content.

>>12897920
You can always farm them now.

>new
>grinding 4-1 forever
>still no Kaga
I just want my kuudere shipfu, but all I've gotten are four sour yuus. God.

>>12897928
Yeah I don't think the blueprint is worth it.

>>12897931
2-2

>>12897924
Are you expecting me that I played p2w MMO? Fuck you.

>>12897937
Aren't carriers in general much more rare in World 2? I'm not saying 4-1 is hard, I'm just kinda tired of waiting.

>>12897920
Same here, anon.

Hopefully the devs will eventually allow us to convert normal 41cms to proto 41cms like they've done with 35.6cms.

>>12897942
3-3 boss node has dropped a shit ton of carriers for me. Don't know about you though.

>>12897942
You get 1/3 carrier boss node AND you can get hamakaze as well. It's one of the easiest farmable map.

>>12897945
I see, guess I'll try it instead.
>>12897947
Already have Hamakaze tho. Well, maybe I'll look into it too. 4-1 has the added bonus of nicely stacking exp for my CAs, which won't be happening quite so well in 2-2 I'm afraid.

Four Hachis tonight and I still can't rebuild the Goya I accidentally scrapped.

>>12897954
You'll just send her to Orel anyway.

>>12897954
How? I've done 250-30-200-30 a fucking billion times trying to get Hachi and all I get is Arashio. she's the last sub I don't have.

>>12897963
Maybe tonight is your lucky night
Goya ;_;

>>12897965
Gotta save for the event. I do two attempts as my daily crafts. I have never in my life had more than 30k fuel and I've cleared the last two.

You should heartlock the ones you love.

>>12897976
I got her during my last daily craft, and guess what quest I did right afterwards.

>>12897976
It keeps happening.

I see people talking about some new - and complicated - LoS formula, needing HQ level, assigning different LoS multipliers for each plane.

Where can I get some detailed info?
Otherwise, I'll just keep on going with the old and tested LoS formula.

>>12898017
Wikiwiki.

艦上爆撃機 × (1.0376255 ± 0.10645155)+ 艦上攻撃機 × (1.3677954 ± 0.12374924)+ 艦上偵察機 × (1.6592780 ± 0.12122857)
+ 水上偵察機 × (2.0000000 ± 0.12252778)+ 水上爆撃機 × (1.7787282 ± 0.11984478)+ 小型電探 × (1.0045358 ± 0.06574909)
+ 大型電探 × (0.9906638 ± 0.06523730)+ 探照灯 × (0.9067950 ± 0.07666456)+ √(各艦毎の素索敵) × (1.6841056 ± 0.10692787)
+ (「司令部レベル ÷ 5」× 5) × (-0.6142467 ± 0.04550847) 「」内は切り上げです。
2-5式に合わせ水偵の補正が2になるように計算しました。
索敵スコアが70.06より大きいとすべてボスへ行き、58.23より小さいとすべてボスから逸れていました。

Have fun.

Now for someone to make a calculator taking all this into account, including the uncertainties.

>>12898023
People had issue understanding the first LoS formula, so we had to tell 'em the Effective equipment LoS to simplify shit up.

That gibberish was shitted out of some alien with speech impediment

>>12898012
I sunk hacchan at lvl80 on a 3-2 misclick, and she hasn't dropped since. I don't deserve her. ;_;

>>12898047
The one reduced to 2 decimal places?

>>12898047
>alien with speech impediment
ayy lmao

Seriously though, how could anyone not understand this even after translating it? It's clear as day.

>>12898075
Does anyone said anything about "Can't read nip".

It is just too much filled with variables, and some things taht you can't even calculate at all, as the effective plane loss on route to the boss. One slot reaches 0 you have less LoS.

Also
>Reading impediment

>>12898088
>the effective plane loss on route to the boss. One slot reaches 0 you have less LoS.
About that...
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Reikyu/Effective_LoS_and_size_0_plane_slots

>>12898091
That test doesn't say anything about plane loss on route.

>>12898099
I had no doubt about that from the start, due to my personal experience doing MI with 4 CAVs and stacking Zuiuns on them.

>>12898091 here, this might also be worth a read for those who haven't read it already.

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Reikyu/Carrier_shelling_and_size_0_plane_slots

>>12898023
Something like this?

http://tsoft-web.com/sub/kancolle/2-5/

>>12898132
Yeah.
>uncertainties removed
why.jpg

Also it looks like the ASW plane with 1 LoS isn't included in there. Not that it's relevant, but still.

>>12898140
Forgot to mention the veteran type 21 fighter, which also has 1 LoS.

>>12897673
Summer was far worse to me, I'd take two Fall E4s back-to-back rather than going to spar with the carrier princess without my CAs in tow. I mean, just look at the records.

Anonymous, what you see is a short list
Of the great opportunities I missed
A catalogue of near kills at E6
Observe it, read along with me
Observe it and read along with me!

In the Ta node, I lost twenty-five times
My Shioi got to red seven times
Eight runs to yasen, nineteen to submarines
But! But to CV-hime!
But to CV-hime, a thousand and three!
Thousand-and-three! Thousand-and-three!

She hits to red in line abreast
In double line and in all the rest
She hits to red when T is crossed
When near orange, when near the boss
She ends runs in all formations
All equip setups, all placebos!

In line ahead, she likes to lead
With a bomb spree on a CLT
In first shelling, her mark's Fuso
In the second, she targets Taiho

When in green T, she hits Kaga
When in red T, she hits Hyuga
Green ships she'll first to chuuha get
But in next round, but in next round
But in next round, but in next round, but in next round
But in next round, but in next round, but in next round
But in next round, the same girl she'll target!

She will bring your hotels to red
Just to see you pay arm and leg
Her passion's to pick out and hit
Ships just above taiha limit

It matters not, whether you've got
Ring, damecon, luck or plane slot
Though you may think you may make it
All... she needs is... a single hit.

P.S. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkjzTtz-lZQ

>>12898140
Also, wikiwiki links to this person who worked on pinning down the new LOS formula. He seems to have made a calculator as well.
http://ch.nicovideo.jp/biikame/blomaga/ar663428
http://biikame.hatenablog.com/entry/2014/11/14/224925

>>12898182
>Shioi
What route/comp were you running?

I remember subs getting rekt even in the night battle nodes due to the late model DD fuckers.

>>12898023
Just how much testing is needed to get down a formula like that?

>>12898215
Pretty much impossible

>>12898211
I was running 2BB1SS3CV. I had no CVLs and no CAs left for E6.

And yeah, that was a lot of damecons wasted over nothing.

The compass is the real enemy of this game.

I'm so close to just press F5 instead of wasting hundreds of resources and time (or buckets) because of the compass' RNG...

>>12898230
enjoy ur ban :^)

>>12898230
Just do it pussy.
I F5 for 3-5 every month since it was implemented.
Considering it is 2015 right now, and my account is still alive, it is obvious they dont enforce this shit

>>12898317
Same here.

Refreshing doesn't cause bans.

>>12898215
>>12898218
Never underestimate the nips, that's all I can say.

>>12898407
The precision in those numbers is way beyond what you could get by simply testing it.

>>12898414
From what I've learned about statistics, it's actually not so. While the results are certainly hard to obtain, it's still not nearly as hard as you might think it is.

The exact mechanism escapes me, but I think one of the reasons why it looks a lot more complicated than it really is, is because square roots are involved.

That's it. I'm not constructing any more. Just going to wait for drop and turn an old man.

>>12898420
As an actuary I work in that field and you can believe me when I say that you would need test cases well in the tens of thousands to derive numbers to that extent. And that's assuming you know all (or most) variables and correlations. Because if you don't, you need even more to find those. It's practically impossible.

I hope they will "fix" that map HP will once again show up on map selection screen when those maps are reset.

>Shinden kai is the blu-ray pre-order bonus

How many would you buy

>>12898444
There isn't even a way to enter any code or anything.

>>12898446

Who says there won't be?

>>12898458
The devs.

>>12898461

When? Also, as if Tanaka kept his promises.

>>12898463
He does keep his promises, he just takes a very long time to fulfill them.

>>12898467

Oh man, that's rich.. Never thought this thread would fall so low.

This game looks fun. It looks like it takes some effort to get into though, so I will not play it.

>>12898469
Foreign ships did come, they just took a while. Midway did come, it just took a while.

The devs are just naturally slow, they take a long time to fix shit in general (enemy carriers launching at red, Taihou's and Akitsu Maru's repair times, steel node abuse, botting/scripting).

>>12898485
>some effort
Nowhere as much as it used to be, anon. Now all you need is cookie method + easy lottery.

>>12897438
Wait what, it's possible to get wrecked on first node when Gold Chi isn't there?

I've been playing for not all that long and I am stuck at 2-4, always one ship goes into red just before boss node.

>>12898533

She's using Kitakami Kai, which has rice paper armour.

Also He class flagship torp can be as deadly as Chi class flag in Dooukousen or Green T.

First time doing 2-5 quest. Can you get enough LoS for 2-5 if you go north for the quest?
DD
2drums
1flare
T33

CL
night plane
yamato plane

CA
2xyamato plane

>>12898540

Oh God. Please go read the combat page of the wiki. There are so much stuff wrong that it is appaling.

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat

>>12898540
Replace RJ and Mogami with a CV and fill the highest plane count slots with green planes and one CV should have Saiun in the lowest count.

>>12898548
>drums
Holy hell why people like drums so much? Go check the wiki.

>>12898540
That hurts.

>>12898552
I guess this is the most useful advice I'll get.
I thought dive bombers were most important than green planes?
>>12898551
Are you talking about the cut ins? All my ships perform them.

>>12898573

The only daytime cut-in that ar worth the trouble are AP shell triggered ones, the rest are surpassed by double attack.

On nightime, double attack is also the best set-up with the ships you have.

>>12898573
Oh it looks like I don't have any CVs just CVLs and CAVs

>>12898573
I prefer torpedo bombers than red planes and please, your BBs should have the standard setup of red main cannons x2, Observation Seaplane x1 and a radar if it is available or AP shells.

>>12898583
There's a quest to get Akagi, a CV.

>>12898585
I haven't been able to craft radar yet or AP shell.

>>12898583
Then use two CVLs as for your RJ, make sure her highest plane count is green plane and the lowest is blue plane.

>>12898540
You will need some carriers. Air superiority is 133 for 2-4 and you don't really have much of anything.

Run 4BB 2CV (Do you have Akagi yet?) and have at least 2 red guns on your BBs along with an observation plane. This is going to be resource intensive so I hope your DDs are slaving away at the expedition corner.

>>12898592
The least you can do is to farm Isuzu's radar.

Was your goal is to unlock world 3-2?

>>12898540
Where is your Akagi?

Every time a new player ask for help in regards to 2-4, it is almost certain that they are not using or have not gotten the free Akagi from the quest.

Also, your RJ plane load out is completely wrong. You need to go learn about what happens during the aerial phase of combat, and also things like required air power for air superiority for each map, all of which can be found on the wiki.

>>12897931
BB wall in 3-4 is overflowing with CVs.

>>12898182
I really hope you don't say "submarinays" or "heems"

I hope since Fubuki got a Kai Ni that the other starter ships get one, but knowing how lazy Kadokawa is I doubt it will happen any time soon.
I just want my daughter Inazuma to get stronger.

Any new bans since the last maintenance?

new thread?

>>12898712
Fuck off.

>>12898705
My buddy who's always bragging about scripting expeditions hasn't been banned yet.
Don't know how much longer that'll last though.

>>12898746
Are you me?

>>12898600
Not that anon but, how's my setup? Also stuck in 2-4.
My main problem isn't really firepower or getting crit to red, but the fact that the compass fucking hates my guts and sends me to dead ends 90% of the time. Tone is there because I've been able to get sent to the boss node if I have her, otherwise I just replace her with Yamashiro or Sendai.

>>12898746
Have there been records of filthy gaijin getting banned for macros/scripting? I reckon as long as you randomize your timers and sacrifice a bit of efficiency it should be fine.

>>12898778
For starters, replace all your yellow guns with recon seaplanes.

>>12898713
no
we are autosaging dumbass

>>12898778
A bit of modernizing should also help. 1-5 is fantastic for that, at least for my experience.

>>12898805
>autosaging

That free akagi quest, Sink an enemy aircraft carrier.
How do I find these and how do I tell what they are?
I've seen enemy ships that send planes and sunk them and not got the quest.

>>12898843
Check the Wiki for quest descriptions, or use the KancolleViewer. Just search for "Akagi" on the Quest-page of the wiki and do the prerequisites.
Remember, quests only count if you have them active while doing them.

>>12898843
Read the wiki.
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Enemy_Vessel
As for the quest, I don't remember that myself, but it's probably about sinking a Wo-class and not a "light" carrier Nu-class.

>>12898843

>>12898778
I wouldn't want to serve admiral who doesn't care about his subordinates either. Feed your kanmusu.

>>12898778
First off, if the compass hates your guts, there is nothing you or me can do.

You need to modernize your ships. Priority should be on BBs.

Also >>12898790 because you need a recon seaplane to trigger artillery spotting. Read the wiki again.

I don't see how firepower is not a concern when you're missing the above two points.

Here's a little optimization on plane load out. Do you have a 5th type 52 zero fighter? If so, I'd replace either Hiyou or Junyou with Yamashiro. You will get 126 air power with the CVL carrying 3 type 52 zeros and setup on Akagi unchanged.

You will be only 3 air power above the requirement for node H, but it should be fine because node H is the only carrier node along the way to the boss, so you'll be losing minimal amounts of planes before reaching it.

Your Akagi is almost at remodel level, so if you can push her to kai, you can actually run a 102+ air power set up with her + CVL using only 4 type 52 zeros. Only 102 air power is needed for 2 out of 3 possible formations at node H, and even if you get the one with 123 required, you will still be on air parity, so it's no biggie. On top of that, you may not even pass by node H and there are no carriers in the boss node.

What's a guaranteed setup to be always sent to node D in 1-5?

>forget to equip ASW equipment on Yuubari
>still S rank 1-5 boss node
I love it when this happens.

>>12898973
Why do you want node D?

>>12898983
Perhaps to not waste time retreating.before the boss node.
Unfortunately it's 50/50 at best.

Do you think there will ever be a second free wedding ring?

>>12898976
>Yamagumo
Fuck off with your blog

>>12898988
There is a 100% boss 1-5 composition though

>>12898995
After Shinano.

>>12898995
i don't think the devs want to promote polygamy, so probably not.

Any good way to get Maruyus beside 6-1 rape? LSC isn't helping...

>>12898995
No, so buy one and support our game.

>>12898998
I'd have brought Akizuki instead but she was in the docks.

Goddamn crit magnet.

>>12898999
Can you read?

ＢＵＲＮＩＮＧ　ＬＯＶＥ
http://exhentai.org/g/775645/0c969a6f27/
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/fd8aaokj5b6h4/KCDJ

>>12899013
Thank you.

>>12899005
One or two LSC every day. Soon I'll be able to max her.

>>12898598
I haven't been playing all the long.
I've replace Mogami Kai and RJ with Hyou and Junyou (Hiyou has 22 red and 36 green, Junyou has 10 red, 12 blue and 36 green.

I have no radar or ap shells yet or many 35.6, 41 cm guns (red) so:
Kongou - 41cm x1 + 35.6cm x1 + 1 Observation plane + 15.5 yellow gun on Kongou
Haruna - 2x 35.6cm + 1 observation plane
Hyuuga - 1x 35.6cm + 2x 20cm + 1 Observation plane
Ise - 1x 35.6cm + 1x Zuiun + 2x 20cm.

I have a bunch of equipment free:
6x 14cm, 3x 12.7, 1x 15.2, 1x 15.5, 2x Zuiun, 1 observation plane, 1x 7.7mm, 1x 12.7mm, 1x Repair team.

As for the Akagi quest it doesn't appear on my list:
- Sortie Carrier Task Force!
- Daily Sortie 3
- Weekly Sortie 3
- Weekly Sortie 1
- Daily Sortie 5
- Deploy a Light Carrier Squadron
- Deploy a Torpedo Squadron to Bashi Islands

Those are my only Sortie quests, I have never had Akagi before (she is not in my library)

>>12898642
Nah, but it's okay because that thing is sung so fast that it's pretty much a patter, nobody will notice the non-rhyming parts. There's also other dumb things like red/leg because I'm shitty at rewriting.

The original was cheating hard with all these country and occupation rhymes anyway.

>>12899040
Two Zuiuns on BBV.
Use wiki for quests. And calc for Air Superiority.
cookie > KCV

>>12899129
Okay taken a 20.3cm off Ise and but another Zuiun on it.
Kancolle Viewer says my Air Superiority is 44.

As for the quests - I can't seem to see how I can unlock B10 or why it won't appear in my list.

>>12899166
Try completing "Sortie Carrier Task Force!"

This is probably the one that needs a carrier-type as flag, which will then lead to B10.

>>12899011
I don't understand. You want to go to node D over C to not get fucked, where there's a Ka class which will fuck you?

>>12899194
Yeah, you clearly don't.
All nodes except boss and HQ80+A are harmless. There's no such thing as "Ka class fucking you up" outside of those.
The difference is, with node D it doesn't matter what you click (thanks to guaranteed dead end), you just go there and return to base. With C if you have not-correct composition you get directed to harder nodes after progressing. It should be pretty obvious that anon wants to train up his CLs and DDs. That also suggest he's low lvl TTK. Furthermore if he's asking for D it's probably because he's HQ40-49 and D has ZERO elite subs while C does have one.

Finally got my 3-3/3-4 weekly done. I was burning way more buckets and resources than I should but being awake at 3am does weird things to one's sense of logic.
Got my 3rd sub (replica but its welcome 3-2-A tank fodder anyway) and delicious Kaga too.

I feel oddly contented.
Night fellow TTKs, compass-chan bless you.

>>12899248
And not a moment too soon, quests reset in 20 minutes.

>>12899129
Two Zuiuns? Are they unaffected by the Weapon Overload Penalty?

>>12899261
Weapon overload only applies to BB guns mate.

>>12899265
K, thanks. I thought it's all of the equipment on a BB that affects it.
Looking back now, many things could have been much easier with that knowledge...

Let's do our best this week as well!

>>12899265
And also only to fast BBs.

>>12899301
Bullshit, Nagatos also suffer from overload.

And logically speaking so should Fusous and Ises, both as BB and BBV.

So, how much is known about this "TYPE-MOON x KanColle Event"?

>>12899327
Wasn't it going to be a live event? Does anyone care about live events?

>>12899327
It's TBA since few months ago.

Who cleared their PvP already?

>>12899327
It's a joke since long time ago

>>12899428
Shouldn't be possible

>>12899428
Next event is months away.

>>12899440
Read the thread. Or maybe previous one?

>>12899445
Why don't you repost your method? You know you want to.

>>12899440
>>12899450
Doing some other daily quests right now, hold on.

>>12899445
Previous one.

>>12899443
Oh, and next event is early next month.

>>12899445
Doesn't change that it shouldn't be possible, that counts as exploiting a bug if it really works

>>12899464
Thats true, but the thing is, why would you want to use that exploit? Unless you are in a rush, you just need to wait some hours, nothing more.

>>12899450
>>12899454
>>12893337

>>12899464
It would suck to errorcat because the PvP reset, so I don't think they'll change how it works.

>>12899482
So basically, you refresh the game on the pvp victory screen?

How the fuck it's done otherwise?

>>12899606
>So basically, you refresh the game on the pvp victory screen?
Not even close.

I'm sorry to ask this, but I can't seem to find it on the wiki. How does ship placement within the fleet affect performance in battle? Like, 2nd slot vs 5th slot? Or does it not matter as much as I think it does?

>>12899630
Read the thread.

>>12899630
Flagship has further protection by the Flagship Protection mechanic.
Otherwise, the order of your fleet is only important for the second shelling phase or Night Battles, where the one at the top attacks first and the 6th attacks last.

>>12899642
Oh, wow, I'm retarded, the exact question got asked earlier.
Whoops.

>>12899606
Stop baiting shitheads' posts
>>12899617
Is clearly laughing his ass off after that shopped image.

>>12899701
If you don't believe me, I cannot force you to believe me. But the image is genuine.

NO FUCK
Just when I thought It was going so well

>>12899714
Compass fairies a cute

Is there any point in putting more AA cut-in capable ship in a fleet? Can it procc on more than one ship?

>>12899739
Nope, but I am sure you will have better chances to activate it. Personally I don't bother setting it up on anything bigger than CL/DD, unless I can't bring in my own CV and have to fight lots of carriers.

I checked something on the wiki but this caught my eyes. I usually do 2 main, 1 plane, 1 radar or anything else on low luck CA. would this setup work better even for those?

>>12899802
This setup is shit. Don't use it.

>>12898983
I tried intentionally failing the boss route on 1-5 and I didn't get sent to D.

I'm interested in D because of the smaller drop pool present according to the wikia.

That said I went 1 CL 3 DD 1 BB/V 1CV/L/AV but I don't get to D that often.

>>12899923
I wouldn't trust the wikia's drop pool. Especially in a node nobody goes to.

>>12899719
The one with the bird on her head is the only one that ever puts me in the right node. She vibrates with untold RNG-shattering power to deliver me unto my destination.
The sleepy one never does anything right.

>>12899998
I too would think it is more like the LSC reports. People report things they were happy to find rather than all the trash.

Still doubt the 25% chance of a yamato class stats are completely off. At least when I get BBVs 10 times in a row.

>>12900026
ugh, I doubt they are correct, and believe they are off. Managed to combine that into the complete opposite.

>>12900029
Divide that number by 10 and you're close.

>>12899998
tl;dr trying to get Goya for expeditions and Orel farming.